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Speaker 2: The World's a Vegetal podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: I want to build a sustainable winner.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be a flash in the pan

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Speaker 4: like you want to go hang an NFC Championship runner

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Speaker 4: up and watch that way.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they did it right on purpose.

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Speaker 2: They weren't trying to lose. I don't think the commanders

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Speaker 2: would do anything. They give away what they did last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they can go hang their banner, but what's your

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Speaker 3: take on this?

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Speaker 6: Dude?

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Speaker 7: Give us your time with you guys, but I don't

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Speaker 7: want to gang up on.

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Speaker 6: Change like no, it is annoying and I think Wednesday Thursday,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, is today?

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Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken that they've been in paths right, yes, well,

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Speaker 4: they're never in full pads, Paul, I understand nobody couple

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Speaker 4: of picking knits today.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to like snob you, but you don't

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Speaker 2: sound like someone who played really competitive sports. NFL dot

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Let's Stadium, and they're becoming victory. Tuesday's victory Tuesday. Boy,

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Speaker 2: what a role we are on? Who to thunk it?

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Speaker 2: Who to thunk it? I Mean, we all said before

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Speaker 2: the season, we think they're going to improve. That's because

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Speaker 2: we think Drake's gonna get a little better. We think

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Speaker 2: the coaching is going to be better, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: see improvement. But this is this is crazy. Paul.

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Speaker 9: Paul always is a dendem too, unless Drake just makes

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Speaker 9: a crazy second year leap.

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Speaker 7: And that's kind of what's happened, right.

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Speaker 6: The definition of a crazy second year, which is seven

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Speaker 6: consecutive games with over one hundred passer rating and seventy

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Speaker 6: whatever percent completions and one hundred yards Russian and like

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Speaker 6: and all the other things that he's doing that have

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Speaker 6: only been done by guys like Brady Manning and Home

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Speaker 6: homes right and Rogers. That's it, Like, it's an unbelievable

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Speaker 6: level he's playing.

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Speaker 7: I never would have expected this.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I just you know, I thought it would

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Speaker 9: be a little up and down, that there'd be growing pains,

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Speaker 9: and you know, he'd have a good game and you'd

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Speaker 9: see his athletic talent and his arm on display, and

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Speaker 9: then he you know, has some brain farts and it,

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Speaker 9: you know, would be a little bit more.

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Speaker 7: Of a zigzag.

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Speaker 5: But I can't explain the other part that I would

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like when they always ask us, you know,

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Speaker 6: what do you think, you know, what if if they

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Speaker 6: end up with this, and we always say, well, we

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Speaker 6: need to see it. Like I could have been convinced,

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Speaker 6: maybe not six and two, but I would have said

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Speaker 6: you just look at the first eight games. I would

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Speaker 6: I did not. Yeah, but I didn't expect it to

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Speaker 6: look like this. I thought they could win games the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're ending the games in the third quarter.

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Speaker 6: It's not that surprising that they're they're handling the teams

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Speaker 6: when people ask you, what do you think they can do? Like,

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Speaker 6: would you consider nine and eight a good season? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but I would consider nine and eight the way they've

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Speaker 6: played the last few games good. But if it's nine

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Speaker 6: I was like, that's just because the other team was

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Speaker 6: That's the thing that's most exciting.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's even that's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce,

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Speaker 2: it's Matt and na Booth. We're talking Patriots for the

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Speaker 2: next couple hours. Just a lot to talk about with

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Speaker 2: his team. Most of it's good. But I do want

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Speaker 2: that I think I would you know, I think needs improvement.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the offensive line. I think we can

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, he is a generational player. Five sacks for

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Speaker 2: But I think overall, the fact that Drake does need

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Speaker 2: I think, Mike and when you could be playing better.

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Speaker 2: So it's not all gravy right now. I think there's

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Speaker 2: will say this, I will look in the camera when

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Speaker 2: I say this. I'm on team Campbell, Okay. But I

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Speaker 2: I hope that there's someone there explaining to him. Listen,

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Speaker 2: you just went up against a guy who is a

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Speaker 2: surefire Hall of Famer. So it's good that you're pissed.

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Speaker 2: You want to be pissed, and you don't want to

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Speaker 2: mind who you are going up against. And if you

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Speaker 2: be fine. So will If you're listening or someone from

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Speaker 2: your family. Don't worry about it. Be pissed. That's a

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Speaker 4: I think that the Will Campbell's stuff because I've seen

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Speaker 4: a lot of people, myself included, trying to say, if

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Speaker 4: you actually watched the film, it wasn't as bad as

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Speaker 4: it seemed watching live. I that is true, But two

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Speaker 4: that's like giving up a touchdown as a cornerback, right,

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Speaker 4: Like as good as you might have played on the

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Speaker 4: I think the reason you know two things. I think

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Miles Garrett would have had the

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Speaker 4: I just got beat on a great move by Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 4: throwing the ball away. You know, all of these sacks

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Speaker 4: if there's one little blemish on Drake, and he's been

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Speaker 4: one little blemish on Drake, it's that he's taken a

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Speaker 4: Now you could say that he's taking the sacks and

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Speaker 4: that's better than you know, maybe the alternative. You know,

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Speaker 4: we could have that conversation. But he is taking a

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Speaker 2: Oh, you make a good point about what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: You know, over the last three years with this line,

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Speaker 2: get those free runners to the quarterback, and that's a

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Speaker 2: good thing. But I think mainly the point I want

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Speaker 2: That's a good thing. You keep that mindset, you keep

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Speaker 9: I don't know, Like I didn't do a total grind

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Speaker 4: Are are a team stat sacks are not always just

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Speaker 4: to sign to the offensive line, and that's why you know,

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Speaker 4: Runs right into the line of scrimmage and gets and

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Speaker 3: So he just got hung up a little bit on that.

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Speaker 4: When you get down there in the red zone, it

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Speaker 4: in the red zone. And I'm killing Drake right out

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Speaker 4: of the shoot. And he's playing like a top three

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Speaker 6: But we live in well.

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Speaker 4: I think, Paul you said to me the other day

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Speaker 6: I still can't believe just how good he's been for

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Speaker 3: Games, it's over.

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Speaker 4: Like they're not scoring seventeen against US BUS but not

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Speaker 3: Drive felt like they were like, let's empty.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Josh, if you go on Patriots dot com

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Speaker 2: It's a good ten minutes of Josh McDaniels and friends.

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Speaker 7: Is Josh tight pants guy?

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Speaker 3: Is he qualify one of the ogs?

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Speaker 2: You think he's an O. G. Pitt four guys?

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Speaker 5: He was?

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Speaker 4: He was a really young coordinate he was. He was

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Speaker 6: You know, they don't all wear tight pants, right, most

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Speaker 3: Not a tight pants.

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Speaker 2: Guy, I don't think because he wasn't.

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Speaker 6: Like when they called like Red Sox fans like sometimes

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Speaker 8: Now it's symbolic, right, right, it's not like physically younger

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Speaker 5: He didn't develop the offense.

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Speaker 4: To the contrary, I mean, like he completely changed the

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Speaker 2: It was vertical because they had Randy Moss.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so the slot receiver first of all, is a

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Speaker 4: A lot of this stuff and okay, or the tempo.

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Speaker 4: The tempo thing is like all Josh McDaniels, you know,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't call it Charlie Weis's offense.

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Speaker 3: It was whatever you want that calling.

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Speaker 4: Calling what the the Shanahan treat right now is running

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Speaker 4: the Bill Walsh offense like it's it's that's what I

442
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Speaker 4: would do. Well, I would be incorrect, Like.

443
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Speaker 6: Okay, because you love those guys, but no, it's not

444
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Speaker 6: because I love the falls.

445
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like that's like Tred.

446
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 5: And Andy Reid with it where.

447
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 4: We're talking, we're talking about like like you know, a

448
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 4: tesla versus like a model t here, Like you can't

449
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 4: like the way that they have like updated those types

450
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Speaker 4: of offense. I don't understand why this is disrespectful.

451
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Speaker 2: Couldn't do what Patrick Mahomes can do.

452
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Speaker 3: I don't.

453
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Speaker 4: I don't understand what the problem is here, Like they

454
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Speaker 4: they took an offense that back in the eighties with

455
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Speaker 4: Bill Walsh for just to stick on this example that yes,

456
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: that was the like the foundation of the West Coast

457
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: offense and now it has evolved and innovative over a

458
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 4: period of time. That doesn't take anything away from Bill

459
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 4: Walsh it's just like it's not the it's not really

460
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Speaker 4: the same. Like it is the same principles and they're

461
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Speaker 4: the same foundations.

462
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Speaker 2: But did it, you know, because the athletes have evolved,

463
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Speaker 2: or did it evolve because you know, we just changed

464
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Speaker 2: the office.

465
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Speaker 5: You have to evolve as the defense is adjusted.

466
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Speaker 2: And that's true too.

467
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Speaker 6: I'm not saying they run exactly the same every way,

468
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Speaker 6: but yeah, I kind of it's kind of Paul Brown,

469
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Speaker 6: if you really want to get to it, that that

470
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Speaker 6: whole system that Walsh went to Cincinnati actually as the

471
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Speaker 6: offensive coordinator and did some of this, but you know

472
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Speaker 6: we're splitting.

473
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Speaker 5: We don't have to do I mean, if you want

474
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Speaker 5: to really get it down.

475
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Speaker 4: To well, some confused as to why this is like

476
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Speaker 4: a negative thing, it's not.

477
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Speaker 6: It's not a negative thing at all. Brett doesn't want

478
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Speaker 6: to put him in the tight pants.

479
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter where you put him.

480
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Speaker 4: I just think that like saying that this wasn't really

481
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Speaker 4: Josh's offense because it was earn Hart and Perkins's offense

482
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Speaker 4: in the nineteen seventies.

483
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Speaker 6: That's why I said, like, I.

484
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Speaker 9: Think we should have like a thing where you present

485
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Speaker 9: Josh with some pants and then you're like, oh, these.

486
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: Are a little these are a little tight exactly exactly.

487
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Speaker 7: Know, it's like a.

488
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Speaker 3: Ceremonial, like and I do something cool with him instead.

489
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Speaker 7: Of I can't quite get him on. To keep trying,

490
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Speaker 7: you will.

491
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Speaker 5: Get jealous that you didn't get to sit in with

492
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Speaker 5: Mike and I do.

493
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Speaker 7: We have a little breaking news here according to the

494
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Speaker 7: rap sheet, you know, like, why do they have to share?

495
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Speaker 3: Why do they have to do this seven minutes a.

496
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Speaker 9: Week in Rappaport, it's reporting on x that Marcus Jones

497
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Speaker 9: has signed an extension.

498
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Speaker 2: Three new years for the Patriots. So Rapaport's reporting it.

499
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Speaker 2: We knew that we actually were, we actually were with

500
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Speaker 2: him when he signed it. So I think in about

501
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Speaker 2: ten minutes that'll drop. That's a patries dot com.

502
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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, unfortunate the way it got announced, but

503
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 6: that's a great that's a that's a great signing.

504
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

505
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Speaker 5: I think he's played really, really well.

506
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Speaker 6: I think he's the kind of guy that you should

507
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 6: want to invest in and extend and keeping your your culture.

508
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Speaker 4: Great, great move. You know I have a crush Yeah.

509
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Speaker 6: Full disclosure, I have a crush on Marcus Jones.

510
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Speaker 1: Yep.

511
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Speaker 6: But that being said, I don't. I think anybody objectively

512
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 6: would look at him playing at a much higher level

513
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 6: defensively than he has. And he's always been the electric

514
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 6: punt return of that he is.

515
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Speaker 7: That's the thing.

516
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Speaker 9: I mean, that's we've always known about his kick return

517
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Speaker 9: of coverage, and you know, to me, this was.

518
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Speaker 7: The player I saw when he was coming out.

519
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 9: I was like, man, this guy's small, but he's just

520
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 9: so sticky in man coverage. And I feel like this

521
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 9: is the first year that I've really seen that start

522
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Speaker 9: to translate, where you know, he is just right on

523
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Speaker 9: top of guys, and you know, sure they make some

524
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Speaker 9: catches here and there on him.

525
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Speaker 7: He's not the biggest guy, but everything.

526
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: Feels and also physical, not afraid, you know, for his size,

527
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: not afraid to get at the line and make tackles.

528
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Speaker 6: Almost the point guys, you'd like to see him tone

529
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Speaker 6: that down, Yeah, so he stays.

530
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I love that you brought that up, though, Fred, because

532
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Speaker 9: I've seen him a couple of times just taking on

533
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Speaker 9: this personality that Mike Rabel's preaching, effort and finish, and

534
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Speaker 9: I think you've seen that a lot from Marcus Jones

535
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Speaker 9: this year, even like you said, not the biggest guy,

536
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Speaker 9: but willing to stick is you know, stick his nose

537
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Speaker 9: in there making plays on the ball. So it's uh,

538
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Speaker 9: you know, was entering a contract year, so this is

539
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Speaker 9: a nice signing. And the captain this year too.

540
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Speaker 4: For the first there was a play early in the

541
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Speaker 4: game go ahead, No, I just wanted to pay you

542
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Speaker 4: back off what due said. You know, he was on

543
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Speaker 4: the last year of his rookie contract, so he was

544
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Speaker 4: going to be a free agent next offseason and one

545
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Speaker 4: of the few like marquee free agents that they were

546
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Speaker 4: going to have in terms of like starters that were

547
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Speaker 4: up at the end of the year. So proactive, really

548
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Speaker 4: proactive them to get this done and avoid the open

549
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: market and avoid the tags and like all that stuff

550
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: in February and March. And his job is a slot corner.

551
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: Is one of the hardest things to do in the

552
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Speaker 4: NFL when you have to cover receivers inside the formation

553
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 4: that have two way gos that can go run vertical,

554
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 4: that can you know, go in and go out wherever.

555
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: It's not like covering on the outside where you can

556
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Speaker 4: stick a guy on the sideline. Like you have to

557
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 4: have a ton of awareness, coverage ability, you know, speed,

558
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 4: quickness like all of it, and he's done a really

559
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: really good job of that. I think that he you know,

560
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Speaker 4: if they nowadays they kind of amplify the slot corner

561
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Speaker 4: of it as its own position. I think right now

562
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Speaker 4: it's trending towards him having a real chance of being

563
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Speaker 4: an All Pro at the slot position and at punt returner.

564
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Speaker 4: So this is a guy that's really come into his

565
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 4: own this year with this team. He's one of the

566
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Speaker 4: best nickel corners in football. He's one of the best

567
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Speaker 4: punt returners in football. Team captain this.

568
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Speaker 2: Is And if any team says, and I'm not saying

569
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Speaker 2: this team has, but if any team says, oh, we

570
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: don't do contracts in the middle of the season, don't

571
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Speaker 2: believe them. Teams will do it when they they feel

572
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Speaker 2: as the right time.

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Speaker 6: More often than not, when that happens, it's because the

574
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Speaker 6: player doesn't want to talk about that stuff during the season.

575
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Speaker 5: That's generally a tea like a player thing play.

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Speaker 2: They don't like to talk about it. If they can

577
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Speaker 2: get more.

578
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Speaker 6: Money, yeah they don't. I mean, if if you want

579
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Speaker 6: to get it done and just do it, they don't

580
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Speaker 6: want to deal with it. It's basically but I agree

581
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Speaker 6: with you. I've seen a million contract extensions, but this

582
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 6: is like an example, and I think that there's been

583
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Speaker 6: i'd say a half dozen of these kinds of plays

584
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Speaker 6: that I remember from Marcus Jones this year, and they're

585
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Speaker 6: not It's not always the flashy play that you know,

586
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 6: like Jalen Hawkins makes an incredible one hinted interception and

587
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 6: it makes all the highlight reels and rightly so it

588
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 6: was a great play. But I think Marcus Jones has

589
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 6: made this kind of a play a lot, and it's

590
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Speaker 6: a really big play. At the time that he makes it.

591
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Speaker 6: The game opens up, Patriots gonn. They get held to

592
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 6: a field goal, then Cleveland goes right down for touchdown.

593
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 5: Patriots then go three and out.

594
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 6: So all of a sudden, the things that you were

595
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 6: worried about are kind of happening, you know. And here

596
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 6: comes Cleveland again, second possession. Bang ten yard gain in

597
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 6: the first play, bang four yard gain on the second place.

598
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 6: So now they just went seventy yards on you. Now

599
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 6: they just got a first down on their first play,

600
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Speaker 6: and they look like they're going to get a second

601
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 6: first down as they're setting up, you know, a second

602
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 6: and six. Good solid efficient run on their first run

603
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 6: of the you know, of that drive, and then they

604
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 6: throw a little pass out to Judkins, who's a good

605
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 6: running back, and they're looking to get four or five

606
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 6: more yards, and Marcus Jones comes shooting up and buries

607
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 6: them for a two yard loss.

608
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: Took away two reads on that point.

609
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 6: Puts away to me, that ends a drive because Cleveland

610
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 6: cannot convert on those kinds of situations third and eight.

611
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 5: They're done. They're not going to be able to do it.

612
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 6: Just such a subtle play, the physicality Evan just mentioned

613
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 6: sort of the instincts and the recognition that he had.

614
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 6: I remember plays like that from him at least a

615
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 6: half dozen times where out of nowhere he just comes

616
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: in blows up a little swing pass or screen or something.

617
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: You know. He got called for a penalty on one

618
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 6: kind of play like that on the friar mouth when

619
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 6: he ended up going low and he missed the tackle.

620
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 6: He was going for the tackle, but he missed the

621
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 6: tackle and got a blocker. I just Marcus Jones to me,

622
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 6: is the kind of guy that you want.

623
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Speaker 9: To keep in your program. I mean that just highly

624
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 9: just the size of Judkins too. I mean It's not

625
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 9: an easy play for Marcus Jones. I'm not sure exactly

626
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 9: giving up twenty thirty pounds, probably that guy, but you know,

627
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 9: taking on guys getting low.

628
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 6: He's so if they convert that, now all of a sudden,

629
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 6: they're in Patriot's territory again again, you know, and maybe

630
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 6: they're gonna get points. And now maybe the first half

631
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 6: is sort of establishing itself as a half that you're

632
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 6: chasing two scores and instead you end up forcing a

633
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 6: punt on the next play.

634
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 5: You know, it took you a while.

635
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 6: But you got your bearings offensively, but you never really

636
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 6: fell behind by multiple schoolers.

637
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 5: It was only seven to three.

638
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, No, that play stood out to me as well.

639
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: And you know, he's got curl flat and plays the

640
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 4: curl first and takes away the deeper throw and then

641
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 4: makes Gabriel check it down to the flat and then

642
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: just shot out of a cannon on the flat and

643
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: tackles him for a tackle for loss on that one.

644
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: And you know, the interception against Buffalo obviously is a

645
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: big play.

646
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: That he's made this year too.

647
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: That was a huge one and basically blew out Carolina

648
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: all by himself. In Week three, I mean took that

649
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: game over as a punt returner.

650
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 6: That was another one, not just that he made the play,

651
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 6: but when he made the play when you were kind

652
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 6: of listing a little bit, when he returns that punt

653
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 6: for a touch.

654
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: That punt return touchdown against Carolina might be one of

655
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: the best I've ever seen.

656
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: Remind us where he was.

657
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: Third round eighty six overall, something like that, Yeah.

658
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 6: Good pick, really good pick.

659
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: It's one of the few picks, and not to do

660
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 4: this whole thing, but it's one of the few picks

661
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: in that draft that made sense.

662
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 5: When everybody loved right the time, it was.

663
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: A consensus good pick Patriots, and the rest of that

664
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: draft was like who in the first Yeah, Chattanooga, But

665
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: the rest of it was I.

666
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 9: Wonder if if he's really healthy for the you know,

667
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 9: I just he's battled so many different injuries. I just

668
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 9: I wonder if maybe the reason part of the reason

669
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 9: he's having such a breakout this year is maybe that

670
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 9: he's just finally feels up to one hundred. But he

671
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 9: came the year after Josh left in twenty two. I

672
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 9: still wonder if there's any any little plays on offense

673
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 9: for Josh jos Loo is getting created. He lets get

674
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 9: a little crazy, but I think they've got the pieces

675
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 9: on offense. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him

676
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 9: at some point.

677
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: Maybe they wanted to sign him before they started using

678
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 2: on my offense because the price would go up once

679
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: they did that, right, right.

680
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 6: Right, So, just to recap the first half hour, fred

681
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 6: is the one who has and it's to pick with

682
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 6: the offensive line, and he's calling in to question the

683
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 6: timing of a contract extension. Very unlike you, Freddy, keepit heal.

684
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 6: I thought you'd be handling a five game winning streak better.

685
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm listen, this is this is great. I don't even

686
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: know what to make of it.

687
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, so that would be my knit to pick.

688
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 6: I don't know what to make of it yet. Yeah,

689
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 6: I know what to make a Drake may But yeah,

690
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: I want to see it, you know. I want to

691
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 6: see the second half of the season unfold. I want

692
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 6: to see. But I will ninety nine percent sure they're

693
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 6: going to be part of the playoffs. I want to

694
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 6: see what it looks like when they get there. I

695
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 6: don't want to put the cart in front of the horse.

696
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: That's I will say. You know, somebody on one of

697
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: your shows, Well, they're beating all the bad teams. Well,

698
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: last year they played the bad teams too, and they

699
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: lost him.

700
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 6: Right, And this is what we all knew, that they improved, right,

701
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 6: and that they would have an opportunity to win some

702
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 6: of these games. But I have been impressed with the

703
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: way they've won, especially the last two.

704
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Right, these aren't you know?

705
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 6: The New Orleans won was kind of like what I

706
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 6: was expecting then, you know, if they had a really

707
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 6: good season, I expected a lot of wins like the

708
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: New Orleans one that kind of could have gone you

709
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 6: the way the last two games couldn't have gone either way.

710
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, only one way that those two games were going

711
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: to go.

712
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 7: That's your point, Friday. I looked it up.

713
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 9: I think there were twenty eighth in strength of schedule

714
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 9: after the fact last year, you know, not before the

715
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 9: season when you know, but after the fact. They played

716
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 9: a really easy schedule last year too. They won four games,

717
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 9: so right, you know, right.

718
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: I mean the quarterback right now is the second in

719
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: betting odds for the MVP of the league.

720
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 5: And should be and maybe you can make an argument

721
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 5: you should be first.

722
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Mahomes and Alan are up there kind of

723
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: on cotails right now, right like resumes.

724
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: They haven't played as well as Drake may.

725
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 4: Mahomes has played really well he has. I'm not saying

726
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: that they haven't played well, but I think played better. Yeah,

727
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: and he you know the drive that obviously, the scripted

728
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: drive by McDaniels out of the half is great. But

729
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 4: the other touchdown drive in the third quarter that they

730
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 4: put together, that twenty eight yards scramble, thirty nine yard

731
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: touchdown on a dime to Keiseh on booty, like that

732
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: is an MVP put the team on your back kind

733
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: of drove absolutely right. And the only guy that I

734
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: see that consistently does it like that is Josh Allen.

735
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: Like Josh Allen will hit you with the thirty yard scramble,

736
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: hit you with another haymaker, and then all of a sudden,

737
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: it's the game is over. Like that's the type of

738
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: things that you do when you look back on like

739
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: an MVP season against the top ten defense in the

740
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: league and he just said, hey, you know what, this

741
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: game's over.

742
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: I'm just going to do this now.

743
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: He needs his moments.

744
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what that's the only you know, and it's again,

745
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 6: not his It's not the Patriot's fault that they're playing

746
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 6: bad teams and beating the bag out of them, And

747
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 6: it's not May's fault that he hasn't had to have

748
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 6: these moments that these other quarterbacks you've had.

749
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: On the post game show, I we talked about Booty

750
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: and I said, you know, pro bowler, and I was

751
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: I was poop pooed. Why Why wouldn't I think.

752
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 6: Because he's like thirty fifth in receiving, Like, what does

753
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 6: that mean? So he's not a Pro Bowl he's not

754
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: one of the best receivers in football.

755
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: Thirty what what is that yards?

756
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: I think it was yards.

757
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I looked it up when you said it because

758
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 6: I wanted to make sure I wasn't like, and I

759
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: didn't poo poo you. I just I don't think so

760
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 6: Like he catches like two passes a game. Now, he's

761
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 6: doing everything that you're asking him to do for the Patriots.

762
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 6: He's been immense, But that doesn't make him justin.

763
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: Jefferson, I didn't say he was.

764
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 6: Those are Pro Bowl like Jamar Chase, those are Pro

765
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 6: Bowl receivers.

766
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but more than two guys make the Pro Bowl. Look,

767
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: I know I know that guy on.

768
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 6: TV, as you like to say to Mike and I

769
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 6: when we do that, they can't see no.

770
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: But I just think the type of plays that he's

771
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: making I think is raising eyebrows around the league he's

772
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: playing with. People are like, this guy's money, he's guys.

773
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 6: He's played well, But that doesn't mean that you are

774
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 6: one of the best receivers in football. That's what Pro

775
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 6: Bowl means, that's what all Pro meets.

776
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: I think he's getting up there.

777
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 4: I think I don't even think he's sniffing it. I

778
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: think it's it's gonna be interesting to see what happens

779
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: once teams realize that you can't leave him one on

780
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: one backside anymore, because like every week they just keep

781
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: on leaving him one on one backside on the coverage

782
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 4: and him and Drake Mayer just absolutely torching teams.

783
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: And I just at some point they're gonna have to

784
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: do something different.

785
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: Like that's a good point. I'm not even taking that

786
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: away from him. I'm just saying, like you he's like, like, literally,

787
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 6: I look this up. He was like thirty fifth and

788
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: either yards or receptions, one of the two. Okay, Like,

789
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 6: if you you have to be like in the at

790
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 6: least in the top ten.

791
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: But I consideration, I think if he keeps up this pace,

792
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: he'll be close to one thousand yards, right you will.

793
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: I mean, he's one of the most efficient receivers in

794
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 4: the league in terms of eight catch on a per

795
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: target basis. He's one of the most efficient receivers in

796
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: football right now. But I think the main thing is

797
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 4: that they're seeing a lot of you know, quarters coverage

798
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 4: where he's one on one on the backside with the

799
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: corners and he's just he's just beating these guys. Now,

800
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 4: how long does he get that one on one coverage

801
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: and do they start putting you know, cloud coverage and

802
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: all the different things that double booty right, Like what

803
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: do they do to take that away?

804
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: Because in New Orleans he did it to him twice.

805
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 4: In Tennessee they hit a bomb and then last week

806
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: they hit a bomb and it's like at some point

807
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: you got to look up and say, booties too, like

808
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: we can't do this, Like this is going to burn us.

809
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: And the double move that he ran on on Sunday

810
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 4: was an awesome route.

811
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: You know, gave him a little you know and then

812
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: go and it was just like it was pitch and cad.

813
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 4: It was literally like, I mean that throw is just

814
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 4: is just such a thing of beauty watching Drake May

815
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: throw a deep ball. It's he's the best deep ball

816
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 4: thrower in football. He really is, and it's just it's

817
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: fun to watch. Their their second right now in the league.

818
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 4: And explosive play rate uh on offense. I have the

819
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 4: second most explosive passing offense in football, and so you Sai,

820
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 4: that's crazy.

821
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 6: During the game that I think was very apt, we

822
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 6: both had a laugh about it. He's kind of Chris Hogan, Yeah,

823
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 6: like where he just gets this cloak of invisibility.

824
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: No, I guess I said, pop is the news Chris Hogh.

825
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 6: Okay, I think Booty is the guy.

826
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: He's making these These are great catches. Some of them

827
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: are contested.

828
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 6: I didn't say that.

829
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Well, the thing about Hogan is he'd be wide open,

830
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: there'd be no one near it.

831
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 6: Booty was wide open. He's been wide open a lot.

832
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 6: He was wide open.

833
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: He was wide open in Cleveland.

834
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: The touchdown he caught, he wasn't wide open.

835
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 6: It was I agree with Evan, it's a great throw

836
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 6: by Drake May just because he's wide open. Doesn't mean

837
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 6: it's not a great throw, but it was a great

838
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 6: double move and he burned the guy he's like three

839
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: yards behind.

840
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: Catch down the sideline.

841
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 4: And I was saying, like the difference between him and Hogan,

842
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: like Hogan was literally running through the zones wide open.

843
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: Why do you just let him say? Yeah, I enjoy

844
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: his I enjoyed. What did I say, He's not always

845
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: wide open.

846
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 6: I'm talking about those two I didn't say every play.

847
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 5: I just said those two deep.

848
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 2: Balls, he was wide open.

849
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 5: He gets credit for that.

850
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 6: Okay, he made like that he was open on the

851
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 6: place Sunday, because.

852
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: Is when you're like standing in the field.

853
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 5: I thought you were talking about Booty.

854
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 6: Talking about bath whole cloth of invisibility is irrelevant because

855
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 6: you were talking about a different guy. I misremembered. That

856
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 6: was my bad clue. It was a push, But I

857
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 6: get Booty or whatever. No, no, no, I'm talking about Booty.

858
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: I I think he's own little conversation.

859
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 5: I think he made a great double move on that play.

860
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: Like that's like, that's that's his his job. I mean

861
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 6: he's on pace for like forty six catches. That's a

862
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 6: pro bowler. I mean, I'm sorry, he got five, he's

863
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 6: got twenty three. Yeah, five, Yeah, now you get the ten.

864
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he's leading in the league deeperception.

865
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 6: So let's just let's just double his stats and say

866
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 6: he gets let's just call it fifty catches for nine

867
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 6: hundred yards and ten touchdowns.

868
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: That's not a pro bowler. I'm sorry, it's just not.

869
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: Oh, after other people drop out, he'll he'll.

870
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 5: Go by other people.

871
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 6: Do you mean all the other receivers in the league,

872
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 6: all of them all, Diggs is going to end up

873
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 6: with better numbers, the hyperbole. Diggs is going to end

874
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 6: up with better numbers. Do you think Diggs has had

875
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl season? Because I don't, But.

876
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: I just think I think the types of catches Booty,

877
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: Like you said, ten touchdowns, that's pretty good, Sure, pretty good.

878
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 6: You know it's pretty.

879
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: Good, comeback player of the year, breakout.

880
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 6: I'm justum, I just find it amazing that you find

881
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 6: a way like it's like three different things.

882
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: It's like, let's nitpick and get an argument.

883
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 7: Can good?

884
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, if.

885
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: We're arguing, if he's like, if we're I've been incredibly

886
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 6: impressed with his performance this year, more so off the field. Yeah,

887
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 6: I'm incredibly impressed with his maturity that he's shown this year.

888
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: So do you want his seventeen game pace since now.

889
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 6: I'm going to say, fifty two catches for nine hundred

890
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 6: and twenty yards in ten and a half touchdowns.

891
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 4: Very close, forty eight point nine catches, So forty nine

892
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: catches close, nine hundred and sixteen yards and ten and

893
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 4: a half.

894
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: But he's picked up the pace. His pace is getting fast.

895
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, he opened the season with one hundred yards.

896
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 6: I was going to say, it's not like you can

897
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 6: say those things, but it's really not accurate.

898
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: So all right, he's been very good.

899
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 6: He's been extremely valuable.

900
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: PFW headlines and when after a good offensive game may

901
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: digs booty.

902
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, you like that? Like that better than like

903
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: pop Star. I feel like he reminds me more of

904
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 4: like a Brandon LaFell than Chris Hogan. Like his style

905
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: was more he's he's a pure x, like he's playing

906
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: on the outside and he's playing the X spot. Hogan

907
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: was like a movable piece, like they wud move him

908
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: inside to move him outside.

909
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 5: I get the Hogan thing. It was he was talking

910
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 5: about pop Douglas.

911
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 6: I messed, yeah, that one mess that.

912
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: I also don't really understand that one either.

913
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: He used to just run deep balls and no one

914
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: would cover it.

915
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: I know I.

916
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 6: Used to say he wore a cloak of invisibility, but

917
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 6: that's what he was talking about with Pop Douglas on

918
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 6: that play.

919
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: Very different players, yes, but not style.

920
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 4: It's just talking about getting open.

921
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 6: We're not talking about styles. Set the whole up because

922
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 6: you have to have an identity for every one of these.

923
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 6: Like I don't care what the name of the plays

924
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 6: that Josh McDaniels was.

925
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 4: I I just loved the mix of of how.

926
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 6: It got the the Browns off like off balance in well,

927
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 6: like he's changing directions.

928
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: They are not easy to defend.

929
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 7: We've come full circle for it finally happened.

930
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: We agree, Did we find it?

931
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Did we unlock anything with all these toss plays and

932
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: getting to the outside, I.

933
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: Think a little bit.

934
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: I think, uh, you know with Travon Henderson definitely looks

935
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 4: more comfortable getting the ball outside and playing in space,

936
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: which I think we all could have seen coming. But

937
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: we talked about this a little bit the other week,

938
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: like it's not like the schemes are all that different.

939
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: They just were starting to toss it to him instead

940
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: of just handing it off to him and trying to

941
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: get him to get the corner himself. They were just

942
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: kind of making it easier for him to.

943
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: Get out there.

944
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: And then you hope that as teams start to overplay

945
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 4: the tosses, now the stuff up the middle will open

946
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: up a little bit, and that's how you can scheme

947
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 4: it up. I also thought that he had a really

948
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 4: good blitz pick up in this game on one of

949
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 4: mac Collins's catches, which was a sign of growth too. Obviously,

950
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: the fumbles, you know, two steps forward, one step back

951
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: there at the end, but I thought that this was

952
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: from a usage usage standpoint, it was highly encouraging, like

953
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: this is how they probably should have been using him

954
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: from the start, and now that they found this out,

955
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 4: hopefully that leads to more results down you know, down

956
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 4: the line here, and then hopefully they can get him

957
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: a little bit more involved in the passing game too,

958
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: and and you know, do that sort of thing as well.

959
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: But I definitely think that they found a little bit

960
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: of something and now it's just another thing that defenses

961
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: are going to have to plan for and have to

962
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: you know, in their heads as well, so they had

963
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: a couple of you know, play action tosses off the

964
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: toss action that they got open receivers off of, so

965
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: all of it is was kind of encouraging.

966
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: All Right, We've got a lot to talk about, and

967
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure our listeners want to get in on the conversations.

968
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: So let's open it up. A five five pass five

969
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com. Is

970
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: the email that's how you get in touch with us.

971
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 2: Let's start with the phone bank. We'll start with Anthony

972
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: and Seattle. What's up, Anthony, Anthony? Anthony, Yeah.

973
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 10: First, so I'm like, oh.

974
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on you, brit no problem.

975
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 10: Hey, listen, I got I got two things today and

976
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 10: then I'll hang up and listen. So I'll get these these.

977
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 10: I got one for uh, one thing for Evan, and

978
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 10: then uh, Paul, I've got one item for submission for

979
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 10: review into a Carillo's School of Clock Management. Though it

980
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 10: might be more of a situational football you might have

981
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 10: to transfer me to the situational football department.

982
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: It's one of the same with Paul. Yeah, go ahead,

983
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: he can hear.

984
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 10: Hey, hen, Nicky, important thing you had talked about it

985
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 10: a while back. On catch twenty two, and you kind

986
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 10: of confirmed what I kind of felt like I was seeing.

987
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 10: But you had talked about, you know, Drake May he

988
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 10: had been sacked twelve times at the time, and it

989
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 10: was like for like forty eight yards, and I go, yeah,

990
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 10: that seems about right, because with this new found learned

991
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 10: ability to not drift in the pocket if he goes

992
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 10: right or you know, left or right, he's escaping to throw,

993
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 10: but he's learned to step into the pocket and then

994
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 10: he's either stepping in and deliver a pass or he's

995
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 10: taken off and he's going forward. And when neither of

996
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 10: those is an option, when he gets backed, he's getting

997
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 10: stack going forward. And then so I'm seeing a lot

998
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 10: of like second and thirteen, second and fourteen, and then

999
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 10: you know, with the offense that they've been playing, they

1000
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 10: convert those within the next couple So that's the speaking

1001
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 10: big thing. How you can have one of the most

1002
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 10: stacked quarterbacks and still have one of the best offenses

1003
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 10: in football. And I had Paul. So this one, I'm

1004
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 10: gonna be quick. Okay, I know the game was over, Okay,

1005
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 10: but as a football fan, if the Patriots did this,

1006
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 10: ib Ira and I know you're gonna know where I'm

1007
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 10: going with this. Cleveland is down to thirty to seven.

1008
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 10: They go down the field and you get a touchdown,

1009
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 10: you get a score to make it a two score game,

1010
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 10: except you don't make it a two score game because

1011
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 10: for some reason you want to go for two to

1012
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 10: make it fifteen instead of just taking your extra point

1013
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 10: and making a two score game. And ah, by the way,

1014
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 10: you recovered an on side kick, so you could have

1015
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 10: had the ball down two scores with the ball with

1016
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 10: a sliver of pope, I will.

1017
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 11: Hang up and listen.

1018
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: Thanks you.

1019
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 6: And then the on side kick didn't happen after the

1020
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 6: touchdown that they recovered.

1021
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 5: It was after the safety. But I agree with Anthony.

1022
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 6: They and I said it live like you have a

1023
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 6: chance to get within sixteen. Take it. I mean the

1024
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 6: game was over. He's right, Anthony. Everything Anthony said is

1025
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 6: one hundred percent right. And so the whole fourteen thing

1026
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 6: like that just I don't know if everybody was paying attention.

1027
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 6: They had a chance to kick an extra point and

1028
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 6: make it sixteen, just like Anthony said, which technically gives

1029
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 6: you two possessions, and you can do it if you

1030
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 6: miss the two point in you don't get anything out

1031
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 6: of the fifteen fifteen sixteen is really not a huge difference.

1032
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 6: Sixteen and seventeen is an enormous difference. So I don't

1033
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 6: really understand that. I hate the whole fourteen thing that

1034
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 6: everybody does. Now, the Jets just executed it perfectly and

1035
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: won a game with it. They went for two and

1036
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 6: the first one got it kicked the extra point one

1037
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 6: thirty nine thirty eight. I don't like it, but at

1038
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 6: least I understand I'm scoring a touchdown to get within

1039
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: a score. I'm going for two to try to get

1040
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 6: to within six. But I'm still within a score even

1041
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 6: if I miss, risking having to have an additional score.

1042
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 6: So I don't like it, but at least that makes

1043
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 6: logical sense. I'm only I'm getting within one score either

1044
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 6: way this and again, I know the game was over.

1045
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 6: You know, they're probably just working on two point plays

1046
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 6: at that point, trying to get some practice and whatever.

1047
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 6: But I think you should if you're planning on on

1048
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 6: side kick, you should play it out and try to

1049
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 6: do it that way. But just as a clarific you know, cleary, clarify, clarify,

1050
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 6: they did the on side kick after the touchdown and

1051
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 6: didn't get it. It was after the safety, after the

1052
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 6: Henderson fumble. They got a safety and then they did

1053
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 6: a free kick. That's when they got the on side kick.

1054
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: That's when they recovered. And evidently Mike Mike not happy

1055
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 6: with Austin Hooper on that play based on yeah, based

1056
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 6: on his comments best on Mike's comments about the on

1057
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 6: side kick recovery, he did not call Hooper out individually.

1058
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: But that's the guy who.

1059
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: Because usually when it when they they bounce it like

1060
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: that in the air, you need to go get the ball,

1061
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: you know what when it bounces.

1062
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: Like you don't.

1063
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 4: You got to hit somebody because you got to go

1064
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: get the ball. Whereas like sometimes they just like go

1065
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: down the line and pick a guy and just kick

1066
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: it right at him and hopefully it bounces off of

1067
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: them and like that. But that's when you like wait

1068
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: on it like a grounder in baseball and you.

1069
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: Kind of attack it, right.

1070
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 4: But yeah, the the whole like extra point thing, it's

1071
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: just a philosophical We don't have to like get into

1072
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: the whole debate, but like is being down is it

1073
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: two scores? When you need to get too extra point?

1074
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 4: Two point conversions.

1075
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: I look at it. I look at it as clock,

1076
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: like the clock isn't running when you go for those

1077
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: two And I hear that argument, you know.

1078
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people look at Okay, you

1079
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: need two touchdowns and two point two point to get time, right,

1080
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 4: that's not truly a two score game.

1081
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 6: It is, but it is.

1082
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm possessed. I actually am on your side on this one.

1083
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: Right, because you can't possibly not be like the fourteen

1084
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 6: twenty can make. You can make an argument about it,

1085
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 6: but you you need to possess the ball twice to

1086
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 6: score sixteen points, yep, to score seventeen, you need to

1087
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 6: get it three times, right. I don't care what your

1088
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 6: extra points are. You need the ball three times. There's

1089
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 6: a difference there, there is, and it's not. I mean again,

1090
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 6: if Stefanski might have been looking at it, say I

1091
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 6: got a young quarterback making his fourth start, he could

1092
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 6: you know, well, we're going to play this out, we're

1093
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 6: going to use the two point conversion as practice. And

1094
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 6: if that was his rationale, I have no problem with it.

1095
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 6: But if you're actually trying to win the game, that

1096
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 6: makes no sense.

1097
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: What you did. Christians in la Hey Christian Christian.

1098
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh.

1099
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 12: Yes, I just want to quickly okay, and this is

1100
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 12: a big deal to me, is that do you guys

1101
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 12: realize what happened the other day? Do you guys realize

1102
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 12: that we please, it's not the best defense in the league.

1103
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: We didn't realize that. No, I didn't know what's going

1104
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 2: on with your phone?

1105
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: D a good defense and play good offense?

1106
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: What are you doing talk into the phone? Well, okay,

1107
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: get us off speaker.

1108
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 7: His heart's not in it today.

1109
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 6: I don't think it's like the guy that we're.

1110
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: Gonna move on.

1111
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 6: Into the sports Hub. Last week, it is like, I'm

1112
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 6: from Cleveland. I don't know like Miles Garrett He's he's right, thanks,

1113
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 6: you need.

1114
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: To be from Cleveland. Oh no, I actually had somebody

1115
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: on the block, you know, uh that said, you know,

1116
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is is one of the best players. And

1117
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: you know I've been saying that all week. I'm like, oh,

1118
00:50:52,480 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: you're the one that that's been saying that. Kirk's in Delaware, Hey, Kirk, Kirk.

1119
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: These people aren't ready today. What's going on? Kirk?

1120
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not happy.

1121
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 4: I think he'd be much happier with a five game

1122
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: I think it's my fault, all right.

1123
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: Kirk's gone, Kirk's gone. I can't, we can't. We can't

1124
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: have these pre snap penalties fall start. These are pre

1125
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: snap penalties unaccepted. That's on the player. That's on the player.

1126
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: Randall's in Texas, Hey Randall.

1127
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 13: What's going on? Boys?

1128
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 6: That's how you do it? Good, solid five yard Ronnie

1129
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 6: was ready to go.

1130
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: Mess with don't mess with Texas.

1131
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 13: I was gonna say, isn't it crazy how we have

1132
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 13: Margus Jones pace for three years now or three more

1133
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 13: years now and now? It was kind of like, yes, too,

1134
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 13: elite quarters, is it weird to say that we have

1135
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 13: wouldn't might be better than Christian Gonzalez a little bit

1136
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 13: or just as good as him. Honestly, I feel like

1137
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 13: you've been playing good. He's really good, really really good.

1138
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 13: No one's talking about them, but well the.

1139
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: Team definitely noticed. Yeah.

1140
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he's seen a lot of action. I

1141
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 9: mean I think that's just we talk about him every week. Yeah,

1142
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 9: being part of being on the slot, like Paul said,

1143
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 9: I mean, he's just he's involved in so much.

1144
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1145
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a huge mental and physical undertaking playing in there.

1146
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1147
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, in the trio of Marcus, Donzo and Davis is

1148
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 13: like pretty underrage and honestly, all right, thanks Randall.

1149
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 4: I know it's underrated. I think a lot of people

1150
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: know it's a really good cornerback trio and just Stat's

1151
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 4: kind of buried out. They don't throw at him, like

1152
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: they really don't throw at Davis or Gonzo all that much.

1153
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: You know, Gonzo was targeted more in this game and

1154
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 4: kind of dominated and looked like his old self, which

1155
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: was a really good sign, I thought, and laughing at

1156
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy, who you know.

1157
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 6: What was that about? Which thinks it is good?

1158
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: Like do you think you're gonna beat me with that?

1159
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: Come on?

1160
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 6: This was like what I was talking about, Like I

1161
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 6: I want to see some of some of this stuff,

1162
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 6: and what they've done has been impressive, I don't know

1163
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 6: how difficult, you know. I want to say they've faced

1164
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 6: the thirty fourth, thirty third, thirty second, and thirty first

1165
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 6: and twenty ninth rated passers in football or something like that.

1166
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 6: I mean they've played they've played eight games, and they've

1167
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 6: played five of the most wretched passing attacks in football

1168
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 6: that you that you could see, you know, like Sunday,

1169
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 6: like I agree with you guys. You got we all

1170
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 6: We talked about Gonzalez a little bit on the in

1171
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 6: the postgame show, and I kind of, you know, I

1172
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 6: wasn't as effusive in my praise because he's locking up

1173
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 6: Jerome Forde like what like they have not like this

1174
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 6: is not Gonzalez's fault. Again, just like I don't blame

1175
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 6: Drake may for completing seventy plus percent of his passes

1176
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 6: every week, not his fault. They're dominating. But who are

1177
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 6: they dominating? Sure, that's that'd been.

1178
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 3: My only Judy's a good player, but they don't have

1179
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: a quarterback.

1180
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 6: Not this year. He hasn't been a good player, and

1181
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 6: they doesn't the quarterbacks.

1182
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that might be why.

1183
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 9: Like by me, almost what stood out most of Gonzalez

1184
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 9: was just how well he came up and tackled in

1185
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 9: like his physicality and not a lot of yards And

1186
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 9: you know, those are the things to me impresses me

1187
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 9: with that. Sure, I just those things. In the first

1188
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 9: few weeks he was back, it seemed a little slow

1189
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 9: to click. It seemed like the tackles were a little

1190
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 9: bit more unsure or later or broken, and that that

1191
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 9: was more to me than even the coverage, Like, I

1192
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 9: just it's that's the Gonzales I remember playing.

1193
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 7: At a high level.

1194
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he's like I think he's

1195
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: one hundred percent confident now, Like.

1196
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 6: The Gonzales play against Buffalo. To me is that it's

1197
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 6: vintage and zounds like the one to knock away the

1198
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 6: pastor she care, that's what I could play. You know,

1199
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 6: she cares a pretty good player. I don't not not

1200
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl or anything like that.

1201
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: He's not.

1202
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boody, I took the words out of my than well,

1203
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: you know part of it for me.

1204
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 6: Those twos you just know, you see the re run

1205
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 6: like I like them, So I looked it up. Either way,

1206
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 6: he's twenty sixth in yards. He's not in the top

1207
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 6: fifty in receptions.

1208
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 15: This thing was not with.

1209
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 9: Gonzo though, that I like about some of the physicality

1210
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 9: showed us, just like the style that these guys play

1211
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 9: with under Vrabel. I don't necessarily know Gonzalez is totally

1212
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 9: that guy. If he's totally that kind of fiery, aggressive

1213
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 9: personality player, I think he plays.

1214
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 6: That's why I like that.

1215
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 2: But I like, like, I like a little of the physicality.

1216
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 7: That's the solid tackling.

1217
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 9: I think those are things that will appeal to Vrabel

1218
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 9: and say this is you know, look, he's never going

1219
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 9: to be that aggressive in your face scream, but he

1220
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 9: can play tough and physicals.

1221
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 5: Had to come over and like drag him away.

1222
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 14: I like that.

1223
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like stuff to calm down. And they're

1224
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: running so much.

1225
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 4: You know, they run so much zone in this system,

1226
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: and I don't care for it necessarily, but it's the

1227
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 4: defense that they're running, and they run a lot of

1228
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 4: this guy's zone. So him finding ways to make plays

1229
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: in zone, which has not always been his specialty, but

1230
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: also just it's just not his forte and uh, you know,

1231
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: I thought the one that he came up and and

1232
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 4: not the guy knocked the ball out of the guy's hands,

1233
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 4: you know, playing the flat there, it was it was

1234
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 4: a really good play, you know, kind of just took

1235
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: away the deeper one, kind of like similar to the

1236
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: one we talked about with Marcus Jones before.

1237
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 6: Those guys were good Sunday.

1238
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that those types of plays, that's that's good

1239
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: to see.

1240
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 4: But are they again were I think it was like

1241
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 4: seventy percent zone in this game, and like, look, you're

1242
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: facing a young quarterback.

1243
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 6: You're trying to spin the dial on. Well, I'm not

1244
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 6: taking any points away from them. Yeah, I mean I

1245
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 6: want to see it against some of the better teams,

1246
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 6: but I'm not going to take points away because they're

1247
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 6: dominating against you know, pedestrian passing games.

1248
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: I just keep going back to the Buffalo game.

1249
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 4: Sorry, that's all right, Like they played forty percent man

1250
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 4: in Buffalo, and they challenge the Bills receivers in man

1251
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 4: to man with Gonzo back, and like when they face

1252
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: good quarterbacks, I still think they're going to go to that,

1253
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 4: and that makes me feel a little bit better. The

1254
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, it's been a lot of zone

1255
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: and they're kind of just looking at these young quarterbacks like,

1256
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: are you going to read it out? Are you going

1257
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 4: to find the openings? Are you going to consistently hit

1258
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: the windows? Like we have confidence that you're not.

1259
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 9: I just want to ask you what you thought of

1260
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 9: And I read the next gen pressure rates for the defense,

1261
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 9: which was pretty high.

1262
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so I'm kind of stuck.

1263
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 9: I'd be interested to see a what you saw on

1264
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 9: how PFF created it out, But like it just seems

1265
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 9: to me like they're ranking highly in pressure, but it's

1266
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 9: not really affecting the quarterback.

1267
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: So I think in this game they tried to put

1268
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: him in the trash compactor because he's five eleven and

1269
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: can't see over the line of scrimmage. So they were

1270
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: trying to just kind of push the pocket and suffocate

1271
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: the pocket around him. And what ended up happening was

1272
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 4: is that you can see him back there, and he

1273
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: ended up having to get out of the pocket because

1274
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: he literally couldn't see over the line of scrimmage.

1275
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 6: And that's what cost them an opportunity to make a

1276
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 6: big play after the interception the pass to Isaiah Bond. Yeah,

1277
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 6: he shouldn't have had to leave the pocket on that play.

1278
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 6: He should have just thrown it, but he probably couldn't see.

1279
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1280
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they.

1281
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: You know, Chase on bar More, Williams Tonga all day long.

1282
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: They're just bul rushing. They're just speed to power press

1283
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: the pocket and make him see over it, and he's

1284
00:57:58,840 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: five foot eleven.

1285
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: Anthony writes in on the podcast at Patriots dot Com email,

1286
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels is a godsend. He has so many wrinkles

1287
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: off the same formation. He was just as important to

1288
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: hire as Vrabel Do we agree. I don't know. It's

1289
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: so the head coach is the head coach.

1290
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 4: You're scratching two different inches there, like the head coaches

1291
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 4: setting culture, setting tone, you know, making sure everything's orchestrated

1292
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 4: from a CEO type level, like McDaniels is. I think

1293
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 4: what is making McDaniels thrive, other than having Drake may,

1294
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: which is obviously huge, is that like he just has

1295
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: to go in the lab, like he's not being asked

1296
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: to do any of the you know, higher level head

1297
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: coaching responsibilities or anything like that. He's just game planning

1298
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 4: and drawn up plays and doing what he does best.

1299
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: So without one, you can't really have the other because

1300
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 4: then there'd be more on mcdaniels's play.

1301
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 9: I mean along those lines, you know, Christian Barmore didn't

1302
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 9: play in the first quarter, Mike Rabel, that's something the

1303
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 9: head coach has to do. Any feelings on that, were

1304
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 9: you guys surprised by Barmore? Seems like Mike Rabel is,

1305
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 9: we dealt with it.

1306
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 7: We're moving on. It's in the past.

1307
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 9: But those are the kind of things you're Radar is

1308
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 9: always up up for, and you know with Barmore, who's

1309
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 9: had some issues in the past.

1310
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1311
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we still don't know what happens.

1312
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 6: I'd like to have known someone.

1313
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 4: I asked him, but yeah, he didn't want to talk.

1314
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we tried. So by after the game,

1315
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: we're talking about Rabel or Barmore. Brabel, oh, that one

1316
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 4: I can't speak to. But Barmore declined to talk to reporters.

1317
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: I mean, so they've probably made an agreement. We're going

1318
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: to keep it internal. But the fact that it was

1319
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: a one quarter suspension probably speaks to the severity of it. Yeah,

1320
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: you know, so it's probably more of a team rules

1321
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: type of thing.

1322
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 9: I think that's yeah, yeah, that's just the kind of

1323
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 9: stuff though that Josh McDaniels doesn't have to worry about it.

1324
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 4: The offensive coordinator, he you know, well, I just think

1325
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: it's you know, that one and you know, along those

1326
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 4: same lines like Kean White being a healthy scratch was

1327
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 4: definitely eyebrow raising, especially given the trade deadline.

1328
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: Team full of guys and things are going to happen

1329
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: throughout the year, and that's part of the questions an

1330
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: owner has to ask, you know, any head coach that

1331
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: they're candidate. It's not the ex's and o's all these

1332
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: most of these coaches, they know the ex's and o's,

1333
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: it's what do you do, how do you discipline? What's

1334
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: your culture? What do you do at three o'clock when

1335
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: you get that phone call? How do you deal with that?

1336
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: You know, that's just as important for an owner to

1337
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: know about their head coach. Tyler from Ludlow. I know

1338
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: the old timers like Fred and Paul have gotten questions

1339
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: in the past about when they knew Brady became Brady.

1340
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: Obviously it's too early to begin any real comparisons, but

1341
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: does it feel like right now could be that moment

1342
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: for Drake? We can revisit this when he wins six

1343
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, but what he is doing now feels real special.

1344
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: It is really, do we know that this guy's going

1345
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: to be great right now?

1346
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 6: I don't. But what that doesn't mean that what he's

1347
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 6: doing isn't special, Like I don't think that it's just

1348
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 6: you know, a fluke to have, like, really seven consecutive games.

1349
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 6: I would say the Pittsburgh game wasn't great. Statistically it was,

1350
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 6: but it wasn't great. But the other six games, like

1351
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 6: you'd be hard for you could count on one hand,

1352
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 6: the amount, Oh Drake, what are you doing on that one?

1353
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 6: You know, there's not too many mistakes, but you need

1354
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 6: the spots, you need the moments.

1355
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I flashing back a little bit to

1356
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 9: just the early days of Brady.

1357
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 7: Being like is he really special?

1358
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 9: Like you know, like you just you can't quite believe it,

1359
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 9: and like part of me doesn't want to jinx Drake

1360
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 9: and you know, be like this is it. But at

1361
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 9: the same time, like, you know, has a guy ever

1362
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 9: put a stretch together like this and then just fallen

1363
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 9: completely back to earth and he's just an average, below

1364
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 9: average quarterback that's hard to.

1365
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 6: Stretch statistically like this, I would probably say no, But

1366
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 6: I've seen guys play well for you know, whole seasons

1367
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 6: and then not so well.

1368
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that what's special about him is like

1369
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 4: everything is on the menu. And if you're a coordinator

1370
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: that you know, like Josh is really good at his job.

1371
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 4: Like there's so many different things that you can do

1372
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 4: to leverage Drake may against defenses that just make for

1373
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 4: easy offense. Like you know, you can't run bootlegs with

1374
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 4: a stationary pocket passer. You can't run you know, read

1375
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: options and RPOs and things like that. You can't run

1376
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 4: the offense as much out of the gun because he's

1377
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 4: his own checkdown. So if you have to get into

1378
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 4: a situation where there's nobody open downfield, well now he

1379
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: can take off and he can scramble for a checkdown

1380
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: instead of having to find a checkdown. So now you

1381
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: almost like don't even need to program a check down

1382
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 4: into the offense. So now you can put five guys

1383
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: deep in the pattern and like the way that that

1384
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 4: just like stresses defenses. Defenses are not built to cover

1385
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 4: five downfield eligibles, Like they're not really built that way structurally.

1386
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 4: Usually you have level to the concepts and you have

1387
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: checkdowns that are kind of safety valves in the flats

1388
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 4: that you can kind of forget about.

1389
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1390
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 4: Now they can really stress the team down the field

1391
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: because he's so mobile, And like, this is why these

1392
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: types of quarterbacks are taking over the NFL is because

1393
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 4: it's just so difficult to defend these types of guys.

1394
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: So I don't know how that like, yeah, he might

1395
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 4: not be this consistent for this long of a stretch

1396
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 4: like he has been here, but his talent isn't going

1397
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: to just evaporate. Nope, No, so like that that's always

1398
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 4: going to be.

1399
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 7: There's just injuries. That's the only real concern that you know, injury.

1400
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 9: I mean it's kind of like Joe Burrow just is

1401
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 9: never you know, he's always kind of fighting something.

1402
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 7: And if Drake were to get hurt and lose some

1403
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 7: of that mobility, that that.

1404
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 9: But otherwise it's hard to come up with a reason

1405
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 9: why he can't play at a high level. Maybe not

1406
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 9: ridiculous like as he's been, but he looks.

1407
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 7: Elite to me.

1408
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: Travis and West Virginia. Fred. The lobe of your brain

1409
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: that tells you Booty is a pro bowler must be

1410
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: the same lobe that tells you pat Naguawama is an

1411
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: interesting caller, Patty getting trapped.

1412
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 5: Patty has gotten a lot of strange.

1413
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, calls in, loves the team. That's some questions. I

1414
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know.

1415
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's tough.

1416
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: All right, back to the phones eight five hundred. Let's see,

1417
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,479
Speaker 2: we'll go to uh Joe and Pennsylvania. Hey, Joe, Yojo, Hey.

1418
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 16: Guys love the show.

1419
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 17: And I'll just take it back on some of the

1420
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 17: Josh McDaniels talk. And here's just some scenarios for you. Uh,

1421
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 17: what if Josh McDaniels if he never left after twenty one?

1422
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 17: Do you think still think Bill still be would still

1423
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 17: be here? And maybe even mac Jones A good Questionnios.

1424
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 17: The other two scenarios, what if Dre what if Gerrod

1425
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 17: Mayo hired Josh? And then also to do you think

1426
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 17: do you think Drake is an MVP candidate right now

1427
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 17: without Josh McDaniels, say if they hired somebody else.

1428
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'd have to know who that's somebody else is. Yeah,

1429
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: it's one of good.

1430
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do think that. I think he's because I

1431
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 6: give more of the credit to the player, thanks Joe,

1432
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 6: than anybody else. It doesn't mean I don't think Josh

1433
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 6: mc chamons is doing a good job. Right, And I

1434
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 6: just told you I thought Sunday was his best masterclass.

1435
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 6: I thought that drive at the beginning of the third

1436
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 6: quarter had to have at least something to do with

1437
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 6: going in at halftime and talking about some different things

1438
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 6: they were.

1439
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: Going to do, like he was doing Ted talk on

1440
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: the sideline.

1441
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 6: That drive was so effective it looked like the opponent's

1442
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 6: drive against the Patriots on the first drive every game.

1443
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but his first question was a good one.

1444
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 5: It's like, did I take it a little too far?

1445
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: How would history be different if, instead of Patricia and

1446
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: Judge being you know, elevated to the offense Josh McDaniel

1447
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 2: stayed with Matt Jones for his second year.

1448
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 6: That's an interest to his teams are very talent devoid.

1449
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 9: I think they probably would have been better, but not

1450
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 9: good enough to climb out of the basement.

1451
01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 7: It's kind of Evans thing.

1452
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 9: I think it would get you into the middle of

1453
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 9: the draft, but it wouldn't get you, Drake May, it

1454
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 9: wouldn't catch you.

1455
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: I just remember, like all the turmoil that having Patricia

1456
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: as offensive coiner led to mac Jones asking questions being

1457
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: put in the doghouse. Balachic wouldn't even mention this.

1458
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 5: Dame Bill would still be here. Do you think that

1459
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 5: regime would still be intact?

1460
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 6: No, to me is the question.

1461
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: I think Bill's problem was roster.

1462
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 6: I don't like that.

1463
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the decisions with the coordinators and stuff

1464
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 4: was bad too, But the issue that I and I,

1465
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 4: you know, something like it was kind of a cautionary tale.

1466
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: And you know, Elliot Wolf was here for twenty one too,

1467
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 4: so you kind of hope that he learns from it.

1468
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 4: They didn't really add in twenty two, Like they they

1469
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 4: took this troup the big free agency hall in twenty

1470
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 4: one DeVante Parker, and then they went into twenty two

1471
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 4: with all this momentum coming off a ten win season,

1472
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 4: and they kind of stayed pat and then plateaued as

1473
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 4: a team in twenty one. So like next offseason, I'm

1474
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 4: not saying that they have to go out and spend

1475
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: three hundred million dollars again, but you have to go

1476
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 4: out and get a piece for.

1477
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: Drake May to take this to keep adding to this offense, Like.

1478
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: You can't just be complacent, and I think Bill was complacent,

1479
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of it, you know, I

1480
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 4: know Paul's been big on this is that he.

1481
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 3: Just didn't believe in it.

1482
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 4: Like I genuinely don't think that he believed that receivers

1483
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 4: and the shiny toys and all that stuff was really

1484
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 4: that valuable in the grand scheme of it all. But

1485
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 4: that was kind of their undoing, was how they handled

1486
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 4: that position and how they handled that room.

1487
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 9: I was just say, Jacobe Meers leaves him leaving twenty two,

1488
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 9: you bring into Vante Parker, that was kind of it, right.

1489
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 6: So I would even you know, everything I was saying

1490
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 6: about the roster is I would absolutely agree.

1491
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: With comestad a specialty.

1492
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 6: But yeah, but I would even just take it a

1493
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 6: step further. I think Evan's right. I think that it

1494
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 6: probably would have unfolded in a similar fashion. I think

1495
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 6: we would have come to the conclusion that make mac

1496
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 6: Jones wasn't talented enough to lift others around him, and

1497
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 6: they weren't as good. It's the Andy thing. They were

1498
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 6: a ten win team. They won ten games, but they

1499
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 6: weren't a ten win team in twenty one. That in

1500
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 6: my view, was proven over the last six games when

1501
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 6: they played some good teams and lost them all and

1502
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 6: got boat raced in the playoffs. I don't think that

1503
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 6: they were good enough to have Bill overcome his personal mistakes.

1504
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,960
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Speaker 4: play it right.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, hello, goode are you? Are you you great?

1546
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 4: Eight weeks and Mike has anything about this team or

1547
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 4: where you're at exceeded your expectations.

1548
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 20: I don't think that that's fair, and essers necessarily say

1549
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 20: exceeded any expectations.

1550
01:10:59,080 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 1: Try not to.

1551
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 20: Don't have expectations, right, We just have things that we

1552
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 20: want to try to focus on and improve on. You know,

1553
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 20: I don't think that they I think that they are

1554
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 20: believe in themselves and that they believe that they're going

1555
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 20: to make some plays, and that they're you know, not really.

1556
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: Panicking, and.

1557
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 20: Signs of complimentary football and signs of preparation, and then

1558
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 20: some things that we have to continue to correct. And

1559
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 20: I think that that's that's really good. When you can

1560
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 20: find ways to win and end the game with the

1561
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 20: football in your hand and kneeling on it. Those are

1562
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 20: things that I think good teams find a way to do.

1563
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 20: We just have to, you know, play a little better

1564
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 20: and keep improving. And you know, through this stretch here

1565
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 20: in the middle middle of the season where guys are

1566
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 20: banged up and there's you know, weeks kind of start

1567
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 20: to you know, the days they kind of really just

1568
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 20: start to be similar, and I like the consistency of it.

1569
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 20: I just don't want guys to to get you know, flat,

1570
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 20: or you know, some of these veteran guys that we

1571
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 20: got to be conscious of getting their.

1572
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: Bodies back in this time of year.

1573
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 7: I felt like you guys were.

1574
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 12: Able to get treveon going a little bit yesterday.

1575
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask you on some of those pitch.

1576
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 7: Plays, like those misdirection pitch plays.

1577
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: What makes those hard to defend? You think?

1578
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 4: And does it put doubt in the minds of defensive.

1579
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 14: Players if you're able to.

1580
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: Hit on one of those early in the game.

1581
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 20: Well, a lot of that is predicated on the defense

1582
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 20: that they're playing, and you know sometimes zone or corners

1583
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 20: that may roll up, or you know, pressure to a

1584
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 20: certain side, or you know, whatever it may be. So

1585
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 20: I felt like that was something that we could do

1586
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 20: this week, and it was good to hit a couple

1587
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 20: of those guys, did a nice job of getting out

1588
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 20: in front of them, and.

1589
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: You know we're able to hit some explosive gains that way.

1590
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 20: So it'll it'll be all kind of all separate, you know,

1591
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 20: each and every week based on what we need or

1592
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 20: what we feel like we can do.

1593
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 9: Well.

1594
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 20: Yesterday, I thought he you know, ran well out in space.

1595
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 20: I thought he made a good cut on one of

1596
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 20: those perimeter plays and continue to work and you know,

1597
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 20: got a couple of returns and I feel like we

1598
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 20: could be better there, but you know, being able to

1599
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 20: have his speed on the edge. And again we're going

1600
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 20: to try to use all the all the skilled players

1601
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 20: that we have. Just like yesterday, Max the leading receiver

1602
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 20: by by the numbers, so kind of each week, I

1603
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 20: think everybody's ready to go and try to take advantage

1604
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 20: of their opportunity and no different than the running backs like.

1605
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 21: Cample played yesterday and had three bottles with the future

1606
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 21: Hall of Fame or with your message.

1607
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: I mean I think it.

1608
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 20: You know, again, it's always a challenge when you play

1609
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 20: Miles Garrett and you know, it's hard to recreate that

1610
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 20: speed and that type of you know, what are we

1611
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 20: going to do on the show team?

1612
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: Like who do we have? Like if we did, they

1613
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't be on a show team.

1614
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 20: So there were some you know, good plays, good blocks patients,

1615
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 20: closing a space and did a good job in a

1616
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 20: run game. And then you know some plays that again

1617
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 20: he would like to have back, and yeah, I think

1618
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 20: that's what happens. But I think Will is going to

1619
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 20: keep practicing and improving and continuing to help us.

1620
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: Garrett came.

1621
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: For a lineup.

1622
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: Is there more too much of a runway?

1623
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that need to close the space a little bit,

1624
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: close the space and know that, hey, everybody else is

1625
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: on their own.

1626
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 20: We we have to commit to two players, uh to

1627
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 20: Ales as opposed to maybe hanging in there a little bit.

1628
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 20: So I think we will all learn from that and

1629
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 20: be able to uh to improve and understand. You know,

1630
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 20: he's seen those all the time, so he knows, you know,

1631
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 20: when he's coming off that that chip that we have

1632
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 20: to probably close the distance and know that he's ready

1633
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 20: to make another move or another couple moves were.

1634
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 7: Some things that said Josh McDaniels.

1635
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: A part is a play designer and a play caller.

1636
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 20: It seems like Drake has some really wide open targets

1637
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 20: and times and obviously Traygion getting going outside. Well, I

1638
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 20: think as a as a play designer, I'm I'm excited

1639
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 20: where everybody is offensively and kind of you know, being

1640
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 20: able to collaborate and come together, provide ideas, allow Josh

1641
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 20: and you know, to to kind of figure out what

1642
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 20: he wants to do each and every week, whether that's

1643
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 20: the run game or play pass, movement series, screens, drop

1644
01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 20: back passes.

1645
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: So I like where that's at. And then I think

1646
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: as far as you know the play calling.

1647
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 20: That that's you know, that's just a feel, that's an

1648
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 20: understanding of, you know, what we need, where they're at,

1649
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 20: what they're trying to do, trying to marry some concepts

1650
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 20: together with some of their run actions. And I think

1651
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 20: he's done done a great job, not only this year,

1652
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 20: but you know, being able to see what he's done

1653
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 20: in the past. That's always just a feel of, you know,

1654
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 20: we showed this, let's come back and you know, let's

1655
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 20: try to show them the same presentation but run a

1656
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 20: different play and then.

1657
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, some of the you know, guys free. I

1658
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 1: think just I don't know if that's the case.

1659
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 20: You know, I mean Pop was free because the quarterback

1660
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 20: extended and they.

1661
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: Didn't cover them.

1662
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 20: So we need to continue to do that and find

1663
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 20: ways to get the ball out on time, but then

1664
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 20: also a lot of quarterback to to extend. So to

1665
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 20: answer your question, I like where we are offensively, the collaboration,

1666
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 20: the communication, the efficiency to put the game plan together,

1667
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 20: and then Josh's ability to marry off different concepts that.

1668
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 3: We have wait and now great moments in.

1669
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 7: History.

1670
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 19: I did think it was funny when Bill's like, is

1671
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 19: that another one of your made up reports? Like, no, actually,

1672
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 19: that's from Adam Schefter, Like, oh, actually actually.

1673
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 6: Actually said that's not what he said. I ridge the

1674
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 6: tweet because that's not what I told him to say.

1675
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 6: Oh wait, I'm sorry.

1676
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 7: What what do the gap girls become?

1677
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 3: What if Bill talked like that?

1678
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 6: Can you imagine if you count and he just started

1679
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 6: talking with a whole different like syntax and are.

1680
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 5: The best team we faced all year.

1681
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 19: I just spent the season on Nantucket and I was

1682
01:17:58,920 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 19: preparing for the draft.

1683
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 6: Or he just like wolfed into like lack this big

1684
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 6: lax guy Laxboro. Yeah yeah, bro, Bro, we could get

1685
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,839
Speaker 6: to Sean Watson. Bro, we could get to Sean Watson.

1686
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 6: He's got the hair in the back a different, different

1687
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 6: accident for a different day of the week, because he

1688
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 6: has all these different you know, regular Bill on Monday,

1689
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 6: from get Laxborough on Wednesday, you get Valley Girl on.

1690
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 19: Friday, and people are so intimidated by him that no

1691
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 19: one would question it.

1692
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 4: They would all just be like, oh what, Bill Wonder,

1693
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 4: why are you.

1694
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 2: Talking like a valley girl right now? It would be celebrated.

1695
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 2: Oh and then everybody would start telling he adapts, how

1696
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 2: he adapts. That's another great moment from all right back here.

1697
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 2: Patriots on Filterday, five to five past five hundred is

1698
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: the hot line. It's Evan, It's Paul me, Deuce, Matt

1699
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: and the booth tucking Patriots talking like everybody else. Talk

1700
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: of the town.

1701
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 3: I don't like it, talk of the town. Stay on

1702
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,440
Speaker 3: that side, dan Orlovsky.

1703
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 4: Wow, you know, I'm not afraid you don't like the

1704
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 4: attention now, No, I just don't like that all these

1705
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 4: people are telling me that Drake may needed to sit

1706
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 4: for three years and now he's the MVP of the league.

1707
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 6: And.

1708
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I knew all along he was gonna

1709
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 4: be great like and we're back. If I remember correctly,

1710
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 4: he was supposed to be the next to Jordan Love.

1711
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 3: Was that correct? And he needed to sit and you

1712
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 3: had to be careful with him and his footwork just

1713
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 3: wasn't good.

1714
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 4: Bill, Well we're now, Oh yeah, where where's that one?

1715
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 2: Coach killer?

1716
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, coach killer, m VP of the league. Yeah, we

1717
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 4: can kill.

1718
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 6: This is the stuff I did not miss.

1719
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 3: I remember.

1720
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: But you don't like, you know, revisiting takes, Paul, No,

1721
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: why not.

1722
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 6: I don't mind revisiting takes. But I've told you a

1723
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 6: million times the best thing you do, like your Danie Olowski.

1724
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 6: I can sit here and tell you he shouldn't be

1725
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 6: playing right now, he should have sat two years, or

1726
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 6: I could tell you what is actually happening is that

1727
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 6: he's an MVP candidate. I would prefer that he does

1728
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 6: the latter, because that's what everybody sees. But we just

1729
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 6: want to kill the guy.

1730
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is this is.

1731
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm just teasing because he's an all twenty two competitors.

1732
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: I like Dan a lot.

1733
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:23,919
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just teasing Dan. I'm not ice breakdown

1734
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 4: of Drake May on draft night telling us how bad

1735
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 4: his footwork was.

1736
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is his lowest ranked quarterback.

1737
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 3: In the game in the a SEC. Thank you.

1738
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 7: That's close last week.

1739
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 18: What this is?

1740
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 6: This is what I'm saying. I don't have any problem

1741
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 6: keeping receipts that you guys know that. I have arguments

1742
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 6: going like seven at a time. Yeah, I keep receipts.

1743
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 7: I've said my piece, all right, listen.

1744
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: I thought Matt Patricia was going to be a fine

1745
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator.

1746
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 5: And really we just thank him.

1747
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: We should thank him, we should thank him. We've all

1748
01:20:59,160 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: been wrong.

1749
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 4: But the I just the ones about Drake May annoying

1750
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 4: me more than anything else because I just never understood

1751
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 4: what the hysteria was with him coming out.

1752
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: Now.

1753
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 4: I didn't see him playing like an MVP in year two.

1754
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 4: We were just talking about this during the break. Nobody

1755
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 4: could have seen this coming. But the hysteria that was

1756
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 4: made when he was coming out about his footwork, like

1757
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 4: he wasn't going to work on that for three hundred

1758
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 4: and sixty five days out of the year with NFL

1759
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 4: coaches and quarterback gurus and all these guys that get

1760
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks ready to play now, and he wasn't going

1761
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 4: to be able to fix his footwork like an athletic,

1762
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 4: big athletic kid like that like that, it was just

1763
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:40,879
Speaker 4: all of it was just draft fatigue.

1764
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: The same thing with Will Campbell in his arms, like

1765
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 3: it's every year.

1766
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 9: Can we do a real talk though, Like honestly, like

1767
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 9: after that Raiders game, I was a little shook.

1768
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie. Week one, I was a little

1769
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 7: bit shook, and I know that's a touchdown.

1770
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 6: His footwork was a mess, a complete and utter mess,

1771
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 6: a ton of touchdown pats. So to see where he

1772
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 6: is now compared to then, it's.

1773
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 9: Like they reset the they reset things, and it was

1774
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 9: like you weren't even thinking about last year. You're just

1775
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 9: thinking like, oh my god, like is this not going

1776
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 9: to work?

1777
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 6: And then I had a little talk with Freddy, you know,

1778
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 6: in the the week after the Raiders game, and I

1779
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 6: was like, you know, like if we have a whole

1780
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 6: season of this. Now, this is one game, so we

1781
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 6: were doing the reaction everything, but one game. You have

1782
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 6: a whole season of this. Is it off the table

1783
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 6: that you're at the end of the year, you're thinking

1784
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 6: do we have the right guy? Now you're like, is

1785
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 6: he going to win the MVP? Is he going to

1786
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 6: do what Mahomes did year two? First year is a

1787
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 6: starter and win the.

1788
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 2: M v P.

1789
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 6: That's on the table right.

1790
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 9: It's such a perfect example of like, we have a

1791
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 9: show to do this week, and that week we talked

1792
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 9: about it that we we talked about.

1793
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 5: Is he going to get some of these things fixed?

1794
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1795
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 7: Like motioning like it's like, what was that first game?

1796
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 5: Like, I don't even know is he going to win

1797
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 5: the MVP?

1798
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 4: I won't go down Josh thinking that that first game

1799
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 4: was something weird was going on where they said let's

1800
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 4: hold back and let's just kind of run our base

1801
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 4: training camp offense, and like there was none none of

1802
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 4: the bells and whistles, none of the moving pockets, none

1803
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 4: of the motions, none of the split back gun like

1804
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 4: none of it.

1805
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 3: It was just like traditional, like it was.

1806
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 6: They already ran the same offense today that Drake May

1807
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 6: would look the same running it as he did that day.

1808
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: I don't.

1809
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 3: So that's the question is like was the did they

1810
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 3: need the reps? Like did they need the time?

1811
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 4: I think so to develop the offense and that and

1812
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 4: that would be a feather in their cap, like they

1813
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 4: had showed some more patience. Then That's why I'm sitting

1814
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 4: here and there down the hall. But like that, that

1815
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 4: whole game like was just like bizarro land compared to

1816
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:38,919
Speaker 4: what the offense we're seeing.

1817
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 2: Right, no offense and defense, you know, with all the

1818
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: plitz you know, Uh Sam in North Carolina? What's up? Sam?

1819
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: Hey?

1820
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 15: I told everybody last year I've seen Drake was going

1821
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 15: to be a store like you would do things he

1822
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 15: made you do, like you could actually score again and

1823
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 15: stuff like that. So long like this year he's showing

1824
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 15: everybody will work Like nah, he turnover machine this net.

1825
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 14: I mean, the guy was pressed, you know.

1826
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 9: What I mean.

1827
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 14: But I feel like that Steelers game was the perfect

1828
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 14: teach tape. It's like you could be this if you

1829
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 14: don't beat yourself and turn the bowl of it. Yeah,

1830
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 14: and it's just it's worked out perfect. I mean that

1831
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,839
Speaker 14: little where we're at, what if what if the Stealers

1832
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 14: game was the Rams game back in the day, and

1833
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 14: they never lose again.

1834
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 2: Let its yeah, okay, what if the Steelers game was

1835
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: like that Rams game in oh one, That Rams game

1836
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 2: was later in the season, it was the Rams are.

1837
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 6: The best team in football.

1838
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: The Steelers, yeah, fading mediocre at best, but in terms

1839
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 2: of a turning point, well.

1840
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 6: In terms of them never losing again, I think it's

1841
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 6: in comparison it could be a turning point.

1842
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 5: Could they never lose again?

1843
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1844
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 5: I mean, and they never Fred likes to say fifteen

1845
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 5: and two is on the table.

1846
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 9: That's true, that's true. Give me the Tampa give me

1847
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 9: that Tampa game. Let's see what that looks like.

1848
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: What's the Falcons? First?

1849
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 6: All things about Tampa that I do you think? Do

1850
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 6: you think I think Tampa is in trouble right now?

1851
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 6: I think they're going the wrong way.

1852
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: The Baker Mayfield weirdly horrible against man coverage, like one

1853
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 4: of the worst quarterbacks in the league against man coverage.

1854
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 5: Black horrible the last two weeks period.

1855
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 4: And I know a couple of corners in New England

1856
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 4: that play pretty good man coverage.

1857
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: I think reportedly, Well, let's let's hope he stays in

1858
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: the league. Raheem's in Georgia. What's up, Raheem?

1859
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 11: What's up?

1860
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 15: Fellows?

1861
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: Hey? Mark? What about that?

1862
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 11: Marches Jovistinton?

1863
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1864
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 2: Good, love it.

1865
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 10: But in a way, why do the world in the.

1866
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 11: Media and everybody keep putting the Bills in the Super Bowl?

1867
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 14: Already?

1868
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 2: The Bills.

1869
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 6: Most in the media have the Bill's window closing. Led

1870
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 6: by Fred Kirsh, I've.

1871
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 11: Watched the show. They still got the Bill to win it. Chiefs,

1872
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 11: Lions and Eagles, and I don't know why they we

1873
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 11: don't beat them, and they keep acting like they sent

1874
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 11: them do some miracle and in of winning it.

1875
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: Well, let's face it. I mean, you know, right now,

1876
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: you'd still have to say the Bills and the Chiefs

1877
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 2: have to be favored in the AFC, right because they've

1878
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: got Josh Allen in Mahomes and the two degree and pedigree. Well,

1879
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a little bit of time, but it's growing, Rahiem.

1880
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people are now talking about Drake may

1881
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: as the MVP, and they're penciling in the Patriots for

1882
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So it's building. It's building. But I think

1883
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 2: that you have to admit the Bills and the Chiefs

1884
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 2: have earned the confidence. We're gaining confidence.

1885
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 11: Oh no, I guess so.

1886
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 2: All right, No, it's all right, you stick with it.

1887
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 2: Let's go Patriots and thanks him.

1888
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 6: I think it's wide open too, and not just because

1889
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 6: of the injuries, although that's a big, big part of it,

1890
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 6: but there's there's some struggles that are still going on,

1891
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 6: like they're just no one looks to me when I

1892
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 6: watch them play, like wow, that is an impressive Like,

1893
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 6: I don't know how we're gonna be able to deal

1894
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 6: with that. Like we're talking about Tampa in two weeks.

1895
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 6: Fred gets mad at us because we're dismissing the Jecko

1896
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 6: and Hyde Falcons. But the Tampa game, like I watched them,

1897
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 6: they just don't look that good to me. They've lost

1898
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 6: a million players. You know, Abuca is an excellent young receiver,

1899
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,879
Speaker 6: but he clearly playing hurt. And you got no Evans,

1900
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 6: no Godwin, no Irving. You know, I don't know this

1901
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 6: by came in a good time for them. Maybe they

1902
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 6: get some of these guys back. You know, I don't

1903
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 6: think Jalen mcmillens played all year. Has he yeut with

1904
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 6: that neck in joy? He still at the neck.

1905
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 5: So I just Tampa's good.

1906
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that they're not a good team, but

1907
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 6: do you look at them like you looked at Philadelphia

1908
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 6: last year, or Kansas City last year, or Buffalo last year.

1909
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 2: Troit?

1910
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this Detroit, thank you. You know, we're maybe

1911
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 5: the best at all.

1912
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 9: Kind of crossing the halfway point of the season now,

1913
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 9: right like week nine, like it's it feels like first

1914
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 9: half some teams were good, some teams are bad.

1915
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 7: Now it's the time to really prove who you really are.

1916
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 5: I think it could change.

1917
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: That's a good pine like the Chiefs.

1918
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 6: Everybody's already doing it with the Chiefs, and I'm not

1919
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 6: telling you they're wrong. Yeah, but ever since Worthy came back,

1920
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 6: they've been I believe twenty eight is the fewest amount

1921
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 6: of points they've scored in the four weeks that they

1922
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 6: they've had their compliment of players back, so the days

1923
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 6: of them not being able to move the ball seem

1924
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 6: like a distant memory. And last night was another night.

1925
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 6: If Kelsey could catch the ball, they you know, they

1926
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 6: might have put up forty. Yeah, like they you know,

1927
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 6: they get these interceptions off of passes that go right

1928
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 6: to guys hands yeah.

1929
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 4: I think you know, the Patriots, the Colts and the

1930
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 4: Seahawks are three the better teams in the league on paper,

1931
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 4: but they don't have any resume, Like there's no they

1932
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,799
Speaker 4: haven't proved themselves fully yet. And I don't think anybody

1933
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 4: but truly can believe in Daniel Jones. I don't think

1934
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 4: anybody is truly ready to believe in Seattle or New England,

1935
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 4: you know, just because of the youth.

1936
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 6: And she just saw it with Donald to last year

1937
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 6: where he put together a tremendous season and then when

1938
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 6: it mattered most, he felt like he lost the last

1939
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 6: game against Detroit, played awful, and then played even worse

1940
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 6: against the ROMs in the playoffs.

1941
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 7: But City Buffalo this weekend too.

1942
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that Colts team is the best team in

1943
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 3: the league.

1944
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 4: Like they're they're number one in DVA, they're number one

1945
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 4: in e PA, They're number one and everything.

1946
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 3: But it's Daniel Jones.

1947
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,639
Speaker 4: It's a roster that doesn't really feel like it's fully

1948
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 4: like it's playing over it's it's a huge at one,

1949
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 4: you know, if.

1950
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 9: They can stay at one and get the bye and

1951
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 9: have home field and not have to go outside and stuff,

1952
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 9: Like I'm.

1953
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 6: Trying to figure out what like their whole defense, Like, yeah,

1954
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 6: because they look active on defense, and I know the

1955
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 6: guys front. I love the guys up front, you know,

1956
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 6: like Buck Bunder and Stewart and those guys. My my

1957
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 6: edge rusher that I just discovered in the draft and

1958
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 6: then realized he was like the top half of the

1959
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 6: first round picked a lot two kid. He looks like

1960
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 6: he's pretty active. But I don't know how their secondary is.

1961
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 6: I don't know what anymore. Still they're playing, they're playing

1962
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 6: well the defensively, I don't think they're going.

1963
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: To go away.

1964
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, well Jonathan Taylor, I mean, and that's that beats

1965
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 6: why the offense runs through Taylor, And I don't think

1966
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 6: they were asking Jones to do what May's doing for

1967
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 6: the Patriots.

1968
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean.

1969
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 4: One of the weirdest coaching decisions in the NFL was

1970
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 4: the Bengals firing lou Anarumo and then he's going to

1971
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 4: Indie gets hired by the Colts as their defensive coordinator.

1972
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 3: Now they have one of the best.

1973
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 4: Defenses in football and the Bengals have one of the

1974
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 4: worst defenses in football. So Big Lou shout out to him.

1975
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 4: He's got the Colts defense playing really really well. But

1976
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 4: you know, back to the Patriots, Like another thing I

1977
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 4: was thinking about, there's a real chance, you know, they

1978
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 4: have that Assistant Coach of the Year award right now.

1979
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 3: I didn't has an assistant coach of the year.

1980
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: How do you figure that.

1981
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson won it last year? And now there's a

1982
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 4: real chance that if everything keeps going this way, the

1983
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 4: Patriots are going to have a nominee for Coach of

1984
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 4: the Year, Assistant Coach of the Year, and m v P,

1985
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 4: which is just.

1986
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 2: The coordinators are considered assistant coaches.

1987
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you'd have Rabel McDaniels may all being nominated

1988
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 4: and come back Player of the Year anyway, So like

1989
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 4: that that tells you, you know, just those three guys

1990
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 4: are really what's driving the bus. And the only other

1991
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 4: play caller that has it over McDaniels right now is

1992
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 4: Shane Stikeen. Like, if those two guys are the two

1993
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 4: best play callers in football, just send the Patriots.

1994
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: Send the team.

1995
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,839
Speaker 7: You know, I'm with you, but not the content team.

1996
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 2: Who would be right?

1997
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 6: Go ahead, you want to get to the phones.

1998
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to the I have a p U

1999
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: debate that I'll set up that's time dance in New Jersey.

2000
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 16: Hey Dan, I'll be there Sunday. Looking forward to it.

2001
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 16: My first May game. I'm doing a little different. I

2002
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 16: haven't been there in a couple of years, but I'm

2003
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 16: going to spend Sunday night up in Foxboro just wondering, like,

2004
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 16: what's the atmosphere like after the game? Obviously good when

2005
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 16: you win, but as far as restaurant Patriots Place, what's

2006
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 16: it like?

2007
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, it's happened after the game happen, is it? Yeah?

2008
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: I tell you.

2009
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 5: That's that's why I'm asking.

2010
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 4: I mean, if I make reservations for they usually don't

2011
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 4: let you on game days. Oh really, Yeah, reservations are

2012
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 4: tough to come by on game day. Okay, well maybe

2013
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 4: one I think one place, but I don't want to

2014
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 4: name it because I'm not sure, but one of the

2015
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 4: restaurants sometimes does on game days.

2016
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 3: But for the most part, it's.

2017
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: They just opened up a new place, a new restaurant

2018
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 2: where Skip Jacks used to be. Oh really, it's like

2019
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 2: ed Edna's or something like that, or Estella's or speakins

2020
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: with an E.

2021
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 7: Okay, check that out.

2022
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 3: And I wish I had more information for you. None

2023
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 3: of us have done that.

2024
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 2: You get a few pops.

2025
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 7: There's a bunch of places.

2026
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 6: There's a lot of restaurants in Patriot Place, and I

2027
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 6: would imagine you'd be able to get get aboute to

2028
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 6: eat in one of them after the game. But we're

2029
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 6: all working.

2030
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 2: It is a stella stella.

2031
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 9: Pick up some ammo at bass Pro, you know, make

2032
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 9: it a day fishing camotick at.

2033
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 16: Eleven Tommy cutlets hometown. So you'll be in the we'll

2034
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 16: be in the building, all right. Of course he probably

2035
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 16: will be uh not playing, but that's fine.

2036
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 2: Hopefully not sounds good. So are you staying? Are you

2037
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: staying at one of the hotels here at Patriot Place?

2038
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,520
Speaker 2: You stay in somewhere.

2039
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 16: Else fifteen minutes away?

2040
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Yeah, I would hang out, take your time,

2041
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 2: don't be in a rush to leave, and and have

2042
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: a good time after the game.

2043
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

2044
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 4: If you're going to do that and you're going to

2045
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 4: drive to the game, though, then you gotta go in

2046
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 4: the delay lot. You're gonna stay anyways, you might as well.

2047
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: They'll pay you. Yeah, Hey, you you guy as.

2048
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 6: Well go to the Yeah, check out.

2049
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 2: The delayed lot. Go to j Lettstadium dot com and

2050
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 2: check out the delayed lot.

2051
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 5: You can't leave now, you can't leave.

2052
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 2: You can't leave sooner than ninety minutes after the game.

2053
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 2: I think. But they'll pay you. I think they pay

2054
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 2: you like they give you fifty dollars certificate or something

2055
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 2: like that. I don't know.

2056
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 5: You won't receive your money.

2057
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 2: I forget, But okay, Dan, have a good time.

2058
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,480
Speaker 6: But on your deathband you receive.

2059
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: Yes, total conconsciousness. Uh. Cody's in Cincinnati. What's up, Cody?

2060
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 7: Cody?

2061
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I'm going what up?

2062
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 21: I'm talking in about last week's discussion for the Commanders. Obviously,

2063
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 21: I'm in Cincinnati. Bangles made the Super Bowl in twenty

2064
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 21: twenty one. I don't think any of the fans would

2065
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 21: have traded that for anything. Obviously, it sucks they got

2066
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 21: a later draft stick, but it did so much for

2067
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 21: the city and the fans and uh boost and the

2068
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 21: fan base. I just don't agree with going all the

2069
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 21: way and not winning for draft picks, that's all.

2070
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 3: But that's the Bengals, Cody.

2071
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

2072
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 3: The Bengals are a much different example than the one.

2073
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 6: I'm with you, even though he's on my side.

2074
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 3: I like the Bengals went back to the AFC Championship.

2075
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 6: Advocates, they bought him out and back to back years.

2076
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 6: Got ye, that's like they kind of Evan's posted the

2077
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 6: world like you get like, if we could just get

2078
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 6: our quarterback out for the season, we might get a.

2079
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 4: Tough extreme version the Patriots have done. And this is

2080
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 4: where we jumped the shark with this whole thing, because

2081
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 4: the Patriots did exactly what I would wanted them to do,

2082
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 4: because they played Drake May his rookie season. He got

2083
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 4: his feet in the NFL. He showed flashes of promise,

2084
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 4: but they.

2085
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 6: Still stunk, and so they did exactly what the Bengals did, right.

2086
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 6: They got Borrowed at one and then Chase at five.

2087
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 6: The Patriots got May at three, and you're at the

2088
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 6: fourth pick the next year, right, Yeah. And it took

2089
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 6: a tackle because they had to, But yeah, I mean,

2090
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 6: it would have been great if Jamar Chase was there again,

2091
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 6: if they had one of the receivers from the year before,

2092
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 6: maybe maybe the conversation would have been a little different.

2093
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 4: But now they have May, they have Campbell, they have

2094
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 4: building blocks that they have moving forward, just like the

2095
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 4: Bengals have burrow and chase the emails that.

2096
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 2: I have a lot of emails, tons of emails. Dan

2097
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: Whittaker has a public service announcement. This is Dan from

2098
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 2: the Patriots Fan Club of Columbus, Ohio. This team is exciting, winning,

2099
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 2: his fun, and it's better with other fans. Fans should

2100
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 2: go to fanclubs dot Patriots dot com and find their

2101
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 2: local registered fan club. That's a good reminder. Go to

2102
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: fanclubs dot Patriots dot com and look up in your

2103
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: area where there's a Patriots fan club and join it

2104
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 2: so that you can watch and celebrate the Patriots with

2105
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 2: other fans in your area. Well, there you go.

2106
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 7: It's the best. It is the best.

2107
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 2: Tampa is going to be a big big it is.

2108
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 6: And I'm told it is by far the most requested

2109
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,879
Speaker 6: a visitor for the Patriots tickets.

2110
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 4: I thought the stadium was good on Sunday. They thought

2111
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: there was some some good moments. But I think we

2112
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 4: could do better. I think this team's worth it. It's

2113
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 4: team's fun to watch. It's not you know, it's not

2114
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 4: Paul's thing. They don't win rock fights like they're they're

2115
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 4: explosive offense. They're throwing the ball down the field, MVP quarterback.

2116
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 6: They play an exciting brand of offense. They do, and

2117
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 6: they throw it down the field. They let's make this.

2118
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 5: They get to the edges you know in the running

2119
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:39,520
Speaker 5: game they'll.

2120
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 6: Look at to make big plays.

2121
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 3: They do make big plays, and they do.

2122
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 2: Longino from New Jersey, He says, you know what grinds

2123
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 2: my gears. I see people talking online about how bad

2124
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 2: the defense is and how they make these bad quarterbacks

2125
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 2: look elite in the beginning of the game, but refuse

2126
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 2: to talk about how they make it adjustments in the

2127
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 2: second half. No defense is perfect, especially in this league

2128
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 2: where it's very offense oriented. Seeing what they did in Buffalo,

2129
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm not expecting them to stop elite quarterbacks, but have

2130
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 2: enough place to slow them down and give our offense

2131
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 2: a chance. What are your thoughts about this? Are we

2132
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: making too much about the rough early starts and not

2133
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 2: enough about how they shut down teams afterwards.

2134
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 5: I think a lot has been made out of both

2135
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 5: of those.

2136
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that.

2137
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 4: You know, we have numbers now like DVOA that adjusts

2138
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 4: for opponent, and when you look at it, they're twenty

2139
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 4: eighth in the league right now on defense. In DVA

2140
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 4: and there's only one other team in the league that's

2141
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 4: that low that's also top ten in scoring defense, and

2142
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 4: that's the forty nine ers. So like, it's not typical

2143
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 4: that you are that low in terms of your defense

2144
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 4: efficiency but still are a top ten scoring defense and like,

2145
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 4: by the numbers of it, the damn should break eventually.

2146
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 4: And I think the difference that people are worried about

2147
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,440
Speaker 4: is when you face the better quarterbacks and the better offenses,

2148
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 4: like those are the ones that are gonna make the

2149
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 4: damn break. And I think that that's the concern. I

2150
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 4: don't think it's about the starts. I think all that

2151
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 4: is that this is who they are, Like they start slow,

2152
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 4: and then they make adjustments, and then they play good

2153
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 4: defense from that point on. But what happens when you

2154
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 4: face a quarterback that hits the throw to Isaiah Bond

2155
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 4: and doesn't miss that throw and they make another big play.

2156
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 4: What happens when you play a quarterback that can go

2157
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 4: four quarters with Drake May instead of two ish?

2158
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, Like I remember having a conversation last year,

2159
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 9: and I think I posed the question as like, are

2160
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 9: there really any good defenses anymore? Like there's always a

2161
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 9: couple and I think we're looking at like this defense

2162
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 9: and you want to see perfect stats across the board.

2163
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 9: But the conversation I remember having last year wasn't even

2164
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 9: about the Patriots, was just, you know, are you looking

2165
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 9: to make a defense that can just make that one

2166
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 9: or two key stops. And maybe they're you know, maybe

2167
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 9: they do have some general statistical flaws going into the

2168
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 9: game that they're not great stop in the run, or

2169
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 9: they're not great on down, or they.

2170
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: Don't you know.

2171
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 9: But like there's part of me that has like a

2172
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 9: little bit of not confidence, but hope that they have

2173
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 9: the pieces to kind of go. And yes, they will

2174
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 9: give up some plays, but I'm have growing confidence that

2175
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 9: they will make some plays too.

2176
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,799
Speaker 6: See. I would just look at the way they've played

2177
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,640
Speaker 6: so far this year. The offense has been responsible for

2178
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 6: the defense and stops until Sunday. I thought the defense

2179
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 6: for the first game that I thought just me anecdotally.

2180
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 6: Don't have any numbers here, but the defense turned the

2181
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 6: tide of the game on Sunday. They're the ones that

2182
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 6: went four straight, five straight possessions. I think they allowed

2183
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 6: one first down forty five yards, four punts in a

2184
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 6: missfield goal, and the missfield goal was after a turnover

2185
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 6: that had him in field.

2186
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 5: That was a pick three. Yeah, that was a pick three.

2187
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 6: They had a turnover that put him in field goal

2188
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 6: range and the Patriots shut it down.

2189
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 2: There.

2190
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 6: I thought the defense more than carried its weight and

2191
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 6: particular game, but the whole Like, yeah, is there anybody

2192
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 6: that's any good on defense anymore? I would argue and say,

2193
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 6: not many. I think, you know, I think there are

2194
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 6: a couple, but not many. But it's all relative. You're

2195
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 6: twenty eighth. No one else has a good defense either,

2196
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 6: but you're twenty eighth in this particular metric, you know.

2197
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 6: So you know, if you go like just strictly points scored,

2198
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 6: points allowed, your top five, right right?

2199
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think that's the reason why you know,

2200
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 4: it stands out to me so much with DVA because

2201
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,719
Speaker 4: you know, all the other stats that we have don't

2202
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 4: adjust for opponent. So like their fourth in scoring defense,

2203
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 4: there are eleven in EBA, but like all those things

2204
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 4: are not opponent adjusted, And then when you throw the

2205
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,560
Speaker 4: strength to schedule in there, they go from fourth in

2206
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 4: scoring defense to twenty eighth in DVOA and like, by

2207
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 4: the math of it, that shouldn't last like some like that,

2208
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,480
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be sustainable.

2209
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: It's probably going to get a short circuit. If it does,

2210
01:41:58,760 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 2: it's probably.

2211
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 6: Gonna right this regular season because they just don't play

2212
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 6: enough of those teams. But it will, you know, will

2213
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 6: it show itself against Buffalo the second right? You know, like,

2214
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 6: is Buffalo going to turn it over three more times

2215
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 6: like they did the first time? What they do, You're

2216
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 6: probably gonna win.

2217
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 3: Botched handoff or that's what I'm saying.

2218
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 2: Like, you know, a lot of people were confused on

2219
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 2: the safety. I got a lot of emails. You know,

2220
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 2: I thought I thought you had a punt after a

2221
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 2: safety and not. The rule is you get a free

2222
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 2: kick freekick, so you can kick it any way you want.

2223
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 2: Like I think you could even do a place kick

2224
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 2: if you want it.

2225
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 4: I don't think you can kick it off the t

2226
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 4: placekick you where you snap it and the Cleveland did no, Yeah,

2227
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 4: because they declared an on site kick. But if you

2228
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 4: just do a straight kickoff, you can kick it off.

2229
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 4: It's so why did everybody punt it then?

2230
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 2: Because it's better for hangtime, hangtime and probably accuracy.

2231
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 6: It's better people punt off a free kick because it's

2232
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 6: easier to cover a punt than.

2233
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: A kick, right right, I guess about it.

2234
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 6: I don't know people free kick all something new, but yeah,

2235
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 6: share a lot, but it's whatever you want.

2236
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a punt, not a place kick, it's

2237
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 2: a free kick.

2238
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:11,599
Speaker 7: So this is all new to me. I like, I've

2239
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 7: never even put that, like, oh, it's a free kick,

2240
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 7: you can kick.

2241
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 4: I just hate the whole You got to declare that

2242
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 4: you're doing an on side kick nonsense.

2243
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like the I don't like the on

2244
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 2: side kick rule.

2245
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 4: I don't like Well, the only reason why it's that

2246
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 4: way is because of the new kickoff rule. Like, I

2247
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 4: don't think it's about safety. I think it's about the

2248
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:30,839
Speaker 4: fact that from where they're kicking from now, Yeah.

2249
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 6: I hate that. I think you should be able to

2250
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 6: on side kick anytime you want.

2251
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 3: Would they be able to do it?

2252
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 6: No?

2253
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 2: I know the other topic you meet, the kickoff. We

2254
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 2: talked about it on the post game show, but you

2255
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 2: know we can bring it up here. First time in

2256
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 2: twenty four years. The team was announced individually her Riginal Stadium.

2257
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 2: A lot of people were excited about it. I guess

2258
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 2: the team wanted to do. It is that right players

2259
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: were about.

2260
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 7: Give some players some recognition.

2261
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I don't like it. I disagree with it.

2262
01:43:59,479 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 22: I like it.

2263
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 2: I like the idea of I like, you know, argue.

2264
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying like all traditions have to stay and

2265
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 2: you can never change anything. But I thought this was

2266
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 2: one tradition that I liked. I like that being part

2267
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 2: of the Patriots identity. We come out as a team.

2268
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 2: And now I guess that's over.

2269
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 5: I think it's a breath of fresher.

2270
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 4: I think I think I have argued enough with friend

2271
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 4: so very much. On the other side of that, we

2272
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 4: got fifteen minutes. I got Patriots m VP not named

2273
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 4: Drake may Give me some candidates, fine, Patriots m VP

2274
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 4: not named Drake may.

2275
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 7: Well, Campbell, Ballaine, I don't know. I mean, it's nobody.

2276
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 7: I feel like.

2277
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:48,600
Speaker 5: I'd say it's Milton Williams.

2278
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 3: Find Diggs. Milton Williams, Yeah, probably.

2279
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 6: I like Milton Williams and Marcus Jones.

2280
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,839
Speaker 2: Points matter, scoring touchdowns.

2281
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 6: The reason why I brought this up is because there

2282
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 6: was a poll. It does last year, I mean last week.

2283
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 6: Last night, I saw a poll on Twitter that had

2284
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 6: three guys and Diggs was one of them, so I

2285
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 6: guess I'll and I'd relent and I'd say Diggs belongs

2286
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 6: he was one the other two. I was like, I

2287
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 6: don't really understand, like how Milton Williams is not on

2288
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 6: this list and the guys they had were on it.

2289
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 6: I mean, who were the guys?

2290
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:30,560
Speaker 5: Let me let me see if I can find it

2291
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 5: for you, Hope, please.

2292
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 7: Like ten minutes to tee it up in our.

2293
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 6: I think so Stefan Diggs, Robert s. Blaine, and Kishan

2294
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 6: Boody with the three guys on the list. I I

2295
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 6: just don't know how Milton Williams and Marcus Jones aren't

2296
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 6: on this list. Robert Splaine had three or four sort

2297
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 6: of SOSO games. I think he was excellent Sunday, I

2298
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 6: think one of his better games. I think he's playing

2299
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 6: better as the weeks go by. But you don't just

2300
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 6: ignore half of the games, you know, when you know,

2301
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 6: we were like four games into the season wondering if

2302
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 6: the linebackers could make any tackles. Now he's making all

2303
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 6: those tackles. So I'm not saying that that's persistent. He's

2304
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 6: been good, but I'm talking about the best player on

2305
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 6: the team not named Drake.

2306
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 7: I like Marcus Jones one, I like, I didn't.

2307
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 3: Like really the best player on the team not named

2308
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 3: Drake may.

2309
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 2: I mean we thought it was going to be Gonzales,

2310
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 2: and he might eventually by the end of the year,

2311
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 2: but not yet.

2312
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 6: Just to go by you a strict definition thing, Yeah,

2313
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 6: you can make an argument for Gonzales. He missed three games.

2314
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 6: How they do in those three games?

2315
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, I want to that's true. I think I

2316
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 23: think you're right on Marcus Jones. Marcus Johnses has been excellent.

2317
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 23: I think Barbour and Williams have been excellent. And it's

2318
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 23: and it's some of the keys consistently good. I would

2319
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 23: have had Harold Landry in consideration until that. Like I'm

2320
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 23: talking to off camera, I wonder if whatever happened in

2321
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 23: New Orleans is lingering because I think he's been less explosive. Yeah,

2322
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,719
Speaker 23: I think I can hear Milton Willia and I would

2323
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 23: make an argument for Diggs for as much of what

2324
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 23: he's done off the field, off.

2325
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 2: The field, but also the cat when he makes his catches.

2326
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 5: He's been terrific on the field.

2327
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that, but I think he has been

2328
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 6: a big part of that maturity of that group.

2329
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:14,640
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I.

2330
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 3: Give it to Diggs.

2331
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 4: I think not only off the field, but if you

2332
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,559
Speaker 4: take that jinga piece out of their offense and now

2333
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 4: there's extra attention on Booty, there's extra attention on the

2334
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 4: tight ends, there's extra attention on Hollins, like he we

2335
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 4: talk so much about the domino effect of having that

2336
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 4: number one receiver and even if he doesn't have the

2337
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 4: production every single week, like just his presence every single

2338
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 4: time a team comes in to play the Patriots, the

2339
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 4: first guy besides Drake May that they talk about is

2340
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs.

2341
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2342
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're saying Diggs is the number one. This, you know,

2343
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 3: Booty is kind.

2344
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 2: Of the fact that we're having this talk and like

2345
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 2: we're mentioning all these different names on both sides of

2346
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,839
Speaker 2: the ball. Does that kind of protect us from injury?

2347
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 9: Oh, that's where you're going. I had the same set up.

2348
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:01,640
Speaker 9: I only was going to say it just makes me

2349
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 9: seem it makes Drake look more valuable. That you can

2350
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 9: have all these different guys that you're kind of lukewarm on.

2351
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 9: But like my definition of the m VP is the

2352
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 9: guy who like kind of carries his team, so I

2353
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 9: was different. You set it up the same way. Sorry

2354
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 9: for I mean to get there, but but.

2355
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 2: Your point is it makes look better. Absolutely it does.

2356
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 2: I think this is you don't have great players.

2357
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 4: Why Alan won m VP over Lamar last year. This

2358
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 4: was absolutely this is the argument was that Lamar had

2359
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 4: a better supporting cast. Yeah, Derrick Henry and you know

2360
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,759
Speaker 4: Josh Allen was making Khalil Shakir and rookie Keon Coleman,

2361
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 4: and you know Dalton Kincaid look like the Pro Bowlers

2362
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 4: and and those guys.

2363
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's a big part of it.

2364
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:42,640
Speaker 4: I think the injury thing is just you know, that

2365
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 4: part of it makes me even more excited about the

2366
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 4: team because, like I think the roster is far from

2367
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 4: done and they're still six and two. Yeah, so like

2368
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 4: if you go into this and you know, not to

2369
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 4: like fast forward, but like if they have one more

2370
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 4: really good offseason next year and another good draft class,

2371
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,759
Speaker 4: like you're talking about being your like a Detroit Lions

2372
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 4: type of thing, where like now the team is really

2373
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 4: really good and sustainably good.

2374
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 7: Can I ask you guys a question.

2375
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 9: This is where my brain's starting to go, is you

2376
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 9: know what is the biggest obstacle for the Patriots getting

2377
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 9: into in the playoffs, making some noise in the playoffs,

2378
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 9: and can they make any attempt to pre you know,

2379
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 9: solve that at the trade deadline, Like what's what's going

2380
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:27,640
Speaker 9: to prevent that?

2381
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if.

2382
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 7: A couple of playoffs.

2383
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,560
Speaker 6: You know, there's a reason why I think people have

2384
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 6: been putting out. They're looking to help the defense because

2385
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,560
Speaker 6: I do feel if they played a good offense and

2386
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 6: now you're in a shootout, because I know how well

2387
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 6: makes play. Most of these games, they're in the low twenties,

2388
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 6: and I know they're ending up thirty two, but I'm

2389
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 6: taking away nine points, like without you know the safety

2390
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 6: and you know you run an interception back inside the five.

2391
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 5: Can they in those kinds again?

2392
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 6: Again, We're looking at this in a whole different thing, right,

2393
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,640
Speaker 6: like this is no longer like, well, geez, what are

2394
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,799
Speaker 6: you nitpicking the wins board. I'm not nitpicking. I'm wondering

2395
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,560
Speaker 6: can they win a shootout? They haven't really had to

2396
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 6: because the other teams don't have any offense. You played

2397
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 6: the thirty second and thirty first ranked offense and back

2398
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 6: to back weeks. Now you played another terrible offense this week,

2399
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 6: But there's a difference on this one.

2400
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 4: They shouldn't.

2401
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,719
Speaker 6: They shouldn't have one of the worst offenses in football.

2402
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 6: They have individual talent that the other teams don't.

2403
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 2: We talk about the Falcons.

2404
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jean Robinson's a really, really good running back. Yeah,

2405
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 6: Drake London is a really good wide receiver. Now they

2406
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 6: don't have a lot of weapons. Kyle Pitts.

2407
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 7: That's the three. That's the three.

2408
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Darnell Mooney Moody as a fourth

2409
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 4: option in an offense. I think Darnell Mooney is a

2410
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 4: really good player for whatever reason.

2411
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 5: I think they're twenty eighth in offense.

2412
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, their offense is you know, I don't usually

2413
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 4: like to say this, but like it points to coaching

2414
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, right, Like their team is way too talented

2415
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 4: for them to be three and four in this Jacqueline Hyde.

2416
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,880
Speaker 4: Like offensively, they if you gave you know, Josh McDaniels,

2417
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 4: Bjon Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts, and Darnell Mooney, they'd

2418
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 4: be a top ten offense in football. Like that's just

2419
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 4: there's something disconnected there between, Like you can't lose to

2420
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:25,759
Speaker 4: that Miami team by thirty or Carolina thirty to nothing

2421
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 4: like And it doesn't matter if it's Pennix or Cousins.

2422
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

2423
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 6: Like I mean, this is like it. And I know

2424
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,559
Speaker 6: everybody's like, oh, they don't. They don't play any better

2425
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 6: home than they do on the road. They're just they

2426
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 6: can play a great game at home against Buffalo, they

2427
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 6: can play a great game on the road against someone else.

2428
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 6: They play a terrible game at home against Miami. Like,

2429
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 6: I don't have good has anything to do with where

2430
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 6: they play. Their defense is better than you people think too.

2431
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 2: Chris wants to know what happened on Mapu's only snap?

2432
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 2: Was it an illegal pick? He didn't play again on defense?

2433
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 2: What did he do wrong? Was he injured?

2434
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 6: It was not an illegal pick, but he got caught

2435
01:51:57,840 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 6: in the wall?

2436
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 4: H yeah, it was it just a class to cross

2437
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 4: or again and ruber out against man coverage. And I

2438
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 4: think that this is one of the things you know,

2439
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 4: to douce his question about the trade deadline, that they

2440
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 4: really don't have anybody to cover the tight end. And

2441
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 4: that's why this week, as much as I don't think

2442
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts has lived up to the pick that he

2443
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 4: was drafted at. I think he's a talented player that

2444
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 4: you know, when you're man to man against him, like,

2445
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 4: he can make you.

2446
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 3: Pay in a matchup.

2447
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 4: He's got the talent, And I just I don't know

2448
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 4: if I was one spot that I would really want

2449
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 4: them to upgrade on this team. You know, call it

2450
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 4: a linebacker, call it a safety, call whatever you want,

2451
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 4: but somebody that allows them to play better man coverage

2452
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,360
Speaker 4: against tight end, so that they can play man to

2453
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 4: man at more of a higher rate than what they're playing.

2454
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 4: Because they have three good man coverage players and Davis

2455
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,799
Speaker 4: Gonzo and Marcus Jones, it's the fourth and fifth eligible

2456
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 4: receiver that's given them problems, which is usually they're running

2457
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 4: back in the tight end.

2458
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 3: So how do you fix that?

2459
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 9: You notice thinking, I don't know if you agree with me,

2460
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,600
Speaker 9: but watching this defensive scheme, I feel like if they

2461
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 9: found a really special safety, that that guy could absolutely

2462
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 9: be the centerpiece of defense, you know, Like it just

2463
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 9: seems this scheme is so set up for a safety

2464
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 9: who can do it all and rush the quarterback and

2465
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 9: play the center. Like I mean, I'd read obviously as

2466
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 9: a unicorn, but I don't know if they'll find that

2467
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 9: kind of guy. But it just seems like this system

2468
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 9: would really thrive if you could find one of those

2469
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 9: really elite safeties that can do it all.

2470
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2471
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 4: I mean, well they had buyered in Tennessee and he did,

2472
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 4: you know, so he had great years with Rabel and Tennessee.

2473
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 3: But you know, the Titans, I guess are open for business.

2474
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 4: It sounds like besides cam Ward and Jeffrey Simmons, and

2475
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 4: I'll keep pounding the table. Get Amani Hooker on the Patriots,

2476
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 4: like find a you know, a way to get him here.

2477
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 4: I think that that would be a big help to

2478
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 4: their safetym It's nothing against Hawkins and Woodson. I thought

2479
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 4: Hawkins played well in this game, actually, but they need

2480
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 4: somebody that allows them to play man go a week

2481
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 4: from today.

2482
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the deadline is the fourth.

2483
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2484
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 9: Jalen Phillips, is this like those kind of guys interest

2485
01:53:58,320 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 9: edge guys? I mean it makes sense to me.

2486
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 6: I would take an edge guy, and I know what

2487
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 6: you guys are saying, just because I think that there's

2488
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 6: a potential for availability.

2489
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah Hendrickson, Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.

2490
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean I think if you could, if you

2491
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 6: could get a hat could just just win. That could

2492
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 6: just win a one on one and just create pressure

2493
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 6: on the passive so huge. The whole thing about well,

2494
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,599
Speaker 6: the front four is kind of inconsistent with the pressure.

2495
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 6: It's so much from the middle with Williams and Barb Wore.

2496
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 6: They win theirs with the bull rushes and whatnot. But

2497
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 6: you get an athletic.

2498
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 2: Because you're real.

2499
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 7: You need that consistent fresh pass rush rotation going.

2500
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they are playing the clean up. They're playing

2501
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 4: those two guys a lot, Chase On and Landry. So

2502
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 4: if you could find a third guy that you can

2503
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 4: rely on, even if it's not Trey Hendrickson, even if

2504
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 4: it's just someone that is a reliable player kind of

2505
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 4: in the same ilk as Landry and Chase On, that

2506
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 4: could just take some of the pressure off. Because they

2507
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 4: let Anthony Jennings play a little bit in this game

2508
01:54:58,400 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 4: and he was okay, And I.

2509
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 7: Was thinking of about that a little bit.

2510
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 9: Like to me, I could see Jennings getting traded just

2511
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 9: because at least he has a thing like with key

2512
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:06,440
Speaker 9: On White, I don't I don't know what.

2513
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:06,880
Speaker 7: His thing is.

2514
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 9: He's not different defenses, but you know, with somebody, are

2515
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 9: people going to trade for that, Like, is any team

2516
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 9: going to look at him and be like, oh, he's

2517
01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 9: the perfect fit for a defense.

2518
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 4: Like if you're a team that has like big run

2519
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 4: stuffing defensive tackles and you need a third down into

2520
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 4: your pass rusher where he's only going to play over

2521
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 4: the guard in passing situations, then I could see Kean

2522
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 4: White having a role. He just with Williams and Barmore,

2523
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 4: that role doesn't exist here. So right now he's like

2524
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 4: a backup to Milton Williams. Is essentially his role on

2525
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 4: this team. So when Milton Williams is healthy, there's no

2526
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 4: snaps for him. So that's why he's inactive. But if

2527
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 4: you're a team like that that has you know, big

2528
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 4: run stuffers that play first and second.

2529
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 2: Down, but you need to Yeah, you need to change up,

2530
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 2: all right, that's gonna be it got things to do.

2531
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 6: Oh why do you always short change?

2532
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 2: We have Wednesday and we have Thursday, and we have

2533
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 2: catch twenty two tomorrow at ten. Correct, i's barth doing.

2534
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:01,920
Speaker 2: I always like to do a wellness check on him.

2535
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 4: He's doing good, Yeah, doing great. Changed up his Sunday

2536
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 4: schedule a little bit, so he was very you know.

2537
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 2: He's always a take guy. What's his? What's his? This

2538
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 2: week's take for him?

2539
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2540
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 2: Tomorrow find out Takeaway.

2541
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 5: Is not happy with the fifteen yard punt by Barringer.

2542
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 4: I'm sure that made him out right. This was one

2543
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 4: of the rare games that we didn't talk a ton

2544
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 4: after the game, so we didn't have our debriefs.

2545
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 2: Oh wow, he didn't meet up.

2546
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 4: No, No, he had to do the the sports Hub podcast. Yeah, right,

2547
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 4: he had to do the Sports Hub podcast. So that

2548
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 4: was he had to run out on Sunday, so we didn't. Usually,

2549
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 4: you know, we try to time it up and sometimes

2550
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 4: we walked to our cars together.

2551
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 7: We do by the Brady statue and have a little

2552
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 7: you know, just we could do that too.

2553
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 6: It's Mike and I. We have our little debrief walking.

2554
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 5: It's a post game show debrief usually shivering.

2555
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 4: You guys do the debrief on the post game show.

2556
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 4: Then you debrief for real because you tell your real feelings.

2557
01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly.

2558
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 6: They've been one and the same with these games.

2559
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 2: Thanks for being here today. We'll see you tomorrow.

2560
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 3: Hey, this is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show.

2561
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:19,360
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2562
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,879
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2563
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2565
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,480
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2566
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2567
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