1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Really readily dalks. Look at us now, tip to tip. 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Spinderella cut it up one time. We back baby, 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: the only combat sports show that tells you how it 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: was and of course how it should be. Morning Combat. 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 3: This is Premiere Digital Programming right here, Friday, March fourth, 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: twenty and twenty two. I'm very pale, a little bit 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: biged to the BBC with that bde Brian Campbell fired 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: up to set the stage for the weekend to come 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: and tag in my partner inside this ring. He is 14 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: from North Marietta, Georgia, but he lives or sorry, Old Marietta, 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: get that right, and the nation's capital. He while a 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: little high and tight update on Luke just like myself. 17 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: It is the one and only. 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas BC ture or false. Did you dye your 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: hair with shoe polish today? 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: This is not This is actually not a die job. 21 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: It's actually a strategic cut job because the majority of 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: my gray comes here. It doesn't come up here unless 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: it goes a certain length. Luke so this is a 24 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: very strategic let me look a little bit younger on 25 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: your ass haircut update that I guarant damn tee. I 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: did not pay one hundred dollars for yet, Luke. I 27 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: got the massage, the hair washed with it. I got 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: a lot of extras. Not the extras you know that 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: that mister Kraft is into. But you get where I'm 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: going with this. How much do you pay for that shit? Bro? 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I paid DC prices, which are just tell 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: the folks the truth. Did I not send you a 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: picture of a home for sale that looked at best, 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: at best mediocre? And it was one point three to start? 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: I was like, what is fucking up? You got to 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: get out of there. 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: You had a good run in DC. Get out. Now 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: find a new place. Okay, it's time, you know, preferably 39 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: preferably closer to the studio there that we rock in. JAYC. 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: Jersey said, hey that we put out resume review this 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: week Rooftop Diaries with Chuck minnenhaman anywhere closer to that, Luke, 42 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: and you and I may take this show to a 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: level that I don't. I don't think you're ready for. 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 3: I don't think your bank account is ready. I don't 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: think your personal time is ready. I don't think you're. 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: Punt is very ready. My bank account is very ready, 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: super ready. 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: Were coming. We're coming, Luke, Showtime of course, being the 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: label that pays us jump out now for thirty days 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: for free on Showtime dot Com. So much of MA, 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: so much Bill Cosby Doc. Good lord. I mean, look, 52 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 3: if there's one thing I learned from W. Kmal Bell 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: from this doc series is that Bill Cosby is a 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: way bigger piece of shit than I ever knew about. 55 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: Like he did all this other good stuff too, I 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 3: never knew about. But holy crap, Luke, Wow, Uncle Bill Right, Wow. 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Dude, he's a mega talent. He's an MK fans generally, 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: I will say, are mega talents, and he is certainly 59 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: one of them. Another reason to get Showtime BC. 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 3: No, I was talking about the garbage in his life, Luke. 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: He did way more to them checks than I thought 62 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: he'd got. Holy crap, dude. 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, he's a complete monster. But I mean, 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: just with the with what I tell folks this, it's 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: not just like the stuff that airs live on Showtime. 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: You can go back and see all the stuff that 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: you missed, including but not limited to this documentary. It's 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: just unbelievable. You can't imagine how nuanced and good and 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: thoughtful this is TV. Is well showtime TV anyway? Is 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: it is booming? Baby? 71 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, we booming too as well. So why don't 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: you check out our merch site Morning Combat Dot Store. 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: Today we are launching Saint Patrick's Day merch. Yes, can 74 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: be the first to see it. We got baby onesies, Luke, 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: We got bibbs. I mean, finally, finally, Vo might be 76 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: able to rock a little MK. I think if she 77 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: goes to Morning Combat Dot Store shout out the two key. 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: Does she really wear onesies anymore? Not really, She's almost 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: she'll be three next month. 80 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: I know. I'm not trying to put her back in diapers. 81 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: You get my point. But I'm saying our guy r J. 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: Dunkle Cracker is he's figuring out how to please everyone, Luke, 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: which is something I hope for your marriage. 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: You are also, yes, we're fine, thank you? Right? 85 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, we should set the weekend going. Some 86 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: big fights coming. We've got a little bit of a 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 3: call me crazy today and I have promised Luke under 88 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: Old signed with Blood that this will be the best 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: ninety minutes in combat sports. But no longer, Luke, no longer. 90 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: Okay, can I do it? 91 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: Can I fit it all in? Luke? All right? Rocko 92 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 3: said that a few times. Can I Luke just the 93 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: t all right? Download and subscribe, of course, like this 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: video if you like what we're doing here. We got 95 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: so many great interviews YouTube dot Com, Slash Morning Comeback, 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: do not miss as I teased, pregame preview for UFC 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: two seventy two, resume review of Colby Covington, a lot 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: of good independent interviews as well. In the boxing and 99 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: MMA world. Luke's got some good solo stuff, so check 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: all that shit out. And there are our social channels, Luke. 101 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: People don't come here though to hear me ramble. They 102 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: come here to get your hot tikes on all things 103 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: m M A and UFC two seven two Luke. And 104 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: it goes down grudge match style this Saturday. Of course, 105 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: it's our first topic, Friends turned foes. It is Colby 106 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 3: Covington versus Jorge Mosmital Finally, Saturday Night five rounds Welterwait 107 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: non title main event. The storyline's been beaten to death, 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: as have we Luke, But before we get into. 109 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: Talk about that presser real quick. 110 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm teeing up before we get into 111 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: the pick, Luke, It's it's normal that we would come 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: on this show and rip a UFC pressor in this 113 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: modern era, it's normal. But with that said, Luke, it 114 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: ain't the weird ass media's fault this time. 115 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: True or false. That was what we saw on Thursday. 116 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: Aaron Bronstetter's tweet wasn't wrong. You know, that's like the worst. 117 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 4: That's as bad as it gets. Luke, that's probably the 118 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: most painful watch. 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: It made me like the fighters remote, you know, separately, 120 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: less than I had before. It kind of makes me 121 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: not as excited for this fight. Luke, that's extreme, that's aggressive. 122 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: Am I wrong? 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: I didn't watch it live, so then I watched the 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: takes afterwards and to your point, broun Setter, but not 125 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: just him, Dude, Gribacca, hit Man, Coposa, he hated it. 126 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: Everyone I followed seemed to think it was at at 127 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: best a mess and that if anything, they might have 128 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: dissuaded by is rather than adding them. I don't really 129 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: believe that. If you look at the comments on the 130 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: video which again, all of this is all very anecdotal. 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: They had a very different take. Most people seem to 132 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: love it, so I don't think that it will affect that. 133 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: But you know, if you're above the age of thirty 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: in your watching this, you're like, what have I done 135 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: with my life? I'm losing brain cells by the minute. 136 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: But there wasn't even like a couple of good moments, Luke. 137 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: It was like, straight, just what am I listening to? 138 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Bro Yes, it was two brothers arguing, and then what 139 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: it sounded like sounded like two brothers in the front 140 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: yard arguing over god knows what. And I actually saw 141 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: people say as indicated it would dissuade views. I really 142 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: don't think that. But what I think I did see 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: some of as well was like, this made me worry 144 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: about the way the fight is going to go, not 145 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: that they're actually going to be at each other's throats, 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: but rather that because they had this weird kind of 147 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: smothering reaction, the fight will be boring. And we had 148 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: sort of said that there's also a possibility of that. 149 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. People seem to connect how bad the 150 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: presser was to the possibility of the fight being bad, 151 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: just not really the look you're going for the Thursday 152 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: before the fight. 153 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't come here to like happily pile 154 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: on everybody, but a couple things need to be said normally. 155 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: Again we're blaming the media for their line of questioning 156 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: or their lack of decorum, but this was, like Jorge 157 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: was just doing in poor man's Connor second rate shit. 158 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: Colby was not only annoying as hell, Luke, but I 159 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: don't even know, like he just couldn't. He doesn't have 160 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: a character right now. The character is just how could 161 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: I be as vile with every statement as possible? But 162 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: it's not even focused or funny. And then, Luke, dude, 163 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: can somebody get Dana White an airpiece with somebody telling 164 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: him what's being said, because like this old man routine 165 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: of like sorry and and I respect these, you know, 166 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: lost hearing in one air from sparring, he says, but 167 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: like it's embarrassing like this these you know, Dana's already Luke, 168 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: gonna barely answer the actual theme of your question if 169 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: you're lucky, but he can't hear shit, Luke, I mean, 170 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: it's it's just it was it was really, it was 171 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: really a bad presentation, you know, an eight pm Eastern start. 172 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: You're like, this is gonna be good man, this is 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: gonna get me fired up. And damn, dude, damn that 174 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: was weird. But Luke, it's not gonna matter when they 175 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: touch gloves in less unless what we talked about and 176 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: teased on Wednesday and you just brought it up a 177 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: second ago, whether that emotion plays into the fight and 178 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: has potential to alter strategies, outcomes and all of that. Uh, Luke, 179 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: I think that's a good opening question here as we 180 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: look at the odds and what we've both agreed you'd 181 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: look on paper stylistically, this has, you know, age wise everything. 182 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: This obviously has potential to be a big time Colby Knight. 183 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: That's why DraftKings has him as a favorite minus three 184 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: thirty five plus two sixty four Jorge. Obviously those aren't 185 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: like earth shatteringly dominant odds, but we get what could 186 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 3: happen here, Luke, what role will all of this bullshit, 187 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: of the hatred of all that actually play for Jorge 188 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: Masvidal and potentially helping him widen the odds and the 189 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: gap between them comes Saturday night. 190 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: I think by the time the fight comes around. I 191 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: don't know what any of this will do for him. 192 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: It is possible that Colby could get baited, as we've 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: sort of talked about previously, a little bit into making 194 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: some kind tactical error, or Jorge could elevate his game 195 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: with the proper motivation on fight night. But I really 196 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: think all of that comes back to what he's been 197 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: doing in the gym, which is I'm trying to simplify 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: this as much as i can, because there are so 199 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: many like weird variables here that are slightly unusual or 200 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: just hard to know what they mean. I think if 201 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: you're going to see an elevated performance from Jorge, it's 202 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: because he had an overall elevated training camp relative to 203 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: previous ones. Now Bo Nicol, three time national champ at 204 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: of Penn State, has been down for a few of these, 205 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: but certainly for this camp as well. That can only 206 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: assist him. We did see, by the way BC when 207 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: we did the resume review, how much you know, it 208 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: was limited, but it was kind of noteworthy how much 209 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: success RDA had. I think in the fourth round tried 210 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: to take Colby down. That was probably a round that 211 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: RDA took maybe I mean that's a little bit debatable, 212 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: but certainly according to some people, that was one of 213 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: his better performances in that fight in terms of rounds. 214 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, if you're asking, like, 215 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: what will all of this mean on fight night? Nothing, really, 216 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: I think it will mean something as it relates to 217 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: the prep and what that means when they ultimately meet. 218 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: I think, simply speaking, Kolby's probably got enough of a 219 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: wrestling vantage to maybe ride it out. 220 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: It's like, am I doubling down here because I want 221 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: Jorge to be more competitive? I want this to be 222 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: a fun fight. Everybody does this while you're tuning in. 223 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: It's while you're paying for it, you know, in theory 224 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: if you're a fan storyline, why I just think, Luke, 225 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: it's not much like it's a wish, But I really 226 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: do think we're going to get the best of what 227 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: is left inside of jor and you and I have 228 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: done you know with Chuck, did the pregame preview debate rightfully? 229 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: So of you know can twenty nineteen miles. But I'll 230 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: still come through that door. Or that's not the right 231 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: you know, that's the wrong question, BC. This is the 232 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: right one. I do believe wholeheartedly this is gonna be 233 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 3: the best of what he has left at thirty seven. 234 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: He's going to need to lure Colby into a brawl 235 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: in theory to have his best chance. You know, is 236 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: I just don't see. I don't think, Luke, the worst 237 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: case scenario is gonna happen. I'm not here to tell 238 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: you necessarily that the mas Vitol upset pick is like graspable, 239 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 3: but what I will say and tell me if you disagree. 240 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna see, you know, Jorge get 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: TKO because he gases out late in round four and 242 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: in a fight that he loses completely one sided. I 243 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: also don't think, given Colby's striking realities, that he's in 244 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 3: for any kind of replay of what just happened for 245 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: him in the Usman rematch. I think win or lose, 246 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: he's gonna come in be willing to go five rounds, 247 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: physically able and willing to and is going to give 248 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: a good account for him of trying like hell to 249 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: find an angle to win this fight. Do you have 250 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: any fears given all that other stuff. 251 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: Fears, no expectations, will the only thing that I'm trying 252 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: to work around here. I think this actually might look 253 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: a little bit like the RDA fight. Now, RDA is 254 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: not Jorge, but you know, a one to fifty five 255 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: er who is moving up to one seventy. Jorney is 256 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: a little bigger, but still he's not like the biggest 257 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: one seventi er you've ever seen. So that plays a role. 258 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: A guy who can kickbox, who can do a little 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: bit of wrestling, can kind of do a little bit overall. 260 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: I know, excuse me, I know that. Excuse me that 261 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: RDA has a something of a pedigree with a black 262 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: belt in jiu jitsu. But here's the thing I'm thinking about, BC, 263 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: I think I think Jorge, excuse me, I think Colby 264 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: will pursue a similar game plan like that where remember 265 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: in that fight he had eighteen takedowns. I don't know 266 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: if he'll get eighteen, but he's probably going to attempt 267 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 2: upwards of fifteen to twenty if it goes let's say 268 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: the full five I suppose. If it doesn't, then that's 269 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: out the window. So I'm expecting something like that. I 270 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: really believe, BC. You know what to expect, what not 271 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: to expect. Here's the one thing I feel reasonably comfortable 272 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: in saying, which is the person who has the onus 273 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: on them not to do like gimmicky bullshit, but to 274 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: get out of their comfort zone and try things that 275 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: they may ordinarily not try against another opponent of a 276 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: similar type. I think it's Jorge. I think it's Jorge. 277 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: Jorge's got to be the one that's got to do 278 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: a little bit differently. You know, if the jab is 279 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: working and Colby can't get inside of it, great, but 280 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: that seems a little bit unlikely. Yes, Jorge can kickbox, 281 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: but that by itself seems you know, that's gonna be good, 282 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: but by itself insufficient. He's got decent takedown defense, but 283 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: you would imagine Colby could control him at least for 284 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: parts of the round. And so you go from there 285 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: and you're asking, like, what could Jorge do? I really 286 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: wonder if Jorge can find a counterfighting strategy to threaten submissions, threatened, guillotines, 287 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: threatened darcees, on the down, block, on the stuff, against 288 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: the fence when he's getting pressed, fine, different ways to 289 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: threaten with submissions to deter certain forms of action from Colby. Remember, 290 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: Colby does have he nearly got choked out by Mike 291 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: Pile granted, and he scrambled like a motherfucker. We all 292 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: know that. And he did get subbed by who's the 293 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: Brazilian guy? Uh Wagner or what's his name? 294 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: Warley Alvis? 295 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: Warley Alvis? Excuse me, Warley Alvis caught him in the 296 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: first round. 297 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry it was it was sorry, it was 298 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: Tatiana Suarez. 299 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, yes it was. 300 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: Nailed it, finally nailed it. 301 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 2: Okay, yes it was Tatiana Swarez. Very fair point. But 302 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: you know what I'm trying to say here, those have 303 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: been not exploitable weaknesses because well, I guess in the 304 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: one fight he lost and the one he didn't, but 305 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: they were like one of the few things that a 306 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: lot of guys don't try on him anymore, and with reason. 307 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: But if you're joge to your point at the end 308 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: of your thirties, you're getting close to forty, this is 309 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: your rival. Conventional tools that you typically go to are 310 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: gonna be valuable but insufficient. What's that next gear you're 311 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: gonna go to to change up the complexion of this fight? 312 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: I think offensive wrestling could be one BC like RDA 313 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: did a little bit. I think also threatening with submissions 314 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: in the right circumstances can do a lot for you. 315 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: Let me let me I think I agree with you. 316 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: I thought that was very well laid out. I say, 317 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: I think khe is gonna give the best foot forward, 318 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: the best version of himself, and he's gonna come to win, 319 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: and he's gonna try to find those openings for the 320 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: finish and to your points, he's gonna have to really, 321 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: you know, try some stuff. He's gonna to really go 322 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: for it. We did a resume review though on Colby, 323 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: and we know what makes him not just good but 324 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: great in some of it Luke is that he is 325 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: legitimately tough and game as hell and here for the smoke, 326 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: not in a reckless sense of course that leaves in 327 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: spots to get knocked out, although he did get knocked 328 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: out by Usman the first time in what was an 329 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: incredible war of attrition between them, and his face fell apart. 330 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: Do you think, though, even though it's like Colby doesn't 331 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: have world class striking, but he has evolved and rounded 332 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: it out in ways to make it more effective. But 333 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: because he's so tough, do you think not just does 334 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: he fall prey to any Masvidal attempt at trying to 335 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: make this more about Mono Imano than five rounds of wrestling. 336 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: But forget it being a trick. Do you think there's 337 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: part of Colby that is like, I wonder if I 338 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: could stop this guy. I wonder if I you know, 339 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: I wonder, like you know, not only do I hate him? 340 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: So part of that is pulling on me, of course, 341 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: But what if I stand in there and knock out 342 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: Jorge Mazibra. What does that say to who? To who 343 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: I am? My pay per view value moving forward, and 344 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: the belief I have in my own striking game. Now, look, 345 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: I did just lay out for you the perfect spider 346 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: web from Ozawell. I'll try to pull this upset, of course, 347 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: but how willingly will be? Will Kobe be to be like, 348 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: fuck it, man, I'm about to show you what I'm about. 349 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that willing, at least not early. I mean, 350 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: if you do, how stupid would that be? I'd be 351 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: really dumb. He would go back to his corner. If 352 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: he gets out of the first round doing that, It's 353 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: gonna be like, what the fuck are you doing? 354 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: Well? You these guys are the worst risk management ficionados 355 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: there is what if it's not out about being a 356 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: risk and just I believe in myself so badly that 357 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 3: I want to show this Luke. 358 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: You could argue that's what got him into trouble against 359 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: Usman a little bit. You could argue that's what got 360 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: into trouble against Usban in the second fight, in particular, 361 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: that he got a little bit out in front of 362 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: his skis in terms of where and how he wanted 363 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: to strike and how he set it up right. Joe 364 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Rogan one time had a great explanation for it, like, 365 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: if you've never done striking, you just don't know what 366 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: openings you were leaving now. Obviously Klobe has been training 367 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: for a long time, but he's not the technician that 368 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: Jorge is. But you know, willingly exposing yourself to that 369 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: kind of risk for a prolonged amount of time, Sorry, dude, 370 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: I just don't. I could see it for in spurts, 371 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: and I could see even a little spurts potentially being 372 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: costly or changing the complexion of around or a moment 373 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: or something. Not to say that they're they're, they're, they 374 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: don't matter at all, BC, But like when someone gets 375 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: their hand raised here, how much of that will be 376 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: the contributing factor. I don't know, man, I don't like, 377 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: we all want Kolby and Jorge to match what the 378 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: rhetoric is. But they're not. They're not bad or stupid fighters, 379 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: They're just not. So I just keep expecting them to 380 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: go that direction is asking a lot. 381 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 3: But again it's not out of It's not like ignorance 382 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: or stupidity. It's like, look, Colby thinks he's on a 383 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 3: level of Camaro. He had two, you know, pretty epic fights. 384 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: I mean first one epic in action, second one just 385 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: good strategy and that you know, adaptions from both. And 386 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 3: you know, he just watched his rival Usmann not only 387 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: beat him twice, but like handle mas of it all, 388 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: knock him the fuck out. Luke right, You know, if 389 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: you're Colby, you're like, well, how do I get back 390 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: into that third Usman fight? How do I? You know, 391 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: I ful fill? And I know, look, oh, Colby's smart 392 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: enough that he's already setting up the poorier pay day, 393 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 3: and that's smart. We had Brian Orteagan this show talking about, hey, 394 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: maybe I move up and wait and go after that guy. 395 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: I mean, there's always the Connor. There's a lot of 396 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: situations where Kobe can make big fights. But I'm just 397 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: saying from that standpoint of, you know, how do I 398 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: get right back there with Kamorrow? I don't know. It's 399 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: probably not likely. What is likely, though, Luke to happen here, 400 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: because as much as Kuzman had natural advantages that were 401 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: wide over Masvidal, it's not as if he relied on 402 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: wrestling to beat Jorgey. You know, he was actually you 403 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: know really that was in the midst of his striking 404 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: evolution under Trevor Whitman. The first fight and then the 405 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: second fight. God did he put it together? How much? 406 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: How early do you see Colby looking to make wrestling 407 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: the dominant theme of this fight. 408 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: If it's like the RDA fight, it will be instantaneous. 409 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: So so that's the question, right, how much does this 410 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: and again no two fights are the same or whatever, 411 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: how much does he borrow from that strategy where he 412 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: took it right to him and even if he couldn't 413 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: get him down BC, he would press him against the fence, 414 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: like just utterly smother and neutralize him. I tend to 415 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: think it won't look like that. I tend to think 416 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: he might take his time a little bit, But dude, 417 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: he takes one hard. He knows Masvidal, right, he knows him. 418 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: I think he takes one super hard shot from him 419 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: and all that shit's out the window. I don't think 420 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: he'll go to that. What I do think is a 421 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: possibility is, you know, maybe he slugs it out in 422 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: the feet because you know, oh, he did it for 423 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: Robi Lawler, but Robberye was kind of long in the 424 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: tooth and was just rolling with it a lot. So 425 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: that's not really a Masvidoal's style. He's more of a 426 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: stand in fire kind of type. What I do think 427 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: is possible, though, is what if he can get Joge down, 428 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: not like gass him, but you know, put him out 429 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: a second gear. And I say that pejoratively in terms 430 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: of his offense. He guess to reduce it to just 431 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: manage all of this stress and punishment. You know, getting 432 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: a TKO stoppage in the third or the fourth is 433 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: really pounding him out. That seems at least doable. Ground 434 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: and pound has not been his strong suit, but we 435 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: have seen it at times. I wonder if he brings 436 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: it back here it was no part at all. For example, 437 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: in the fight with Robbie Lawler it was critical in 438 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: the fight with Max Griffin. Which version of that are 439 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: you going to see? I think probably somewhere a little 440 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: bit in the middle. 441 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: Actually, that's interesting. That'll dictate obviously, you know, as well 442 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: as Moswell's reaction to that both and take down defense 443 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: and how long he will stay on his back. That 444 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: ultimately dictates the direction this goes and the outcome in 445 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 3: the end. Luke, how much of a realistic chance are 446 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: you giving Masbital here outside of catching him with one shot? 447 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: Haven't seen the odds, so I don't know what they say. 448 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: I would say I give the you know, thirty forty 449 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 2: percent chance to Maswital something like that. I just feel 450 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: like you gotta be you know, especially after last week's 451 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: disastrous picks. I'm trying to be as as informed and 452 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: a sober and as like, what's just the likely possibility 453 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: all this other noise, notwithstanding, the likeliest one is that 454 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: Colby controls the physical spaces en route to a five 455 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: round decision or something approximating. That just seems like it's 456 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: the smart money. I take the possibility BC of an 457 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: upset by Jorgete as quite real and maybe even elevated 458 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: over normal, but I don't see it as the likeliest outcome. 459 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: Granted though, certainly there's been times he's been counted out 460 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: and he has performed quite ably. But I just have 461 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: to go with what I think the most rational perspective is, would. 462 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: You agree that there is some level of like I 463 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: think Bernard Hopkins. Now, obviously Hopkins was so legendary in 464 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: boxing that he did this a few times. But each 465 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: time Hopkins did one of those old man achievements, whether 466 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: it was like you know, upsetting Felix Trinidad when he 467 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: was thirty eight, or anything he did in his forties 468 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: and moving up and wait, each time it was like 469 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: an extra validation of making this guy a legend that 470 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: you didn't think he still had in him. Would that 471 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 3: would a win here be that same thing for Ozvidal? 472 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 3: Would you look at this as the biggest win of 473 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: his career? 474 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: Ooh, it'd be up there, It'd be up it might be, 475 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: it might be, it's it's it's I'd have to I'd 476 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: have to think about that a little bit more, but 477 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: it's certainly up there. What I would say, though, is 478 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: Bernard had a First of all, Bernard was a champion, 479 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: a weight class champion more than just that. So there's 480 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of a difference and ability, like the 481 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: pedigree Bernard were sort of sort of seeing, correct me 482 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, you would know better than me. But 483 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 2: the feeling I get in reading about him, and I've 484 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: interviewed him a couple of times, you sort of get 485 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: the sense that this guy was a technical genius. Yes, 486 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: and and Jorge is very well rounded, I want to 487 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: be super clear about that, but no one has ever 488 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: called him a technical genius in any of the one 489 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: areas of the game. 490 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: Yea less about style, more about impact of the moment. 491 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: You know, sure, fair enough you would know better. 492 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: I'm just saying point they're not on evil even terms 493 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 3: in terms of where they are received historically in their 494 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: own sports before that as well, So you know, it's 495 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 3: not a perfect comparison. I'm just wondering as I try 496 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: to sort of it's like doing the math on the 497 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: not the x's and O side, but the other side. 498 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: Mazl's the realities of cove of Covington's blind spots, if 499 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: there are any in terms of, you know, of what 500 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: might happen here. And I do think Mozvel though, has 501 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: you know, I think I'm just that's the picture I'm 502 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: painting ultimately to myself. He's got a lot of motivation 503 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: to really bring it here, Luke, And think of the 504 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: cowboy serony thing, where sometimes for some of these guys, 505 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, Mozvedl may have never been able to 506 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 3: be too spont under any circumstance twice so that was 507 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: always going to be a monster uphill climb. But some 508 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: guys also just sort of level out in terms of 509 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: their ability to rise to the occasion on certain levels 510 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: as well. And that's difficult to try to tease Mozvel 511 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: onto that conversation because his twenty nineteen was all about 512 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: him moving past boundaries that you thought were capable of 513 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: him there. But it's interesting, Luke, it's interesting. 514 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: I think he's got I'll say this see let's say 515 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: let's say I'm let's posit. I saw no stra dumbass. 516 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: I saw that that Jorge. Yes, I saw the Jorge 517 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: goes to submissions and he actually wins either via submission 518 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: or because he had this new wrinkle blah blah blah 519 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: that would demonstrate an ability late in the game to 520 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: really think through and then execute in that way. That 521 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: would be new, that would be that might be his 522 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: best win. If he's able to show something like that, 523 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: we'll have to see. 524 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, And now, obviously I think he's gonna have to 525 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: use the relationship between them and the fallout of it 526 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: as fuel as much as he can. And I don't 527 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: just mean that from the idea of learning somebody into 528 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: a brawl. But look, they obviously have to know a 529 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: lot about each other's games, all those hours of sparring, 530 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: of helping each other fill in the weaknesses to the 531 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: that's natural. They're like, that has to mean something coming 532 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: into here. We tend to think of it as more 533 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 3: as oh, one got the better of the other, so 534 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: they've got like the big brother thing going. But look, 535 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: you do really get to see the foundational core of 536 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: who that other man is. That's more of the wild 537 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 3: card that I can't put my finger on. I may 538 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: I made the reference Wednesday to like when two brothers fight, 539 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: no matter the age difference, the size difference, you just 540 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: never know what's gonna happen because it's so damn real 541 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: and about emotion. I wonder what Jorge knows, Luke, you know, 542 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I wonder how much I. 543 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: Wonder what I wonder what Colby knows. Colby knows too. 544 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: If you've ever sparred a lot of times with a person, 545 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: it's actually hard to spar with them in the future 546 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: unless you're doing specific kinds of situations because the the 547 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: the knowledge of all the little tricks, the little tendencies, 548 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: how they balance their way, whether they look for what's 549 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: the slight little twist in their step, for any particular 550 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: kind of you begin to pick up on all of that. 551 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: Now they've been separated for some time, so I think 552 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: that'll be different. But this is what I'm saying. On 553 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: the Colby side and the Jorge side, I'm looking to 554 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: see the person who's gonna win. This is, you know, again, 555 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: because of the wrestling, you would have to naturally favor Colby. 556 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: But that doesn't, you know, tell you who's gonna win. 557 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: But I will say, BC, I think the person who's 558 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: gonna win, they're gonna show you that since those sparring days, 559 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: they've made more progress. Who has made more technical progress 560 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 2: from the days in which they were intimately sporn with 561 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: one another until today. That's your winner, right. 562 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: There is there a round that we get to where 563 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: you believe the odds of Masvidal winning decrease exponentially. 564 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: No, not by itself. If the fight is looking like 565 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: shit in the round two, you're like, well, I don't know, 566 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how we're going to go past round three. 567 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, yes in that sense, But I mean, 568 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: do I think that like, oh, this guy's good for 569 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: the first two then he fades down the stretch. No, 570 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 2: not really. But you know, if Colby has built a 571 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: commanding lead over three, let's say you know that at 572 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: that point a rally is going to be really, really difficult. 573 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, not often you see someone spot 574 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: their competitor two sets in tennis, then they win the 575 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: last three. It does happen in the majors, but it's 576 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: pretty fucking rare. So the longer that gets out of hand, 577 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: the worse it gets. 578 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: The last question I have for you, Luke, as if 579 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: I've put you on stand here when I host on Fridays, 580 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: is it's about the Masvidal of twenty nineteen. And some 581 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: of that is just like right place, right time, right moment, obviously, 582 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: like the askerin Knockout, which you couldn't repeat, you know, 583 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: a million times again just how perfect. We didn't really 584 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: even know what that fight looked, you know, could have 585 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: looked like because of that, But he did show enough 586 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 3: against Nate Diaz that at the peak of it, would 587 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: you agree that that version of mozwital again, whether you 588 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: can recreate it or not, like there was an extra 589 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: level not only magic to it, but Luke the speed, 590 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: like his foot speed, the way he does not he 591 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: would disguise his attacks, like everything about what he was 592 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 3: doing seemed the next level in that moment. Is there 593 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: anything like strategically or technically he can look to do 594 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: to recapture that outside of you know, inject yourself with 595 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: the same emotion you were feeling to help that helped 596 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: fuel you that you know that one year at that 597 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: one time, he. 598 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: Didn't beat he didn't beat Nate Diaz on motivation. He 599 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: beat him because he's just a lot better. That fight 600 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: would look the exact same way if they made it today, 601 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: if not worse. That's just a terrible fight for Nate 602 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: and it's a really good fight for Jorge. And it's 603 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: by virtue of the threats that he poses versus the 604 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: ones that Colby poses, I would not read into anything 605 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: motivational there. That's just a really good style matchup for Jorge, 606 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: and he executed exactly the way you might imagine. 607 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: I don't know, dude, there was a spark to him. 608 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: There was a spark to him where he transitioned from 609 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: like set up to finish mode. I mean, it was 610 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: just like you remember, I mean, it wasn't just about 611 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: tightening up his technique or being in the best shape 612 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: he's ever been. 613 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: Luke, there was there was a brutality to it, right, 614 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: I mean he was laying it on him, and not 615 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: in the way that Jorge ordinarily does. I think that's 616 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: what you mean, Like he's had, you know, close competitive 617 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: striking affairs, was a little bit given take this was 618 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: This was just a This was a beatdown in large 619 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: in large part, and I think people were like, God, damn, 620 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: Jorge is just fucking you know, laying into him. And 621 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: he was. But you know, that's a completely different threat 622 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: than what he gets tomorrow, Utterly, utterly different in almost 623 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: every way. 624 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: It's like whatever this, whatever the spirit was that made 625 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: him that brutal and that quick twig, quick quick trigger, 626 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: what's a quick twitch fiber, Luke, is that where I'm 627 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: going with that? You know where I'm going with that? 628 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: Whatever that goes on. 629 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm going for a ninety minute show today. I don't 630 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: know about you. 631 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: Whatever that was, Luke, inject that back into him this weekend. 632 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: Did you see by the way, and by the way, 633 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: I hope it's not just the spirit of something that 634 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: we're injecting, Luke, did you see that? Suzanne Summer's page 635 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: six of the New York Post story. She's seventy five 636 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: years old, and she claimed in the interview that she's 637 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: having sex with her eighty four year old husband sometimes 638 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: up to three times before lunch each day. Like there's 639 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: just off the tee shart we can But Luke, this 640 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: does circle back to you, okay. She claimed in there 641 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: that every Tuesday she injects him with testosterone, and then 642 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: she claimed she's like Wednesdays are great in this house. Obviously, Luke, 643 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: we see a future for you when you finally man 644 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: up and go on TRT that you are finally going 645 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: to living your best life and basically become a superhero. 646 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: But dude, Suesday and Summer's husband is like, yo, juice 647 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: me up on the weekly brother injected me with that ship. 648 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 3: What would our lives look like right now if we 649 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: went under that that that treatment. 650 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: Uh, it would look like a show that is over 651 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,239 Speaker 2: in about ninety minutes, that is what it would look like. 652 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: You're not You don't fantasize based on this story. 653 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: See, you're killing me today. You are killing me. 654 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: Look, I've got a control of the timing mechanisms here 655 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 3: and you know what I mean. Come on, come on, 656 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 3: I got a tight fifteen up here, Luke, Okay, very I. 657 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about Susan Sarandon fucking geriatric people. 658 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Wow? Wow, can you put some respect on the Tuesday 659 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: and summers. 660 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: On the thigh master? 661 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: Luke? When how how does Kolby win this? Then? What? What? 662 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: What? 663 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: What's your pick? Put it on the paper, Luke. 664 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I'm just trying to do okay, after last 665 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: week's disaster, I'm just trying to do the best I can. 666 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, all right, all right, now hold on. 667 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: Hold on, I'll just I'll be very quick about it. 668 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonn side with Colby. I just think 669 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: Jorge has ways to win, and winning is very much 670 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: in play. Forced to pick a side, who has the 671 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: more likely path to victory. I will side with the 672 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: wrestling in control of Colby Cogton. 673 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,719 Speaker 3: Look, I've got my brain telling me Koby's gonna win 674 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: this fifty forty five, but my heart in emotions tricking 675 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: me into making the upset pick here, Luke. It sounds stupid, 676 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: but I'm telling you, like, sometimes these things happen and 677 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: then we go, oh, man, I didn't expect that, or 678 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming, and then sometimes we can 679 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: play ourselves trying to get ahead of that curve as 680 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 3: either you know, gamblers or podcast hosts. But I got 681 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: this feeling, Luke, and I've been harsh on Joge at times, 682 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: but I think we get the best of what's left. 683 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: And I think he has a shot to make this 684 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: a real fight. And if he can keep it a 685 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: real fight, Luke, he's gonna you know, he's have to give. 686 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: He's don't have to take chances you have to give, Luke. 687 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: But it's possible here. I kind of like Jorge. It's 688 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: the emotional pick. But we'll see what goes down us 689 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: comin event we know the story line. Luke plus one 690 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 3: forty five high not on Moikano on four days notice 691 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 3: following a fourteen hour flight. Close odds with the thirty 692 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: seven year old half feel Dosanos. We know what's at 693 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: stake for Moikano to sort of double his name value overnight. 694 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: Do you think the last minute nature of this favors 695 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 3: either guy? 696 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I mean it's got a I don't know 697 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: what kind of shape Moikano's in, right, he fought recently, 698 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: which is great, but then he was in Brazil. Who 699 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: knows how much he was training. You do just have 700 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: to wonder, like, if this goes past two three rounds, 701 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: what what does he have left at that point? So 702 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: that is gotta be favoring half Al Dosanos, no doubt 703 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: about it. On the other hand, though, BC, you look 704 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: at some of the other intangibles here. He's gonna be 705 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: three inches taller Moikano, He's gonna have a two inch 706 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: reach advantage. He lands a lot more five strikes per 707 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: minute as opposed to the three point four nine of RDA. 708 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: He's a tall, imposing figure with a lot of volume. 709 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: You just wonder, to your point, he might look good 710 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: early in this fight. You might be like, damn, mo 711 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: Kano came here from Brazil and it's kicking his ass. 712 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: But what's gonna happen? Third, fourth round? If it goes 713 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 2: that long. That is the hard part to know, really 714 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: hard part to know. 715 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 3: You nail that, you nail that. It's not about you 716 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: know what does our DA have left? Dude? R DA 717 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: is probably always gonna have, you know, a certain level 718 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 3: left for a long ass time. This is about was 719 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: moy Kano in shape at a level where he can 720 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: realistically go five hard rounds because our DA is gonna 721 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 3: make you if you don't finish him. But Luke, all 722 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 3: that said, I just think he's hot right now. Thirty 723 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: two years old. He found his own division. Moikano. I 724 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: had questions about him coming into that last fight, but 725 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: boy did he prove me wrong again. He's won three 726 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: or four in this new way class. I think you 727 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: just take the rising ship who has nothing to lose, 728 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 3: everything to gain, and let's not forget that four days 729 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: notice is also hard for our DA to game plan 730 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 3: and adjust for. I like Moikano to win a fun 731 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: decision because Luke, if he's gonna go the distance, if 732 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 3: he's gonna go the distance here, it's gonna have to 733 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: be wild. There's gonna be submission, it's gonna be a fight. 734 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna surprise you. Though I love me 735 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: some upset tonight. 736 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: That's an interesting pick, dude. The thing is, I think 737 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: Moi Kano is talented enough. Let me ask you this, 738 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 2: then let me flip it around. If I may his 739 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: last three wins Moykano all by way of sub Now, 740 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: he hurt him on the feet in many cases and 741 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: then subbed him out, but still by sub How impressed 742 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: would you be if he did that to RDA could 743 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: be back and forth, but in the end hurts him, 744 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 2: subs him out with some kind of choke. How impressed 745 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: would you be? 746 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: Obviously I would be really impressed, as we all would. 747 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: I just whether it's, you know, trying to get out 748 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 3: of the head of the curve too quickly. I just 749 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: feel like we always saw something special in Moikano potentially, 750 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: but it's just been hit or miss, and some of 751 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: that is the weight class change. Despite seeing him get 752 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 3: handled by Physique, which gave me some pause, the overall 753 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: body of works, it's coming to this weight class, dude. 754 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: I think it's one of those surprises where yeah, I 755 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: camp surprised, but I knew it was possible, and that's 756 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 3: why that's ultimately what's fueling my upset pick here. But yeah, Luke, 757 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: I just feel like, you know, our day is gonna 758 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: be game. He's gonna give him a good ass fight, 759 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: but those last minute challenges are also going to affect 760 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 3: him coming in, so mo Cono's gonna have to dump 761 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: it out though. I mean, this is gonna have to 762 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 3: be like one of those that were at the end 763 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 3: You're like, damn, damn. Yeah. 764 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: Remember remember of the two of the two, Dosangos has 765 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: a lot more experience in five round fights, a significant 766 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 2: amount more. He's gonna know how to pursue this to 767 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 2: the extent it goes late. And if Waikana was fresh, 768 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: then I absolutely believe he can probably will win this fight, 769 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: but if he fades, that's a tough place to be 770 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: against a guy like RDA. What a fight. I mean, 771 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 2: we're shitting on this fight. I love this fight. 772 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when it when it actually happens, we're 773 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna love it, and we should. It was 774 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: just some of the emotional connections to Islam and all that. Luke. 775 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 3: This other there's the other fight, the featherweight about that 776 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: is just like Mussy, and we really don't know which 777 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: direction this fight is going. Bryce Mitchell's unbeaten great win 778 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: over Touchy Feely, but Luke, he does not have that 779 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: elite level win yet. That really hammers home the full 780 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 3: belief against Edson Barbosa, who is always going to be 781 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 3: dangerous as hell. Plus one forty five for Edson minus 782 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 3: one six ' five for Mitchell. It's the young again. 783 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 3: It's the same scenario. It's the younger fighter, much younger 784 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 3: in this case, who's on fire right now? Have you 785 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: seen enough in Bryce Mitchell to believe that that extends 786 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 3: to the to the elite or sub elite level, which 787 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: is what he's gonna get here against Barbosa. 788 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 2: This is such a great fight. I love love this 789 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 2: fight for both guys. Dude, the win here would be 790 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: so validating in either direction. Now, we've seen Barbosa fend 791 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: off attacks like this to certain degrees in certain cases, 792 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: So Barboza definitely has a lot more experience against this 793 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: kind of thing than the opposite. I think Bryce probably 794 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: has of the two in terms of veteran experience. He's 795 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: got more of an uphill climb to match some of 796 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: the things that Edson has already seen. But dude, you 797 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: go about back in watching the fight with Andre Feeley, 798 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 2: he was Bryce Mitchell, he was all over Andre Pheely 799 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: like White on Rice in that first round. Pheely made 800 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: it a better second round and then kind of regress 801 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: to the mean a little bit in the third. You 802 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: just have to wonder two things about Barboza. One, what 803 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: happens if he gets out of the first round? What 804 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: does that change for the complexion in the second and 805 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: the third? Two you would agree. I think as good 806 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: as Phely is and I have a hide a lot 807 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: of respect for his game, Barbosa is a much more 808 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: physical specimen of those two. Yeah, So when he starts 809 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: landing on Bryce, how does he react? Because Pheely was 810 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 2: able to ward him off a little bit with some 811 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 2: of the strikes he was doing, you can imagine if 812 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 2: Phey could do that in theory, Barbosa could. But Bryce 813 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: Mitchell is gonna have something to say about that. Dude, 814 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 2: I love you have to love it. 815 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: So first of all, I didn't end up getting that 816 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: thug nasty interview that it just fell apart, But shout 817 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 3: out to the UFCPR for trying their best to try 818 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 3: to put it back together. I'll get Bryce in the future, Luke. 819 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 3: I watched the video about Bryce that was UFC produced, 820 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: that went to Arkansas, and again, you don't know how 821 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 3: how much of this is hammed up to play the image, 822 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 3: but they kind of made it seem like he willingly 823 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: lives in a trailer off the grid and trains with 824 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: logs that have cinder blocks at the end, and you 825 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,919 Speaker 3: know only eats eats his own grown vegetables right there. 826 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: I mean, they kind of made him look like a 827 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: like a folk hero like it was like it was 828 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 3: kind of you know, badass in its own way. Here's 829 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: the deal though, Yeah, he has to avoid the big 830 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 3: one against Barbosa, no question, but Luke, he may have 831 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: the perfect style and scrappiness to where that's why he's 832 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: the slight favorite, because Luke, there is a chance, great 833 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 3: chance here that he could just go and full on 834 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 3: grapple chase mode and time his shoots and stay away 835 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: on the outside from the big shots from Barbosa and 836 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 3: really just out grind and outwork him. I think that's 837 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 3: the move. I think Bryce Mitchell's coming on, Luke. I 838 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: really do. And even if I'm right. Even if he 839 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 3: is coming on, Yes, you could still get one punched 840 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 3: here because one kicked, because that's just who Barbosa is. 841 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: But dude, a lot, real quick, real quick, real quick. 842 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: Remember what Edsen Barboza did to Benil Daryush Right, that 843 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 2: knee vertical to the ceiling, and he sent him to 844 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 2: the land of winding ghosts. Look, look for one thing, 845 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: how much success does Bryce have early? Even if he 846 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: has a lot of success, that may not mean it 847 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 2: carries over, but the opposite might be more important. If 848 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: he doesn't have upfront success, then he might be in 849 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: some real trouble. So we'll have to see how this 850 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 2: one goes. 851 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 3: Cannot wait, Luke, best thing I heard all week. Bryce 852 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: Mitchell is like really good friends with Big Tuna Ben Parrish. 853 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: No way, yeah, dudets the Big Tuna. 854 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 3: Bro. 855 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Mma is full of characters and Bryce one of them. 856 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: Glad to see he's crossing over. 857 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: I mean, like, what if we did, like MK goes 858 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 3: to Arkansas, we take the dot cams and we hang 859 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 3: out with Bryce Mitchell and Big Tuna. Luke, While I 860 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: know that A will produce the most unique, life changing 861 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 3: content you've ever seen. Two it's going to get some clicks, Luke. 862 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 3: But three, could you immerse yourself undercover that deep and 863 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: put yourself in that world and hang out for two 864 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 3: three days for for only for MK doc purposes? Luke, 865 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 3: is that possible? 866 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 2: Sure? 867 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: Would you buy into something that crazy? 868 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 869 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, I'm talking about we we basically recreate stand 870 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 3: by Me, but with those two guys and we just 871 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: kind of like walk shirtless by the water and talk 872 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 3: about chicks and yeah, again. 873 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 2: Is to stand by Me? Is that the one where 874 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 2: the chick dies from the beastings? If so, can that 875 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: be you? 876 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 3: Yeah? You want to go see a dead body? Yeah? Indeed? Uh, Luke, 877 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 3: do you believe that Greg Hardy a plus one six 878 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 3: or five underdog against Sergey Spevak And by the way, 879 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 3: Hardy's talking about fighting Anthony Jo Like, what are we 880 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: doing here? Bro? Do you think he gets knocked out 881 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: and cut by one? And I don't mean cut to 882 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 3: the face, I mean cut to the job by one. 883 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 2: Let me ask you something now that we've seen. You know, 884 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: when Greg Hardy was knocking out Austin Lane on the 885 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: Contender series very quickly, You're like, wow, man, there's some 886 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 2: real he did say one thing he got clown for 887 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: which I didn't understand. He's like, I'm one of the 888 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: best athletes in the world. Well, I don't know if 889 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 2: he's one of the best athletes in the world now, 890 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: but when he was making all pro teams and he 891 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: played for the for the Panthers, yeah, dude, that that 892 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: might have been a fair statement. Actually, that's he was 893 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 2: a fucking animal when he was at This. 894 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 3: Was the real deal Holyfield, Luke, There's no question about it. 895 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 2: He was just yeah. So like people were like, he's 896 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: not one of those I'm like, that's he's that's not 897 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: so far from the truth. But okay, here's the thing 898 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 2: I would ask UBC, tell me I'm wrong, true or false. 899 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 2: Greg Hardy is in actuality a much better fit for 900 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: BKFC than he is UFC. 901 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 3: Oh, well, yes, and now, and I think it's coming 902 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 3: because Luke, I think him talking these interviews of saying, 903 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: oh no, I want to find Anthony Joshua next, or 904 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 3: I'll take Big Baby too. I mean, Big Baby couldn't 905 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 3: be off the radar, even you know, he's had all 906 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 3: those drug scandals and stuff. So it's shown you that 907 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: Hardy's ready for that pivot, Luke, he's ready. 908 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 2: You know, I think I think he might best answer 909 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: the question. Hold on one thing about Greg Carty very quickly, dude. 910 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: There was the one fight where it was the one 911 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 2: where he looked amazing in the first and then gas 912 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: in the second. I don't remember, but there was one 913 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 2: round in the first where he was dealing he looked good. 914 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: I don't I can he get back to that? I 915 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: don't know, because he always like looks good for a 916 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: minute and then the whole shit implodes thereafter. 917 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he is that guy in the basketball court 918 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 3: who kind of just loafs around and then at like 919 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: you know, three times a game, he just does some 920 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 3: ridiculous move and you're like, dude, do that every time, 921 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, come on, come on. He's 922 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: got that plus ability to just sort of look the 923 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 3: part for those sequences. Yeah, so that's why you don't 924 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 3: give up on him. But you know, how many knockouts 925 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 3: or blown fights can you have in a row. We'll 926 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 3: see what happens, Luke quickly. Kevin Holland minus three three 927 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: five over Cowboy OLIVERA. Holland the favorite plus two to 928 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: sixty the Cowboy. This seems like another good bounce back 929 00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 3: Kevin Holland win here. 930 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: Oliver Era could make it tricky. He could make it 931 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 2: tricky on the ground. He has you know he has. 932 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: He has decent takedowns, and he has a little bit 933 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: of a savage kind of ground and pound game and 934 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 2: with submissions to kind of like work too together. So 935 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: if Holland has not really worked on his game, and 936 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 2: I think he has, but let's just say he hasn't, 937 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: like all this is for show, he might be in 938 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 2: some trouble. But to the point you raised, I think 939 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 2: he actually has really sort of elevated himself and pure 940 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 2: striking for striking, I think Holland tears him up. So 941 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: Holland should win this, but actually like it's a pretty 942 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 2: good test to get him kind of building back to 943 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: where he needs to go. Tough fight. 944 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 3: We also love that featured prelim in the women's strawweight division, 945 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 3: which is kind of like a could be a number 946 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 3: one contender fight as well. Marinarodriguez minus two seven five 947 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: favorite against Y'ao Shannahan, who's plus two twenty. You gotta 948 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: love everything about this fight. Luke's style wise, though, are 949 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: the odds correct? If they both bring their best. It 950 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: feels like Hadriguez is gonna be able to She have 951 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: to walk through some shit, but she's gonna be able 952 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 3: to navigate and come away with impressive decision win. Is 953 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 3: that what you're feeling right now? 954 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: I think she's gonna have to play the levels a bit. 955 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: If you actually look at their striking, it's so similar, 956 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: by the way, their height nearly the same, their reach 957 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 2: slight edge for Marina Hardriguez, which could pay dividends if 958 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: she's pumping the jab. But listen to this strikes landing 959 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: per minute Rogrodriguez five, Jon show Nan five point nine, 960 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: which is, by the way, both of those are super 961 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: high striking accuracy forty nine percent, forty two strikes absorbed 962 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: three to three point six, defense fifty seven to sixty one. 963 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: There they're roughly equal in all of these ways. So 964 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 2: the key for me is who goes first, who sets 965 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 2: the tone, and then who mixes it up a little bit. 966 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: I think here might matter a lot. Hadriguez has a 967 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 2: couple more lanes I think to explore. I like her 968 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 2: a little bit more in this one. But this is 969 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 2: a tough, tough, tough fight, to be clear. 970 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 3: And Hadriguez is on fire, stops Amanda hebesk Get's decision 971 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 3: wins over who Mackenzie Dern and Michelle Waterson. Waterson She's 972 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 3: ready's ready to you know, she gets this win, and 973 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 3: you know Seanana is on this level. Uh can't wait 974 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 3: to see what this one looks like, Luke. The grudge 975 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: match Marina Morose against uh Maria Agapova. They seem to 976 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 3: want to, you know, scratch each other eyeballs out. Gotpova's 977 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 3: minus one ninety. I think she's got the better all 978 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 3: around skills, but she also can be mistake prone, Luke 979 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 3: a bit, you know, not not just in the chances 980 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 3: she takes, but we saw her completely gas out and 981 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 3: that just you know, disastrous loss to Shannon Dobson. Who 982 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 3: do you feel here? Because this is real emotion coming 983 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 3: out here, Luke? Does that you know that that could 984 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 3: factor in? 985 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 2: It's funny that we led with, like could Colby and 986 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 2: Jorge loose track of themselves and you know the you know, 987 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: start throwing down because they hate each other. Y'all if 988 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 2: you want to find the fight where people are just 989 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 2: gonna like throw strategy to the wind to fucking kill 990 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: each other. This is the one. 991 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 3: This is this is it. 992 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 2: This is it, bro. These two are all fucking business. 993 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 2: They hate each other from their times brief trained together 994 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 2: and they had a massive, massive personal dispute and a 995 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: gop of a bro. She don't play fucking games at all. 996 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 2: She will absolutely go after you in ways that are 997 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: advisable and inadvisable. So who's gonna win this one? I 998 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: fuck if I know, but it's gonna be. It's gonna 999 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: be an ugly, ugly brawl. I feel like this one 1000 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 2: has real potential to go off the tracks. 1001 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 3: You can't You can't miss it, dude, you really can't 1002 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 3: miss it. I mean, look, have you ever seen a 1003 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 3: a not good but great uh chick fight when you're 1004 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 3: in high school? I mean, this isn't a fan. 1005 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: I went to public high schools, bro, Yes. 1006 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 3: Of course. I mean, dude, there was once these two 1007 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 3: best friends that are both hot, but they turned on 1008 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 3: each other and they had a trilogy of fights. The 1009 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 3: same day I attended, I randomly was that two of 1010 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 3: them luke, including one Luke. When I got the bathroom passed, 1011 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: I was one of only two people that saw the 1012 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 3: rematch the second fight, and it was I mean it 1013 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: looked like, you know, not my units versus young j Check. 1014 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 3: I mean it was just you know, and it was 1015 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 3: in saying wow, that's very misogynistic that I link that 1016 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 3: to this fight lose. 1017 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 2: No, BC's like they should allow hair pulling in this It's. 1018 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 3: True, It's true, Luke hey boom Keller with her Brian 1019 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 3: kellerher friend of the program, Luke friend of all plus 1020 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 3: five point fifty though the underdog coming in against Umar 1021 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 3: and Omaga medoff minus eight hundred. Luke, can you put 1022 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 3: Umar on the on the hall of fame of a 1023 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 3: blinking guys who are about from the Schmesh factor that 1024 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 3: are about to take over? 1025 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: Uh? You might be able to still remains to be 1026 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 2: seen a little bit exactly about what his upside is. 1027 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 2: But yes, tough fight for Keller her to put him out. 1028 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 2: By the way, if the we hope that Keller Heer 1029 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 2: are co panelist BC on the MMA Beat. Yes, I 1030 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: hope that a MMA Beat alumnus like him can can 1031 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 2: get his hand raised. We like him a lot. 1032 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 3: Indeed, Luke, do you have anything else because I'm keeping 1033 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 3: a tight ninety here. You want to talk about two 1034 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 3: seven two? 1035 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 2: No, I think we've hit I mean, just one more reminder. 1036 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: If you need more, a resume review is out. If 1037 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 2: you need even more than that, we did a pre 1038 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 2: preview with Chuck. We've hit this card hard, even with 1039 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 2: the changes to it. I feel pretty good about our coverage. 1040 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 3: It's like with Pam and Tommon lead this shit. It 1041 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 3: was good like Edan was also caught a camera. Look, 1042 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's fantastic. Absolutely, uh Luke. Good boxing match 1043 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 3: tonight ESPN Plus top rank giving us. Jose Ramirez was 1044 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 3: not fought since last May when he lost when he 1045 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,959 Speaker 3: was dropped twice and lost a close and all action 1046 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 3: decision to Josh Taylor in their undisputed championship fight. This 1047 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 3: is his long awaited comeback from that, Luke, but he's 1048 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 3: purposely not doing you know, the get the get well 1049 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 3: boxing thing. He's going right back into the fire against 1050 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 3: the battle tested two division champion Jose Sniper Padraza, who 1051 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 3: you may all remember just three years ago gave Loma 1052 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 3: at lightweight like all he could handle in a very 1053 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 3: fun twelve round fight that Lomachenko won. I love this, Luke, 1054 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 3: because this is what Ramirez is all about, and he's 1055 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 3: identified what he thinks are the problems of how Taylor 1056 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 3: ultimately won that fight. And by the way, Luke one 1057 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 3: fourteen to one twelve tailor in that fight on all 1058 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: three scorecards, So those two knockdowns were the exact reason 1059 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 3: why that wasn't a draw for Ramirez. He claims the 1060 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 3: errors came in the way that he just sort of 1061 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 3: was too aggressive coming into combinations and he essentially walked 1062 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 3: right into shots, including where he thought the referee was 1063 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 3: going to break, and he just took his eye off 1064 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 3: the ball. Luke, I guess it's good to see that 1065 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 3: he's identified that. It's good to see him come back here. 1066 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 3: But if he's not the same dude, sniper Padraza is 1067 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 3: going to get you. So that's what you gotta love 1068 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,919 Speaker 3: about this fight. As Rameirez goes back to the home 1069 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 3: in Fresno in front of probably twelve thousand fans. 1070 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: Well here's the thing, be see, you would know more 1071 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 2: about this than I, so I have to do tape 1072 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 2: study and learn after the fact. Let me ask you this, 1073 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 2: If this is an accurate assessment, Ramirez has beaten guys 1074 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 2: the level of Padraza. Padraza who has three losses. Jervonte Davis, 1075 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 2: I believe Zepaida and Loma has not beaten guys the 1076 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 2: level of Ramirez, and that might be all the difference 1077 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: that is. 1078 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 3: That's not an unfair way to say it, because even 1079 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 3: though Padraza has won titles and two divisions and has 1080 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 3: given very good fights to elites, he's not overrated by 1081 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 3: any means. But but your point might be taken when 1082 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 3: he has stepped up to the highest level. He's beat 1083 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 3: the guys right below that, including for titles or what 1084 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 3: have you. And he's always been a tough out. But 1085 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 3: can he also at thirty two make a show that 1086 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 3: there's another level to this, you know, second half of 1087 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 3: his career. That question's got to be answered. Of course, 1088 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 3: I think we're setting ourselves up though for Jose Ramirez 1089 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 3: strong comeback win. And what Luke you have to love 1090 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 3: about Ramirez is, you know, like there's nothing flashy, he 1091 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 3: doesn't have monster power. He's just one of those, you know, 1092 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 3: very good across the board in every category guys, and 1093 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 3: he's got a great gas tank, and he gets up 1094 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 3: in you and throws responsible combinations. If he just tightens 1095 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 3: it up a little and uses the last fifteen months 1096 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 3: or not fifteen, but uses the last ten months excuse 1097 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 3: me to, you know, just refresh himself in terms of 1098 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 3: the emotional turnaround of suffering your first defeat. You feel 1099 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 3: like this is a fight he should win, although we 1100 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 3: fully expect Petraza to be competitive. But would you agree 1101 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 3: to this, Luke? That the Josh Taylor victory last week 1102 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 3: over Jack caterall yet questions about the scoring, and now 1103 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 3: Taylor saying he wants to move to welterweight, does that 1104 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,479 Speaker 3: make this fight much more important? In Jorge and Jose 1105 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 3: Ramirez trying to announce that he's still the guy at 1106 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 3: one four. 1107 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 2: So, one of the lessons I've learned in covering boxing 1108 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 2: in my earlier years and then now is that the 1109 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 2: system is designed to sort of protect the ones that 1110 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 2: people like or who are favored in some kind of way, 1111 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 2: usually by some other skill. And what I mean to 1112 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 2: say is this is why you see these main events 1113 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 2: where it's like minus one thousand, minus two thousand, minus 1114 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 2: seventeen hundred for the favor. You're like Jesus Christ, you know, 1115 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 2: I don't know what this one is. I don't think 1116 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 2: it's quite that bad. I think our friends. Yeah, roughly 1117 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 2: that's right plus four hundred, which by the way, is 1118 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 2: fairly narrow for boxing odds. What I mean to say is, 1119 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 2: you're right, dude. I've had a few of these experiences, 1120 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 2: the Chris Colbert one, now the Jack Catterall one where 1121 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, but if these really good guys are 1122 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 2: for some reason not in the zone, or the other 1123 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 2: guys having then of his life, or maybe they didn't 1124 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: take it seriously, all of these. In MMA, it's so volatile, 1125 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 2: and upset can happen much more easily in boxing. A 1126 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 2: few things kind of have to happen in conjunction with 1127 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 2: one another for that to really take hold, but we 1128 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 2: have seen it recently in not just last week, but 1129 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 2: in many other recent weeks. I favor Ramirez PC for 1130 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,919 Speaker 2: my very amateurish analysis, I favor Ramirez, but I, like you, 1131 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 2: I need to have a healthier respect for these upstarts. 1132 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 2: Granted this is not a mandatory, but that kind of 1133 00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 2: scenario where they can over accomplish against a somewhat unsuspecting favorite. 1134 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 3: The difference might be that Padraz is more experienced and 1135 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 3: proven than some of those upstarts to either made up 1136 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 3: you know, cambosis upset or caterall. But I think at 1137 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 3: the very least style wise, we're gone a great fight, 1138 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 3: not just because of the whole Whenever Jose Ramrez fights 1139 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 3: in Fresno, I mean I was there one time. I 1140 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 3: was there for the Josees of Peda fight that was 1141 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,919 Speaker 3: a you know, a very close scorecard. They come out 1142 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 3: and they pack it, and normally Jose Ramirez is raising, 1143 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 3: you know, money for cancer, bringing attention to causes of 1144 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 3: the uh you know, Interior Valley there and in Middle 1145 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 3: Valley there in California, fail with the hell they call that? 1146 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 2: What do they call that? Luke? Middle Central Valley. 1147 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 3: Central Valley there, you go, you know, the the heart 1148 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,399 Speaker 3: the community is there, hard working communities. So but he 1149 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,399 Speaker 3: does his work in the trenches with combinations. And even 1150 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 3: though Padraza is the natural counterpuncher to the straight ahead 1151 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 3: guy Ramirez, Dude, Padraza is sneaky and he likes this 1152 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 3: hide behind that guard and he'll stand in the pocket 1153 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 3: with you. And they call him the sniper, you know, 1154 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,280 Speaker 3: because of a it's counterpunching, but because Luke, he'll stand 1155 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 3: in in Trickia with a few uppercuts too. So it's 1156 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 3: going to be good action. As well as tactical. I 1157 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,919 Speaker 3: just feel like the biggest negative against Padrasa is he's 1158 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 3: had the biggest success of his career at the lower 1159 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 3: weight classes, where his punching power was more of a factor. 1160 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 3: At one forty, I don't know if he has enough 1161 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 3: to make Ramerez go in the other direction. And if 1162 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 3: you can't make Ramerez go back where it's luke, or 1163 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 3: you can't out hustle him, you can't beat. 1164 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 2: Him fair Yeah, I mean yes, I would agree with 1165 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 2: that general analysis. I just feel like Ramirez. They're both 1166 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 2: pretty battle tested, but he's a little bit He's a 1167 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 2: little bit more proven against elite competition relative to his opponent, 1168 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 2: So so I'll go with Ramirez. 1169 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 3: Even if Josh Taylor never fights at one forty a game, 1170 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 3: which it seems like it. The future is gonna be 1171 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 3: fun in finding out do they make all those titles 1172 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 3: separately vacant or are we gonna have to start all 1173 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 3: over again in terms of building champions. But the matchups 1174 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 3: are gonna be great if hose whoever wins this, But 1175 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 3: if it's Jose Rimerez, of course he could be the 1176 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 3: guy you've got. You got Tayo Fima Lopez now wanted 1177 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 3: to move to one. You've got Jose Zapeida looking good 1178 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 3: of late. You've got Regis Progray wanting big, big fights, 1179 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 3: and you know, could be the second best guy in 1180 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 3: this division as things stand right now in terms of ability. Uh. 1181 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 3: Now you also got Tank Davis sniffing around and Ryan 1182 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,839 Speaker 3: Garcia Luke talking about moving up to one forty sooner 1183 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 3: than later. 1184 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 2: Well he's will see about that, but he has flirted 1185 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 2: with it as well. 1186 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 3: Dude, this could become the you know, the the fun, 1187 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 3: trendy power division of the moment. 1188 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 2: So we'll he've been talking about one thirty five, but 1189 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 2: all these one thirty five guys, they all want to 1190 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 2: move up, or at least they've had designs on moving up. 1191 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 2: But then all the existing one forty guys that now 1192 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 2: have the sights out one forty seven. By the way, 1193 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 2: where Taylor. One thing about I saw in the Cateriall fight. 1194 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 2: Did he look fucking monstrous with his frame. I don't 1195 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 2: know what kind of cut he had down to that 1196 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 2: shit or not, but him moving up is like seemingly 1197 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 2: not just because he should have lost the cattroll, but 1198 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 2: he's fucking huge. He should have been moving anyway, but 1199 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 2: but you're to your point, dude. All of a sudden, 1200 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 2: there's all these names that we had spotlighted and one 1201 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 2: thirty five, we don't know how long they're gonna be there. 1202 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 2: So a fun time to see some of this mixing 1203 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 2: and matching from one thirty five to one forty. It's 1204 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 2: a great time. 1205 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it makes you want to uh yeah, it 1206 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 3: makes you want to get really excited and not be fearful. 1207 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 3: The boxing is just gonna stab you right in the 1208 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 3: back forgetting too happy, Luke, you'd ever know, speaking of boxing, 1209 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 3: quickly de zone. On Saturday, damn, a very good fighter 1210 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 3: was supposed to be Chuck Latito versus e Al Gayo 1211 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 3: Wan Francisco Estrata, which in a trilogy fight it would 1212 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 3: have been awesome. Estrada got COVID. But Luke, even though 1213 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 3: I messed up with the details in getting excited when 1214 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 3: this fight was announced. This matchup of Roman Gonzalez, the 1215 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 3: former POMF for Pound King Chalco Latito multi division champion 1216 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 3: in this amazing twilight at age thirty four, against Julio 1217 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 3: Seesar Martinez, who was the is the champion currently at 1218 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 3: one fifteen and is like all action all the time 1219 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 3: and a guy who just goes after it at at 1220 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 3: what age twenty three? I think, I mean just a guy. 1221 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 3: I mean just a I mean he wants it. Luke, 1222 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 3: he's moving up to one eighteen for the I'm sorry 1223 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 3: to one fifteen for this fight. He's a champion at 1224 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 3: one twelve. This will be super Flyway one fifteen. Eddie 1225 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 3: hern Is like, dude, that Chuckle Latito Estrada two fight 1226 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 3: from last year is the best fight I've ever seen 1227 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 3: ever ringside. Like, I know, he's the promoter, so he's 1228 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 3: his job is to try to overhype this, but he's like, yo, 1229 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 3: I'm I'm expecting this to be like the greatest thing. Look, 1230 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 3: this is gonna be a fun ass action fight and 1231 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 3: an opportunity again to like give Chuckle Latito the victory 1232 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 3: lap for as long as he wants to keep doing this, 1233 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 3: you know. 1234 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 2: So I looked up some tape to prepare for this 1235 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 2: on Martinez and I think, dude, this is going to 1236 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 2: be all action. First of all, I'll be all action, 1237 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 2: all action this dude. Martinez is bout it about it. 1238 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 2: But here's the thing we see and again, I want 1239 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 2: to pitch it back to you because you will certainly 1240 00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 2: know better from what I can tell. One of the 1241 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 2: major differences between these two, obviously, age is a big one, 1242 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 2: but we're talking about style. Martinez a little bit more straight, 1243 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 2: linear punches, a little bit more of a guy who 1244 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 2: can put things down the center quickly, put pressure behind 1245 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: that if he needs to. Martinez a little bit wider 1246 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 2: with everything. I would imagine a guy like Martinez who's 1247 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 2: been in firefights with guys like this. Granted, Martinez is 1248 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 2: a fucking hammer, but coming up and wait, Gonzalez Chuco 1249 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 2: Latito has he just has a I think just the 1250 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 2: right kind of punch selection and skills with the linear 1251 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: jabbing and some of the other punches he throws to 1252 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 2: to be in a tough fight with Martinez. But I 1253 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: think Chuck Latito's not done and some of the style 1254 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 2: matchups here for me, yeah, I like, I like Gonzalez here, 1255 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 2: I like the way you forbid, but I like this. 1256 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 3: It is smaller guy moving up with the perfect aggressive 1257 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 3: style to bring out the best of Chuck Latino. But 1258 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 3: yet it's also the potential for that to go hey wire. 1259 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 3: But I agree with you. That's why Chocolatito is the favorite. 1260 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 3: I was surprised it's it's minus one forty Chocolatito as 1261 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 3: the favorite, Julio says our Martinez, plus one fifteen. I 1262 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 3: expected it to be actually a little bit wider. So 1263 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 3: to be that close, you do have to remember that 1264 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 3: thirty four at these weight divisions one fifteen, I mean, 1265 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 3: that's ancient. That's ancient. Seriously, it's wild to think of 1266 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 3: it in those terms, but thirty four is ancient for this, 1267 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 3: and we had already seen Chocolatito, you know, get one 1268 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 3: punched by by the rat king himself, Steresa cat sol 1269 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 3: Rungvisai in the most brutal way possible one fight after 1270 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 3: going through twelve brutal rounds. I can't believe Chocolatito is 1271 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 3: still this good luke. We all thought he beat Estrada 1272 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 3: last year, so this has a chance again to just 1273 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 3: be him gifting boxing and us loving him back. Lucas, 1274 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 3: as a hardcore boxing fan, I want to like pay 1275 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 3: you to do ah, you know, resume reviewer or technical 1276 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 3: difficulty or whatever you call that you dissected on chocol 1277 01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 3: Latito because his footwork is like I mean, it's to 1278 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 3: the way he weaves in turns his body, throws a 1279 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 3: four punch combination of power shots, yet never stays in 1280 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 3: the line of sight and gets out of trouble without 1281 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,439 Speaker 3: having like I mean, he's got prime speed. He doesn't 1282 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 3: have like, you know, overwhelming speed. It's just unbelievable, and 1283 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 3: he now operating above his preferred weights and just he 1284 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 3: knows that he has to go through wars to win. 1285 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's it's great, dude. This is like 1286 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 3: Elvis coming into the building for the real boxing fans. Like, 1287 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 3: like as much as we're saying holy shit, no Nito 1288 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 3: dona air like at thirty eight thirty nine, what he's doing, Dude, 1289 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 3: we roll the red red carpet back out when when 1290 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 3: chocol Latino decides to make another return. I mean, dude, 1291 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 3: he became the pumper pound king at like one hundred 1292 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 3: and fifteen pounds, Like it doesn't happen in this modern 1293 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 3: day in the Floyd Manny era, you know what I mean. 1294 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 3: I know, like cause he's had to part perfectly, but 1295 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,440 Speaker 3: like he is the best guy in the sport for 1296 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 3: a window, you know. 1297 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Ba see, I will tell you a little secret. Obviously, 1298 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 2: Choco la Tito means little chocolate. That's the anything. If 1299 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 2: you see an eto or an eta on the end, 1300 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 2: it means they're taking something and making it little so 1301 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 2: casitago whatever? Uh do you know? 1302 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 3: What? 1303 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 2: Do you know? My Colombian in laws call me. This 1304 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 2: is true. They don't call me by my name ever. 1305 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 2: This is what they called me. 1306 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 3: God she sheets gring sheets day gringo. Look, is that 1307 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 3: what they call it? 1308 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 2: No gringito would be one they called me that sometimes. No, 1309 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 2: they call me Lukito. That is everywhere I go in 1310 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 2: that family. It's they take it and make it little Lukito. 1311 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 3: Luke too. 1312 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 2: It would have to be an accent on the o 1313 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 2: for it to say it that way. 1314 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 3: But just are they trying to emasculate you slowly luk or. 1315 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 2: Is this just like a no no, no no. That's 1316 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,560 Speaker 2: like a to take something and make a smaller version 1317 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 2: as a nickname or the description is actually a friendly 1318 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 2: way to do It's not a it's not They're not 1319 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 2: trying to diminish it. Not. 1320 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 3: I guess. Chocolate Tito's dad was nicknamed Chocolate in the 1321 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 3: in the in the coming up, and he was little Chocolate. 1322 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 3: So that's how he got that that nickname. 1323 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 2: So his father was Yeah, did he does he actually 1324 01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 2: have the nickname? 1325 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his dad's nickname. 1326 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 2: I don't chocolatte. I think, I think, I think it's it. Yeah. 1327 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,439 Speaker 3: Look in boxing, you find a lot of nicknames where 1328 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 3: the origin is racist, like Gino Marcus Madonna. Like you know, 1329 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 3: it's like it's not the most politically correct setup here 1330 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,920 Speaker 3: all the time, Luke. You know, they don't really give 1331 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 3: a damn uh Luke, we got twenty four minutes, but 1332 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 3: I got a great segment for you. Right. You can 1333 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 3: call me crazy, Luke, But each week I tend to 1334 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 3: have some uh interesting or hat or ill educated or 1335 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 3: maybe even ignorant takes, Luke. And you know, sometimes I 1336 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 3: put you to the test. I got seven of them. 1337 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 3: You tell me if no, you're onto something here BC, 1338 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 3: or no, you're fucking crazy, bro, Bro, Bro you crazy? 1339 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 2: Crazy? 1340 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 3: You crazy? Yeah, that's what it is. Play the animation, 1341 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 3: all right, I'm ready, all right, Luke, it's gonna be 1342 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 3: a little Dana heavy. Why because he gave an interview 1343 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 3: that he was actually invested in this week with Robbie 1344 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 3: Barstool on the My Mom's Basement podcast and by the way, 1345 01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 3: Robbie Fox, Luke thumbs up, right. We like that, dude, 1346 01:03:59,560 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 3: We like that. 1347 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like Robbie a lot. I've known him for 1348 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,040 Speaker 2: some time, and you know, a lot of nime media 1349 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 2: don't like him because he's not like traditional media. But 1350 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 2: he's a good person that I like him. 1351 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not trying to be what he's not. He's 1352 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 3: just living his life. It seems Dana on there said 1353 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 3: because Islam Mahachev turned the RDA fight down on four 1354 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 3: days notice, the UFC will not allow him to fight 1355 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:25,919 Speaker 3: for the title next. They're trying to make the Benildius fight. Presumably, Luke, 1356 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 3: that would be the final hurdle maybe before getting that title. Shout, Luke, 1357 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,160 Speaker 3: call me crazy, but Dana's best dirtbag mental manipulation angle 1358 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 3: here if you wanted to do it to try to 1359 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 3: squeeze one more payday out of Habib, would be to 1360 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 3: try to convince Normaga Madoff that his retirement is a 1361 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 3: selfish move because it's going to stunt the growth of 1362 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 3: all the fighters that he trains underneath, because of the 1363 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 3: level of pettiness that has really been the foundation of 1364 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 3: the that the UFC was built upon. Luke, I mean 1365 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,439 Speaker 3: a ten what fight win streak of steamroll in mf 1366 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 3: r's and Islam's still got to be one more guy 1367 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 3: because Connor might be cutting Habib's boys spot in line. 1368 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 3: This is the ultimate dirty backstab, try to hostage Habib's 1369 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 3: heartstrings and force an ill advised comeback foot. 1370 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 2: That is you're crazy. You're absolutely crazy. That is not 1371 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 2: what's happening. I don't know. You know, you and I 1372 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 2: were both in agreement when he says, well, he didn't 1373 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,880 Speaker 2: take the RDA fight, so we're just gonna make the 1374 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 2: dar Us fight like dar Ushman. I'd be round till 1375 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 2: late summer, early fall, potentially at the earliest, depending on 1376 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 2: how things go. And so it just sounded weird. It's 1377 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 2: like the guy's ranked at six and he needed that 1378 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 2: one to get the title shot, Like you wouldn't have 1379 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 2: made that under any other circumstance. Why is that so necessary? 1380 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 2: But none of that has to do with Habib. Also, BC, 1381 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 2: one time I had a birthday in Colombia. Can you 1382 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 2: read that cake? 1383 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Lukito, Lukito. I mean, look, Lukito, I 1384 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 3: can get r J on the horn right now. We're 1385 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,439 Speaker 3: gonna have some Lukeito merch on Morningcombat Dot Store very 1386 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 3: very soon to my buddy. 1387 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 2: My wife might love that. 1388 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 3: Yes, please love that. R J Dunklemaker, if you're out there, 1389 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 3: please guy big Ray Okay Luke number two here speaking 1390 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,919 Speaker 3: of Dana. He also told TMZ Sports not to count 1391 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 3: out a McGregor Diaz trilogy and that he would be 1392 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,439 Speaker 3: quote shocked if that fight didn't happen. Upon hearing that, 1393 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 3: Nate Diaz hilariously quote tweeted by saying, Connor's got a 1394 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 3: Connor's gonna have to get some wins improve He's not 1395 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 3: so fragile first end quote. Luke called me crazy. But 1396 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 3: if Nate Diaz can find a way to create a 1397 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 3: little bit more of a cuddly public image sort of 1398 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 3: side thing once in a while, he has the long 1399 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 3: term potential to be MMA's answer to Snoop Dogg, meaning 1400 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 3: he becomes the unofficial ambassador who was counterculture to start, 1401 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 3: but it's just so irresistibly real and yet a cartoon 1402 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 3: character at the same time that they become mainstream and 1403 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 3: he's always on camera and he's gonna be rich as hell. 1404 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 3: I sure as heck don't see Nate ever being like 1405 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 3: a TV analyst breaking down fights or even really Luke 1406 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 3: have his own podcast, but he's got that sort of 1407 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 3: nineties George Foreman vibe of like crossover acceptability. If he 1408 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,439 Speaker 3: could just put a little smile on it. I don't know, Luke, 1409 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 3: it sounds like me trying to water down what makes 1410 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 3: Nate so cool. But I feel like people want to 1411 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 3: love him at this level. Do you not see that? 1412 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 3: Like see with a pr with a little PR control, 1413 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 3: you know he could turn it. 1414 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's the thing though, like who has Snoop Dogg 1415 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 2: done advertising for? And the answer is everyone. Him and 1416 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 2: Shaq have basically taken up all the ad inventory on television. 1417 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 2: God bless him. I'd love to get those checks too. 1418 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 2: But what I mean to say is he successfully navigated 1419 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 2: doing commercials for Team Mobile being in a commercial with 1420 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 2: fucking Martha Stewart. Could Nate Diaz be in a commercial 1421 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 2: with Martha Stewart and maintain that sort of West Coast 1422 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 2: kind of gangster credibility? I don't know. 1423 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 3: No, you have straight up you have to sell out 1424 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 3: to a certain degree, but it's you're selling straight out 1425 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,919 Speaker 3: to the dollar though, and it's like like, I mean, look, 1426 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 3: even Ozzy Osbourne eventually became this when the when the 1427 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 3: when the Osbourne Family reality show hit? I mean he 1428 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 3: just became like this laughable meme. And I'm not saying, hey, Nate, 1429 01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 3: make you know, laugh at yourself more, make yourself look out, 1430 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 3: look to be a bitch. No, but if there is 1431 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 3: a there is a sneaky smart pr way where this 1432 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,600 Speaker 3: actually could happen and he could set himself up as 1433 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 3: sort of like this mascot of MMA and character because 1434 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 3: he just so damn cool Luke that it's just like, 1435 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:37,599 Speaker 3: you know, am I wrong on there? 1436 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean it is hold on our producers? Oh did 1437 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 2: you see this tweet? Just came up from Connor? No, 1438 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,679 Speaker 2: like this happened, uh five minutes ago. Quote. I'll fight 1439 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,799 Speaker 2: that shit stained Makachev no sweat, embarrassing, ground and pound 1440 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,679 Speaker 2: the other night, in my opinion, pitiful punching and then 1441 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,520 Speaker 2: bottles the RDA fight after mouthing off to him, Lol, embarrassing. 1442 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Watch when I come back same as before Anyone, Anyweight 1443 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 2: Anywhere game full of shit stains call me crazy BC. 1444 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe him. 1445 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 3: No, I don't believe at all. But credit to him 1446 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 3: for for stirring that out timing wise. By the way, 1447 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 3: after we talked last week or last episode, right, didn't 1448 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 3: he tweet out my next fight will be a title fight, 1449 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: like right after we were talking about how watch Dane 1450 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 3: is not going to care and uh, all right, Luke, 1451 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,040 Speaker 3: let's keep it going here though. During this week's UFC 1452 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 3: two seven to two media day, Greg Hardy called Twoey 1453 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 3: to Tai Tuyvas excuse me a quote cry baby liar 1454 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 3: who is scared to come fight him again. Luke called 1455 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,519 Speaker 3: me crazy, But uh yo, hey, Greg, you already called 1456 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 3: Twoey out next him to bang and he turned into 1457 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 3: Raco Safreddi against you. I mean it was ko one, 1458 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 3: So you don't have the right to say trash talk 1459 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 3: like this. It's like against the rules of and not 1460 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 3: how humanity rolls, Luke, I mean, what the hell are you? 1461 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 3: What like? Like, what what is that? Luke? What the what? Type? 1462 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 3: I mean? Are those are words? But I did I 1463 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 3: get your niner in there? Bro? 1464 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 2: How many times have you seen like a clip of 1465 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 2: a street fight where someone just gets handled and then 1466 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 2: they get up and they're like, I bet you won't 1467 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 2: do that shit again, and then they get handled again. 1468 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 2: This is the dude, Like dust themselves off the street fight, 1469 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,599 Speaker 2: being like, I bet you won't, I bet you won't 1470 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,719 Speaker 2: bang my girlfriend again, and then they just go into bang. 1471 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 3: Dude, go out there and bang speedback and then grab 1472 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,719 Speaker 3: the mic and be like tuevos out. 1473 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 2: You know, exactly exactly exact, I'm back do something first. 1474 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, uh luke. Uh. Dana 1475 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 3: White also told Robbie Fox quote speaking of Connor, By 1476 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 3: the way, anybody who is pissed off because Connor might 1477 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 3: fucking get a title shot, you're a fucking idiot too. 1478 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,880 Speaker 3: If that pisses you off, Jesus Christ, calm down, buddy 1479 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 3: end quote. God, that's on brand, Luke. I mean, that 1480 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,879 Speaker 3: is just mother f and ond Luke called me crazy. 1481 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 3: But the only thing about this situation that should actually 1482 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 3: be pissing Dana off is that anyone is actually talking 1483 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 3: about this and not talking about the fact that Cooby 1484 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 3: Covington is the A side of Saturday's pay per view 1485 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 3: and yet it isn't getting any pay per view points. 1486 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you a question. Are you saying 1487 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 2: he's the A side because yesterday's presser he arguably got 1488 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,720 Speaker 2: more cheers than Jorge. 1489 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 3: No I'm saying because the way that that UFC presents 1490 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 3: the event from the news, you know, the from how 1491 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,240 Speaker 3: the news breaks to the poster. The name first is 1492 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 3: the A side. This is Covington versus Mosvedal. So I mean, 1493 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 3: you could obviously argue that Jorge is bringing much more fans, 1494 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 3: but every piece of poster or lower third it's Masvidal 1495 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 3: versus coving or. H yeah, exactly, I'm sorry, Covington versus Masvidal. 1496 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 3: There you go. 1497 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's unusual. You don't see it that often. I 1498 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 2: did see it one time when I covered a Tito 1499 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,919 Speaker 2: Ortiz fight for belats Or. He was fighting Liam mcgeary 1500 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 2: and mcgeary was the champ at that time, and so 1501 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 2: the title of the whatever belltort was, I'm just gonna 1502 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 2: say one hundred, it wasn't, but whatever number it was, 1503 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 2: it was like belltore one hundred, or Teas versus mcgeary. 1504 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 2: But you understood that in the San Jose market because 1505 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,800 Speaker 2: tit or T's was a much bigger name. Okay, that 1506 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 2: that makes sense. But is Covington a much bigger name 1507 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 2: than masviital I. 1508 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 3: Just no, I think they look at it as he 1509 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 3: so he has a brighter, he has more he it's 1510 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 3: arguable that he has potential to make more big fights 1511 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 3: at you know, at a longer distance given his age 1512 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 3: than Mosville, even though they're only three. 1513 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 2: That is certainly true. 1514 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, like and and if they they 1515 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 3: want to leave open the door of him getting back 1516 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,479 Speaker 3: in for a third USMAV But yeah, of course, it's 1517 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 3: all part of the pr ideal. That's why you look 1518 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 3: at the two stocks and you go, Covington's the A side. 1519 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,720 Speaker 3: But Luke, how do you like, how are they in this? 1520 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 3: Like we already okay, I'm not read, don't Luke, don't 1521 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 3: relitigate the fight pay thing because I got fourteen great 1522 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 3: minutes left in me here, Luke, But I mean, how 1523 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 3: do you even sign on at that point? 1524 01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 2: What choice does he have? 1525 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 3: That's you answered it? But like, how is that even like. 1526 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 2: It's just our reality. We're so used to covering boxing 1527 01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 2: where like that would never fly for you know, to 1528 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 2: your point, the A name in the in the in 1529 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 2: the poster. But it's like, why did he do it? 1530 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 2: Probably because of all of his options, this was whether 1531 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 2: it was good or not his best one, so he 1532 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 2: took it. I mean, I don't know what else to say. 1533 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,879 Speaker 3: It's wild how this world works, Luke. Uh indeed all right? Uh. 1534 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 3: Last week, Luke, the UFC moved and already scheduled lightweight 1535 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 3: bout between Donald Cerni and Joe Lozon to May seventh, 1536 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 3: UFC two seventy four. Cowboy, of course, tied with Jim 1537 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 3: Miller for the most UFC wins at twenty three. And 1538 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 3: anytime you get two beloved veteran action hearers together at 1539 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 3: this age, you expect sloppy violence, and you probably expect 1540 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 3: Twitter to call for the loser to retire. So luke 1541 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 3: it with that in mind. Call me crazy, but I 1542 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 3: know the MK fan base mostly hates pro wrestling and 1543 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 3: hates when I even mentioned anything to do with it, 1544 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 3: and they certainly hate when I use the term loser 1545 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 3: leaves town match to describe certain UFC fights. But that's 1546 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 3: kind of what they are, and that's kind of what 1547 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 3: they should be. Just like how much UFC celebrates the 1548 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 3: fighter's birth into the UFC system through Tough or the 1549 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 3: Dana White Contender series, the fighters have to fight and 1550 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,919 Speaker 3: win to secure a job. The end of this combat 1551 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,679 Speaker 3: food cycle should also be celebrated the same way. Every 1552 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 3: other UFC pay per view card should feature one specific 1553 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,719 Speaker 3: fight matching two name and sort of you know, loved 1554 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,760 Speaker 3: but journeyman action heroes who are close enough to the 1555 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 3: same way. They've got the seronium loson reputation, and the 1556 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 3: loser is likely gonna get cut anyway. So you make 1557 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 3: this loser leaves town, the winner gets a big fight. 1558 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 3: Because of it, the loser has to retire for at 1559 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 3: least one year. But those losers looke, they're sent off 1560 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 3: with respect and a fifty K bonus package severance to 1561 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 3: ease that transition into retirement. 1562 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,720 Speaker 2: If the themselves made that a condition, I'd be all 1563 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 2: in favor of it. If the promotion made that a condition, 1564 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 2: I'd be like, that's way too heavy handed. But honestly, 1565 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 2: to your point, this is about as good of a 1566 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 2: case for that as any. Joela Zan has been off 1567 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 2: for a while and I talked to him once and 1568 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, I'm just waiting. You know, I 1569 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 2: don't need to take a fight. He's got a school, 1570 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 2: he saved a bunch of money, you know, like he 1571 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 2: knows he's doesn't have a lot of time left. He 1572 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 2: just wanted to take one that you know, made sense 1573 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 2: for the time and the place and the opponent, and 1574 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 2: was like, if it's the right one, then I'll do it. 1575 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 2: That kind of a thing, and so Seroni fits that bill. Conversely, 1576 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 2: we've been saying, SERENI shit, retire already if you lost 1577 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,680 Speaker 2: to Lasan, not that would be some kind of shameful thing, 1578 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 2: but just you know, the accumulation at that point, Dude, 1579 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 2: this is actually if you were gonna do it, this 1580 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 2: is a great candidate to do it. I would I say, 1581 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: that's not crazy, Okay. 1582 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's pro wrestling. I mean it's basically how 1583 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 3: Rick Flair's retirement match against Sean Michaels was promoted of 1584 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 3: all these matches ahead of time. If he lost, you 1585 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 3: had to be done. And then finally you lose on WrestleMania. Luke, Okay, 1586 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 3: I know it's not. 1587 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, who could possibly care about that? Not me? 1588 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 3: You know, you know I love you. That was the 1589 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 3: great those HBK. Yeah, all right, Luke. 1590 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 2: One day did my friend my friend, my friend who's 1591 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 2: an attorney, moved to Tampa and he has this local 1592 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 2: like sports bar near his house. I've sent you these 1593 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,599 Speaker 2: pictures every time he goes there. This has happened now 1594 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 2: four times. Every time he goes there. Rick Flair is 1595 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 2: sitting at the bar with a gaggle of people, usually women, 1596 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 2: and he's just Rick flaring it up and duss the 1597 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 2: top of the town down there. 1598 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 3: He just broke up with his wife again and like 1599 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 3: they parted ways mutually, but it basically by the by 1600 01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 3: the words he put out there, it kind of was 1601 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 3: like he just wants to live out the final years 1602 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,960 Speaker 3: as wild and you know, like because you know, obviously 1603 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 3: almost died and had that horrific scenario to you know, 1604 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 3: in the hospital, and you know, she he's just sort 1605 01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 3: of like, Okay, I mean it's like, dude, he's he's 1606 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 3: still It's not only he's still living it. He can't 1607 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 3: not live it. That's that's like, that's who he is, Luke. Okay, 1608 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,760 Speaker 3: he's a mass spot for living it. But you know 1609 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like, that's who the. 1610 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 2: Nato boy sip of malt liquor on that roof and 1611 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to die. Old fucking Rick is out there. 1612 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 2: What is Rick's late sixties, early seventies or something. 1613 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and but just and you know, he in his 1614 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 3: body's been through hell Luke and back now you know 1615 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 3: the whole career, right, I mean that's I mean, look, 1616 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 3: he was not only just a cut in his late 1617 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,560 Speaker 3: fifties into even like sixties, he was forget competent. He 1618 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 3: was still technically like an exceptional wrestler and physical performance 1619 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,160 Speaker 3: like it's it's he's that freak of nature like a 1620 01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 3: by the way, like the Rolling Stones guitarist. Right, you 1621 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 3: know what i mean, where you're just like you're never 1622 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 3: gonna die, rich gonna die? Yeah, yeah, just like Keith Richards, Right, 1623 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:37,759 Speaker 3: You're like just made of something. 1624 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 2: Who's done more drugs? Keith Richards or Rick Flair? 1625 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 3: Wow, you know, I'd say, because Rick is, Rick's probably 1626 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 3: done at all, But because he's such a drinker, I'd 1627 01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 3: say it's much more likely that Keith's done more. But 1628 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,720 Speaker 3: like who's consumed more? If you had alcohol to that 1629 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 3: and cigarettes and you just go straight in. I mean, 1630 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,719 Speaker 3: you know, I'd like to see a lot of their stats, 1631 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:03,599 Speaker 3: to be fair, Luke. 1632 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,799 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I want to see evidence 1633 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 2: of blood in Keith Richard's heroin stream. That's really what 1634 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm looking for here. 1635 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 3: I really I was thinking more about Space Mountain Luke, 1636 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 3: you know it's a long line, right, Yeah, oldest ride 1637 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,759 Speaker 3: in the park. Luke Arioljwani caught up with Tyson Fury, 1638 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,639 Speaker 3: and the lineal and WBC heavyweight champion said he would 1639 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,640 Speaker 3: retire from boxing for good after fighting Dillian White in 1640 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,759 Speaker 3: April twenty third, and would then fight Francis and Ghanu 1641 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 3: with four ounce Gloves at Raiders Stadium and then from 1642 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 3: there on only except carnival or crossover fights until the 1643 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 3: end of his career. Luke, there's a reason why this 1644 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 3: factoid didn't make a didn't make a news item in 1645 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,880 Speaker 3: our show this week. Call me crazy, but there probably 1646 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,400 Speaker 3: wasn't a single word said by Fury in that entire 1647 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 3: interview that wasn't a lie. Sometimes, of course, Luke, you 1648 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 3: can get a dialed in Fury, but this guy just 1649 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 3: says wild shit all the time. The answers will change 1650 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 3: from interview to interview, like and it's a part and 1651 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,759 Speaker 3: if you're not a hardcore fight fan, you get fooled 1652 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 3: each time. Like I mean, it's like hilarious in one way. 1653 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 3: It's sort of this Andy Kaufman style of like purposely 1654 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:15,080 Speaker 3: irritant comedy, but it's unbelievable that it just keeps happening. 1655 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 2: Luke, I will say, you're not crazy. However, I will 1656 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,639 Speaker 2: say a he might take a break after beating Dillion White, 1657 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 2: assuming he beats Dillion White number one, so you might 1658 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,240 Speaker 2: see him like, you know, not getting back at it 1659 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 2: number two. I do think he takes one circus fight 1660 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 2: before it's all said and done, whatever that is, how 1661 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,760 Speaker 2: that is, I don't know, but I do think he'll 1662 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 2: take one. 1663 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he already did the WWE thing and 1664 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 3: he's talking about why. 1665 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 2: No, no, no no, But I mean like a sanctioned like oh, 1666 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 2: whether it's Francis or some shit. 1667 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,720 Speaker 3: No, I'll get your point, but all of that does 1668 01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,760 Speaker 3: fall under the same circus in Big ten. At the 1669 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,960 Speaker 3: end of the day, I got one more call me crazy. Look, 1670 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 3: we'll see if this segment ever comes back. Who knows. 1671 01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 3: Speaking of Tyson Fury, him and Dillion White sold eighty 1672 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,640 Speaker 3: four thousand tickets to their April twenty third fight at 1673 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:05,439 Speaker 3: London's Wembley Stadium in three minutes. Eighty four thousand tickets 1674 01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 3: in three minutes. Promoter Frank Warren, who outbit Eddie Hearn 1675 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,560 Speaker 3: for the record chattering purse bid. Victory is trying to 1676 01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 3: actually get Wembley Stadium reworked to get the full capacity 1677 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 3: to somewhere just under one hundred thousand, so they can 1678 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 3: break the record set by Anthony Joshua and Vladimir Klitschko 1679 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 3: in England when they did ninety and twenty seventeen. Luke 1680 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,799 Speaker 3: called me crazy, But I feel like the combat sports 1681 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 3: culture in the UK and in Ireland is so insanely 1682 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:39,639 Speaker 3: intoxicating right now and rabid that even you and I 1683 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 3: could do a live morning combat episode in London with 1684 01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,680 Speaker 3: three months noticed and the promise of special guests in 1685 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 3: the advertisement, and we could put five thousand asses in 1686 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,720 Speaker 3: the seats. 1687 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 2: Depends on the ticket price, Luke. Tell me, Yeah, You're. 1688 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 3: Damn fucking right, we could, Luke. And that's not all 1689 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,600 Speaker 3: about how big our balls are or how big and 1690 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,400 Speaker 3: great our style and show is. But Luke, them motherfuckers 1691 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 3: are like they look. They they don't want to smoke. 1692 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 3: They need it, Luke, that's their lifestyle. They're fighters. You know, 1693 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,800 Speaker 3: I am an eighth Iris. That's probably always in the 1694 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,680 Speaker 3: back of your mind when I size you. 1695 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,720 Speaker 2: Up, Luke, I don't believe you. 1696 01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 3: I mean us Lithuanians are tough as well. I don't 1697 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 3: know about the French Canadian side. Look, I think that's 1698 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,640 Speaker 3: my emotional side. But you know, us Lithuanians, I mean 1699 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 3: we're already you know, kind of about it. But you 1700 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 3: add that eighth of Iris Luke a little proper twelve 1701 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,720 Speaker 3: right on top right, you know. 1702 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the key. You'll get the real 1703 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 2: Irish out of b C with it. Just pour some 1704 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 2: alcohol on top, Luke. 1705 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,720 Speaker 3: But here's the deal though, I mean, there's many of 1706 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 3: people that have done the live podcast thing, and you know, 1707 01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 3: and sometimes they feel I used to do the wrestling 1708 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 3: podcast Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg. We'd fill a you know, 1709 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 3: a couple of hundred seat theater and it'd be a 1710 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:10,880 Speaker 3: hilariously fun live show. Five K Luke, five k bro 1711 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 3: could be. 1712 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 2: It would be it would be difficult, but we could 1713 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:15,240 Speaker 2: do it. We could do it. 1714 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,800 Speaker 3: I mean, what if we got a great guest that 1715 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,120 Speaker 3: like you know what I mean that. 1716 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,240 Speaker 2: They just got Tyson Fury and Dillian White. 1717 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got like half the cast of like, 1718 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 3: what's the soccer show Luke that we all love? 1719 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the soccer show. 1720 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the damn soccer show on Apple Plus. What the 1721 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 3: hell is Looke on? My brain's just turning off. 1722 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 2: It's oh, the greatest show with the coach who's American. 1723 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tatrez got Itarez is the name of show again, 1724 01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 3: Luke ted Lasso, thank you, Looke. I think we can 1725 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 3: do it. We will team up with those blokes and 1726 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:52,920 Speaker 3: make this happen. 1727 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 2: All right, good to know. 1728 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,559 Speaker 3: Do you think we need a musical guest? 1729 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,960 Speaker 2: Yes, we need We need a jackal the sound guy. 1730 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,680 Speaker 3: The guy in our dot. Luke's talking about the guy 1731 01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 3: in Doc six who is like the white guy with 1732 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 3: the dreads who's like one of our and he's like 1733 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,880 Speaker 3: a freelancer and he's worked on some of our morning 1734 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,480 Speaker 3: combat shoots and if you look him up on Instagram, 1735 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:22,120 Speaker 3: he's like a influencer, slash edm producer and like, yo, Luke, like, 1736 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,160 Speaker 3: it's just this dude holding the boom mic for us. 1737 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 3: And then he's like, no, dude, I dj' at these, like, 1738 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 3: you know, world festivals and stuff. 1739 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 2: You know, he DJ'ed at Coachella and he has some 1740 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 2: of the music at every single Golden Knights game that 1741 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,760 Speaker 2: they play. 1742 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 3: It's wild. Call shout a jackal, Right. 1743 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Well, by the way our producer say, we could get 1744 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,880 Speaker 2: Mnische and the music he makes plus Jackal plus off 1745 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 2: in Space, and then as the closer, we could get 1746 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,720 Speaker 2: Pennington James to really make sure that. 1747 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 3: The well, look, Pennington James is gonna have to be 1748 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,719 Speaker 3: the curtain jerker. I forgot that, Yo, ch can ball 1749 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 3: And what is what is Gaff's hip hop stage name? Luke? 1750 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,639 Speaker 2: Is it off in Spaced? I don't know, off in Spaced? 1751 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, dude. 1752 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,280 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. If there's a fire in the building, 1753 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,320 Speaker 2: rather than hitting the fire alarm, we'll just tell Pennington 1754 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,200 Speaker 2: James to play and that will just clear out the 1755 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 2: room just the same look. 1756 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:19,040 Speaker 3: I love that everyone on Malca they got like they 1757 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 3: got hopes and dreams. I don't know if they have 1758 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,280 Speaker 3: the ways and means, Luke, but they got like what 1759 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying is they're just waiting. They're busting tables right now, 1760 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 3: but they're coming for it, you know what I'm saying. 1761 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,559 Speaker 3: And hey, Molse, if you're coming on, why That's why 1762 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 3: I was telling each I'm like, Yo, is this just 1763 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,000 Speaker 3: a hobby or is this you? Is this your life? 1764 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,719 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. This only gets. 1765 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,400 Speaker 2: One Shotington James. This is why Penton James never plays 1766 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 2: in front of crowded theaters because it's actually illegal for 1767 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,679 Speaker 2: him to play, because it causes such a mad rush 1768 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 2: to the exit that it ends up like a Rhode 1769 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 2: Island theater or a bar or whatever. 1770 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,960 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you're talking about the Great White. 1771 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 2: Are we doing? 1772 01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 3: Are we doing that bit again? I'm for that bit, dude. 1773 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,799 Speaker 2: I got, I got, I saw, I saw old highlights 1774 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,200 Speaker 2: of it, and there was a terrible human tragedy. I'm like, Wow, 1775 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Pennington James, Really he's making them hit the exit. Huh. 1776 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,679 Speaker 3: Do you think Sally from Staten Island's got some bars too, Luke? 1777 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 3: I mean, everybody on that team can can except for Jake. 1778 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 3: Jake's just a brilliant documentarian. And then that weird guy 1779 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,720 Speaker 3: Phil he got He probably just chasing old women, Luke. 1780 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 3: But uh yeah, all right, Luke. Phil went to Vanderbilt, 1781 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:23,920 Speaker 3: who know, right? 1782 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? But did he graduate? I mean he went to Vanderbilt, 1783 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Like, I've been to Yale. 1784 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 2: I didn't graduate. 1785 01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 3: One day. I'll tell you the story about how I 1786 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 3: drove across the quad at Yale accidentally Luke, that's not 1787 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 3: a good story at all. Yeah, all right, Luke, I 1788 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,559 Speaker 3: think that's it. Ninety minutes, probably the best ninety minutes 1789 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:43,000 Speaker 3: of your day. 1790 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,800 Speaker 2: Oh we have to do. We have to do dead wrong, 1791 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 2: fuck face? 1792 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 3: Oh god, you serious? 1793 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 2: Go through them quickly, go through them quickly. 1794 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know I had time. I told you 1795 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,640 Speaker 3: I had this shit under control, that I had the 1796 01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,919 Speaker 3: ninety minutes timed out that didn't. 1797 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,879 Speaker 2: Include their own petard. 1798 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,320 Speaker 3: Wow, Taylor said, no, this is Harry and Ben. Hey BC, 1799 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,400 Speaker 3: you old bitch. Oh god, Luke. 1800 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 2: At one of the. 1801 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,760 Speaker 3: Friday Show, you said that Josh Taylor secured all four 1802 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 3: light welterweight belts by stopping Jose Rameirez late. Actually, despite 1803 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 3: Taylor dropping Ramerez in round six and seven, he secured 1804 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,760 Speaker 3: Curre the unanimous decision points. When you're damn right, I 1805 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 3: got that wrong. I'm writing this on Saturday morning from 1806 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 3: a rain very rainy Glascow, Glasgow, Glasgow and can't and 1807 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 3: can't wait for the fights later on. Oh he this, 1808 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 3: He must have wrote this before the Taylor fight. He's like, yo, 1809 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 3: I hope this fight is the stepping stone towards Josh 1810 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,639 Speaker 3: Taylor getting the international respect that he deserves. Luke, somebody 1811 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,679 Speaker 3: should tell this guy that it didn't happen. 1812 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:47,800 Speaker 2: Yes, speaking speaking of dead wrong. 1813 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe you should look in the mirror over 1814 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,640 Speaker 3: there in Scotland. So yeah, all right, uh Luke. On 1815 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,880 Speaker 3: the this is Michael on the February twenty eighth show, 1816 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 3: BC did what he does best, which is to walk 1817 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:05,599 Speaker 3: out of his ass. See. 1818 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't know why people don't like this segment. This 1819 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:07,880 Speaker 2: segment is. 1820 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,720 Speaker 3: In the middle of him reading Gayguard Musase's resume. He 1821 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 3: somehow read Gayguard's win over Douglas Lima as a stopage, 1822 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 3: even though it was a decision victory. I can't tell 1823 01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 3: if it's part of his stick to be illiterate or 1824 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,559 Speaker 3: if he's just bad at his job. Can we sub 1825 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 3: BC out for an actual professional like Ariel Hellwani? 1826 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 2: Wow? Wow? 1827 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:38,720 Speaker 3: Well, you know, wow, Luke, I'm sure if I ever 1828 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,559 Speaker 3: risen myself out of this job soon, that will be 1829 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,840 Speaker 3: Ariel Wanne filling in. That's coming through that curtain. But yeah, 1830 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:50,439 Speaker 3: for now, you're in Canada. For now, this chair is mine, 1831 01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 3: that boy is mine, Okay. Yeah, that gross, sweaty carcass 1832 01:27:55,280 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 3: of a hairy man. Yeah, that's a that's mine. On 1833 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 3: Monday's episode, well, oh no, that's the same one. Let's 1834 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 3: keep this moving. This is from a bunch of people, Luke, 1835 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 3: They're coming after you. During Wednesday show, Luke said that 1836 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 3: Danger Mouse's fan submission was him eating noodles to Lincoln 1837 01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,519 Speaker 3: Park lyrics. Those lyrics are, in fact not from Lincoln Park. 1838 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,960 Speaker 3: Remember the name is a song by Fort Minor. Innocent mistake, 1839 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 3: but I personally love their music, so I caught it immediately. Yo, 1840 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,080 Speaker 3: all love from t Neck, New Jersey. It's Joseph what 1841 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,600 Speaker 3: is I? 1842 01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,759 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Fort Minor? Uh and candidly 1843 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:31,680 Speaker 2: Lincoln Park. It turns out, so. 1844 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 3: Yo, what about the nerve on on? Jay Aaron to 1845 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,479 Speaker 3: try to try to tell you that Shine Down is 1846 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 3: the greatest rock band in history and then go yo, 1847 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,760 Speaker 3: they have the most number one hits of any other 1848 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 3: band and you and like You're like, is like are 1849 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 3: there other cameras? Is this a is this a routine? Like? 1850 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 3: Is you know what I mean? Like? Is there gonna 1851 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 3: be a like a. 1852 01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Fort Minor is the rapper? Oh isn't that Mike Shanoda? 1853 01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:10,639 Speaker 3: Oh man, Luke, you just got super in real time. 1854 01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:15,599 Speaker 3: The people can't. 1855 01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta get gaff a microphone that the audience 1856 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 2: can hear. But but he basically says, it's the rapper from 1857 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,559 Speaker 2: Lincoln Park and there's so it's not like super super wrong, 1858 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,639 Speaker 2: but it's wrong indeed, alsorry. I don't give a fuck 1859 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,599 Speaker 2: about Lincoln Park's music and I don't think it's good. 1860 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,320 Speaker 2: So there you go, yo. 1861 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,280 Speaker 3: If that one song comes on though, right, No, No, 1862 01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of the other awesome song, Luke, that Evan 1863 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,960 Speaker 3: Essence song. You know, if that Evan Essence song comes 1864 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 3: on there, yo, bro, I'm shutting that ship down. You 1865 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 3: me down. You know what I'm saying, Luke, Yeah, you know, 1866 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,240 Speaker 3: I'll just go full vape on you. 1867 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:53,840 Speaker 2: This is a very low te moment for me, very that. 1868 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 3: Me being that human that I was like a human 1869 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,720 Speaker 3: vape Luke. I was just like, this is why I am. 1870 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 2: You can't change don't change me. Mama's dad, all. 1871 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,439 Speaker 3: Right, Hey, Micah's here. At roughly forty three point thirty 1872 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 3: of Wednesday's pod, BC refers to Isla Mahachev as undefeated. Uh. 1873 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,760 Speaker 3: He waves the motumbo finger at me and says no, no, no. 1874 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,599 Speaker 3: Adriano Martinz put the big ol' l on his resume 1875 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen. Side note, At one twenty two of 1876 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,080 Speaker 3: Wednesday's show, a sith lord sounding voice appears to move 1877 01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:29,559 Speaker 3: you guys along. Was that Gaff or Cory? Blessings upon you? 1878 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,479 Speaker 3: It's Micah. 1879 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't know who that was, all right, I hope 1880 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:36,120 Speaker 2: it was Gaff. 1881 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,080 Speaker 3: I hope it was Gaff spitting spitting hot rhymes under 1882 01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,800 Speaker 3: the uh Offen spaced label Luke. 1883 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,760 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, good to know. 1884 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 3: All right, Uh, they're calling out my uh Canadian They 1885 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,960 Speaker 3: want they want to revoke my Canadian passport. This is 1886 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:56,599 Speaker 3: uh Andre ladosieur, ladosieur, ladosur luke. He says, is it 1887 01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,560 Speaker 3: manure or in manuever. 1888 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Tuk or toke mugnier monier. 1889 01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:06,840 Speaker 3: I hereby riscinned BC's complimentary passport to Canada. You have 1890 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,800 Speaker 3: no ties here, sir. Good luck in Lithuania. Wow, bro. 1891 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:13,719 Speaker 2: First of all, I don't think that was the only 1892 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,920 Speaker 2: thing he corrected you on, because I got this email 1893 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,760 Speaker 2: as well. There's more. He says, you got manure a 1894 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,440 Speaker 2: monk or toke. 1895 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:32,639 Speaker 3: And I said that, yeah, sorry sorry. Also, first of all, Andre, uh, 1896 01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 3: you're not the giant and uh, I'm French Canadian, which 1897 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,759 Speaker 3: means I'm Quebecian. That's where my that's where my great 1898 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,599 Speaker 3: great grandparents come from. 1899 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,160 Speaker 2: So they don't call people from Quebec. 1900 01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,599 Speaker 3: They never believed they were part of Canada anyway. Okay, 1901 01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,400 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So it's all good. 1902 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,439 Speaker 2: They call people from Quebec BC. Just I'm going to 1903 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:50,960 Speaker 2: verify this. 1904 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's the I call it, how what we 1905 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,320 Speaker 3: really call it? It's in French, so I you know, 1906 01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 3: I didn't know the. 1907 01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,000 Speaker 2: Exact Yes, it's a French word. What is it? 1908 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 3: The kubek kuah? 1909 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 2: That's right, very good, Kobe kuai. That's right from Luke. 1910 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,880 Speaker 3: Also one fan this is per I think this is 1911 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,559 Speaker 3: from mikey. Oh yeah, so one fan is saying that 1912 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 3: Luke told the Oh they're saying you told the Bruce 1913 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 3: Hornsby story on MK to Aaron bronstead Ter while I 1914 01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,800 Speaker 3: was on vacation. So not a real dead wrong but 1915 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,720 Speaker 3: a side note. But Luke a follow up somebody DM me, 1916 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,479 Speaker 3: I wish I had their name, and they said, hey, 1917 01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 3: by the way, Bruce Hornsby's son who grew up in 1918 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,120 Speaker 3: Williamsburg was a guard on LSU and is now playing 1919 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,400 Speaker 3: hoops internationally. He's a six foot three Luke, I had 1920 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:36,800 Speaker 3: no idea. 1921 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 2: I didn't know that that's cool. I mean, he was 1922 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:40,680 Speaker 2: was even born when I was in college. I was 1923 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 2: in college twenty years ago. So yeah, I horns because 1924 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:45,840 Speaker 2: fucking ball. 1925 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,440 Speaker 3: Yo. That means that Bruce is still after that ship, right, Yeah. 1926 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,639 Speaker 2: Bruce is out there just dunking on these haters. 1927 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:56,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's like and that's just the way it is, 1928 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,639 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, some things will never changed 1929 01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,320 Speaker 3: for old horned Bruce Hornsby. That's what I'm talking about. 1930 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,200 Speaker 3: That's how men do. Luke. I was six minutes too late, 1931 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,160 Speaker 3: which is never a phrase either of us have ever 1932 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,719 Speaker 3: ever ever uttered, Luke. 1933 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,840 Speaker 2: But yes, I've never told another woman. This took six 1934 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:15,760 Speaker 2: minutes longer than. 1935 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:22,040 Speaker 3: I and I was expecting. Okay, yeah, there it is. Yeah, Luke, 1936 01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:24,120 Speaker 3: I can't wait one day if we if you one 1937 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,320 Speaker 3: of like, imagine if you and I became like litigious 1938 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,720 Speaker 3: podcast hosts and we suit each other, Luke, Like, when 1939 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 3: when this full? When this show eventually breaks apart? Luke, 1940 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,280 Speaker 3: I wanted to be I wanted to end in a 1941 01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,640 Speaker 3: lawsuit where they have to like go back and like 1942 01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 3: bring out all the text messages and emails and I'm like, wow, 1943 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:43,439 Speaker 3: these two foul lude morons were made for each other. Guys, 1944 01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,679 Speaker 3: just get back together. I mean, what are you doing here? 1945 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:48,759 Speaker 2: You know we are. I'll see you in court. 1946 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,839 Speaker 3: I'll see you hi court. 1947 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll see you in court, high court or regular court. Hi, 1948 01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,000 Speaker 2: either way, either way. 1949 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, you still guilty as sin. That's the great, Luke Thomas, 1950 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm your boy. BC. Morningcombat at gmail dot com is 1951 01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,200 Speaker 3: the email address for those type of dead wrongs. There's 1952 01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:09,760 Speaker 3: our social channels. Follow us. 1953 01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:10,479 Speaker 2: Uh. 1954 01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:15,840 Speaker 3: Morningcombat dot store is the launch of our Saint Patrick's Day. 1955 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 3: So if you're Irish, or you like Irish people, or 1956 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 3: you know, if you got an eighth the toughness in 1957 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,400 Speaker 3: you like me, you can head on over there. There's onesies. 1958 01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,599 Speaker 3: Look so onesies now, it's. 1959 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 2: Amazing how wholesome babies. 1960 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,439 Speaker 3: I mean the onesie has like beer beer mugs on it. 1961 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:32,880 Speaker 3: But Luke, that's pretty wholesome, all. 1962 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:38,320 Speaker 2: Right, yes, very wholesome content. 1963 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like actually, can you put the the 1964 01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 3: BC and Luke face somewhere around the coach? Coach, please please, 1965 01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:51,839 Speaker 3: coach Okay, big Jair, just take Big Jair step back. Okay, okay, 1966 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,599 Speaker 3: just yeah, yeah, no, say the covids over, but six 1967 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,559 Speaker 3: feet distance there, coach, Thank you very much for everyone 1968 01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:05,680 Speaker 3: at malcol showtime, CBS Sports. That's Luke Thomas. Enjoy the 1969 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,360 Speaker 3: fights this weekend. Luke, will you be giving the people 1970 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:08,759 Speaker 3: what they want post two to seven. 1971 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 2: Two be right here after the fights post fight show. 1972 01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,400 Speaker 2: We got you covered and uh it should be a 1973 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:15,400 Speaker 2: good time. I'll see you there guys. 1974 01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 3: Then that's it. Enjoy the fights on BC. Two words, 1975 01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:18,760 Speaker 3: we are