WEBVTT - The Knicks are breaking down, Nuggets bounce back in a big way

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of The check Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Have we had some momentum shifts in the last I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know a week in three of the four second

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<v Speaker 2>round series over the weekend, we gotta get you all

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<v Speaker 2>caught up. And then we've got not one but two

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<v Speaker 2>dope as interviews. The first with Brennan Glasheen WNBA Insider

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<v Speaker 2>covers the Connecticut Sun. He's helping us break down the

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<v Speaker 2>opening the WNBA series because that's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>The future of the league is right now, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>make sense of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a lot to cover.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have Kurt Helen, who is an NBA writer

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<v Speaker 2>for NBC as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not waste any time, Anthony. Let's drop that motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>be that should be Rihanna.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, let's start in Indiana. Pacers have officially feared

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<v Speaker 2>God in the New York Next oh Man, after losing

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<v Speaker 2>Games one and two, going down oh to Rick Carlisle's

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<v Speaker 2>losing his goddamn mind. He's filing grievances with the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>League office.

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<v Speaker 1>They got uh big boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Pants on and absolutely put a hurt on the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>in India on Sunday afternoon, it was like never close

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<v Speaker 2>never close. They won by thirty two, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>even worse at times than that. And this game, more

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<v Speaker 2>than probably any other, has revealed what we already kind

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<v Speaker 2>of knew, which is like maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>The Knicks playing too many damn minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a five man rotation in the NBA playoffs is

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<v Speaker 2>two or.

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<v Speaker 1>Three men shy of what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even injuries folks like og Andobi is probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna miss Game four.

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<v Speaker 1>In game five, but like folks, the Knicks look gast.

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<v Speaker 2>They shot thirty four percent from the field, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is with Alec Brooks emerging from the crypt to give

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<v Speaker 2>him twenty points. Most of the shots were front of

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<v Speaker 2>the iron bricks, tired ass legs. No wonder Josh Hart

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't missed a minute in what seems like ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>consecutive games. No Knick starter was better than a negative

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven. Dante DiVincenzo aka Dante's Inferno went Dante ice cold,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was an incredible negative forty negative forty plus minus.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pacers, on the other hand, had eight players that

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<v Speaker 2>were plus sixteen or above, including seven players that were

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<v Speaker 2>a plus twenty one or higher. And now what seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like an easy cruise to the Eastern Conference Finals to

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<v Speaker 2>meet up with the Boston Celtics. Now hangs by a

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<v Speaker 2>thread because Tibbs is like, yo, I'm not giving you

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<v Speaker 2>a blow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you want to blow, go get some cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck off. Pause.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, if the Pacers ran the Knicks out of the

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<v Speaker 2>gym in Game five, I wouldn't be shocked, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it was in the garden. Game five is probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be the biggest game of the season out in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>though the narrative it's changed. After getting blown out on

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<v Speaker 2>their home court twice, the Wolves go back to Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>they got their swag.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Edwards thinks that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be an easy street no problem. If you

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<v Speaker 2>were to ask Anthony Edwards, they probably thought they were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna sweep Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they get marked in game three, Okay, no problem,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. Like you lose one at home, but you

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<v Speaker 2>got to.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Rose. Fine, we still got multiple games of

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<v Speaker 1>home court advantished. And just take take came four.

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<v Speaker 2>Just take came four, Anthony, and just like, let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Denver and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know three to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody told Theyaron Gordon and Jamal Murray or even Nikole Jokis,

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<v Speaker 2>especially not nikol Jokic, who decided they would to show

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<v Speaker 2>the world they like, we were actually unbeatable when we

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<v Speaker 2>want to be uh three times three times, three time MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was incredible. Thirty five points.

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<v Speaker 2>Nuggs shot fifty seven percent from the field, forty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent from three against the best defense in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Gordon at one point in the game was ten for ten,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five points, eleven for twelve, Jokic fifteen for twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five, seven and seven, and in the second half,

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<v Speaker 2>Jamal Murray was like, I didn't even know there was

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<v Speaker 2>anything wrong with him. He was unstoppable, wet splash, bang boom. Edwards,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just Edwards, It was just Dan. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just the ant Man show. He carried the Wolves forty

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<v Speaker 2>four five and five three stocks. And Karl Anthony Towns

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<v Speaker 2>was of course just like turned back into a pumpkin.

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<v Speaker 1>He is in fouled trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>He's whining at the refs, he's missing free throws, he's

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<v Speaker 2>missing shots.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, five for eighteen, he was ooh, Nikaile, Alexander Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the guy that we thought maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>The Portland Trailblazers and the LA Lakers just whiffed on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he went back to being one for seven.

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<v Speaker 2>So he can't win when your role players don't do

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<v Speaker 2>a goddamn thing. Ask Denver in games one and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the series is tied, heading back to Denver where

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<v Speaker 2>the Wolves need to figure it out fast. Ear'll be

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<v Speaker 2>curtains as my friend who's a Minnesota Timberwolves fan said,

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<v Speaker 2>this basketball game's pretty dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like the sport right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that after games of four and three, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you where his head is at the third series, though,

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<v Speaker 2>that took a dramatic turn, is now Okase in Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>were after game one, everybody was ready to crown the

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<v Speaker 2>thunder King and say that the Dallas Mavericks was a

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<v Speaker 2>big time, big fat disappoint Nobody told PJ Washington, though,

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<v Speaker 2>because he went ballistic in games two and three, averaging

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<v Speaker 2>he averaged twenty eight points, nine rebounds, five assists, three

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<v Speaker 2>steals and blocks per game. Excuse me, PJ. Washington, where

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<v Speaker 2>have you been hiding? Then you add in Luca, then

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<v Speaker 2>you add in Kyrie and all of a sudden, the

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder are down two to one and they're looking for answers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who's got answers, The Thunder play by play guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what he thinks. He thinks that the Thunder

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<v Speaker 2>are getting mugged. And the Dallas Mavericks you can fucking

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<v Speaker 2>touch them, but they are still getting outscored.

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<v Speaker 1>Now played in the third quarter and it is costing them.

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<v Speaker 2>The series has shown a few things. The Thunder are athletic,

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<v Speaker 2>they are exciting. They are missing a few things though,

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<v Speaker 2>some backup height and some backup rim protection.

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<v Speaker 1>You always need backup protection. Pause.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the other two series, this one could easily go seven, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be so remember we're like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>so boring.

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<v Speaker 1>The second round is the worst. No, actually it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the Boston series. It's the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>As per usual, they are dominant. About the only place

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<v Speaker 2>where things are going to plan, like I said, is Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>They hold a two to one lead over the Calves.

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<v Speaker 2>Now go back play Game four without Jared Allen, who

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't played at all in this series, and maybe, just

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even Donovan Mitchell, who's questionable with a calf or

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<v Speaker 2>a thigh string. The Celtics won Game three, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>because the Boston Celtics always play with their food in

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<v Speaker 2>Game two and they wouldn't get the Celtics come back

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<v Speaker 2>Game three one oh six ninety three put them on

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<v Speaker 2>their shoulders. Evan Mobley even though he uh even though

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<v Speaker 2>the Cavaliers lost, Evan Mobley was excellent seventeen to eight

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<v Speaker 2>and one thirty three from Spider. Spider just can't get

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five or forty kenny. If you want to bet

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<v Speaker 2>on Spider, bet him on like thirty one and a

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<v Speaker 2>half points. Just not remotely enough. Though, Tatum and Brown

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<v Speaker 2>returned to being excellent. Tatum had his best game of

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. Boston shot fifty one percent from the field.

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<v Speaker 2>All start at five starters were plus eight or better.

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<v Speaker 2>So with the healthy, fully fully healthy, him and the

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<v Speaker 2>Cavs probably could extend this to six. But with a

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<v Speaker 2>banged up Mitchell, I do not think so. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's night night, sleep mask, see you later, goodbye, lick

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<v Speaker 2>your wounds and start to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving forwards.

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<v Speaker 2>The other news of the week is that we had

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA lottery on Mother's Day on a Sunday without

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<v Speaker 2>anything going on, and if without Twitter, you probably didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what happened three o'clock. What an awful decision

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<v Speaker 2>by the week. If you're a fan of the Detroit Pistons,

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<v Speaker 2>it was also awful for you. For the third straight

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<v Speaker 2>year in a row, who had the worst record in basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and for the third year in a row, ended up

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<v Speaker 2>with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Number fifth pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a fan of Jesus and you live in Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>are you questioning your religion because God must hate you,

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<v Speaker 2>God must hate the Pistons. Do you know who got

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<v Speaker 2>the number one pick this year? If you probably have

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<v Speaker 2>not been on Twitter, then this is all news to you.

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<v Speaker 2>The Atlanta fucking Hawks, the team that was in the

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<v Speaker 2>play in Tournament. Yeah, the same Hawks that made the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking play in Tournament, The same Hawks who won thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six games even though they missed Trey Young for two months.

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<v Speaker 2>The same Atlanta that was looking to trade Clint Capella,

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<v Speaker 2>de Jean de Murray and maybe even Trey Young. They

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<v Speaker 2>are now getting bailed out by the chance to get

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Saar. Those same Hawks who had a three percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance three snagging the first pick. They get the first pick,

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth longest odds in history for any team getting

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth first prick pick overall, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>a mediocre draft, a draft that we thought would have absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero fanfare, now has a lot of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hawks have a huge decision to make. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>keep the first pick and take Alex Saar or do

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<v Speaker 2>you trade it? Maybe you trade Trey Young as well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you rebuilt. The draft order is now as follows,

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<v Speaker 2>number one, the Atlanta Hawks, number two, the Washington Wizards

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<v Speaker 2>number three, the Houston Rockets, who are interested in selling

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<v Speaker 2>or trading that pick, The Spurs at four, the Pistons

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<v Speaker 2>at five, the Hornets at six, my Trailblazers at seven,

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<v Speaker 2>with the worst pick we could possibly get the Spurs

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<v Speaker 2>again at eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Grizzlies get nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Really good spot for the Grizzlies, who work pesky all year.

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<v Speaker 2>The Jazz with the tenth pick, eleven, the Bulls twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder thirteen Kings, and fourteen Trailblazers. Both the Spurs and

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<v Speaker 2>Trailblazers have not one but two lottery picks. I get

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling that this draft could get really, really interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe more interesting than other drafts. Considering that we

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea who's good, who's not, and what any

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<v Speaker 2>of these teams are gonna do. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 2>full draft show breakdown soon. But this draft, I promise you,

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be very, very spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do it. Let's get into the guests.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to welcome on our first guest, Brendan Glasheen,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the voice of the Action Network as well

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<v Speaker 2>as the voice of the main Celtics.

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<v Speaker 1>Play by play announcer for the Connecticut Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>He's here to take a little talk, a little WNBA

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<v Speaker 2>and NBA and help us get into the new season.

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan is joined on my other show bet MGM Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>which air seven to eleven Eastern Standard Time on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio in most markets, as well as live on video

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<v Speaker 2>on twitch and YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into it with Brendan.

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<v Speaker 3>Brendan glasstem joins us.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry now play by play for the main Celtics Connecticut Son.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna talk a little NBA, some WNBA. Caitlin Clark

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<v Speaker 4>had twelve points last night in a preseason game. Pretty

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<v Speaker 4>excited for that regular season to tip off. Brennan, First off,

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<v Speaker 4>did you do anything tonight with the Knicks and the Pacers.

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<v Speaker 4>Pacers were seven and a half point favorites they closed.

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<v Speaker 4>The Knicks have an eight point lead right now. Any

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts on this game so far?

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<v Speaker 5>The Knicks are feisty, right, They've got a feel. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>based in Boston. They've got a little Isaiah Thomas Bridge Celtics.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel to them, taught me.

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<v Speaker 5>Brunson is certainly stronger and has finishing ability around the rim.

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<v Speaker 5>But man, how they've handled this postseason without Randall and

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<v Speaker 5>how they've pieced it together with those Villanova kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Tips hasn't playing hards.

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<v Speaker 5>Know they could be a They could make it interesting

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<v Speaker 5>in the conference finals, I think against Boston. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>pretty incredible what Brunson's been doing. A little scare last game,

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<v Speaker 5>but came back and they're a handful, right, The Knicks

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<v Speaker 5>are a handful. They want to muck it up, make it,

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<v Speaker 5>make it difficult in the games they play in.

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<v Speaker 6>So they're a feisty.

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<v Speaker 5>Team in a conference finals birth I think gives Knicks

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<v Speaker 5>fans MSGS some life here in the in the springtime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, another team that's pretty feisty, very fun to watch,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as the Connecticut Sun. Man boy, I do

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<v Speaker 2>love watching them. What do you think about them this

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming season. I know their next game.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Fever.

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<v Speaker 2>They're five and a half point favorites there. I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel like that's a little bit of the Caitlin

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<v Speaker 2>Clark effect that that number is what it is, because

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, outside of Caitlin and Alia Boston, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a ton of talent there right now. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>they picked number one overall. Well, what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about the Sun this year overall in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>they can compete with the Aces in the liberty?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they were right there last year at Trista in

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<v Speaker 5>the Conference finals semifinals against New York and those games.

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<v Speaker 5>While it was a four game series, they kept it

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<v Speaker 5>pretty competitive. They did get one game in that series.

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<v Speaker 5>They retooled their roster a bit. They have Breonna Jones back,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a huge boost, and they changed the way

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<v Speaker 5>they played last year when she got hurt at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of June Tourer Achilles and then they became a

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<v Speaker 5>pace in space three point shooting team.

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<v Speaker 6>They lost Rebecca Allen.

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<v Speaker 5>They also lost Tiffany Hayes to retirement, but they brought

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<v Speaker 5>in Rian Jefferson, Rachel Bannham. Those are two pieces Tiffany

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<v Speaker 5>Mitchell from previously with the Indiana Fever and the Minnesota Link.

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<v Speaker 5>So and you got a list of Thomas, who is

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<v Speaker 5>the I think should have probably won MVP. I know,

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<v Speaker 5>probably biased when people think Connecticut's son broadcaster, then you

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<v Speaker 5>thought lista Thomas should have won MVP. But broke records

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<v Speaker 5>and assists triple doubles record, double double record. She reminds

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<v Speaker 5>me a lot of what we see in the NBA

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<v Speaker 5>at Russell Westbrook. Can bring the ball up the floor,

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<v Speaker 5>can also be a presence off the ball in the post,

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<v Speaker 5>and be an elite facilitator. So Indwana Bonner. The key

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<v Speaker 5>to her season is she didn't play overseas for the

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<v Speaker 5>first time in her career in a decade plus, had

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<v Speaker 5>a full offseason off, so they're expecting while she is

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<v Speaker 5>thirty six years old, they expect to Wanta Bonner to

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<v Speaker 5>still be an elite scorer in and around the rim

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<v Speaker 5>and also shoot the outside shot. So they are going

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<v Speaker 5>to be with Breonna Jones back, they are still a

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<v Speaker 5>handful and still have quite the tandem the big three

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<v Speaker 5>that you need in the front court. And then they're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna need some steps from their guard play, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think they're very much still in the picture. They've got

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<v Speaker 5>an older team, experienced team. I mentioned those pieces they

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<v Speaker 5>got in the offseason. All of those players eight to

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<v Speaker 5>ten years in the league. So Opening Night will be

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<v Speaker 5>fascinating on Tuesday. They've got some players with some chips

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<v Speaker 5>on their shoulders and they should be very much I

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<v Speaker 5>think if healthy, which is the key to the whole

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<v Speaker 5>thing for every team, they should be very much.

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<v Speaker 6>In the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about all of this scuttle butt

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<v Speaker 2>where WNBA veterans have been coming out and being a

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<v Speaker 2>little less than welcoming to this crop of WNBA rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally think it's kind of good for the game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what we see in the NBA. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I kind of I'll be honest, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>annoying at this point, like it's competition, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese go right down the list,

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<v Speaker 5>Cameron Brink. These players were all on the biggest stage

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<v Speaker 5>at the college level and they don't need I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll get into the charter flights, I'm shore, which is

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<v Speaker 5>a huge development for the league. It's gonna sound counterintuitive,

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<v Speaker 5>but they don't need protecting like Caitlin's handled every moment

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<v Speaker 5>like an absolute pro. They've had microphones sticked in their

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<v Speaker 5>faces now constantly, and for Caitlin and Angel Rees specifically

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<v Speaker 5>the last two years, going all the way to the

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<v Speaker 5>Final four and in LSU's case, to the Elite eight

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<v Speaker 5>this past year, it's to the point where I'm like

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<v Speaker 5>Diana Tarassi does this to rookies all the time. And

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<v Speaker 5>now there are new eyeballs on the w which that's important,

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<v Speaker 5>and this current draft class has a big part of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Without questioning, Kitlin Clark carries a lot of weight in that,

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<v Speaker 5>so I understand what kind of impact and gravitational she

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<v Speaker 5>has on this league. But if we're just gonna all

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<v Speaker 5>make it friendly, then where how does the league now

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<v Speaker 5>take a step where we can do a show like this,

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<v Speaker 5>We can get up and watch the mainstream media and

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<v Speaker 5>pick a part a game. If she has a great game,

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<v Speaker 5>if she has a bad game. You want it to

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<v Speaker 5>be like normal sports talk debate. If someone was bad,

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<v Speaker 5>you get on them. If they were great, you give

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<v Speaker 5>them their flowers. That's the step, and I think we

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<v Speaker 5>have to have that same standard now with the WNBA

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<v Speaker 5>with more eyeballs on the league with a TV deal

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<v Speaker 5>down the line with we'd think I would like to

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<v Speaker 5>think healthier players better competition with these chartered flights. We

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<v Speaker 5>have to hold them to that same standard, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think Caitlin Clark is up for that. She's passed all

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<v Speaker 5>those tests to this point. So the tarasseis the Brianda Stewarts.

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<v Speaker 5>Sue Byrd was kind of in the thick of it too,

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<v Speaker 5>Like Christy Sides, who is the head coach of the

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<v Speaker 5>Indiana Fever, as you called out Trista, they've got a

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<v Speaker 5>younger team. Melissa Smith, Kelsey Mitchell's from other those of

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<v Speaker 5>some of those other supporting cast players. Like they called

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<v Speaker 5>out Caitlin the other day. I thought she had a

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<v Speaker 5>great game in her second preseason game. But like there's

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<v Speaker 5>also she's gonna have some learning curves to the pro

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<v Speaker 5>game because she's playing with other elite players and no

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<v Speaker 5>one's ever heard of them before. And I understand that

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<v Speaker 5>because the league hasn't had this kind of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kelsey Mitchell's the beast.

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<v Speaker 5>Kelsey Mitchell was an all time score all time leading

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<v Speaker 5>scorer in college basketball at Ohio State and Melissa Smith

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<v Speaker 5>was a number two overall pick, Aleah Boston a number

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<v Speaker 5>one overall pick. They've been bad, and by being bad,

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<v Speaker 5>you hope to nail your draft picks. And while they

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<v Speaker 5>only won thirteen games last year, their win total I

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<v Speaker 5>think now is like twenty twenty one and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>So they're asking Caitlin Clark to just put them at

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<v Speaker 5>five hundred, which I think is very much doable.

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<v Speaker 6>Now. Their schedule out of the gate is not easy.

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<v Speaker 5>They got to play Connecticut twice, New York twice, they

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<v Speaker 5>go to Seattle, they go to Vegas. That's not that's

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<v Speaker 5>a gauntlet to start your pro career. So but long

0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.080
<v Speaker 5>and short of the whole thing is like these these

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<v Speaker 5>stars that are coming out of college with the shoe deal,

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<v Speaker 5>Caitlyn just signed, the media attention they've see, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>need to be protected. I think they get it. They

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<v Speaker 5>understand what they're getting into. And I know they're young.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand that, but I think they're very much ready

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<v Speaker 5>for the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm glad that you brought that up. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if this is a dumb question, but

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<v Speaker 4>do you think that makes like home court this year

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<v Speaker 4>in the WNBA mean less or maybe there's an extra

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<v Speaker 4>battsfit betting the road teams. You know, because for the

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<v Speaker 4>next two seasons, like you said, the WNBA is going

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<v Speaker 4>to begin traveling to away games on these chartered flights.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, since the league's inception, like three decades ago,

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<v Speaker 4>nearly thirty years ago, it's been a different case. So

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<v Speaker 4>do you think that that means less for home court advantage?

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<v Speaker 5>It's interesting, right because Connecticut is one of the toughest

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<v Speaker 5>places to get to around me. There's twelve teams in

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<v Speaker 5>Connecticut's and I mean, you don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 5>have been in Mohigan Sun it's in the middle of nowhere. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>like Alyssa Thomas to want to Bonner, they're an engaged couple.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a public thing. Now they've been a couple. They

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<v Speaker 5>like their privacy, they like their time away. They like

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<v Speaker 5>missed it Connecticut with the beaches. They like Eastlme beautiful

0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.159
<v Speaker 5>little town in Connecticut right by the water. It's a

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<v Speaker 5>good question though, because I think and the impact that

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<v Speaker 5>Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese are going to have is

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<v Speaker 5>now these teams are moving their home games. When Clark

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 5>is on the road with Indiana, and when Reese is

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<v Speaker 5>on the road with Chicago. They're moving their games to

0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.040
<v Speaker 5>bigger arenas. So now you're asking it's now it's not

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<v Speaker 5>just the home fans that are attending, it's visiting fans

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<v Speaker 5>of these players when they were in college, because that's

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<v Speaker 5>just I think, just natural casual basketball fans or fans

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<v Speaker 5>that got into the game these last couple of years

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<v Speaker 5>of the college game.

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<v Speaker 6>Now they're coming out to the arena.

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<v Speaker 5>So now I'll just give an example, like the Vegas

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<v Speaker 5>Aces play at Michelobultra at Mandala Bay. Now they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to play when Caitlin Clark comes to town, they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to play over at the T Mobile Arena where the

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<v Speaker 5>Golden Knights play. So no question, there's just going to

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<v Speaker 5>be more more people and more casual fans going to games.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know about Connecticut though, because like I still

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<v Speaker 5>think Connecticut's got a special its own spot compared to

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of the league from a nationwide standpoint, What.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think in terms of like a team no

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<v Speaker 2>one's talking about that may be better than we think,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's just betting them against the spread as underdogs,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe thinking about taking the over on their season long

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<v Speaker 2>win total, or maybe even just like a player that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of being undervalued that maybe we want.

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<v Speaker 1>To look at her props.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the Seattle Storm had a low key

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<v Speaker 5>great offseason by bringing in their own big three with

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<v Speaker 5>Neka Guo McKay, who has a very high role in

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<v Speaker 5>the Players Association. Jewel Lloyd led the league in scoring,

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<v Speaker 5>was an absolute dog when she played at Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 5>led the league in scoring last year. And then you

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<v Speaker 5>add Skyler digg and Smith who was out of the

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<v Speaker 5>league last year going through some things off the court.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you bring in two players that in Jewe Lloyd

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<v Speaker 5>and Skyler Digg and Smith that played together at Notre Dame,

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<v Speaker 5>They've already had chemistry playing together in their previous ties

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<v Speaker 5>at the college level.

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<v Speaker 6>Seattle comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 5>I like what Phoenix did in the offseason as much

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<v Speaker 5>as Tarasi gut headlines for what she was saying and

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<v Speaker 5>the smack talking the Tasha Cloud won a championship when

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<v Speaker 5>she was in Washington. Kalia Copper was a finals MVP

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<v Speaker 5>just a couple of years ago. They're a little they

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<v Speaker 5>feel a little under doggish, being counted out, and then

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<v Speaker 5>The other team I think would be the Dallas Wings.

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<v Speaker 5>They brought back almost their entire team. Rique is a

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<v Speaker 5>elital Score had her best year as a facilitator, led

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<v Speaker 5>her career best and assists at four and a half

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<v Speaker 5>a game. So Saboly is a budding star. So those

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<v Speaker 5>three teams out West and Dallas last year gave Vegas

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<v Speaker 5>some fits during the regular season. So those were some

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<v Speaker 5>teams that come to mind. And as crazy as it sounds,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like last year's attention in the league was

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<v Speaker 5>about New York and Vegas super team against super team,

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<v Speaker 5>and now I think folks are forgetting it. Vegas has

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<v Speaker 5>had their shine, no doubt. They just visited the White

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<v Speaker 5>House this week. But like, don't forget, Like New York

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<v Speaker 5>has its year two with that that core four Ambonije,

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<v Speaker 5>Lany So Stewie, John Quell Jones, Sabrinio and Escu Court Evanderslout.

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<v Speaker 5>They bring that whole team back and they just had

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<v Speaker 5>kind of their feeling out year and they went to

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<v Speaker 5>a finals. It kind of that New York team last

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<v Speaker 5>year reminded me a lot of what Lebron, Wade and

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<v Speaker 5>Bosh went through.

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<v Speaker 6>New New super team.

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<v Speaker 5>They're the next big thing and then you get your

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of get smacked in the face when you

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<v Speaker 5>went to the finals against a juggernaut like Vegas. New

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<v Speaker 5>York's gonna chip on their shoulder and had some time

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<v Speaker 5>together last year that should help them this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, New York plus two thirty to be the WNBA

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<v Speaker 2>Finals winner.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your thoughts just kind of briefly.

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<v Speaker 2>On Toronto getting an expansion team, and you think my

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 2>hometown Portland might be next, because I was a big

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<v Speaker 2>Portland Power fan growing up.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Portland.

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<v Speaker 5>So Portland was in some chatter about getting a team

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<v Speaker 5>and then I'm not sure what happened there. They had

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<v Speaker 5>a bid and then it kind of it kind of collapsed.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not entirely sure what happened with the Portland thing.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a lot of noise about Philadelphia and their

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:52.240
<v Speaker 5>basketball culture, and their fans are certainly certainly into it.

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<v Speaker 5>So Philadelphia had a lot of chatter, but Toronto was

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 5>always in the mix. They did a game in Edmonton

0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 5>in the preseason. They had a game in Toronto last year,

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<v Speaker 5>your preseason game. So I think the Toronto angle also

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 5>ties into the Chartered flights because now it's like all right,

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:08.679
<v Speaker 5>we want to bring Toronto into the mix. That's going

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 5>to be an important component to have flights that can

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<v Speaker 5>be serviceable in and out, in and around the border.

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<v Speaker 5>So no, I mean, I mean, look at the when

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 5>the Raptors are good, and that they they've certainly they've

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 5>moved off players here the last couple of years of

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 5>the Toronto Raptors, but when they had Kawhi, there was

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<v Speaker 5>some real buzz.

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<v Speaker 6>With that team. So and look look at the NBA.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, the amount of talent that comes out of Canada

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<v Speaker 5>is unreal and I would imagine that's the same case

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to the women. So Toronto makes a

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 5>lot of sense. They are they're pumping out really good

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 5>basketball players from north of the border.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you do anything We still got about one minute left.

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<v Speaker 4>Rookie of the Year Caitlyn Clark's minus seven to fifty,

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 4>But would you do anything other than Wilson with the MVP.

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.679
<v Speaker 4>You have Breonna Stewart plus five fifty, Caitlin Clark's ten

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<v Speaker 4>to one.

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<v Speaker 3>She has the third best at crazy any other looks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I see Jewel Lloyd's on that board. I

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<v Speaker 5>think a little bit further down. Yeah, I just talked about.

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<v Speaker 5>We just talked about New York Jock Quell Jones one

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 5>an MVP a couple of years ago, in twenty twenty one,

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 5>and I'm not sure what her price is right now,

0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 5>but John Quell Jones was their best player I thought,

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<v Speaker 5>in the second half of the year and in those

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 5>WNBA finals. Now, the problem with picking a player from

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 5>the liberty other than Stuart is well, there's one ball,

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 5>and how do you put up elite numbers when you're

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 5>in theory sharing the wealth and the balls going around.

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 5>It could be someone any given night. But John Quell

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<v Speaker 5>Jones in year two with New York, I don't know, man,

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 5>she was their best player down the stretch last year.

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<v Speaker 6>She might be interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if she puts together a full season.

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<v Speaker 6>I like that. One hundred and twenty five to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Brendan, thanks so much, man, really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 5>On again soon, thanks for having me looking forward to

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be at the Mohegan next week for Clark's debuts.

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<v Speaker 6>That'll be fun. Aw Ye jealous.

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<v Speaker 3>Brendan Glastein right there play by play for the main Celtics.

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<v Speaker 3>You can catch them on the Action Network as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Big shout out to Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>Our second guest today is Kurt Healin, the lead NBA

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 2>writer for NBC Sports. Kurt also came on my show

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Ben I'm Jim tonight and as always, he was super insightful.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump into.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk some more NBA playoffs right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it with one of the best, Kurt Healin,

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<v Speaker 4>lead NBA writer over at NBC sports dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Kurt, thanks so much for joining us here on a

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<v Speaker 3>Friday night.

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<v Speaker 6>How you been I've been good.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks for having me in.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I want to start with this series right here.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Knicks go down. It's a two to one series.

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 4>They lose og ananob obviously a huge loss. He had

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 4>twenty eight points the other night. We know what he

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 4>brings on the defensive end. You know, how concerned are

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 4>you right now? If you're a Knicks fan, if any

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 4>or if you're concerned at all.

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:46.359
<v Speaker 7>I'd be very concerned, frankly. I mean, there's a mass

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 7>unit like in this team right now. Hey, they are

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 7>so banged up. It is such a problem. I mean,

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 7>they've already got guys playing a lot of minutes. But

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 7>og gave them good three point shooting, corner three point

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 7>shooting an offensive punch on top of the defense that

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 7>you talked about. He was one of those guys kind

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 7>of closing out from the corner and grabbing offensive rebounds

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.400
<v Speaker 7>and keeping balls alive. Twenty eight points in the last

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 7>game before he went out. They needed that. They at

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 7>some point, you're gonna run out of guys who can't

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 7>step up, right, Like, at some point they're gonna just

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 7>hit the max on number of guys. So I'd be

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 7>really concerned because these games were already tight. This one

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 7>goes to the Pacers and guys, I mean, I know

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 7>the Knicks covered. I thought this was going to go

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 7>back to New York too too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. The physicality feels like

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.919
<v Speaker 2>that's been really a constant theme of this playoffs. The

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>most physical teams are consistently flourishing. In the teams that

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 2>are more finesse, like the Pacers who do get the win,

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and the Nuggets more of these like spacing type teams

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 2>are struggling. What do you think this means for the

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Nuggets moving forward? Do you have any faith that in

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>a down two zero spot going into Minnesota that they

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 2>could steal one?

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 7>I don't know if they got some like water from

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 7>lords and rubbed it on Jamal Murray's leg and there

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 7>was some miraculous healing of some kind. Because I think

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 7>that's the real issue is, Look, he was slowed against

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 7>the Lakers. They didn't have a defender who could still

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.959
<v Speaker 7>stay in front of him in key minutes. But this

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 7>is a team that's frankly, if you don't have that

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 7>two man game, if you don't have the Murray Jokic

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 7>two man game that has won them a title, I

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 7>don't know what you're gonna do. Like this team is

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 7>really gonna struggle. I mean, Aaron Gordon doesn't really create

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 7>his own shot KCP same thing. They need that two

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 7>man game. And if Murray isn't right there, now, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you thinking right now about this Boston series, Because

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean they're the huge favorites, heavy favorites to represent

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 4>the East in the NBA Finals. They lose to Cleveland,

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 4>and at first I didn't think it was that big

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 4>of a deal until you look at the way that

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Cleveland played defensively.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>And I think since.

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 4>Joe Mizula took over as head coach at Boston, I

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 4>mean like every three was contested. Cleveland played him really

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 4>tough defensively, Like, is that a series that concerns you

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 4>if you're a Boston fan, or do you think Boston

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 4>probably wins in five to six and moves on to

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 4>the Eastern Conference Finals.

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm not concerned yet. It's five six because they have

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 7>these games, right, They just they you know, it's a

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 7>family show, so we won't say what they do to

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 7>the bad but they do it like once a series

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 7>that just happens. And this was that game. They shot

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 7>what twenty two percent from three and they just seem

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 7>if what worries me more about them? Frankly, they've done

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:19.959
<v Speaker 7>this for a few years now, going back to when

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 7>Audoka was coached. They just they don't play with urgency

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 7>in games they should be playing really with urgency, right,

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 7>They just kind of we're good enough, man, We're gonna

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 7>coast through this kind of moment. It's an issue. And

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 7>you know what, you can give away a game to

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 7>the Heat without Jimmy Butler, you can give away a

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 7>game in this series. I'd be careful giving away a

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 7>game to the Knicks. You know, if that's who they

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 7>face in the next round and whoever comes out of

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 7>the West, you give them a game in your toast,

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 7>like there's somebody's coming out of a gauntlet in the West.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.239
<v Speaker 7>It's gonna be a culture shock for Boston already are

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 7>going up against a much more physical defense. They can't

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 7>give a game away like that. They've this had better

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 7>be the last one in the playoffs.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about the criticism about Tatum not

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>being a big game player. I mean, he had some

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 2>crucial ones a couple of I think that one game

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 2>seven two years ago or last year, I forget which one,

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>But there's been a lot of important moments where he

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 2>hasn't really shown up, at least in terms of scoring

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>the basketball.

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 7>No, and he hasn't had those games where I mean,

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 7>Kyrie Irving didn't score a lot of points last night,

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 7>but if you watch the game, he absolutely impacted the

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 7>game for Cleveland. He had a good game. Jason doesn't

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 7>do that sometimes, and I think when we're talking about

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 7>them kind of having these off nights, I think it

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 7>starts with him and to a degree, Jalen Brown, there's

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 7>just too school cool for school attitude. I'm not even

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 7>sure how else to describe it. They're just we're so

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 7>good we can just kind of be ourselves and they

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 7>don't play with that urgency, and I'm worried about it.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was super whack last night that after

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a loss, Jason Tatum said, we're not a super team.

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>We don't have a Coach of the Year, we don't

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 2>have an MVP, we only have two All Stars. And

0:29:56.000 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe technically that's right, but really, you've got five and

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>former All Stars on this team. Like, I just don't

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 2>understand that rhetoric after a loss.

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 7>Why does everybody need to be the underdog? Why is

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 7>it like right, it's like and it's not even like,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 7>it's not even this, it's it's politics, it's you know, life, culture, whatever.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Everybody's an underdog. Drake thinks he's an underdog, right, like,

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 7>you know whatever. Like I'm just I'm kind of tired

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 7>of the whole like everybody's got to be I don't know,

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 7>everybody's picking on me when like, dude, you're the majority

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 7>and you're in control whatever. It's top this and this

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 7>is just part of it. Every team's looking for that edge.

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 7>Everybody wants to be us against the world, right, And

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 7>I guess Boston does too.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Kurt So like the hardest part for me now, like

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 4>betting the NBA is I grew up like in Chicago

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 4>in the nineties, so every year I thought it was

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 4>crazy when people would make the case for anybody, but

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 4>the bulls and I like usually tend to bet the

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 4>teams with the best player or the teams that have

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 4>had like their bumps and bruises in the playoffs.

0:30:56.080 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 3>But the NBA has changed a little bit.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, there are a lot of people making the

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 4>case against Denver land year, and then people making the

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 4>case against Minnesota this year. They're too young, even though

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Mike Connelly's like thirty seven Cats been around forever and

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Go Bear has playoff experience, and.

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Then the same thing with ok See. Has the league changed?

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 6>You know?

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 4>A couple of years ago was the super teams with

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 4>Miami and then Golden State. Now we're seeing like some

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 4>of these younger teams and they're for real, Like has

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 4>the league changed it all?

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 6>Where?

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's it's like there's different ways now to

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 4>build the team. It's not about the super teams. It's

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 4>kind of like building within the draft it is.

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 7>And I don't think you can build ask Phoenix. I

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 7>don't think you can build just as a raw super

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 7>team right now in the same way. You can do

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 7>it sort of like Boston's done it. But when you

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 7>look at and I wrote about this today, how Minnesota

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 7>did it and how Miami did I mean Miami, Oklahoma

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.479
<v Speaker 7>City did it. Smart trades, smart draft picks, pick a coach,

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 7>pick a style, pick a system, Decide who you're going

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 7>to be and what your identity is. Build towards it,

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 7>get players that fit it, then be patient, then wait

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 7>a couple of years let it all meld together. If

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 7>you do, I just don't think you can do the well.

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<v Speaker 7>I think Phoenix is the perfect example. Hey we got

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<v Speaker 7>three superstars. That's gonna be enough. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 7>be enough. You need depth. You now need defense, especially

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<v Speaker 7>physical wing defense. If the league is going to keep

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<v Speaker 7>this defensive style allowed, which I think it is it's

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<v Speaker 7>been popular. If you can be physical on defense, it

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<v Speaker 7>changes how you want to build your team.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Yeah, it really does, and especially not scapegoating your coach.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a couple of years if there's a regression,

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<v Speaker 2>and we saw that with you know, ok see, they

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<v Speaker 2>hung around with Mark Dagnoll even though he regressed, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they did with Chris Finch, even after last year.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had to choose a team in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>right now that's up and coming that you think is

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<v Speaker 2>doing what you're saying, like picking an identity, sticking with

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<v Speaker 2>an identity and drafting, Well, who is that team that

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<v Speaker 2>no one's talking about right this second?

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<v Speaker 7>I'n say Oklahoma City is kind of the model, but

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<v Speaker 7>we're kind of talking about them. I'm trying to think,

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<v Speaker 7>let me run suddenly, like who took a step forward

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<v Speaker 7>this year that I'm suddenly like not thinking of because

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not looking at a list.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that Orlando?

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<v Speaker 6>For you?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that they're.

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<v Speaker 7>I was trying to run through. Orlando's a good example

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<v Speaker 7>of hey, we're going to be long, physical, defensive. Now

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<v Speaker 7>they need a point guard, They need somebody to organize

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<v Speaker 7>that offense a little bit. I love Palo, but he

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<v Speaker 7>shouldn't be your primary shot creator and down right like,

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<v Speaker 7>but if you look at them and watch them and think, man,

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<v Speaker 7>if you gave them Mike Conley or you know, Tyas Jones,

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<v Speaker 7>de Jante Murray, somebody like that would be like somebody

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<v Speaker 7>like that to just organize them. Who can create a shot,

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<v Speaker 7>Who can run a pick and roll and guys, Orlando,

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<v Speaker 7>if you're listening, Clay's awesome.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't do it though, Yeah, I agree, no't Clay's unless

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<v Speaker 8>you've got a DeLorean with a flux capacitor in the

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<v Speaker 8>back and you can go get the Klay Thompson from

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<v Speaker 8>about twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 7>No, don't like it's it's it's not gonna fit where

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<v Speaker 7>you want to be. But that's a perfect thank you

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<v Speaker 7>for helping me in the fare. I was just going blank,

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<v Speaker 7>But that's a perfect example of, Hey, we know what

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<v Speaker 7>we want to be. We got a coach we believe

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<v Speaker 7>in who Jamal Mosley was stirred on my Coach of

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<v Speaker 7>the Year ballot. Let's let this marinate naturally and grow

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<v Speaker 7>into something and I think it. Look, they've got to

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<v Speaker 7>make a couple moves. Still, there's still work to do,

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<v Speaker 7>but you can see the trajectory there.

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<v Speaker 1>On how about less than a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>But for you, I just wanted to get your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on these coaching carousels. Like to fire Frank Vogel only

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<v Speaker 2>to hire somebody who's almost exactly like Frank Vogel but

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<v Speaker 2>better in the locker room doesn't make much sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you got guys.

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<v Speaker 2>With the getting paid by multiple teams because they've been

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<v Speaker 2>fired so often, Bud Bud being one of them.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Frank Vogel, by the way, won a championship and

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<v Speaker 7>got fired twice within four years. Welcome to the NBA. Man,

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<v Speaker 7>like crazy, it's I love Mike Budenholzer as a person

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<v Speaker 7>and as a coach, and I think there are great

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<v Speaker 7>situations for him. I don't think it's Phoenix, by the way.

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<v Speaker 7>I just I don't see his acumen changing them that much.

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<v Speaker 7>So I look, man again, if you keep changing coaches,

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<v Speaker 7>then you keep changing styles, and you keep changing everything,

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<v Speaker 7>you don't have the consistency to win like the teams.

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<v Speaker 7>We can talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Kurt, thanks so much, Thank you join the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the game that I will talk again soon. Thank care,

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<v Speaker 4>Kurt healing right there, nbcsports dot Com.

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