1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast as hard eyes for the tiny box, 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: all right back to the workshop from the Chris Westling 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: got heroes here, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, Ms Hard Eyes herself. 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: That's our new voice of God. Jason Zumwalt. Jason Zumwalt, 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: did I say your name? And that is that's a 7 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: Jason special and that he's kind of going into the 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez bag there a little bit. I actually I 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: texted with with umwalt a bit a couple of days 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: ago and we were work shopping some ideas that would 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: maybe surprise the rest of you down the road, not immediately. 12 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: What did not include? That sounds like a sneak attack. 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: I like it, though. Now it's not a sneak attack. 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: It's just more what Jason and I would talk about 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: in our own free time. I think we's it encouraged. 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Like if mark is putting some time in, putting some 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: time into the show away from where, we should encourage 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: do you everyone? Mark, I don't like what you're suggesting there, 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: but that's mark. You know I love you and I 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: love Jason, who's a long time friend but have you 21 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: ever noticed when you make those you drop those kind 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: of hints or Asides, like, Oh, when me and Jason 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: Have our private conversations, I never asked what they are 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: because it's better I don't know, because I kind of 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: know what they're probably about. It is better that you 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea, I don't you don't 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: want to know. I'm with the listeners. Let them have 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: their thing. Did this happen? Often we text? I mean 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: we were texting about the cardinals game, for instance, during 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: the cardinals game on Sudday. But then it we'll branch 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: out a variety of topics. Stay wholesome. Star Wars mostly 32 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: right now, actually, that I know that, I don't think 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: that's what Dan's referring to. That never comes up. Oh No, 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: almost never. This is the Tuesday show Connie's yere Um. 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: In case you missed it, go check out Greg Rosenthal, 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: a reef Hassan, who, by the way, Greg needs you 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: to know, has a new job and Justin Graver himself 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: chopping up the double header Monday night football. And I 39 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: don't know about Connie, I don't know about you. As 40 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: your theme song plays, did it kind of feel like 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe we the two super bowl teams you're playing on 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: Monday night. Okay, you need to stop and Um the 43 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: world is not ready for that. I mean you were 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of getting on me a couple of weeks ago. 45 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: You didn't like that I picked the eagles to the 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: superb bathing in the hype. Okay, good, yeah, it was 47 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: very strange to watch the eagles last night be so 48 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: good and the feelings that I felt while watching them. 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: You know what we haven't felt in a little while. 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: We had you on the night after Carson Wentz, before 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: we knew what would happen with Carson Wentz, when he 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: was on an M v P t. You came on after, 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: I think it was against Washington that they just destroyed 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: them on a Monday night football game, and you had 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: the same level of anxiety where you were a little 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: bit unwilling to embrace what was going to happen. But 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: what did happen? Why not just jump in and enjoy it? 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: The career changing injury? But they did. Talking a wider 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: thing like team, because in general, I like to set 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: the bar very low, like I have the bar on 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: the ground, because I don't like to be disappointed. So 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: anything that happens. It's a nice surprise. Um. So I 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: like to expect that the eagles are going to be 64 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: trash every year, so then I can find happiness later on, 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: maybe like enjoy it while you can't, because, because that 66 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: that's a great point, um. That's a great point. That's 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: a you know, counterpoint. Um, I found covering this league 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: for for many years for me about your time covering 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: the first the first two weeks of the year almost 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: always entirely points out what's going to happen. The rest 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: of the snarkiness from Greg, by the way. Um, how 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: are you doing, Greg? You were ethered by UH, colleen's 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: husband in a very public forum. You tweeted out booing 74 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor feels unnecessary, which I agree with, by the way. 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: To the Eagles fans, John Responds, your extra g is 76 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: unnecessary and this is notable. And I actually think, Greg, 77 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you accomplished. Is that ethered? I think 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: that's like a very reply. Guy. Joking, just let me 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: pay you a compliment. Okay, just chilled. It got ninety 80 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: four replies, nearly five retweets and over seven thousand likes, 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: and I think because triple GS got some swing. It 82 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: gave Johnny the pop he needed to get over on 83 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: social there so a lot of things, but he you 84 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: were ethered and I don't know if you'll ever be 85 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: the same. I'm just your thoughts now that you get 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: a public forum, maybe swipe a job. I wasn't aware 87 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: of that. It Um would not stop talking about it 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: during our ranking. Not The cool guy that never looks 89 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: at your mentions. I do, but we had the Monday 90 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: night football recap. We were doing the channel five show 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: and I guess, yeah, I haven't tuned in too. I 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: wasn't like checking John's twitter feed. Do you feel like 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: one of your G's is exposed too much now? No, 94 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean hanging out the G is totally necessary. If 95 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: there wasn't the extra G, it would be fifty g. 96 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: That like ruins it. Sixty is the number. I love that. 97 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Gy wouldn't reply, though. You can't just let him take 98 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: you out like that, take you behind the woodshed. You 99 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: represent the entire show, Greg. I'm not just saying that. 100 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: That I was unaware of. Like, I hadn't thought about 101 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: it since I saw it. I think it's nice. I 102 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: think it's nice for for friends and this is what 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Philadelphia people do to Zing each other. This is the 104 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: sort of relationship I want. That that's my love language. 105 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: Compliments are gonna make me feel uncomfortable since the summer. 106 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: So this is the pick eagles to go further than 107 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: they go every single year, including to the playoffs last year. 108 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: So maybe John Owes you an apology. Sure. I stand 109 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: by the Reagor thing, though, and like eagles fans are 110 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: funny because all they do is complain about like, oh well, 111 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: you guys always bring up the batteries, you bring up 112 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: the sand, like this is why this is in the 113 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: same ballpark, like it was unnecessary one time. A little 114 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: bit like it's talk about punching down. You're punching down 115 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: at Jalen Reagor. He has failed in his career. He 116 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: knows that he's he's a bust. He they should be 117 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: happy that they got a draft pick for him. They're 118 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: doing great right now. So so all it is is 119 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: like maybe one time you give him a little bit, 120 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: but it just seems strange, because how unimportant is Jalen 121 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Reagor to the eagles? Much less the last was. You 122 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: know what it was? It was kind of mean girls 123 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: behavior and the and they, you know, the mean girls 124 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: at the table to cafeteria. They're the poor nerd at 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: the other side of the cafeteria. It's like great, you 126 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: guys are really enjoying yourselves, but the rest of US 127 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: think you're kind of right. It's like what I think 128 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: if it's Russell Wilson or if it's kyrie irving coming 129 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: back to Boston, or it's something like huge starts, Jalen 130 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: reagor absolutely. But then don't be like, Oh, stop bringing 131 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: up the Santas like this was so long ago. Don't 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: bring up the same it's the same thing that will 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: bring up the right we just see greg on a 134 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: large screen at the Eagles Stadium moralizing the whole thing 135 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: to them, and then see how that plays over. It's 136 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: great to do it here, but I think the eagles 137 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: fans kind of know they're but embrace it, don't. Don't 138 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: whine that everyone you're a celtics fan, right, and that's 139 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: just no new material. Right. Okay, so now we go 140 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: just to put a bow on things, because Greg, you know, 141 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: this is his front facing version. He did say into 142 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: text to me and mark. This is uh, Justin on 143 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: the our private uh text channel. Did you see this Gonzo, 144 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: that cloud chasing mother for? So that's what you were 145 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: looking for. So that is pretty hard words for colleen's husband. 146 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: And I thought that you guys were pretty close. Correg, 147 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I know that. You know wouldn't happen, because Dan wouldn't 148 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: want to like step on anything before the show himself. 149 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: Right now for the show. Who is that, connor? Or 150 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: there is Love Connor? Alright, today's show, yes, but again, 151 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: check out the Monday night football recap. Had a grave 152 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: digger comport himself, by the way, very professionally. The Titans. 153 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: That did not go well on it was more anger 154 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: than sadness, which plays well on this show. We've all 155 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: been there. Um. So, speaking of the Titans, today's show 156 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: shortened to the point we'll not shut probably. Uh. The 157 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: titans are one of seven teams that will enter week 158 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: three without a victory. So this feels like a good time. Two, colleen, 159 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: you and I do the power rankings PODCAST, which you 160 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: can get right now. Uh, listeners, a good time for 161 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: the cornered animal power rankings. What is a cornered animal? Mark? 162 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: What is a cornered animal in sports terms? Now you're 163 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: backed into a rough place and you're gonna do everything 164 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: you can and you're being to claw your way out 165 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: of it. Yes, exactly, a perfect answer by Mark Sessler. 166 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go using, uh, to call back to 167 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: another podcast that you and I have, colleen, the hard 168 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: ncks podcast. We use the vector, the vector voting system, 169 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: to figure out who is the most dangerous of the 170 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: cornered animal and on the other side of the spectrum, 171 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: who is a little kitty cat? Is that a dying cow? Dinosaur? 172 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 1: Maybe just a little. So what we start there? Do 173 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: you want to get into it please? That is the 174 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: sound of a Carolina Panther. Oh, according to our vector 175 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: voting system, they have six points total, which is very low, 176 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: which means they are the least dangerous corner animal. Or 177 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: maybe not. Well, I'll give you a little update in 178 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: a few minutes, but let's start with the panthers. It's 179 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: like an update that. It's a tie. There's a tie 180 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: at the bottom. Okay, but we'll start that. We're gonna, like, 181 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: update the voting system, which is what we do in 182 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: this country now, and we don't like the results. So 183 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: it's it's good now. That was good. That was on point. 184 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: Johnny here that you want to know what's unnecessary time 185 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: that chain you're wearing around. Okay, you know you couldn't 186 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: do it. You Knew Greg was gonna come back, and 187 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: maybe I played a role in this, but I was 188 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was going to but now he's 189 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: come back. Why? Why are you know? Actually, I like 190 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: it that you've talked about how you could. We talked 191 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: about it. Those of us who haven't seen John with 192 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: he has a chain, a Chane. He only were just water. Really, 193 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: where is it when he goes pull it off? I 194 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: like Canzo can pull it off. I like it. I 195 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: mean this is everyone can. By the way, I sometimes 196 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: worried that I don't have feelings, because the listeners should 197 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: know that. Mark looked directly Greg Greg has come up 198 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: with the snare that he wants to have a chain. 199 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: It's like Gonzo, is one of the rare people I 200 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: know that could wear it and you wouldn't even think 201 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: the hell. And I wasn't saying I wanted I was 202 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: saying Gonzo and Connie, we're trying to tell me that 203 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: I could pull a chain, that I could wear a chain. 204 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: At the end of the show. Can we get John 205 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: on to sort some things out. All right, let's get 206 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: to it. Let's Talk Panthers. So collectively, we all are 207 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: not high on the panthers digging out of this hole. Um. 208 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: In fact, let's see, Greggy UH and Connie both had 209 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: them at the bottom of the list. Connie, I'll start 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: with you. So the panthers I'd owned to unimpressive in 211 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: the two losses. You think they're totally cooked already. This 212 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: just is a team that is floating in mediocrity right now. 213 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: It's a team that there's nothing exciting about them. I 214 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: I just don't like what they're doing on offense. It 215 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: feels like they're completely stuck. They're worse than I expected 216 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: them to be this year. Everything is just like very 217 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: choppy so far. I know it's only two weeks, but 218 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: the offense is just constantly up and down. Um, Baker Mayfield, 219 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: I guess they thought that he would bring a little 220 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: bit more explosion to this team, but not through these 221 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: two games. Christian McCaffrey, that usage is kind of weird. 222 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: It's just the whole thing doesn't give me any optimism 223 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: that they're going to turn things around. At least like 224 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: play a game that I'm excited to watch right like 225 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: when I thought about cornered animal power rankings and this exercise, 226 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: I thought, like which one is going to be the 227 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: angriest to like get out at that corner? Which one 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: is gonna like take some clause out? It wasn't really 229 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: about talent. It was more about, like our season is 230 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: now on the line, we're in trouble. WHO's gonna fight 231 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: to like save where we are? And, yeah, I don't know, 232 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the scrappiest team like the vibes. You hate to save 233 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: vibes because they lost these two games by three points. 234 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: It's not like the players aren't trying, but you don't 235 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: get a center that there's like a center of this 236 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: team that is going to hold them together. What is 237 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: it that they do? Well, maybe Christian McCaffrey is that center, 238 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: but the offensive line is still a bit of a mess. 239 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I would say. If I had to rank 240 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks this week, I haven't seen your QB index, 241 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: I would say thirty one or thirty two would be 242 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: my choice. Okay, so they're just, in terms of these 243 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: two weeks alone, not looking and their defense isn't special. 244 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: It's solid, but it's not special. I mean, first of all, 245 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: I think players are really keyed in on the coaching staff, 246 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: what's being said about the coaching stuff, what the coaching 247 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: staff says to them, what the proven results are of 248 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Matt rule is essentially sort of a 249 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: dead man walking. I don't mean that in a personal sense, 250 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: but like these guys understand, they're looking at the results. 251 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has come in and I thought played the 252 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: worst football of his career and first of all, when 253 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: he's not protected well, you're gonna get the worst version 254 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield, and that's what we've gotten. I mean 255 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: the first game against Cleveland, four fumbled snaps, their line 256 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: is a huge mess. Their defense, which last year at 257 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: this time when they got out to the three and 258 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: no start, was a difference maker, and I just I 259 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: don't see what you can cling on too and say 260 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: this is what's pulling them out of that corner. Baker 261 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: is not what they wanted in the last couple of years. 262 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: They were looking to find a difference maker and staid. 263 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: They found a guy that I think plays he needs 264 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: to have a lot around him to thrive and we're 265 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: seeing he doesn't have a lot around it. But he 266 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: also does have he has Christian McCaffrey, he has D 267 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: J Moore. There there are some pieces, but obviously this 268 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: isn't a very deep team. They're in a lot of trouble. 269 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Makes Sense. Are We gonna see Sam Donald in a 270 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: few weeks? What does that do for me? He's not 271 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: healthy either. How much of it is Ben Macadoo too? 272 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Like that Rock Star Offensive Coordinator? He doesn't fit to me. 273 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: Like Matt Rule has a very boring, but maybe it 274 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: could be effective offense. But it's like getting the ball 275 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: out of your hands and making quick decisions, which is 276 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: the last thing that Baker Mayfield is good at. Okay, 277 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: so there's a tie. As I said, I think you 278 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: guys can guess who they are tied with. Oh, one 279 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: and one. Let's move to the A F C south. Um, 280 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: I have them at the very bottom of the power rankings, 281 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. So yes, very much. So. Maybe this 282 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: would be what's say the text in it's like a bull. 283 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Is that the logo? What's a kiss? I'm not. I'm 284 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: not into I don't know all farm animals the way 285 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: that some do. Yeah, some do. Um, this is my concern. 286 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Don't worry concerns and I know there was some positive 287 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: vibes around Houston entering the season, and I'll let you 288 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: the kissing Cuz is here. Uh new kissing cousins with 289 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the UMLOT get their saying. I'm curious where you guys 290 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: come down now. But this offense stanks right so far anyway, 291 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: they have managed. They managed two and thirty four yards 292 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: and three field goals and that loss to the broncos. 293 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Mills fumbled. Davis Mills has not played well. He's fumbled 294 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: twice on Sunday, average less than five yards per attempt 295 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: and they go four and out in the final minute 296 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: and it's just like there isn't a lot of juice 297 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: going on with this offense and the defense is and 298 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: a difference maker. I think we talked about it on 299 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: the podcast on Sunday and I'll say it again after 300 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: watching a lot of the Games yesterday, like how many 301 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: teams beat the Broncos on Sunday? How many teams should 302 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: have beaten the Bron broncos had no business winning Sunday 303 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: the product they put on the field. But Houston's that 304 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: bad right now. That's why I have him at the 305 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: bottom and that's why they tie for last in our 306 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: cornered animal power and my optimism to some degree, was 307 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: what we saw from David's mills at the end of 308 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: last season. I feel like right now he's regressing, or 309 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: he has regressed, and you're attached to a coaching staff that, 310 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: I think again, what are you telling your team when 311 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: you go for that tie in week one, and that 312 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: was a tie against the colts, who are looking to 313 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: me like maybe Um, a lot less of a pristine 314 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: operation than we thought in August. I thought Damian Pierce 315 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: would be making a big difference. I thought someone like 316 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: Nico Collins when it was more like I thought this team, 317 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: this offense, would these young guys would come together and 318 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: maybe it would work. But that's not been the case. 319 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they're an abject disaster, though. No, 320 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: that's I think that's the defining storyline to these two weeks. 321 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: is like the bottom doesn't seem that different than the 322 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: middle in the NFL and there's not many teams really 323 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: at the top. It's just a big morass, and I 324 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: would say that like the Texans hasn't been like it. 325 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Like it. The Texans haven't been disappointing. This is basically 326 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: what we thought. I think they're frisky. I think actually, uh, 327 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: you put them in a corner. They have been so far. 328 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: They've played two games. Okay, everyone right. They have an 329 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: average defense. They played two games. In both of those 330 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: two games came down to the last minute. They're in 331 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. They're they're like they're the slogan in the NFL. 332 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: The point is, like we're they're very talent poor, whereas 333 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the other seven teams on these on 334 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: these cornered animal power rankings, have some more talent to it. 335 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: And the Texans have been in both of these games. 336 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: There they're not technically uh, I guess they are winless. 337 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: Are Oh, one and one, but they got some pressure 338 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson. They sacked them three times. They picked 339 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: them off to like the defense, I thought was kind 340 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: of the bright spot, if there was to take away 341 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: from that game. By the way, it's a bull torokas 342 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: this week. That's what a baby bull is. Yeah, don't 343 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: ask US Open ended animal questions. It makes and then 344 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 1: and post on the podcast. Just slide in a little 345 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: whatever the baby bull is. Um One reason that I 346 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: put them like ahead. It's called a calf or these 347 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: are things we should know. My wife grew up on 348 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: a farm, so that's where, as I said, calf, and 349 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I was correct. Why did they make up their farm? 350 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: They had cows, they had goats. They made cows or 351 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: they it wasn't a slaughterhouse. Well, why did they produce milk? 352 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: So it's a milk farm. Was Milk. It was goats 353 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: and chickens and chickens. Sounds disorganized. It's like the Denver Broncos. 354 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: That was my wife's childhood home growing up. This is 355 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: a bull roar, but that's too fierce for the Texans 356 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: right now. I need to see something on often, especially 357 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: these last the ends of these games. Wolf like the 358 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: their inability to the point where lovey Smith got scared 359 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: and played for a tie. That's how helpless they were 360 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: down the stretch in week one, and then we didn't 361 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: see much better again. This is a very soft start 362 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: to their schedule. The culture disaster and Denver is completely 363 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: out of sorts to not come out of that with 364 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: a wind. It's I heard. My thing is like. So 365 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: they are the kiddy cat for me, because I think 366 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: the Panthers, at least the coaching staff understand they're gonna 367 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: all need to be moving to another town very soon 368 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: if they don't win games. Where the Texans have said 369 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: we're rebuilding. To Greg's point, we're low talent and we've 370 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: already told you that we're giving a quarterback that probably 371 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: won't be an NFL starter next year a year long tryout. 372 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: We didn't trade for anyone. So it's like, are they 373 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: a wounded animal? There? Kind of said we are the word. 374 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: We are probably the worst team. Or expected them to 375 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: be better than this. Why they fire the last coach? 376 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: That was weird. He was bad at the job. You're rebuilding. 377 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: They were building last year too, and well, I think 378 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: you know what last year they were. There was a 379 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: lot of rest going on. They had a plan to 380 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: hire someone else than the man that they ended up 381 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: hiring for a variety of reasons. All right, we'll get 382 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: to the next team right after this break. Okay, let's now. 383 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: So all of us, by the way, had the Texans 384 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: and panthers in some order at the bottom. So now 385 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: the vector voting system heats up a little bit here. 386 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: The number five, five team uh in the cornered animal 387 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: power rankings. Co Co Cole the Falcons Fourteen points. Connie, 388 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Atlanta? Okay, I had Atlanta a little 389 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: bit higher because I think that they're a team of 390 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: chaos and that they can completely kind of, if we've 391 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: seen it the last two weeks, Co Co, Co Co, 392 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: they can dismantle a team's plans just when a team 393 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: is getting comfortable in their lead. The fact that what 394 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: they did to the rams, I mean they were dead 395 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: in that game and then came back and then they 396 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: blew it against the saints. So I think that it's 397 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: a team that I going coming into the season. I 398 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: had no expectations for them to be a good team 399 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: and they've actually surprised me the past two weeks by 400 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: putting on the performances that they have. Want to hear 401 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: something interesting. Connie had the falcons third in her personal 402 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: animal power. I love it. I also think do they 403 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: they're not a sit down and wait to see what 404 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: happens to us. Arthur Smith has some bite to him. 405 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: He's annoyed about the Kyle Pitt's questions, saying he's this 406 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: is not fantasy football. He's telling them. Back in May, 407 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: I remember all of you that said we wouldn't do 408 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: anything and they are a couple of plays away to yeah, 409 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: there are a couple of plays away from being I mean, 410 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: they're incorrect. Win Games because he said right, whatever you want. 411 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Some guys had US ranked. Well, there's that's impossible. There's 412 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: only thirty two teams. He's like, you buried us and 413 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: may bury us again. We don't care, we'll get back 414 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: to work. You ranked us. I mean, that's that's not 415 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: how the power rankings worked. Is that what you're you're 416 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: asking where? I had him in the power rankings this week. 417 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: That's what you're doing. Up One spot, though you are. 418 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: You're a little stubborn on that. Well, that's nice to 419 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: hear they went up a spot, but I feel like 420 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: you're not a falcons person, not yet. That first game 421 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: was flukey and terrible, but they did play, uh, pretty 422 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: great football for for three and a half quarter. They 423 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: are frisking. See, to me they feel like a cornered animal. 424 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: They are kind of China fight their way out of 425 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: this paper bag and they have to take out your 426 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: eyeballs with a beak to get out of there. They 427 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: will do that. I mean, you know what the fastest 428 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: animal on earth is? The Cheetah, the Peregrine Falcon. Very Good, Huh, 429 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: got my ass. Did Not know that. Thought it was 430 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: the cheating. Like Falcons. It should advertise itself more if 431 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: that's true, because no one is terrible for this Animal 432 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: Falcon Marketing. They showed pluck there. They nearly dug out 433 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: of that crazy hole um against the rams, which deserves 434 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: some love, but I do listen Arthur like a art 435 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: it is a problem that you haven't been able to 436 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: get kyle pitts involved in the offense in two weeks. 437 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: That's a bad look. That guy is special, so let's 438 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: see it, and I'm not saying that as a fantasy 439 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: owner of Kyle Pitts, which I am, but imagine if 440 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: this offense has drake London, who's absolutely showing he's a 441 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: big time player, and you're finding a way to scheme 442 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: you're potentially generational talent tight end open. That's some juice. 443 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: With a quarterback who can move with his legs and 444 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: can get hot anyway. This team's got hard. The team's 445 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: got hard. Then these the heart rankings, increasingly confusing. What 446 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: we're rankings that just do a team slogan for every team. Team, Hey, 447 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: this and they're almost all. This team's got hard, they 448 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: got hot. UH, here we go up next with sixteen points. 449 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: Interesting the Indianapolis Colts. I was on Good Morning Football 450 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: this morning and hell the boys and and Jamie, they 451 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: really gave it to old tug boat said, how could 452 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: the colts not be thirty two in this league right now? 453 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: And I have and yeah, and, but you absolutely, mark, 454 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: can make a case that the colts have been worse 455 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: than anyone in football. Coming off the obviously shut out 456 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: loss now to the Jaguars, it could not be lower. 457 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: Now I have them higher. Personally. In my corner and 458 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: animal rankings, I had him third, actually, because it's always 459 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: darkest before the Dawn, dark night, and I think that 460 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: this is going to be a team that climbs up 461 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: off the mat when they get healthier and and Ryan, 462 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: the offensive line starts playing a little better, which it will, 463 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: I think, and Ryan gets more comfortable. But at the 464 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: same time, if you're just looking at from from a 465 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: two week perspective, absolutely can make the case that this 466 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: is a quartered animal without a pulse. It is a 467 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: corner animal. I think there's a pulse because this is 468 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: sort of the Frank Reich way. They started three and 469 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: five a year ago and I was counting them out 470 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: and then they rolled back to eight, at six at 471 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: one point. But I also look at with the two 472 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: games they played and after all the summary Conversation About 473 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and what he brings and how much better 474 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: he is than Carson Wentz. If you had to take 475 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: the two games you got from Matt Ryan and the 476 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: two Games we've seen from Carson Wentz, I know which 477 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: quarterback I'd like better. But the problem is Carson Wentz 478 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: back into this colts offense with a bad line. You're 479 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: missing Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor did nothing last game. Matt 480 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: Ryan is running around throwing or awful picks, not seeing 481 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: the field, looking like he wants a long vacation. I 482 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: don't like the situation for Matt Ryan at all. Carson 483 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Wentz right now, by the way, leads the NFC in 484 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: passing yards and touchdowns. The NFL in touchdowns, he's tied 485 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: for the League a little bit of well so Matt 486 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: Ryan has one touchdown, which is also Fugazi in the 487 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: other directions bad. Yeah, I read Um the tweet from 488 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: another sixty percent g Greg Doyle, who to me is 489 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: uh one of the great local columnists in the Greg 490 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: twitter a long time. He writes for the Indie Star 491 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: and can't even get a follow on twitter. He said 492 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: he's tired of writing how much he likes the colts 493 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: coach in general manager, and it's time to grow up. Gentlemen, 494 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: look in the Mirror. What are you doing? Moment it's 495 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: not dot, dot dot, and then I click and you've 496 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: got to be a subscriber, so I don't know what 497 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: it's not um and he also said like they can't 498 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: pretend that everyone's like how I actually feel. Psych and 499 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: article that there greg should help with Greg. They're they're 500 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: facing like serious heat, so they should feel like cornered animals. 501 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: But this team, I think, more than any team, should 502 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: have felt like that coming into the season. They certainly 503 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: should have felt like like it going back to the 504 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: scene of the crime in Jacksonville to come out that 505 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: flat not making any farm noises. But what did we 506 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: think that? That's just a cow. That's the cow. A 507 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: cult is a horse coming back did Jacksonville and get 508 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: shut out. They're playing like cow. That's Gus Bradley's defense, 509 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: by the way, plays the opposite of a corner like 510 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: a corner animal. It's just like hey, you want to 511 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: have an eight yard game, sure, just go for it. 512 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: All days. Just suggested that would be the case with 513 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's defense. But the cults living their own universe. 514 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 1: A week sixteen, because you're gonna know my answer by 515 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: the way I set it up. Are the colts within 516 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: a game of first place in the AFC south? They 517 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: always do this, but I mean they're only half a 518 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: game out right now. They play in the worst division. 519 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Yes or no? I think there'll be three games behind 520 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Then they are a dead quartered animal. I 521 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: think highly of the Jaguars. Well, either way, if they're three, 522 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: if they're three games Jaguars, they're they're in trouble, no 523 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: matter why. Even if the Jaguars are ten and five, 524 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: that means they're don you have no integrity. If the 525 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: owner said what he said about the team losing to 526 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville the end last season and ship Carson Wentz out 527 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: of town and what we just saw now, the owners 528 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: cool with that? I mean I think the thing could 529 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: be set on fire for a month or now, like 530 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: nineteen one George Steinburn or stuff going on in that 531 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: building right now with Jim er say he must be 532 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: completely house fires. Probably. Probably that all. It all rolls downhill. 533 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: The anxiety, a don stress that's probably sitting with that 534 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff, with the general manager, goes down to the roster. 535 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what they do. A Lot. They had 536 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: four pressures in that game. They have the chiefs this week. 537 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of confusion. Like next Gen stats 538 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: measures separation from the receivers and I guess if you're 539 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: looking at Ashton Dolan as your number one receiver, it 540 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't surprise you that they had by far the least 541 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: separation of any receivers in the league last week. Matt 542 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: Ryan has gone to a much worse situation right now, 543 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: which was not supposed to be what was this was 544 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: supposed to be my team. The colts, were supposed to 545 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: deliver on all of their promises. Certainly didn't, and when 546 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: I was looking at these rankings I kept flipping the 547 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: colts and the titans. I couldn't quite well, those are 548 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: your bottom two teams in D v O a through 549 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: two weeks, the to Wurst teams in football, and it's important. 550 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe we should have been doing it earlier, 551 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna Start doing it now. If you're talking 552 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: about a corner and animal game, like, what is their 553 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: path out of the corner? The Path out of the 554 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: corner is not good for the cults they had. They 555 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: host the chiefs right now, uh, coming up on Sunday. 556 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: Then they host the titans, which we'll get to in 557 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: a second. Somebody's gotta Win and somebody's gotta lose that. 558 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Then they go to Denver, which who knows. Then you 559 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: have Jacksonville, then you go to Tennessee. So it's like 560 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: they gotta figure it out now. A F C south 561 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: is the path, the idea that eight or nine wins 562 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: will keep you within that one game going in two weeks. 563 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Let's work under the idea. And who knows, football is 564 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: funny that way, that the chiefs take care of business. 565 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you're own three with an almost 566 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: equally desperate titans team, potentially that the only way they're 567 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: dead is if they yeah, oh, that's right. Also, can 568 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: I like if you if you're oh in two and 569 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: the way that you got to own two was, um, 570 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: in a drab fashion, tie the Texans. That get blanked. 571 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: How many shutouts even exist anymore? Twenty to nothing by 572 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. You are in two sees. Once they scored 573 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: zero points, they should have made a mow into number 574 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: three on the cornered animal power rankings, which is not 575 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: to be confused with the NFL power rankings out right now. 576 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: On the podcast with colleen and I, the Tennessee Titans. Yes, 577 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: nineteen points, so three points ahead of the cult. So 578 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: as a group we believe the titans are in slightly 579 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: better what is a titan anyway? Slightly better shape. And 580 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: again you can check out justin in full morning mode 581 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: on the Monday night football recap with Greg. But Justin 582 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: does this feel to you? Um, I know you weren't 583 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: involved with the vector voting here, but does this feel 584 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: like a fair spot or overly generous? Where do you 585 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: come in on the titans where they are right now? 586 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: I think it's fair. UH, titans twitter is in full 587 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: meltdown mode, which happens when you lose. I'm not getting 588 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: any tweets from titans fans. Yeah, I feel like you 589 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: could spike on them, honestly, but you're you're above that. 590 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: So and you know traylon barks has not been the problem. 591 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: There no traylon. You know what? Ted Hill hasn't been 592 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: the problem. He too. He threw a pretty bad interception 593 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: last night, but that was sort of desperation. The game's over. 594 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: The offensive line, which was the biggest concern about the 595 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: team coming into the season, has been bad. Run blocking, bad, 596 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: past protection poor. The titans gave up a ton of 597 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: pressure last night, even though they only took two sacks, 598 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: which is a credit to Tannehill. The defense does not 599 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: look good. They're very injured already. Harold Landry's loss felt, 600 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: was very felt last night. Christian Fulton didn't play, but 601 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: dupre left in the first quarter. It was a bad game. 602 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan likely done for the year. So offensive line 603 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: gets worse. Five of the most important players on their team. 604 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: It's very tough. The outlook for the titans right now 605 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: is not good. Um, so it is what it is. 606 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it's I'm fine. You know, I am emotionally detached 607 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: from this. Everyone's emotionally detached. Literally a website. Everybod break 608 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: with that. I mean, I am I am ready for 609 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: you know what, this is my my real overreaction is that, 610 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry was fun, but it's time who evolved 611 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: into a modern NFL offense, because when Derrick Henry is 612 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: shut down, thirteen carries for twenty five yards or whatever 613 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: he had last night, the whole offense is is completely 614 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't move at all. So I thought it was 615 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: notable in that game and I'm guessing you guys might 616 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: have talked about it, so we don't need to dwell 617 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: on it. But like when the game started to get 618 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: away from them because they don't have a j Brown, 619 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: because they don't really have a passing game that they 620 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: have figured out yet, they're still giving it to Derrick 621 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Henry and it's like, I understand why you're doing it, 622 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: because he's your dude, but it just shows that they 623 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: were just kind of in a different weight class than 624 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: the bills, which was not when it's also not worth game, 625 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: like Henry is not running um effectively. I think he's 626 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: actually looked like he has plenty of juice, I think, 627 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: any better than he did at the end of last season. 628 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: I had them number two, though, because of institutional history 629 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: here that tightens remind me a lot of the Patriots, 630 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: probably more than any other organization. That's sort of been 631 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: a patriots offshoot and that they are figuring things out 632 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: and I think they can probably them solved and that 633 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: the whole is usually better than the some of their parts, 634 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of animalistic, Nice, you know, 635 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: institute inside of them. You know what I mean. They're 636 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna fight. Their team is not gonna go down easy 637 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: and it might take a little while. It's a long 638 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: NFL season, but I think they're going to get out 639 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: of that corner somehow. You're in the perfect division. And 640 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: also I wouldn't really want to be anyone using the 641 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: bills as a measuring stick. And that game got away 642 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: from them in a rowdy environment. Like the look on 643 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: Rabel's face about eight minutes into that thing was like 644 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: they're out of here. They're such a small, you know, 645 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: margin between being in this segment or not and being 646 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: in O and two and not. And like almost all 647 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: of these teams had like one flukey play go against 648 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: them in one of their losses. Not like the titans 649 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: look great against the giants, but you know, you had 650 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: a bad had some bad luck in that game. You 651 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: end up losing it and it feels a lot worse 652 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: than into who are the Ad Wizards in the NFL 653 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: Home Office that had the titans and colts play both 654 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: their matchup by week seven. I was gonna say I'm 655 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: looking forward to the December matchup where it's really packed tight, 656 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: as much as you you're like, Oh, it's the AFC south, 657 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever. That would be fun because I want 658 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: to see I think both those teams potentially are going 659 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: to be in the mix still in that division, unless 660 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: the Jaguars do get hot and become something. I think 661 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: they've foreseen that the Jaguars will be the story, not 662 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: the same old cults titans matchup, and that's why they 663 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: put titans jags week eighteen, battle for the division. And Yeah, 664 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: I just okay, maybe they, maybe they, maybe they're playing 665 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: chess here, maybe they've galaxy brain this thing, and it 666 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: was like, I know the Jaguars have been the worst 667 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: team in football two years in a row, but now 668 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: let's get them into a big spot. We'll see, but 669 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: it's just weird that you have both these games knocked 670 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: out by week seven. Realistically it was a bad move. 671 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: I just love how much titans and colts fans hate 672 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: each other. So that's why I wanted a late season 673 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: game like that. Rivalry is so stick do a Thursday 674 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: night game in the middle of December like it's you know, 675 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: you check some boxes and it's gonna have big division ramifications. 676 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 1: Seems like a gimme, I mean or flip side. Both 677 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: teams actually do stink and let's get this over with 678 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: sooner than later, because it will matter in late December. 679 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: Number two. It was pretty close, but not you know, 680 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: it didn't come down to one voter. The raiders, the 681 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: silver and Black Raiders, very disappointing star and going to uh, 682 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: coming off a narrow loss to the chargers in week one, 683 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: uh here in L A, and then they go and 684 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: bring the cardinals into their building and go up, I 685 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: think it was twenty nothing at the half and then 686 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: melt down and blow that game. Um, I think. Did 687 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: anybody have the raiders as their most no, everyone had 688 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: them two or three. Um, Greg, why did you? What 689 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: do you what are your feelings about the raiders? To 690 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: me that this feels like something even though the division 691 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: is tough, they can they can handle this, but they 692 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: just got to get a dub. They gotta get the 693 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: club DUB quickly. Yeah, I believe in in Derek Carr 694 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: playing better overall than he has through two weeks, I believe, 695 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: in the defense looking more compton overall. That said that, 696 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: that sort of collapse, it was jarring. We tend to 697 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 1: like put more weight in some way on like Oh, 698 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: they look so dominant in the first half, like that 699 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: was the real raiders. Well, no, you got dominated just 700 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: as much in the second half and made a lot 701 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: of mental errors and it wasn't a flukey comeback. It 702 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 1: was right. The offense totally struggled in the defense totally struggled. 703 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: That's how you blow a twenty point lead. So there 704 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: there are like it like inside the building, concerns, but 705 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: I think the players are pretty good right. That's why 706 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: I had him third. I only had them third. Adam 707 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: behind the titans. I trusted the titans as an organization 708 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: where but I just think talent wise, raids play on 709 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: PM Eastern in Nashville. Is that a loser goes home. 710 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: That's a cornered animal. There is a cornered animal showdown. 711 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: Only one animal comes out alive. This has been Dan's 712 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: UH thing for years. There animal, the cornered animal, has 713 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: been my corner right west. Would get very excited for 714 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: the corner animals, the TV, within the TV, within the TV, 715 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: with this game early on Thursday. Yeah, I have the 716 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: second overall pick in our draft. Yes, so go ahead, 717 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: take graids, take, but mark sessler holds all the cards. 718 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: I will tell you now. You'RE gonna be watching that 719 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: game if you want to. Okay, I feel power. It 720 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: doesn't attract me the way it attracts you. It's like 721 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: I call yes, let me take a look at this schedule. Yeah, 722 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: at Tennessee home, Denver, at Kansas City and then the 723 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: by they gotta figure out a way to win two 724 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: of those three. You're gonna be okay. I want to 725 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: believe that they are the team that played in the 726 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: first half of that game and not the team that 727 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: completely fell apart in the second half, but I think 728 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: they're both. It's the overtime position. was a hunter, renfro fumble, 729 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: Derek Carr up for grabs ball where he badly missed 730 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 1: his target, Duvante Adams, who did nothing in that game. Uh, 731 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: and then another hunter, Renfro UH fumble, scooped and scored. Well, 732 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: I think it was this too. That's pretty rough. Like 733 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: the cardinals shifted into like cornered animal sooner than these teams. 734 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: Their season was going away and they were looking at 735 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: the end to put baby in a corner. They broke 736 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: out and became what they are, like, I think, like 737 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: you saw, like Kyler Murray's nucleus explode in the second 738 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: half of that thing and like they they caught the 739 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: raiders by surprise. Now the raiders who spent all ofb 740 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: scene saying you're overlooking at US like we're the team 741 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: that no one believes and well, you're own to go 742 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: win a game, win a ball game. I mean that's 743 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: the rare cornered animal at halftime of week two. We 744 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: don't want to be sometimes we come out at the corner. 745 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: Like I was looking for some sound effects before the 746 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: show and I got sucked into a youtube video of 747 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: an animal control officer putting the old the long stick 748 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: thing with the hook to grab a coyote who was 749 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: literally cornered in the backyard. and Um, this is what 750 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 1: you were doing before the show? Yeah, no, that's why. 751 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 1: That's why I was like getting to the studio and uh, 752 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: he pulled it in and threw it into the truck. 753 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: was really impressive. Maybe I'll tweet it out. Um, but 754 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: this guy. This is the version of the cardinals. Like 755 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: being led. Here comes the guy with the hook, with 756 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: the hoop thing. They said no, they want to know 757 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: part of that. You're not putting me in the cage. 758 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: Look at that. That's a good mentality. It worked for them. 759 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: Number One, the bengals. Um, listen, we have a soft 760 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: spot in our heart for this team. Obviously Chris westling 761 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: his boyhood team before he emotionally detached. I guess we 762 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: all do, because there's a lot of emotional detachment of well, 763 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: maybe you need to look in the mirror. Maybe. I mean, 764 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: he never claims it. If anything, he embraces the attachment rights. 765 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: That's who I am. I can't I can't go away, 766 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: but you want other people to change. That's my concern. 767 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: I want you to do what you want to know. 768 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: That is I am simply pointing out that there's a 769 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: lot of emotional detachment around this. There's some edge to point. 770 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,479 Speaker 1: Paul Rudd understands it, even Greg even Greggy. He goes 771 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: on national television and D says I used to be 772 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: a fan until you know, I became professional, which is 773 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: a lie. But it's an emotional detachment as well. Why 774 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: did you say? You said emotionally about not emotionally detachment 775 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: the jets, even though I should probably be wise. I 776 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: mean I think everyone's situation is different, and now you're 777 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: just sticking everyone in the same bucket as these people 778 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: are attachment. It's hard to love in the same way 779 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: that you did uh as a child, um, because I 780 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: after incredible you know, and historical success. Again, just like 781 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: mark's expressing like like how you feel is how you feel. 782 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: I was merely pointing out there's been a lot of 783 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: emotional detachment that Syah. I see that too, though I 784 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: think everyone it makes sense. When you're in the sports media, 785 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: it's tough. Everything's connected and you want to at least 786 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: try to create that, that barrier. So for me it's 787 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: more protection, to protect myself. So I try just keep 788 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: like an arms distance. Sometimes I'm with you. I could 789 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: care less in sports media. I know what you're saying 790 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: about other people, but I thought what made our show 791 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: special actually was that we actually openly rooted for certain teams, 792 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: and I'm pointing out that Chris wessing also detached emotionally 793 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: from his team and put a lot of thought into it. 794 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: WHO ARE NUMBER ONE? They are number one in the 795 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: cornered animal power rankings. Brings it right back to the ranking. 796 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: How could they not be? Because they're the defending a 797 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: F C champions, like we're not going to quit on 798 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: them after two weeks. Right, no way. There are Bengal Tigers. 799 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean, which animal out of all these actual animals? 800 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose the panthers, like maybe it's like 801 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: a panther mythological, you know, being led by Baker Mayfield 802 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: and Matt rule, or a panther being led by Joe Burrow. 803 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,959 Speaker 1: I mean a tiger. I'm going with the time. Yeah, 804 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: very concerning. But the blocking front that could be sending 805 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: right the Bengal on track eleven times this season is 806 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 1: not good for led by Zach Taylor, who's like should 807 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: I go for the Green Polo or the Black Polo today? 808 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: What does that mean? I know what I mean. I 809 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: think I know what I mean. Well, I would like 810 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: an elaboration on that. I mean I think he's going 811 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: for a certain tone. You're going for a vibe. Yeah, 812 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: that's just that's how I see Zach Taylor. He's always 813 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: just kind of looking like he's going out for like 814 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: eighteen holes at the local municipal. He doesn't have a 815 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: cool black bomber jacket. That's not so. We talked about 816 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: that when he was hired, that he just he's not 817 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: bringing a lot to the table. That's fine. Coaches win 818 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl sometimes the average, average coaches when the 819 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: super bowl. There's lots of things that go into winning 820 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Chance being probably up there and they 821 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: and they had some. You're saying he's a simpleton. No, 822 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying he's not bringing a lot of Verve, 823 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of he doesn't just come after you, 824 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: he comes after Greg too. It's equal opportunities. So I'm 825 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: well aware at this point. But I compared to Mike, 826 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: compared to Mike Rabow or or some of these other 827 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: coaches here, is he? Is he feeling like a cornered coach, 828 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: or is he making excuses about while those thirteen sex 829 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: aren't as bad as you think, just just fix it. 830 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: It's been four years before, with the line issues down 831 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: the stretching in the playoffs, there was no ability to 832 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: other teams can do that and they went and got 833 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: these guys in. The line is worse. So there's some 834 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 1: void there in the teaching, instructional part of our team. 835 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: That's a good point you made, Mark. Yeah, that's a 836 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: great point. Mark. That's a good point. Mark. How long, 837 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: that much longer are we doing this? That's it. There 838 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: it is, the cornered animal power rankings. We believe their 839 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: defense is good. We should get I'm not worried about 840 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm not that worried about the bengals at all. Close 841 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: the show them the actual subconscious. We didn't give them 842 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: any real football adalysis. We talked about his shirts. I 843 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to make it gonna get plenty of analysis 844 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: on Cincinnati, who go to the meadowlands to face the 845 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: jets in week three. Then their home against the dolphins, 846 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,240 Speaker 1: which all of a sudden it seems like a Frisky 847 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: game in prime time, by the way, Thursday night football. 848 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: Then they go to Baltimore, then they go to New Orleans. 849 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, when you didn't get grab a W in 850 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: those first two weeks, I talked about it all the 851 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: time on the show. The schedule makers set things up 852 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: for a reason. They figured that you were going to 853 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: beat the steelers at home in week one. They said, oh, 854 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: they could a good chance, they could take care of 855 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 1: business against Dallas. So they're either one in one or two. 856 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: And Oh, when we send them on the Gauntlet section 857 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: of their schedule, will you take two else? Oh, that's 858 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 1: how you end up a cornered animal. And don't overlook 859 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: the jets. Thank you. It's another great point, building a 860 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: bridge with the host smart. I uh. I think we 861 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: should take a break, hit the Thursday night football preview 862 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 1: and then tie up a loose end. All right, welcome back. 863 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,240 Speaker 1: Let's get to the first game on the week three 864 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: docket now, and it is, oh it's a spicy one, 865 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 1: an a F C north showdown in Cleveland, Pittsburgh steelers 866 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: against the browns. And a reminder, this TNF preview is 867 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: presented by Prime Video, the new exclusive home for Thursday 868 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: night football. MMM, mm hmmm. Now, as I promised on 869 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: Sunday show or hinted, I was going to, for the 870 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: first time, sit down with my boys and watch a 871 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: jets game, and I did it this morning. We watched 872 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: the end of the jets browns game and it was outrageous. 873 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: Um actually kind of just soaking it in. The browns 874 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: had six different points in that game, from one to 875 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: the end of the game, where they could have won 876 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: the game just by executing on a very simple scale, 877 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: and yet against the jets of all teams, they found 878 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: a way to lose this game. So now here they 879 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: are with a chance to get back on track. There 880 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: in their building, Mark Sessler. But the steelers are a 881 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: familiar nemesis. I like the matchup for Cleveland, I think. 882 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: Number One, you've got a steeler's offensive line that is 883 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: a mess and you've got miles Garrett, who is playing 884 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: at defensive player of the year levels right now. Dev 885 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: and Clowney made a big play in the jets game 886 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: before that thing went totally south. That right there says 887 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: problems from Chard Robinsky. The steeler's offense is one of 888 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: the most limited offenses I've watched in a long time. 889 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the throw chart of 890 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: where Drabinsky has been throwing the ball, it looks like 891 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: a pop warner game to me, with someone who's just 892 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: learning to put the ball in the air. They're not 893 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 1: using their weapons. And I think you've got Cleveland Secondary 894 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: is going to be annoyed after what happened last game. 895 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland is the best rush team in the League right now. 896 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: They don't have t j Watton Pittsburgh. I don't think Cleveland, 897 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: despite Jacoby Perscid, who played pretty well last week, there's 898 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: not really an excuse to lose this game at home. Well, 899 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: I think the excuse might be they're just banged up. 900 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: CLOWNEY is out for this game. Miles Garrett missed practice 901 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: and they said we'll see whether he plays. I believe 902 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: you finished Garrett's gonna play. I think he finished the game. 903 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: But they also lost chase winovitch, who's, in theory, their 904 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: third rusher. There there thin there. I do think the 905 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: St suffered a lower leg injury that so he might 906 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: not be himself right now and he already is not 907 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: a big mobile guy. The browns is not on the 908 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: injury report. Offensive Line has been the best unit that's 909 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: in this game, despite some concerns going into the season. 910 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean they are getting it done. I do think 911 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: we've reached kind of the tipping point with the steelers 912 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: not throwing a deep ever, that the fact everyone's talking 913 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: about it as the only point this week and then 914 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: and there's some grumbling that they're gonna at least try 915 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: to do it. Deonte Johnson said we can only do 916 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: what they tell us to do and execute it. UH, 917 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: Claypole said, we have claypole said we have to call 918 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: the right plays to get down the field in the 919 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: right ways. Even even Mitchell Robinsky sounded like he was like, Hey, man, 920 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: I just work here, I'm calling the plays that are 921 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: that are asked. And so we said. They're arguing in 922 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: the huddle with each other. Right, it's a mess. It's 923 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: some ugliness concert in there. One and one, which you 924 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: would have taken if you're the steelers going into the season, 925 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: and I think this could be a case where all 926 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: that chatter forces them to throw it deep, and ultimately 927 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: that's a good idea. The best chance they have is 928 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: just throw up some passes to their playmakers. It happen 929 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: for the steelers, is Miss Robinski throwing the ball deep, 930 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: compared to what it can be, worse than what they're 931 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: doing with you on that, but I don't think that's 932 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: the quarter. I'll tell you one thing. CLEVELAND, for as 933 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: long as I've watched them, have one special power, and 934 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: it's not the power that helps them. They are the 935 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: team that consistently fields massive debuts by players that become 936 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: legendary players, and I think this is a perfect time 937 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 1: at the midpoint for Kenny Pickett to come in and 938 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: change every and do what you're talking about. You're with 939 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: all the steelers fans. There were so many penny pick 940 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: a chance and Mike Tomlin said that, oh, he didn't 941 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: hear it, of course, like Rabinsky was like yeah, it 942 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: is what it is kind of deal. But if JOE 943 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: FLACCO was able to do that on the Brown Secondary, Hey, 944 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, why not let Mitch Try and throw it? 945 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: Has So many things to clean up, so many miscommunications, 946 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 1: so many misques like that is what led to their demise. 947 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: The next closest team in terms of like yardage allowed 948 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: on bow blown plays has like a third as many. 949 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: There's two and fifty yards. Their offense is actually ranked 950 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: much higher than it was a year ago, dv. It's 951 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: just dv O eight's two weeks it's the running game. 952 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: They've had like a top seven or eight offense and 953 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: their defense has not shown up considering the talent they have, 954 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: with the exception that his last throw, the interception, played 955 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: very well last week. In general, the meltdown was almost unprecedented. 956 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: What happened the last two minutes, but for fifty eight 957 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: minutes it kind of went the way you would inc 958 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: and it was like a Cleveland team. That again to 959 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: the point where they're putting up the graphics. That was 960 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: the other thing mark when he was watching the game today, 961 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: putting up the graphics of the last two and Oh 962 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 1: start Jurassic Park was number one of the box office 963 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: Milli Vanilli had to hit. It was just like they 964 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 1: played well last week until everything felt of the browns 965 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: week one game, exact same thing happened and they because 966 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: they had a good kicker who finished it off. They 967 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: won it, but the defense kind of gave it up. 968 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: More thing, I could see them having similar success with 969 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: the blueprint if Brissette can avoid turnovers and had that 970 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: great running game. Um, I think they they're my pick 971 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: in this game. I'M NOT gonna lock it up, but 972 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: I also wonder. It's gonna be interesting to see Connie. 973 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is his own dude, but he's never really 974 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: had to deal with this quarterback conundrum like this in 975 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: his life because as a head coach with the in 976 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: the NFL, with Ben Roethlisberger the way he was for 977 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: years and years. Will he pull the trigger if the offense, 978 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: which has not or three yards. Yet if they're at 979 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty five yards at halftime and Cleveland's 980 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: up thirteen three, maybe it is the day, maybe it 981 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: is time, maybe it is but I don't think that 982 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is a reactionary guy. I think that he's 983 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: someone that has patience and is calculated and we'll see 984 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: things through. But you're right, he doesn't have a ton 985 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: of experience with this either. I think the whole key 986 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: to the game here in Cleveland is whether or not 987 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: Brownie the Elf will be part of it on the 988 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: field the whole season. Yeah, I mean bean, okay, and play. 989 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: That's a new take. Yet there was he like he's 990 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: going to be, and the timing of the game, as 991 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: bad as the ending of the game was for the Browns, 992 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: and Sunday it's nice that they get to get out 993 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: there and if they put together a good performance there 994 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: two in one and you kind of move past the ugliness. 995 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: Let's see if they can do it. It's gonna be 996 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: a slobber knocker. If you like a little fun in 997 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: this game football dork stuff. Jeremiah Cormo is becoming like 998 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,959 Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the league. Just watch 999 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: every single play. Watch where he is. He's always in 1000 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,959 Speaker 1: a different spot and he's like the future of linebackers 1001 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: the way he can move in coverage and move all 1002 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: over the field. He has been the man. All right, 1003 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: that was the t n F preview presented by Prime Video. 1004 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: The new era of Thursday night football is officially here 1005 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: and it's only on prime video. You get the recap 1006 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,240 Speaker 1: of that on the as part of the Friday fund show. Colleen, 1007 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: you're part of the NFL network coverage. So check out Connie. 1008 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 1: She handles that. The anchor. All right, before we say goodbye, 1009 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: your anchor, colleen, uh is your husband of many, many years, 1010 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 1: the Great John Gonzalez of the sports illustrated fame. He 1011 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: has the SI podcast, a man of many talents and 1012 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: now he joins us. This is I said I want 1013 00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 1: here because John, by the way, welcome back to the show, Yang. 1014 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: Always good to see you. CONGRATS on the eagles. Um, 1015 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: you should know at the top of today's show I 1016 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: did check in with Greg because you ethered him on twitter. 1017 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 1: You went viral, uh, and Greg pretended like he didn't 1018 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: even know that he had been ether. I look at 1019 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: it differently. I look at it like a friend that's 1020 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: how that's your my love language with John. You give 1021 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: each other grief. You know that's what he's doing with friends. 1022 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 1: So I didn't consider it an ether the way you positioned. 1023 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 1: Then he took a shot at you for your chains. 1024 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: At that point I felt uncomfortable because I was like, 1025 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: John needs to be here if Greg's gonna be firing 1026 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: off shots like that. Just because Gregg chose not to 1027 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: answer to the tweet, you should still have the option 1028 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,360 Speaker 1: to answer to the chain heat. Uh. So here's your chance. 1029 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: John gonzals versus Greg Rosenthal, cornered animal match. You know, 1030 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: I agree with Greg that you're setting us up to 1031 00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: each other when we love each other. I think your 1032 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: your listeners and uh, that how I feel about you guys. 1033 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: Certainly people on twitter who see US interact. No, but 1034 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 1: just in case, because we did get a lot more 1035 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: people involved with that tweet than I anticipated. Like I 1036 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: showed up to colleen before I tweeted it and she 1037 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: said that's funny and I had said and then it 1038 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: was just a million people in and Rosie's mentioned. So 1039 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,439 Speaker 1: apologies for that, Rosie, but just to make it clear, 1040 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: I love Rosie. He's my brother, as all of you 1041 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: guys are. But sometimes, when you come for Philadelphia and 1042 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: you want to behave your shame, you get what you 1043 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: ask for. It don't want none. Don't start none. I 1044 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 1: wanted it. That's why I got enough problems. Like I 1045 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: feel so good about that extra G in my name. Like, 1046 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: like you, you could never rock my foundation of how 1047 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: vital and necessary and important that extra G is. It's 1048 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,960 Speaker 1: really a huge part of who I am, John Always. 1049 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 1: But that's that's the irony here. As I know that 1050 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: Greg loves his Jeez. I love Jeez too. I honestly 1051 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: didn't think anything of it. I figured Rosie would see it, 1052 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: laugh and roll his eyes at me being stupid, and 1053 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: that would be and from my vantage point. Yeah, but 1054 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: Philadelphia had other ideas well. It's fine, I love I 1055 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: love Philly. I like I picked the eagles to win 1056 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl here. But philly does sometimes try to 1057 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: have it both ways. It's like, Hey, we're fun, we 1058 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: like to make jokes, and then when you just throw 1059 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: in a silly joke, it's not like I was like 1060 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: coming after the core of WHO Philadelphia is as a human. 1061 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: It was just a silly joke. This feels this is 1062 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: unnecessary and they take it, they take it inside their 1063 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 1: heart and, like some people got very upset, but you know, 1064 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: twitter is gonna be a bit sure about it and 1065 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 1: think about it on that level of NUANCECP. And and 1066 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: to Greg's comment that you perhaps are too old to 1067 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: have chains, John, uh, yeah, I mean, you know what, 1068 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with WHO I am at my age and uh, 1069 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, I rocked that chain with pride. You know, 1070 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 1: my dad gave me that chains. So that Greg, that 1071 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: you picked it up in Greece. You know that I admires. Yeah, 1072 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: but he came as a compliment when I was talking 1073 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: about how how John like came to get together really, 1074 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, casual but well dressed, when it was like 1075 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: next level and everyone I was saying what I was 1076 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 1: impressed by it, Um and I was saying like, Oh, 1077 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm a little too underdressed here, right, and it was 1078 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,919 Speaker 1: really the chain that dresses it up. What your take 1079 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: is on this, then you're actually old to wear a chain, though. Okay, 1080 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: that's that's if you can pull it off, John Ken, 1081 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: he can definitely. I don't think I could, and it's 1082 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: also late to add it like if I, if you, 1083 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,479 Speaker 1: if I was always a chain guy. That's one thing 1084 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: if you're ADA and you're nobody knows that here. A 1085 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: chain guy, though, because you could have just like happened 1086 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: under your look. I don't see Gonzo is putting himself 1087 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: into these age categories where he hits he hits forties, 1088 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,560 Speaker 1: so suddenly he has to remove eighty elements from his 1089 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: life and become like every other four year Olgo a 1090 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: Gonzo does. He places his own trip like that always, 1091 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: colleen knows, we've discussed this many times. Got To be 1092 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: your own person in this world. So train, no chain, 1093 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: as long as you're comfortable being you. That's good. An 1094 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: unbelievable appearance here, taking the high road. Beautiful. All right, 1095 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: that's it for today's show. Next time you hear from 1096 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: us it will be what John didn't have to be 1097 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: thrown off the show like. Yeah, that was all fun done. 1098 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm never speaking to you again. That was it. We'll 1099 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: be back Thursday with a full preview of every week 1100 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: three game to come, so make sure you check that out. 1101 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: Check out the power rank this podcast, check out the 1102 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: QB index, check out the game debut program and, yeah, yeah, 1103 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: what day mark? I know it's Thursday, September. It's nine 1104 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: days from now. So I know math is not your thing, 1105 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: but this is for me. It's in nine days. It's 1106 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: next Thursday. You could come see us in London in 1107 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: nine days. Where we go with the cut out of myself? 1108 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: We are working on it. That can I not even 1109 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: get a cut out there in production. That is the word, 1110 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: the corporate jargon, efforting cut out it colleen Wolf for England. Alright, 1111 00:59:30,120 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 1: Thursday he the call s