1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at Pacificoffice dot com. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: J J. Watt in the backfield j J. Watt, Baby 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Hunter to the ten, to the five and end of 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the end zone for the touchdown. Welcome to Cardinals Underground, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacificoffice dot com. Problem 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: solved touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces. 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: All that was nasty. Writer writes the latest news and 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: notes from the insiders who cover the team. Drilled by Simmons. 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is balling, Bring it on, Bring it on. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Swim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield, pink skirt and nobody. Here's 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Paul Caldc. I should have known something was going to 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: go down in Seattle when I reached into my bag 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: for two things sunglasses in sunscreen. In many years or so, 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: never before have we needed those two items in Seattle. 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: So you knew something wacky was about to happen. And 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: or what's up global warming? Maybe it's maybe it's good 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: global warming. Help the Cardinals offense at this point. That's 20 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: the initial question here off the top, maybe yeah, exactly, 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: maybe the rising tide of heat that lifts all boats, 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: including a Cardinal's offense, and needs to defrost a little 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: bit here on Cardinals Underground. There's the intro that we 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: all needed. It was impressive. He made that work. Paul 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: about that, like you mean, because I kept cutting him 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: off and see somehow tide and global warming. I really 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: had no choice because yeah, Darren was just very intrusive 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: at that moment. But here we are, we're often rolling. 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: All brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. Cardinals are 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: two and four as we speak, and just a matter 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: of hours until the next game is on the schedule 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Thursday night football. So no real time to think about 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: what just went down unless you're doing a podcast like 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: the three of us, And yes, we will break it down. Danny, 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Where would you like to start? That's a good question. 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Let's start with the defense. Okay, all right, there you go. 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: The fact that they've now held their last four opponents 38 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: to know more than twenty points a piece, winning football. 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: I think we would all agree, maybe the only thing 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: will agree on the entirety of this podcast, right, I 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: would agree with that. Yeah, I thought that once again 42 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: there were good spots in the defense. Again, another week 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: of containing the key opponents and Tyler Lockett and DK 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: Metcalf combined for just four carry, four catches and fifty 45 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: one yards. Now the rookie Kenneth Walker the third put 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: up almost a hundred yards on the ground, so that 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: was a problem in stopping the run. However, it was 48 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: a second straight week that a defensive player not named 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: JJ Watt was dynamic and was making plays, and that's 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: a good sign. It looked like the defense was coming 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: alive with sacks from Zaven Collins, Marcus Golden, cam Thomas, 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: my J Sanders, and that to me was a bright spot. 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Of of course, you know JJ Watt's gonna make plays. 54 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: Him and Zach Allen are going to be disruptive, but 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the fact that you had other guys actually taking advantage 56 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: of that and really coming home and capitalizing on that 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: was good for me when looking at the defense. Then again, 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: at the very end, they gave up a drive, a 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: scoring drive that proved to be pretty instrumental, sort of 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: like the end of the Philly game where they gave 61 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: up the seven play seventy yard drive took nearly eight 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: minutes off the clock. So, as Vance Joseph told the 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: media last week, that's the next step to, you know, 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: to be that defense that in the clutch times is 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: big time and is able to turn the tide of 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: a game. They're not quite there yet. They're playing well 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: enough to at least be a five hundred team, but 68 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's definitely succeeded expectations. Put it that way, 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: based on what most people thought the Cardinals defense was 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: going to be all about coming into this season, no question, 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: And I think that, I mean, they, yeah, they needed 72 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: to get that stop in the end. And you know, 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins was saying that in the locker room afterwards 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: when we were talking, because obviously the narrative in the 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: locker room is about the defense playing well and the 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: offense can't do anything with it. And you know, Zaven 77 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Collins is like, but we have to play better. We 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: have to help the offense even more. And that last drive, 79 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the next last drive or whatever was that's a great 80 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: example where they cut at twelve nine. Yeah, the offense 81 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: still isn't doing anything, but you you've got a chance 82 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: there and then you let the Seahawks go down and 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: get a touchdown and make it a two score game. Again, 84 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: that's where it's really tough. But when you start saying, 85 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, this defense is better than it was. I 86 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: saw a guy who he's in he's on football Twitter. 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: He was a one time scout or something, or he's 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: an amateur scout or he's one of these guys that 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: does like scouting of the college things, and he was 90 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: talking about the Cardinals, saying, the Cardinals are in a 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: bad shape right now. And he talked a little bit 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: of the offense and he said, and they need a 93 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: whole new defense. And I'm like, I sent it to 94 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: somebody I knew, and I said, you know, tell me, 95 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: tell me that you haven't seen the Cardinals defense without 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: saying you haven't seen the Cardinals defense. And that was it. 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand that they don't have any big names, 98 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: and I understand that they aren't the best defense in 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: the league. But again, as you mentioned, when you're giving 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: up twenty points a game and this day and age, 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: and on the other side of the ball, you have 102 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league and 103 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: some offensive talent that should work. Twenty points a game 104 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: should win you a lot of football games. I mean, 105 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: you want to boil it down. The Cardinals defense is 106 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: doing more with less. The Cardinals offense is doing less 107 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 1: with more, just based on the finances alone, just based 108 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: on the salaries invested on either side. By the way, 109 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: speaking to the whole offense versus defense, did Zaban mentioned 110 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: to the media, because he did in our postgame radio 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: interview that that was basically the message from JJ Watt 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: after the game. It was like, Hey, let's let's stay together. 113 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: Nothing we do as individuals will really matter as much. 114 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: If we're going to do it, we need to do 115 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: it together as a team. And I'm guessing reading between 116 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: the lines that don't let the media come in here 117 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: and ask pesky questions about offense is bad and defense 118 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: is good. So you don't want to go through the 119 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan years again. Were you here for the Buddy 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Ryan yet the very end? Okay area end. I was 121 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: here at the very end of the Buddy Ryan ears. 122 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: In fact, we did a story that I'm not proud 123 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: of at Channel five back in the day and we 124 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: reviewed his initial press conference upon introduction. There was the 125 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: famous line Danny you got a winner in town, which 126 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: is what he did. He walked up to the podium 127 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: and he said, like Rex Rex Ryan, once upon a time, right, 128 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan said, you got a winner in town. Boom 129 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: any Right, So then we went back and said, well 130 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: maybe he said like, I don't know, you got a 131 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: swimmer in town like that was when Friends was big 132 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: or you know. Anyways, this stupid story and Buddy Ryan, no, 133 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: it's great, keep going, Yeah, should edit it out. It 134 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: was awful. Um, it was just guy. I guess by 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: what I should have said and not told. The story 136 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: was he was a walking parody and by the end 137 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: of his tenure, everybody just like him. And when I 138 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: say bring out the b because that was a major 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: problem with the Buddy Ryan. First of all, it happened 140 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: in Chicago when the offense struggled, and it was one 141 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons that Mike Dick and Buddy randing it along. 142 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: And it happened to a lesser extent in Philadelphia, and 143 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: it definitely started happening in Arizona, where he built up 144 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: a pretty decent defense and not a great offense and 145 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: then proceeded to kind of stoke that fire himself in 146 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: a lot of ways by turning it against each other, 147 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: and then there's just that natural schism and I'm not 148 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: that's not is what's happening now, you know, Buddha Baker 149 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: was saying, you know, these are our brothers. Everybody in 150 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: this locker room, we're rooting. We're rooting for the offense, 151 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: they're rooting for the defense. And I do think that's true. 152 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: And that said yea, at some point, everybody's a human 153 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: being too, and there's gonna be frustration. Look, doing the 154 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: postgame radio interview, especially in Seattle, that's another story you 155 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: probably don't want to hear, is how you're right next 156 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: to the Kickers locker Literally the patch chord is right there. Now, 157 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: that's true. I've stepped on Jay Feeley over the years, 158 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Phil Dawson, Neil Rackers, Chandler Kens there, yes, and I 159 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: mean there's Cliff Kingsbury and I'm trying to ask a 160 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: question about Matt Amendola, who happens to be three inches 161 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: from the side of me. And it was very awkward. 162 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: But you're also the first media member in there, and 163 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: I can tell you, I mean, guys, it was raw. 164 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Emotions were raw, and I asked the Saving College, just 165 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: an open ended question about the temperature and the room, 166 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: and his quote was, yeah, I think we're all pissed 167 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: quote end quote. And then he said something's got to change. 168 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but something asked to 169 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: change that Saving College is. Now, what can you change 170 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: on the shore week going on Thursday night football? Realistically, 171 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: probably not much. But I don't know if he's talking 172 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: about XS and oas. I don't know. No, I honestly 173 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: don't know what he's referring to. The thing is he's 174 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: not because then I talked to him later and he 175 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: was talking about, like, we don't we don't know, but 176 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: we got to figure it out. And he goes, that's 177 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: really all it is is we got to figure it out. 178 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: But the problem is is when they say we got 179 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: to figure it out, nobody knows what that means. At 180 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: this point, you know, AJ Green sat in his locker 181 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: and said people were asking what the offense and he 182 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: talked about, hey, we have the weapons and we have 183 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the A and that, with all due respect to AJ, 184 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: that sounds a little hollow right now. I mean, at 185 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: some point, and I've said this a million times over 186 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: the years, because you start getting cliches when things start 187 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: going bad. But if you're not playing well, it's either 188 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: you don't have enough talent on the roster, you're coaching 189 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: isn't good, or the players aren't trying hard enough. That's it. Now. 190 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: It might be a combination of those three. But I 191 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: can't think of any other reason why you would consistently struggle. 192 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, feel free to let me know, but it's 193 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: either effort by the players, coaching, or talent. There is 194 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: nothing else. And I guess I'll fill in the blank there. 195 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: I'd say there was a little bit maybe of all 196 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: three in that loss at Seattle. In terms of talent, 197 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: your backup offensive linement didn't fare real well. That's true. Now, 198 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: in terms of effort, you know, I would say there's 199 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: still a problem where if guys don't think they're a 200 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: primary target on a play there, maybe not running the 201 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: play out. There's some of that perhaps. And in terms 202 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: of coaching, well, something changed. Obviously. The Cardinals came out 203 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: on the first two possessions, they had six burst downs, 204 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: they moved the ball, they had second and goal at 205 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: the one, and instead of going straight ahead, which I'm guessing, 206 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line literally wanted to do. Come off the 207 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: ball again. I think a lot of people want to 208 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: see the Cardinals just come off the ball time and again. 209 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: And you got one yard between you and the goal line. 210 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: Why are you moving laterally at all? And why are 211 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: you in the gun in an empty set? Okay? So? 212 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: And then the last element of that, what was the 213 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: last element was just, uh, well, I think we covered 214 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: all the covered all three and I don't I don't. 215 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: I didn't you notice a little bit more being down 216 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: on the sidelines about like I mean, for the most part, 217 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: I feel like the efforts there, something's not Can I 218 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: say this, And I'm gonna make a comparison to two 219 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: when Carson Palmer's first six or seven games he threw 220 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: eight or nine picks and everyone thought Carson Palmer was done. 221 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: I had multiple people saying Drew Stanton should be in 222 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: the starting lineup. It turns out Carson was covering for 223 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: all his receivers who were messing up the offense. That's true. 224 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: They are the wrong spots at the wrong times. He 225 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: was thrown to the spot the receivers are supposed to 226 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: be in. They weren't. He was getting picked off. This 227 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: is just my observation from the sideline. There are different 228 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: guys at different moments, making different mistakes, and it's like 229 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: whack a mole if you're the head coach or you're 230 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Right now, it's whack a mole in terms 231 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: of just small little mistakes from different guys at different times, 232 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: and it's enough to get you beat. And it's enough 233 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: where I think they're actually being honest. We don't know 234 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: the answer because if it's this guy this time and 235 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: that guy next time, and you know, three plays from now, 236 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: there's a false start here or an illegal man down 237 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: field there, or guess what, you dropped a third and 238 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: five and you're at the sticks and you dropped the ball. 239 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there's different errors at different times. So the 240 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: question is is this going to be the pattern you 241 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: see all season? Because at some point the twenty thirteen 242 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: Cardinals figured it out and they started winning games, and 243 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs that year even though they won 244 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: ten games if memory serves. But now, okay, you've got 245 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: a Cardinals team that is still only a game out 246 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: of first place. They played some bad ball, but there's 247 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: still only a game out of first place, and they 248 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: have a defense worthy of making a playoff run at 249 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: least if they can figure out the mental side, especially 250 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: on offense. That's just my observation from the outside looking in. 251 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting because this offense is so similar to the 252 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: offense last year, so many of the same players here 253 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: that found a way to consistently be good throughout the season. Now, 254 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: they did have their skid at the end of the 255 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: season and the playoff game we know, but this team, 256 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: especially the first half of the season, the offense specifically 257 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: was playing well. So I wonder if that's part of 258 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: it is knowing that this offense and this coaching staff 259 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: has meshed well and found success in the past, and 260 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: knowing they can and the frustration of why they're not. 261 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: And I wonder if it's almost like my personal example 262 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: would be like growing up, I was never good at math. 263 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: So you know, you're doing homework and you get stumped 264 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: on an early question, you're frustrated, and then when you 265 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: get stumped on a later question, that frustration just grows, 266 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: and then you're frustrated that you're frustrated. And I wonder 267 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: if that's more what this is mentally, is just the 268 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: frustration is just building up and they can't get past it. 269 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: It's we talked about what some of the issues might be. 270 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: Like Cliff Kingsbury came out and one on the short week, 271 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: and he acknowledged two different times, one in his press 272 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: conference and one on Arizona Sports when he was asked 273 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: directly if he would consider giving up play calling, he 274 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: said I'd consider it. Now he only said I'd consider it. 275 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: And it's one hundred eighty degrees from where he was 276 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when he said he'd retire 277 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: if he ever wasn't being able to play. I'll call 278 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: the plays, and who knows, he might be getting to 279 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: the point where I'm like, Okay, I'll let somebody else 280 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: call the plays and we'll see how this works out. 281 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: And well, and we don't know. We don't know to 282 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: what degree his play calls are being changed in the 283 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage quarterback has free ragin quote unquote according 284 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: to Colmers, So we honestly don't know, do we right, 285 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: how many times are the play calls is he checking 286 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: into something else? He's obviously checking into different plays at 287 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: different times. We can all see that, But how often 288 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: is a call being changed? You know, I'll give you 289 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: an example, like this whole opening drive and first quarter stuff. 290 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: It just seems like this is just me once again 291 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: that they're trying to do a little bit of everything 292 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: on these opening drives instead of maybe sticking with one thing. 293 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: Now this this game in particular, they emphasize Kyler in 294 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: the run game and he ripped off the forty two 295 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: yarder and that seemed to be like their plan, and 296 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: so okay, sometimes maybe just maybe they're trying to get 297 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: a little too complicated, trying to incorporate a little too much, 298 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: and you know, instead of being the master of one thing. 299 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just so, I don't know, but 300 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: it leads See, when we have this sort of non production, 301 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: then it leads all of us to have all these 302 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: theories and wonder about it. And I tell you, minus 303 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, your most reliable receiver. Now he's gonna miss 304 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: at least six games according to the reports, It's gonna 305 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: be on that receiver room big time more than ever 306 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: because to me, Hollywood Brown was the one guy that 307 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray could count on snap in and snap out. Well, 308 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: and we've kind of buried buried the lead a little bit. 309 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: You brought up Brown, who's hurt his foot and he's 310 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna miss six weeks, and I think the buy might 311 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: be in there, so maybe it would only be six, 312 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe it'll only be five games. Who knows, but you 313 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: we talked about the offensive line injuries and Justin Pugh's 314 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: done for the season with an ACL tear. They make 315 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: a trade for Robbie Anderson or the Panthers who was 316 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: on the trade block, to give them some speed and 317 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: some height, because the first thought was when they made 318 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: a trade, when they made the trade for Anderson, was 319 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: not having Hollywood. The whole point of bringing Hollywood Brown 320 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: was to pair him with Hopkins so that one or 321 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: the other one wouldn't get overwhelmed. And now you're right 322 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: back to where it was. So you bring in this guy, 323 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna have to lean on him 324 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: as we go because who else are you going to 325 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: lean on? And if you're going after Robbie Anderson to 326 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: be on the outside, that tells me that Rondelle Moore 327 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: will continue to be that slot guy. And again my 328 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: question is how much are you actually going to use 329 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: him down the field at all? When you bring up 330 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Rondale Moore, I do like that I feel like they've 331 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: been using him vertically more. The last two weeks were 332 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: really in Seattle. My question is when you look at 333 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Rondell Moore and I understand why you're playing him over 334 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: Greg Dortch, who was good those first three weeks that 335 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: Rondelle didn't play because he had that hamstring injury. I 336 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: understand why you would play More over Dortch because he's 337 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: your pick and that's who you know that, that's who 338 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: you want in your offense. Does it have to be 339 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: either or because ever since more came back, Dortsch hasn't 340 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: besides special teams, hasn't really even been out there. Well, 341 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: you got four snaps. Did he not go four reps against? 342 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that would be create a drastic change, 343 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: but he consistently Greg Dortsch was one of your best 344 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: receivers at least when you look at the stats. Well, 345 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: I see where you're going from, see where you're coming from, 346 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: and I don't disagree, but I for me again, I 347 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: just have my question then becomes where do you put him? Like? 348 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: The problem I don't. I don't think he fits with 349 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: more on the field, and it doesn't make a lot 350 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: of sense. If you really think Rondale Moore is one 351 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: of your guys going forward, which they want him to be. Yeah, 352 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: but a year ago you had Christian Kirk and Rondale 353 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Moore on the field at the same time. Yes, and 354 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: then Christian Kirk left and then Jacksonville Jaguars try to 355 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: put him in the slot because that's where they want him. 356 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: And that's that again, that was always the issue here 357 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: was Cliff Kingsbury showed up and I think we've had 358 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: that conversation. They drafted Andy Isabella, and at one point 359 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: they had Christian Kirk and Andy Isabella and Rondelle Moore 360 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald and all those guys at that point 361 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: in their careers were slot receivers and you only have 362 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: basically one. So Isabella never quite worked out. They drafted 363 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: more because Elizabel Isabella didn't work out. They were playing 364 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: Kirk on the outside because there are other people they 365 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: wanted in the slot and just wasn't an outside receiver anymore. 366 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: So I mean what they need is outside receivers. They 367 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: don't need more slot guys. One guy we're forgetting here 368 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: is the earth aforementioned aj Green, who's been who my 369 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: guess is he's the one gonna lose playing time now 370 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: that Anderson's here. Yeah, And to Danny's point, I don't 371 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: care if they played two totally different positions right now, 372 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: I would play Dorch over aj Green. I just would 373 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: just based on production and reliability and the spark that 374 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: Dorche gives you when he touches the ball in the 375 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: way the sideline reacts to him. He just I don't 376 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: just things happen when he's out on the field and 377 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: he's able to make guys miss after the catch, and 378 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm not. Look, there's You're not the only two wondering that. 379 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: I get that question quite a bit. Yeah, But you 380 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: know the other thing is when Justin p went out 381 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: of the game, a lot of the Cardinals production on 382 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: offense dried up. Oh yeah, so they got to figure 383 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: that out. So which brings me to my next question. 384 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: Cody Ford. What's his status? What is known about Cody 385 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: at this point? That was another thing that was weird. 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: I asked Cliff Kingsbury about that, and Cliff said, well, 387 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: hopefully he can play this week, and if not, Max 388 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Garcia will fill in for Pew, which I thought was 389 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: odd because they are not practicing this week and Cody 390 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: Ford at this point, they haven't even opened his practice window. 391 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Now they could tomorrow, and maybe that's what that's going 392 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: to happen, is maybe they're gonna open Cody Ford's practice 393 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: window tomorrow, but you're asking him to come in and 394 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: play offensive line in an NFL game when he will 395 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: not have practiced for over a month. And they're not 396 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: practicing this week because of the short week, and he 397 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: only got so much practice because he joined the team 398 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: at the end of preseason. So I think I think 399 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: ultimately he's going to replace Pew, but I don't know 400 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: if it's Thursday, right, Wow, Well that's no, It's it's 401 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: a great point. I feel like we really I mean, 402 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Paul's like we've thrown Paul for a loop and I 403 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: don't worry about his mental health. And there's so many others. 404 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it was estimated the injury report on Monday 405 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: because there wasn't practice for either team, But we saw 406 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardak go into the locker room during the game. 407 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: There there's a lot of players you have to you 408 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: would in a normal week wonder about, but especially on 409 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: a short week, is you walk that fine line of 410 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: come a Thursday game. You're obviously not going to put 411 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: a player in a compromising situation. So if they're healthy enough, 412 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: do you play them or is it a situation? Specifically, 413 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: thinking about the running backs with James Connor and Darryl Williams, 414 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: you give them that extra rest, the mini bye before 415 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: the next week. Cliff based guy already ruled out Williams, 416 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: So the question is Connor and I would I would 417 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: wonder about that. I would want to be careful and 418 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: everybody's going through it. I mean, if you look at 419 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: the Saints, the Saints are called Marshawn Lattimore. They're not 420 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: gonna have Jarvis Landry, They're not gonna have Michael Thomas. 421 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: Both quarterbacks on the injury report, yeah, I mean, Winston's 422 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: not gonna start. I don't know what they're gonna do 423 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: with that. I should say two quarterbacks in Jamis Winston 424 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: and Andy Dalton, because I don't know what they consider 425 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill is not a quarterback anymore, but 426 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure he could play there if he needed to. 427 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: You actually have him listed as a tight end, believe 428 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: it or not. Taysom Hill, well, that's he's not playing 429 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: quarterback anymore for the most part. Two weeks, Agway three 430 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: touchdown runs against the Seahawks. Yeah, he's listed as a 431 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: tight end and then they lost their tight end, Adam 432 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: Troutman starting tight end in this last game play he's 433 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: not gonna play. So, I mean, that's the thing is 434 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: when we start talking about the injuries, the other teams 435 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: are gonna now all that right now? What does that mean? 436 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: Does that mean Amazon is going to have another very 437 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: interesting Thursday night game in front of him? Maybe? Maybe? 438 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: By the way, the Cardinals just signed a kicker, first 439 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: named Jack, last named Squat. So that's the guy right now. 440 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: You almost have me there, Paul, unless you know Benjamin 441 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: is the guy. As of right now, the Cardinals do 442 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: not have a kicker on the roster. Matt Prayder, Matt 443 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: Praytors on the roll He's not. I So are we 444 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: expecting Bright actually have a chance. I guess I don't know. Well, 445 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: they could easily sign a kicker on Tuesday to the 446 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: practice squad and then bring him up that day, which 447 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: I would expect to happen. I would expect to happen. 448 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you can count on that picking Thursday. 449 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: So the fact that Cardinals got inside the thirty four 450 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: times and only tried one field goal at Seattle at 451 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: led Kyler Murray after the game at his locker to 452 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: say we can't finish, and he said those words like 453 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: three or four times, we can't finish. That's what's plagued 454 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: in this offense right now. And then he went on 455 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: to say that the last time Bleep felt this hard, 456 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: it was his rookie year. I mean, and you know what, 457 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: he's right. The completion percentage is right, there is rookie year. Yeah, 458 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: it's it's there's no rhythm right now, there is no production. 459 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: Things don't look to be in sync. Even his accuracy 460 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: isn't what it once was for whatever reasons. Sketches Zach 461 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: or it's made. Yes, we're miraculous, just just to make 462 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: the catch. It kind of, I hate to say, this 463 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of the Josh Rosen year, because 464 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 1: when Rosen actually completed balls, they were so off the 465 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: target that there were no yards after catch. Guys had 466 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: to stop the route or contort themselves just to make 467 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: a grab. And to think that the Cardinals just traded 468 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: for a wide receiver that was just butting heads with 469 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes, so he over the place. Yes it is. 470 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: And Al Holcom is a defensive coordinator again in Carolina. 471 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: So all the above, we're talking about all this stuff 472 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: Danny didn't care about. Okay, So here's my question, and 473 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: this isn't here. This is a real question. Every team 474 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: has problems. What's the old saying, nobody wants to hear 475 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: about your problems. But if you have a true franchise quarterback, 476 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: that's the panacea. Aaron Rodgers came in here last year 477 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: on primetime without Davante Adams and he found a way 478 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: to beat the Cardinals minus his biggest target. We've seen 479 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady with a bunch of nobody's in his prime 480 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: and beyond, if you're a franchise making two hundred and 481 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars on your contract extension, should you expect 482 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: him to persevere and just get out there and still 483 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: get a win and get into the end zone, no 484 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: matter who's out there with you. Absolutely. And I think 485 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: taking that a step further is when you look at 486 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: the roster, Kyler Murray has the talents to still pull 487 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: off a win. It's not like he has a bunch 488 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: of nobody rookie offensive weapons that he's having to play with. 489 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: He has these experienced veterans, he has younger players like 490 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: Greg Dortch and even Rondale Moore who have over you know, 491 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the time playing with Kyler Murray still had those big 492 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: connections with him. So absolutely, I think while this doesn't 493 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: all just fall on Kyler Murray, you're right as a 494 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, it is your job to elevate your receivers, 495 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: help them get open, and still find a way to 496 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: win games. It has I did feel like it almost 497 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: felt kind of like Vegas in the sense in turn 498 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: of playing against Seattle, of Kyler Murray, it seemed like 499 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: that same kind of mentality of I'm gonna take him 500 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: myself if I have to. Seeing the amount of times 501 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: he was running the ball even after that fumble, like 502 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: continue to run the ball afterwards, That's what I kind 503 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: of took it as was it felt like that same 504 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: mentality we heard from him earlier in the year was 505 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: if I got to run it, I'm going to run it. 506 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: And that's to me what it felt like. I mean, 507 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: you could the difference for me was not only was 508 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: he willing to run it, but that was there were 509 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: more runs where he could have gone on a bounds 510 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: and swerved back into the into either running up the 511 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: middle in the first place or swerving back into the 512 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: field of play. That's more than ever that I can remember. 513 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: And I think it would happen if he was throwing 514 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: the ball well. I think the Cardinals would have been 515 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: awesome yesterday. The problem was he ran it really well 516 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: and the passing game just never ever clicked. And to me, 517 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: you know, you can talk about the coaching, you can 518 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: talk about removing the play calling duties from the head coach, etc. 519 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: And that was newsworthy and noteworthy, there's no doubt about it. 520 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: But the one thing that trumps everything to me is 521 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: if you're twenty five year old franchise quarterback regresses, that's 522 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: a whole other conversation. Do you see do you see 523 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: this as something is just not clicking, or do you 524 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: see this as a true regression the same The accuracy, 525 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: to me is a regression based. I mean, we've all 526 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: we've all seen it, whether on TV or in person, 527 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: from the press box, from the sideline, We've all seen it. 528 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: He's missing open receivers. Why what is it I mean 529 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: under throwing a lot of passes. The thing that threw 530 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: me in Seattle was the early bomb to Hollywood and 531 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: he had like a step and a half on the 532 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: kid and and it just was short. And they, you know, 533 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: they're crediting the kid with a nice pass break up, 534 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, all he did was like have the 535 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: ball hit him in the back because the ball was short. 536 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: And then unfortunately on the play where Hollywood Brown got injured, 537 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: he was completely smothered and covered by Terek Woolen. On 538 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: that there was no separation on that the six foot 539 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: four rookie who runs the four two six was stride 540 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: for stride with Hollywood right in his hip pocket. I'm 541 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: not sure why Kyler even through that ball. There was 542 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: no separation. That's who he trusts. We talked about it. 543 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: That's that's his go to, That's who he trusts. And 544 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it seems like at times Kyler would 545 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: rather take that chance with Hollywood Brown than maybe another option. Well, 546 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: and I also feel like yesterday was as well as 547 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: he was running the past, protection got to the point where, 548 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: I think, especially when they were behind that, Kyler started 549 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: getting the Okay, here they come. I got to do 550 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: something about this kind of feel and rushed. The decision 551 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: making was rushed, and the choices were rushed, and that 552 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: was fourth and eleven. I think there's frustration from a 553 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: lot of folks. Okay, it's fourth and eleven, you're going 554 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: for forty. What about something that's going to be closer 555 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: to the sticks, you know at that point? And so 556 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: either way the car, look, I consider it correctible. I 557 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: really do. Everything I've seen out there I consider correctable. 558 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't see a cardinal's offense necessarily getting blown off 559 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: the And now if they're gonna have backup interior old lineman, 560 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: then that could be an issue that Yeah, So if 561 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: those guys are going to continue to get dominated, and 562 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, Seattle is about their best 563 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman in al Woods, and they still had 564 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: issues trying to block upfront. So if that's going to 565 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: continue to be the case against Cameron Jordan and company 566 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: against the Saints on Thursday night, well, you can have 567 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: all the talent in the world. If your old line 568 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: is a sieve, then you're gonna have issues. Just talk 569 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: to the Rams right now, who just lost Joe No Boom, 570 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: their left tackle wasn't playing very well to begin with. 571 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: What do you do with Billy Price? Is that an option? 572 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: Once again? What does he know? I mean a Cody 573 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: Ford if he's in there, hasn't played content full contact 574 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: football in a month. If Billy Price is in there, 575 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: he's new to the system. And if he's your center, 576 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: who's calling the pass protections? Do you trust him in 577 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: your system? Yet? You know there's all these You know, 578 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson, if he plays and apparently he's gone up play, 579 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some sort of package. Okay, Is Kyler 580 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna be able to make checks with Robbie Anderson out there? 581 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: Then again, there's enough guys blown enough for Simmons from 582 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: what I can see. I don't know how much worse 583 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: it can get. I just I've been done. A necessity, 584 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: especially since you're gonna have new guys on the offensive 585 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: line and some at least one new receiver, You're probably 586 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to simplify things. And I don't know if 587 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: that's a bad thing for this Cardinal's offense at this point. 588 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: Just let's keep it simple and just try and dominate physically. 589 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: Just make your block and or do your job. Bill 590 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: Belichick and let's see where that gets us. The one thing, 591 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: and it's so obvious, and I'm not trying to say 592 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: it's not cliche necessarily, but when Cliff was talking about 593 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: potentially thinking about giving up the play calling, he basically said, 594 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: all I want to do is score points and win games. 595 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: And that's about as simple as it gets. And it 596 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: does feel like at this point that's the Cardinals just 597 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: need to look at. And that doesn't answer anything that 598 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: doesn't say, well, how do you get there? But I 599 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: do feel like it has to get that much more simple. 600 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Like again, we were talking about down there, and obviously 601 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: if they had to do it over again, they wouldn't 602 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: be running Kyler on the outside on that second to 603 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: one on the goal line. But also that play has 604 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: worked a million times where you you know, the defense 605 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: thinks you're gonna give it to the guy up the 606 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: middle and then you and Kyler is able to get 607 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: outside with a speed, and it just didn't work that time. 608 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: It just I felt like for me in that circumstance, 609 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks were not stopping him. Yeah, Eno had 610 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: gotten stopped for a short gain on the play before, 611 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: but it was two yards and two more yards would 612 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: have gotten in the end zone and all that's all 613 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: you needed at that point. And again, to me, when 614 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: you talk about being more simple, maybe that's when we 615 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: talk about simple. That's it. I mean, I was trying 616 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: to tell Craig Grielu last week and Cover two, Well, 617 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: you can't tell him anything going into the Seattle game 618 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: that I just break every tendency at this point, you're 619 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: you've been shut out at through five games. In the 620 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: first quarter, just come out and do something entirely different 621 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: for the sake of being different. Because what do the 622 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: great offensive play callers in the league do? What do 623 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: they achieve? They keep defenses honest? Right, whenever the Cardinals 624 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: play Sean McVeigh or Kyle Shanahan, what do you hear 625 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: from the defensive players? Yeah, they keep be honest. They 626 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: show you stuff you haven't seen before. You think it's 627 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: one thing, and it's totally different, it's another. It's the 628 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: same personnel group and you think it's this play. Nope, 629 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: it's that. And because of that, maybe you hesitate just 630 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: a little bit to diagnose and discern what it is. 631 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: And that's all they need, and that's the edge they 632 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: need to get a block on you, and there it 633 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: is a big gainer, big chunk play. Honestly, at this point, 634 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: change for the sake of change isn't a bad thing. 635 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't think, just to break tendencies. So the Saints 636 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: can't come out and go, oh, yeah, we've seen this again, 637 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: you know. I mean the one frustrating point for me. 638 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: It was a lot of them for you, Paul, for everybody, 639 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: get in line behind me. Fourth quarter. It's fourth and 640 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: two at the twenty three and what do the Cardinals do. 641 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: They go shotgun an empty backfield. Okay, all I know 642 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: is when we've had defensive linemen on the Big Red 643 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: Rage and they say when they go against teams and 644 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: key short yardage situations, if they get into the gun, 645 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: especially if it's empty, all of a sudden, it cuts 646 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: in half the possibilities of what's coming. It makes their 647 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: job a lot easier to read the play and or 648 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: come off the ball with even more vengeance because they 649 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about a running back coming through 650 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: the hole anymore, or a straight ahead run play. So 651 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing in those situations that are 652 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: so critical to every game, to converting and extending a drive. 653 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: I'd love to see him just do something entirely different. 654 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I wonder if that's maybe not 655 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: in terms of play calling, but mentally, if that was 656 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: part of the walkthrough last week of giving that break 657 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: and really trying to focus on things mentally, and maybe 658 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: that's I don't want to say a blessing because of 659 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: the way they've played, but having a short week and 660 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: not having any true practices and it's really just going 661 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: to be a bunch of walkthroughs, maybe that is in 662 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 1: a way going to be helpful for this team mentally 663 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: to focus and maybe make some changes and really focus 664 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: on that when it comes to doing those that preparation work. 665 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just trying to find silver lining here. 666 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: And look, I have the quote someone has to normally 667 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: that's you, Paul. I have the quote right here, and 668 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: I think I might have cut and pasted it off 669 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: your store and easy Cardinals dot Com, Darren, just just 670 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: for you know, discussions sake, Cliff Kingsbury. After the game quote, 671 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: we will see how we can move things around personnel 672 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: wise and scheme wise and see how we can get better. 673 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: It's a six game view and it hasn't been good enough. Okay, Now, 674 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: what's realistic on a short week, probably not much. Well, 675 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know that this is what's going to happen, 676 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: but it's so interesting to me that Cliff is now saying, 677 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: maybe I consider giving up the play calling, because if 678 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: you recall, it was after a Thursday night game in 679 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen that Steve Wilkes let Mike McCoy go the 680 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and promoted Brian a buyer and left. Which 681 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: now I don't know if the result Thursday is going 682 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: to mean anything. A very wise hockey coach that I 683 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: covered once upon a long time ago, Jim Schoenfeld, once said, 684 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: when there were rumors out there have another Shoney said, 685 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: we were talking to him and there had been a 686 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: story leaked out that he was going to get fired 687 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: that night if the Coyotes lost to the Ducks. They 688 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: had had the Kitties had a great start that season 689 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: and they had faded and he was gonna get fired. 690 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: And Shoney's point was, if I'm bad enough to get 691 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: fired if we lose, wouldn't I be bad enough to 692 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: be fired before the game even starts, Like, well, why 693 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: would one game mean anything? So I don't know if 694 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: if this result means anything on Thursday night or not. 695 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: But when you talk about the timing, maybe it makes 696 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: sense that, Okay, if we're going to make a change, 697 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: like the process of how we call plays in a 698 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: week or what breaking all our tendencies, maybe it makes 699 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: more sense to do it in the mini buy after 700 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: a Thursday night game than trying to jam it in 701 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: to this week right now. So inquiring minds want to 702 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: know who would it be Spencer Whipple who called plays 703 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Would it be Cam Turner? Was the close 704 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: relationship with Kyler Murray is the passing game coordinator and 705 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach? Who would it be? You think? I don't 706 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: know between the two of those. How would that even be? 707 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: John Kugler Coogler supposedly weighs in a lot of the 708 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: run plays. Yeah, I mean, I think they've got choices. 709 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: And again, and I was talking to somebody about this. 710 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: We fans talk about hiring an offensive coordinator or not 711 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: scripting the same plays, or not calling I have a 712 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: different play caller, and I'm like, there's there's always a 713 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: little these little nuances. Let's make this very clear. He 714 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: said he'd consider giving up play calling. That does not 715 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: mean bringing an offensive coordinator. That does not bring mean 716 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: bringing somebody from the outside. If they do a change, 717 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be within the staff. Make that very clear. 718 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: So it's not like there's some outside, you know, guy 719 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: walking in the door, nor would that make any sense 720 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: of this Timmy year. Anyways, and once again, I'm just 721 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, we don't know how many play 722 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: calls are being changed by the quarterback of the line 723 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. We just we don't know. So it's it's 724 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: hard to really never will yeah, and so it's hard 725 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: to determine. We do know here we go segue in 726 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: three two one. We do know that some of the 727 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: young pass rushers were productive, and it was good to 728 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: see a Cameron Thomas and my j Sanders, Jesse Luketta, 729 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: who's a problem at times out there, and so it 730 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: was good to see those guys show some athleticism off 731 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: the edge, even Cam Thomas, who looked like he's playing 732 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: more of a five technique most of the game, which 733 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't. Does that really surprise No, not at all. No. 734 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised they put him at outside 735 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: linebacker when he showed up honestly, and you know, Darren, 736 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: you call yourself a reporter. You need to get on. 737 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: This is Cam Thomas now residing in the D line room. 738 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: I'd like to know that. I'd like to know that 739 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: is he still over there on the outside, because honestly, 740 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: it's probably know, there's probably like fire codes against the 741 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 1: you know space in the in the outside linebacker room 742 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: at this point, they have so many that you had 743 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: to move somebody out of there. Well, Devonard was cut, 744 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. I think he actually signed with 745 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore's practice squad. It's good for him. Yeah, Okay, so 746 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: he's got a locker next to I Andy's. Oh. I 747 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: always find a way to work it in somehow, some 748 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: way here he's still with us. Paul is so upset 749 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals don't play the Ravens this year well preseason, 750 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: but oh yeah, that's well yeah, but both those guys 751 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: were still here. Yeah. So yeah though, and then of 752 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: course you have the Cardinals secondary. Uh. In the first half, 753 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: we saw Byron Murphy travel quite a bit with DK Metcalf, 754 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: and then they changed it up. Antonio Hamilton was with 755 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf quite a bit that got a little feisty 756 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: and chippy, especially at the end of the first half. 757 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: Did you see that when that happened. So there was 758 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: a play to Metcalf right before the end of the 759 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: first half, and Hamilton broke it up and then he 760 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: started like making gestures to Metcalf and this I like, 761 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,959 Speaker 1: go ahead, test me, I'll do it. And the very 762 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: next play they threw a fade to Metcalf in the 763 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: end zone and Antonio broke it up and Metcalf was 764 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: looking for a past interference and then Antonio really let 765 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: him know and that was the That was the last 766 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: play before they kicked the field well before halftime. Gotcha, No, 767 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: that's good stuff. That's good. It's uh I tell you 768 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. If trayvon Mullen is ever a factor 769 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: and ever gets healthy, then you have four pretty good 770 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: corners at that at this point, Well, we don't know 771 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: he's a good corner corner. All I know is when 772 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: they put Christian Matthew and how many snaps at Christian 773 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: Matthew give because a lot Gino Smith went right at 774 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: him the moment thirty five got into the game. So 775 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: you could use one more corner, No, and I'm sure 776 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: it's Mullen, but he's got to get healthy. At least 777 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: he seems to be doing a little bit better with 778 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: a hamstring, But who knows. Zavan, by the way, filled 779 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: it up right. Not only the two sacks, he had 780 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: two tackles for loss. He had a couple of quarterback hits. 781 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know how. I think he's a very 782 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: intelligent postgame quote too, Paul, he is. No, he's a 783 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: great interview. He is. He's thoughtful. I even said that 784 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: to Mike Helman, our media relations department afterwards in the 785 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: locker room, saying like he is, like, really, just become 786 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: such a better quote. And not in the sense of 787 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: he's saying what you want to hear, but the way 788 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: he is explaining things and being very honest, and he's 789 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: not being short in his answers, and he doesn't necessarily. No, 790 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: I thought he was great at least. I'm not sure 791 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: your radio interview because we were talking to him after 792 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: out his locker, Paul, but I thought he was great. 793 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: If you walk by his locker during the week. The 794 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: Cardinal's Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center. As I read 795 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: this off the monogram logo here there, it is all 796 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: right over there, him me to the prompter um. He's 797 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: a big classic rock guy. Have you ever noticed the 798 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: music that's coming from his locker I've noticed players getting 799 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: on his case for them coming from They never give 800 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: him the ox cord never, And he admits it. He 801 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: admits that, Yeah, he's the most despised guy when it 802 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: comes to the choice of music in the locker room. 803 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: But you walk over there, like one time it was 804 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: Summer a Love of nineteen sixty seven. He had some 805 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: Johnny Cash going, which isn't even classic rock. He had 806 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: some Alman Brothers one day, some Leonard skinnerd and I 807 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: mean every time he's and then Tanner Vallejo. He just 808 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: sits there and I'm like, Tanner, you have to absorb this. 809 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: He's Oh, Tanner just nods accordingly say yeah, and and 810 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: Zaven laughs he said, yep, Tanner, he's he's I've educated Tanner. 811 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: I've coached him up on a lot of the classic 812 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: rock over the years. So and that was his um 813 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: Sack celebration, the rodeo, the lasso, That's what I took it. Ass. 814 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: I did not see that. I didn't see it that's 815 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: what I took it ass Okay, he looked like a 816 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: little putting his arm above was heading a circle, little 817 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: yeha action. So it's harder than ever to see on 818 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: the sideline because you're shrinking. Yes, I'm not talking about 819 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: me standing behind him. Look, it's already enough of a challenge, 820 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: me behind offensive lineman. Okay, it's already enough of a challenge. 821 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: Now we have the Hard Knocks crew there, and when 822 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: these NFL Films cameras are everywhere, so you're dodging the 823 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: audio people, You're dodging the photographers, you know. I mean, 824 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: as if it can always get worse hashtag, and it 825 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: is because the let me tell you there, I was 826 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: doing the Saven Collins interview and I'm like, okay, and 827 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: the emotions are wrong. You're the locker room. Here comes 828 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: saving You're trying to keep your voice down a little bit, 829 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: and then boom writing your mug. Right there is an 830 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: NFL Films camera and they're videoing the whole thing. So 831 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: now I'm like, okay, I'm trying to ask questions A 832 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: they don't get me punched, and then B now I 833 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: gotta wonder. Okay, I'm trying to ask questions that don't 834 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: end up on stinking Hard Knocks. If this goes sideways 835 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: for the wrong reason. Well, that's the thing is like 836 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: you're talking about the camera and I'm like it, that's 837 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: only getting a worse. Hard Knocks starts next week. No, No, 838 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: November ninety nine. It was the first episode. But but 839 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: they're recording. Oh no, they've got all kinds of stuff on, 840 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: so so what are they going to include? What do 841 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: they have? There is gonna be a CALVC episode. You'll 842 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: be in there, don't worry about. I mean, there's gonna 843 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: be like you know, I mean TV time. They'll probably 844 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: take eight or nine minutes off the top of the 845 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: first episode to sort of recap where the cardinals are. No, 846 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: and they've been they've been putting out little clips here 847 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: and there to keep promoting it. I've noticed on on 848 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: social media. But yeah, I mean, they could have have 849 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: a whole They could have a whole series already if 850 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: if they were doing this part of the year. That's 851 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: for sure. We have no idea what they might have 852 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: captured already. That could be some really compelling and intriguing stuff. 853 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: We have no idea because there they've been going a 854 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,479 Speaker 1: lot of places none of us are allowed. So it's 855 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm allowed, but you're not welcome. Really, no, I'm not welcome. Yeah, 856 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: so yeah, that's no different from me. Yea. So all right, 857 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: Thursday night, Uh, what is the d hop? What is 858 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: the current win loss record by the home team on 859 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,479 Speaker 1: Thursday night? Is that still a decisive advantage these days? 860 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: It would have been nice if you had given us 861 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: the heads up to look that up. Come on, guys, 862 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I know Thursday will be 863 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty one day since the Cardinals last 864 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: went at home. Okay, moment of silence for that information, 865 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: right there, Craig Grilo, I bet knows exactly the Thursday 866 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: night splits between the home and the road team. Probably, Yeah, 867 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: you figure it's got to be an advantage though, obviously 868 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: if you're the home team on a short week and 869 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 1: you got to travel. So we'll see if that matters, 870 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: if that comes out, I mean there is. The Cardinals 871 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: are favored. They are favored right first time this season 872 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: or their favorite at Seattle. Okay, well, well, once again, 873 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: as soon as the sunshine was out, you knew something 874 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: was going to go sideways. It was gonna go wrong. 875 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: It just threw everyone for a loop. The fact it 876 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: was actually near eighty degrees in sunny in Seattle, so 877 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: that was that was a problem, no question. That was 878 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: a great first Seattle experience for me, though. What stood 879 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: out to you, Danny in your Seattle experience? While before dinner, 880 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: we walked around downtown, did the tourisi things even though 881 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: it was closed, walked by the fish market, the gum wall, 882 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: which is gross jinks, and we watched the rest of 883 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: the baseball game somewhere, got a drink beforehand to dinner 884 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: with you guys. Man, there were a lot of down 885 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: Mariners fans walking around in Man and the Seattle cracking 886 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: loss um. And then I really enjoyed Luminfield. I thought 887 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: it was a really fun experience being down there pregame. 888 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: It was fun to kind of experience a place that 889 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: you hear about and the fans and all that stuff. Yeah, 890 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: and the sign guy and all that sign guy. He 891 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: said I was his new favorite. Oh, you interacted with 892 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: the Sun guy quite a few times. Yes, I'll interacted 893 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 1: with him. Oh, I'm sure we had different interactions. If 894 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: I know anything about you, it sounds he was cordial 895 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: towards you. It's been very hostile towards me, so, you know, 896 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: trying not to take that person late. But I get it, 897 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: you know. So uh some of his signs though, um yeah, 898 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. He wasn't on his a game put 899 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: it that way with some of the signs. Now he 900 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: has other people holding his signs too. He's like branched out. 901 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: He's like he's expanded. It loses everything and now a 902 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: lot of people go up and shake his hand. No, 903 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: he's still the Enemy's still the enemy. He's still I mean, 904 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't care if you think it's funny or creative 905 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. It's still at the expense of the home team. 906 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: So no, I'm not I'm not going up there shaking 907 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: that guy's hand. Come on, now, he's still a member 908 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: of the twelves. Yeah, exactly. Okay, Well, it does feel 909 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: like a Monday after a loss a road game, and so, uh, 910 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: I wish we had more answers, but we don't. Maybe 911 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: d hop is the answer. No, he's not the end 912 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: all be all. But didn't Cliffs say on one of 913 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: the I don't know if it was the radio side 914 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 1: or the press Covererance, he started asking for the game 915 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: plan immediately Monday morning. DeAndre Hopps, that makes sense. Sure, Okay, 916 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: here we go. Here we go. Patrick Peterson played a 917 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: heck the game in New York after the six game suspension. 918 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: He played a heck of a game. Now didn't go 919 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: very well after that. Yeah, it was downhill from there. 920 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: But um, he did come out and he did ball. 921 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: So we'll see. I mean, think about it in some ways, 922 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: and we can ask DeAndre Hopkins this. But I mean, 923 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: he's got really fresh legs obviously, and I'm guessing a 924 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: lot of guys whore gonna be on that field on 925 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: Thursday night with some heavy legs. So I wonder if that, 926 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: you know, in a weird way, Robby Anderson's legs probably 927 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: aren't very tired either. Oh yeah, so here we go. 928 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: Darren's calling it the deep ball game. Here we go. 929 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: It's the get right game. Wasn't against Seattle, It's Thursday 930 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: night against the Saints, and that's where we'll leave it 931 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific Office 932 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: Automation