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Speaker 1: We're talking to so many voters that know it is

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Speaker 1: future is a series of choices. Our current state of

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Speaker 1: For those that are parents, you know exactly what I mean.

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Speaker 4: There is no mountains stands, t.

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Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 2: Man, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: I remember when we were starting these out and it

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like your average three roads.

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Speaker 1: This is the number one boots on the ground operation

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Speaker 3: With you and we have your back. God bless you,

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Speaker 1: As you know, we are heading on campus here momentarily

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Speaker 1: Extra door, go that extra mile, talk to that extra friend.

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Speaker 6: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 6: the Charlie Kirk Show. Suck a lot here we go on.

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Speaker 7: Ah that intro maybe emotional. It's Tucker Carlson. I'm honored

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Speaker 8: Why don't we just play it if it's okay, right,

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Speaker 8: that was eleven days ago Tucker, and he's on stage

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Speaker 7: And Melbourne's one of the darkest cities really in the world.

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Speaker 2: And there's something there's something about watching you know, Korean's

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Speaker 8: It's happening in our midst right now, and it's it's

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Speaker 8: Both Erica and I were cradle Catholics, right we were

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Speaker 2: Anyone who focuses on Jesus is my brother.

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Speaker 7: That's how I feel. And I agree with you one

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Speaker 7: hundred percent. And if you lectures, it's a little bit

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Speaker 7: like Twitter. Actually if you if you think about it

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Speaker 3: I'm so sad we didn't get to just have that

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Speaker 9: We wanted to have just a straight like just for fun,

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Speaker 9: like let's debate Mary.

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Speaker 7: And one of the things I hope you guys live

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Speaker 7: Just a fact but part of it is just the

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Speaker 7: And you get there and you realize like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 8: Well, welcome radio back in just one second us, welcome

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Speaker 8: back to the Charlie Kirk Show. And we are honored

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Speaker 8: by the great, the legendary, and I really want people

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Speaker 8: to understand, Tucker, you and Charlie had such a unique

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Speaker 8: and they both had each other's back. Wad my back

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I promised I wouldn't get into any of that,

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Speaker 7: I would always say, hey, you know, let's like meet

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Speaker 7: I loved talking to him, and it wasn't just to

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Speaker 7: He would always bring it back to God every single time.

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Speaker 8: many memories of Charlie being like I can I got

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Speaker 7: With always always, And he was so intellectually curious and flexible,

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Speaker 7: And I know that as I've gotten older, it's been

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Speaker 2: He was a freaking Pharisee.

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Speaker 7: So like in our religion, at its core is the

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Speaker 7: I was totally off base. And Charlie was so much

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Speaker 2: Is that the right thing? Like there's no one in

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Speaker 9: It's so easy for like religion, you know, for sometimes

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Speaker 3: Yes, And Charlie was so humble, genuinely humble.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for we would have these moments. Thank you

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Speaker 8: That would be the type out, We need to stay humble,

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Speaker 3: Really, Yes, this.

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Speaker 2: Is in his private text to people work.

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Speaker 8: I have a story like this too, and I'm ashamed

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Speaker 8: was two weeks before he died, and I'll never forget it.

441
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Speaker 8: I there was just some annoyance that was, you know,

442
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Speaker 8: in our way, and we needed to deal with something

443
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Speaker 8: I can't even remember it was. And I just remember going, hey,

444
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 8: you know, we could just tell them X Y Z

445
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 8: and translation, we could just you know.

446
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Speaker 3: A little white lie and it'll go away. They'll understand.

447
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Speaker 8: And I remember seeing the like the dots, theo's typing

448
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 8: right away right away, we don't lie. It was a

449
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 8: private message with me, and it wasn't you don't lie.

450
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 8: It's not I don't lie. It was Andrew. We we

451
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 8: here on the show in this turning and turning put

452
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Speaker 8: we don't lie.

453
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Speaker 2: Well, and not only don't lie.

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Speaker 7: I mean without even getting into it, but like, if

455
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Speaker 7: you run a huge nonprofit, and TC is all about

456
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 7: huge nonprofits, I know everyone who runs them, but there

457
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 7: are temptations and there was never any of that here ever,

458
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Speaker 7: And tro and I talked about that a lot, like

459
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 7: here are the pitfalls in a man's life. Here, here's

460
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Speaker 7: how people get ensnared. It happened to David. I mean,

461
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Speaker 7: we know this is the thing.

462
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Speaker 2: He was so.

463
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Speaker 7: And again, I just had this conversation with him right

464
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Speaker 7: before he died because I'm very focused on because they've

465
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 7: seen sort of people destroyed, destroy themselves and it's clearly

466
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 7: like Satan acting on them.

467
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Speaker 2: Fact.

468
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Speaker 7: Sorry, And he was like he was a narrow pathwalker

469
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Speaker 7: and I just have to say that because most of them.

470
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Speaker 8: He would run home to be with Erica. Yes, if

471
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Speaker 8: he couldn't. If Erica was on the road, he'd be like,

472
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Speaker 8: are we done here?

473
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Speaker 2: Okay?

474
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Speaker 3: Like a donor dinner or something.

475
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Speaker 8: He would, you know, he after our events at night,

476
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Speaker 8: he would do kind of like a little circuit all

477
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Speaker 8: the dinners and he couldn't wait. He's like okay, and

478
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Speaker 8: I'd be like, I got to talk to you about

479
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Speaker 8: one one other thing. Charlie hold on one second. One second,

480
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Speaker 8: He's like, sorry, I'll talk to about it in the morning.

481
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Speaker 3: I can see bye.

482
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: And it was just that was the key.

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Speaker 9: I love to tell people this because sometimes people who

484
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Speaker 9: didn't watch Charlie a lot would sometimes just think, oh,

485
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Speaker 9: he's like a young influencer. So people would ask me,

486
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 9: they'd be like, Blake, do you ever hang out with Charlie?

487
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Speaker 9: And what I'd always say is, I don't think Charlie

488
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Speaker 9: has ever hung out in his entire life.

489
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Speaker 3: He was always on his mission or you know, he

490
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: was with you know, he was with his family.

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Speaker 8: It was all that being said, some of the best

492
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Speaker 8: memories that I have are the plane flights across country.

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because and that's the only time he can hang out.

494
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: It was amazing.

495
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 8: And by the way, when and I think that gave

496
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Speaker 8: him the freedom to kind of just go, I'm hanging out.

497
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 8: And I mean, if you had to add him up,

498
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Speaker 8: I've got hundreds of these hours and they're some of

499
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Speaker 8: the most amazing because he was so funny and so

500
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 8: so curious and so so he did. But it was

501
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 8: like you had to get him in this this mode

502
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 8: where you literally trapped him on a plane and he

503
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 8: couldn't get out and he was stuck.

504
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Speaker 2: But what is that?

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Speaker 7: I mean, most people sort of fritter away their entire

506
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 7: lives hanging out, and I'm I'm definitely one of them.

507
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm like an Arab man in the suit.

508
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 7: I like to sit around hitting the water pipe, playing backgammon,

509
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 7: drinking little cups of coffee, talking about women like I've.

510
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Speaker 2: Spent a lot of my life doing that. That's why

511
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: I love Trump so much.

512
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 7: That too, But Charlie had like this mission all the time.

513
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Speaker 8: I have a theory on it, but we have to

514
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 8: we have to do another bread. Yeah, we'll keep going.

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Speaker 3: Uh, we'll be right back.

516
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Speaker 8: Don't go anywhere ten seconds, all right, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: We continue on here.

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Speaker 8: So my theory on that, Tucker is, I think in

519
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 8: order for this whole God plan to work in Charlie's life,

520
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 8: he had to like he had to impress in him

521
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 8: almost subconsciously, at hardwire it, whatever it was, he was

522
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 8: going to maximize the juice, the output. And Charlie disciplined

523
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 8: his body. He didn't put alcohol into his body, he

524
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 8: didn't put drugs into his body. He didn't put anything

525
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 8: into his body that he thought was going to slow

526
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 8: him down or reduce his productivity. He was obsessed with biohacking.

527
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Speaker 8: He was like and and I thought it was just

528
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 8: this weird quirk because I'm thinking, Charlie, you're gonna be alive,

529
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 8: because you're younger than me. You're gonna be alive when

530
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 8: I'm gone, Like, chill out, relax, have some fun. But

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Speaker 8: somehow he knew there wasn't a moment to waste. And

532
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 8: I'm finding these things stuck her that he found time

533
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 8: to do. Eric was telling me he somehow found time

534
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 8: to journal obsessively, and she.

535
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Speaker 3: Wrote her a weekly note on Saturday. Every every Saturday.

536
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 8: He read books, He skimmed books, he got Blake to

537
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 8: read them.

538
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: He found ways to get the team to distill information.

539
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 8: So he could absorb it. And he but he would

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00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 8: do walks with books on tape. He managed to squeeze

541
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Speaker 8: so much life into such a short period of time.

542
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Speaker 8: And it's I have to believe it was God impressing

543
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 8: and blessing him with this divine ability to maximize his output.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

545
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 7: And I had many conversations with him on this topic,

546
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 7: also about like physical health.

547
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm a pizza guy, so okay, physical health.

548
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 7: I quit smoking cigarettes in forty five, like I feel

549
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Speaker 7: very work.

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Speaker 9: It turns out you say he didn't want to put

551
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Speaker 9: anything in his body that would hinder him, And it

552
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 9: turns out the list of things that hinder you is

553
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Speaker 9: all foods except like cabbage, greaded chicken.

554
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 3: Oh hot sauce.

555
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 7: But that's basically what I mean. He was the fittest guy.

556
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Speaker 7: But it was for a reason. How much time do

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Speaker 7: we have in this segment left?

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Speaker 8: We're going to welcome back Radio in three minutes and

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Speaker 8: twenty seconds. Then we have a nice thirteen.

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Speaker 7: Minute, okay, So I want to when we get to

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Speaker 7: the thirteen, I want to tell the Blake story.

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Speaker 2: Blake nef was sitting right.

563
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Speaker 7: Here and it's it's just a story that just explains

564
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Speaker 7: who he really was. And there's so much that goes

565
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 7: on in Washington and political world that's so treacherous and

566
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 7: cruel and anti human, and Charlie just stood against all

567
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Speaker 7: of that, not simply in public, but in private, and

568
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Speaker 7: I had a window into one of the amazing stories

569
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Speaker 7: of bravery and forgives. It's just an incredible story and

570
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 7: it's about you.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 7: It makes me emotional think about but anyway, I don't

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Speaker 7: think it's ever really been told. Sorry to make you know.

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Speaker 8: I love about this Blake story too, because I and

575
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Speaker 8: I don't want to. I'm not going to ruin the

576
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 8: punchline here, but I would just say I one of

577
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Speaker 8: these strongest testaments to Charlie is the fact that this

578
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 8: guy's a tough judge.

579
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: And I know, oh I know.

580
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Speaker 8: And when he first started working with us, I could

581
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 8: tell that he was a little unsure.

582
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Speaker 3: You know, you probably had the questions you back.

583
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Speaker 8: Charlie spoke the language of the people, and you're a

584
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 8: dartmouth kid that's a total egg egghead nerd, you know,

585
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 8: like beautiful mind kind of person. And but Charlie would

586
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 8: cut through all that, and he would speak right to

587
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Speaker 8: the people and cut people's hearts in two and make

588
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 8: them choose the side they were going to go go on.

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00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: And that was not the language of Blake net.

590
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 8: But we needed a Blake, Nef, and I knew we

591
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 8: needed a Blake Nef, and I just there was this

592
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 8: moment where I forget why, but you you took this

593
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 8: moment and I remember being really touched by it, and

594
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 8: you paid Charlie a tremendous compliment, and I knew it

595
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 8: was like two years after the fact and it and

596
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 8: it was I Charlie texted me like directly, he goes,

597
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 8: whoa did you hear?

598
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: Did you hear? Blake?

599
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 8: Like, because it really meant the world to him that

600
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 8: he won he had won your respect and it really

601
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 8: meant the world to him.

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Speaker 7: And South Dakota Germans aren't big on compliments, but I

603
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 7: do think that so you, if you get one from Blake,

604
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 7: gets earned. I do think the question that people had

605
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 7: about Charlie the question I got most often.

606
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Speaker 2: And people came to me a lot about Charlie like

607
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: what is this because they knew that I knew him

608
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: and that I was friends with him.

609
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 7: But really the core question everyone wanted answered was is

610
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Speaker 7: this guy for real?

611
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: Is this real?

612
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 7: Because like nothing in our world's real, it's all fake actually,

613
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 7: and I hate to say it, but it's true. A

614
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 7: lot of preachers are very fake and and I would

615
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 7: always say, amazingly, it's one hundred percent real, It's totally real.

616
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Speaker 2: And I remember talking to you.

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Speaker 3: You about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everyone like, what is this exactly?

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Speaker 7: And you concluded early I remember when you told me, no, no,

620
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 7: it's totally real.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible.

622
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 7: You really have to have lived in our world for

623
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 7: a while to know how wild that is, because most

624
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 7: people are say, yeah, of course it's real. Not in

625
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Speaker 7: political world. Is that fair?

626
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Speaker 2: Very fair? Very fair?

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Speaker 9: And he's like the realist guy to ever live practice.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know. It makes me sad he's gone.

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Speaker 7: I wish I had said this in public before he left,

630
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 7: because I said it many times in private. I will

631
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Speaker 7: say that to many people, who is this guy?

632
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: Is this really?

633
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Like?

634
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: What is this?

635
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 7: And I would always say, man, if you had dinner

636
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 7: with him, you would know it's real.

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Speaker 8: Well, welcome radio back in just a second. This is

638
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 8: we'll tell the Blake next.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 6: This movement will not be silenced. You're listening to the

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk Show.

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00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 8: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This

643
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 8: is really the Tucker Day. And I feel awkward even

644
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 8: taking in in and out of breaks. But Tucker, I

645
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 8: don't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 8: I'm doing this out of service to my nation and

648
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 8: to my friend Tucker.

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00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, the floor is yours. I know where you're going.

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00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: But oh, this is Blake next. Story. Okay, So this

651
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: is a story that.

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Speaker 7: Obviously I was in the middle of it, and I've

653
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 7: talked to a lot of people just this week about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever been told in public.

655
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Speaker 7: I'm going to give the outline and then just turn

656
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 7: it over to Blake to correct me and to fill

657
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Speaker 7: in the details.

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Speaker 2: But here's the story.

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Speaker 7: So Blake worked for me at Fox News for years,

660
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 7: probably more closely than anybody like intimately at Fox. And

661
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 7: I love Blake and Blake is obviously an unusual person,

662
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 7: but just a wonderful person and a really deeply decent person.

663
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 7: And obviously Blake's weird, but like Blake is the best.

664
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 7: And people who love Blake really love Blake. And there's

665
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 7: a little group of people who, you know, we all

666
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 7: know each other. I'll talk about Blake.

667
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: So Blake got caught up.

668
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 7: Right at the height of all this insanity, true insanity

669
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 7: called Cancel culture. But it was more than that. It

670
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 7: was like French Revolution stuff. And someone like you know,

671
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 7: Blake is not Blake is a racist. Well, actually, as

672
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 7: I won't always say, Bake is actually not a racist,

673
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 7: and I would admit it, he's not. He's a Christian

674
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 7: who believes that God created everybody, so he's actually not

675
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 7: a racist. But Fox overreacted, of course, and he left,

676
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 7: and then Fox denounced him. They tried to get me

677
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 7: to denounce him. Suzanne Scott tried to make me denounce Blake,

678
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 7: and I refused, something I'm proud of. But whatever it was,

679
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 7: it was just awful. It was the saddest moment in

680
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 7: the fifteen years that I spent there. And then Blake's unemployed,

681
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 7: an unemployabull and I get this, and I feel terrible,

682
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 7: and I feel like I've got a moral obligation to

683
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 7: help Blake.

684
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: And but who's gonna hire Blake?

685
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 7: Because he's like in the New York Times, it's like

686
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 7: a bad person when actually he's a great person. Charlie

687
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 7: Kirk calls me, He's like, I'm thinking about hiring Blake.

688
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 7: I was like, God, bless you, Charlie.

689
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: What's he like?

690
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 7: I said, Well, Blake's very eccentric, Like, no kidding, he's

691
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 7: the only person who ever lost a way eating junk food.

692
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 7: Like he's a really unusual person. Like we can talk

693
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 7: about Blake all day long, but he's a wonderful person

694
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 7: and he's incredibly talented, no one disputes that, and I

695
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 7: think you should do it. He does. Charlie and I

696
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 7: talked about it. Then Blake and I talk about having

697
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 7: these conversations behind the scenes about each other. And not

698
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 7: only does Charlie hire Blake, he puts us it makes me emotion.

699
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 7: He puts Blake on the air as if to say,

700
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 7: I know this man, he is a good man. You

701
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 7: will judge me for doing this. I'm doing it anyway

702
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 7: because it's the right thing to do. And then of

703
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 7: course it becomes this whole thing where Blake is like

704
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 7: a true asset to him. But when he first did

705
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 7: it, it was like, no, I'm doing this because it's the

706
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 7: right thing to do. This is the last thing I'll

707
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 7: say before training over to Blake. I've been in this

708
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 7: business in my whole life.

709
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: Nobody does that. Nobody does that.

710
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 7: Everyone's like, Oh, I'm for free speech or whatever until

711
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: it hurts me, at which point like sorry, pal, good luck.

712
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 7: But Charlie pivoted against that in a way that exposed

713
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 7: him and his group turning point to ridicule and risk.

714
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 7: And he did it anyway, And all week I've been

715
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 7: talking to people about this like that was the ass

716
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 7: those of us in this business know how brave that was.

717
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: Who's the bravest thing? Anyway?

718
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 9: Sorry, Blake, I remember talking to you about that because

719
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 9: I actually was weighing another employment option and I was going, you.

720
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 8: Know, as you said, I was like, I think you

721
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 8: maybe were behind that one too.

722
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.

723
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 9: I was desperate, and I remember just you know, I

724
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 9: won't say what it was for, but we were talking

725
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 9: about it, and I think the one that you really

726
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 9: pointed out that was really important. He's like, Blake, I

727
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 9: think the most important thing, Like, Charlie is a for real,

728
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 9: a sincere Christian, and I think you're going to want

729
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 9: to work for someone who is a for real, sincere,

730
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 9: deeply believing Christian, and you know, because then you'll disagree

731
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 9: on a lot of things, but you will align on

732
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 9: really important things. Yes, And I think that was what

733
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 9: carried the day with me, and I'm very glad it did.

734
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 9: And you know, at the time, as he said, it

735
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 9: was like at the time I came in, it was

736
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 9: he was just a very different person, Yes, And it

737
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 9: was over time realizing all the ways that, as you say,

738
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 9: you have to really see it.

739
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: You're like, is this for real?

740
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: So what is this going to work?

741
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 9: You would also have that where you're like, this can't

742
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 9: this can't possibly work, right, And it does and it

743
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 9: does because he's so completely intently, sincere and fully all

744
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 9: in on it.

745
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: And I think that's what like amazed young people, like

746
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: you know.

747
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 9: When you'd go to these campus events and you know,

748
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of you know, you'll see

749
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 9: these people online who are like very like performatively trad

750
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 9: or Christian or whatever because it like owns the.

751
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: Libs or whatever.

752
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 9: But Charlie is just like, no, no, I like one

753
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 9: hundred percent believe in this, and because I believe it

754
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 9: is true and because it is important, and I want

755
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 9: everyone else to believe in it because it is true,

756
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 9: and I think it is the most important decision they

757
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 9: will ever make. And it would always shine through in

758
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 9: what he was doing and how he behaved that he

759
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 9: really believed that.

760
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 8: And well, and I mean I think and you know

761
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 8: this because you were at some of the campus stops.

762
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 8: I was at some of the campus stops. Ninety percent

763
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 8: of the interactions. As he got older, right, the brand

764
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 8: of Charlie was almost cemented, you know, in twenty eighteen,

765
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 8: where he was much younger, and he was like a

766
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 8: peer to the kids on college and he would say,

767
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk destroys the libs or whatever, and that was

768
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 8: just titling. It wasn't actually in Charlie's heart. But the Charlie,

769
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 8: by the way, didn't determine the titles, you know, like

770
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 8: people behind the scenes, you know, behind the scenes, that's

771
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 8: you know, that's a social media team that's doing the titling.

772
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: That wasn't Charlie picking the title, you know.

773
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 8: Anyways, But the point is as he got older, he

774
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 8: transitioned to a much more big brother, and people started

775
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 8: observing like this incredible herculean patience that he would exhibit

776
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 8: on these in these interactions with sometimes bad faith people,

777
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 8: but sometimes people that just had bad ideas. And ninety percent,

778
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 8: if you went and sat there and watch the entire

779
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 8: three hour prove me wrong, ninety percent of it is

780
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 8: him being kind and gentle and thought provoking and working

781
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 8: through whatever was the lie that was stuck in this

782
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 8: kid's head or sometimes professors, but he would work with

783
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 8: them through it and use the Socratic method to draw

784
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 8: out the truth.

785
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: And it was a beautiful thing.

786
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 8: And you know, he doesn't get nearly enough credit for

787
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 8: that because the.

788
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: Charlie destroys the Libs clip goes megaviral. Right.

789
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you more.

790
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 7: I have to say when you when all that happened

791
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 7: to you, I just cannot say how pain I well,

792
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 7: you know because you've talked about many times, but that

793
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 7: was like one of those painful things that's ever happened

794
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 7: to me in my life, because you know, we have strict,

795
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 7: tight staff and the same staff, like I don't don't

796
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 7: have new people working for me really ever, and I

797
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 7: don't care to.

798
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: So that was really really painful.

799
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, And I.

800
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: Just wanted you to have health insurance.

801
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 7: My expectations for you were so low because you had

802
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 7: been so mistreated and maligned and slandered and it's just

803
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 7: so hard to come back from that.

804
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: The fact that he puts you on the air is

805
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: probably a mistake. It was not a mistake, but it was.

806
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: That is so wild.

807
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 8: So I have an insight into that piece of this

808
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 8: story because I was aware of this other job opportunity

809
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 8: and I see it now, all is like God's plan.

810
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 8: And I was working on kind of a panel show idea,

811
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 8: but I didn't have that he was just like a

812
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 8: nugget of an idea was back of my head and

813
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 8: and I remember kind of just intuiting that in order

814
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 8: to like restore this man that had been so wronged

815
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 8: by Oliver Darcy or whatever in CNN, these scumbags, I thought,

816
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 8: you know.

817
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 7: And forgive Oliver Darcy. Thank you for reminding me, we

818
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 7: forgive those of trespass against us. He needs to be

819
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 7: daily rotation.

820
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 8: So but you know, and by the way I saw,

821
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 8: I ended up in that moment and that when we

822
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 8: were talking with Blake at the beginning, I looked back

823
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 8: at your monologue for that night. Maybe it wasn't your monologueybe,

824
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 8: it was the finish at the final segment, but you

825
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 8: said you really were defiant and it was beautifully done

826
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 8: because you.

827
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: Were back at you.

828
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 8: They you were part of something and only had so

829
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 8: much control at that moment, right, and so.

830
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: They were bullying me.

831
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 7: Suzanne Scott got I was in the parking lot of

832
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 7: a place I was in Bozeman, Montana, fishing, and she

833
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 7: called me, and I went outside to do my pre

834
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 7: show bathroom break, always outside if I can do it,

835
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 7: And she called me and she said, you need to

836
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 7: say what he said was wrong, and I said, I'm

837
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 7: not doing that, period, and you can fire me in

838
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 7: the show's live and tenants. I'm not doing that, and

839
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 7: she goes, I guess I can't make you, and she

840
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 7: until the day she fired me, she never really talked

841
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 7: to me after that.

842
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 8: And I'm not trying to get into any of that,

843
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 8: but I do.

844
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 7: Believe that, Oh, I want to get into it. It

845
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 7: was horrible what they did to him.

846
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 8: I'm just saying I will I don't know where to

847
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 8: go with I will say, Tucker, this is awkward for me. Sorry, sorry, sorry, No,

848
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 8: I will just say that I think this moment has

849
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 8: profoundly changed all of us, including people like Suzanne, and

850
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 8: I just want to say, briefly, for what it's worth,

851
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 8: she's been exceedingly.

852
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 2: And we all change.

853
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 7: And I've been crappy things, a lot of crappy things

854
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 7: in my life, so I shouldn't be.

855
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

856
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 8: But but to your point, your hands were tied in

857
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 8: that moment, and you you defiantly said I remember you said,

858
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 8: I just want everybody to know that you are gloating

859
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 8: over a young man's life being ruined, and shame on you.

860
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 8: You basically you. I'll never forget that. And I remember thinking, okay,

861
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 8: like if Tucker's got his back in this.

862
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: Moment, this guy's pretty great.

863
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: Ye, the best.

864
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's been the best. And I love having Blake.

865
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 7: They came out of nowhere. Man, I'll never forget that.

866
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 7: I'll never forget that as long as I live. But anyway,

867
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 7: the point is whatever, and I shouldn't even we put

868
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 7: him on air exactly.

869
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 8: And by the way, and now look at this, this

870
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 8: show is going on. Erica Kirk has demanded that the

871
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 8: show goes on, and we're going to figure out the details,

872
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 8: and Blake is going to be critical to that. And

873
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 8: if we hadn't have created this, this roster, this thought

874
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 8: crime crew that we do on Thursdays, I don't know

875
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 8: what we would do.

876
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 7: But it takes the bravery of an individual to get there.

877
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 7: So like, everything is fine now and Blake can do

878
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 7: whatever he wants and people know who he is because

879
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 7: they get to see him and they can make their own.

880
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: Judgments about him.

881
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 7: But when Charlie made that decision, and he's the one

882
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 7: who would have been blamed if it had gone wrong,

883
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 7: people didn't know who Blake was apart from what they

884
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 7: read in The New York Times, slander devised by CNN

885
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 7: and Oliver Darcy. That's a fact, and not helped by

886
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 7: a lot of other people who I shouldn't.

887
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: Be attacking it right, Sorry about that.

888
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 7: But he's the one who allowed Blake's life to continue.

889
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 7: And I just I felt it so strong because I've

890
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 7: been that's my world, Like, I.

891
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: Know what that is.

892
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 7: Almost people are like, well, you know, you can't put

893
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 7: him on air, like he did bad things.

894
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: I heard that, and Charlie was like, he was willing.

895
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 7: To stand up and say no, that's not true, Like

896
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 7: most people are not gonna do that.

897
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: No one will do that.

898
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 8: And I remember the nasty articles, there was a few,

899
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 8: and Charlie would just write back lol.

900
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 7: So that's courage. In case you're wandering of a courage,

901
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,479
Speaker 7: that's actual courage. And you know that it is because

902
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 7: it's so rare. Nobody does that. If people do that,

903
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 7: who are they? I live in this world, like I

904
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 7: know every single person hosting every single show, and they

905
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 7: don't do that. And he did that, And so that's

906
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 7: what actual courage is. Courage is standing up for what

907
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 7: is true in the service but other people and the

908
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 7: service is showing love to other human beings. That's the

909
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 7: commission that we get from Jesus period. And he actually

910
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 7: did that at great risk to himself. And anyway, just

911
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 7: I've had like fifty texts exchange about this all.

912
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: When can give up anyway? Bless you Blake for being thank.

913
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: You, thanks for standing with us. Thank you, Thank you

914
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 3: very much genuinely.

915
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 8: Can I say something that you told me that the

916
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 8: night of that blew my mind in it?

917
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Go for it, go for it.

918
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: So we're bringing Blake to the brink.

919
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 8: Here we were, we were in Provo the night of,

920
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 8: and it was like we were all shell shocked, and

921
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 8: Blake was there with them when it happened. And we

922
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 8: filter in late at night into this little like corner

923
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 8: of the restaurant the hotel in Salt Lake City, and

924
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 8: I don't know how it came up, but Blake says

925
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 8: the most. I will never forget it. He said, Charlie

926
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 8: gave me my life back.

927
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

928
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 8: And I I knew exactly what he meant. And now

929
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 8: I think the audience does too.

930
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: Amen.

931
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: And with that, we're gonna give Blake a bail out.

932
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 8: Get out, Jelfrey car We're gonna take a radio break,

933
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 8: cut to black.

934
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, We'll be right back.

935
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 5: Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice newsbreak. Thanks

936
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 5: so much for being here with us. The GOP led

937
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 5: House just passed a resolution that makes October fourteenth the

938
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk. Thirty eight Democrats

939
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 5: voted present in order to allow this move to push forward.

940
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 5: The day would be an opportunity for Americans to reflect

941
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: on Charlie Kirk's contributions to public debate and civic engagement.

942
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 5: Senator Rick Scott of Florida authored the initial resolution, calling

943
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 5: Kirk a quote magnetic leader, a loving father and a husband,

944
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 5: and a friend and inspiration to so many. He went

945
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 5: on to say, Charlie loved our nation and its founding principles,

946
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: and believe deeply in his faith, in his family, and

947
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 5: in the beauty of ideas and discussion. In the meantime,

948
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 5: preparations continue for Charlie's public memorial service on Sunday. President

949
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 5: Trump leads a list of high profile speakers at the event,

950
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: including Vice President J. D. Vance, as well as Cabinet

951
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 5: members Mark or Rubio, Robert F. Kennedy Junior, and Tulca Gabbard.

952
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 5: All of this comes as Erica Kirk was just named

953
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 5: the new CEO and Chair of the Board for Turning

954
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 5: Point USA, the organization her late husband Charlie founded. In

955
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: a news release announcing the move, the organization writes, and

956
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 5: I quote, all of us at Turning Point USA have

957
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 5: a special role in carrying Charlie Kirk's mantle and completing

958
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: his vision of bringing us all closer to the Lord

959
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 5: and fostering a prosperous country for generations to come. Sunday's

960
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 5: memorial service will be held at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona.

961
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 5: Make sure to tune into ROW America's voice starting at

962
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 5: ten A in Eastern Time, will of course have live

963
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: coverage throughout the day. A twenty four year old Acqus

964
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 5: Stalker is dead after killing three police officers and injuring

965
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 5: two more. The murdered officers were honored with this procession

966
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 5: Wednesday night, following their killings during a domestick related investigation.

967
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 5: Detectives say the killer ambushed the officers as they entered

968
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: a home at the center of the domestic dispute case

969
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 5: they were working. That's a great check if your headlines

970
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 5: I'm Terrence Bates.

971
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

972
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 8: Our dear friend's seat remains open with the golden the

973
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 8: IB microphone in front of it, his hero Rush.

974
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing.

975
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 8: And so Tucker, this is the Tucker Show for Charlie.

976
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 8: And so I think it's important that I get to

977
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 8: ask you a question.

978
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: Okay, when did you meet Charlie?

979
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 8: And tell us about how your relationship with Charlie grew,

980
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 8: because I think it's fair.

981
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 7: So I met Charlie when he was a teenager. He

982
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 7: was connected to funded by a close friend of ours

983
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 7: called Foster Free, who's a wonderful man from Wilmington Dellare

984
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 7: really from Wisconsin, but lived in Wilmington and then Jackson,

985
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 7: Wyoming and was an investor in a company that we had,

986
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 7: and more important, like an actual friend, really the only

987
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 7: investor I've ever had in anything, and in a very

988
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 7: enthusiastic Christian man, and the kind of person was just

989
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 7: a collector of people. You know, I met this person

990
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 7: who was so enthusiastic and almost everybody around him was

991
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 7: just wonderful. But because he was so rich and so generous,

992
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 7: he did collect There were phonies in the orbit, because

993
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 7: there always are when someone's rich, right, And so he

994
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 7: tells me at dinner about this kid he's met. He's

995
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 7: only eighteen, he's not going to college. I've always been

996
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 7: opposed to college my whole life. I tried to convince

997
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 7: all my kids not to go. I mean, I really

998
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 7: meant it. And so he's like, you love this guy

999
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 7: he's not going to college. And I was like, man,

1000
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 7: I love that because I really am opposed and I

1001
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 7: mean it. And I'm like, he sounds great, and he's like, no,

1002
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 7: d d d d da dah, and I'm thinking, oh, man,

1003
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 7: some fast talking kid.

1004
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 3: Has get fis.

1005
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 7: It was like throwing back Reagan quotes or something at

1006
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 7: poor Foster. You know, it was in his seventies and

1007
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 7: like late sixties, and he doesn't know. And I really thought,

1008
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 7: assumed that Charlie was just some predator. And I didn't

1009
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 7: like it at all. And of course there's the bias

1010
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 7: against young people. I mean, Charlie's literally the age of

1011
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 7: one of my.

1012
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: Children, so like.

1013
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 7: Ah, and I felt this probably totally conventional, telling old

1014
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 7: people what they want to hear, sucking up to the donors.

1015
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: Whatever.

1016
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 7: So I meet him. I thought he was smart as hell,

1017
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 7: but I was very skeptical. Then I have this he

1018
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 7: calls me, which you do an event? Sure, I was

1019
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 7: going to be in the state anyway, So I do it,

1020
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 7: and we have this kind of sort of.

1021
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: Debate, not really a debate.

1022
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 7: Well, what actually happened was I was going to give

1023
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 7: a speech and I got there, We're backstage.

1024
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: He's like, well, actually, let's just do a Q and A.

1025
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 7: And I was like, I don't know, son, I don't

1026
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 7: think you want to do that with me because I'm

1027
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 7: kind of a jerk, you know, which I am in

1028
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 7: those settings, right.

1029
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: So he's like, no, no, I it's okay to have a debate.

1030
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 7: I was like, I don't know, man, Like, I disagree

1031
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 7: with your views on economics and foreign policy, and I'm

1032
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 7: pretty hot on these topics.

1033
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 2: So I'm just letting you know that. Oh, no problem

1034
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: at all.

1035
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: So we end up.

1036
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 7: Having this kind of intense thing and I'm like passionately

1037
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 7: opposed to marijuana and drugs. I'm just having used a

1038
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 7: lot of drugs as a child, Like, I'm very opposed

1039
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 7: to drugs. Charlie never used any drugs and his whole

1040
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 7: life and he was at the time, he was kind

1041
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 7: of libertarian on the subject, and I remember saying, everyone.

1042
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: In the crowd is for weed, Like you think you're

1043
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: so cool, but.

1044
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 7: Actually it's a control device designed to make you passive

1045
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 7: and accepting of the system that's destroying you. And people

1046
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 7: kind of booed me or whatever, but Charlie looked at

1047
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 7: me like, I think that maybe right, and that it

1048
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 7: was that issue. It was weed of all issues. You know,

1049
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 7: it's not my top issue, but I do feel it

1050
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 7: really strongly. I hate marijuana, okay, and I know it's

1051
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 7: really cool, but no, it's like fully corporate actually, and

1052
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 7: it's wrecking Americans, especially boys.

1053
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: Wrecking the parking lot of the grocery store nearby.

1054
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 7: It makes me feel like getting my gun, Like I

1055
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 7: really feel that way about it, Sorr. I shouldn't say that,

1056
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 7: but I really am mad about it. And Charlie grooved

1057
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 7: with that, and that moment set off this like conversation.

1058
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 7: So I was back, I was in Arizona for something.

1059
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 7: He's like, let's go to lunch, let's go to dinner,

1060
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 7: and we started having all these really intense conversations to

1061
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 7: start putting them on Fox, and his views were changing.

1062
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 7: And mine were too. By the way, It's not like

1063
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 7: I converted him. It's like I had been all kinds

1064
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 7: of embarrassing things during the scope of a long life

1065
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 7: a libertarian, a self described neo con Can you imagine?

1066
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll admit it.

1067
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 7: I like got mad at Alex Jones for asking questions

1068
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 7: about nine to eleven what like, I was like a

1069
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 7: horrible person or very close minded person. I was totally

1070
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 7: wrong about everything, and so I didn't judge, Like you

1071
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 7: should change your mind as the evidence changes. The things

1072
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 7: you thought were gonna work didn't.

1073
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: An honest man asked himself why they didn't work and

1074
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: what might work, Like that's the process of adulthood, and Charlie,

1075
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: young people are very inflexible about what they believe. I

1076
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: have found I have a lot of young people. I

1077
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: have a lot of children.

1078
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 7: He was one of the only young people I've ever

1079
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 7: met who was like, oh, yeah, I think I was wrong.

1080
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 7: An only belief in Jesus allows you to say that,

1081
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 7: because you know that you're not judged. You know that

1082
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 7: honesty is the ticket, and that if you pursue an

1083
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: honest path, you'll be okay, and you don't need the

1084
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 7: adulation from the crowd. You don't need the love of

1085
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 7: strangers to feel good about yourself. Because you know that

1086
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 7: you are loved. It gives you true freedom. And he

1087
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 7: had that. Charlie had no problem at all getting up

1088
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 7: and being like I was a neokan, and of course

1089
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 7: with me, he didn't because he knew that I was too.

1090
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 7: I'm like cheering on the Iraq War, which I did, Like,

1091
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 7: I literally did that, and I'm ashamed of it, but

1092
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 7: I'm also proud to admit it because I think that

1093
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 7: it's important to let people know that you can admit

1094
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 7: being wrong. It's okay, it's all right. We're people, We're

1095
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 7: not God's. You can be wrong.

1096
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Speaker 8: We're going to end this radio segment. We're going to

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Speaker 8: be right back on the streams, So don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 8: I want you to know, Tucker, that that must have

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00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 8: gone deep, because Blake can attest of all the fringe

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Speaker 8: issues that he knew he was on the unpopular side.

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Speaker 8: He was very, very vehemently against Wheat.

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Speaker 3: No. Oh, he went hard on it. Yes, I just

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00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 3: I think you really got at it where you know.

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00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 9: One, he was totally unafraid of being in a huge

1105
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 9: minority on an issue and being frank about it. You know,

1106
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 9: people would ask and he'd be like they'd ask him

1107
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 9: about like abortion, and he'd be like, look, you know

1108
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 9: my position on that is a tiny minority in the

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00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 9: United States, and I'm going to keep trying anyway. And

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00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 9: he'd say that on you know, gay marriage, where the

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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 9: Poles would say, you know, a big majority support it

1112
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 9: and all of that, and at the same time, yeah,

1113
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 9: the zero like shame about if he had to change

1114
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 9: his views. You see that song with politicians, well, actually

1115
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 9: that was a different situation. You know, I voted that

1116
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 9: way because you know it wasn't like that.

1117
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: And he'll just be like, oh, no, I was wrong.

1118
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: You know, I hadn't thought about this.

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00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 7: But you can't be controlled if you will. Is how

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00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 7: the media control politicians. They find some clip if the

1121
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 7: politicians saying something different ten years so it's like, well

1122
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 7: it was a different country ten years old.

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Speaker 3: He would do that.

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00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 8: We would see these clips, you know these really like

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00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 8: they'd be like, look, here's Charlie defending you know, this issue,

1126
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 8: and I would be like, Charlie, they've dug up that

1127
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 8: old clip and he goes, oh, yeah, that was back

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 8: when I was a cock, but.

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00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: There's no shame in that. And Charlie's example of admitting

1130
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: the truth about himself in public is the most edifying

1131
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: and important thing you can ever do because it shows

1132
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: people you can take the leash off and you can

1133
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 2: live in freedom because you know you're loved.

1134
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 7: You can tell the truth. We're all going to die anyway.

1135
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 7: That this is the deepest truth. And your job is

1136
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 7: to be honest and to be loving to other people. Okay,

1137
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 7: that's your job. Only believe in God allows that. And

1138
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 7: once you do it, it's like, it's not only fine,

1139
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 7: it's great, it's actual liberation.

1140
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 3: You said that.

1141
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 8: I remember at the first Amfest when you came back,

1142
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 8: so you had the debate and then you.

1143
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 3: Came back the unplanned debate.

1144
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 8: I remember feeling so honored that you came back. It

1145
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 8: was our first Amfest and we really needed like somebody

1146
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 8: of your caliber and your your I'm going to say you,

1147
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 8: your fame, your your the weight that you held in

1148
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 8: the movement especially.

1149
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it was an honor to us to.

1150
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 8: Have you there, and you came out so excited, came

1151
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 8: out the first night and you just said, let me

1152
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 8: say a few words about Charlie, he's willing to change

1153
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 8: his mind, he's willing to adapt. And I knew that

1154
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 8: was your subtle nod to people.

1155
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: Who might have judged you.

1156
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 8: Maybe you weren't even think of that, but it felt

1157
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 8: like it was at least saying, like, listen, I know

1158
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 8: some of you think Charlie's a certain way. Let me

1159
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 8: tell you from that twenty seventeen or whatever eighteen debate

1160
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 8: to now, I I think it was twenty twenty one,

1161
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 8: like a couple years had gone by since we'd had

1162
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 8: you back, and then we've you know, you've been back

1163
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 8: ever since.

1164
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 7: But it was it's so important. I just can't say

1165
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 7: it enough. To be honest about yourself. It's very easy

1166
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 7: to be honest about everybody else. Oh you're fat, I

1167
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 7: don't like your dress, Like that's super easy. It's very

1168
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 7: hard to be honest about yourself, like I'm fat, I'm

1169
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 7: wearing an ugly dress.

1170
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: Like no one wants to admit that.

1171
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 7: But once you do, you the fetters are off and

1172
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 7: you are so free and.

1173
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: Charlie just live that.

1174
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 7: I feel like that's almost one of the most important things,

1175
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 7: is to admit the truth about yourself, and then no

1176
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 7: one can control you. What can you say about me

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00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 7: that I won't readily concede about myself?

1178
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: Like nothing? And then what are you gonna do to me?

1179
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 3: You know?

1180
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 2: Nothing?

1181
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 7: Oh, it's amazing.

1182
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 9: I read that poem a week ago about Charlie, and

1183
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 9: I always think about that other one. You know, it's

1184
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 9: a much more famous one if by Rudyard Kipling.

1185
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and it really does just perfectly describe Charlie.

1186
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 9: You know, if you can, you know, speak with kings

1187
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 9: but not lose the common touch except you and the

1188
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 9: really one, the one that ends the poem, which you

1189
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 9: don't hear quote as much, if you can fill the

1190
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 9: unforgiving minute with sixty seconds distance runner or something like that.

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00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: I might be getting that wrong, like, but.

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00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 9: He he really did encapsulate all, like everything of that

1193
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 9: poem about what it is to be a true man,

1194
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 9: to be a true adult, to.

1195
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: Be a heroic figure. I don't know. Yeah, you want

1196
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 3: me to read it, Yeah, go for it? Yeah, okay.

1197
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 8: If you can keep your head when all about you

1198
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 8: are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you

1199
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 8: can trust yourselves when all men doubt you exactly yourself,

1200
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 8: but make allowances for their doubting too. If you can

1201
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 8: wait and not be tired by waiting or being lied about,

1202
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 8: don't deal in lies or being hated, don't give way

1203
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 8: to hating, and yet don't look too good nor talk

1204
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 8: too wise. If you can dream and not make dreams

1205
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 8: your master. If you can think and not make thoughts

1206
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 8: your aim. If you can meet with triumph and disaster

1207
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 8: and treat those two impostors just the same exactly. If

1208
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 8: you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted

1209
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 8: by knaves, to make a trap for fools, or watch

1210
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 8: the things you gave your life to broken, and to

1211
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 8: stoop and build them up with worn out tools. If

1212
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 8: you can make one heap of all your winnings and

1213
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 8: risk it on one turn of pitch and toss and lose,

1214
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 8: and start again at your beginnings, and never breathe a

1215
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 8: word about your loss. If you can force your heart

1216
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 8: and nerve and sin you to serve your turn long

1217
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 8: after you are gone, and so hold on when there

1218
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 8: is nothing in you except the will which says to them,

1219
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 8: hold on. If you can talk with craft and keep

1220
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 8: your virtue, or walk with kings, nor lose the common touch.

1221
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 8: If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you. If

1222
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 8: all men count with you, but none too much. If

1223
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 8: you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds worth

1224
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 8: of distance, run yours is the earth and everything that's

1225
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 8: in it, and which is more, you'll be a man,

1226
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 8: my son.

1227
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

1228
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 7: And the line that jumps out to me, which is

1229
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 7: the truest, and everyone I think understands it at some point.

1230
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 7: If you can treat triumph and disasters, those two impostors

1231
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 7: the same. They are imposters actually, because you know, I'm

1232
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 7: not trying to reach the meaning from the human experience.

1233
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 7: It is meaningful, but it's not it's it's not the

1234
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 7: real point actually, and there is a sense in which

1235
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 7: this is.

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00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 9: It just stands out to me. How many of those things.

1237
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I bet any lied about That's that's the

1238
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 8: one thing that I kept thinking about. If you can

1239
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 8: wait and not tired or being lied about, don't deal

1240
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 8: in lies or being hated, don't give way to hating.

1241
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: And you know, but winning is the real trap.

1242
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 7: Winning is the trap that that's where men destroyed themselves.

1243
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: That's what that was. He and I talked about that

1244
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: recently all the time. Well, yeah, but winning is when

1245
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 2: you decide that you're God. That's the David moment.

1246
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 7: For most men, surviving triumph is the real trick, and

1247
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 7: so few can do it, and he could.

1248
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 8: I think it's a beautiful thank you for bringing that. Actually,

1249
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 8: Blake has brought two poems to us this week, that

1250
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 8: and the have I mean that one about from war.

1251
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 3: What was the name of that poem? For the fallen?

1252
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: For the fallen?

1253
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 7: Blake can read poetry in a very heterosexual way, which

1254
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 7: is are.

1255
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: You saying that I just did it?

1256
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: No?

1257
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.

1258
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: No no no.

1259
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: That was that was so straight it was unbelievable. I'm

1260
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: just saying, you don't meet a lot of guys are like.

1261
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 3: I want to share some poetry with you.

1262
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 8: Never I've never been accused of an unblemish record of

1263
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 8: head sexuality. And you know it's funny, I'm stealing that

1264
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 8: line from Charlie Kirk. You would always say I have

1265
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 8: an unblemish record of bettersexuality. Why don't we take a

1266
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 8: quick little break. We're gonna reset and we'll be back

1267
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 8: for radio on about a minute a half. All right,

1268
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 8: welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I'm Andrew Colvitt.

1269
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 8: The executive producer of this show. I'm joined by Blake Neff,

1270
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 8: another producer on the show, and of course the wonderful,

1271
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 8: the great, the legendary, and Tucker. You don't get enough

1272
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 8: credit for something. I should have finished it, the Tucker, Carlson,

1273
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 8: but you don't get enough credit for something I just

1274
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 8: want people to understand.

1275
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: And the Tucker.

1276
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I've seen you backstage I don't know more

1277
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 8: times than I can count now, and you are the

1278
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 8: exact same with the guy who's taken out the trash,

1279
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 8: as our PA's and our assistants and the people in between,

1280
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 8: as you are with Charlie.

1281
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: Or me or Blake.

1282
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 8: You are the exact same human And I really want

1283
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 8: everybody to know that about you, because you wouldn't say

1284
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 8: about yourself. You treat everybody you. I can't tell you

1285
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 8: how many times that has occurred to me, because you'll

1286
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 8: be I'll be needing to drag you somewhere where we

1287
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 8: need you to go, But you're deep into a conversation

1288
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 8: in the corner with you know, the assistant that like,

1289
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 8: I don't even know that I necessarily do the name

1290
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 8: of this because we have so many plays, right, and

1291
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 8: you would just be like engrossed in this deep conversation

1292
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 8: and I would feel bad. You know, Oh, I gotta

1293
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 8: grab Tucker. He's got to go on stage in like

1294
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 8: five minutes or so. And I love that about you, man,

1295
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 8: and I just want the world to.

1296
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: Know, well, thank you.

1297
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 8: No.

1298
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 7: I mean, I love people, and you know, God created everyone.

1299
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 7: But it's also true that I grew up in rich

1300
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 7: people world back when it was in a galitarian world.

1301
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 7: It's one of the main changes in my country in

1302
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 7: my lifetime is that rich people are not a galitarian anymore.

1303
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 7: But I grew up, you know, an affluent family around

1304
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 7: rich people, and you know, the housekeeper comes to Thanksgiving

1305
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 7: dinner period period, and that's a wasp thing. I'm just

1306
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 7: going to say it out loud. That's a wasp thing.

1307
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 7: And that's gone. But we felt that very very strongly,

1308
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 7: and I just think that's right.

1309
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 8: And it's not gone because we still believe it, and

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Speaker 8: you still believe that.

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Speaker 7: I really believe it. I really believe. I'll just say

1312
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Speaker 7: one thing. Everyone hates the wasps and I beat up

1313
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 7: on them constantly. But in the club that I spent

1314
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 7: my life at, I don't even know if they are

1315
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 7: clubs anymore. But the only thing you could do to

1316
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 7: get booted from the club was to be rude to

1317
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Speaker 7: the staff.

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Speaker 2: Period. You could be drunk, they're always drunk, of course, you.

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Speaker 3: Could be you know whatever, You could say anything.

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Speaker 2: But if you were rude to a waiter, you were gone.

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Speaker 7: I mean they wouldn't even have be hearing about it,

1322
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 7: because so deep was the was the culture on that question.

1323
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 7: It's that you we are all underneath it, all the same.

1324
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 7: We're all created by God. We have different aptitudes or language,

1325
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 7: and we're very different in a lot of ways, but

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 7: fundamentally we're all going to stand alone before God. And

1327
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 7: that was the idea that spawned the Democratic Republic.

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Speaker 2: That we grew up in.

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Speaker 7: Any way, that that's the that's the core idea of

1330
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 7: America that has never articulated anymore. We didn't have fast

1331
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 7: track at Disney World when I was growing up. And

1332
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 7: I still feel that way, and I'm married to a

1333
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 7: chick who really feels that way. I mean really feels

1334
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 7: You get married in my family and you know, the

1335
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 7: guy cuts her grasses coming to your wedding, whether you

1336
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 7: like it or not, Like that's that's the rule in

1337
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 7: my house. I love that I'm not saying that to

1338
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 7: make myself south virtuous. It's just like that is something

1339
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 7: that we have lost and we have to fight to

1340
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 7: regain that. And all these like little fake aristocrats flying

1341
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 7: around their planes. That's one of the reasons I really

1342
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 7: am upset with them, is because they've forgotten that specific

1343
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 7: thing Charlie wanted.

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: Elites and yes and.

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01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you you model it and it's not

1346
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 8: gone because we're talking about it right now, and maybe

1347
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 8: we can bring it back in the spirit of actually

1348
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 8: doing a show we have. I have this great clip

1349
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 8: that I can't wait to share with everybody. But we're

1350
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 8: going to bring in Frank Turik, who cross talk. He

1351
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 8: was with Charlie on the day. Charlie he would go

1352
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 8: to Frank with ideas of apologetics and how to argue

1353
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 8: for the faith and contend for the faith in the

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01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 8: public squares. So Frank, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 8: with Tucker Carlson, the Great Tucker Carlson with us.

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01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 10: Hey, Hey, I just want to piggyback on something Tucker

1357
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 10: just said. The only worldview that agrees with what Tucker

1358
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 10: just said is Christianity. You know, in Hinduism. There's a

1359
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 10: cast system in Islam. If you're not a Muslim, you're

1360
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 10: a second class citizen. In the secular world. There's no

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01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 10: way to ground these moral values and the moral worth

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01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 10: that every individual has. The only worldview that does that

1363
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 10: is Christianity. And that was the worldview that Charlie and

1364
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 10: everybody here at this table right now wants to demonstrate

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01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 10: is true and try and persuade young people to follow.

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Speaker 7: I love that you said that. I think that that

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01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 7: is indisputably true. I think it's provable. I mean, you know,

1368
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 7: the Founding Documents still exists. We know what the people

1369
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 7: who wrote them were thinking, and they were informed by

1370
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 7: a culture that is a product of Christian civilization.

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 2: Period.

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 7: Western civilization is Christian civilization. And I'm not against other religions,

1373
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 7: by the way, I don't follow them, but I'm not

1374
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 7: mad at them. I'm just gonna want to say that

1375
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 7: I'm not I know a lot of great people who

1376
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 7: are of different faiths. But Christianity is unique in that

1377
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 7: it's true, and it's unique in that it believes that

1378
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 7: every person is at least potentially chosen by God. Every

1379
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 7: person and the whole New Testament is that story, by

1380
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 7: the way, and so.

1381
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: Christians feel that deeply.

1382
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 7: The cultures that they create reflect it, and I grieve

1383
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 7: it's passing and I pray for its return to our country.

1384
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 10: Well, ironically, Tucker, Charlie's martyrdom might be the turning point

1385
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 10: to bring it back. I don't know, Well, you do know,

1386
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 10: because you're seeing what's going on at TPUSA right now.

1387
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: Yes, how many.

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01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 10: People want to start TPUSA chapters? What are we up

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 10: to now, Andrew? Is it sixty two thousand something like that?

1390
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's growing by the minute, so it's probably,

1391
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 8: let's just say, approximately sixty five thousand.

1392
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: Whoa, it's we had we had two thousand before that.

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm seeing people online on some YouTube videos

1394
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 10: that have to do with Charlie, some of my own

1395
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 10: YouTube videos.

1396
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: They're all over the world.

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 10: There's people in Denmark going, you know, I was an

1398
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 10: atheist and because of Charlie Kirk, I'm a Christian now. Australia,

1399
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 10: same thing, London, same thing. This isn't just in America.

1400
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 10: This is happening all over the world, and so I

1401
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 10: want to commend every one of you for advancing the

1402
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 10: cause that Charlie so was so near and dear to

1403
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 10: Charlie's heart in a time of morning. It's got to

1404
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 10: be so difficult Andrew and Blake especially to continue on,

1405
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 10: but Charlie would want it.

1406
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: And that's why we're all here right now.

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 8: Well, and Frank, I you know, bless you. I know

1408
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 8: you've had to deal with the conspiracy theories and the

1409
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 8: you know, why'd you touch your hat at this time

1410
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 8: because you know that wretched video I mean, but bless you, brother.

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 8: I just want to be I just want to be

1412
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 8: a character reference for you. And Charlie loved you so much.

1413
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 8: You were always there for Charlie and I know how

1414
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 8: much he leaned on you for apologetics and for thinking

1415
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 8: through these deep issues you know, around that when he

1416
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 8: was on Bill Maher recently, and you know you've meant

1417
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 8: so much to him and your work at Cross examined

1418
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 8: like you are a dear brother and a dear friend,

1419
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 8: and some of that garbage like I don't even paid

1420
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 8: any heed, but I know you have. You were there

1421
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 8: the day that had happened. I know this has been

1422
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 8: terrible for you too, and you've had to deal with

1423
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 8: all this garbage. But you know, God bless you, and

1424
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 8: I'm sorry that that has been something in your experience.

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 2: Thanks, brother.

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01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 10: I mean that's that actually hasn't bothered me all that much,

1427
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 10: to tell you the truth. I just think it's so

1428
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 10: colossally stupid that if somebody wanted to shoot somebody, they

1429
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 10: need a guy standing twenty five feet from him to signal, hey,

1430
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 10: get him. He's the guy. I mean, he's It makes

1431
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 10: absolutely no sense at all. So it was just a

1432
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 10: terrible day. But we all did the best we could

1433
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 10: to try and help and save Charlie. And then once

1434
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 10: we couldn't, all we could do was take Erica's lead

1435
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 10: and your lead, Andrew and Mikey's lead, because you were

1436
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 10: all there to march forward and and take his legacy

1437
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 10: to new levels.

1438
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 2: And Lord Willing, that's what's going to happen.

1439
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 8: Well, Frank, You're going to be a key part of that.

1440
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 8: And you know, I joke with Erica. I'm like Erica,

1441
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 8: he left us all the keys he had, all the

1442
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 8: people that we needed, all the all the reference points,

1443
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 8: all the all the true allies, not the snakes, not

1444
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 8: the not the grifters, the true people. And you are

1445
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 8: a true man, and you have great character, and you

1446
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 8: have great heart, and you've been a great friend to

1447
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 8: Charlie and to us, so you know, as you wish

1448
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 8: I could say it a thousand times, Oh.

1449
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 10: Thank you, but let's just do it whatever we can

1450
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 10: to advance this legacy.

1451
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 8: Now, and that you mentioned it, Erica and I, me

1452
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 8: and Ticker Ridge just sad we want to we want

1453
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 8: to talk about Eric a little bit here, yea. So

1454
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 8: we have to go to a radio bank, but we're

1455
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 8: going to keep We're going to keep going for the stream.

1456
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 3: And so hang right there with us.

1457
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 8: The great Tucker Carlson, Charlie's dear, dear friend, is with us,

1458
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 8: and we're so honored by it. We'll be right back,

1459
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 8: all right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

1460
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 7: Do you want to hit I do want to hit that,

1461
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 7: because you know they've been referenced. I know that a

1462
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 7: lot of stuff going online. I've checked out. Actually just

1463
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 7: want to say that because it's too upsetting to me.

1464
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 7: I know it's extremely upsetting for you guys, since you're

1465
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 7: way more in the middle of it than I am.

1466
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:49,480
Speaker 7: But obviously you need a fair, impartial, well explained investigation

1467
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 7: that assures everyone the rule of law lives in the

1468
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 7: United States. I think it's essential and I hope that

1469
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 7: we get it. I think we're gonna have to push

1470
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 7: for it. We should push for it. But as to

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 7: what happened, again, I'm totally fair in my view to

1472
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 7: to ask sincere questions. But I think it's important to

1473
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 7: remember the big picture, which is whatever happened, it was

1474
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 7: a species of the same phenomenon, which was the fight

1475
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 7: of evil against good, and his murder was an attempt

1476
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 7: to extinguish the light period and it didn't work like that.

1477
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: That's the main thing to know. There are lots of

1478
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 2: things I want to know.

1479
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 7: And again, we have a civil system that has to

1480
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 7: go through a process in order for this government to continue,

1481
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 7: or any government, it has to be transparent and motivated

1482
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 7: by good faith, and it has to try to affect justice.

1483
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 7: That's a key and I don't think we should blow

1484
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 7: past it. However, again, big picture, this is light versus dark,

1485
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 7: and you feel the darkness all around us. It comes

1486
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 7: in many different forms and many different guises. These are disguises, okay,

1487
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 7: but what it really is is the age Old. You know,

1488
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,679
Speaker 7: it's it's the Lord of the Earth. It's Satan. Sorry

1489
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 7: to say, that it is deliver us from the evil one,

1490
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 7: I think is the actual translation in the Word's prayer,

1491
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 7: and the evil one is all around. But Charlie's murder

1492
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 7: is a reminder that we are surrounded by God and

1493
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,839
Speaker 7: God's protection in God's love, and that is so obvious.

1494
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 7: The light has not only not been extinguished, it's glowing brighter.

1495
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 7: I hate like dumb metaphors like that, except this one

1496
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 7: is totally real, and so we should. I speak for myself,

1497
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 7: I'm going to focus on that. I'm going to focus

1498
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,440
Speaker 7: on the big picture while demanding precise accounting. That is legitimate,

1499
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 7: But I'm not going to get so caught up in

1500
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 7: that stuff that I miss the true message, which is

1501
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 7: forces of darkness tried to extinguish the light, and not

1502
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 7: only did they fail, their effort was counterproductive.

1503
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: That is the truth.

1504
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: Frank, I was just sorry.

1505
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 8: I got I was sort of wrapped by what you

1506
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 8: were sorry.

1507
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: I felt that I felt it coming up.

1508
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't keep it down.

1509
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 2: It was beautiful.

1510
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 8: I was looking for somebody else to respond here quickly

1511
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 8: let mentioned.

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01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 10: Something related to that. You know, our mutual friend James

1513
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 10: Lindsay had a text he changed with Charlie. In fact,

1514
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 10: he sent it to me the other night because I

1515
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 10: was speaking out of university here in North Carolina on

1516
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 10: one Wednesday night about Charlie and I related this story.

1517
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 10: And let me just let me just read you what

1518
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 10: James sent to Charlie and what Charlie sent back. Very

1519
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 10: astute response by Charlie. James said, this is August twenty fourth,

1520
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 10: twenty twenty three. Communism is by far the best evidence

1521
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 10: in support of Satan's existence.

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Speaker 2: Charlie writes back, one hundred percent, and then the.

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Speaker 10: Next text he writes back, if there is a Satan,

1524
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 10: then there is a God, and James writes back that

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01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 10: would follow. So evil actually shows that God does exist,

1526
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 10: not that he doesn't, because there'd be no such thing

1527
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 10: as evil unless there was good, and there'd be no

1528
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 10: such thing as good unless God existed, because in any

1529
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 10: objective sense, the only way you can define good is

1530
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 10: God's nature. Otherwise everything's a matter of opinion. You couldn't

1531
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 10: say murder was really objectively wrong unless there's a standard

1532
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 10: of objectively right that we're all obligated to obey.

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: And what we mean by that is God's nature.

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 10: And has Tuck reported out earlier, our founders understood that

1535
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 10: we hold these truths to be self evident, that all

1536
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 10: men were created and endowed by their government. No, it

1537
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 10: doesn't say that, and dowed by their creator with certain

1538
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 10: unalienable rights.

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: So if evil exists, and that we all know it.

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01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 10: Does we saw it eight days ago, then God exists well.

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01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 7: And that is, honestly the way that a lot of

1542
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 7: us were convinced of the reality of God was by

1543
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 7: being forced to acknowledge the reality of evil.

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01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: I can say that for myself.

1545
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 7: My wife, who's like the the person who keeps our

1546
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 7: family text chain grounded in the truth, sent a verse

1547
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 7: this morning that basically said that exact thing, and there

1548
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 7: are a number of them throughout both older New Testaments,

1549
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 7: as you know better than I. But that say that

1550
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 7: God will use evil for his purposes, and that He

1551
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 7: will reveal himself through sadness as well as joy. And

1552
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 7: that is practically true. It's not even a theoretical concept,

1553
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 7: it's a living concept. For those of us who concluded

1554
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 7: just on the basis of the evidence that these were

1555
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 7: not political differences, actually these were not political phenomenon. These

1556
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 7: were a bunch of different things. I won't get specific,

1557
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 7: but you know what I'm talking about. This is the

1558
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 7: face of evil and that brought us to the reality

1559
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 7: of God.

1560
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: It's like wild that actually happened. It happened to me.

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 8: I'm loving all of this because it's making my head spinning.

1562
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 8: So let's take a quick fifteen second break and then

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 8: we'll welcome back radio.

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Speaker 2: That's a short ad.

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01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 8: I want to say one thing about I want everybody

1567
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 8: to know. And I know Blake you've been contemplating this too,

1568
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 8: but Charlie was willing to give the very last measure

1569
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 8: of his effort in his life. He really was.

1570
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 3: And he said it multiple times.

1571
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 8: And I think the first time he said it on stage,

1572
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 8: he you.

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: Know, it wasn't something that was planned.

1574
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 8: It came out of him naturally, and Erica heard it

1575
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 8: and Erica was like, be careful when you say that, please,

1576
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 8: you know, and that's really powerful. But he said it

1577
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 8: again and again. He said it on a Lance wall

1578
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 8: Now show. I remember one time saying like, you know,

1579
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 8: I mean, And he was very aware of the story

1580
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 8: of Steve, and he was very well aware of the

1581
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 8: of the prophets, and he was very well aware that

1582
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 8: people we want that wanted to hurt him, and it

1583
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 8: never stopped him. And I think we need to remember

1584
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 8: that when we when we think about evil, and we

1585
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 8: think about because death wears your victory, oh, death wears

1586
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 8: your sting. It's the last thing that you know. It's

1587
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 8: like you said, they tried, They meant it for evil,

1588
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 8: but the Lord is taking it and he's turning it

1589
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 8: to good and for the saving of many lives. And

1590
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,440
Speaker 8: I always was caught by that wording in the scriptures,

1591
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 8: the saving of many lives. Obviously was talking about the

1592
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 8: Israelites in that instance, but it as we contemplate it

1593
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 8: for our own moment, the saving of many lives. And

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01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,879
Speaker 8: I think about all these baptisms and all these reports

1595
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 8: of the churches being overflowing and across the country, and

1596
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 8: these we didn't riot, Tucker, we didn't burn businesses, we didn't.

1597
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 3: Tear down windows and doors. We prayed and Charlie.

1598
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 8: That is the biggest, most amazing testament to the character

1599
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 8: of Charlie cer.

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01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 7: And but it's also the nature of or it has

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01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 7: been my experience anyway. I'm not the ellogian, but I

1602
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 7: just will say that the I've had many moments, especially

1603
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 7: in the last ten years, where the boy you can

1604
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 7: feel it around you, like for real, and feel the menace,

1605
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 7: you can feel the hate, you can feel the threat

1606
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 7: comes out of nowhere. I've had a couple pretty intense

1607
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,440
Speaker 7: experiences with it, very intense, and they are followed invariably

1608
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 7: by the peace of God, by the Holy Spirit, and

1609
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 7: you know that God is using this moment for your benefit,

1610
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 7: your ratification, and your joy.

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01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: That is true, that out of tragedy.

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01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 7: And it's such a cliche and it's such a kind

1613
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 7: of syrupy hallmark false assurance on the surface that I

1614
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 7: hesitate even to say it, but I've just lived it

1615
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 7: so much.

1616
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: I've lived it so much.

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 7: That is absolutely how God is communicated with me in

1618
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 7: my life, like directly, is by contrasting His presence with

1619
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 7: the evil that you feel around you. And so it

1620
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,839
Speaker 7: is in a weird way in the middle of tragedy

1621
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 7: like a true blessing. And if you see a loved one,

1622
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 7: you know, we all go through this as we age.

1623
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 7: I've been through it a lot recently where someone who

1624
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 7: really really loved eyes and then you're just filled with

1625
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 7: this since the presence of God, that's absolutely real. It's

1626
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 7: not you're not manufacturing it. It's not like immune response

1627
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 7: or something. It's like a presence from outside coming into you.

1628
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 7: And I think the whole country feels it, or the

1629
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 7: people who are alive to it feel it now strongly.

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01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 10: In fact, the greatest evil of all time, the sacrifice

1631
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 10: of Jesus, has led to the greatest good. Yes, without

1632
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 10: the sacrifice of Jesus, we'd all be dead in our sins.

1633
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 10: But Christ was sacrifice so that our punishment could be

1634
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 10: put on him. And when we trust in him, we're

1635
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 10: not only forgiven, but we're given his righteousness. You know,

1636
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 10: there's a misunderstanding among some. They think in order to

1637
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 10: get to heaven, I got to be good. No, no, no, no,

1638
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 10: there's nobody good enough. Jesus said, there's nobody good but one,

1639
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 10: and that was him. In order to get to heaven,

1640
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 10: you need to take his sacrifice and apply it to yourself.

1641
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 10: You need to take the punishment that went on him,

1642
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 10: and you trust in him to get that forgiveness because

1643
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 10: your punishment was put on him. And then by trusting

1644
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 10: in him, you're not only forgiven, you're given his righteousness.

1645
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 10: So good works are a result of Christianity. They're not

1646
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 10: the cause of Christianity. The cause of Christianity in someone's

1647
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 10: life is to trust in what Christ has done, and

1648
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 10: out of love for what Christ has.

1649
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 2: Done, then you'll do good works.

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01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: Well.

1651
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 10: By the way, I'm really struck by a quote from

1652
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 10: Peter Kreft, who said this about what evil can do

1653
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 10: in our lives to help us become more like Christ.

1654
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 10: He said this, He said, the point of our lives

1655
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 10: is not comfort, security, or even happiness, but training, not fulfillment,

1656
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 10: but preparation. This world is a lousy home, but it's

1657
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 10: a fine gymnasium.

1658
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 8: Well, well, Frank, I just want to say again, I

1659
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 8: know you've got to catch a flight here, so God

1660
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 8: bless you, my friend. Thank you for joining us, thank

1661
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 8: you for being such a rock in Charlie's life. I'll say,

1662
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,879
Speaker 8: you don't have to give them any heed. I'm sorry

1663
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 8: about the conspiracy theories, specifically around you and some of

1664
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 8: my other friends that were around the table. They are

1665
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 8: utter garbage and we stand by you one hundred percent,

1666
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 8: my friend, and just thank you for being just an

1667
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 8: amazing guy and you meant so much to Charlie.

1668
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: And we'll see you in a few days.

1669
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 10: Thank you, Brother, Thank you Tucker, thank you Blake, Thanks Frank,

1670
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 10: God bless you guys.

1671
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1672
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 8: All Right, I have a clip of Charlie talking exactly

1673
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 8: about what we're talking about, and we're going to play

1674
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 8: it in about five seconds.

1675
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 4: Nice.

1676
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 8: So Charlie was very well aware of the existence of

1677
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 8: evil obviously, so we're us.

1678
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 3: On his team, you know. There.

1679
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 8: By the way, just one other conspiracy theory I just

1680
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 8: want to snuff out here.

1681
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 3: One of our dear friends.

1682
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 8: That literally from the very beginning started with us and

1683
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 8: loved Charlie like a brother. He grabbed the SD cards

1684
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 8: out of the camera afterwards, and there's all these conspiracy

1685
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 8: videos about like why did he grab the SD cards. Well,

1686
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 8: first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI. Okay,

1687
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 8: it's not like he took them and like ran off

1688
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 8: with them. Second of all, I asked him personally, I said,

1689
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 8: why did you do that? And he looked at me

1690
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 8: and this was his answer. He said, because I know

1691
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 8: people can be evil, and he did not want that

1692
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 8: footage being grabbed by somebody. There was videos of people

1693
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 8: after the incident going and stealing hats off the table.

1694
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 8: I mean so I'm so grateful he did that and

1695
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 8: that that was his instinct. He's like, I'm depressed to

1696
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 8: know that that was why I did that. But I

1697
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 8: knew that I had to protect that footage because I

1698
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 8: know I wanted. I mean, you know, you're recording in

1699
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 8: like four k you know. And so I'm so glad

1700
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 8: he did that. But Charlie knew the existence of evil?

1701
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 7: Can I say, I think that people can feel the

1702
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 7: existence of evil, and that just to put in a

1703
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 7: sympathetic word for people who are trying to make sense

1704
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 7: of this and coming to the wrong conclusions. I think

1705
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 7: they're motivated for the most part by pure intent. I

1706
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 7: think they don't trust the authorities. They have every reason

1707
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 7: to feel that way. I know that for a fact,

1708
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 7: not the trumpminstran in general, like we're not you know,

1709
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 7: there's been a lot of lying and it's corroded the trust.

1710
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 7: That's not their fault. Actually, they're the victims of it,

1711
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 7: and either of course bad actors who are doing it

1712
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 7: for clicks or whatever. But I guess, but there are

1713
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 7: far more people who love Charlie. They loved what he

1714
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 7: stood for. They feel like he was murdered by evil.

1715
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 7: They're absolutely right. They're not sure what variety of evil.

1716
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 7: There's no authoritated person to tell them, so I guess

1717
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 7: I'm just not surprised that all this is a message

1718
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 7: I've told to a lot of people. This is what

1719
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 7: happens when you lie too much and you hide too much.

1720
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 7: And going forward, I just want everybody with power to

1721
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,440
Speaker 7: be honest in the way that Charlie was honest about themselves.

1722
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 7: That will do more than anything to fix this, to

1723
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 7: make people love each other and hear each other. And

1724
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 7: if people are honest, we got here because of lying,

1725
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 7: and the only antidote is truth. And so truth about yourself,

1726
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 7: not about other people. Stop talking about other people. Admit

1727
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 7: who you are.

1728
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 2: And once you do that, people can feel that, and

1729
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 2: they immediately, as they did with Charlie, they respond to it.

1730
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 2: They're like, I.

1731
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 7: Believe you because you're honest about you anyway I want that.

1732
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1733
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 8: A buddy of mine just said something that I think

1734
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 8: is really profound. He said, two people, and I believe

1735
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,759
Speaker 8: this about you too, Tucker, which is why you're so important.

1736
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 8: But two people can say the same could say the

1737
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 8: same thing too, just as imagine Charlie Kirk thirty million

1738
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 8: followers across social media, and somebody else also very prominent. Yes,

1739
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 8: and they would say the same thing, but when Charlie

1740
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 8: said it, it would echo and ripple across the world.

1741
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, because we're all like, we're all animals, by the way,

1742
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,560
Speaker 7: and so so much of what we know we receive nonverbally.

1743
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 7: We can smell each other, we can feel the vibe.

1744
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 7: I don't care if that sounds flaky.

1745
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 2: It's true. My dogs can do it, and so can you.

1746
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 7: And if a deceptive man is speaking, I don't believe

1747
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 7: what he says, even if it's factually accurate. And if

1748
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 7: an honest man is speaking, I know it. I can

1749
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 7: feel it. That's way everyone loves Blake despite.

1750
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 3: His he is honest.

1751
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 7: He's not a liar. And Charlie was the same. And

1752
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 7: we just know that. You can't dissuade me of that.

1753
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 7: I know that's true.

1754
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 8: Let's go ahead and play cut twenty. This is Charlie

1755
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,839
Speaker 8: talking about the existence of evil, revealing God's presence.

1756
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: He has Christians, ethical monotheists, we have the problem of evil.

1757
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 1: Atheists have evil.

1758
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 3: No problem. On the atheist side.

1759
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: They can't say that evil actually exists because without God,

1760
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 1: if God does not exist, then we are nothing more

1761
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: than just a clump of cells. And there is no

1762
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 1: such thing as evil. You only know something is evil

1763
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: if you have good to.

1764
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 3: Compare it to.

1765
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: If I have a piece of paper and I draw

1766
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: a crooked line, how do you know this line is crooked?

1767
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: You immediately look at it. You say that's a crooked,

1768
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: squiggly line, only because in your mind you know what

1769
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: a straight line is. If you don't believe in God,

1770
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: then you say evil's no problem. But if you are

1771
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 1: upset with it, you actually are implying that you believe

1772
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: in God. You might be angry at God, you might

1773
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: be wrestling with God.

1774
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 3: You might think that God is onjust.

1775
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: That's a completely different thing than not believing in God.

1776
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 2: There's no one it doesn't believe in God.

1777
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 7: Everyone believes in God because the spirit of God is

1778
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 7: within us, because He made us. The divine spark exists

1779
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 7: whether you acknowledge it or not. So your options are three.

1780
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 7: Either you acknowledge it and try to live by it,

1781
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 7: you ignore it and numb yourself, or you rage against it.

1782
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 7: And so that would be the atheists, the agnostics, and

1783
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 7: the Christians in reverse order.

1784
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,440
Speaker 2: And you can see them immediately.

1785
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 7: You know, the the Agnostics are numb, the atheists are

1786
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 7: in rage, and the Christians have peace. But you don't

1787
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 7: have any other options because it's just real. It pre

1788
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 7: exists you and every single person feels it.

1789
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 8: Welcome back radio, all right, Welcome back to The Charlie

1790
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 8: Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett, executive producer of the show, My

1791
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 8: good friend Blake Neff, another producer of the show, and

1792
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 8: of course the great, good friend, wonderful man.

1793
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 3: Honestly, Tucker, thank you so much for making the time.

1794
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 8: By the way, everything we've asked of you, you just

1795
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 8: said whatever I could do, yes, I'll clear my schedule,

1796
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 8: Yes absolutely, And that's a that's just how you are,

1797
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 8: and I love that about you.

1798
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 2: Well, I want to get on the road.

1799
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 7: I mean, my favorite thing that Charlie did in his

1800
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 7: professional life was get out in physical speak to people

1801
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 7: in their physical presence. I think that's so important. I

1802
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 7: love the Internet. I guess pretend to love the Internet.

1803
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 7: I hate it, but mostly I love being with people

1804
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 7: physically and smelling them. And he was like the last

1805
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 7: person who really loved that. And he got murdered and

1806
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 7: I just I grieve his death of course, but I

1807
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 7: also am really concerned that that whole thing will die.

1808
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 7: It's so important to be there physically, like, ask me

1809
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 7: anything in my physical presence, And so I'm doing that

1810
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 7: for you guys. I'll do as much as you want

1811
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 7: because I just really believe in that.

1812
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 8: Well you you we were gonna save that for Monday,

1813
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,520
Speaker 8: but I.

1814
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: So they planner.

1815
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: But yeah, so breaking news.

1816
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: You guys want me to go out there, I will

1817
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: do it.

1818
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, breaking news here, Tucker Carlson will be a part

1819
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 8: of continuing Charlie's legacy by uh touring with us wherever

1820
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 8: you want.

1821
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 7: It'll be at least one stop. We'll say it like

1822
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 7: that during the grouse season. And so that's like the

1823
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 7: ultimate express and of love. Talk about laying down your life.

1824
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 3: I loved take up your cross daily. So I want to.

1825
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 3: I want to.

1826
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 8: I want to pivot this conversation to Charlie's wife. Yes,

1827
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 8: Erica Kirk and I joked yesterday, Yeah dot crap. I

1828
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 8: got a little you guys. You guys rasked me about it,

1829
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 8: but I was quoting Blake and because it came out,

1830
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 8: it was just this like amazing thing and I should

1831
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 8: know better than to air private conversations publicly, but Blake

1832
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 8: Erica was referenced, and Blake just goes, what.

1833
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 3: A woman.

1834
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,799
Speaker 2: Dide, She's unbelievable, she's amazing.

1835
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 7: I was in Phoenix, flying to Phoenix for something else,

1836
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 7: and Charlie texted me on the plane instead. I heard

1837
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 7: you come in Phoenix because he knew everybody, and I

1838
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 7: was like, how do you know that? He goes, do

1839
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 7: you have time for lunch?

1840
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 2: Yes? I had nothing to do with him. It was

1841
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 2: not here for turning point at all.

1842
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 7: And so I meet him at lunch with his girlfriend, Erica,

1843
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 7: and he wants me to introduce me to her, and

1844
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 7: I called Susie my wife after, and I was like,

1845
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 7: because my long standing view has been you know, it's critical,

1846
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 7: like a really believing marriage, but not for like syrape reasons,

1847
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:02,799
Speaker 7: like I think it really matters.

1848
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: And I was like, that chick is a star. I mean.

1849
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 7: She was just like, no, this is what's true, and

1850
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 7: that's not true. I mean she is tough is not

1851
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 7: exactly the right word, because it's from love, it's from

1852
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,839
Speaker 7: Christian faith, it's from faith in Jesus.

1853
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 2: But it like oh mannemin wait, oh.

1854
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 3: My gosh, unwavering.

1855
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 8: And you want to know a crazy I want to

1856
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 8: know a crazy thing. I just realized last night. So

1857
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 8: Andrew Breitbart dies in twenty twelve March first, that inspires

1858
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk to start turning Point USA in twenty twelve.

1859
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 8: Guess what else happened in twenty twelve. And we talk

1860
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 8: about people getting prepared in these little like nuggets that

1861
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 8: you think about.

1862
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 3: I just realized this.

1863
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 8: Erica Kirk won Miss Arizona in twenty twelve and hung

1864
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 8: out with Donald Trump in twenty twelve. Because of that,

1865
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 8: I know, and so I don't know there are no coincidences,

1866
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 8: but you can just see how God was preparing them.

1867
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 3: And you know Erica as well.

1868
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 8: You know, Erica grew up with a single mom, yep,

1869
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 8: and so you know obviously you wanted Charlie's kids to

1870
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 8: know their father in a deep and profound personal way.

1871
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 8: But Erica is uniquely, even in the midst of that tragedy,

1872
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 8: is uniquely able to navigate that, even just conceptually and emotionally,

1873
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 8: something I've talked to her about and it's it's powerful

1874
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 8: even hearing her as she's working these pieces out. And

1875
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 8: again I don't want to share too much privately. So

1876
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 8: they said this publicly and I just love it. And

1877
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 8: I shared this on Twitter x the other day and

1878
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 8: it went viral. So let's go ahead and play cut nineteen.

1879
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 8: One of my favorite interactions seeing Charlie and Erica.

1880
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: My wife joins us Erica kirk the beautiful legendary Erica.

1881
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 3: I love you so much. I love you.

1882
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: You're welcome to the Charlie Kirkshaw. We have asked the

1883
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: audience for questions.

1884
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 3: You pick one.

1885
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Who is more conservative and why Erica?

1886
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 3: Yes, by far, not even close.

1887
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,799
Speaker 2: I am a moderate to Erica.

1888
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 10: Andrew always jokes that once you got married to me,

1889
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 10: you got more base.

1890
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,520
Speaker 1: That's true, that is true. No, Erica is very conservative.

1891
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Do you think having kids made you more conservative?

1892
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:31,480
Speaker 3: In which I didn't think was possible but one percent? Absolutely?

1893
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 3: And a better wife m hm.

1894
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 2: The boy, that's the realest thing. Ever. It's hard to

1895
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: talk about your marriage because don't believe you.

1896
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 7: But of course, because it's like it's your wife, you

1897
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 7: can't say anything bad.

1898
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 2: But like, I just know for a fact that that's true.

1899
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 3: It's really true.

1900
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1901
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 7: And by the way, I should note, because I can't

1902
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 7: control myself, that there was a picture of them in Maine,

1903
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 7: which they loved.

1904
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:56,480
Speaker 2: That makes me sad.

1905
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Charlie was a bad He was bad at vacations,

1906
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 8: terrible at so he was in Maine this summer on

1907
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 8: vacation and he was I just loved how it kept like, oh, well, okay,

1908
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 8: Fox and Friends want me, wants me to guess, So

1909
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 8: we're going to take the weekend like the best days

1910
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 8: of the vacation, you know, where he could actually maybe.

1911
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 3: Erica was just totally game for it. She was like, cool,

1912
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 3: let's go to New York.

1913
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Now.

1914
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 7: They came to my house and he's like, I want

1915
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 7: to buy a house here. I was like, oh, got

1916
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 7: to the state needs you. It's good, you know, and

1917
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 7: I'm sorry that they didn't.

1918
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 9: But it's just been amazing to hear her talk about,

1919
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 9: you know, not just their relationship, but like how as

1920
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 9: you know, how they both viewed marriage and you know

1921
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 9: what you were saying the last the last exchange I

1922
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 9: had with Charlie by text message, just on the way

1923
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 9: to the event, he was I was like, what are

1924
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 9: the best arguments for monogamy? And it gets back to that,

1925
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 9: you know, the Christian civilization stuff we talked about because

1926
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 9: he loved all the takes i'd give him where I'm like, yeah,

1927
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 9: you know, Christian marriage is in the Bible, but it's

1928
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 9: also this like secret weapon that made the West great,

1929
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 9: and like countries that follow Christian marriage like they're amazing,

1930
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,879
Speaker 9: they excel, they improve, they get better, they have harmony

1931
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,759
Speaker 9: between men and women far more than any other civilition.

1932
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 9: He loved all of that, and so I was rattling

1933
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 9: all that off and I think the last thing I

1934
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 9: got from is he like hearted a list that I

1935
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 9: posted and ten minutes later he was on the stage.

1936
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, those I've looked back those because I was

1937
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 8: on that text chain and I was chiming in and

1938
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 8: they were the last text that I exchanged with them too,

1939
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,879
Speaker 8: And it was like thirty minutes before it happened.

1940
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 3: And yeah, we were talking about marriage.

1941
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 9: And when they talk about hearing Erica talk about it

1942
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 9: where she'll say stuff that sounds unbelievable to you. You know,

1943
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 9: she's like people would ask me, you know, did you

1944
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 9: get mad at Charlie because he traveled so much and

1945
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 9: was doing so many things, And she's like, no, I didn't,

1946
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 9: And it was because we were on the same team.

1947
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 3: We were on the same mission.

1948
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 9: And I would have never wanted to in any way

1949
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 9: be hindering from executing God's mission. And he would have

1950
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 9: never wanted to fail in any way in me executing

1951
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 9: the mission God gave me.

1952
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 3: But she was.

1953
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,679
Speaker 8: But when he was present, you know, he he practiced Shabbat,

1954
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 8: not because he's Jewish, but because he needed sort of

1955
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 8: a discipline to follow. And so from sundown on Friday,

1956
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 8: really all of Saturday, it was like he was off.

1957
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 3: He turns. You couldn't call him, you couldn't get a

1958
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 3: hold of him.

1959
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,640
Speaker 8: I mean, there was ways if an emergency happened that

1960
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 8: I could get a hold of him, but.

1961
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 9: And it was legit, but it was you'd see the

1962
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 9: wave of him, like reading the things you sent on

1963
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 9: like Friday night or Saturday, an.

1964
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 8: Knowing you up on Sunday when not trying to go

1965
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 8: to church. All of a sudden, Charlie's back on and

1966
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 8: it was just you know, and but but he he

1967
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 8: gave that time so purely and fully to his wife

1968
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 8: and kids, and Erica absorbed every moment of that. And I,

1969
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 8: you know, I told this story yesterday, and I do

1970
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 8: want to like clarify something because apparently people took it

1971
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 8: the wrong way. But the night it happened, she got

1972
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 8: a call from a very important person, and that very

1973
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 8: important person I'm not going to say who.

1974
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 3: Maybe isn't who you think, but it's a very important person.

1975
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 8: But asked like, I you know, I just have to ask, like,

1976
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 8: like what do you know? And he wasn't talking about

1977
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 8: some conspiracy there. We didn't even they hadn't even got

1978
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 8: the shooter at this point, and it's a fair question.

1979
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 8: He was asking, what do you know about Turning Point?

1980
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,520
Speaker 8: What do you know about what Charlie was doing? Politically?

1981
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 8: What do you know about the donors?

1982
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 2: What do you know?

1983
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 3: What do you know?

1984
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 2: Like?

1985
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 8: What are we working? What's our starting point here? And

1986
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:39,879
Speaker 8: she said back, I know everything, thank God. Because Charlie

1987
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 8: would spend they would walk and they would talk and

1988
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 8: they would religiously. They would walk because Charlie hurt his back.

1989
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 8: He couldn't run anymore. He used to run like seven

1990
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 8: to ten miles a day when I first started working

1991
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 8: with Charlie would just be gone running and he hurt

1992
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 8: his back. He couldn't do it. So they would walk together.

1993
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 8: And if you ever walked with Charlie, the guy could

1994
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 8: keep a pace, the guy big long legs. Yeah, and

1995
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 8: they would talk and they would lay in bed and

1996
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 8: they would talk, and he told she was his vault

1997
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 8: and she knows everything.

1998
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 7: She has the same spirit. So when that was announced

1999
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 7: or I heard that she was taking over, I was

2000
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 7: just I was just elated. It's not attack on anyone else,

2001
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 7: by the way, or a reference to any of the

2002
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 7: internet scene battles currently going on.

2003
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 2: Which I'm trying to not think about.

2004
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 7: It's just the fact, the provable fact that she had

2005
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 7: the same spirit and the same goals, the same mission

2006
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 7: that he had.

2007
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 3: That is just true, just more based.

2008
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 7: Let me, I just want it without you know whatever,

2009
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 7: but getting into it. But I just want to affirm that.

2010
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 7: I just saw that recently yet again, and I'm just

2011
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 7: so thankful that she's taking over because it's a big deal.

2012
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 7: I saw Trump on Monday. He said I couldn't got

2013
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 7: elected without Charlie Kirk, and I you know he's not

2014
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 7: prone the same things like that.

2015
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: He meant it.

2016
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 10: Wow.

2017
01:38:56,040 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jad said the same thing, yep with and I

2018
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 8: know j D feels that. And you know, it's just

2019
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 8: been amazing too to see Washington, you know, the Power Center,

2020
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 8: the Imperial Capital, as Charlie always just say. By the way,

2021
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 8: Charlie hated going to Washington, hated it. He loved being

2022
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 8: out here in Phoenix. Thought it was like our secret weapon.

2023
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 8: Well besides, you've been the secret It was our secret

2024
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 8: weapon to be outside of that bubble. And yet somehow

2025
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 8: all of Washington is coming to him.

2026
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 7: You know, kind of say one thing, I shouldn't even

2027
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 7: get involved in this, but it's a fact, so I

2028
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 7: want to say it.

2029
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 2: He loved jd.

2030
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 1: Vance.

2031
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 7: He loved Donald Trump. Of course often said it.

2032
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 9: But he he really loved the stuff he would talk

2033
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 9: about in private and some of that would, you know,

2034
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 9: bubble out.

2035
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 3: You know.

2036
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 9: He loves telling the story of the first time he

2037
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 9: endorsed him for office. And in case people haven't heard it,

2038
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 9: it's such a great story where you know, Vance has

2039
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 9: announced he's running in Ohio for Senate and it's a

2040
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 9: very long shot bit at this point, I think he

2041
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,759
Speaker 9: pulled that two or three. He comes in, he meets Charlie,

2042
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 9: he talks to Tyler too, and they come out and

2043
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 9: they're like, he said everything we believe, Like we we've

2044
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 9: got to endorse him.

2045
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 3: Like if we're not going to endorse this guy.

2046
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 9: What why are we even yeah exactly, and they're basically like,

2047
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 9: you know, they can make that commit. And there's a

2048
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 9: miscommunication because it's a big open senate you know, it's

2049
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 9: a big senate race, and Charlie's got to call a

2050
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 9: lot of donors and you know, explain why we're doing this.

2051
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 9: We're not going for your guy. This isn't a slide

2052
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 9: on you, you know, manage all.

2053
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: The other guy was their guy.

2054
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 9: Instead, there's a miscommunication and it just goes out like

2055
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 9: blast turning point is endorsing JD.

2056
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 2: Vance.

2057
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 9: It goes out way too early, and.

2058
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 3: He is somebody he's like what we all believe it and.

2059
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 8: He's just like JD Vances again by the way that

2060
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 8: you're part of that story, because it was he saw

2061
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 8: JD on your show and was like he and at

2062
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 8: that point he didn't know all the little deep things

2063
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:48,759
Speaker 8: that he believed, and he just he kept I remember

2064
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 8: him saying JD's got like something.

2065
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 3: There's something about JD.

2066
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 8: He's got He's got the goods.

2067
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 3: And before you explain.

2068
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 7: Why, I'm not going to get involved in another but

2069
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 7: I just say he loved.

2070
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 8: He loved it, and by the way j D loved him,

2071
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 8: and I think you can see that. We'll be right back.

2072
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 8: So all right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

2073
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:34,600
Speaker 8: Do you want to put any a cap on that.

2074
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 8: I know you have a story to.

2075
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 7: Tell, Well, I just I just want to. I don't

2076
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 7: think I can emphasize it enough. And again, I'm really

2077
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 7: gonna try, because I think the point of Charlie's life

2078
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 7: was following Jesus. I just want to say that again

2079
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 7: as someone who knew him well, I think at the

2080
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 7: point of his life was following Jesus. So I really

2081
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,640
Speaker 7: want to help be helpful to that mission and not

2082
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,440
Speaker 7: get distracted with the other stuff. And I have distracted

2083
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 7: with the other stuff for sure, because I feel strongly

2084
01:41:58,320 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 7: about it.

2085
01:41:58,640 --> 01:41:59,719
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna try and stop.

2086
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 7: But I just want to say, if you want to

2087
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 7: understand Charlie Kirk, he loved JD. Vance and Donald Trump,

2088
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 7: but he was genuinely close to j D, like as

2089
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 7: a friend and vice versa.

2090
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 2: And that's that is just factually true.

2091
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 7: And I don't want to hurt anybody by going on,

2092
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 7: but that.

2093
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 2: Is that is true.

2094
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 3: JD earned every yes he did.

2095
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 9: He loved the story and it really meant a lot

2096
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 9: to him. So we had that event in it was

2097
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 9: in June in Detroit and Detroit the People's Convention we

2098
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 9: called it.

2099
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 8: I assume that was like it was pre it was

2100
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 8: pre him getting announced as VP, and they were just

2101
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 8: starting to kind of like float his name.

2102
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 9: Out, yeah, which Charlie Force very much wanted to do,

2103
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 9: and you know, he used all of his political talents

2104
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 9: to try to promote that, and one of those things is, yeah,

2105
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 9: I invite him to the convention. And what he always

2106
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 9: loved about it was I think it was it was

2107
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 9: his anniversary, either the day before or the day after.

2108
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 8: And so yeah, no, no, it was the day before because yeah,

2109
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 8: we wanted him on Saturday night to be sort of

2110
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 8: the the finals beaker on Saturday night, and he.

2111
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 3: Said, Charlie would love that. He's like, it's my anniversary.

2112
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 3: Can merge have to be with my wife?

2113
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 8: But I will, I will commit to getting you getting

2114
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 8: there on Sunday, and Charlie was like, great, you could

2115
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 8: be the final speaker of the event.

2116
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 9: And that gave him just enough time to get to

2117
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 9: literally just drive up there, which I believe he did.

2118
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 9: He personally himself drive the car and he he gets

2119
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 9: there and like, you know, were you still a lot

2120
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 9: of people having you know, entourages and he just just

2121
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 9: I think he.

2122
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 3: Had one aid with him.

2123
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 2: There's JD.

2124
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:33,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's just like I'm JD Vance. I'm a speaker.

2125
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 9: I think like maybe some security guy didn't initially recognize him.

2126
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 8: No, he was Jadi Vance walking by himself backstage, was like,

2127
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 8: I think that's where you need, Like, you know, he's

2128
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 8: just kind of like strolling in and like we found

2129
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 8: out he drove.

2130
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 3: He's like, oh yeah.

2131
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 7: It was just you know, there's never been a less

2132
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 7: affected politician. I always promise myself, I'm not going to

2133
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 7: compliment hit Evans move because I don't want to hurt him.

2134
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 7: But there's never been a less affected leader ever, Like period.

2135
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 8: I totally agree, I've I've never seen one of there is.

2136
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 8: But yeah, Charlie. People would ask Charlie a lot, you know,

2137
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 8: are you gonna run for president? Are you gonna run

2138
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 8: for office? Or you know, like and he would always,

2139
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 8: you will not find one piece of content anywhere ever,

2140
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 8: it doesn't exist where he said, yeah, you know what,

2141
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 8: I want to be president someday. He would always say,

2142
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 8: he would always you know I love what I'm doing,

2143
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 8: like God's called me here, you know, we have more

2144
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 8: impact here, you know. And and that was all very true. Privately,

2145
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 8: I had that conversation with him, and I wouldn't say

2146
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 8: he answered it with me, although that maybe there were

2147
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 8: some other instances where I caught an inclination. But what

2148
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 8: he said was j D's ready, and because JD's running,

2149
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 8: I don't even have to think about it. And I

2150
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 8: don't know if that's like I don't know if he said,

2151
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 8: let me say, because JD exists, we're gonna do everything

2152
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 8: we can. He didn't say that he confirmed or anything.

2153
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 8: But because JD exists, I don't have to think about it.

2154
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 8: And Charlie, you know, was such a champion of JD's

2155
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 8: political talents in his future, and if JD does decide

2156
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 8: to do that, certainly Charlie would chare him on from

2157
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 8: the hereafter. But yeah, Charlie, Charlie has a lot of

2158
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 8: faith in JD.

2159
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 2: Vance.

2160
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 9: I always loved his frankness on just topics like that,

2161
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 9: you know, in the in the twenty twenty four primaries,

2162
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 9: like he would just come out and he's like, well,

2163
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 9: I promised Trump that if he ran again, in twenty

2164
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 9: four I would support him.

2165
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 3: So that was that, Like, I made a promise and.

2166
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 8: If Jad chooses to do that, then God bless him

2167
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 8: and I would be here to cheer him on.

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Speaker 3: We have our final radio segment of the day.

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Speaker 2: Are you serious?

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Speaker 8: It goes back with yeah, but I have this great

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Speaker 8: clip of Charlie that we're gonna play, so we'll be

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Speaker 8: right back.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is any

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Speaker 3: of Your.

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Speaker 8: Full that's the executive producer of this fine show. And

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Speaker 8: we have Tucker Carlson, the Great Tucker Carlson, the Great

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Speaker 8: Blake nef here and I'm gonna play one clip and

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Speaker 8: then Tucker, you're gonna take us home.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so play cut too.

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Speaker 8: This is Charlie talking about his lovely wife, Erica.

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Speaker 1: My wife is the best person ever, and she's a

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Speaker 1: patriot and she's a believer, and we don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to be accountable to God when this life passes.

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Speaker 1: And he asks, why did you not trust in me

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Speaker 1: and not fight evil? Because we as Christians are called

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Speaker 1: the fight evil. It's one of the less lesser known

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Speaker 1: scriptures Psalm ninety seven to ten. For those of you

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Speaker 1: that love God, you must hate evil. And again everyone

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Speaker 1: is called the something different in the body of Christ.

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Speaker 1: Some people are called to heal the sick. Some people

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Speaker 1: are called to mend broken marriages. Some people are called

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Speaker 1: to do outright hot gospel teaching. My call is to

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Speaker 1: fight evil and to proclaim truth.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Who has that clarity of purpose?

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Speaker 7: You know, at that age, it's such a rare gift,

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Speaker 7: and I think it is a gift. It's not detracting

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Speaker 7: from the choices that he made, but like he knew

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Speaker 7: what his purpose on this earth was, he worked tirelessly

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Speaker 7: to fulfill that tirelessly. I can't overstate that as someone

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Speaker 7: with a similar gig, like I've never seen a man

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Speaker 7: work harder and with greater self sacrifice, with greater self discipline.

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Speaker 7: And it all flowed from his belief that this is

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Speaker 7: not pointless are there's a race that we have to run,

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Speaker 7: and he I mean, he left us in midstride. I

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Speaker 7: thought that that night, and I was heartbroken and struggling

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Speaker 7: even now to control myself. Excuse me, but I had.

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Speaker 2: That image that day.

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Speaker 7: I was on a plane when it happened, of him

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Speaker 7: going like that, you know, leaving this earth in that

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Speaker 7: position in midstride, and that is as tragic and overwhelming

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Speaker 7: as it is. That is such a gift, like that

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Speaker 7: be the end of my life too, in all of

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Speaker 7: our lives, to leave in the midst of purpose, in

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Speaker 7: midst of forward motion. You know, very few people get that,

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Speaker 7: and you know, in this case, at thirty one, it's unimaginable. However,

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Speaker 7: that is something that I know that I want and

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Speaker 7: I think that every person who thinks about it wants

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Speaker 7: that too, and so I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know you have you have a special place

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Speaker 8: in the the Turning Point family, Tucker. I know you

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Speaker 8: know that you have you had a special place in

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Speaker 8: Charlie's heart. And I just want to address one thing

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Speaker 8: before we go here. We've got like two two and

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Speaker 8: a half minutes left. That there was pressure put on Charlie,

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Speaker 8: you know about you appearing at a turning point.

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Speaker 3: Oh you think he's such a scott about it. So

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Speaker 3: he's just like, oh, you're they're budding pressure on me.

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Speaker 3: So I've got to I've got a double down about it.

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Speaker 8: He was like, you know, so that some of the

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Speaker 8: funny texts is that we found.

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Speaker 3: Since then he goes Oh, they don't want me to

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Speaker 3: have Tucker. Oh maybe I'll have him speak.

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Speaker 8: Twice, you know, And and yeah, he just loved you.

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Speaker 8: And there was you know, and it was the hardest

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Speaker 8: thing to explain to people that you know, maybe didn't

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Speaker 8: like your views on foreign politible whatever, I didn't like

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Speaker 8: trying to be diplomatic hairduger it, embrace it, embrace it.

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Speaker 8: And and but I just you know, Charlie, this was

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Speaker 8: the hardest thing to explain, is that, like, guys, you

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Speaker 8: don't understand, Like Charlie's mission is three steps down. He's

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Speaker 8: he's keeping a coalition together, he's keeping friends together, he's

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Speaker 8: keeping networks together. He's he's a statesman, and he's not

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Speaker 8: he's not going to knee jerk and be morally blackmailed

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Speaker 8: by anybody. And if you and if you do it,

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Speaker 8: he will double down. And you saw it in that clip.

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Speaker 8: My mission is to confront evil and to proclaim the

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Speaker 8: truth wherever it is. And and I would just tell people, listen,

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Speaker 8: you might think one thing, fine, but Charlie and Tucker

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Speaker 8: are deeply, deeply, on a very personal level, friends, and

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Speaker 8: Charlie is loyal and if you go down this route,

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Speaker 8: don't be surprised when you have Tucker having three speeches

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Speaker 8: on three different nights at Amfest.

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Speaker 2: You know, like when I.

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Speaker 7: Was a kid, I drove my in high school, I

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Speaker 7: drove my car into a white pine in Maine going

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Speaker 7: about forty and I remember thinking it totaled the car.

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Speaker 7: And I remember thinking, Wow, the treatise doesn't move. It

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter hard to hit it. And that was Charlie.

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Speaker 7: He was just a towering white pine man. He was

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Speaker 7: just not It didn't matter how hard you hit him,

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Speaker 7: wasn't moving.

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Speaker 2: There's a few things I respect more than that.

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Speaker 8: Well, Tucker, it's been a pleasure, one of my favorite shows.

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Speaker 8: And I think it was so fitting that you capped

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Speaker 8: off the week. And I know you're going to be

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Speaker 8: speaking at his.

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Speaker 7: Celebration about Jesus, not politics, to be clear, and I'm

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Speaker 7: so glad that we could take some time to talk

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Speaker 7: about Jesus, not politics, because that's the whole point.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny.

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Speaker 8: When I first started being around you, the way you

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Speaker 8: would talk about faith was much more reticent and reserved,

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Speaker 8: and Charlie has made a convert out of you, and

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Speaker 8: you are proclaiming the truth as well as any preacher

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Speaker 8: I've ever heard, so thank you. May God bless you,

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Speaker 8: May God bless the reach of your word.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Talk to you soon.