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Speaker 1: So if you don't know, you know Kanye had met

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Speaker 1: But before doing it, I wasn't in the podcast world.

426
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't someone that was listening to all these mommy

427
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: and me ones and listening to all these things. I'd

428
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 1: maybe a few times if it was a friends, So

429
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: I will say it was a completely new world to

430
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: me and and still kind of is in a way. Yeah,

431
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: but you're talking about something more produced. You're talking about

432
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: somebody that has to be cut together properly because you're

433
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: taking people on a journey. So it's a little different.

434
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: So that makes that makes sense. Yeah, And the music

435
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,719
Speaker 1: coming and going and and I'm playing quote games and

436
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: asking people what characters said this, and then playing the

437
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: quote like you know what I mean. It's a very

438
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: different thing but also fun. But to what you said,

439
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: I do agree. I was happy that I hadn't listened

440
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: to a bunch of formatted um mine isn't a rewatch. Yeah,

441
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm happy that I didn't because I wanted it to

442
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: be my own thing and my own take. And I

443
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: also really want it to be like colorful and fun

444
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: because I think that's what the world needs right now.

445
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: Um but also being based around gossip. L I remember

446
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: all the years doing the show. People want the dirt

447
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: and people want to ask this, and people want to

448
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: know that, and I'm like, yo, you we get that

449
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: all the time, and and and all the news and

450
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: all the things and what our world's going on, like

451
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: let's go on a journey and talk about why it

452
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 1: worked and we had so much fun and the fashion

453
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: and the stuff. Let's also talk about the challenges. I'm

454
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: gonna be real. I'm not gonna be sit here and

455
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: only sugarcoat things, or I'll be real with people, um

456
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: like the challenges of of of how the show hit

457
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: and all those types of things. We'll talk about on it.

458
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to go on and literally get

459
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: into people's personal ship and and do that. If you

460
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: want to do that, you don't want to do junk food.

461
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: You want to do the meaning behind it. And no

462
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: matter what, you can't have a show sustain a success

463
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: all on fumes. It can't all be just on gossip

464
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: and eyelashes, right and ironically because it's Gossip Girl. Ironically,

465
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit and gossip about anything. I

466
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: just don't. I have better things to do. And the

467
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: show was there was so many good things about it.

468
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: But that was my That was my other take with it,

469
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: which there was a couple of people that had wanted

470
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: us to go, you know, take be our home for it,

471
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: and one girl said, well, can you talk about how

472
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Nate Archibald slept with an older woman. I said, well,

473
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: you just said it, and you know that's inappropriate. So

474
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: why am I going to come on and do that

475
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm not doing that? So I said, thank you

476
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: for this. That's low hanging for it. So I get that.

477
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: I get that. Now the clarification makes sense. So what

478
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: what jumped off the page with what you were just saying?

479
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: You are in a relationship, you have a one year old,

480
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: and um, he's in a public world, but not the

481
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: same way. He's got more and more of a very

482
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: specific discipline and he's not dealing with the media on

483
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: the same level as you are. I'm sure it occurs,

484
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: but not at the same feverish pace. So a how

485
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: do you, um, how do you balance where the fish

486
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: are if you're going for your career, if you're going

487
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: for his career. I'm in a long distance relationship. There's

488
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: really only one peacock and a relationship that works for me.

489
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: So how are you balancing we're going there for you, now,

490
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: we're doing this for me, for you or just for

491
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: the relationship, all of that dynamic. Explain that to me.

492
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting, and you're right, he has such a

493
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: structured very he knows what he's doing next the Tuesday

494
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: in April of I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow

495
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: at at seven am, And that's just kind of the

496
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: life of an actor, the life of a mom, the

497
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: life of you know, you know, I would get my

498
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: call time for set at ten pm with a three

499
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: month old and having to be on set at five am,

500
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: learning these like crazy like space jargon dialogue written by

501
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: Seth MacFarland, whose brain just works on another level, which

502
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: is beautiful dialogue and such a wonderful show. But it

503
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: was like just another level of things, and he would

504
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: like know exactly what his week was. So it's definitely

505
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: a different dynamic dynamic, but I also think that's what

506
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: balances us out. But what I will say is he

507
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: knows that with an athlete, there's like an end, you know,

508
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: they're going to retire, that their body gives out. So

509
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: we're at a time where he's he's done in the

510
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: next couple of years. So I was like, I will

511
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: do and move and I'll have the baby in Nashville.

512
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: At seven months, I found out he's moving. We're going

513
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: to Nashville. Fair enough, he asked me, he said, how

514
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: do you feel. I said, listen, you only got a

515
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: couple of years. Let's go. Never met my doctor until

516
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: I got there, had the baby, and then did that.

517
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: But it's it's about give and take, I guess, and

518
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: that's what I did. But I did say, when you're retired,

519
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: if I want to take a show in Atlanta or Italy,

520
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: you're coming with me. And he's like, you got it, babe.

521
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: So to be fair, it's because this isn't like he's

522
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: an actor and he's like, Okay, now I'm gonna go

523
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: do a movie this year, and you're gonna do this

524
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: like in two or three years. He's going to be

525
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: done playing and that's just a fact of a matter.

526
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be forty one and playing hockey. It

527
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: just doesn't work that way. No, But to be fair

528
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: to you and the process, because I'm in a relationship

529
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: like that where we're not together every day, and uh

530
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: this this therapist that I spoke to said, people's expectations

531
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: get into relationships or get engaged, then their reality is

532
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: what drives the meaning. We're twenty six, we're both gonna

533
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: order dinner every name and going every vacation together and

534
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna you know, and then in reality you might hate

535
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: their in laws or something happens, and then the reality

536
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: comes into it. So the reality is you guys fall

537
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: in love, but you're not thinking about all these layers,

538
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: these issues. And I think it's yeah, and I think

539
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: it's um very evolved to not be thinking about the

540
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: maybe the pain you feel right now or discomfort in

541
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: all this unsettled, but to know that there's a you know,

542
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: later on our kids will be older, so I know

543
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: I have the same situation. But it's nice to be

544
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: able to also get older and realize relationships aren't about

545
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: the ideals, are about the reality. So sometimes it's nice

546
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: to have time on your own. And maybe it's an

547
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: adventure for you to get to move different places and

548
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: you sort of market it differently. Does that make any sense? Absolutely,

549
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. It was very neat and

550
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: cool to go to Nashville and at nights when he

551
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: was there and I was taking care of the baby

552
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: and going, I'm like, oh god, I could I really

553
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: wish he was here now. But that's also the world

554
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: we live in. And we got to have a house

555
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: in Nashville and by the beach and here because of

556
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: what we do and love. Um. But it's like you said,

557
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: in reality, like sometimes, like you know, all of my

558
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: friends back home and from my small town are like, well,

559
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: how really is that? And I'm like, it's a lot.

560
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, it's a fucking lot. Um. But

561
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: I love him and I love what I do, and

562
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I love our life. And don't get me wrong, are

563
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: their nights. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do this for sure.

564
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: I'd be a liar to pretend. I just was talking

565
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: to my friend and she's like, your life it seems great,

566
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: I said, listen Instagram, And I'm not a liar, But

567
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: like no one talks about like the fight they just

568
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: had or the struggle they're doing here all the time.

569
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: Not that I don't there are times I do voice that,

570
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: but my life is pretty good. I'm not lying on that.

571
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: But don't get me wrong. I have days where I'm

572
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: frustrated and I break down and I cry and I'm tired.

573
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Um not often, but it happens. But I would be

574
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: scared if it didn't with the way my life is

575
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: and being you know, being it's crazy. No, And you

576
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: also want to tell I have friends who have issues

577
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: in their marriages, and you know each of them has

578
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: a different issue and they reach the brink and think

579
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: of breaking up, but they know they'll be together forever.

580
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: And I always want to tell the struggles I go

581
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: through because you don't want other people. It's just a

582
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: terrible thing to make people feel alone, like you have

583
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: the perfect life, and then they're thinking, because we've all

584
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: been there where you look, look at them, I'm miserable,

585
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: look at them there together. So I always have felt

586
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: the responsibility to tell people the flaws because I think people,

587
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: in not a bad way, misery does want company, but

588
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: not because they're jealous, because they want to know someone

589
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: else's going through what they're going through as a woman, right,

590
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: And let's be fair, it doesn't matter the money, the fame,

591
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: the all of it, Pete. We're humans, so we go

592
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: through struggle. Actually, I think the more ship you have

593
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: sometimes the more complicated it is, because you do have

594
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: more people looking and wondering and asking. And there is

595
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: not a thing where I need to be perfect or

596
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: proof to anybody, but there is some sort of thing

597
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I'm a mom and I'm working, and

598
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: there's a layer of being in the public eye where

599
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: you do kind of have to wear these hats and

600
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: do these things. Um. And that being said, it's it's

601
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: it's not easy all the time. But um, but then

602
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that wouldn't really change a

603
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: lot of my life either, you know what I mean.

604
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, should I have stayed home and married my

605
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: high school sweetheart and know exactly what I'm doing every day?

606
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that, don't get me wrong.

607
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: To each their own. That wasn't for me. So sometimes

608
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: not knowing you know, if he if he could get

609
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: traded tonight and we could be on the road and

610
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: be in St. Louis, well, we I talked a lot

611
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: about wants and needs. My fiancee talks about wants and

612
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: needs are things if you're a person needs to be

613
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: in one place, This relationship wouldn't work for you, even

614
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: if he was Prince Charming, because but you're not like that,

615
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: You're we all have different wants which we love. Then

616
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: needs like this is a thing I'm not like you

617
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: in three years, once you've paid your dues. It is

618
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: not a want, it is a need. I need to

619
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: know that you're coming with me. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So

620
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: then that comes up quite a bit and like I am,

621
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I need that baby, right. It's funny you

622
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: say that. I literally we just a couple of days

623
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: ago had that conversation. I'm like, I need to know,

624
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, I've never told you not, and we

625
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: It's funny because he was married before. And I have

626
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: a little stepdaughter who's the just the sweetest little girl,

627
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: and her life is you know, she goes to school

628
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: and stuff in in Arizona. So we always have to

629
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: have that in our puzzle to um, I got it.

630
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: I got my own puzzle too. It's a puzzle and

631
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: you just have to be present and breathe and know

632
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: that it's okay today. Like it's when you get into

633
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: the future and start projecting about what if that happens

634
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: and that's not working what And you just have to

635
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: allow that. Okay, every think's okay, nothing's going on right now,

636
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean specifically right. And I find that interesting you're

637
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: saying that, because that's the truth. But someone who's done

638
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: so well as a businesswoman, because we know it's never

639
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: just an idea. There's layers and percentages and chunks and

640
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: conversations and and so much that goes into being successful

641
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: or having a successful product or things, you know, things

642
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: like that. So it's funny to hear you say that.

643
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: It's actually beautiful to hear you say that, because someone

644
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: that can do all those things and be so successful

645
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: to be like, let's not worry about all that in

646
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: the future. Let's just worry about today because someone that

647
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: does that. But maybe that's a different in that puzzle piece.

648
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: That's what you do there, right. I wrote a book

649
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: called I Suck a Relationships You don't have to. That's

650
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: where my place of wounding is in my life. But um,

651
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: in business, I'm extremely decisive. I just I go with

652
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: my gut all the time. So I'm excellent at that.

653
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: But by the same token, I've never had a grand

654
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: business plan. Now I'm I'm always strategizing, meaning I'm always

655
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: looking at the players on the field and looking at

656
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: the whole you know board, like the whole field and

657
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: the players. But I'm not I don't have like a

658
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: two five your plan. I just do what I what

659
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: I feel in the moment and be present and I

660
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: try very hard because otherwise it would be too overwhelming,

661
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's too overwhelming. Um. Okay, so you have

662
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: had an interesting career. Where did you grow up? Um,

663
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: a little town called Monominee Falls outside of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

664
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Oh you really are a small town girl. Yeah? Yeah.

665
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: So what was your house like? What were your parents like?

666
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: What was what was business and money and success and fame?

667
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: What was what was that about in your house? Small town?

668
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm the oldest of five kids, but at the time,

669
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: like growing up, I was the oldest of four. My

670
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: mom had a baby when I my little sister when

671
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, so I was basically like moving out

672
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: as she was coming into the world. Um. We're still

673
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: very we're very close. Actually, if we hang out, you

674
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: would never know that we didn't grow up in the

675
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: same household together, got it. Um, But my mom, I mean,

676
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: she's like she's a hustler. She was always like very creative. Um,

677
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I would say an artist, even though that's not really

678
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: how she made money. Um. And my dad was a

679
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: car salesman and he was like the best at it,

680
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: the best in the Midwest. And you know, I would

681
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: have never known we had like if we ever were

682
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: struggling for money because my mom always kept it really

683
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: like tight and good, and we always like we're very

684
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: we matched, and we looked very like put together and

685
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: all the things. Our house was always decorated great, but

686
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: my mom would take like something from a garage sale

687
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: and and turn it into something that could have been

688
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: in vogue. Like literally, people would come over and be like,

689
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: who's your decorator, and we'd be like, that's from my

690
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: garage sale for like ten dollars, and my mom would laugh.

691
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: If I said ten dollars, she'd be like it was

692
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: two and I had to bargain, so they it was

693
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: very much that. And when I was like five, someone

694
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: stopped my mom and said, you should get her into modeling.

695
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how this whole like entertainment open

696
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: for me. But at seven thirteen, someone asked us to

697
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: go to l A. And my family's like, we can't

698
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: afford to do it, we have other kids. And that

699
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: never left my brain. I was like, there's something that

700
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: this agent wants to do. And I wasn't moved to

701
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: l A or just come for two days and see

702
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: what's going on, come to l A to meet with people,

703
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: do pilot season things like that, and and I had

704
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: not really aged. Yeah, it was. It was to me,

705
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: I felt something. I was like, well, that's cool that

706
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: he wants me to do that. But in my mind,

707
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: I was in high school. My parents weren't gonna go there.

708
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: It just wasn't an option. So when I was seventeen,

709
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: I walked into my senior year of high school and

710
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: my home room, and the teacher said something along the

711
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: lines of, um, you know, congratulations, here's the first day

712
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: of the rest of your life, something along those lines,

713
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: and I remember like repeating that back in my head

714
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: in the bell ring and I'm like, this isn't okay.

715
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm this isn't the first day of the rest of

716
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: my life. Like I'm not staying here doing this. So

717
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: I walked to the guidance counts er. I said, I

718
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: need to take all my credits. I want to be

719
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: done in January. And he said why. And I had

720
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: placed soccer my my whole high school career, and that

721
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: was the soccer season you ended high school. So I

722
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: took all the credits. I get home that day from

723
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: school and I said to my parents, I'm going to

724
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: graduate in January. I'm gonna go and see that agent

725
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago in l A. I

726
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: hope you guys are okay with that, And they kind

727
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: of looked at me like what, And they were, but

728
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: they were supportive. They said, if that's what's gonna make

729
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: you happy, Well, what do you mean, you're yours high

730
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: school student? You got your credits together. That's insane. I've

731
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: never heard of that. That's just very you can graduate

732
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: early because basically it was like history, math, science, and

733
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: English and they usually were split. So I just took

734
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: those four credits and the other three and just did

735
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: it all in the first semester, right and then but

736
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: what did you do when you got to l A?

737
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: So we my mom's like, have you talked to the agent?

738
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: And I said, well no, but I'm sure you know.

739
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: So we called my agent that I worked with in Chicago.

740
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: They called, they said absolutely, come. So my mom came

741
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: with me for two weeks set up my apartment. Because

742
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: I had modeled through those years, I was like, I'm

743
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: going to take the money from that. My mom my

744
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: parents were looking at me like okay, are you giving

745
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: us an option? Like what? But they were great, and

746
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: so they gave me like a chunk of the money

747
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: from the modeling. I got a place and I didn't

748
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: have to go and be a waiter or anything right away,

749
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: so I could take an acting class. I mean it

750
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: was this like ten tho dollars or like how much

751
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: are we talking about? Yeah, it was I think it

752
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: was fifteen. And I think it was like managed to

753
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: be like what my rent was, you know, spending money

754
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: for my car, a little like leeway to like eat out, which, honestly,

755
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: when you look back at that time, at fifteen dollars

756
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: to go and not have a plan is like, it's

757
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: pretty nice. I know people that went with nothing and

758
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: couldn't pay for their head shots no, right, so that

759
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: that's like you plan for that to be for like

760
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: six months. I think that was like the time. And

761
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: then I was planning to go to Columbia in Chicago,

762
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: which is an art school. I was going to be

763
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: an interior designer and live in Chicago, which was two

764
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: hours from my family, So I was planning on going back.

765
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: That was my plan. This was taking a shot. This

766
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: was taking a shot, yes, and then um ironically, which

767
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: this helped me. One of the first commercial auditions I

768
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: went on was an IBM commercial and I booked it

769
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: and it ran and at that time, it was crazy

770
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: and I made like six figures, so going out with

771
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: no it was wild. But I was also like learning

772
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: at my mom's like you gotta you know, you gotta

773
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: pay taxes, and you know you gotta do this and

774
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: you do that, because I never had to deal with

775
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: any of that. I was in high school, you know.

776
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: So that was nice because then I didn't have to

777
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: worry if I ran out of that fifteen thousand dollars

778
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: because I had these checks coming in. But I don't

779
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: know if you know this with commercials back then, I'm

780
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: sure you do. You didn't know what you were going

781
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: to make. So if you booked a national commercial, it

782
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: wasn't like they were like, Okay, here's three thousand dollar.

783
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: You didn't know that. It would just be like you

784
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: got paid every time it ran so like some weeks

785
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: would be ten grand, some weeks it'd be twenty and

786
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: I'd be like, mom, this is grazy. So that like

787
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: kind of was like, okay, I got lee. Wait, I

788
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: was still planning to go. Back then, I booked a

789
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: guest star and my wife and kids, and Marlon Wayne's

790
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: had said to me, wait, so how long have you

791
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: been here? Said a couple of weeks wherever, and I

792
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: this is crazy this story because I used to audition.

793
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy that this happened to you. That's amazing. And

794
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: I think at the time, I'm mixed. I had curly hair.

795
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: It was kind of that thing where people were like

796
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: not sure if I was white or black, so I

797
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: kind of could fit in these things because well, you

798
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: have an exotic look. Thank you. That's not even what

799
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: I was saying. I just felt like my curly hair.

800
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: People were like, she's got weird hair. Let's book her.

801
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: We allowed to say exotic anymore. Their words, you are

802
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: not a lot. I don't even know if that's a word. No,

803
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, the words you're not

804
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: allowed to say. I don't have a low of exotic

805
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: is the wrong word. Honestly, I think that's like the

806
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: biggest compliment. So thank you. I was meaning, you know,

807
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: like like I can't say what nationality you are, where

808
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: you're from. You have you have dramatic eyes. You just

809
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: look very dramatic. So I could see six people thinking

810
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: you have this look of you know, like it's very unique.

811
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: So anyway, you're beautiful. Thank you. That's but I'm only

812
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: saying because I I don't want to sound like, oh,

813
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: I got here and I booked this commercial, and I

814
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: booked this thing I got. There was a ton of

815
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: ship that I didn't get. Don't get me wrong, but

816
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: this was in that six months where it kind of

817
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: kept me like, oh this is fun. But Marlon had said, okay,

818
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: so you just got and I said, yeah, I actually

819
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: plan on when when my semester would be done my

820
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: senior year, I'm going to go back and start school

821
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: like I would have had I not come out here.

822
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: And he said, you can't do that. That's like not

823
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: that's like giving up. And that sat with me and

824
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: I called my mom and I'm like, I'm I'm gonna stay.

825
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: Then I stayed and yeah, and the story like, it's

826
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: so funny because then I almost moved home and then

827
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: book Gossip Girl like a week after I almost moved home. No,

828
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: but what I'm getting at I guess and hearing what

829
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: you're saying, So there's no right or wrong your It

830
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: sounds like you were similar in this way. I the

831
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: opportunity presents itself in this moment, I make the most

832
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: of it. I make the best and I do it

833
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: to the best of my ability, and then then I

834
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: look to the left and the right and see all

835
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: the signs of where I'm supposed to be next. I

836
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: don't if you had stuck to your plan, whether it

837
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: was even Chicago, you sort of said I'm going there,

838
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to be organized, I have a budget, But

839
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: you sort of it looks like you follow the bread crumbs.

840
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: It seems like you just said, Okay, this is the moment,

841
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm following the path. Yeah. And even though that was

842
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: the case, there wasn't a plane ticket back. There wasn't.

843
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: It was kind of I think, I think, to be honest,

844
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: when I look back or reflect on it, it was

845
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: more me to say, like, I'm gonna go back maybe

846
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: if if it didn't wasn't working out for me, It's

847
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: just easier to say, it's easier to come to terms with, like,

848
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: but I was planning on doing that anyway when push

849
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: comes to I don't really know consciously that I wanted

850
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: to go back. Who I mean, you know what I mean?

851
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Marlon telling me that, But

852
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: also because I was open to it, that that's why

853
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: it all did pan out the way it did, or

854
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: that I did stay, and then I was able to

855
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: work with some of the best producers and have an

856
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: acting career. You know what I mean. There's a fine line.

857
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: There's a fine line. It's interesting because I want to

858
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, in business you gotta be on it and

859
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: passionate and driven and won't give up. But in entertainment

860
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: and in acting, in some regard, the least interested party

861
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: always wins. Like you need a freedom and an effortlessness.

862
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean Brad Pitt coming into uh, Thelma and Louise

863
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: and not even I think really even being an actor

864
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: in those stories, or Matt Dillon being found or Matthew McConaughey,

865
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: who I interviewed being found in a bar. You know,

866
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: there's there's something to being effortless and free as an actor.

867
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: I think that is different than a business person, because

868
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: it's just even though being an actor is a business.

869
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: I tried to audition. I cared so much years ago

870
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: that I think I was too in my head and

871
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't good at it, and it probably just wasn't

872
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: good anyway. But there's just a there's a dance around

873
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: certain parts of business, and it's not always the best

874
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: way to sort of strangle something. It doesn't always mean

875
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: for people listening that you always should be just like

876
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: so so hungry that there's no air in the room

877
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: for to breathe. If that's not working for you, you

878
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, it's just interesting, right, And

879
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: I think that that that reads like I remember, like

880
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: an actor said to me once, like when someone walks

881
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: in a room and they desperately want the role so bad,

882
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: we can tell before they even do the dialogue, and

883
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: it's attractive and you can't watch the scene, So you

884
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, it's it's if you're desperate

885
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: for something. And by the way, when you love something

886
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: and you're great, it's you could like a business woman,

887
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: you can love what you're doing and want it to

888
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: do so well and be hungry and strive and do

889
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: it without being desperate. The second you become desperate and

890
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: you need it, that then it takes away from what

891
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: is up. Because, by the way, it's like anything, if

892
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: someone wants to sell me something, if you totally tell

893
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: me how much I need it, I'm not. I don't

894
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: want it. Thank you, thank you you. I was bothered

895
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: because I'm you know, in my head thinking to myself way,

896
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: how do I where to make this parallel? Because exactly so,

897
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: the someone was talking about buying my company, and I

898
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: always doesn't matter what meaning it is where I am

899
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: always the same. I'm just like, listen, I only want

900
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: to sell part of it if this is the right partnership.

901
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not literally, I'm not desperate. I only want it

902
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: if it's going to be good for both of us.

903
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: So here are my flaws, because you're gonna find them

904
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: at anyway if we get married. And that's not desperate.

905
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: That's just straight up. Even though I'm showing my flaws,

906
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's desperate. It's just honest. So in business,

907
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: that's you just nailed it. Where the line is, you

908
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: can never be desperate. You just you could be confident,

909
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: you could be secure. I'm be lined up, but you

910
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: can't be I was desperate to be on the Apprentice

911
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: the first time. The second time I allowed it and

912
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: let it go, and then they wanted me, and it's

913
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: like that's what it thinks. Yeah, that's that's exactly right.

914
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: And I needed it. You can't need it. You have

915
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: to want it, but you can't need it. Exactly. It's

916
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: going right back to the need and one and that's

917
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: so true and correct and and it's a you can

918
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: feel that, you know that, you know what I mean,

919
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Like it's like, oh my god, Okay, we're good, you

920
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: know yeah. Um, It's it's not always like you want

921
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: what you can't have, but there is a little bit

922
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I mean. Like, I just

923
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: think it's the essence of your freedom of like the

924
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: confidence and the freedom, and that's just illuminates and I

925
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: think that does totally transfer in business. It's I'm glad

926
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: we got there. And then I wanted to ask you

927
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: when did you where were you at? Like was there

928
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: a moment in your life where you're like I knew

929
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: you were going to be this businesswoman? Did you always

930
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: have like uh, like not even no. It's so crazy

931
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: because I'm so fastidious and meticulous and organized and every

932
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: single thing is label and I'm just you know, I'm

933
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: the most I'd never ever procrastinate all of my condiments

934
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: or organizeding my my kitchen like you can believe. But

935
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: I am a very Um. I was in my late

936
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: thirties and I still didn't know what I was doing.

937
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: I was just on the road and I like telling

938
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: people that because there it's not it's not really ever

939
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: too late. I literally had eight thousand dollars in my

940
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: bank account in my late thirties, so, um, you also

941
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: look like you're thirty five years old. I was always

942
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: driving towards something. I was always I was always if

943
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I got beaten down, I would get up and I

944
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: would have a good attitude, and I was just going

945
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: back to it. But it's scary when you're alone in

946
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: your late thirties. You don't know what's actually going to happen, like,

947
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: you don't know how you're gonna be supported. I don't

948
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: have any family to fall back on. I had nothing,

949
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: so I just always did everything to the best of

950
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: my ability, no matter what it was. I but I

951
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: learned that I was such a I thought I was smart.

952
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: I always thought I was smart. I think doing the

953
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: Apprentice was great because it was a horse race and

954
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: we were all all lined up equally, and I just

955
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: nailed it one after another. I just always had a

956
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: good business instinct. But I didn't know it was called business.

957
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: We didn't have brands back then. You didn't have it

958
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: just was an entrepreneurs. You didn't say that, you just

959
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: so I didn't even know any of that existed. But

960
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: I learned that. I learned that I was smart and

961
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: that I had a good business instinct. But you learned

962
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: like a lawyer, like case law. Each business deal has

963
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: different flaws and problems and learning mistakes. I've made multimillion

964
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: dollar errors that I wouldn't make now, and they'd be

965
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: even worth much much more. So it's just a work

966
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: in progress. And when you do when something like that happens,

967
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: is it like cringeworthy and you freak out? Or can

968
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: you not freak I mean, what do you do when

969
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: you're saying like, that's that's wild. I only swept the

970
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: small stuff. I only swept the small stuff. I literally

971
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: sweat all the nuts on my tabowl and I don't

972
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: and a million dollars stuff. I don't swear. It's very strange,

973
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, but do you know what it works for you?

974
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: That's what it was my dating profile when I met Paul.

975
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: The only thing my entire profile said that I like

976
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: walks on the beach, I drink rose. I only sweat

977
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: the small stuff. So last night he looks at me

978
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: and he goes, why are you Why are you cheasing me?

979
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Because I was cheasing him. I just say things to

980
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: him that and he goes, why and I said, because

981
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: we're sweating the small stuff. He goes, but you're sweating

982
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: my soul stuff. I said the small stuff. I didn't

983
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: say my sweating. Both of us exactly us. And where

984
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: did you guys meet? We met online? Okay, I know,

985
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: and he's Prince Charming. It's shocking. That's amazing. You know.

986
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: What I think is so like, I'm awesome about that

987
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: is like at one point people were like nervous to

988
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: like say that. Now I know more friends getting married

989
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: had never relationships than all these people that were set

990
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: up and all these things. I'm like, there was a

991
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: time where people were like, I don't say anything. I'm like,

992
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: don't say anything. It's it was the personal. It was

993
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: yeah when I was Yeah, but the pandemic really accelerated

994
00:46:49,800 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: that too because people were home and it's it's great. Okay,

995
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: so you're on Gossip Girl. How old are you when

996
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: it when it ended too? I think doesn't I was

997
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: twenty turning three, okay, so social social media didn't exist. No,

998
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about this earlier. Twitter definitely came out

999
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: during because I remember thinking like why would people want

1000
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: people to follow them and know that they're at the

1001
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: grocery store. I wasn't staying at it like I was

1002
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: on the House, So I was at the same time

1003
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: you were on Gossip Girl the same okay, yes, And

1004
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: I remember thinking that's weird. When I look back in

1005
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: the moment at that time, I probably should have looked

1006
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: at it like, well, that's a way to like put

1007
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: a charity out there awareness of this, But my mind

1008
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: wasn't there. My mind was like, why do people care

1009
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: that Ashton culture is at relph? What is eating? He

1010
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: was showing his lunch. It's exactly we came in at

1011
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: the same point because I was on House, I was

1012
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: Twitter came and I remember being like, oh my god,

1013
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: I wanted I want to walk on on Gossip Girl

1014
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: as the Skinny Girl creator. Would have been fun with

1015
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: the coptis. I remember, you should know, but well, of

1016
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: course I would have, but um, I was kind of

1017
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: a nobody. But yes, the Twitter thing came and I

1018
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: thought the same thing. You couldn't. You can't you're not

1019
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 1: a soothsay, or you didn't know what it would become.

1020
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, Right, it's unsafe to tell

1021
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: people and who cares where I am? Yes, so you're

1022
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: on the show. There's no social media effectively as it

1023
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: is now. You weren't producing your own life. No, there

1024
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: wasn't even really blogs. Like the show was about a blogger,

1025
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: and there weren't really blogs. Like now you could go

1026
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: up to a little boy a little girl said what

1027
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: do you want to be? When you go they could

1028
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: say a blogger. At the time we were doing the show,

1029
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl was a blogger, but it didn't really exist,

1030
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know if you were getting emails

1031
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: basically fan emails. Yeah, yeah, yeah, same, you're getting Fanny emails. Um,

1032
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: so what about business? Like what are you thinking? Is

1033
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: there any thought on a show like that playing another

1034
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: character which doesn't have the same freedom as being yourself

1035
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: and marketing what you're doing because you're in a script?

1036
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 1: What about business? And do I make this into something

1037
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: and what's next? Or am I just an actor and

1038
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: just gonna keep acting and working for other people where

1039
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: they're making all the money? Like what about that conversation? Yeah? See,

1040
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: which was interesting about Gossip Girl compared to other shows

1041
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: that maybe we had guests start on our friend my

1042
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: Friends that were on stuff even though brilliant, brilliantly well

1043
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: written and um great storylines and stuff, Gossip Girl hit

1044
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: in a way where you could kind of brand out.

1045
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: We there was five nights a week, you know, being

1046
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: in the city, like different events and different things, and

1047
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: you know there would be like I remember being the

1048
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 1: face of Soby for a minute, and then the face

1049
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: of Dove and these kind of things. But those opportunities

1050
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: were coming because of the way Gossip Girl hit. So

1051
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: I can't necessarily say, oh because I'm a badass businesswoman,

1052
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: because the opportunities were presented to me to be fair

1053
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: and honest like not like they would have on other shows.

1054
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: So things were really at our fingertips constantly, even whether

1055
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: it was you know, I was having meetings with Drew

1056
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Barrymore and meetings with these great actors to do films

1057
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: and stuff. Because at the time it was two different things.

1058
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: You know, Nicole Kidman wasn't doing TV, Martin Scorsese wasn't

1059
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: so at the time, as much as you wanted to

1060
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: think about your brand and all those things, and it

1061
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: was definitely a conversation and and and and you wanted

1062
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: to grow it. You were also trying to figure out, Okay,

1063
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: like how am I gonna smash and grab? Yes, exactly,

1064
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: you are utterly relevant and at least you are. You

1065
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't know. You don't know how this is going to be.

1066
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: You don't know if you're gonna be Macaulay Culkin or

1067
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be Justin Bieber. You're in the moment,

1068
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're you're utterly relevant,

1069
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: totally relevant. So how do you maximize and and and

1070
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: grab all the chips you can? For sure? And there

1071
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: was like different things creatively with like right now, I

1072
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: think I learned to be very honest and fair, probably

1073
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: from twenty nine to now a lot more business wise,

1074
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: I think I was like in the middle of it

1075
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: all and learning and trying to understand. I definitely invested

1076
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: money and made money in certain ways that I'm proud

1077
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: of and other things I'm like, like, I was asked,

1078
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: this is the place to really admit this, my friends

1079
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: laugh at me to invest in Uber, and I remember

1080
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: sitting there they had asked a certain group of people

1081
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: in l A. I get sick to my stomach because

1082
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: I use Uber all the time in l A. I

1083
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: use it during the day. I can't hear. But I

1084
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: don't think I can handle this story. And I just

1085
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: was coming back from New York. I'm gonna be fair

1086
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: and on you know. Yeah, And I sat. I remember

1087
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: sitting at Soho House with a bunch of people, some

1088
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,959
Speaker 1: of the investors, like, and there was a couple of people.

1089
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: There was another girl as well. Um, and I just

1090
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: was like, coming from New York, and I'm like, I

1091
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: just don't understand. You're telling me that people are going

1092
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: to get in a car with a stranger. I just

1093
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I was coming from New York where you

1094
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: put your hand and you've got in a bright yellow cab,

1095
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: Like if that cab is going down an alleyway, it's

1096
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: bright and yellow and people can see it. In my mind,

1097
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: it didn't make sense. Girl, And now I could literally

1098
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: I get sick to my stomach when I hit the app. Yeah,

1099
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: but you can't. First of all, this is so weird

1100
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I have not had this experience with

1101
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: another person that's been on this podcast. You need to know,

1102
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: because everyone listening knows. I've never heard me say I'm

1103
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: like converging, I'm I'm much older than you, but like

1104
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: I'm converging with you at this weird point. I remember

1105
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: when Twitter started and I said the same thing about

1106
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: what Ashton's eating. And I will tell you this, on

1107
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: the night that the money transferred, it was March. It

1108
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: was St. Patrick's Day, March. That's the day that the

1109
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: money hit for Skinny Girl. The day that the deal

1110
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: clob was the biggest. I mean, I went from broke

1111
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: and that day my partner at the time, who we

1112
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: were celebrating at a restaurant in Tribeca, he said to

1113
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: me at a restaurant called Acapella, he said, I took

1114
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: this new car thing too. I don't even know what

1115
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: an act was, and it was the first uber I

1116
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: ever took. And I don't understand what the hell he

1117
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: was even talking about. Okay, I'm not crazy, I literally

1118
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: know so. But it's weird that this is you're saying

1119
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: this because I'm like, I was there too. We're different, ages, different,

1120
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: We're coming into this point for sure. But I will

1121
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: say my friend was like, when you know this person,

1122
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: this name blah blah blah is asking you to invest,

1123
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: you just do it. It doesn't matter what it was,

1124
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: because this person was very smart and very good and

1125
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: and then all the details and all the numbers and stuff.

1126
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: I was like looking at it and I'm like, wow,

1127
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: this is wild. But I'm like I still just him

1128
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: coming from New York. I just don't see like a

1129
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: girl leaving a bar and getting in a car with

1130
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: a stranger that no one knows what you know, what

1131
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, even when they were like but the it

1132
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: of the Applebee, even if it was tracked the time,

1133
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't even what it is now where you can

1134
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: literally have to show that you're wearing a mask and

1135
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: show that like you're rating and right have you know,

1136
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: because things grow and things and then all of a sudden,

1137
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: like seven years later, girl it was like seven billion

1138
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: dollars or something crazy like the fastest girl it was.

1139
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: It was crazy? Well it did did did? Did you

1140
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: leave millions on the table or crazy numbers? Because I

1141
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: had one experience it was millions. It was millions because

1142
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: the amount that they that I could have given for

1143
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: what how it made Yeah, I mean and there's like

1144
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: times I don't want to like even have this conversation,

1145
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't. It is what it is. It's part

1146
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: of who you are for sure. And that taught me

1147
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: stuff though, So now when business things, you know, like

1148
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: you should see Brad as me buying houses left and right,

1149
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: like that's that's what I was going to say on

1150
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: the other and um, we're very into real estate, like

1151
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: we literally and it's awesome, but say, yeah, and that's

1152
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: like one of the best investments too. But I without

1153
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: learning some of those things, I wouldn't. You know, even

1154
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: Brad is like, do not have that conversation about uber

1155
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: with me because he's very smart with his money and

1156
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: very good at stuff. But it taught me. And and yeah,

1157
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: when people present things to me and things like that,

1158
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: I definitely have. But you can't. You can't know everything.

1159
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of those that would have failed.

1160
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: I checked the when I was getting paid for Housewise,

1161
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: I checked the wrong box, Like I forget if it wasn't.

1162
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: They didn't want you to be an S Corporate. You

1163
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: had to be an S Corporate and LLC or an Inc.

1164
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't remember. But to get paid by Bravo, they

1165
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: said you have to check this other box and go

1166
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: through your lawyer, which I didn't even have our account,

1167
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: and do it the Southern way. I never unchecked that box.

1168
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: That box cost me multiple million dollars when I sold,

1169
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: and I realized the day after doing the deal. I

1170
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: was sitting on the elliptical in that apartment in the city,

1171
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know why it clicked. Something happened. I

1172
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: was like, wait a second, if that's the story, then

1173
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: that's millions of You couldn't claw back, you couldn't uncheck

1174
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: it. It It was a box check. That's millions and millions

1175
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: of dollars attacks. Oh my god, Well, anyone listening check

1176
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: that box, check the right, make sure you know the box.

1177
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: But you're right now. It would be more expensive, these

1178
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: errors would be more expensive for you. So we live

1179
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: and we learn. And also, you were building the plane

1180
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: while flying it. When you're the talent, it's very challenging

1181
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: to also be a CEO of President B. And this

1182
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: isn't only for actors. I'm saying to people at home,

1183
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to be the salesperson, the charisma, the you know,

1184
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and then also be minding the books

1185
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: and many people, whether it's people they're hiring to be

1186
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: a team or having partners, you want people that are

1187
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: not the same as you. So meaning if you have

1188
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: to surround yourself with people that have totally different skill sets.

1189
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: It's very hard for me to have to worry about uh,

1190
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: infrastructure in my business and the weeds, which I do

1191
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: all day long, because it's taking me away from being

1192
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: the talent, the entertainer, the connector. So you must have

1193
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: the same thing. You're trying to be a mom and

1194
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: a business person, and there's not in a fucking hours

1195
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: and my goddamn day, there just aren't no and one

1196
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: thing that I struggle with which I'm not when I

1197
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: say people, please, are I say that lightly? I'm someone

1198
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: because I was the oldest of five kids. I really

1199
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: want everyone to be okay, and I want you know,

1200
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: I want to be making the dinner and doing this

1201
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: so sometimes and it's a very big part of being

1202
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: a business person or woman, I think, and you you'll

1203
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: be able to test to this is being decisive and

1204
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: being okay with like, nope, sorry, not someone's feelings, but

1205
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: like I sometimes I'm so worried to get rid of that.

1206
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: I hope they're okay. That's what I've learned, and that's

1207
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: what I was just wanting for anyone listening to say,

1208
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: you could be the sweet person. You can be sweet

1209
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: and be direct and get ship done. And I that

1210
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. That took me, like I

1211
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: had to realize, like you might get fired if you're

1212
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: not doing that. Like someone didn't answer a call for

1213
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: a job I was supposed to get, and it's somehow

1214
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: backhandedly came to me, like in the back door through

1215
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: my uh internet situation, and I called my team and

1216
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: someone lied to me, and I'm like, well, And that

1217
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: was the moment where I'm like, you can't just like

1218
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: it's it's not okay, she lied and she cost me

1219
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: the job. You're fired and it's okay with that. No,

1220
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: And and you're not getting extra credit points from being

1221
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: est it's not it's not show friends, it's show business

1222
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: and you think you gotta just say it. And but

1223
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: it's personal too. I had a fiftieth birthday party and

1224
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: I invited who I wanted, like who I wanted. And

1225
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: if someone doesn't understand that I'm not good friends with

1226
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: or we're sort of it's okay, Like we can't be

1227
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: everything to everybody. I I'd rather be upfront and direct

1228
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: and good to the people that I'm good too, and

1229
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: not I'm not a big word mintser I'm not you know,

1230
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not a Big four player, which may not

1231
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: be great, but but it in in the sense of

1232
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: trying to run a business and and make money and

1233
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: and make good products and good things out there, you

1234
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: have to be that way. It's you don't have to

1235
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: be mean and you don't have to like hurt someone's feelings.

1236
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: I was always worried like, oh my god, this and that,

1237
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: and once you let that go, So anyone that's listening,

1238
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: that's like, I'm worried about that. You You've got to

1239
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: be decisive and you've gotta be okay with like saying

1240
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: no for one yes and and not being worried about

1241
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: not someone's feelings. I'm not saying be an asshole, but

1242
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: you you have to be okay with like sometimes it's

1243
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: it is what it is. It is what it is. This, yes,

1244
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Well, it's funny because I

1245
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: with I was talking to my staff recently and with

1246
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: this new world of COVID and people have been working

1247
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: from home, and it's almost like not working from home

1248
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: is shocking to some people, like you know, working huming

1249
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: to work like we used to do. And so I'll

1250
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: say I said last week, I said listen. I want

1251
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: everyone to be happy and everyone's ever work life bounced,

1252
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: but we are. It is a job, and a job

1253
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: means there are days that it's like you're not happy

1254
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: and then it's terrible and I'm not always gonna be

1255
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: in a great mood and things aren't always gonna go great.

1256
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: But back in my day, we I killed Mike. I can't.

1257
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: I just said, back in my day, but I used

1258
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: to work six days a week. I worked just I

1259
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: was so happy to have a job. It wasn't the

1260
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: way that it is now, where everybody's so sensitive about

1261
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: everybody else's feelings and everyone is saying, you know, so

1262
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: it's good. I'm glad that I'm evolving in that way

1263
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: to be uh more sensitive in the in like a

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Speaker 1: more touchy feeling than I used to be because I

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00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: came come up working for Jerry Bruckheimer, working for Kathy Hilton,

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Speaker 1: working for Laura Michaels like just hardcore people that it

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00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: just was like, you know that I wasn't. I wasn't

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00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: a sensitive. I'm just used to like, it is what

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00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: it is. It isn't what it isn't I have no

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00:58:52,120 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't take things personally, so what is your business now?

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00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: So you're work what are you working on? Acting? And

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00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: then what is where does that converge with business? Like,

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 1: what's going on besides acting? What the money you're making

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00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: when you're not on camera and you're sitting home with

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00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: your baby, not on on set. So I've been working

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Speaker 1: on a show called The Orville, will come out on

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Speaker 1: Hulu in March, UM, which is created by Seth McFarlane

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00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: and he's just brilliant, amazing, and it's a futuristic show. UM.

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: And because of the pandemic and just how hard this

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00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: that show is to shoot, it took us quite a while,

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00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: so that'll be airing UM. And then I got pregnant,

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: became a mom, and I'm working on some things in

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00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: them mom's space um right now. And then I decided

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00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: to produce and do the podcast UM. And there's a

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00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: lot of like branding situations that we've got cooking. UM.

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Speaker 1: One idea uh that I've been working on for like

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Speaker 1: six years that I'm hoping we'll come um into into

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Speaker 1: the world very soon. Uh. And it's wonderful, lovely. I

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01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: can't really say anything yet. Oh yeah, you'll be one

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01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: of the first to know when I can um, and

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01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: that's like kind of um, just something that is like

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01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: near and dear to my heart, but also that every

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: person can use and it's awesome. So but it's taken

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01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: so long. And that was what I was going to

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01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: say to you. I was listening to one of your episodes,

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people in the business world,

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: when you come up with an idea, of people think, oh,

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: I have this great idea and it's just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you go here and you get the people to you know,

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01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: invest in it. That it's just not that. That's actually

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01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: like you're so far. And I don't mean to crush

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01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: anyone's dreams or anything like that. I'm telling you from

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01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: experience and things like that, there's a lot of good

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01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: ideas out there, and if it's not done, it's because

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: it's not just an idea and and getting someone to

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01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: finance it or do that. There's so many more layers

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: to it, and you really have to be knowledgeable about it.

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01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: It's not just like you need to know every single

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: little thing. Oh my god, But do you get what

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01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think a lot of people are like, oh,

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01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: I have this idea, Hey, can you give me money,

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01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, well what about this. If you ask

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you five questions and you don't know

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: in detail how to answer them, you by it's just

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Speaker 1: not gonna work. It's not about the idea. Everybody has

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Speaker 1: an idea. Everyone's worried about the idea being stolen. It's

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01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg executed that idea. Whether those winkle Us twins had

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Speaker 1: it all so, it doesn't matter Mark Zuckerberg executed. So

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Speaker 1: but that being said, it's six years into this thing.

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Speaker 1: The idea wasn't I remember at one point I'm like

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01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: then that was me learning. I'm like, okay, it's not

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01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: just this person. I had people that wanted to invest

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: and put millions here and do this. It was way more.

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: I had to be very knowledgeable, almost not get a

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01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: degree in something, but it felt like it because I

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01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: was having learned so much about it that I'm like,

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01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: I might just literally went to college to know about

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Speaker 1: this product and all the things that go with it.

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Speaker 1: Um Man, that's like a true thing, and I think

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01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: that's very important for anyone that wants to create something

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01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: or wants to have a business and something. It's it's

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Speaker 1: not just the idea unfortunately, And it's like you said,

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Speaker 1: but I really think that that's a big part of this. No,

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Speaker 1: not unfortunately because actually not unfortunately because it should be

1335
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Speaker 1: correct because you see how much most people don't want

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Speaker 1: to work hard. Most people have an idea and then

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01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: they sit back. You know, it's so hard. There were

1338
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: a hundred other women that were on the Housewives having

1339
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: ideas and putting brands in, whether they were real or not.

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01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: They don't just pop off because you stick in front

1341
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: of a cat television camera. You have to nurture it's

1342
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: a baby. Nurture it, feed it, you know, cloth it,

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01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: check in with it and know it inside and out

1344
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: that no matter what, and if something were to go wrong,

1345
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: how do you fix it? What do you do? How

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01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: do you build it back up? It's a baby and

1347
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: it gets older and gets more mature, but you still

1348
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: have to always check back in and be aware of

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01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: what's going on with that child. You have babies, and

1350
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: then you have adolescents, and it really is like all

1351
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: your businesses are diff different ages at different cloth stages.

1352
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: So that and then Brad has me um really just

1353
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: looking into real estate, which has been super fun to

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: do with him. Um in different places and stuff, and

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01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: he just is very good at knowing the market, so

1356
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm learning that as well. But um, at one point,

1357
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, Babe, let's just like live in these places

1358
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: or runt these ones out, but let's just chill for

1359
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: because at one point where this is like too fun,

1360
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but it's it's good and you're with your show.

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: Is what's it called? It's um the Rville the podcast.

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01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: The podcast is XO x O, which also Brad came

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01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: up with. We were trying to come up with the name.

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Speaker 1: He's like, it's x O x O and he's never

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01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: really seen Gossip Girl. He's like, isn't that like the

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: punch line. I'm like, yeah, that's actually really great, and

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: he said and I to me, I'm like, it's hugs

1368
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: and kisses. Everyone knows that. And I really wanted to

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01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: be a warm place where you come and take a

1370
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: walk down memory lane and find out the behind the

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01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: scene stories of what was challenging, what was fun, what

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Speaker 1: we did. I mean, New York City opened up to

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01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: us on a level that, like with a few of

1374
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: the cast members that came on and did episodes we

1375
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: talked about were like literally it didn't matter if it

1376
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: was Madonna at Madison Square Garden or some art gallery

1377
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: or any restaurant or venue or whatever. It was that

1378
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to be a little part of the show.

1379
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: So they just and we were in our early running around,

1380
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: no social media all. Like I dated one of the

1381
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: guys for a couple of years and that was like

1382
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: a crazy fun experience and we're still friends to this day.

1383
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: But I and I made some friends that I'll have

1384
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: for lifetime. So it wasn't even just about what all

1385
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: came um as a career. You're part of like a

1386
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: high school play, for sure, and it was like yeah,

1387
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: and being able to live in New York City in

1388
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: my early twenties and get paid an artist. It was great.

1389
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: It was a little scary too, because the show hit

1390
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: in a way, and you know, we were followed and

1391
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: there was pop and you know that life and and

1392
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: when you're just yeah, and when you're just doing being

1393
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: an actor and just you're hoping that that the pilot,

1394
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, gets picked up, and then it does, and

1395
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it hits and you're like,

1396
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: why are we getting written about? And why are paparazzi outside?

1397
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: So there was like a lot of different things that

1398
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: we for me at the time that like was new

1399
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: and and and I learned. You know, you're also learning

1400
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: in your twenties. You think you know all the ship

1401
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: you don't. Um. So there was just a lot of

1402
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: like beautiful, amazing things, scary things, fun things. But I

1403
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: mean to be able to live in New York City

1404
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: and get paid to work on a show about fashion

1405
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: and and you know, all the drama and the storylines

1406
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: were so fun to play and work with. It was great.

1407
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: And and to my grads for life time and Layton

1408
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: just came on and worked on the Orville with us,

1409
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: which was awesome. Um. And yeah, you must have cried

1410
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: the last day. You must have all bald, Like I

1411
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: left a little bit early, and it was it was

1412
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: like a weird thing because you're sometimes like Ed and

1413
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: I were talking about this. He came he played Chuck

1414
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: Bass and just did an episode and he was saying,

1415
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: like there was a time just where like we were

1416
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: all ready to move on to the next chapter. But

1417
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: he's like, when I like reflect and look back now,

1418
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: He's like, that was like some of the best times

1419
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: in our life. And we just also because of no

1420
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: social media and all that. There was a little bit

1421
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: of mystery and quietness. Even though there was you know,

1422
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: we were in this like cement jungle, there was still

1423
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: like some stuff that people didn't see or no you know, um,

1424
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: but we had a good time and and basically the

1425
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: XO XO is a walk down memory lane. And some

1426
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: of the cast and crew and fashion people in music

1427
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: come on and we talked about like why it worked,

1428
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: why people liked it so much, and and all the

1429
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: fun that we had. And it's really it's just it's

1430
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: it's a walkdown memory lane basically. Well but interesting because

1431
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: many show those it's a hit or miss thing. Many

1432
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: shows five people are super successful after and on and

1433
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: and working actors, and then others nobody is. And if

1434
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: you look at your show, look at Blake Lively And

1435
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: I just watched, well, Adam Brodie has in a relationship

1436
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: with my so he's not they're not together. I can

1437
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: I can just connect to him as if he was

1438
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: on the show. But I just watched him on Startup

1439
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: and I think I might be having him on here,

1440
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: I asked him. But still there were you know, people

1441
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: have been fairly successful after the show. Yeah, I mean,

1442
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: Chase was just nominated for an Emmy. Layton went and

1443
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: did Broadway. Um yeah, I mean Pen's show on Netflix

1444
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: is one of the number one shows Taylor went and

1445
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: it's like did amazing in the music world, like broke

1446
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: records in the rock rock field. I mean, yeah, it's amazing.

1447
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: So that's that's all good energy? There are you? Um?

1448
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: Is your show on my heart? Well? Because I have

1449
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: three things I want to talk to you about that

1450
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: we could talk about later, but we'll let the viewers

1451
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: in on a little secret just because not a secret,

1452
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: just because they probably like to be inside baseball. One

1453
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: is I just sold a movie and I was thinking

1454
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: about who could play the girl, and we were talking

1455
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: about it and when we get off, I'm going to

1456
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 1: email your name. Oh my god, I love that because

1457
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: it's a great. It's a great It will be like

1458
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: a streamer movie, so no one knows it and I'm

1459
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: not even saying what it is because it's not a

1460
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: thing yet. But that's what please, I mean, I would.

1461
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: I want to work with you on many levels. But

1462
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: that's fucking awesome that you're doing that. Can I say

1463
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: that well too? Because I'm looking at Yeah, you can two,

1464
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at you in your dark hair and

1465
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: you you we have a lot of similarities. I don't

1466
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: know anything about you. Um, is that I've been looking

1467
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: I have different cocktail uh concepts that are you know,

1468
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: signed deals and whatever. And I've been looking for short

1469
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: of the younger me to be involved. And you know,

1470
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: so it's not all on me, but a young person

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Speaker 1: who speaks to a younger audience. So that's just another thing.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would talk to you. But and then

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Speaker 1: the third thing is and I people I'm saying because

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01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: I haven't said this to anybody, is we're both on

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01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: I Heart and I'm producing. I have at least two

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01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: more podcasts coming. Maybe we do a show together about

1477
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: like just coming at you know, womanhood from totally different

1478
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: ages and angles and then and and figuring it out

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01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: and learning and how to do it. Yeah, because we

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: talk very well together and we seem to be different. Yeah,

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01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: there's all all of a sudden like this like thing

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01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: in the middle where we keep like with the Twitter,

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01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: with the uber with the exactly um, and I think

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Speaker 1: what I've learned about some things that I'm like, oh, this,

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01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: this and this. You're like, yeah, I just feel like

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01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: there was a lot of things where our minds connected.

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: Even if we come from two very different paths. Well

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Speaker 1: that's the whole thing we could it would be good

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: for we were the same and where I'm older and

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01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: I've been through some things from a different angle that

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01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: you have, so anyway, but we converge in the entertainment

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: space too, So I'm gonna talk to conn all about that,

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01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: to talk to you about. Yeah, and I've never said

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01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: any of this to anyone. It's just interesting. Yeah, I

1495
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: connected with you. I love that. I just got like chills. Yeah,

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: it's really nice. So I don't I didn't even look

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01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: at any of this paper about you, but I don't

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 1: think it really well. Your daughter, Bowie, that's so beautiful Bowie,

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01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: Ella Richardson. Yes, it was the beginning of the pandemic.

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know as pregnant, and we decided to rent

1501
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: um these vans. Jesus, you already had a baby during

1502
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: the pandemic. This pandemic has been so long. You gave

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01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: birth already, Jesus, and she and our van's name was Bowie,

1504
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: so it was like Bowie dropped in something else. So

1505
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: when I was pregnant, a couple of months in we

1506
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: didn't know what we were having, and Brad again came

1507
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: up with the name and was like, what if it's

1508
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: Bowie boy or girl? Because I'm like, oh my god,

1509
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: that's so cute. But I'm like, let's not. That's such

1510
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: a nice name. And then Ella because we met. I

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: first of all loved the name Ella. But we met

1512
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: at Coachella. So he was saying where the city he

1513
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: said one night when we were like a week before,

1514
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: so he said, what about Bowie? Is it in India?

1515
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: Where India? He's like, well, that's where we met, and

1516
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm like no, And then I said, what about Ella?

1517
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: Like Coachella but Ella, So it's it's that. But I

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01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: always loved Ella. That's amazing. That's why we need a

1519
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: show together because I would literally Coachell's my idea of Hell.

1520
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: It's where like swede fringed bags and staded jean short

1521
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: hippie clothes go to die. It's literally when it's Coach. Oh,

1522
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: it's Coach, It's fashion Week, it's our buzzle, it's what's

1523
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: the other one? Burning Man? I named my child man.

1524
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: I named my daughter Matt why because we met a

1525
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: burning man? We need other Yeah, like, are you going

1526
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: this year? I'm like, I don't think I could go

1527
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: have a one year old shell? Well no, just put

1528
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: it in like a Swain pepose with mock Hares and Bringer. Yeah. Bringer.

1529
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: Of course she was born there, she was conceived. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, it was amazing to meet you. I

1531
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: literally didn't read anything that was on my list from

1532
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: you except that you love Cheetos and my daughter Brenn

1533
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: loves flame and hot Cheetos. I sense we'll be talking again,

1534
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: for sure. You're amazing, You're inspiring. I like how real

1535
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: and honest you are, and I really truly think I

1536
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: can learn a lot from you, and I think we'd

1537
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: have fun together one way. So um, all right, well,

1538
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: thank you for being totally open. Good luck with everything.

1539
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: We'll talk soon. And I really preciate you. So that

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01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: was awesome. All right, So that was beyond amazing. And

1541
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I we literally have nothing in common,

1542
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: but we have everything in common. I loved her. I

1543
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: only I loved that show. But I mean, I don't

1544
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: know a thing about Jessica's or until today, and I

1545
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 1: had the best time. I literally asked her to do

1546
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: a podcast together with me. So now I have to

1547
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: call the head of I heard, who will absolutely say yes,

1548
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: because it's hard to say no to me. But more importantly,

1549
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: we had such a great connection that I hope I

1550
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: get to do more with her, so yippie um. And

1551
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: I just loved her. It was. It speaks for itself.

1552
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: What a great conversation, What a great person, with a

1553
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: great mother, with a great woman, what a great partner.

1554
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: And I'm excited. That was really invigorating. Yea, And thank

1555
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: you for listening and rate, review and subscribe. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Have a good day.