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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Chaos inside a naval air

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Speaker 1: station in Pensacola. The mass shooting shocking the military base tonight,

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Speaker 1: ABC News is confirmed the gunman was Mohammed, said Al Shamrani,

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Speaker 1: a member of the Saudi Air Force in the US

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Speaker 1: for flight training. The FBI investigating terrorism as a possible motive.

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Speaker 1: A tight knit community reeling. It doesn't happen to our

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Speaker 1: friends and neighbors who are members of the United States Navy.

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Speaker 1: But it did, and it has the first call for

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Speaker 1: help coming in at six fifty one am up the

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Speaker 1: base lockdown. Police raced to the scene within five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Authority say the shooter moved through two floors of a

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Speaker 1: classroom building, an area of the base where weapons are

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Speaker 1: not allowed. Have you given me an update on possible

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Speaker 1: patient count? Over ten patients confirmed. The gunmen reportedly moved

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Speaker 1: through the building armed with a semi automatic handgut, leaving

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Speaker 1: a trail of carnage with officers chasing what it looked like.

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Speaker 1: It looked like a war zone, you know, there were

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Speaker 1: rounds everywhere. Four Sheriff's deputies coming face to face with

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Speaker 1: the gunmen engaging in a shootout. Two officers hit, one

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Speaker 1: shot in the arm, the other in the knee. Despite

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Speaker 1: being shot returning fire. The accused gunmen killed. Today we're

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Speaker 1: learning so much more about the Sauty airman who murdered

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Speaker 1: three at a naval trading center in Pensacola, Florida, having

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Speaker 1: filed a complaint earlier against a flight instructor who called

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Speaker 1: him porn stash over his bushy mustache he wore, I

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Speaker 1: mean as he grace. This is crime stories right now.

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Speaker 1: We are combing through the clues left behind a Sawdy

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Speaker 1: Prince Kola shooter infuriated after instructor gave him the moniker

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Speaker 1: porn stash. The incident goes down at the Naval air

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Speaker 1: station there in Pensacola, Florida. Joining me an all star panel.

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Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott judge trial lawyer at Ashley Wilcott dot com.

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Speaker 1: James Shelnutt twenty seven years major case swat now lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall's psycho analyst out of LA. You can

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Speaker 1: find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. The medical

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Speaker 1: Examiner for the State of Florida, Doctor Tim Gallagher, but

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Speaker 1: straight to Amanda Hall. Joining US reporter with wi n

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Speaker 1: K TV Fort Myers, Amanda, what happened, Nancy? The gunman

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Speaker 1: is dead and the investigation is continuing. Just last night,

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Speaker 1: you know, our governor was talking about this, calling it

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Speaker 1: an act of terrorism. This happened inside of a classroom

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Speaker 1: at a Navy base, really the home of aviation, and

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Speaker 1: of Florida. That's where the museum is. This happened on

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Speaker 1: base inside of you know, it's a tier security system

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Speaker 1: for people to get on and off, and so for

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Speaker 1: something like this to happen, it is really shocked the

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Speaker 1: entire state of Florida. Take a listen to an eye witness.

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Speaker 1: This is Jeff Burgosh, who was a contractor there listening. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's been pretty surreal. I've worked out here as a

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Speaker 1: and this morning was like no other. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten till seven, and then suddenly everything went gridlock. All

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Speaker 1: What a horrible scene that developed our friends at MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: But now take a listen to reporter Boyne Alexander chilling

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Speaker 1: new details about the man investigators believe carried it out,

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Speaker 1: law enforcement officials tell NBC News. In the past week,

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Speaker 1: the shooter, Mohammed said alsham Rani, a Saudi national, invited

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Speaker 1: same officials confirm the handgun used in Friday's attack was

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Speaker 1: alsham Rani. We're learning more about those in the gunman's path,

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Speaker 1: among them Ryan Blackwell, an assistant wrestling coach, and Charles Hogue,

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Speaker 1: find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. What do

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Speaker 1: the shooting, I'm referring to I'm mad Muhammad al SHAMRANI. Well,

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Speaker 1: what I make of it is that lone will terrorists

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Speaker 1: FBI questioning. After Friday's deadly attack, the Saudi national part

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Speaker 1: retracing the steps of twenty one year old Mohammed al Shamrani,

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