1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are back to recap Women 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Tell All, Bachelor in Paradise, and then we have we 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: do a live interview with all the women from Women 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Tell All. It was a lot of fun. We have Ellen, 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: we have Sandra helped me out. Who else? 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: We have Faith, Faith, we have Natasha, we have we 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: have a lot, there's a. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: Lot of a lot of the women from Golden Bacher, Joan, Joan, Yeah, 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: we hear from Joan. Great interview with her and Susan. 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: And Susan, Yeah, it was a lot of fun. We 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: got to watch the Women Tell All taping live via 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: zoom and then do interviews with all these women and 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: Gary we Can't Forget the Bachelor himself came on and 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: it was like a little speed dating round if you 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: listen to our podcast during charity season, we did a 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: similar esque style interview for her meant All and They're 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: a ton of fun. 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: And then later in the week we also will have 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Sam Pee from Chelor in Paradise and. 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: Professional Paradise Canada. I know, I actually don't know where 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 2: in Canada she's from. We'll find out, so I'm excited 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: to find out. I should actually see if we have 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: any mutual friends. If she's from Toronto, it's not that big. 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. I bet, I bet you guys know 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: at least one person. I know. 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: I should actually check. I'll go on our Instagram and 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: check our mutuals. But it's been a big week for 29 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Paradise and Golden Sol's been a big week for Joe 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: here in the marathon. 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: I did run the New York Marathon. It was it 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: was a very it was an accomplishment. 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: It was a huge accomplishment. Jo Joe's having trouble giving 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: himself a paddle of the back, which is so rare. 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: So it's actually, yeah, no, I I ran the New 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: York Marathon. I didn't. I didn't train a lot for it. 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to doing it again next year. 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd try. 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to break four hours at broke four hours, 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: so I was proud of myself about that. I ran 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: it with Zach Clark. He helped me out a lot. 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: And yeah, I was just who else from Boscher was there? 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Was you, Zach Clark and Matt James, Right. 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. I think that was it, and yeah, 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: crossing the finish line was like a feeling I've never had, 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: and yeah, I loved it. I love that. I'm hooked. 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm hoping I'm a marathon running now. So I also 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: want to run Chicago next year, so ye see. 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: And I want him to run Ottawa in the spring 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: because a lot of my friends are running Ottawa, so 51 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: that could be fun. 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to do three next year, and 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: if I do Chicago and New York, I don't know 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: if I want to do Ottawa as well. 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just go to visit. Then I will not 56 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: be running a marathon. In case anyone was wondering, I 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: will at most do a half marathon. If I were 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: to ever do a marathon, I could maybe get myself 59 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: up to. 60 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: A half, but I'll do it half with you. 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: I had two I had knee surgery, and I've had 62 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: two s very knee injuries. Last thing I want to 63 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: do is pound the pavement for two miles. But so 64 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: proud of you. You did amazing and congratulations to the 65 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: rest of our Bachelor and Bachelor Nation family who ran 66 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: the marathon this weekend in New York. And we also 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: got to give a very quick shout out to Tia 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: who got married this weekend. 69 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Yes, we were at the Walton party. It was a 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: lot of fun. It was a karaoke welcome party. 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: And it was really fun. Like they threw a great party. 72 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: She actually has friends and family that could really sing. 73 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some of them had great voice. 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: The first guy was like belting it out to Creed 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: and he actually sounded exactly like the lead singer. I'm like, 76 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: who is Like this guy is amazing. But that's what 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: you get when you go to Nashville. 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I feel like everywhere you turn there's like 79 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: someone with an amazing voice. 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean we were walking past you know, we got 81 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: there early. We got there at like seven thirty am, 82 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: and we were walking past bars and like nine am 83 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: there's like live music going on and you hear it 84 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: and like you're like, wow, this person could definitely be 85 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: on the radio. 86 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know. It's crazy many times people and we 87 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: have the pleasure of hanging out with them and Raven. 88 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 89 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: So Big Bachelor Nation weekend, All. 90 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Right, should we get into it? 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it. 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: The recap. 93 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: All right, let's start with Golden Bachelor Woman. Tell all, So, 94 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: the first thing I noted was I feel like whenever 95 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: they introduce all the ladies or all the guys at 96 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: these hell alls, you get the classical like smile or 97 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: like maybe a little wave. I feel like all the 98 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: women were going ham on their intros, like they were 99 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: calling their name. They were like blowing kisses, they were waving. 100 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Their arms, especially April. April loves April stood up. April 101 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: loves the spotlight. 102 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she doesn't shy away from attention. We had 103 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: Matt James's mom there, Patty made an appearance. It was 104 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: great to see her again. She went home early on 105 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: the season, so she looked great. And I feel like 106 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: the beginning was kind of just lots of pleasantries catching 107 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: up Jesse Palmers, like easing them into what's to come. 108 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: And the first kind of piece of drama we see 109 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: go down or part of the recap was the Kathy 110 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: drama with Teresa, which was really like the only drama 111 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: of the whole season. 112 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: There was only a drama, and they addressed it at 113 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: the front of the show. And I think she's basically 114 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: just like, you know, I liked it. She's just like 115 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: I could have I could have handled the situation better. Yeah, 116 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: you know a little softer. I was probably too aggressive. 117 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: I could have zipped it as well. 118 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was a good way to put it. 119 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: She was like, I could have been more delicate. We 120 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: both could have zipped it. She I liked that you 121 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: kind of stood her ground, but also said like she 122 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: could have done things differently. And she just said, like, 123 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: I truly only wish everyone the best. I think Teresa 124 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: knows that too. It is hard addressing the drama to 125 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: tell I was when the. 126 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: Other person isn't there exactly and Teresa was. And yeah, 127 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Teresa wasn't there. So I feel like what Kathy said 128 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: was perfect. You can't expect her to say or do more, 129 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: and she didn't try to put any of the blame 130 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: on Teresa. Yeah, and I guess if Teresa was there 131 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: would have probably been a lengthier conversation. But if I 132 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the guests, I would say they're probably both good. 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think so too. It didn't seem like 134 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: anything super serious, and I'm sure they both moved on. 135 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: The next little piece of drama we get into is 136 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: the guacamole versus meatball debate. 137 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: I laughed when the Susans said, I've been eating meatballs 138 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: for sixty six years. 139 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: I think I think's thirty six years, sixty sixties. 140 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sixty six, yeah, or maybe it was 141 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: sixty three, but whatever, whatever the case was, it was 142 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: in the sixties. But I was just like, that's going 143 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: to be a meme. Someone's going that's gonna be a 144 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: clip for sure. 145 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. That was so funny. And then 146 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: it was Edith like, it's not my guacamole, and Susan's like, 147 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: it's not my meatballs, but it's definitely guacamole. 148 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Well, Susan's like, yeah, it's the guacamole. She's like, She's 149 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: like I was eating it for lunch. Well then yeah, 150 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: if you ate the meatballs for breakfast luncheon, then it'd 151 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: be the meat balls too. Like if you're you're. 152 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: You're just showing down a raw onions and garlic all day, 153 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: Like there's gonna be some issues. Yeah. So, I honestly 154 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: could not have expected this much bathroom humor in any episode. 155 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: I feel like, between Paradise with Sam and now the 156 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: meatball gualk debate, we're really venturing into new territory. 157 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess, yeah, I forgot about the Sam 158 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: and they do mention in this episode we'll break that 159 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: down the Paradise recap, but she did, oh, we'll just 160 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: do it here. Sam did go to the bathroom, so. 161 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I know, which I was like, thanks for the update, 162 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: but I wanted like more, did you have to have 163 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: like that surgery that they retire? I should go to 164 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: the hospital, Like, I guess that's really none of my business. 165 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: I actually don't know if I want to know that. 166 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: I'll let her keep that private. But so the theme 167 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: kind of feels like it's like really hope. Jesse Palmer says, 168 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: like that's a big word they used to describe this season. 169 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: The women are kind of just this representation of their 170 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: generation and how they still have so much life to 171 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 2: live and they still want to find love. 172 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think what should we first is Joan? Right, 173 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: Joan gets the first hot seat. 174 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're missing something super important. What Chris Jenner? 175 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Oh, Chris Jenner. Yeah, yeah, Okay, Joe. 176 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: Don't be trying to move this interview along. 177 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: You're right, You're right. I was waiting for that, Okay, yeah, 178 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Chris Jenner. So that Chris Jenner cameo and she does 179 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a little quick call out to Susan. You see how 180 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: happy Susan is. 181 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: I know Susan's so happy. 182 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's literally her idols. She's like, I really 183 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: wanted lunch. 184 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: But that is pretty Yeah. When she comes on the podcast, 185 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: we do talk to Susan about it, and I think 186 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: she's She's like, I'm glad we got the video, but 187 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: I won't want lunch. I still want lunch. But I 188 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: feel like that is kind of a big deal. Like 189 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: the Kardashians are huge, Chris Jenner's huge. To have her 190 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: like send in a video and talk about how much 191 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: she loves the show, Like that's got to be so 192 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: exciting for the women sitting there being like, oh my gosh, Like. 193 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, she called them all an inspiration and her family's 194 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: chairing for them, so yeah. Helps Christian her I don't know, 195 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: like sixty something, probably in her sixties. 196 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: Man, maybe if she's single at any point, she could 197 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: be the next Golden Bauchlorette. That'd be unreal. Chris Janner age, 198 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: let's say sixty eight. If she's sixty eight, yeah, that's crazy. Okay, 199 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: moving on to the first hot seat, we have Joan, 200 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: and Joan opens up about why she left the show. 201 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: Her daughter had a really serious case of postpartum depression 202 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: and she just her and her husband were doing the 203 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: best they could to get her help and they just 204 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: they needed support. 205 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I feel like Joan articulated herself 206 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: very well. 207 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: She did. She was a hot very well spoken in 208 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: her hot seat. I really enjoyed listening to her. 209 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: If there's a Golden Bachelorette, I would say Joan is 210 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: high on the list. 211 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: For it, definitely. I would actually, especially after her hot Seat, 212 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: would really like to see her as the Golden Bachelorette. 213 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know, like for for me, I think 214 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: I think she would still be there. 215 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: I think so too, I really do. 216 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: I think Gary really liked her, and I think that 217 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: was the beginning. 218 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: But like, and Jesse asked her that, he said, do 219 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: you think you would have you'd potentially still be there, Yeah, 220 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: if this didn't happen, And she was like, I think 221 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: we had a really great chance, and she said that 222 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: she like held out hope for him for a little while. 223 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, like waiting for him to maybe knock on her door. 224 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: Which like is fair. I feel like that's like a 225 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: relatable thing of like like maybe he'll come back around, 226 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: maybe he's still thinking about me. I thought there was 227 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: a chance that she came back in the season, you 228 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I thought there was a 229 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: chance she goes home, helps her daughter, everything gets settled, 230 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: and she like comes back to try to rejoin. 231 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I thought that too. Yeah, I 232 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: kind of thought that too. Yeah, I don't know, I 233 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: don't I don't think. I think her getting a hot 234 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: seat is a pretty good sign that she's at least 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: up for consideration to be the Golden Bachelorette. 236 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: I think so too. And she talked a lot about 237 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: just like having Gary like feeling seen, and she actually 238 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: says something I don't think it got shown, but she 239 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: talked about like how like she's at the point of 240 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: her life where like she's still taking care of her kids, 241 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: like she'll always be a mom, and she's also taken 242 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: care of her mom and just like needing to do 243 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: something selfish and like take care of herself and like 244 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: find her person. 245 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: And I also think the key is there's probably a 246 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: bunch of sixty to seventy year old men that would 247 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: go crazy over Jone. 248 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, you know that's that's what you need. All right, 249 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: next hot seat, We've got Ellen. 250 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: Ellen. Yeah, we love all love Ellen Love Ellen. I 251 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: mean honestly, after I watched it, I was like, man, 252 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: this show touching. 253 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: When we were watching this live, I was bawling my 254 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: eyes out, Remember I got was so emotional. It was, honestly, 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: And the second time we watched it again like live, 256 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. But she basically just said she saw 257 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: like an amazing life with him. She felt like a princess, 258 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: but she like can't wait to start like living her 259 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: life now, which is amazing and super inspirational. And then 260 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: she talks about her friend Roberta, which is obviously the 261 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: part that is emotional, and that she came home she 262 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: was in a semi cooma state and she was just 263 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: fighting to hold on to the premiere and Ellen basically said, 264 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: like it's okay, we'll watch it from different places, which 265 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: is just beautiful. 266 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: If anyone doesn't If anyone doesn't know, Roberta is Alan 267 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: was Own's best friend and she was the one that 268 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: like basically pushed her to go on the show. She's 269 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: a big Bachelor fan, and she ended up passing away 270 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: from cancer. But you know, it's just a really sad 271 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: and touching story. And then Roberta's daughter was in the crowd. 272 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they brought it Roberta's daughter, She's there to 273 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: support her. 274 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't even look at the screen now now I'm 275 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: gonna tear up. 276 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: The part that really got me, like, the part that 277 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 2: took me from crying to like ugly saw was when 278 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: her daughter said, thank you for showing us what true 279 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: friendship looks like. Oh my god, I'm gonna get choked 280 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: up again. It was literally just like she's standing there. 281 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: She did such a good job of just being like, 282 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: thank you for being there for my family, for my mom, 283 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: for everyone, And it was just seeing like her, like 284 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: I can't imagine standing there, seeing your best friend's daughter. Yeah, 285 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: and the connection that they feel to one another after 286 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: what they went through. It was just a really beautiful moment, 287 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: Like we've never seen anything like that on that show. 288 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: Super emotional, and you know, my heart goes out to 289 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: Ellen and Roberta's family, but very touching and very very 290 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: nice of them to share that vulnerability with the audience 291 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: because I can imagine that anyone that's lost someone or 292 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: lost a best friend. That was very touching for them 293 00:13:51,160 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: to share with her. Yeah, all right, enters Gary the 294 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor himself. 295 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: This was actually, in my opinion, the funniest clip I've 296 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: I've seen of Gary when he's when he's like, I 297 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: haven't had a heart attack yet, but oh my god, 298 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: it was so funny. 299 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: You were cracking up, Jess, like, how are you like, well, 300 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: I haven't had our attack. Cats of doing good. It 301 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: was so funny. I was not expecting that from him 302 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: at all. 303 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, because it was dry. It was a very funny. 304 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: Lie. 305 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: It's like I forgot how he said, how he phrased it, 306 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: but the. 307 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: Way he delivered it was hilarious. 308 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: It's like, but we're on the right trajectory or something. Yeah, 309 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: very very funny. 310 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was basically just like a big love 311 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: fast like Gary loves the women, the women love Gary. 312 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: Nothing we haven't seen before at a tell all, Joan 313 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: and Gary share a little moment that she's you know, 314 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: working to find her person now. Uh and Ellen, you know, 315 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: thanks Gary for improving her confidence herself of steam. Sounds 316 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: like this journey was like there was a lot of 317 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: growth for Ellen in terms of her self confidence and 318 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: what she sees in herself and what she feels like 319 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: she deserves has changed a lot. 320 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Allen just strikes me. She's also like a very 321 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: vibrant and she is a very positive person, which definitely 322 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: works in her favor. 323 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: So then the big moment of the episode, the rose ceremony. 324 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: I actually couldn't believe they left us on a cliffhanger 325 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: for this rose ceremony, and I'm so glad that they 326 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: wrapped it at the tell. All I thought it was. 327 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Is more shocking to me because. 328 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: Okay, well I guess I couldn't believe it, but I 329 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: was just mad about it, like, I don't that's such 330 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: like that's probably the biggest rose ceremony of the season. Yeah, 331 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people were expecting Teresa 332 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: to go home because he had said I love you 333 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: to Faith in front of her family. He had said 334 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: I love Utilez and he didn't say it to Teresa. 335 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: If anything, he had kind of like a weird response 336 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: when he was asked about it, he was like, I 337 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: don't know, guess we'll see. So I think a lot 338 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: of people were feeling like Teresa was going to go home. 339 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't as shocked because I did feel like 340 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: when he was sitting around with the family and he 341 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: said it to Faith, I feel like he felt pressured 342 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: and that's why he did it, and that's why I 343 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: was in shock. 344 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: I think he was in love with Faith, though in 345 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: a way I. 346 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Think he was, but I don't. 347 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: I think you don't think it came like organically. 348 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it came organically. And I think he 349 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: probably left that date and when he was debating on 350 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: who to send home, may have looked back at that 351 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: moment and thought had to really think, like is that 352 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: truly how I felt in the moment? Or did I, you. 353 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: Know, get caught up? 354 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 355 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: You know what I want to know that I feel 356 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: like hasn't been addressed that much or we just haven't 357 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: seen very much, is how much people's like location and 358 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: willingness to move and lifestyle is playing a role into 359 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Gary's decision making, Like is he gonna move? Is he 360 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: willing to move? Is he looking for someone else that's 361 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: willing to move? Because like Faith lives. 362 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: In a super rule well shelves across the shelves across 363 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: the country, across the country. 364 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: So like, I don't know, I'm just I'm curious about that. 365 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: I would like to ask Gary about that. Yeah, but 366 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 2: Faith is super emotional watching it. She's like balling her 367 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: eyes out. Then they bring out Gary and then they're 368 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: both balling their eyes out. 369 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's it's. 370 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: Intense, like super heavy, lots of tension. 371 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: And Faith too, like she's opened up now about like 372 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: really never like almost like not believing in love, like 373 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: never like falling in love. It was, yeah, it was 374 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: if it was hard. I really like you really felt 375 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: for her, and you could see like his genuine reaction 376 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: of just like he just felt so bad. Yeah, and 377 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: he said like I felt bad because I misled your family, 378 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: and I liked the Faith is like no one holds 379 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: a grudge against you, Like. 380 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he really that was definitely really weighing on him, 381 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: the fact that he's like I promised your family that 382 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: I would protect your heart and I didn't. But she 383 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: like gives him forgiveness for that, which I thought was 384 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: really kind. 385 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: But it was also it's they're just very there, you know, 386 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: she's very mature. That's that's a nice thing about the 387 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: show is most of pretty much all the women and 388 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: Gary are all pretty emotionally mature, so like they do 389 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: get it. Like I think Faith like as sad as 390 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: she was also put herself in gary shoes and realize 391 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: like it is it's he that's hard, He's in a 392 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: hard spot. 393 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, there was a lot of understanding. I feel 394 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: like the biggest thing for them, especially with like how 395 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: emotional they were, was when she got sent home. She 396 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: was in shock and he seemed like he was kind 397 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: of in shock about the whole thing too, and she 398 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: described like it was like getting sent home by a stranger, 399 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: like you weren't even there, like we weren't even connected, 400 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: and I couldn't believe that it had happened. So I 401 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 2: think this was really like the closure for them that 402 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: they were both looking for. And she was able to say, like, 403 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: you know, I fell in love with you. I felt 404 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: very safe with you. So yeah, there was a lot 405 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 2: of like tough moments, but also they were very complimentary 406 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: of each other as well, and like a lot of 407 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: respect for the relationship that was had. I just love Faith, 408 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: I just do. I love her. Well, I'm so sad. 409 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: I'm so sad that to see her go. I really am. 410 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: We'll stay tuned because we will have faith on and 411 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: you'll hear her response because we ask a little more 412 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: how she feels about how everything went down with her 413 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: and Gary, and we'll talk to Gary about it as well. 414 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: We do, and then closing out the episode, we got bloopers. 415 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: Shocked that there was bloopers too. 416 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: I was not that there's bluepers show, and I don't 417 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: appreciate that insult. 418 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the bluepers. I think that the number one thing 419 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: that stuck out in the blue person and we'll stick 420 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: off for everyone. 421 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Sondra. Yeah, yeah, poor thing. 422 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: Sandra's fart lasted a long long time. It really doesn't all. 423 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 2: The ways you could have described that blooper, that's what 424 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 2: you went with. 425 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's that. I feel like that's what's 426 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: going to resonate. 427 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: With all all thee watching by play. 428 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: It was so long, and I think she even says, 429 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: i'll give a little teaser to her interview. I believe 430 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: she tells us that it goes on for much longer. 431 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, but I think they like caught. I 432 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: think they like cut it or didn't start from the beginning. 433 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: It was like too long for the whole bloo for real. 434 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: For Sodra, it's probably all that ice cream that she 435 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: ate during the never Have I Ever Gained? 436 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, it's rough, rough, all right, that wraps, That 437 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: wraps Golden, That. 438 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: Wraps gold and now ontoice. 439 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: A little bit of a strange, A little bit of 440 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: a strange episode. 441 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Not some really good points in this episode, but overall, 442 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: I felt like there was some loose ends that weren't 443 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: tied up or just I was left with some questions 444 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: still on things that were cliffhangers in last week's episode 445 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: that didn't really give full closure in this week. 446 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 447 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: So, but we have Sam Pea coming on this week, 448 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: so I think that she's going to be able to 449 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: answer a lot of our questions. 450 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could ask her because I have questions. I 451 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: have a lot of questions. 452 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, just felt like a lot was going on and 453 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: I wasn't getting full clarity on every situation. 454 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess should we start at the beginning? 455 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into it, Okay. 456 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: I think that the beginning really is like Aaron b Eliza, Charity. 457 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: Aaron be ends up talking to Charity. I think he 458 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: feels good after that conversation. 459 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Charity gives some great advice to Eliza, great advice 460 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: to Aar and b I think a crucial piece of 461 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: information was that this girl reached out to Charity, Charity's friends, 462 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: Charity's family, yeah, not Aaron B. And it just kind 463 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: of that behavior, in my opinion, discredits her a little bit. 464 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: Like it does I agree. 465 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: The one thing I took away from all this because 466 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: you guys all, if you're listening, most likely watched. I 467 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: don't know, well, I can't read Eliza. I don't know 468 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: if she's it almost seems like it almost seems like 469 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: she's not that into him. 470 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: I can't read her either, right, And I if I 471 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: were to do my best guess, I don't think she's 472 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: that into Aaron B. 473 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: That's what it seems. 474 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: It seems like he's more into her in this episode 475 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: than she's into him. 476 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's almost like now she's like or it feels. 477 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: Like like something else has happened in the relationship, like it's 478 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: been rockier than what they we've seen, Like the way 479 00:22:54,119 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: she's acting. It's like he says, he like, I don't know, oh, 480 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: it's just weird. Like he says he's committed to her, right, 481 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm really committed to you. I'm in I'm 482 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: all in on you, and she's kind of like, I'm unsure, 483 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, what do you mean you're unsure? Like, 484 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: is it just this? Is it something else? I? 485 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's why I can't. 486 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I can't, Like I said, I don't know, I can't 487 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: get a read on her. It doesn't seem like she's 488 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: that into him. It seems like when everything lines up 489 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: in her favor or everything lines up for like the 490 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: relationship to work, it seems like that's when she takes 491 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: a step back. 492 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like that's kind of what she did 493 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: last season two, Like when everything's going smoothly, she kind 494 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: of yeah, it takes a step back. 495 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I like, I don't, I don't 496 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen there. 497 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: I noted. 498 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: I personally think the only strong couple now at this 499 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: point is Kylie and even like the only strong couple, Like, 500 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyone else even close now. 501 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: The only people that would be close would be Aaron 502 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: b and Alive. But after that conversation and her not 503 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: beings to fully commit to him, I'm like, well, what 504 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: does that mean? Do you want to explore your options? 505 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: Do you not know if you're that into him? 506 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: And we talked about last episode and she said, or 507 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: when one of them said, like, well, we haven't talked 508 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: all day. What the fuck have you been doing? 509 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Where have you been? Where have you been? All 510 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: we did was I hung out with you all day 511 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: every day for the most part, obviously, Like I come down, 512 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: you'd be having breakfast with James and Aaron, I'd get 513 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: my smoothie, we'd hang out. Then maybe I'd go swim 514 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: with Abigail. Then we'd hang out like at no point 515 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: were we in the same vicinity but not speaking for 516 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: the whole day? 517 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then okay, So then basically I would say, uh. 518 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: I'm making this a note to talk to sam Pete 519 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: when she comes on about this. 520 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do the next big thing really and kind 521 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: of bleeds into the entire episode because Olivia ends up staying. 522 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: But it's it's the triangle between Olivia, John Henry and Katz. 523 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really the biggest love try and go 524 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: probably of the season. I mean, it's really gone on 525 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: for a while. 526 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: Like how do we feel about this? Like I personally, actually, 527 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: this is the first time I've seen chemistry between John 528 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Henry and Cat in the in the hot tub. 529 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're jumping ahead a little bit, but yeah. 530 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: I know. I'm just saying, let's just break down their 531 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: whole situation at once right now, instead of like. 532 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you don't want to go chronologically? 533 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: No, is that gonna throw you off? 534 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: I mean, like, like I'm a chronological girl, Like I 535 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: don't even tell a story about my day out of order? 536 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so okay, so John Henry and. 537 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: Kat, Okay, I want to make a note about the 538 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: situation quickly. So John Henry poll's Cat. Okay, he says, 539 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: let's go over there and talk. They're talking in the water, 540 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 2: Olivia Tanner, Peter and who else? Was it? Eliza? I think, yeah, 541 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: or like talking straight shit about Cat? How dare she? 542 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: This is so rude right in front of us. I 543 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: wanted to literally like shake them and be like, guys, 544 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: it was John Henry, it wasn't even Cat. 545 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's my biggest I feel like, that's my 546 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: biggest complaint with the way Olivia's handling all this, and 547 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: it's just like she's she's giving John Henry no credit 548 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: for being a grown up and making his own decisions 549 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: and it's just straight up like this is all going 550 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: down John Henry because Cat is manipulating the situation and 551 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: manipulating you and you're a sucker. 552 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because again has to be protected from her evil ass, 553 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: Like it's what's happening. 554 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: No, it's like John Henry is a grown ass fucking 555 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: man making his own decisions. 556 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: And if anything, he's talking to Cat too. He's clearly 557 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 2: enjoying spending time with her. He's pulling her aside too, 558 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: like he is also some she's definite the aggressor, that's 559 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: that's the wrong word. But she's more actively pursuing him, 560 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: but he's still participating. 561 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Listen, it takes two to tango and he's doing just 562 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: as much so for and I just I don't know, 563 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: I feel like that is I feel like that's Olivia 564 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: kind of trying to protect herself from getting hurt. 565 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't want to like put it on John 566 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: Henry because like she likes John Henry. Yeah, she has 567 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: feelings for him where she doesn't like Cats. It's easier 568 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: to blame her. 569 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easier to blame Kat. And she has feelings 570 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: for John Henry. And now she's realizing those feelings might 571 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: not be reciprocated and instead of you know, that's a 572 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: hard pill to swallow, so it's easier to just blame Cat, 573 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: and then her and Cat have a conversation, which again, 574 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: I I mean, I don't agree with the way I 575 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: think it Olivia. I don't have any issue with her 576 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: calling Kat out and having the conversation, but it's just like, 577 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: you call her out, you have the conversation, but then 578 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 1: you won't hear out. You put your hand on your 579 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: her face and you walk away. 580 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, in my opinion, if you want to call someone out, 581 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: you have to be willing to at least listen to 582 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: their response, Like you can't go over there. Kat stood 583 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: and she listened to what she had to say, and 584 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: then when Kat started to speak back, Olivia didn't like 585 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: what she was hearing and she walked away. And it's 586 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: kind of like, look, if you want her to hear 587 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: you out, like you can't. It can't just be one side. 588 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: It can't be like, hey, I'm here to just like 589 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: tell you what I think and leave. Yeah, it just 590 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: that's not how a conversation works. 591 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like Olivia is struggling 592 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: because she's she's just she's hurt. 593 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel for Olivia too, like I do. At 594 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: the end of the day, she clearly actually, like genuinely 595 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: cares about this guy. She's excited about the relationship. She's like, 596 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: she's committed to it, she wants it to go somewhere, 597 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: and he's now flip flopping to someone else and this 598 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: girl is someone that she doesn't even really like, Like 599 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: that sucks. It sucks. She's hurt, Like I can't. You 600 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: can't blame the girl for being hurt. But I think 601 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: she's lashing out a little bit at Cat because she's hurt. 602 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think kind of think it's easy 603 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: to lash out at Cat because I think there's a 604 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: lot of people that talk a lot of shit about 605 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: her and basically our painting Cat to be like the 606 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: worst person on the beach. Yeah, so I think that's 607 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: just the easy play. Yeah, okay, so then we just 608 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: let's just go to the we go to a cocktail party. 609 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 1: You know. The big thing is Becca leaves, so then 610 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: it kind of leaves Brandon to where whereas his role 611 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: is gonna go. We don't like, we're left on the 612 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: fact that we don't really even know if Braden and 613 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Rachel had another conversation. Clearly they they didn't, So that's strange. 614 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: We never touch on the fact that justin Tyler me. 615 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I thought you were going to totally skip 616 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: over that because you're now at throw ceremony. 617 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: No, I'm like, just you know again, I'm going on 618 00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: in chronology. 619 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just gonna lead into that situation. 620 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, but Blake and jefs are kind of 621 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: back on. 622 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: So I have serious questions about this, and I'm definitely 623 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: asking Sampia about it because I'm hoping she has the answers. 624 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: We are left on a cliffhanger. Last week, Jess is 625 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: making out with Tyler Mercedes Know Where to be found. 626 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: Blake on a date with Jen. They're making out too. 627 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: He seems super into her. We come back this week, 628 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: Tyler's back with Mercedes. Don't know what happened there, don't 629 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: know if she knows about the kiss. Don't know, like 630 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: if what happened with if Tyler and Jess decided they 631 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: weren't compatible. Jen, I don't think knows what's going on. 632 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: Blake and Jess have a combo. They're super into each 633 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: other and back together, but like I don't really feel 634 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: it from Jess. 635 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: Still, it sucks, honestly, it sucks when you're somebody like 636 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: Genevieve who goes on a date and the date goes 637 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: well and then you basically are like no at the 638 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, because once it's at the cocktail party, it's 639 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: like kind of like too late. And then Blake goes 640 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: back with Jess and then she's there's really not much she. 641 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: Could do, and she probably all did has been like 642 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: thinking maybe like I don't know if he said something 643 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: on the date, but she's probably thinking like, oh yeah, 644 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: I like there's a good chance I get his rose. 645 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: I just went on a great date with him, and 646 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it's like nope. 647 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: And then Davia and Tanner don't have no idea what 648 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: happened there. Tanner has a strong relationship with Kat leaves 649 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: cat for Davia. It seems like they have a great date, 650 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: they hit it off, and yet now Tanner is gonna 651 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: give his rose to Rachel and him and Davia don't 652 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: even like have a conversation. 653 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm so confused, Like they had a conversation. 654 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: I think it went well. 655 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: It dude, they made out. He was like it was 656 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: the most passionate makeout of my life. Very confusing, so confusing, honestly, 657 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: Like Brandon was saying that Kat was homie hopping, we 658 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: definitely got Tanner homie hopping. Now, like he's all over 659 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: the beach. I just need to know what happened with 660 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: him and Davia, Like I'm so confused. 661 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm very very confused. 662 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: He's like playing Bachelor of Paradise. Like he's talking to Jen, 663 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: he's talking to Daviy, he's talking to Rachel. 664 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: Well that's what even when they said like he's he's 665 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: the Bachelor in Paradise right now, I'm like, what happened? Well, yeah, 666 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: what what happened to Davy? I thought that went well? 667 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: Like that was I don't know, that was very another one, 668 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: like I said, don't really understand it. Okay. So then 669 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: the biggest thing at the role ceremony, though, is Braden 670 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: ends up giving his rose to Olivia, so Olivia stays. 671 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: So now that drama continue on continues onto the next morning. 672 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: John Henry calls out Olivia and basically says, I feel 673 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: bad and I'm sorry the way I handled it. 674 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: I thought he was really like caring and respectful and. 675 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: He seemed pretty genuine. She's like. 676 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: He did seem genuine. No, I actually felt I think 677 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: he did. 678 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: In Olivia's response was, Oh, this is you wanting to 679 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: clear your conscience, which I don't know. I think that's 680 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of I think that's a bullshit. I don't agree 681 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: with that response because it's like here he is apologizing 682 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: you made I mean, so at the end of the day, 683 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: she just doesn't accept his apology. 684 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean she ends up complimenting him and just saying 685 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: that he's like a stand up guy and then kind 686 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: of like shits on cat. 687 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: And that's her whole thing is he's a good guy, 688 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: but you're just a It's basically like you're a good guy, 689 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: but you. 690 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: You're getting manipulated for yourself. 691 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: You can't think for yourself. 692 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it really comes down to the 693 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: fact that he just has better chemistry and a better connection. 694 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: Like I agree with what you said earlier, like their 695 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: conversation in the hot tub where John Henry is saying 696 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: like he's excited and he's interested and like that, like 697 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: there was a lot of chemistry between them. Yeah, and 698 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: I think Olivia really everything that she's done this episode 699 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: just boils down to the fact that she like John 700 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 2: Henry and she's really hurt. Yeah, and she's trying to 701 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: protect herself and her feelings. 702 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: And I feel like Olivia also went from a situation 703 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: where she allowed herself to get hurt right at the 704 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: jump with Will with Will and then took it slow 705 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: with John Henry and then gets hurt again. Yeah, so 706 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: it's like a rough situation. But I yeah, I don't know. 707 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: So then Michael A from Charity season comes down. 708 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: Michael A. Yeah, is it Michael A? Michael? 709 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: It might just be Michael. 710 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: Michael A is from a different season. 711 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: Yea, just Michael comes down from Charity season. I remember 712 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: him because he's from Chicago. He talks to Olivia and 713 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: then he grabs two girls that basically both have boyfriends and. 714 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: Kyleie and Mercedes, and Mercedes also shout out to Mercedes 715 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: her hair looks insane in this whole episode. I actually 716 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: I complimented and ask her about her hair when we 717 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 2: first interviewed her, and I need to ask her again 718 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: now she looks so good like. 719 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: And then she he also grabs sam Pee, so we're 720 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: basically left on a cliffhanger. Olivia really wants the date. 721 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: Everybody on the beach really wants Olivia to go on 722 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: the date. So we hope Olivia does get this date 723 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: because it would be nice if she did get a 724 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: happy end thing. 725 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: Because she hope. She's the only person that's like not 726 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: long down on the beach right now. 727 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like she has like a lot 728 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: of like I don't agree with the way she's handling 729 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: a lot of this, but at the end of the day, 730 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: she's been through a lot on the beach, So it 731 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: would be nice if she got a connection and they 732 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: I think it. 733 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 2: Would just make it easier for everyone. Like John, Henry 734 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: and Kat seem like really locked in on each other 735 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 2: actually at this point, like there's a lot of clips 736 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: of them like cuddling and eating breakfast together, and I 737 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: think it's will be easier for both of them and 738 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: for Olivia if she is paired up with someone that 739 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: she really likes as well. 740 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: I was actually shocked because I actually though operated it 741 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: was just going to leave and not give his roles. 742 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 2: See, I thought he was going to give it to Rachel, 743 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 2: but then Tanner gave it to Rachel. That's another thing 744 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: we don't really know what's going on with Braiden and. 745 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Rachel the Okay, so we will We will end this 746 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: recap on saying confused about Tyler, Jess Blake, Genevieve, confused 747 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: about Tanner, Rachel, braid and Sich. I wish we had 748 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: more answers to what went down there. Okay. I think 749 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: that that wraps the recap and I feel like we 750 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: are good to go. Thank you everyone for listening. Make 751 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: sure you stay tuned. This week we have Sampion. We 752 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: are going to ask her all these questions. Maybe she 753 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: could fill in some of the gaps for us. She 754 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: seems to be one of the go to narrators on 755 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: the show. 756 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's doing a lot. She's really like making TV 757 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: out there like she did the Truth or Dare thing. 758 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: She's got the good interview, she's asking the good questions, 759 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: so it'll be a good chat. 760 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: Yep. And then we have the women from Golden Bacher. 761 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: You won't want to miss that, and make sure you subscribe. 762 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: Bye bye.