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Speaker 1: R and B Money. We are thanks. We are the

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Speaker 1: authority on R and D. Ladies and gentlemen. I'm Jay

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Speaker 1: Valentine and this is the R and B Money Podcast.

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Speaker 1: And today I got everybody's favorite producer. It's the producer's

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Speaker 1: favorite producer. I think we probably gonna We're gonna we

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Speaker 1: might roll some more, hopefully with on Divee Tonight. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna definitely risk it all on my Mama. You're about

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Speaker 1: to love this episode. Today I got my good brother,

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Speaker 1: the amazing, the greatest Haitian. They might get mad at

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Speaker 1: me for here in that, DMA.

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Speaker 2: What's the hold home? How you doing? Brood se?

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Speaker 1: Hey bro, this is like the lock Nest Munster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm outside now, I'm outside.

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Speaker 1: So all y'all have been looking for dmile here I

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Speaker 1: am man. I found it. I found it. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: It's good to.

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Speaker 2: See you, bro Man, good to see you too.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Listen, you know, obviously a lot of people publicly don't

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Speaker 1: know you. Was that Was that done on purpose for you?

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Speaker 2: I feel like at first it was I kind of

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Speaker 2: just like focus on the music and the news, loving

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Speaker 2: to do that. I kind of didn't like attention. I

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Speaker 2: still don't, but you know, I'm way more open these days.

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Speaker 2: But then it kind of just became a part of

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Speaker 2: my my thing. So I don't think it was always intentions.

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Speaker 2: The whole time. It was like whatever comes, whatever comes,

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Speaker 2: and then just.

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Speaker 1: Then, like you said, it became part of your thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to go

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Speaker 1: to around.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, but I can't write. I definitely got comfortable.

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Speaker 2: I definitely started to like it, so I was just like,

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with it, Like, yeah, if I can just

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Speaker 2: still live and do all that and not even show

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Speaker 2: up and you know, show my face and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But people don't understand, man, the the luxury of that

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Speaker 1: of being able to do what you love in the

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Speaker 1: entertainment space, because that's you know, when you sign up

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Speaker 1: for entertaining or entertainment, it becomes a thing where you

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Speaker 1: have to show up. But being able to make a

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Speaker 1: to things, yeah, it's actually pretty fucking I went through

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Speaker 1: that phase for sure. Sure, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: People bring up my artists days and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: whenever it felt like it was about to just get

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Speaker 1: Middle of a song. Yep, don't do a video for it. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: Have too many niggas's noticing me to get that out

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Speaker 1: of here, right, you know what I mean? So I understand, bro, Like,

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Speaker 1: just go to the mall, go to the store, or

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Speaker 1: be on the plane and yeah, nobody let you sleep

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Speaker 1: through your flight, right, you know what I mean. You're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be a sleep to your flight after tonight, bro, Man, Like,

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Speaker 1: I see you want to my.

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Speaker 2: Son, right, Yeah, I'm ready for it now.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, you don't really have none of the

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Speaker 1: producing trappings neither. Bro. You don't got no no.

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Speaker 2: Big change, got my damn Apple Watch. Yeah you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But besides that, I'm chilling.

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Speaker 1: But now they're going they gonna know the name of

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Speaker 1: the company too, though, definitely. So let's let's go back though, bro. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Boy, Yeah, we're going back back. Yeah. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because my dad he gives to this day, he

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Speaker 2: still gives private lessons at the house. Yeah, So piano, piano, bass, guitar, drums,

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Speaker 2: what I mean to this day, like people drop out

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Speaker 1: So you literally grew up in a house that looked

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Speaker 1: the instruments everywhere, Yes, definitely, Oh that's great.

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Speaker 2: Yep. So I had it all, you know, and that's

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Speaker 2: Drums was my favorite, but I didn't have that at home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't be playing but yeah, the bigger basis

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Speaker 1: So you take on instruments at the age of three,

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Speaker 1: to play in church, I write songs one day, Like

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Speaker 1: Okay, you gotta tell me about that. He was about

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Speaker 1: So you're not why cleft.

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Speaker 2: No, right, But I had all these songs that I

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Speaker 1: You was about to be the Haitian Tank, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Tank, I think I was being compared.

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Speaker 1: To Neo, know, because you are one hundred percent? Well, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: like that's what I mean. You know, we talked about

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Speaker 2: But I didn't have a voice like him. Okay, but

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Speaker 2: everything else, yeah, that would have been You're dead right,

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Speaker 2: I'm dead on it.

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Speaker 1: So he said you had you had a chance. Does

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Speaker 1: that mean you actually took Did you take the did

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Speaker 1: you take the the meetings and the whole thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I went with it. I went up to the building.

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Speaker 1: So at this time, though, had you placed anything on anybody,

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Speaker 1: had you done anything? Had you had your break yet

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Speaker 1: as a as a writer or producer or any of

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Speaker 2: I know when I was nineteen, I just can't remember this, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, I started making music and like demograph music when

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Speaker 2: I was fifteen. But by the time I was nineteen,

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Speaker 2: is when you took this meeting. Yeah, like that's when

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Speaker 2: they wanted to sign me. Yeah, so around that time,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember when it came out or whatever, but

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Speaker 2: around that time was when well maybe it was when

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Speaker 2: I was twenty, so I think I think I didn't

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Speaker 2: have anything. But right after my first placement was on

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Speaker 2: Rihanna's very first album.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, first placement, Yeah, good job, man, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I heard it.

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Speaker 1: I did my research. I was like, yeah, this doesn't

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Speaker 1: It was more of an island field exactly initially with

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Speaker 1: her with her first album It's Okay. So how do

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Speaker 1: you land a record on Rihanna's first album?

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Speaker 2: Man, me and my partners, you know, we were just

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Speaker 2: in New York grinding, just trying to like sow the season,

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Speaker 2: let everybody know who I am, and we ran into

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Speaker 2: this group called Full Force.

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Speaker 1: You know, come on do that, hey man, do not

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Speaker 1: do hey? This group called Yeah we're talking about we

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Speaker 1: talk both body Slam, the house party. Come on, don't

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Speaker 1: do this though, do this. This was my guys bro

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Speaker 1: for my guy.

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Speaker 2: You might not know so no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, listen, if you watch the Army Mundy podcast, you

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Speaker 1: Right, get that bad?

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Speaker 2: I think I was just seeing like what that happening.

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Speaker 1: So, because that's literally how this shit goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it was it was really him just

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Speaker 2: But getting there and seeing him like he was in

435
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: the middle of working on a project or finishing up

436
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: a song and just kind of just seeing his process,

437
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 2: I felt like I could. I just felt like he

438
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: was like the older me in a way because I

439
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: felt like like I just understood his process, and with

440
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: me not knowing or being that close to someone that

441
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: big at that time as a producer and seeing how

442
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 2: he works, I was just like, yeah, I can relate

443
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 2: to this like this, Yeah I can see myself doing

444
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: that at that caliber. But it was, it was, it

445
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: was crazy. And then after that, you know, we were there.

446
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 2: I was there for two three years. A lot of

447
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: great stories, you know, ups and downs. That's when I

448
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: got my like Janet placement there the feedbacks. Yeah, before that,

449
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: actually I did have that married J song Gonna break Through.

450
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that was before meeting him. One of

451
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: my guys played on that record, really, Lauren Dawson.

452
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: Oh snap.

453
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, I've known Lauren bro since I was

454
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: a teen.

455
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

456
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went out on a writing trip I think

457
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: when I was like eighteen. Yeah, I met him years ago.

458
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I remember because the virgin I

459
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 2: ended up coming out for that song was not exactly

460
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: how I had it. They cleaned it up a little bit,

461
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: added all the stuff.

462
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: You know that you're a young producer, that's what happens.

463
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: They're like, my partners hated it, but I was like,

464
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: I get it. It made sense with the flow of

465
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: the project, you know. But yeah, that's that's crazy.

466
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: Small worlds very smart, especially music business.

467
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

468
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: So you you with you with Rodney, you get feedback, yep.

469
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: Do you feel a shift yet within within where your

470
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: career is going? And yeah, you know within the industry,

471
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and obviously the at the time also being

472
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, signed to someone who's that high level in

473
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: the industry. The phone calls are different, the you know,

474
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: people pulling up to the studio like you said, Man,

475
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: I want to get in with you. Now, it's like

476
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: people are coming there to work with y'allah. I'm sure

477
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: that was a whole different experience for you at that point.

478
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, you know. I mean for me, of course,

479
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: he was the main focus because he's dark child, So

480
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: anybody who came over, came through was really for that.

481
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: But we the opportunities were there for us, and I

482
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: always used to think, like because it was a bunch

483
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: of us there like that that building, it was so

484
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: many times of people in there, I felt like we

485
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: were the the X Men of music, but like unknown

486
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: right at right time. But but yeah, it was it

487
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: was just it was just you know, crazy to see

488
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: who would just walk in in the buildings sometimes and

489
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 2: even the days like when nothing's happening and I you know,

490
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: sneaking like look at his files to see like some

491
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: secret Michael Jackson shit that you know what I'm saying

492
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: that he was working on that never came out or

493
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: et cetera, like, and just being just a fan first

494
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: of him and the music that came out, the music

495
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: that didn't come out. Just being there for certain things,

496
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: just being able to help in any way, you know,

497
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: whether it was something that I was looking for credit

498
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: for or not, you know what I mean. But I

499
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 2: was really just like a team player, right. But you know,

500
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: just that access was the start of it.

501
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: Do you do you look back now at that as

502
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: in a sense of your college Yes, it was like

503
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: their education into the music business.

504
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

505
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: I think you and I spoke about this as well earlier,

506
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: where people look at kind of the beginning stages of

507
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: their careers and they glance over it, maybe sometimes in

508
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: not the most positive way. And I tend to feel

509
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: that way with people, or take that from people who

510
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: maybe weren't continuing their success right where they just what

511
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: they're harboring on really the college years. The college years,

512
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: not even you said it was ups and downs, like

513
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: when you're working with people and at that time working

514
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: for someone, right, right, because you have to understand what

515
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: that is too. In this business, A lot of people think, oh,

516
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 1: I'm working with such and such. No, no, no, right now,

517
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: you're working for sure with It's more of a partnership,

518
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But if I'm bringing you in,

519
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm feeding you, I'm all these lights, all this things. Work.

520
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: You work for me, which is not a bad thing.

521
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: It's not bad to work for someone. But I think

522
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: in music these lines of we all did it, yeah,

523
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: which we we did all do it, but someone, someone

524
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: has to get us there. Yeah, someone has to put

525
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: us in front of a Janet Jackson, you know. And

526
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: I look at mine early on, I look at my

527
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, my early early stages of in the music

528
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: business as my college. I didn't go to college, you

529
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm like, this is this

530
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: was me going to college and paying my dudes and

531
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: getting my degree. I might not have a master's from

532
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: Berkeley School of Music, but I got a master's from

533
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: the Music Industry School of Music. That's exactly how I feel,

534
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I just I take

535
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: it for what it is, man, and that time was

536
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: what it was, and you know, hopefully I won't say hopefully.

537
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm continuing to use things oh yeah,

538
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: that I learned from that time.

539
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

540
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: So had you done a deal, had you done like

541
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: publishing and all those types of things?

542
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was published under him. Okay, so it

543
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: wasn't a production deal, but it was a it was

544
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: a publishing deal. But he basically treated me like one

545
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: of his producers, you know, even though it was just

546
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: published under him, and you know, like took us in

547
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: as a family man he had. There was a few

548
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: of us, and so I writers too at that time.

549
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: So but yeah, it was a pub deal. Yeah, yep,

550
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: that was my first one. And I think we talk

551
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: about checks. I don't think that that definitely was a

552
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: low one. That was a low one.

553
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wanna tell us a number.

554
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: I can't remember. I do remember. I'll give him this

555
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: one day. He gave me out of nowhere ten thousand

556
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: dollars bonus. If that's or not, I mean it's a

557
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: but I feel like the original price wasn't crazy either,

558
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: but at least it was easy for me recoup.

559
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: I think my first I think my first publishing deal

560
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: was for seventy five.

561
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: I feel like it was around and I got yeah,

562
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: that's yes, Yes.

563
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: I think I got the thirty seven five to kick

564
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: it off. I got my half and then ran through that.

565
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: We're gonna run through that, yep. And I needed like

566
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: another ten or fifteen for equipment.

567
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

568
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: And then I wrote in sink celebrity out of there,

569
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: read negotiation yep. And then the Entyresa liked them girls

570
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 1: dropped two months later. I'm like, oh, yep, you motherfuckers.

571
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm bad funny you know.

572
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: That was the first that ensing album was the first

573
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: album I've ever purchased with my own money, no shit.

574
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: It was that and Rushan's eighty seven one on one

575
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: eighty seven on one at the same time, Thank you, buddy.

576
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: At the same time, man, you help me get out of.

577
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: My publishing.

578
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Facts.

579
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: If I hadn't been signed to that publishing deal for

580
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: maybe six months crazy and I got cracking.

581
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's great.

582
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: And I was able to, you know, work my magic

583
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: and go get me a bag. Yeah. You killed that, man,

584
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: they killed that. I was like, wait, so they sold

585
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: how many first week? Right? She shit? What point three?

586
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: Right?

587
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: Ah? Thanks in shame? Yeah yeah so no, but I mean,

588
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, but they they published, They got it. They

589
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: were smart enough to do a deal with me early on,

590
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: and they were able to publish this new young writer

591
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: who they got for pennies on the dollar. Worked out

592
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: for everybody, worked out for everybody, worked out for everybody.

593
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Do you remember what you bought with your publishing money,

594
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: your first your first check with the ten thousand with

595
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: the bonus.

596
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: I bet you it was equipment. I bet you it was.

597
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: He was he was investing. Yeah, I bought a pair

598
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: of jeans, I think, yeah.

599
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah.

600
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: I went to the mall, bro and I had uh,

601
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: I had five thousand cash on me. I said, yeah,

602
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: I need I need to feel it. I need to

603
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: feel all it. You know. The heights had a hundred

604
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: to me. And I went to the Beverly Center and

605
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't find anything. And I just bought a pair

606
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: of random jeans. I got, I'm buying something something. I

607
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: left them all with probably forty nine hundred and sixty dollars.

608
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Jeans was cheapest. Fuck right, you know what I mean?

609
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I bought something. I bought something. It's

610
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: like some Levi's in nineteen whatever the fuck in the

611
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds? Is my kids?

612
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: Go right? Right?

613
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: Dad? You were born in nineteen hundreds, Like, yeah, were over, bro,

614
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: I was born in the nineteen hundreds. Man, right, But

615
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: all right, so now you now you were ridey, you

616
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: got the placement, you got, You're getting a bonus. Yeah, right,

617
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: and you're there for a couple of years. Yeah, at

618
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: what point did you step out on your so when

619
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: I and what was the shift for you where you

620
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: were like, all right, it's time.

621
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Things just kind of happened. But let's see, I was

622
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: with him from two thousand and five or two thousand

623
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: and six, two thousand and nine.

624
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: Shit changed, Okay.

625
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: I I think I was starting My name was definitely

626
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: going around the industry, and I think people were more

627
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: and more realizing my talent on my own as well.

628
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: So I was starting to get calls directly to me,

629
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: you know, for me, and.

630
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: You weren't signed, yeah, producer anyway, right, so it wasn't

631
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: like you had to go through a product okay, all right, And.

632
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: I already had placements and I already was getting that,

633
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: but it was just like it was starting to level

634
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: up a little bit and like the type of people

635
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: that were seeking out for me. So at that time,

636
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: the one thing I can remember, it was kind of

637
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: like coinciding with my transition and leaving Rodney, I met

638
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: Puff okay, yeah, and he was working on this album

639
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: at the.

640
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Time, was it the ditty dirty Money Out?

641
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: Thirty Money Out?

642
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: Okay, yep.

643
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: So going back to Joe Thomas again, there was another

644
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: song that I did called Triple Black Room, which was

645
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: also a bonus on this album.

646
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: Joe, why you kept putting my nigga on the bonus? Man?

647
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: I didn't have his first single on that album.

648
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: Well, Tank used to put me on the bonus too,

649
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: bro Like, he asked me to sing on the record.

650
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: I thought I was cracking. Somehow I end up on

651
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: like a target.

652
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: Water right for sure. But I did have the song

653
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: called Emergency that that was his first single, that one,

654
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: that one did what it did, But all the other

655
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: songs I did with Joe were bonuses, and it was

656
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: like it was like target only bonus, So you have

657
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: to go to target, you know what I'm talking about

658
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: that yep.

659
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling everybody. I'm like, yeah, you know, I got

660
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: this exactly. I'm featured. Please you know, I mean you

661
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: talk me into singing on the song, right? Yeah, it's

662
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: only a target, I said, only singing target, right? Fine?

663
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: So anyway, somehow Puff heard it okay and had like

664
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: this Prince vibe. It was like the eighties whatever, and

665
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: he was like, whoever did that? I need that guy

666
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: for this album. So I met him, and I remember

667
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: one time one night, he had all of Rodney's camp

668
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: go out there, but already on the side, Puff was

669
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: reaching out directly to me as well and my team

670
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 2: to work on it. I don't think Rodney knew at

671
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: this time, but whatever the case, we all went there.

672
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: He was playing all the ideas he had At the time,

673
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: I was blown away. I was just like, what the

674
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: hell did I just hear? And I remember going back

675
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 2: to the studio and just like making tracks from that

676
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: from that point on, like, you know, trying to send

677
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: him some shit. And then he had me come to

678
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: New York at Daddy's house, his studio, and for like

679
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: two three years we were working on that project like

680
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: on and off. Yeah, but you know, like once we

681
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: really got into working on it, I had already moved

682
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: on for Rodney. Okay that point, that was like the

683
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: first main big thing that that you were part of

684
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: me that I was a part of. Outside of that, Yeah.

685
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: Listen, that album, that last Tin of Pairs album is

686
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: actually really dope. Yeah, it's a really really dope album.

687
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: All right, So now when do you get your first

688
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: hit record?

689
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: So Janet was but it was like number nineteen on

690
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: the Hot one hundred and that was like everything to me.

691
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: That was before all of that, But honestly, after that,

692
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: my next one was Leave the Door Open, which went

693
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: number one, which was years later. Wow, Like as far

694
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: as like overall, how U it hit? Yeah? I might

695
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: have had some R and B ones but sort of.

696
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: But Feedback also And when I said, because I know

697
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Feedback is a hit record, yeah, I'm saying for you. Yeah,

698
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: because Feedback was also a co production for you, right.

699
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah it was at least that's what it

700
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: says on it. But yes, but you.

701
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 1: Get what I'm saying. Where you know where someone's like, okay,

702
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: d Mile did right exactly.

703
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: I guess it depends on how you look at a

704
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: hit because I mean after after I left. I think

705
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: one thing that that really did another transition in my

706
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: life for me was starting to be able to executive

707
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: produce projects. Okay, so the first project I executive produced ever.

708
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: Shout out to Sean Barron. Yeah, man, he's killing everybody

709
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: saying like literally there's like three of us, yea, look

710
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: like all related. But he gave me my first shot

711
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: at executive producing Diggie Simmons' album, his first album, which

712
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: Tank was.

713
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: On he did, uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was

714
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: that was my joint. Yeah so you did the whole

715
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 1: Diggy album.

716
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did like half the album, Okay, but I

717
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: over you know, I helped oversee everything, you know with everybody,

718
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, that was like my first thing. I had

719
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: my engineer mix almost every song, if not every song.

720
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was like my first real thing. And

721
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: then after that, Sean Brown again introduced me to the

722
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: Tie Dollar Sign where we got to work on the

723
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: Free Free TC album.

724
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Okay, and I think I thought, I thought, I know

725
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: you did stuff on Beach House. I didn't know you

726
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: did stuff.

727
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all yeah, my bad, all the mixtapes and EPs.

728
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

729
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: I was on every project of Ties up until honestly

730
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: his last project. I didn't get to do enough course

731
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: of Kanye stuff, but every other project before that, but

732
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: Free TC, I think was the you know when that

733
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: came out, in the reaction to that, I think that

734
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: that did that did something for me for sure.

735
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the calls were a little different to that point,

736
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: not me, because I think Ty caught a lot of

737
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: people off guard. Yeah, people didn't know how talented, how

738
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: musical how great yep, tie you know what I mean.

739
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: So obviously being a part of that, I'm sure the

740
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: phone calls were definitely like, oh yeah, yeah, I need

741
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: some of that sauce, because that's that's our business right

742
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: where it's like something jumps off right now, Leon Thomas,

743
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to figure out how to get to every

744
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: single person that played whatever part yep in that album

745
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: exactly just how it goes. So no, I absolutely understanding

746
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: and get that. Let's get to Bruno how the fuck right?

747
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: Because like listen, music business and music business. Yeah, yes,

748
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: we be knowing each other. Yeah, we come across each other, yep,

749
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: but it don't always turn into we're gonna work together now,

750
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: especially with them and them already having their production team.

751
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly.

752
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: How did that work for you?

753
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: So funny enough, I feel like my story in my

754
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: life in music it just had like different phases. So,

755
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: like as I was saying about the time dollar thing,

756
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: how that kind of shifted stuff for me. Another shift,

757
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: and probably the biggest shift that really changed everything for

758
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: me was working with Lucky.

759
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: Day, one of my favorites.

760
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was at a time when both of us honestly,

761
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: and even my engineer all kind of felt like quitting. Yeah,

762
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: we don't want to do this, you know, like I

763
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: don't know I was gonna go home. I don't know

764
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: what the fuck I was gonna do.

765
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, biggie rap song.

766
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: I was just I was definitely at that point where

767
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: I felt like I knew I wasn't going to do it,

768
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: but I was like today, I feel like quittin. And

769
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: I even posted it and everything, but uh, you know

770
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: some people, those guys.

771
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, not only hey guys, right, I'm quitting right.

772
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: It was the only time, yeah, right, But anyway, he

773
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: just happened to come to me right around that same time,

774
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: right on time, and he said to me, like lucky

775
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: he sat down with me. It was like, Yo, I

776
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: think I want to do a project, and this is

777
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: gonna be my last attempt and if this work, that

778
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm quitting. Right. So I was just like fuck everything else.

779
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: He's not signed, but I don't care. Let's just like

780
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: he played me like two songs he already had with

781
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Camper at the time that's on the album, and I

782
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, let's just work. And we spent like

783
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: maybe months to a year working on that project, and

784
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: it was just us having fun, not giving a funck

785
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: about what anybody else thinks, not caring about how it's

786
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: gonna come out or whatever. Let's just do this for us,

787
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: and let's just see what happens.

788
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: Are you writing and producing for anyone else at the.

789
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: Time, probably on and off, but my main focus was him.

790
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: I had some you know, I had some pub pub money.

791
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: You know, I had by that time, I had a

792
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: publishing deal, like another one that was way more than

793
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: my first. So I was something.

794
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: You brought equipment again, just more equipment.

795
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I bought a bunch of shit equipment cars. Okay, okay, yeah,

796
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: that's I know.

797
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you get your studio. You still ride

798
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: the goddamn bus, all right.

799
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: I had like four BMW's in my life, just back

800
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: to back to back to back, and I'm sure all

801
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: of that was part of that. But yeah, man, we

802
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: started working, working, and then you know, one thing led

803
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 2: to another and another. He got a deal, shit came out.

804
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: Response was crazy, and that's the painted out, man, And

805
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: that's the painted album.

806
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: Great album. Yeah, you know, ros is one of my

807
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: favorite songs.

808
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Which was the first I think it was the first

809
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: song we did. Once we decided we were going to

810
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 2: work on the product.

811
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's great. Yep, yeah, I would have kept working.

812
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. So what a year later, I was

813
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen it came out. Yeah, So like the end,

814
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: like August twenty nineteen, I got a call from James

815
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: foonn Lloyd, who I know was on the show That's

816
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: My Guy. He hit me on a Wednesday and he's like, yo,

817
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: what you're doing on Friday. I'm like, I'm not doing that.

818
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm doing nothing. Bruno wants you to

819
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: come by. He wants to meet you, and I'm like, okay, cool.

820
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: So at this point you never met Bruno. He never.

821
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: I actually had.

822
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: Him once one time. He had an artist that you

823
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: know at the time that he was trying to He

824
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: was trying to do the exact thing. Yeah, it didn't

825
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: work out, but I was working with her and he

826
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: came in the room and kind of helped us with

827
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: a little bit. He doesn't remember this. So I met

828
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: him that one time, and I remember going in the studio.

829
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: I was on the phone with my partner brother Sean.

830
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm supposed to be working with Bruno,

831
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: got this artist name blah blah blah, and then I

832
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: look up and he's sitting there like, oh shit, So

833
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: that was funny. But so yeah, that was that was

834
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: like a quick meet, but because the real meat was James.

835
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, wrote on the twenty four car Magic and no

836
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, no, no, I know that. Oh yeah,

837
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: but he wrote on the Last Train of Paris record. Yes, okay,

838
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: so now yeah, yeah, I'll put it all together, yep, okay,

839
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: from when he was working with Justin and they're doing

840
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: what would they they were the Wise Yes, okay, yeah, yeah.

841
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: So I've known him since Rodney days, like I've as

842
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: soon as we moved out here. He was like one

843
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 2: of the first people I met, follower.

844
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

845
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

846
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: So now he's making a phone call to you. Yeah, Bruno, want.

847
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: To high at you, right, and we're getting the studio.

848
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: We're talking, he's You're feeling me out. We're just talking

849
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: like he's asking how how do I work and all

850
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: that stuff. I remember telling him like I'm pretty much open,

851
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 2: you know, whatever you need. And the first thing we

852
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: start working on, honestly, is a version of leave the

853
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Door Open. It was called something completely different. That was

854
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: the first thing was it was a completely different.

855
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: I know what I'm going to do when I come

856
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: to your studio. Actually, since I'm here today, I'm going

857
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: to say, Hey, what is the first thing you've done?

858
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

859
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: Play that for me, right, because it's something to that.

860
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he man, he's a genius

861
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: first off, yessay. So he already had the idea for

862
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: the concept and he was just playing around with kind

863
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: of the world of where he wanted it to go.

864
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: So that version nobody will ever hear. But that was

865
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: literally the first thing we worked on. It wasn't like

866
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: I had a track and we were working on that.

867
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: We built something from scratch and it was built off

868
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: of whatever idea he kind of was having at the time.

869
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: Was it intended for Sokonic?

870
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: No, At that time, none of us knew what it

871
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: was like he was writing. Yeah, he was just writing,

872
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 2: you know. I mean that's kind of how he works.

873
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: He'll start writing and then try to find the world

874
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: in the process, and then once he has that Eureka moment,

875
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, now I know what we need to do.

876
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: So at that time, he didn't know what he was

877
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: trying to do. Just knew he was trying to work

878
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: on another project, and then we actually were working on

879
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: something else on the side at that time, so we

880
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: kind of had like two different focuses. And then the

881
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: pandemic happened and everything slowed down, so that kind of

882
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: changed that exactly. That kind of fucked up that side thing.

883
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: But you know, we went back to leave the door open.

884
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: We actually did smoking out the window before the pandemic happened,

885
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: and that was kind of what birth the idea of

886
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: the group of the group.

887
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, smash yeah, smashes.

888
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

889
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: What did that feel like?

890
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 2: Oh man, when it came out or just to.

891
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: When it hit number one, kind of high one on it.

892
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: Man, I remember ship. I think of debut number two,

893
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: and that was great for me already. I was just like,

894
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: I think so like, I think Drake was the only

895
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: person in our way to get it. I did bro

896
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: I can look back and make sure, but I think right.

897
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: But but when we finally hit it, I was just like, Wow,

898
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 2: I finally did it. And it's not that I was trying,

899
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, all this time, all these years, but when

900
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: it happened, it was like wow, and.

901
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: You're fifteen years in at this point.

902
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that, right, Yeah, And I I was

903
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: actually mostly surprised at something being something that musical going

904
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: up that crazy.

905
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, I had a conversation with philil Burns about

906
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: what we have been able to do as black creatives

907
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: with Bruno. Yeah, like our people, you know what I mean,

908
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: And because I'm very honest about what music is and

909
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: what music looks like, right, And I don't know if

910
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: it were in the same space if he's black, right,

911
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm just very honest about that, you know what I mean.

912
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: And I'm very appreciative of the people who get to

913
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: work with Bruno and get that off and be musical

914
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: because I've worked with artists black artists who have taken

915
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: those same type of shots and it's like, yeah, yeah,

916
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: this feel old or this feel, this are this feel

917
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of other excuses other than it's great.

918
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I get that, you know what I mean.

919
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: And the fact that Bruno makes sure he taps in

920
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: and all of y'all that are part of it are

921
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: fucking amazing, bro, And I appreciate that, Like you're my friend,

922
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: but I'm a fan of what you do, Like you're

923
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: incredible Bro, Philip Lawrence is incredible. Brody is incredible. James

924
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: follower in like going down the line a bro like

925
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: the music you guys create, it's timeless. Bruno is a vessel. Yeah, definitely,

926
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

927
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: Definitely, And he studies, man, he studies.

928
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: It's clear. Yeah, it's clear. And like I said, Bro,

929
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm from the outside of it looking in, I'm just

930
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: appreciative that y'all get to get that off.

931
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, making at him crazy, like you sure when

932
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: that ship came out, I was just like.

933
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: And he probably like, why not? It should be that way.

934
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: It should be that way, it should be why not? Right?

935
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: But obviously we got our color lines, we got the

936
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: ship that we deal with within music. Same thing with

937
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: Justin Timberlay. You know what I mean, Bro, it's my dog,

938
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: it's my white nigga out o that man, that's just Jake,

939
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: that's my white nigga. So I understand. Yeah, and I

940
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: get to see it up close, and like I said,

941
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: even from the sidelines of it, I'm super appreciative because

942
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: it's just great music. It's great music. It's it's family friendly,

943
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's it gets risky at some points.

944
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll get to that risk it all work place.

945
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: What I'm doing here, I can play the music with

946
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: my whole family in the car too, you know what

947
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: I mean. And that means something to me as well. Yeah,

948
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: definitely all right, So so yeah, yeah, let's we're gonna

949
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna get're gonna get back on track. Though. So

950
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,959
Speaker 1: now you got these high one hundred number one hits,

951
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: you're going crazy. Then you say, I'm a tap in

952
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: with my partner from a dark Shaw Days, I'm a

953
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: tap in with Victoria. That marriage that y'all have is

954
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: so special. Yeah, and once again from the sideline. I've

955
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: watched it because I never forget. Ghazi, who I grew

956
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: up with in the Bay, caused me one day and

957
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: he says, I need you to meet with this artist.

958
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, what's her name? He's like, uh,

959
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: Victoria Monam Like I think I think I you know.

960
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I heard of her, and

961
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: me and her hop on the phone and we're like,

962
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna go lunch. We go to lunch

963
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: and I look at her and I go, I know

964
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: you and she was like, yes, I know you right.

965
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: It's like, but that wasn't your name, right, But I'm trying,

966
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: you know how, He's trying to figure it out. She goes, No,

967
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: I sang for you signed a dark shout in the group,

968
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: and I go, you're the girl that I pulled riding

969
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: to the side and said her. Wow, everything I love.

970
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: I feel like I might have heard this too, I.

971
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Literally said, because I don't know Roddy had just called me.

972
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: I think I did for something. And y'all it was

973
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: the studio right there off of the one on one

974
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: Meryl Roses or whatever that is over there, and I

975
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: think I think that that was Dimitri Expensive Studio.

976
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: I can tell.

977
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that was Demetri Studio. And they

978
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: sang for me and they were from they were from

979
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: Sack yeah, and obviously I'm from San Francisco. So was

980
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: it that whole you know how she starts Ye, it's

981
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: like it starts formulating as we're sitting there having lunch,

982
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yeah, you've been special.

983
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: YEP.

984
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, you've been special, Yeah, definitely. And you know,

985
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: I ended up finding out, you know, y'all was working

986
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: together because i'd heard your name and I'm like, oh,

987
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Was it just a conversation because y'all

988
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: were already homies.

989
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean a lot of people don't know.

990
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: And I might have said this somewhere, but she used

991
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: to live with me, so ship, yeah.

992
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: Okay, the music business, like, hey man, that needs some

993
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: where to stay.

994
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: So and it's so funny because this was after I left,

995
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: like the Rodney situation. And we had an apartment in

996
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: North Hollywood.

997
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: Neither one of y'all live in apartments no more, yes, boy.

998
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: But we had an apartment apartment two eleven was that

999
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: was our apartment number.

1000
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: But it's like armed robbery. That's two eleven is an

1001
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: arm robbery, you know, that's for that.

1002
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe I should go with a different high number,

1003
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: but that was That's what it is, right. So, but

1004
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: it was three of us. It was a three bedroom,

1005
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: so it was three of us. We were all with

1006
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: Dark Child. One of us was engineer, another one was

1007
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: a producer, and then of course me.

1008
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: But I had just left.

1009
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 2: So how I met Vic was I had a friend

1010
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: that I went to high school with named LaToya, and

1011
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: she was dope saying I used I'm such a fan

1012
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: to this damn slill fan. She's so dope, like she

1013
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: you know, but she called me telling me that, Yo,

1014
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 2: she has an opportunity to be in this group with

1015
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: Dark Child. You know, he's forming a group the groups

1016
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: called Purple Rain. So she asked, because she's from New York,

1017
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: to be able to stay by us while she's like

1018
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: doing the auditioning or whatever they were doing. So I

1019
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, I made sure all my

1020
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: boys was cool with it, and she came, and somehow

1021
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: it turned into all three of them coming and staying.

1022
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: So Vic was one of them. Oh shit, Yeah. And

1023
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: they were there for like maybe a year or two,

1024
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: maybe a year before they found their own place and

1025
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But they were heavily working with

1026
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: with Rodney. So that's how me and Vic met. And

1027
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: you know that that group didn't work out, you know,

1028
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: things happened, but me and Vic just kept that relationship.

1029
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: Stay locked in, stay locked in.

1030
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I think. Everybody's not meant to

1031
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: be in a group, right right right. It wasn't that

1032
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: the group wasn't good, because I remember them, they were dope.

1033
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: She just seemed to be a solo artist to me.

1034
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.

1035
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: You know what I means me, I get it. So

1036
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: been this business alone. I see so many artists, I

1037
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: see so many producers, see so many writers. Yeah, and

1038
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: I just my opinion is my opinion. Yeah, and but

1039
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: I trust it. Yeah, you know like I'm one of

1040
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: those people too though that I trust my opinion. Yeah,

1041
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: right or wrong. You might tap me five years from

1042
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, you said I did that.

1043
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.

1044
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: I thought that shit was go crack. Ye I guess

1045
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: he didn't. Yeah, but I trust my opinion in what

1046
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: I see in Victoria Monett. Yeah, many like that girl.

1047
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's another one, like anything that she ever put out,

1048
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: even from back the mixtapes, the EPs, I was in

1049
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: one way, shape or another part of it. Yeah, and

1050
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: then it just grew and it turned into like you know,

1051
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: the Jaguar album, me executive producing that and you know,

1052
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: or being a big part of that up until the day,

1053
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 2: like she will always work together. That's how I look

1054
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, for sure.

1055
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: Did that success feel different for you because it was

1056
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: ground up and somebody you were in the trenches with.

1057
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so proud when she won those Grammys. Yeah,

1058
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: so proud.

1059
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: I think we all were. Yeah, I mean obviously you

1060
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: were a part of it. But I think the community literally, right,

1061
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: we have we have certain artists that all of us

1062
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: have championed. This is Leon Thomas. I go back to

1063
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: that where people are just like, yes, yeah, Caliney getting

1064
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: a record like Folded, Yeah, yes, yeah right. Because this

1065
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: process that we go through within the music business, this

1066
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: overnight success of ten, fifteen, sometimes twenty years till you

1067
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: get your chance to be who you're supposed to be

1068
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 1: in the game and you didn't quit. People celebrate that. Yes,

1069
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: I know, I do. You know what I'm saying, I

1070
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: absolutely do. I know Tank does Army money. That's what

1071
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: we're about. We love to see Hey man, you know

1072
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: that was such and such from Yeah, that's domind Darius

1073
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: that got the the Residuals record exactly. You know what

1074
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I think that is that's something that

1075
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: that it's really cool to watch.

1076
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's important for people to know too.

1077
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: That's what I appreciate you doing this. I appreciate I

1078
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: appreciate you calling me. Yeah, it's been a minute, even

1079
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: on my line.

1080
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: But because once again, bro, if I rock with you.

1081
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: I rock with you. Man, there is no and I

1082
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't care number ones are not.

1083
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1084
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: If I rock with you, I rock with you. This

1085
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: show for me is a labor of love, yes, flat

1086
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: out you know what I mean. For our company, Like,

1087
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: we created this so that we could put a spotlight

1088
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 1: on our people in a positive way and be informative

1089
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: so people could understand the process how this goes. No,

1090
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: this is not overnight success for sure, you know what

1091
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean. It took years to get the Jaguar, for

1092
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: her to have that moment, for her to curate it

1093
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: the way she did, and to do it with somebody

1094
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: who she had been locked in with for years literally

1095
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: a roommate.

1096
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

1097
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: Literally that got to be celebrated. Yeah, it has to

1098
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: be celebrated, bro. So you know that's why for me,

1099
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm with all this. Yeah, you know, I want to

1100
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: have these conversations and I want to talk to the

1101
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: people that really create this ship that we love and

1102
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: that we breathe and that we're part of. How many

1103
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: Grammys did y'all win on that?

1104
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 2: She won three? I got one that year?

1105
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, he is a producer, Guys, he gonna floss

1106
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, might not wear a lot of jewelry.

1107
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: He got hardware right.

1108
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: Right, But for R and B albums, So I was

1109
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: able to get that.

1110
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: For that and then from Silk Sonic Ye three that year,

1111
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: that year.

1112
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: Three that year Record of the Year, and then R

1113
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: and B album again.

1114
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: So bro, song of the Year. Yeah, that's such a

1115
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: special trophy. Like people, they everybody get caught up in

1116
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: a lot of other things. There's so many songs.

1117
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: So many songs.

1118
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the trophy. Yeah, in my opinion, maybe

1119
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: because I'm a songwriter and I just you know, I

1120
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: look at it that way. But that's the trophy. Yeah,

1121
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: one song that means I had the best song this year.

1122
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Whatever y'all could argue. Niggas be hating on the Grammys,

1123
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: niggas hating on everything. Yeah, right, I had the best

1124
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: song this year. Bro? Did you cry?

1125
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: Almost?

1126
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: Come on, Donald, you can shed a thud tier bro?

1127
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I know. But the reason why I cried

1128
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: when we want and that was because literally days before

1129
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: my mom passed away. Yeah, so I dedicated it to her.

1130
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: I choked a little bit, and then I was like,

1131
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: all right, I know, I know they'd be quick with

1132
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: the with the timers. So I'm like, let me just

1133
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: say this is for her and move on. And I

1134
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate Bruno because I think he didn't realize. He

1135
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: didn't know for sure that I was there. So when

1136
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: I when he saw me come up, He's like, I

1137
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: think they had a whole bit and an idea that

1138
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: they were gonna do if they won, which they did,

1139
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: but when he saw me, he just like, now, fuck that,

1140
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: say something for your mom. He literally said that.

1141
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Ship, I didn't know this was gonna happen.

1142
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: Gave me yeah, saying yeah, man. So yeah, he's a

1143
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: real one for that.

1144
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: Bro always man, that's my guy forever. So you know,

1145
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: it was short and sweet, but but it didn't come out,

1146
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: but it was about to.

1147
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah no bro that yeah, and then yeah

1148
00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: it's not over. Actually it's actually just starting. You got

1149
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: a fucking Oscar. Yes, you know who we call it?

1150
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: Forgetting that? Goodoyd calls me old Mark Cuba good right,

1151
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: Oscar Bro.

1152
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: Crazy Finoid calls me Oscar to this day.

1153
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did I say when I walked in here?

1154
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: Where's the Oscar I left at home? Yeah?

1155
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: Is that the villa?

1156
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: Right?

1157
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: It's just there, right, bro, that one was crazy?

1158
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine?

1159
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 2: Not at all?

1160
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: See, because I said ship right, we get in this

1161
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: to win a Grammy. Yeah, we get it to win

1162
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: a Grammy. All the rest of the thing. Niggas start

1163
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: winning Emmys, they start winning Oscars. Actually, so you the

1164
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: third Oscar winner, I know, brilliant? Yeah, man, you Jamie

1165
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: and Michael b Oh, yeah, crazy. I don't think. I

1166
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: don't think. I know no other ones.

1167
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: I might, yeah, I don't think so though you know

1168
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: John Patis.

1169
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: Yet I don't don't. I don't know Jobatz. Amazing, amazing, Yeah, absolutely,

1170
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: I wanted John's pull up, bring the Oscar, bring the Oscar.

1171
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I want that.

1172
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: I mean, you know her?

1173
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't you know her in passing? So she's a

1174
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: lot younger than me. Sure, she's from the Bay Area

1175
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: obviously as well, but she's a lot younger than me.

1176
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: And I had only heard of her years earlier as

1177
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Gabby right, yep, I didn't even know yeah her? Yeah literally,

1178
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: So no, I don't know her. I don't know her

1179
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: all right, So I think I might have met her

1180
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: in passing once, got it, But we don't know each other. Yeah, yeah,

1181
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: amazing incredible. Yeah, how how does that transpire? Man?

1182
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: I was in the middle of working with Bruno, I

1183
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: think on Yeah, it was on the sound album, still

1184
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 2: figuring that whole thing out, and one day I get

1185
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: a call they asked me to come and help her

1186
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: with like she has this this movie that she has

1187
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: to do a song for, and it was Judas is

1188
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: the Black Maside. So I'm like, all right, I'm supposed

1189
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: to be working, but let me see if I can

1190
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: get out or maybe it was like a day that

1191
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: I was off from Brunos. I was able to go,

1192
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: so I went and pulled up on them. We got

1193
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: to watch, like they sent us the movie before it

1194
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: the Room came out, we got to watch it. We

1195
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: had popcorn and all that shit, watched it from beginning

1196
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: to end, and we were like kind of blown away

1197
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: with them with the movie and what the story was.

1198
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 2: And then right after we're like, all right, let's let's

1199
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: try to do some shit, and I'm like, how am I?

1200
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: How are we going to do anything? Because they were

1201
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: asking for something that was like more uplifting and more upbeat. Yeah,

1202
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: the movie is so sad, especially how it ends and

1203
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 2: all this stuff. So I'm like I am not in

1204
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: that mood of being able to do this, so I'm

1205
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: kind of like leaning on ga, leaning on Gabby to

1206
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: see what she what she's feeling, seeing what Tiarra's feeling.

1207
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: And then she picks up a base and just starts

1208
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: mudling around with something, and I'm like, that sounds cool

1209
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: that she puts the base down and goes to use

1210
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: the bathroom. I pick up the base and I don't

1211
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: think I played exactly what she played, but it still

1212
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: sparked the whole thing. By the time she came back,

1213
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: we you know, we had us exactly. We had a

1214
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: track that she was like, oh yeah, I like this,

1215
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: and then you know, her and Tier started writing to it,

1216
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: but it was late, so we got we got I

1217
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: feel like maybe we got to writing a hook or

1218
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: something like that. Then we just called her a night.

1219
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: It was like, we'll come back to it tomorrow. But

1220
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't come back the next day, so I left

1221
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: them with the track. They finished right into it the

1222
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 2: next day and sent me it over and then I

1223
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 2: did some post production, sent it back. They sent it

1224
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: to the movie people. They loved it the whole time.

1225
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking, no, no Oscar is going to come

1226
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: out of this or anything. I'm just like, I just

1227
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 2: wanted to help her. And next thing, you know, shit

1228
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: comes out and it was the pandemic. So like you

1229
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: you watch it from home. Nobody went to the movies

1230
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: to watch it. And now we're hearing Golden Globe talks,

1231
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: Oscar talks and all that stuff. And I had to

1232
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: do freaking zoom interviews with like people, and next thing

1233
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, we're nominated, and I'm like, how the hell

1234
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 2: did this happen?

1235
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: So you had to go on a campaign? Yeah, I

1236
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: did the whole thing. Yeah, I was.

1237
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: I was just riding with her campaign, like yeah, straight up,

1238
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: like the three of us were campaigning, and who the

1239
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: writers on her? It was me, her and Tarotannas.

1240
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, she's dope.

1241
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: Yea. Everything was just moving so fast. It was kind

1242
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 2: of overwhelming for me that that year because that year

1243
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: I also won Song of the Year again that was

1244
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: that was my first Song of the Year, and then

1245
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: a month later I won an Oscar, So.

1246
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what And for my last trick, I've

1247
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: also won Song a Year twice and I'm pretty sure

1248
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: you're the only who's done that.

1249
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: Yes, apparently this is crazy. I'm like, how And I

1250
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: think I'm the first one in thirty five years. I

1251
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: think Lino Richie was the first to win a song

1252
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: in Oscar in the same year for two different songs.

1253
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: I saw that, how are you pouring so much champagne?

1254
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: Good brother, You're pouring so much? Is this? These are

1255
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: the magnum bottles of move that you just you're just

1256
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: pouring out.

1257
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: At this point, I look up, I'm like, how the

1258
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: hell did that happen? Like straight up?

1259
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: And the second year in the road that you wined

1260
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: is for the Leaders are Open. Yeah, And then the

1261
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: first one.

1262
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: Was I can't Breathe with her, oh, which the three

1263
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: of us.

1264
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: I can't breath yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the

1265
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: first one you win, and that's during the pandemic.

1266
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 2: Right, that's during the pandemic. The second one we won,

1267
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 2: the pandemic was over, but we that was the when

1268
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: the Grammars was in Vegas, Vegas, Yes, popping. They should

1269
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: do that one more time at least.

1270
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: Hey, Vey, Army, let's go back.

1271
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

1272
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: The Valentine likes to get good luck out there. Come on,

1273
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: he's ready to win another Song of the Year, right,

1274
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: put it back in Vegas.

1275
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, man, this run insane?

1276
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: Could you imagine it? No? Never?

1277
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 2: You know what I was when I I thought about this.

1278
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 2: When I was younger, the only like vision I had

1279
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: was being at the red carpet at the Grammys, not

1280
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: even winning for some reason. It was just just the

1281
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: red carpet, just the red carpet with my like, my,

1282
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: my lady, my wife, my you know. Yeah, yeah, that

1283
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: actually happened, but like everything else after that was not

1284
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: I just wasn't thinking about that. Yeah, I don't know why.

1285
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 2: That was like the thing above everything else.

1286
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the celebration of it all. Yeah, have you gotten

1287
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: used to it?

1288
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't think so because

1289
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm always like, you know, I mean, it could never

1290
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: happen again. So when it does, do you take all

1291
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: the homies as much as I could?

1292
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1293
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1294
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: How did? How does how does your dad feel? He's

1295
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: your music teacher?

1296
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, He's over the moon. He's always proud.

1297
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: How do you pronounce y'all name Durst?

1298
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1299
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: Because Nigga was gonna call you Durnest. Yeah, yeah, everybody,

1300
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna call you the earnest, like I seen.

1301
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: That's it.

1302
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 2: Trust me.

1303
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: I've heard I've called you know.

1304
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: You want to know the worst thing I've ever heard? Dust?

1305
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how she got it was. It was

1306
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: a teacher in my I was in elementary.

1307
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: She didn't like you.

1308
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 2: I think I said my name and then she was

1309
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: like what Dust, I'm like, no, I said Durnst. Yeah,

1310
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that. I'm like, that was the worst

1311
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: version of my name.

1312
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: So big darn style here flaws right, Yeah, come come

1313
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: learn with me. You want to win an Oscar? You

1314
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: want to win one hundred thousand Grammys? That top my son? Yeah, listen,

1315
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: my son went to Oscar. They'll never hear the end up.

1316
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: No, trust me. My dad, well, honestly it's my daughter.

1317
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: My dad both.

1318
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: Definitely talks about me to his students. But what also

1319
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: happens is my dad will tell my I mean the

1320
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: students will tell my dad.

1321
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, he's like, oh yeah, I heard you had.

1322
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: This song with Lady Gaga whatever.

1323
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: Yep, transitions right, died with a smile. Yeah once again?

1324
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: What the fuck?

1325
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that one?

1326
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: Bro?

1327
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, I.

1328
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: Saw the video. They're performing in front of like forty hundred.

1329
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: Thousand pop Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy.

1330
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio with I'm in a studio with

1331
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: fount le Roy. He's like, look at this, because I

1332
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: also was telling him a story about me having a

1333
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: meeting with this Uh we'll call him an executive, okay,

1334
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: telling me how died with a smile wasn't a hit?

1335
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: Really wow?

1336
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm early yep. I ain't gonna lie. You know.

1337
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: People say, you know, we listening, we don't judge, not me.

1338
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: I listened, and I judge the fuck out of you.

1339
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: This is my camera right here, right, Tiki. It's my camera.

1340
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: So if you say some dumb shit to me, gonna

1341
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: judge you on it. And and I'm like, you're crazy. Yeah,

1342
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: He's like, no, it's residue from its stardom residue. Wow,

1343
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 1: startom residue. Uh huh, it's Lady g guy and and

1344
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: Bruno marsh You can't miss I said. And you also

1345
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: can't forget it right right? And I started singing certain

1346
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: parts and he was like, oh yeah, I said, you

1347
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: want me to sing more? Right, I sing more. This

1348
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: is a smash. So by the time I go sit

1349
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: with Finntleroy at this point, you guys, if you're ruling

1350
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, And I tell him the story and

1351
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: he goes, let me play something, and he pulls up

1352
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: the video of them. I don't know, I don't know.

1353
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't know where they at there somewhere.

1354
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was because I think it was

1355
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: just Got Goy. It wasn't both of them.

1356
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just Got.

1357
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: I think she just got a concert or something. But

1358
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: it was so many people out there, so.

1359
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: Many people singing that.

1360
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't even hear HER's that feel bro amazing,

1361
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: dog amazing.

1362
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: I never had that feeling I wanted. Man, I've been

1363
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: in the hood, right, they singing along the wind weed

1364
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: and you just hear fuck, and I'm like, it's just

1365
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: right right.

1366
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: But honestly, that felt better than the leave the Door

1367
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: Open and all that stuff, as great as that was

1368
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: for me, and that was like my first like number

1369
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: one man when Died with a Smile came out and

1370
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: he held onto that song for like a year. He

1371
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with it yet. We've been

1372
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 2: working on basically the Romantic album, so it was different vibe.

1373
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: But I never forgot about that song. I was just like,

1374
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: how could you?

1375
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: Bro? Yeah from a lyrics standpoint melody. When it gets

1376
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: into the I'm like, ah, what I'm saying because as

1377
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: creatives and honestly I take this, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1378
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: rewind a little bit. The executive that I'm sitting with

1379
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: has never written a song. He's an executive, which we

1380
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: respect them, and I sit on both sides of that fence,

1381
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 1: right like I've signed artists, I've signed publishing deals, I've

1382
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: written songs, I've sang songs, so I have all the conversations, right,

1383
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen what you say. It sounded like a suit. Yeah,

1384
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: you sound like someone who's never written a song and

1385
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: doesn't know when that sweet spot kicks in. Definitely if

1386
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: the world was ending.

1387
01:10:59,000 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: Already got them.

1388
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: I want to be next to you, right.

1389
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 2: Right, exactly? Come on, bro, that's the key part right there.

1390
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: Come on, bro that the hundreds of thousands of people

1391
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: at the concert. I'm going to sing along too. Yeah,

1392
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: how could you not hear that? Yeah? You don't write

1393
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: these songs, right, you haven't written a song. You don't

1394
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: know that feeling, you don't have a heart that what

1395
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: see Now you're going farther. Yeah, you're tricky. You tricky y'all,

1396
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: be letting these people control your careers and listen, it's

1397
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: heartless souls.

1398
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we could.

1399
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: That's another conversation, you know, every now and every now

1400
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: and then, we got to have those conversations, bro. But

1401
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: that song, man is incredible. Man, Thank you, congratulations. Man.

1402
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just glad to have been a part

1403
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 2: of it in any way.

1404
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and as you see, bro, I just

1405
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: I love to celebrate y'all. Yeah, it don't matter if

1406
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm a part of it or not. Our idea wasn't

1407
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: even even if I came to the studio and you

1408
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: played it for me. I'm like, nigga, I heard it

1409
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,480
Speaker 1: right right, like when we did when we did Celebrity,

1410
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: they had just finished writing gone.

1411
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1412
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: But the fact that I could tell the hood with

1413
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: justin yeah, my white nigga, Timberlake had on the way

1414
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: I could. Yeah, we dropped this. He gonna be the

1415
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: white nigga that all the black girls love. I knew it.

1416
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,560
Speaker 1: It's like that record is going to take him to

1417
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: a place that this instinct it ain't did it Yeah,

1418
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: and it's gonna take them there. But then he off right,

1419
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: I just knew it. This is different. So when you

1420
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: get a chance to hear something first, somebody play you

1421
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: a record Tank playing me please don't go. I'm like,

1422
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, Bro, y'all killed this shit.

1423
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: Those were the best, like the joints that you get

1424
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: to here before should come out the best dog and

1425
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 2: the saddest things is like the incredible records that you.

1426
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: Don't ever come out. And I am the friend that'd

1427
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: be like, hey, where is it? Man? That's how it

1428
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: was with No Bullshit with Chris. He played it for

1429
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: me amongst eighty Word, and I said, hey, there's a

1430
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: song that you played three hours ago. Can you play

1431
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 1: that one again? It's like it's something about Bush.

1432
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, oh nigg I look that yeah, please.

1433
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: Play it again. Because when you get to hear that

1434
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: that man, Bro record Plan. I still remember it. Yeah,

1435
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: oh record plan Man, he's playing me. He plays me

1436
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: No Bullshit and induces Oh yeah, amongst the other records.

1437
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm just like, nigga, those two are you got to hear?

1438
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: Bro As Clive would say, those are all timers. Yeah right,

1439
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: it's an all timer, right, you know what I mean,

1440
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: a real copyright, bro, like you got real copyrights out here.

1441
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: Don man. I just looked up and yeah, you have

1442
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: you you.

1443
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: Know, and this is in your business a little bit.

1444
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: But uh, I know they've been calling. Have you done

1445
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: the catalog deal?

1446
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 2: No, but yes they have been calling.

1447
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on that.

1448
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm kind of like you're on the fence. Yeah,

1449
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure yet. Yeah, but but I'm I should

1450
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: learn a little more. But I'm learning and kind of

1451
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: understanding kind of the things you can do.

1452
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: It's a real conversation within our industry now, yep. And

1453
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: everybody can't do one right. People be talking about it.

1454
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, Nigga, yeah, you placed half a song talking

1455
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: about you doing a catalog deal. I ain't doing no

1456
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: catalog deal, relax right, Yeah. But then there's guys like yourself, Yeah,

1457
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: who these records are so massive and you've done so

1458
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: many of them, and then they come to you and

1459
01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: they're talking these multiples this ten, twelve, fifteen some odd

1460
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: X deals. How do you turn that down?

1461
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think everything that sounds good

1462
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: is good.

1463
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: Respect. You know, all money ain't good money.

1464
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all money ain't good money.

1465
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: Bad money.

1466
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is where I'm at. I just don't

1467
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: know yet, and I usually don't like to move until

1468
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: I fully understand something. But that's I guess that's where

1469
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm at. And you know, like I did learn that

1470
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: you can you don't have to sell your whole shit,

1471
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: you know what, I mean to do pieces pieces, get

1472
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: some of it back later or whatever. I'm just like, okay, whatever,

1473
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna worry about that now. But maybe one day.

1474
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, But at the moment, no turn out to the

1475
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: catalog companies, though, because I do like the work that

1476
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: they're doing, and I.

1477
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 2: Like, say, what you think, what do you think about it?

1478
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: What do you think I should do?

1479
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: What I think you should do? Keep writing massive records? Bro? Yeah,

1480
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: you don't because I look at that as one. If

1481
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: you need the money, right, let's be honest and be

1482
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: honest with it. If you need the money, clearly you

1483
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: don't be buying bullshit and change and ship, so you

1484
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: don't need the money. You know how to survive. You

1485
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: survived out that. You know that that bonus that you

1486
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: got earlier a hundred years ago, you know you did that.

1487
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: You know you know how to do well with your money.

1488
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: You don't mind living in an apartment if you got to, right. Yeah,

1489
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: and that's just from the financial literacy side of the

1490
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: music business people. You know, we do a lot, we

1491
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: do too much at times, right, We go beyond our

1492
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,560
Speaker 1: means and it puts us in spaces where we have

1493
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: to do those type of deals. So you asking me

1494
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: about you just the demail, I know, I don't think

1495
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: that you need to do it. And I think that

1496
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: as you continue to grow your catalog, it continues to grow,

1497
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: the numbers grow, right and if like as in anything,

1498
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: when if you if you have a chance to wait,

1499
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna probably be greater later exactly. Yeah, But I

1500
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: do like, I do like the work what they're doing.

1501
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: I really like Harvard View and what they're you know,

1502
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: what they've been doing with people. I just actually went

1503
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: to one of their events that they did. They did

1504
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: that they did the deal with with Quincy Jones' State, Yes,

1505
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: and I went to their event super Dope. They throw

1506
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 1: fairy fly events, and I like what they're doing. I like,

1507
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I've had conversations with them about how

1508
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: they do their business. So understanding it more like you said,

1509
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: there is there's more than one way to skin the

1510
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: cat for sure. So, but I do think it's it's

1511
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: been a great influx of capital within our industry.

1512
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, and for the for the people.

1513
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: That have been able to, you know, to do those

1514
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: deals that may have needed those funds to either go

1515
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: start another business, get out of them, some people getting

1516
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: out get out of the music business, or if it's

1517
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: in estate plan or whatever it is. Listen, sense it's

1518
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: banking for us, which we've never truly had real banking

1519
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: within our industry.

1520
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: That's real.

1521
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: It's super upside down. If you that advanced quote Uno

1522
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: uh quote unquote loan, Yeah, exactly, and the terms of

1523
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: that loan, it's really bad for us. So you know,

1524
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: they were talking, they know, they've been talking real numbers

1525
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: with the catalog thing.

1526
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

1527
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I just you know, I wanted to

1528
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: ask you about that because everybody's not in position for

1529
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: that for it to be advantageous for them and for you.

1530
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: It is if you wanted to it's latest Bruno album. Yes,

1531
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: was it like top secret, We're gonna, We're gonna, we're

1532
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: gonna lay low and just and do some cool ship.

1533
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: I had heard about it a little, but it wasn't loud,

1534
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: and I felt like that was on purpose and I'll

1535
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: be hearing about everything. Yeah yeah, yeah, but it was

1536
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't loud at all.

1537
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

1538
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: You know, Bruno got some shit gum real Yeah yeah yeah,

1539
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: demil ain't work with nobody else right now? Yeah, Philip Lawrence,

1540
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like James foonn Leroy is

1541
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: kind of low key and ah how long was that process?

1542
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: I want to say three? I mean if you want

1543
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: to count three years, yeah, I want to say three.

1544
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, people taking three years to make an album,

1545
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 1: just to make it, not even saying between albums, but

1546
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: just saying three years to actually focus on it. You

1547
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: can hear it.

1548
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: Sure, yep, you can hear bro.

1549
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,520
Speaker 1: That album is incredible, Thank you man. The album is incredible.

1550
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: I can breathe now, bro. Yeah, And I'm sure what

1551
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: what what day? They said air tastes different out here?

1552
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: You and Rancho Koupamonga, Now you're the suburbs now with

1553
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 1: it because your debut that number one.

1554
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: First time for him and definitely first time for me.

1555
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: But for him, that's crazy for y'all, Yeah, for both

1556
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: of us.

1557
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: Yes, once again. Bro is it Is it a new

1558
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: feeling though, or is it like I know what this

1559
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: feel like? But keep keep it real with me, dog.

1560
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: It was a little both.

1561
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it was a little both.

1562
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean it was just like ship we did again,

1563
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: all right? Cool? But yeah it was familiar and I

1564
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: was just like, honestly, after working on the Silksonic album,

1565
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 2: you know, and I always tell people like working on

1566
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: that because I didn't know how hard it is to

1567
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 2: work with him in a good way, but it was.

1568
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: Draining for me. And shout out to Anderson Park too. Yes,

1569
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: shout out to shout out my fellows and Blazian brother. Yes,

1570
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We got to stick together.

1571
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so shout out to him because Sonic is incredible.

1572
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: He killed it.

1573
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that took a lot out of me just to

1574
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: just just how hard we had to push to even

1575
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 2: get get that. So when we came around to working

1576
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: on this project, it was a lot of kind of

1577
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 2: the same things. But because I'm used to it, I'm like,

1578
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: I know, this is all gonna make sense once it's over,

1579
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: once it's done, once he like sees the the movie

1580
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 2: like the completion of it, like it's gonna work, and

1581
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 2: he's gonna make sense of it all. And at times

1582
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: where I'm just like, I don't get what he's thinking,

1583
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: or he might not get what I'm thinking, or whatever

1584
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: the heck, and it just all comes together. He he

1585
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 2: just knows how to deliver when it's time. So I

1586
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 2: trusted it so much more this time. And it was

1587
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 2: just kind of like going with the flow a lot

1588
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: of the times. And even as far as it's coming

1589
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: it out, coming out, just seeing the result of it,

1590
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm going with the flow of that too. I'm just like, Yep,

1591
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: he probably knew that was gonna happen, and he knew

1592
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 2: this was gonna happen, you know what I mean.

1593
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: And just like, do you have you have a number

1594
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: one meter in your head? No, you can't hear it?

1595
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 2: No I don't. I don't like to think like that.

1596
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's probably why God ain't never gave me

1597
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 1: a hot number one. I'd be like, yeah, yeah, right,

1598
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: I did it. I know, I did it. Wait it didn't.

1599
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: It didn't. It didn't go high number one first. Maybe

1600
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: next week is gonna do it.

1601
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe only once in my life I

1602
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: might have called something smash. It might've been the Janets off,

1603
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 2: but I've never really made claims like that.

1604
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1605
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1606
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: And the first time I heard blame it, I was like,

1607
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, oh my god.

1608
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well other people's records, I probably might do it,

1609
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 2: but yeah for my stuff, no, but yes, blame it shesh.

1610
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: Honestly go back to you know, when when Tank sent

1611
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: me the initial idea of when we he tells the story,

1612
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, neg yeah, oh they gonna sing this.

1613
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like you.

1614
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: Don't think it's too I know, it's no, it's perfect, bro,

1615
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: It's yeah, let's take it from there. It's aggressive. It

1616
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: got to stay aggressive from all this. Yeah, you know,

1617
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, bro, you what you'll do with that album? Uh?

1618
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: And I told Philip when he was when he was

1619
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: on the on the podcast, is my favorite record on there.

1620
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: It's probably because I told juvenile sample. Yeah, I'm another

1621
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 1: nigga man working that back. I like it like that,

1622
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: to do it, I have to do it, come man.

1623
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 2: He was like, man, do we do do we give

1624
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: up the money? I'm like, yeah, dog is worth it?

1625
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: Dog listen.

1626
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: He did. He did it on on with the what's

1627
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: the sample? What's my guy.

1628
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 2: Man, Oh god, I'm tripping to gold all in my

1629
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: chain exactly.

1630
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: Don't believe me, Just don't believe me. Just watch you

1631
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 1: gotta know when it can't be switched exactly. Hey man,

1632
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: what they want?

1633
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: Yep?

1634
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: They want eighty? Yes? Oh so we gotta split twenty

1635
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: percent between four of us, right, hey man, whatever it's

1636
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: worth it. Sometimes I live by one hundred percent of

1637
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: nothing is nothing. Yeah, give me a slice of the pie.

1638
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 2: Yep.

1639
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: How many of us in this room right now? Okay, okay,

1640
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: this is what it's split up to be with that.

1641
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:07,879
Speaker 1: Let's rock Yep, it's cool. We get on the next one. Yeah, exactly,

1642
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 1: because the reup is the reup when you're a part

1643
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: of something special and something that's earth shattering, life shaking

1644
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: with y'all have been partner. Come on, bro, that conversation

1645
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: goes far beyond. If I walk in the room and say, yeah, yeah,

1646
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: you're not roll risk it all right, every ear is

1647
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: going to perk up. Yeah, just is what it is,

1648
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: and they made I might have just said risk you no, no, no, no, no,

1649
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: we should instead of trick it all, trick it all,

1650
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 1: we should risk it all right and walk off the

1651
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: road Boom and now part of the record.

1652
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: You're on the record, no matter, don't nobody know, no matter,

1653
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: You're on there.

1654
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: And now I get to write for Rihanna, right, Olivia

1655
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Dean Victoria Mode exactly. You know what I'm saying. So

1656
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm all for. Yeah, if what have you got? If

1657
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: things need to be shifted around and tweaked to get

1658
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: to that hit, you gotta get to it.

1659
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: You gotta get to it.

1660
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 1: You gotta get to it. So you got a label, Yes,

1661
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: I do, So you know I knew that was coming,

1662
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 1: and so you know what I mean, you gotta have

1663
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: a label. You got all these hits? Yeah, how long

1664
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 1: were they pitching? All right, we're companies coming to you.

1665
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: No, because not a lot of people knew. I think

1666
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: there was one label that that knew that we were

1667
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: trying to start.

1668
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: That and and as y'all can see, this is the

1669
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: label Van Van.

1670
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: Yep so, and we wanted to go with this this

1671
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: guy and and and the squad, but things didn't work out.

1672
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: And you know, the initial dude, you were going to

1673
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 1: do Yeah, okay, so the first one they go through.

1674
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: It didn't go through. It didn't work out. Still, my

1675
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: whole meed forever, you know. But then the Disney thing

1676
01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: came came up?

1677
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: So did Mickey Mouse call you?

1678
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: Micky called me.

1679
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: Because you know my next thing, I got kids, right, tickets?

1680
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: Now I want tickets. I won't I won't pass this.

1681
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: I want to be able to go when I want

1682
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: to go.

1683
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: That's what I meant.

1684
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, we got to clarify in our

1685
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: community because you know what I mean, Like, hey, man,

1686
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: he told me, I'm good, and then the next time

1687
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't good. I'll be waiting at the at the

1688
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: at the Disneyland door like this. No, I talked to

1689
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: de bau he said. Mickey said, wait, so okay, yeah,

1690
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 1: you do a deal with Disney. Please explain, man, I

1691
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: clearly have never done a deal with Disneyland. So Ship well,

1692
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 1: you can't cut because we're talking about Mickey. Now. You

1693
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: know they take they got the Disney clauses, and ship well,

1694
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: I ain't got I ain't Disney. So hey, listen you

1695
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse, motherfuckers, let's do this deal. I'll tell you

1696
01:26:59,000 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 1: that ahead.

1697
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, we were just we were just in the

1698
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 2: process of forming this label together, and you know, we

1699
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: just started getting around who's at Disney, like like, well

1700
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: they got Disney music that.

1701
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Tapped in with you though, like you give me a

1702
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: little breakdown, got me?

1703
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 2: Okay, he's an executive, you know, one of the top

1704
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 2: guys at Disney Music Group. And I know they focused

1705
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: on like soundtracks mainly and all that stuff, but they

1706
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: also have artists and all that stuff.

1707
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 1: But this is not because because it's not Hollywood, because

1708
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: Hollywood Records was a part of Disney too, correct, Am

1709
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: I right?

1710
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 2: They're still around two I think? Yeah, okay, yeah they.

1711
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: Are because they were doing I want to say, I

1712
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: want to say, like Trevor Jackson if or not even maybe,

1713
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: but like all the young like the Jaydens and when

1714
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: they were all kids, I think she was Miley Cyrus Hollywood.

1715
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: If you were singing and acting and part of that,

1716
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: you were kind of on Hollywood. I'm proudly sucking it

1717
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: up and doing the artists over there, that sure, probably wrong,

1718
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: but they were okay, right, Simon was on Kiky Palmer.

1719
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: They were over there all up, right, But that was

1720
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: a part of Disney as well, right, is a part

1721
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: of Disney? Yeah, ok still there, okay, but but where

1722
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: you're strictly Disney yeah, the mouse, Mickey and Minnie. Ye,

1723
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Donald Duck in there. Yep, alright, California Adventures. I'm on

1724
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: my way. You know, I've never been to Disney World, right,

1725
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1726
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: Have you been finally once? Yeah? I went after after

1727
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 2: this deal. Yeah did you have?

1728
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: You had like the zoom bass and all the cool

1729
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: ship too.

1730
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 2: We were just I don't remember how I got in.

1731
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: It's one of those you when they were I went

1732
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: with people, went by yourself, right with the people.

1733
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: With the guys, you know, the top see here guys,

1734
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Bob and them.

1735
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I gotta I gotta meet

1736
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: the people.

1737
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, to go back though, because I only was there

1738
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 2: for like, I was only able to get on one

1739
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: ride and I had to fly back out here.

1740
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: See this is what happened when when you're too big

1741
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: times the doors start opening up. You think they're never

1742
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: going to close, so you just go on one ride

1743
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: and then you leave. May better take your ass back

1744
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: at die Land. Get on every ride two or three times.

1745
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 2: Yep, and enjoy this ship.

1746
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I had a flight to catch man. That flight could

1747
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 1: the way out of it.

1748
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: Right. I'm going back though, I'm going back for sure.

1749
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Then to slash Disney. Yeah, yeah, the bag, Yeah, it's

1750
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: the bag.

1751
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 2: A lot of great opportunities.

1752
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 1: And is Disney self distributing or.

1753
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: They're distributed under Universal Universal Group? Yeah yeah, soything that

1754
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: that comes out and you know, ultimately goes through them.

1755
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 1: But so tell me about these amazing artists that you

1756
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: that you're signing. Yes, I have three's and now you're

1757
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: Berry Gordy, right, come on, Berry Gordy.

1758
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Like, how did that happen? But yes, I have three

1759
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 2: artists now. One name Rude Cat Okay, he's like alternative,

1760
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 2: he's uh, dark skinned brother, super dope. I love his

1761
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: like his mind, and then and all of that, and

1762
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 2: actually another artist introduced me to him. And then I

1763
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 2: had Tomorris Sin Okay, who's a rapper who's doing her

1764
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 2: thing right now. She's super talented. And you know, for

1765
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: somebody who's been only doing it for like a few years,

1766
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 2: you know, she's she's made.

1767
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: Started, it's made starting to people starting to hear about it.

1768
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, what okay? And then and then we got

1769
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: somebody in the building. Yes, come on, man, come on,

1770
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: come on, come on, do your introductions. Man, come on, gentleman,

1771
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm turning you into a nineties exec. I'll tell you,

1772
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, I mean this how this shit used to

1773
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: get cracked facts. Yeah, so then you know this new

1774
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: artists and we're doing Come on, dog, come on, who

1775
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: we got we got pulling.

1776
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: Up beautiful Indiana Sean, Come on, Sean.

1777
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: Longer introducting you.

1778
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 4: I'm good enjoying this conversation.

1779
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: I got this man to talk you believe that, right,

1780
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: yeah on camera.

1781
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 4: I know he's doing a good job.

1782
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1783
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: He's doing a good job. Barry Gordy. Right, yeah, So

1784
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: come on, introduce the world to yourself. Let us let

1785
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: us know, not even know.

1786
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll let you do it. Do what you

1787
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:33,759
Speaker 2: introduce yourself.

1788
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm India Sean singer songwriter, Los Angeles, California native.

1789
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 3: But I also reap the atl Oh both, yes, both,

1790
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 3: And I'm a van to artist, yes yes, yeah.

1791
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 1: So when can we expect some music?

1792
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of music out there.

1793
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about why you hear today, but you can

1794
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: tell about them. It's just out too.

1795
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 3: But I'm like, you know, let's let's get into what

1796
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 3: that just dropped rain on me? Yes, yes, and the

1797
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 3: EP is here subject to change, and that means.

1798
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be? Is it gonna be changing? It is?

1799
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: It is what it is because it's a lot.

1800
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 4: It's here.

1801
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, which got his other record?

1802
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 4: Okay, but I heard, Okay, I'm.

1803
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Very excited about and I don't give it excited very much.

1804
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I have my moments. This Marmalay record, the men love

1805
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: that one. I really like that record. I really really

1806
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: like that record. It's fun, it's a it's just it's

1807
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: just it's a good time. That's what we need, right,

1808
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: It's like pop soul. Okay, love that to me?

1809
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 4: Yes, to me, it is you know my own Yeah,

1810
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 4: you know it has a disco vibe to it.

1811
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah that is to me.

1812
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Like absolutely could have

1813
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: road skate to it. If I could roll escape been

1814
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: good at it. I ain't gonna lie to you our

1815
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 1: roller skate. Like I'm on the skateboard right, my left

1816
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: foot stay down and I just be kicking my right

1817
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: and then when I hit the corner, I just do

1818
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: like this. I don't move, so it just it takes

1819
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: me right.

1820
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 4: I think they have accessories for that.

1821
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: I wish I would, I wish I would be in there,

1822
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: would roller skate walker, not the Valentine. I already looked

1823
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 1: crazy enough doing the one leg, but I figured how

1824
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: to make it look cool, how to make it look cool.

1825
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: But that song is a standout to me. I really

1826
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: like you. I really like that record, really really do

1827
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: So tell me about your journey to get here, to

1828
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: get here to days a journey it's then, yes, because

1829
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: we met on that journey yeah somewhere, yes, yeah, yeah,

1830
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: when you were in full songwriter mode. Yes, yeah, probably yeah,

1831
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: you were locked into the you know, songs for other people.

1832
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 4: It was it was a short cent, but I gave

1833
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 4: my best effort.

1834
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: What pushed you into that space where it was more

1835
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: of Okay, I'm a focus on being a songwriter.

1836
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think I just saw the potential for earnings.

1837
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Okay, come on, we got to get to the coin.

1838
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: You're real, You'll get into the car. We need you.

1839
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if ya. Y'all probably can't see your

1840
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: boots because were shooting up here. Listen, boots ain't free

1841
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: and they are made for walking.

1842
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I mean, honestly, I was having fun

1843
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 3: at the time. I was writing with my sister and

1844
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 3: a friend of ours, Keisha shout out to y'all and

1845
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 3: we formed a little team called Full Circle. We were

1846
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 3: writing in my dorm room and we actually were having.

1847
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 4: A really good time.

1848
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: So did you go to college in Atlanta?

1849
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 4: I went to Georgia State Universe.

1850
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: So that's what kicked off the Okay, the atl thing,

1851
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: Okay college. The only two that didn't go to college

1852
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: in this interview.

1853
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,719
Speaker 4: I mean industry college you got, you got your music degree.

1854
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 1: You're smarter than us. Go ahead, so Georgia State.

1855
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to Georgia State. I actually dropped out

1856
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 4: when I did my publishing goal.

1857
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you ain't smarter. I went back and I got

1858
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 1: my degree. Should I dropp out of high school? Whatever

1859
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: was not for me? You said, no, no, no, no, no,

1860
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 1: you teachers. I'll be back right, So you go. You

1861
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:30,759
Speaker 1: go back, Yes, your degree?

1862
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 4: I did. I did go back and finish. But in

1863
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 4: between I had come back to l A and I

1864
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 4: was doing the writing thing, that rat race of just trying.

1865
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 3: To get placements and living in the studio and literally

1866
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: literally record Plant. We've all been there and being exposed

1867
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 3: and introduced to so much greatness. I mean, from doctor

1868
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 3: Dre to Chris Brown, all the people everybody, and so.

1869
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: Are you doing more session work? Are just pitching? Were

1870
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,560
Speaker 1: you able to get in rooms and really you know,

1871
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: right with the artist the whole thing.

1872
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 4: No, I wasn't Chris. Yes, okay, we were fortunate to

1873
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 4: work with Chris.

1874
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Shut out to Chris because Chris is so non industry.

1875
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time that because some people

1876
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 1: feel like he's been over over times, he's been too accessible.

1877
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he changed what the superstar can be.

1878
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 1: You can be an accessible superstar, especially if you're Chris Brown,

1879
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Chris Brown got features with

1880
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: people that probably you should have, you know, whatever, you

1881
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 1: can say, I might be one of them. But the

1882
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: fact though, like you said, y'all was trying to get

1883
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 1: in the studio with people and being able to get

1884
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 1: in the studio with a top guy, if not the

1885
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: top guy. It's that's not normal. Yeah, you know what

1886
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean. And there's so many people who have that

1887
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 1: story of oh man, Chris Brown let me in the studio.

1888
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,600
Speaker 3: It was definitely my proximity to the producers that I

1889
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 3: was working with at that time. But I think he

1890
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 3: is one of those artists that just loves music and

1891
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 3: appreciates and recognizes talent, and he doesn't mind giving people

1892
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 3: a shot. And being in the studio with him. I mean,

1893
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:30,799
Speaker 3: it taught me so much because he's such a machine

1894
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 3: like melodies as you're passing the mic around and he's

1895
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 3: not stopped.

1896
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 4: He's the bunny.

1897
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 1: I randomly ended up on a bistape day. I was like, wait,

1898
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: y'all need me to clear what it's like? Yeah, we

1899
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: think you're singing on I was like, for sending it's

1900
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: all out. Yeah there, I go hilarious, Oh it's clear.

1901
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 1: But you're right though. You're in the studio with him

1902
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: and it's literally like, idiot, go lat that down. I

1903
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: just yeah, what you was just having over here? He

1904
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 1: literally operates like that. Yeah, amazing, amazing. So you're writing,

1905
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 1: you're in with Chris Brown, you're making your rounds around

1906
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: La Atlanta. Yeah, what made you say these songs need

1907
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: to be for me?

1908
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, there was a part of that journey

1909
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 3: that was unfulfilling, and I don't feel like I was

1910
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 3: in the most nurturing environment. I don't feel like I

1911
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 3: was in the most safe environment, and I definitely wasn't

1912
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 3: being encouraged to sing so, I mean, I was told

1913
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 3: at some point that I shouldn't even demo songs. So

1914
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 3: my spirit was so crushed at a certain point that

1915
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm going back home to my

1916
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 3: mama's house and going back to Atlanta. I'm to finished

1917
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 3: my degree and I'm just gonna make a project for me,

1918
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 3: like much in the vein and spirit of what Deep

1919
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: and Lucky did at that time, Like I'm just to

1920
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 3: make one album and see what it does, you know.

1921
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 3: And I went home and me and my boyfriend at

1922
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 3: the time, we made my first album Origin. He had

1923
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 3: never produced anything and learned how to produce, and we.

1924
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 4: Made this album.

1925
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm about to learn how to produce. Oh, this is great.

1926
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: That's some think I've never learned how to keep my

1927
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: girl up.

1928
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 2: That's shout out.

1929
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to you, bro. That's incredible. He's special guy.

1930
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1931
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 3: So, and it actually like made some waves in Atlanta

1932
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 3: at the time. I remember my album release party for

1933
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 3: that was like wrapped around the block.

1934
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:38,759
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

1935
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 3: Shout out to Paris Kirk, my manager at the time,

1936
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 3: who just really was doing everything he could to support me.

1937
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 3: A couple of years later, I did a joint project

1938
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 3: with James Fuller with the Outer Limits EP, and so

1939
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 3: as he was talking, I was thinking about how much

1940
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 3: our journeys were kind of interwoven and we're probably like

1941
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 3: passing each other.

1942
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,640
Speaker 1: And at this point, you guys had had met each other,

1943
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 1: we had well we had okay, okay once.

1944
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that is the story. Actually we need to

1945
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 4: tell that one.

1946
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, did my EP with James and worked a

1947
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 3: bunch of odd jobs after that in between just trying

1948
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 3: to figure things out.

1949
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 1: It's the worst job you had.

1950
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 3: The worst job probably selling insurance stole people, Like calling

1951
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 3: numbers all day long and getting hung up on and

1952
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 3: cussed out.

1953
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 1: That was that was worse.

1954
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 4: It's cussing you out, cussing me out.

1955
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 1: I was telling somebody the other day. I was like,

1956
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: I kind of can't wait to be old because I

1957
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 1: already don't really have for sure can definitely get cussed

1958
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: out fucking with me. But as an old man, Yeah,

1959
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be. It's going to be a movie.

1960
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 1: What you said, you, young punk is everything gonna start there.

1961
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 1: It don't matter man or woman what young punks an.

1962
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:03,719
Speaker 1: The baby five, it's gonna do. Push me right, push

1963
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 1: or you can, but it's elderly abuse at that point,

1964
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: so you're the insurance.

1965
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1966
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 3: Well okay, So this is actually a great segue because

1967
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 3: my next worst job was probably delivering food like Postmates.

1968
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:19,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so I moved back out here. I was like, okay,

1969
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 4: I gotta be in La.

1970
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 3: This is where it's happening if I'm going to push

1971
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 3: my music forward, Like this is like I had outgrown

1972
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:24,839
Speaker 3: Atlanta a little.

1973
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:26,839
Speaker 4: Bit, and I was just hustling.

1974
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 3: And that's why I used to pray every time I

1975
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 3: got in the car, Please don't let me see anybody

1976
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 3: I know, because at this point I have a lot

1977
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 3: of industry relationships connects. I'm like, God, don't let me

1978
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 3: see nobody I know. And then I ended up one

1979
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 3: of my friend's names popped up on the thing. I'm like, Lord,

1980
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 3: I gotta go bring this sport some chicken. And why

1981
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:46,679
Speaker 3: I texted myself, I'm about.

1982
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 4: To bring in your chicken. He was like, what are

1983
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 4: you talking about. I'm like, I'm your Postmaates driver, and

1984
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 4: we sat down.

1985
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 3: He was like, what's going on? Why are you doing this?

1986
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 3: Come to the studio tomorrow. I came to the studio

1987
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 3: the next day and made a song with him. His

1988
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 3: manager at the time came right after me and heard

1989
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 3: the song.

1990
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 2: I was like, who's this girl?

1991
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 4: So it'll pull up to you know, my office. He

1992
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 4: became my manager. He introduced me to back to D

1993
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 4: Yes whoa yeah that.

1994
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 3: My relationship with him ended up getting me signed to EPIC.

1995
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 3: Shout out to Zeke, who just.

1996
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, sir, Yeah, what a ceo. Chah, what a guy.

1997
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 4: You deserve it.

1998
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: Zeke, We love you.

1999
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 3: But Zeke signed me to my dialit Epic, and that's

2000
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 3: how I got reunited with d And I didn't even

2001
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 3: he had to remind me of the first time we met,

2002
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:47,879
Speaker 3: which was crazy. I was seventeen yep and Fred Jerkins

2003
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 3: had discovered me online and flew me to Absecon, New Jersey,

2004
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 3: where he was getting his footing Absecon.

2005
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I've never as you can tell, I've never

2006
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 1: been to abswh okay, go ahead, please proceed.

2007
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 4: And I met Lashawn Daniels during that.

2008
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 3: Man and he vocal produced me and and I demoed

2009
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 3: one of his songs there and it was just the

2010
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 3: most beautiful trip until until I had to I had

2011
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 3: to audition basically for Rodney and everybody, the Burchette sisters

2012
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 3: who were there at the time, amazing songwriters, and then

2013
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 3: d was in the room.

2014
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 4: I didn't even know, but he.

2015
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 3: Was there and I had to sing in front of everyone.

2016
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 3: I had a song called Little Sister that I would

2017
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 3: I would murder this song, but I think that was

2018
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 3: the song that I sang, just kids, just.

2019
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 1: Stay there, little sister. Yeah, are you singing about being

2020
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 1: a little sister?

2021
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 3: I was singing to my little sister. Yeah, Like it

2022
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 3: was like a very like comforting song at the time.

2023
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 3: I don't know it was working then.

2024
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm just asking.

2025
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 3: But I started the song way too high and then

2026
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,080
Speaker 3: when I got to the high part, I just collapsed.

2027
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 4: No way to go, Yeah, very dramatically. Yeah. And so

2028
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 4: everybody had to go around the room and say what

2029
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 4: they thought about my performance?

2030
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what do church niggas mean?

2031
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 3: That's so funny that he's a church niggas, because they

2032
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 3: were like, you need to sing a gospel song next time,

2033
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 3: and you need to That was like most of the feedback.

2034
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: What did you say?

2035
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't remember, but I feel like

2036
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 2: I just said something quick, like yeah, I liked it.

2037
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 2: I'm sure I didn't go into no absolutely, Yeah, I'm

2038
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 2: sure I didn't, but yeah, I do remember that definitely.

2039
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 4: But you know, fifteen years later, Yeah, I did.

2040
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 2: A whole project together when she was an epic, before

2041
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: we Go, Before we Go Deeper, and then, you know,

2042
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 2: it just kind of made sense too. Like our friendship,

2043
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 2: our working relationship has been here, so it was just

2044
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 2: like I definitely want to still work with you, but

2045
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 2: also starting a label. You know, it kind of made

2046
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 2: the stars aligned, the timing went, you know what I mean,

2047
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 2: and it just made sense, you know, so it happened.

2048
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: Asked who you delivered your chicken too? Yeah, I don't know.

2049
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 4: Back to the chicken from That's so funny. That's a

2050
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 4: good question.

2051
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 3: My friend Britton Newville. Shout out to him. And I'm

2052
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 3: a little songwriter. You just mentioned Olivia Dean. He you know,

2053
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,560
Speaker 3: has worked with her and so many other people. But

2054
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 3: and he wrote CALLI Love with Me.

2055
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 4: Indeed. Yeah, shout out to Britain.

2056
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Britain who needed some chicken? And if

2057
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: you didn't this.

2058
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 4: It's crazy how it all works together.

2059
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse. If if you don't need you have to

2060
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 1: deliver that chicken that night, right, I want to. I

2061
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: want to expound on that a little bit though, And

2062
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to glance over the fact that you

2063
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: came back and got a job, because no, no, don't

2064
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: row your eyes. Don't know, because even with the degree,

2065
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: with the right like, life is life. And I say that,

2066
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: and I said, don't roll your eyes, because so many

2067
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 1: of us in this industry get caught up thinking we

2068
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: can't work right, we can't have a job outside of

2069
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: working within the industry. And I just want to highlight

2070
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 1: that and tell you that I commend you for that,

2071
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 1: for putting your ego to the size all it is.

2072
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: All it is is ego for all of us, however

2073
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 1: we present our projector or whatever you want to call it.

2074
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: A lot of times it's just ego getting in a

2075
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: way of like, I gotta eat, take care of myself,

2076
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 1: and I got to I got to take care of

2077
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 1: myself to get to the points that I'm trying to

2078
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: get to without having to do things that are against

2079
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 1: my morals. Because having a job ain't against your morals.

2080
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 1: Some of these other things that people are doing are

2081
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 1: against morals, and they're moral compass. And sometimes when they

2082
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,719
Speaker 1: don't like how that played out, now that's somebody else's

2083
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 1: fault instead of get your ass a job. And that's

2084
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: why I said, I wanted to highlight that and commend

2085
01:47:57,360 --> 01:47:59,799
Speaker 1: you for that and tell you I got the utmost

2086
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: expect for you. Thank you for doing that, because ninety

2087
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: five percent of the artists, the producer, the creatives with

2088
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:14,679
Speaker 1: a starved or done something that that maybe they weren't

2089
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: proud of instead of getting a job.

2090
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 3: Right, I never wanted to have the struggling artist storyline

2091
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 3: where I'm like, well, sleeping out of my car like

2092
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 3: that would never Yeah, that never appealed to me. It's

2093
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 3: like I want to be able to eat, yeah, and

2094
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 3: before my show, clothes and whatever else.

2095
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 1: So I hustled. You were your your investor, you were

2096
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: invested in yourself. Would you get your.

2097
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 3: Degree in sociology and nonprofit because I was trying to

2098
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:42,719
Speaker 3: change the world.

2099
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 1: And change the world. That's why we're doing songs called

2100
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 1: lesis because we want to we want to motivate the baby.

2101
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: Because I see what you was doing. Listen, I'll tell

2102
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 1: you I'll be doing this figuring it out. I'm like, oh,

2103
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: that's why I together why from the chicken to the yeah,

2104
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,799
Speaker 1: this saying because sometimes you got to deliver the chicken

2105
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 1: to get to the chicken. So now that we're here

2106
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: and we're getting to the chicken, right subject to change.

2107
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Marmulaye rain on me hollow. How does it feel to

2108
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: be in this space now and doing your project, signed

2109
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 1: to a major label, signed to one of my favorite

2110
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 1: producers in the world, Graig, How does that feel for

2111
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: you now to have that you know that moment.

2112
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's the greatest stamp of approval.

2113
01:49:35,479 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 3: And I think with all of the ups and downs

2114
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 3: and discouragements, I mean, who better to validate me and

2115
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 3: give me an opportunity than the greatest the goat, my

2116
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 3: favorite producer and such a great person, you know. So

2117
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 3: I feel extremely grateful and I feel like I need

2118
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 3: to show up in every possible way to maximize this opportunity.

2119
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 3: You know, make the best songs I can make, have

2120
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 3: the best energy I can have when I walk into

2121
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 3: a room, and just like give my all to this

2122
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 3: opportunity because it's.

2123
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 4: Been a long journey.

2124
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you see for yourself?

2125
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 4: I see hit song? Come on, come on, I see

2126
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 4: some of them Grammys and Oscars.

2127
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 1: You should, you should? You should, like steal one.

2128
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, just borrow one, just for the manifestation of it all.

2129
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: Just keep it and he won't even know it's gone.

2130
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 4: So generous.

2131
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 1: Just put it, you know, put on your knights then

2132
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 1: just look at it. Yeah. No, I never I never

2133
01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: forget being at at at David Foster's house and he

2134
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 1: was using one as a paperweight.

2135
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:49,759
Speaker 2: Flex by the way, nice flex. David Foster.

2136
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: Linda invited me bro yep. You know I was young.

2137
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 1: I was writing cool records and she was like, you

2138
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 1: think you can write those records with me and David

2139
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, invite me over right. Sheeshus has a paperweight.

2140
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:11,640
Speaker 1: It's possible to do so much that sometimes it's just

2141
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 1: holding down the paper that was poetry. This ship is,

2142
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, the opportunities that we get in this is

2143
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 1: it's as endless as we wanted to be. So to

2144
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: see you now, same girl. I saw writing for other people,

2145
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 1: and now you've been able to write those songs for yourself.

2146
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 1: It's really cool. And this is one of my favorite

2147
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 1: parts of the music business. Everybody has their stories, everybody has.

2148
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 2: The horror of it all.

2149
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't because I get to see this

2150
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: and I get to see people be you know, put

2151
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,759
Speaker 1: in a spotlight. And now I've been able to create

2152
01:51:56,080 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 1: something with my business partner that magnifies that.

2153
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:02,679
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yep.

2154
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful and I'm thankful for y'all even being

2155
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: here and for you know, and thankful for you man

2156
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 1: man being able to pull up to y'all studio and

2157
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 1: hang out with y'all and talk about the journey and

2158
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: and be early. Yeah, right, because I feel like this

2159
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: is early. This is early for me, and we've been

2160
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 1: early on a few projects where it's like Coco Jones,

2161
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 1: she's about to get cracking. Leon Thomas, he about to

2162
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: get cracking, you know what I'm saying. Like that makes

2163
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 1: me feel really good that you know, they did their

2164
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: interviews even before the full breakout. Yea, So thank you,

2165
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 1: thank you for pulling up this is this is really cool.

2166
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited, proud of you. Thank you. I appreciate that.

2167
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,759
Speaker 1: Just trying to be the king of the pivot without trialing,

2168
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Keep keep that foot down

2169
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: and kid, keep that right one. You know what I mean,

2170
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 1: That right one.

2171
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 2: Gonna keep me.

2172
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna skateboard be the where I gotta go. But

2173
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:00,640
Speaker 1: but this is This is really cool to see that

2174
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 1: you guys now have this label. I'm always in support

2175
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: of us having our own and creating our own things

2176
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: and talking to the La Reads of the world and

2177
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Babyface and Snoop and label owners people who've you know,

2178
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 1: done their thing at a very high level. It's just

2179
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 1: it's Tie Dolla sign. Yeah, Like I was on here

2180
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 1: talking about his label now him and Sean Baron, you

2181
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, it's incredible that we're in

2182
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 1: those positions now and I would love to look up

2183
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: ten years from now you're like, oh yeah, Jay, so

2184
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: but come on, and I'm gonna bring my new artists. Right.

2185
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: So we're supposed to do We're supposed to be able

2186
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 1: to give back, We're supposed to be able to reach

2187
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 1: back to our people, and I think you have been

2188
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: a testament of that, an example of that of the

2189
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 1: artists that you've worked with. And if it's Lucky Day,

2190
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: if it's Victoria Monete, if it's India Sean artists that

2191
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 1: maybe some people in the industry knew already.

2192
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just all my real friends.

2193
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: And then I'm all with helping your friends, right, I

2194
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: gotta figure out some shift. He to help me with

2195
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: where's my where's my Haitian? Patti's at? You promised me

2196
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: some Haitian man.

2197
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 2: That's all.

2198
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: But now I gotta get controversial. So are you better

2199
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 1: than why Cleft? Who? Who's Who's the key man the

2200
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Haitian producers? Oh, he's the man. I can't compare ship

2201
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: what you're doing versus against against guys black.

2202
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 2: Actually that's the thought.

2203
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: The Haitian versus would be crazy.

2204
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 4: I would go up.

2205
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: You think what it would he come out with his guitar,

2206
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: You and your daddy come out? Did he bring out

2207
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Wonder? And he got the family versus? He wins?

2208
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: Man, he wins?

2209
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean.

2210
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 2: Bro right, you got jam Bro, But man, he did

2211
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 2: the foes. He had his own soul ship.

2212
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Someone please call nine one one.

2213
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 2: What are we talking about?

2214
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I got the Santana's joint, my god, City high.

2215
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 4: I was just thinking about cut where.

2216
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get your ass, man, Bro, I just might

2217
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 1: have set you up saying it here. I might have

2218
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: set you up to get bro. I'm not.

2219
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna even say nothing else. Like I

2220
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 2: already know why Cleft?

2221
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, wait for you to get in the hot seat. Bro.

2222
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: We talked, We talked. This is this is egging you on.

2223
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking ship.

2224
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 2: Pull up, pull up?

2225
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: So tickie, what you got for me? Man? You got

2226
01:55:51,920 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 1: you got any cool cool ship? Man? Yeah, I'm fun.

2227
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 1: I'll take it.

2228
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 2: So time.

2229
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 4: T fun.

2230
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 1: You're dousing us all and me songs. You got to

2231
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 1: know me? No, you go, They're wrong this show. Nobody

2232
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 1: want to know. They want to know you.

2233
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 2: Ees you.

2234
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Fu?

2235
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, my good.

2236
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: So we had this special party show. Would you tell

2237
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: us your Yeah, he's still going not the London Yeah, yeah,

2238
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:01,959
Speaker 1: he gonna. He's gonna do his bend knee.

2239
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 2: At the end.

2240
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 1: Will you tell us your top five R and B

2241
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 1: singers and your top five R and B songs? We

2242
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: want to know? Just want to go first one, Let's

2243
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 1: let's go singers. Let's go singers.

2244
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 2: I feel like that's tougher, all right, So let's go songs.

2245
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 2: I gotta say usher, I'm trying to think which song?

2246
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: See you even found the artist? Yeah?

2247
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 2: For me, I love Superstar.

2248
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: Superstar is amazing, It's so good, it's amazing.

2249
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 2: And you worked with us, Yes, I did, I did.

2250
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 2: I wish I did some on the Confession's album. But well,

2251
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 2: I was too young.

2252
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 1: Don't we all know I was old enough, but.

2253
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:50,480
Speaker 2: Make it. Let's go with that. So superstar, superstar, Okay,

2254
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 2: I need a Baker Mmm okay, sweet love.

2255
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: You know Kevi on stage didn't know who Anita Baker

2256
01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: was until like a couple of years. No way, Yeah,

2257
01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still I'm still taking shots that you

2258
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:11,839
Speaker 1: can church Nigga's church Nigga too. But he know Anita

2259
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:16,200
Speaker 1: Baker is sweet love. Okay, so sweet love?

2260
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because I grew up on that, Like that's

2261
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,320
Speaker 2: what my mom used to listen to her. No stop,

2262
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 2: there was another one. Pick one of hers?

2263
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 1: You know you pick?

2264
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:28,880
Speaker 2: I know anyone is good.

2265
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 1: Your demile Okay, it's not d mouth Valentine's top five.

2266
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 2: I was talking to them, all right, I got my one.

2267
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to save it.

2268
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 1: And are you trying to save yeah? I got playing

2269
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 1: spade to hold a big joke all right, Okay.

2270
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:56,440
Speaker 2: Man, I'm on the spot. I can't think of nothing

2271
01:58:56,760 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 2: me see gone? Was you know what? That's pop? Though?

2272
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 1: Listen, that is not pop.

2273
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 4: No.

2274
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna say you.

2275
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Could say something of them ship you wow? Now that

2276
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: it is funny because I hate God actually hate celebrity.

2277
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,720
Speaker 2: I own such a huge Justin timerlay fan first off,

2278
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 2: so I feel like I gotta throw him in there.

2279
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 2: Gone is so good. But man, that first first Fire albums, yeah,

2280
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 2: Justified and honestly Future sex Less Sounds. I feel like

2281
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 2: that changed my whole life. So I want to throw

2282
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 2: throw something in there till the end of time. Yeah,

2283
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: till the end of time. It's one of them in

2284
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 2: this life. Yeah, and there's so many more. So this

2285
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 2: is like, the top five is kind of hard for me.

2286
01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 2: I'm not good at this. So if anybody mad at

2287
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:48,880
Speaker 2: my top five, you exactly.

2288
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 1: Right, enough records and you come on here and do

2289
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 1: your top five right now. It's the Miles top.

2290
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 2: Five, right, I'm listening, Oh my god, Earth when fire, Yes,

2291
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 2: come on, come on Earthman, the Fire? Which one do

2292
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 2: I pick on?

2293
02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:04,959
Speaker 1: Musicians?

2294
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 2: Reasons?

2295
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 1: Reasons that we're here.

2296
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 2: Yep, dah, I could have done some Steve five is

2297
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 2: not enough, Yeah, that's for it, And that was the

2298
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 2: big joker. The joker for me is Michael Jackson Human Nature.

2299
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 1: Get no hands down. I don't know how many times

2300
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 1: you've seen this show, but Michael Jackson common No, I

2301
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 1: don't think it's common, but it's it's definitely been used.

2302
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:37,879
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of Michael Jackson records that people.

2303
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 2: You know, yeah for me, and I'm mad at the

2304
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 2: name Prince.

2305
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what what you got? What you got?

2306
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 2: The first two songs. So I'm gonna say this, I

2307
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 2: was tripping as a kid.

2308
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 1: I did not like Prince. I don't know what the

2309
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 1: fuck I was thinking, but I had this guy. He

2310
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 1: was naked on a horse. I don't know.

2311
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 2: I had this guy that he was an engineer. He

2312
02:00:59,920 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 2: was I think he's still around Pat Viola who put

2313
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 2: me on to two songs I did not even know

2314
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 2: from him, and that was Ballad a Ballad of Dorothy

2315
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 2: Parker and if I was your girlfriend. I was like

2316
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen when I heard him for the.

2317
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,560
Speaker 1: First That's a wild record, right, And then his version of.

2318
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 2: How Come you Don't Call Me? Because I was I'm

2319
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 2: a huge Alicia Keys fan, and I heard her version.

2320
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize it was really his song, you

2321
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But then from that I was

2322
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 2: just like, oh my god. I got to go see

2323
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 2: him in concert at Madison Square Garden. Shortly after that,

2324
02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:38,120
Speaker 2: me and my friend at the time we were like

2325
02:01:38,160 --> 02:01:43,720
Speaker 2: fourteen and Nigga everything of his. But if I want

2326
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 2: to add a bonus like one of those songs. But

2327
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 2: seventeen Days is great too. Purple Rain though, yeah, yeah right,

2328
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 2: talk twelve But human nature, human nature. I just feel

2329
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 2: like when I hear that song, I feel like that

2330
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:02,839
Speaker 2: shit came from heaven. Like they didn't weren't in the studio,

2331
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 2: they didn't fucking like you know Toto.

2332
02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 1: Is and yeah, it makes you smile.

2333
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 2: It just sounds like it just happened. And I don't.

2334
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever heard another record that felt

2335
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 2: like that to me.

2336
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: M Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, because you have that make

2337
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 1: people feel that way.

2338
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad, like all right, Yeah, And Christy is

2339
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 2: my favorite producer of all time.

2340
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Top five singers singers because I'll let you do it backwards,

2341
02:02:30,720 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 1: so it usually stop five singers, stop five songs.

2342
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this song's guyon alright, carry Okay, we get right

2343
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 2: to it. It doesn't matter if it's older than you. Right,

2344
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 2: I want to throw whoever. I want to throw jazz and.

2345
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:49,800
Speaker 1: Oh come on, why not have to what my favorite?

2346
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 1: I love her?

2347
02:02:50,840 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 2: Put Aretha in there, Aretha Frank you like mm hm. Oh,

2348
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 2: Donnie Hathaway, that's so cold fire.

2349
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a cold five. I like it. No

2350
02:03:05,160 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: arguments for me, Now your vote? Ron, Oh yeah, you

2351
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 1: build the ultimate R and B superstar. Mm hmm. You're

2352
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: taking the vocals, performance performance style, the styling, the close,

2353
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 1: the drip, and the passion. So those four elements that

2354
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:33,120
Speaker 1: make this super R and B unicorn icon. Right. Who's

2355
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: gonna sing?

2356
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 2: Mm hm? I'm thinking like super R and B. But

2357
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 2: I want to poppy kind of voice that that you

2358
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 2: know can reach the world.

2359
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:42,120
Speaker 1: Who got the real voice?

2360
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Michael did it, So I'll go with Michael.

2361
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Tito little brother right singing the song right, performance.

2362
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:58,560
Speaker 2: Style Michael, But I'm gonna say it makes the Michael,

2363
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 2: Chris and Usher. I don't know if I could do that,

2364
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 2: but yes, all of them put together.

2365
02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:06,400
Speaker 1: So that okay, so that's a triple threat performance.

2366
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 2: But I also want a musician.

2367
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I like that, Prince. So those four are

2368
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: just prints some.

2369
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 2: More so they dancing, do all the ship, but also

2370
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 2: play every instrument. Fu it, it's my ship.

2371
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:25,320
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine, fine.

2372
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 2: What they can dress like as far as he was

2373
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:31,800
Speaker 2: not friends today. I don't know if that would works.

2374
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: I actually think it would work today, you think so, yeah,

2375
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 1: you just gotta be really great. I would be.

2376
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:36,880
Speaker 2: I feel like it would be today's version of that.

2377
02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 1: You've got to be great? Yeah, you got it and

2378
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 1: own it? Absolutely, that'd be great. All right? So who

2379
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 1: got the drip? For you? If you for this artist

2380
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 1: that we're talking about?

2381
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:51,400
Speaker 2: Though, I loved Kanye's drip? Okay, I know that probably

2382
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 2: is like a but man.

2383
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 1: Which version? Yeah, because you don't want this artist to

2384
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,640
Speaker 1: look No, I don't. I don't want that version because

2385
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 1: that was a version. Yeah, are you want to put

2386
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:05,840
Speaker 1: a pink polo on?

2387
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 2: Kind of like the the the Ano weights and heartbreak?

2388
02:05:10,000 --> 02:05:12,040
Speaker 1: So the window shield glasses.

2389
02:05:12,440 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of fire at least for at

2390
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 2: least for a novel. Maybe not the whole. I'm rolling with,

2391
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2392
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:21,960
Speaker 1: But Kanye, Yeah, I'll just leave that. I mean, he

2393
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 1: sold the most shoes any artists of all time and

2394
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 1: closing ship. So I'm rolling Who's passion? It's something about

2395
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 1: Jazzmine Man very passionate.

2396
02:05:32,480 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 2: I feel like even with like how her acrobatics and

2397
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 2: everything that she does I don't think she's doing it

2398
02:05:39,200 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 2: to show off.

2399
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 1: No, she's doing it because it's really that's what comes

2400
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:45,560
Speaker 1: out exactly. I agree with you, bro, So.

2401
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, if that makes sense, maybe I'll just.

2402
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,560
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna throw a curveball at you who producing

2403
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:58,320
Speaker 1: this artist? Me, Well, I guess.

2404
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:01,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it.

2405
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:06,160
Speaker 1: You shure as your ship. I think he isn't her

2406
02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:10,839
Speaker 1: records of that, right, I believe in you, right, Michael's

2407
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 1: voice and your production. Maybe he asked ship the mixture

2408
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 1: of the twelve niggas that's performing. He mixed a lot

2409
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:22,640
Speaker 1: of people. It was a lot. I don't know about

2410
02:06:22,640 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 1: the window shield glasses for this artist. I don't know.

2411
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 1: But Kanye is the guy, so I have no argument

2412
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 1: on all right, Ticky, what else we got? Mhm, ain't

2413
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:39,240
Speaker 1: saying no niggas a saying no names. Ain't saying no

2414
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 1: names saying no names. You don't say.

2415
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:51,160
Speaker 2: A saying.

2416
02:06:56,560 --> 02:07:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. My personal favorite part of the show where you

2417
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 1: tell us a story funny or fucked up? Are funny

2418
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 1: and fucked up? The only rude to the game. D

2419
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:10,200
Speaker 1: Mile can't say no names?

2420
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:13,120
Speaker 2: Right? This might sort of be a giveaway, but it's

2421
02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 2: a funny story. So I'm still not going to say

2422
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 2: the name, but I'm gonna share the story. Before I

2423
02:07:19,640 --> 02:07:23,280
Speaker 2: moved out here, it was me and two other friends

2424
02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:28,000
Speaker 2: of mine that we're in the process of moving out

2425
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 2: here and trying to figure out how we're going to

2426
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 2: do that and live and all that stuff, because you know,

2427
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 2: at the time, we don't know what LA is. We

2428
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be too expensive, all these things, blah

2429
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And got a call for somebody who's

2430
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 2: out here that we were working with, and he said

2431
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 2: that he would help us with getting finding a place

2432
02:07:55,480 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 2: and go half on is going right, go half on

2433
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 2: it with the three of us, and we came out here.

2434
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 2: He said he actually he said he had it already,

2435
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:13,240
Speaker 2: like he had a place for us already.

2436
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 1: So we came out here.

2437
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 2: And we're trying to figure out, Okay, where are we staying.

2438
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 2: We end up staying at uh. I don't even know

2439
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:25,320
Speaker 2: how to describe this, and I don't want to even

2440
02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:29,080
Speaker 2: get rid the name of that place. But it's a.

2441
02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:35,960
Speaker 1: Church out here in la But y'all staying at the church, Yeah.

2442
02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 2: Well they have. So it's a church that also has

2443
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 2: like a place for trouble.

2444
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 1: Kids to be missionary. Yeah.

2445
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:47,920
Speaker 2: It was a place for like kids like like they

2446
02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:50,800
Speaker 2: you know that probably had like a bad life and

2447
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, trying to change their life around.

2448
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of time. You guys are foster kids now,

2449
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean we might as well have been. Okay, I'm following.

2450
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm asking because I need to know some

2451
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 1: stuff sometimes. Yeah, so staying at the church.

2452
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a bigger building, which it's it used

2453
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 2: to be a hospital, so it still just like a hospital. Yeah,

2454
02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:16,320
Speaker 2: you could see it coming off to one on one.

2455
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 2: You probably know what I might be talking.

2456
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:20,640
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, you stay at the hospital.

2457
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's where all the kids stay. They lived

2458
02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Every room has bunk beds and

2459
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:31,400
Speaker 2: like shared showers. I think, like, you know, I was

2460
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 2: just like, okay, were I was twenty four Okay, okay.

2461
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:39,560
Speaker 2: I think when I moved out of here all right,

2462
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four, and we were in that place

2463
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:52,000
Speaker 2: for like a few days, a few days, and at

2464
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,600
Speaker 2: first I was like, man, this is crazy. We're out here,

2465
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,880
Speaker 2: We're in LA I'm like, I'm not even thinking about like, yeah,

2466
02:09:58,080 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 2: I was still I was kind of blown away by

2467
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 2: what the church was doing. I thought it was great

2468
02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:05,880
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. I remember calling right focusing on

2469
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 2: I see you to get out of everything. Sometimes. I

2470
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:11,760
Speaker 2: remember calling my partners back home, brother Shawn and brother

2471
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 2: Collins and kind of telling him like where we at

2472
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:17,520
Speaker 2: and how you know how it's been so far.

2473
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:20,240
Speaker 1: And I'm telling him like, yeah, they got this and

2474
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 1: they got that.

2475
02:10:20,720 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 2: And You're like, nigga, are you at a foster? And

2476
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, nonah, but it's different. The church is there, right,

2477
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:37,440
Speaker 2: So I'm like after thinking about it, and I was

2478
02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 2: mad at them at first, and I'm like, man, they.

2479
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: Don't get it, man, they don't care. They're trying to

2480
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 1: tell me, brouh, this is not at home. Man.

2481
02:10:48,560 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 2: Hindsight, I was just like, damn no, he really did

2482
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:54,160
Speaker 2: put us up there. And it's just like and then, man,

2483
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 2: there's another side to the story too that makes it

2484
02:10:56,440 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 2: a little worse. So one of us, out of the

2485
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:03,280
Speaker 2: three of us that moved out there was not, for

2486
02:11:03,400 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 2: whatever reason, allowed to stay with us.

2487
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 1: We didn't know that, like we were. We all flew

2488
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:10,240
Speaker 1: out for this guy.

2489
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 2: But this one dude, I guess because he was like

2490
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 2: newer on the on the squad, or whatever. He there

2491
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 2: was some weird, some weirdness going on over there, but

2492
02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:26,000
Speaker 2: we were like, yo, just come with us, just stay

2493
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 2: with us. I mean, it makes sense. We all going

2494
02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 2: to the same place. We all out here for the

2495
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:35,080
Speaker 2: same reason. The next morning, pull up to our first

2496
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 2: day of work, first day of studio, and said person

2497
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 2: sends dude home, ors like just like away, you gotta

2498
02:11:44,360 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 2: figure it out kind of thing. I'm like, what's going on?

2499
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 2: And we go up, me and the other person and

2500
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:54,680
Speaker 2: basically get in trouble for letting him stay with us,

2501
02:11:55,080 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 2: which is a place that's right. I'm like what okay.

2502
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:05,280
Speaker 2: So that was weird and that dude had to figure

2503
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:07,600
Speaker 2: it out because he actually flew out on his own

2504
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:10,680
Speaker 2: just trying to you know, I guess you're going to

2505
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 2: make it, trying to make it, and so he had

2506
02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 2: to just make calls to anybody who he didn't really

2507
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 2: know anybody out there, but he knew a friend of

2508
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 2: a friend that let him stay in the back of

2509
02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 2: something that wasn't and we were really part of it.

2510
02:12:24,280 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 1: Was. It was crazy.

2511
02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:28,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, that that was like my first experience moving

2512
02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 2: out to LA and we didn't have a house. After

2513
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 2: all of that we still had to live on our

2514
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:37,280
Speaker 2: own crib, which, hindsight, I'm glad we ended up doing

2515
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:42,000
Speaker 2: it ourselves because now you know, we didn't owe anybody nothing.

2516
02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:46,200
Speaker 1: Right, right, So but yeah, the thing that lured you

2517
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:49,920
Speaker 1: here was, oh, it's going to be easier because he

2518
02:12:50,040 --> 02:12:52,600
Speaker 1: got half. All we got to come up with is this,

2519
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:55,280
Speaker 1: and he already got the spot, right, y'all don't know

2520
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 1: y'all going to live at the hospital, right exactly? Y'all

2521
02:12:59,280 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 1: know when you're here.

2522
02:13:00,560 --> 02:13:06,240
Speaker 2: I think it was two weeks, sh okay, it was

2523
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 2: two weeks we found and luckily, you know.

2524
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:16,760
Speaker 1: On the bunk bed, on the hospital bunk bed for

2525
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: two weeks after you told me that you had something.

2526
02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, the violence in me. Yeah, yeah, that's probably

2527
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:29,960
Speaker 1: why I don't got all the hit records you got.

2528
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 1: I would have whooped that nigga. I already know at

2529
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 1: some point it's.

2530
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 2: Part of the story. I mean, what you did. No,

2531
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean some of us might have wanted to know

2532
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 2: we did. Everything else was good after that.

2533
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:50,720
Speaker 1: Okay, but then it worked out. Did you ever just

2534
02:13:50,840 --> 02:13:54,720
Speaker 1: keep it real though? Like, bro, I didn't. No, I

2535
02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:55,920
Speaker 1: just need you to come out here.

2536
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was just like they figured out right

2537
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:04,840
Speaker 2: and we did, which is yep. And then yeah, so

2538
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 2: that's I guess that's it. That was, That was, That

2539
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:08,080
Speaker 2: was the beginning.

2540
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 1: It ain't not funny about that story. I didn't. I

2541
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:18,960
Speaker 1: didn't find the humor right. It's like dark humor. Maybe

2542
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:24,720
Speaker 1: nothing funny, fucked up right once again, like you said,

2543
02:14:24,760 --> 02:14:27,840
Speaker 1: it's part of the journey, part of how it goes.

2544
02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:32,360
Speaker 1: And you know, listen, I have my stories, obviously we

2545
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:35,600
Speaker 1: all do. I don't remember getting put in the Foster home.

2546
02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:40,240
Speaker 2: I remember tell I remember telling Actually I think all

2547
02:14:40,280 --> 02:14:41,920
Speaker 2: three of us were with this guy, you know, are

2548
02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:46,680
Speaker 2: person justin to the lakes. Yes, yes, I remember us

2549
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:50,920
Speaker 2: telling him this story and we were at the studio.

2550
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:52,520
Speaker 2: I forgot what we were there for, but we were

2551
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:54,520
Speaker 2: just kicking in with him, and we're telling him like

2552
02:14:55,520 --> 02:14:59,720
Speaker 2: our whole thing and the way he just started laughing

2553
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:04,440
Speaker 2: at it and joking about it. And then you know

2554
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:06,520
Speaker 2: what he compared us to. You remember that commercial with

2555
02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:14,640
Speaker 2: the dogs and the bro this cold. I wanted to

2556
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 2: be mad, but the ship was so funny that we

2557
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:18,320
Speaker 2: all just started dying laughing, and I was just like, yo,

2558
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:24,120
Speaker 2: these niggas definitely just compared us to some lost dogs and.

2559
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:29,360
Speaker 1: Ship the roads that lead to success. Bro. Bro, it's

2560
02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 1: different and.

2561
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:32,520
Speaker 2: We all, you know, we're still out you know, well

2562
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 2: one of us lives in Vegas, but you know we're

2563
02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:37,440
Speaker 2: all doing something. Yeah, we're all doing something today.

2564
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 1: Man.

2565
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:40,720
Speaker 2: You know that wasn't allowed. Yeah, that's a home he

2566
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:42,640
Speaker 2: got cracked into the TV stuff.

2567
02:15:42,680 --> 02:15:46,000
Speaker 1: Now that's dope. Yeah, man, that's dope. Man. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: to hear y'all survive. Man, we didn't hear about y'all

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Speaker 1: on the first forty eight, right because some first forty

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Speaker 1: eight is shit going on. Man, it's tough now, but bro,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for your contribution to the game.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like career, thank you. And

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Speaker 1: it's not taken lightly at all, you know. And I

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Speaker 1: think at times in our industry and as we have

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Speaker 1: successes and sometimes when we have multiple things that are

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Speaker 1: happening for us, we forget to look and say, damn,

2577
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Speaker 1: this is cool. Yeah you know, so I hope today

2578
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:29,280
Speaker 1: made you look at it like, bro, this is this

2579
02:16:29,440 --> 02:16:31,840
Speaker 1: is cool because you know, maybe some things popped up

2580
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Speaker 1: in your head whatever, you know what I mean, Like,

2581
02:16:33,879 --> 02:16:36,840
Speaker 1: what we what we get to do is really cool, definitely,

2582
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:41,160
Speaker 1: And to reach the levels you've reached is not everybody

2583
02:16:41,240 --> 02:16:44,680
Speaker 1: get to see that, bro. Yeah, So congratulations on again

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02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:50,119
Speaker 1: and shut out to Vanta Records, The Beautiful India Sean. Listen,

2585
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Speaker 1: she got the music coming out. The records is out

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02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 1: now y'all. Make sure y'all go check out. Subject to change,

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Speaker 1: which is not subject to change at this point. This

2588
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:03,840
Speaker 1: is coming out. We talked to Mickey, We talked to him.

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Speaker 1: The mouse is gonna put it out. It's gonna happen,

2590
02:17:08,080 --> 02:17:12,320
Speaker 1: the Phantom Mouse. But Bro, congratulate, Like I said, once again,

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02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:15,040
Speaker 1: congratulations on everything. Man. I hope we can continue to

2592
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Speaker 1: do more of this. Yeah, man, anytime real and I

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02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:19,560
Speaker 1: just want to continue to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Y'all appreciate that.

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02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:25,440
Speaker 1: Man. So I'm Jay Valentine. This is Steve Mile India Sean.

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Speaker 1: It's the R and B Money Podcast. I see y'all

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Speaker 1: next week. Thank you,