Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets Twirl, the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: recap hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want
Speaker 1: to dance, and have now seen five episodes of Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle has
Speaker 1: joined the cast for season thirty four, we're going all in.
Speaker 1: We are Wilfredell and Ryder Strong aka the two dudes
Speaker 1: standing next to Topanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka the
Speaker 1: Daniettes Hi Will Hi Rider. How was it being a
Speaker 1: dan Yete in person?
Speaker 2: The in person dan Yete is definitely different than the
Speaker 2: non in person dan Yete. So for the experience of
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, it's wonderful to go there. I
Speaker 2: mean the vibe, the energy, getting to see everybody from
Speaker 2: the cast, it was so much fun. I had the
Speaker 2: best eat in the house, like early, the best seat
Speaker 2: of the house. It was the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: You were to see we were last time right like.
Speaker 2: No, so we were in the second we were in
Speaker 2: the second row. I was on the floor this time,
Speaker 2: I was in Gensen seat. Remember where Jensen was sitting
Speaker 2: where It's like that one right there. So everybody's walking
Speaker 2: by me, I was, I'm in every shot I was.
Speaker 2: It was like there was three shots. It was the
Speaker 2: dancers and me. But to see the actual dancing, it's
Speaker 2: better on TV interesting because you can't. There's times where
Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, that dance didn't look that good,
Speaker 2: and then I watched on TV it was like, oh no,
Speaker 2: that wasn't bad. So again, as an experience, it's like
Speaker 2: a sporting event. You know, you go see a professional
Speaker 2: basketball game or a football game. You go for the
Speaker 2: entire experience. If you want to actually see what's happening
Speaker 2: in the game, better you watch it on TV.
Speaker 3: So that's that's what I felt.
Speaker 2: But I got me, got to hang out with Alex
Speaker 2: and Trina and Rusty and Betsy and Bill and Bonnie
Speaker 2: and it was a ton of fun. And you see
Speaker 2: all the stars. Dennis Quaid is there, and you know,
Speaker 2: I talked to Grant Show from uh the Grant Show
Speaker 2: was on mel Rose Place forever and he and I
Speaker 2: did a show together. But when I did an episode
Speaker 2: of True Blue when I was eleven, so I haven't
Speaker 2: seen this guy since I was eleven years old.
Speaker 3: He's like high fiving me but pretending to remember me.
Speaker 3: It was really sweet.
Speaker 2: So I mean again for the experience, and like we
Speaker 2: talked about the first time dressing up, and you know,
Speaker 2: this time because we were quote unquote celebrities. We weren't
Speaker 2: just Danielle's friends. We were backstage in the VIP area,
Speaker 2: so we're meeting all the dancers and all this stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so get rid.
Speaker 3: Of rider, you get better, better benefits. So it was,
Speaker 3: it was great.
Speaker 2: But you were very much missed for not by me
Speaker 2: so much, but everybody else really missed you quite a bit.
Speaker 2: So so Justine and everybody. Betsy looks stunning, Trina looks stunning.
Speaker 2: Alex days Are is the single coolest human being that
Speaker 2: I've ever met in my life, of course. And then
Speaker 2: there's Rusty, who sitting next to Rusty at this at
Speaker 2: times was like sitting next to you at things like this,
Speaker 2: where Rusty's like, there's an awful lot of clapping. Wait,
Speaker 2: oh wait, we're standing again.
Speaker 1: People really seem to care about it.
Speaker 3: And then he's like asking me stuff. He's like, okay,
Speaker 3: why why why? Now? Why did that matter?
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I think because she's the host
Speaker 2: and she hasn't danced in a while, Okay, And so
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I was the Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars expert, which was weird. Yes, so I I was,
Speaker 2: you know, helping, helping Rusty kind of figure everything out
Speaker 2: as we all Right.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm really curious to hear how the perspective changed
Speaker 1: based on being in the room versus because I'm always
Speaker 1: shocked by like watching it on TV and you see
Speaker 1: like what you think is the best dance, and then
Speaker 1: a cust of the audience and there's just sort of
Speaker 1: like tepid gold class yeah, claps going on, and then
Speaker 1: the advice versa where you're like, that was okay, but
Speaker 1: everyone's on their feet.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how was it in the room? Oh my god,
Speaker 2: Well I can tell you in the room, I was
Speaker 2: angry at home.
Speaker 3: I was furious.
Speaker 2: So we'll get into that. Okay, Oh, calling some doubt today.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, the theme for the episode was Dedication Night.
Speaker 1: Quite a swing from Disney to Dedication.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Dedication kind of different.
Speaker 1: My god. It went from like fun and games to
Speaker 1: like tears, death sadness. But for me, man, this episode
Speaker 1: was just by far the coolest in terms of the dancing.
Speaker 1: The dance agree with you, It was so emotional and
Speaker 1: it felt personal, and.
Speaker 2: I was just like, yes, so, and I thought some
Speaker 2: of the prettiest dances we've seen all season were absolutely
Speaker 2: I mean there was a couple dances where it was like, wow,
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about dance. I don't particularly like dance,
Speaker 2: and I could watch that for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, I felt the same way, man, Ye all right,
Speaker 1: So we started off with Andy Richter and Emma Slater.
Speaker 1: Andy dedicated it to his daughter Cornelia, the cutest ador
Speaker 1: thing in the world, and this, you know, immediately I
Speaker 1: was like, this is a great way to start the night.
Speaker 1: You know, Andy's clearly on the bottom in terms of dancing,
Speaker 1: but who cares. It was so fun and to his credit,
Speaker 1: like I finally felt like his legs were not holding
Speaker 1: him back the way it had been in other weeks.
Speaker 1: I was watching his feet and I was like, he's committing,
Speaker 1: He's going for it. And I also think something about,
Speaker 1: you know, caring about his daughter being there. You could
Speaker 1: tell all this energy was on her, which is a
Speaker 1: good place to be, I think, getting out of his
Speaker 1: own head having fun. I thought this was lovely, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very, very different from what came after in terms
Speaker 1: of you know, complexity of the dance moves and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So Andy's just hanging on by charm. He's
Speaker 1: hanging on by charm.
Speaker 2: He also the judges were like carry in was like,
Speaker 2: I see the progress. I actually see you dancing now,
Speaker 2: this is great. The scores weren't reflective, but they were
Speaker 2: all very positive about Andy and his dance journey. Let's
Speaker 2: keep that in mind as we move forward. That totally
Speaker 2: Andy and his dance journey. Very very positive about Andy
Speaker 2: and everything that he's doing.
Speaker 1: Right, but he did achieve like a fluidity that he
Speaker 1: hadn't achieved. Agree, So he was dancing.
Speaker 3: He was dancing.
Speaker 1: Yes, six is across the board again, Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: kind of his standard thing right now. Who was the
Speaker 1: extra judge this week? I didn't quite understand.
Speaker 3: It was the blonde lady. What the blonde lady?
Speaker 4: Yeah, dancing Kim Johnson was a professional on Dancing with
Speaker 4: the Stars years ago.
Speaker 2: There you go, That's what I was gonna say, gotcha
Speaker 2: professional blond lady Kim. It's Kim with a y too,
Speaker 2: which puts it to a whole different Yeah, yeah scenario.
Speaker 1: Well, she was great. I liked hearing some new new
Speaker 1: voice in there.
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So all right, So Andy.
Speaker 3: And I have I have a question for you with this.
Speaker 2: Now he's getting all sixes every week, do you think
Speaker 2: at this point it's working to his benefit to be
Speaker 2: getting lower scores because people are like, come on, you
Speaker 2: keep giving him six this, I'm going to vote for him.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I mean we're still in the zone of
Speaker 1: like there are the professional dancers who are clearly going
Speaker 1: to be the top three, top four or five who
Speaker 1: are not stars, right, sorry, Like I was watching this
Speaker 1: with a friend who had never seen the show before
Speaker 1: is an actor, and he was like, he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, so they're gonna start with Andy, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna put Danielle near the back of the lineup because
Speaker 1: those are the only actual stars. It's left and dance.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I kind of you know
Speaker 1: everyone they are celebrities, I guess, but you know they
Speaker 1: the TikTok dancers. I'm totally with you now that I'm like,
Speaker 1: but you're a dancer, like this is what you do,
Speaker 1: or you're you're a Mormon wife who dances. Correct, That's
Speaker 1: not the same thing as being an actor who dances.
Speaker 1: Or an entertainer in some other capacity who dances. It's
Speaker 1: so it seems a little Yeah, I guess it's two
Speaker 1: different shows. It's just two different shows.
Speaker 2: And I also think they can't change the title, but
Speaker 2: they should moving forward to something like Celebrity Dance Contest
Speaker 2: because it's not you're not none, they're not stars, they're celebrities.
Speaker 3: And again that's fine.
Speaker 2: The word celebrity is different now and TikTok celebrity is
Speaker 2: a thing and Instagram celebrities totally understand that reality show
Speaker 2: celebrity is a thing, not.
Speaker 1: Stars dancing with the influencers.
Speaker 3: Oh there go love it all right.
Speaker 1: And then we went into Robert Irwin and Whitney. Yeah, dude, dude,
Speaker 1: this was just tears for me from start to finish.
Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't control it. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you know. We talked about how Robert started
Speaker 1: off kind of too strong and had to kind of
Speaker 1: pull it back a little bit and be more technical,
Speaker 1: and then I just blew it out of the water.
Speaker 2: This was better than his first dance, which I think
Speaker 2: is difficult to say, but there's something that this is where,
Speaker 2: this is where being at the show really benefits you
Speaker 2: because I got to witness something that no one else
Speaker 2: got to see. So during he's sitting down on the stage,
Speaker 2: he's facing forward in his start position, and then there's
Speaker 2: his dance partner, Whitney behind him, who's stunning and amazing
Speaker 2: and incredible, and they're playing the pre show package behind
Speaker 2: him and all of us in the audience are watching
Speaker 2: the pre show package.
Speaker 3: She knows he can't.
Speaker 2: Hear this because of the dance there to do, so
Speaker 2: she's kneeling behind him covering his ears. Wow, because she
Speaker 2: did not want him to hear his mom talking and
Speaker 2: lose it emotionally. So she's holding onto him from behind
Speaker 2: and covering both his ears, and he's like muttering to himself.
Speaker 2: He's like he's like saying something to himself, and she's like,
Speaker 2: stay focused, you just don't get up. And so that
Speaker 2: going to the show for things like that is really
Speaker 2: cool because again I am literally three feet away from them,
Speaker 2: I'm six inches from the stage, and he's muttering to
Speaker 2: himself and she's just holding his ears as we're all
Speaker 2: already crying watching the package and literally thinking to myself,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's brilliant. You can't I'm not letting
Speaker 2: you hear this. I'm not letting you hear anything I say.
Speaker 2: It was a really incredible moment. And then the dance
Speaker 2: started and it was just so there's a moment in
Speaker 2: the dance where he they're both on the ground and
Speaker 2: they both I'm going to use a term that I
Speaker 2: think it is, but I don't know what it is,
Speaker 2: they bridge up. So he kind of bridges up and
Speaker 2: he's directly in front of me and I'm a foot away,
Speaker 2: two feet away at most, and his face, his eyes
Speaker 2: are distant, and they're away.
Speaker 3: He doesn't see the audience. I can tell.
Speaker 2: It's like watching in this actor in the zone. He
Speaker 2: was just in the moment, and I just had this
Speaker 2: shiver and I was like, oh my god. It was
Speaker 2: He was a professional dancer that night, telling exactly the
Speaker 2: story he wanted.
Speaker 3: That was amazing to me. That truly was amazing to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this was a contemporary dance, which is a
Speaker 1: category I don't think we've seen up until tonight. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, right, But it was the majority of
Speaker 1: the dances were contemporary, which I guess means free for all,
Speaker 1: just expressive dancing, more sort of storytelling, and man, I
Speaker 1: love this. I it's more of a contemporary dance person
Speaker 1: because it's all about the story you're telling. It's all
Speaker 1: about the expressiveness of your body to the music, and
Speaker 1: I love it and I agree. Just the majority of
Speaker 1: the dances tonight we're contemporary, obviously, because they wanted to
Speaker 1: tell their sort of personal.
Speaker 3: Now, I have a question for producer Tara. Producer, Tar,
Speaker 3: are you there?
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, So you know an awful lot about Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars, and I'm curious about this. Are they
Speaker 2: told the dance style they're going to do or do
Speaker 2: they get to pick the dance style they want?
Speaker 5: They're usually told what they're going to do. They're given
Speaker 5: the style.
Speaker 2: That's really what I figured because and we'll get to it.
Speaker 2: I figured Danielle on a night like this would not
Speaker 2: have picked the jive.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I thought they got to be, you know, because
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 5: They have a say in their songs based on the theme.
Speaker 5: To a certain extent. I think there's also like limitations.
Speaker 4: I don't know too much behind the scenes, but I
Speaker 4: know they are given their dance style.
Speaker 1: That's what I figured, and they can only do every
Speaker 1: dance style once in the course of the st can.
Speaker 5: Do you can do it twice.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they're given like sometimes it is like a redemption
Speaker 4: where it's like, oh, we're going to do the jive again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the line in week nine for.
Speaker 4: Example, Okay, okay, same style twice.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Because I figured if you could pick what you wanted
Speaker 2: for tonight, everyone everybody would have picked something like the
Speaker 2: contemporary to tell a story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it yeah, it was. It was breathtaking.
Speaker 1: For lack of a better, amazing thing. I was tens
Speaker 1: across the board. Just give it to him. What's a tense?
Speaker 1: What what's a ten? Is my question?
Speaker 2: What's a ten?
Speaker 1: I guess maybe they don't even give tens until like,
Speaker 1: you know, right, I think that's what it is, fifteen
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: But this is where the judging really started to piss
Speaker 2: me off. One judge in particular, wo yeah.
Speaker 1: Well because it was a carry anne with an eight.
Speaker 1: An eight, I don't know. I mean, I'm not technically
Speaker 1: savvy enough to see what he possibly could have done better.
Speaker 2: Right, But the three other judges are, and they all
Speaker 2: gave it nine.
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, this is.
Speaker 2: Where I started to go, like, I think some people
Speaker 2: have their favorites. I think they are overly harsh on
Speaker 2: people they don't like and overly generous with people they do.
Speaker 3: And I really saw that with Carrie Inn.
Speaker 1: It's it's human judging, right, yeah, I mean that's the
Speaker 1: thing supposed to They're not robots. They're supposed to be
Speaker 1: responding from human plays.
Speaker 2: So that's why the umpires in baseball need to say
Speaker 2: human beings, because their flaws are part of the game.
Speaker 1: I get, yes, you know, and that's I mean. I
Speaker 1: also just by the time he was talking afterwards to
Speaker 1: the judges and they're all just hugging. Bruno can't even
Speaker 1: keep it together, and they're hugging each other. I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting there at home, like you know, tears streaming. I
Speaker 1: was watching with my parents and and you know, they
Speaker 1: had only seen the first episode when and now, and
Speaker 1: they were like, oh wow, and we were all just
Speaker 1: so emotional. I was like, I can't even judge the
Speaker 1: dance anymore. That was just so beautiful, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: the idea that of course he you know, he could
Speaker 1: have dedicated it to his dad, right, I mean, that's like,
Speaker 1: but by dedicating it to his mom, it was such
Speaker 1: an even more beautiful message really like honors his dad,
Speaker 1: but also is like cele brainon the person who has
Speaker 1: actually been with him the last you know, however many years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing. Again. If I wasn't dead inside,
Speaker 3: which we all know that I am, I.
Speaker 1: Saw you would have been I would have cried at this.
Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't would all right.
Speaker 2: So Sue was a mess by the way there and
Speaker 2: watching it again last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to keep it together. I was just like
Speaker 1: trying to take notes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was gorgeous. Everything about it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then we went to uh, Elaine and Alan,
Speaker 1: which was I mean, that's a tough act to follow,
Speaker 1: by the way, No Jensen.
Speaker 2: Jensen literally leaned over to me and he's like, I'm
Speaker 2: so glad Daniel did not have to go next.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, that's a tough act to follow.
Speaker 1: So Elaine and Alan. Elaine dedicated her dance to her
Speaker 1: best friend and the parent Trap co star Lisa and Walter.
Speaker 1: I thought this was so fun. I love seeing the
Speaker 1: pre show package and their friendship, and then I thought
Speaker 1: the dance was really fun. Yeah me too, you know
Speaker 1: it was it felt like a play. Yeah, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean and remind you again. She's very
Speaker 1: musical theory, and in this case they did a foxtrot,
Speaker 1: so it had its sort of ballroom dance component, but
Speaker 1: all the switching partners and like really involved Lisa in
Speaker 1: a way that you know, a lot of the people
Speaker 1: when they were doing their dedication they didn't involve their
Speaker 1: dedicated person as much. In this case, I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: she's like dancing with them, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: super fun.
Speaker 2: And his spinning in between the two of them and
Speaker 2: like grabbing the one of them then grabbing the other,
Speaker 2: than the three of them together, it really flowed well.
Speaker 3: The choreography was great for this.
Speaker 1: But this is hard to follow the emotionality of.
Speaker 2: The hugely hard but maybe exactly what we needed, like
Speaker 2: a little lighthearted friends dancing around totally different style of
Speaker 2: ballroom dance.
Speaker 3: It was probably perfect at the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got eight, seven, seven and eight. Now so
Speaker 1: here this is where I agree with you that carry
Speaker 1: Anne giving an eight to Robert and Whitney and then
Speaker 1: an eight to Elaine and Allen. I was like, where
Speaker 1: are you coming from?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's like, well, how are you picking?
Speaker 2: Are you just randomly picking numbers? Like, what do you do?
Speaker 1: No, I just you know, she was going from some
Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, it's a different place, right,
Speaker 1: yeah it was, you know, but this was great. This
Speaker 1: was fine, like I said, just kind of hard to
Speaker 1: follow the previous dance, so I I you know, but
Speaker 1: I think any other night, this probably was Elaine's one
Speaker 1: of Elaine's best dances, right, like, compared to all her
Speaker 1: other stuff.
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 2: I think they also again keep in mind eight seven
Speaker 2: seven eight, and we're very positive with their remarks. I
Speaker 2: think Kim gave one kind of maybe do this with
Speaker 2: your hand, but other than that, they're all like, this
Speaker 2: is it.
Speaker 1: Was just with the pen in her hand.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, the pen was later. This was this was
Speaker 2: interesting your your like your hand and around oh right,
Speaker 2: the way she holding his shoulder, holding his shoulder and yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's.
Speaker 1: The kind of stuff I have no idea and.
Speaker 2: Give a great great criticism where I'm like, we again,
Speaker 2: you're right, we don't know any of that. So sitting
Speaker 2: there and listening to like, oh wow, if you just
Speaker 2: move your hand like this, this changes super cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: really cool, but very positive feedback. Yeah, eat that in
Speaker 2: mind again.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love where we're going, all right. Next up
Speaker 1: was Whitney and Mark. This was just amazing. I found
Speaker 1: this so fascinating from a story point of view and
Speaker 1: from a dancing point of view, and how those two
Speaker 1: things were sort of merged because here she is, you know,
Speaker 1: doing a dance that dedicated to her husband, who has
Speaker 1: allowed her to do things like Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: right and been her support system taking care of their
Speaker 1: kids in La, while she's you know, rehearsing all day
Speaker 1: every day with her you know, dance professional partner, Mark.
Speaker 1: And so the way that they incorporated her husband as
Speaker 1: basically a professional dancer doing everything with her, and and
Speaker 1: then you know, sort of taking Mark's place at times,
Speaker 1: and then Mark coming in. I thought this was so
Speaker 1: cool because it was like we're watching them dance out
Speaker 1: the dynamic of Dancing with the Stars. It was like wow,
Speaker 1: like you feel like separated, you know, because you're so busy,
Speaker 1: and then you're involving him. But this is also my
Speaker 1: worst nightmare, Like if my wife was on a dancing
Speaker 1: show and she was like, I want to dedicate it
Speaker 1: to you, and you also have to do all the
Speaker 1: dance you will.
Speaker 2: Yo, But he did it.
Speaker 1: I love this guy. I was like, dude, you permitted.
Speaker 2: I love the concept. I thought the execution. There were
Speaker 2: times they were all off right, and I mean clearly
Speaker 2: off to where I noticed it.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, they talked about her, you know, jumping out
Speaker 1: of sync. Right, yeah, but here's the thing about them
Speaker 1: ending out of sync. But here's the thing that I
Speaker 1: kept thinking, Okay, she has been very technically good every
Speaker 1: other dance, right, She's never been off time. Isn't the
Speaker 1: fact that she was out of sync with her professional
Speaker 1: dancing partner more of an indication of exactly the story
Speaker 1: they were trying to tell, which is that she was
Speaker 1: probably more concerned about her husband's dancing and she was
Speaker 1: more committed to whether he was going to be doing
Speaker 1: a good job than her own dancing, which only furthers
Speaker 1: the story, which is that she's dedicating the night to him.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I think it was on purpose, but that wasn't done
Speaker 2: on purpose, But I don't care.
Speaker 1: I felt it like emotionally, I was like, you're messing
Speaker 1: up because you're concerned about your husband, which is the
Speaker 1: whole point of this dance.
Speaker 2: That's but the more points I thought it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like a beauty up. I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's like I just know.
Speaker 1: But just in my mind, my analytical mind, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what that you know what that says? That
Speaker 1: says that she cares about exactly what she says.
Speaker 2: She cares if they were out of sync on purpose
Speaker 2: to show the storyline, but they were, she was just out.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, and I think it's
Speaker 1: that's so sweet, actually beautiful.
Speaker 2: She's a wonderful professional dancer working with another professional dancer.
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna judge her like everybody else, which
Speaker 2: they aren't, then she messed up. Yeah, okay, so if
Speaker 2: you mess up, how does Carrie Anne give that a
Speaker 2: nine with a clear mess up? When Robert Irwins was
Speaker 2: flawless and that got an eight. That's when you're just going, okay,
Speaker 2: there's no there's no rhyme or.
Speaker 3: Reason to any of this.
Speaker 2: Like, it's just I like you, so I'm going to
Speaker 2: give you a higher score. Maybe I don't like you
Speaker 2: that much. I'm gonna get it. There doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: be anything behind any of it.
Speaker 1: Well what about this? What about this? Because I would
Speaker 1: have given it a nine too. Personally, I think that
Speaker 1: there's there's something to be said for the challenge you
Speaker 1: give yourself, right and like you know, in gymnastics, if
Speaker 1: you do the technical triple backflip versus a double backflip,
Speaker 1: if you pull off a poorly done triple backflip, you
Speaker 1: did you get a higher score? Maybe? Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, no, sure, of course, And I
Speaker 1: think maybe difficult to shout yes. And I think that
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for the difficulty of involving
Speaker 1: a non dancing husband as much as she did and
Speaker 1: and committing to that. And maybe is the yes because
Speaker 1: she could have played it safe. She could have just
Speaker 1: right her husband, show up and bowed to him, you know,
Speaker 1: and then done an amazing but instead she took on
Speaker 1: this huge challenge.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying she did not deserve a nine. I'm
Speaker 2: saying Robert deserved it.
Speaker 1: Mark Ballat like agree, nailed it, no problem tonight with choreography,
Speaker 1: tonight with the because contemporary so much more wide open
Speaker 1: and expressive, and I live beautiful.
Speaker 2: Also, I don't disagree. I'm I'm not saying she deserved
Speaker 2: a lower score. I'm saying the scoring makes no sense
Speaker 2: if he gets an eight for a flawless thing and
Speaker 2: she gets a nine when there's a clear mistake, right
Speaker 2: that even a neophyte like myself can go, Wow, that
Speaker 2: wasn't even close.
Speaker 1: But the other judges also gave eight. So this was
Speaker 1: the highest score of the season at this point in
Speaker 1: the night.
Speaker 3: Oh gave nine. It was it was for nines, right, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's nine eight.
Speaker 1: That's right. So they were all pretty high, like nobody
Speaker 1: you know, it's but again, why what is Carrie Anne
Speaker 1: seeing to where during Roberts it's three nines and she
Speaker 1: gives an eight and this time it's one nine and
Speaker 1: three eighths?
Speaker 2: Like are the three of them wrong? And she's right,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't get the scoring. That's
Speaker 2: what it comes down to. I don't get the scoring,
Speaker 2: and I don't get a lot of the feedback.
Speaker 1: She said at one point in the night that she
Speaker 1: doesn't have kids. Right, yes, okay, to Robert is doing
Speaker 1: to dance about his mother, it's that he's doing a
Speaker 1: dance about her as a dance about her husband and partnership.
Speaker 1: Because of the inverse scores, right, they got She gave
Speaker 1: eight and then they gave they gave nines to Robert
Speaker 1: and then this case she gave nine and they gave eight.
Speaker 2: But I don't think Sarrenk has kids either, and he's
Speaker 2: he's you know, well but going.
Speaker 1: Probably danced with Roberts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like part of the he's like.
Speaker 1: He said, he's like part of the family. I'm so
Speaker 1: proud of you.
Speaker 3: But apparently his wife is pregnant. So that's gotta be
Speaker 3: there you.
Speaker 1: Go, there, you go. Next up Jen Affleck and Yan
Speaker 1: and she dedicated her dance to her mom Maria. This
Speaker 1: was the Viennese waltz. You know, this was again a
Speaker 1: tough act to follow. Yeah, I thought this was fine.
Speaker 1: I kind of like a Viennese waltz. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that is, but I kind of liked.
Speaker 3: This different than a Viennese coffee, which is what.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I wasn't sure about any of the technicality
Speaker 1: regarding this dance, you know, because it wasn't contemporary. It's
Speaker 1: like I sort of have to reset my brain of
Speaker 1: like what am I judging? What am I you know,
Speaker 1: thinking about? And I don't know, it seemed great, you know.
Speaker 2: But here's here's what I'm gonna say, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: sound mean, and I swear to God, I don't mean
Speaker 2: it to come off as mean in any way, shape
Speaker 2: or form. It's just how I feel because it happened
Speaker 2: again last night. She was totally fine. I constantly forget
Speaker 2: she's on the show. Yeah, Like she pops on and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's right, she's on the show, right.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that as to be mean to her.
Speaker 2: She's just a little bit forgettable everything else going on
Speaker 2: around her, and she seems like a perfectly lovely person,
Speaker 2: and her story is very captivating, and the dance was fine.
Speaker 2: But even as I'm sitting here, I saw it live
Speaker 2: and I saw it last night on TV, and I
Speaker 2: kind of can't remember what it was right.
Speaker 1: But imagine if she was an actor from a sitcom
Speaker 1: or had done a show that you would watched, she'd
Speaker 1: be brilliant. That's the thing from me, from our point
Speaker 1: of view, I don't know who she is until we
Speaker 1: started watching the show, and I don't know if she
Speaker 1: has the kind of career that like someone like Danielle
Speaker 1: does or Andy Richter, you know, where you're like watching
Speaker 1: somebody who you can be involved with as a person
Speaker 1: do something very difficult. In this case, I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: a mom of many children and you just had a kid.
Speaker 1: That's cool. But yeah, you're right, I don't have a
Speaker 1: personal connection to her. I don't know when she does
Speaker 1: a good technical dance because she didn't choose as like,
Speaker 1: you know, is her mom, which was great, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it didn't draw me in the same way emotionally story
Speaker 1: wise that the previous dance. Who I also, I don't
Speaker 1: know who Whitney is before this show, but that story
Speaker 1: and the way she was able to convey it with
Speaker 1: the dance between her and her husband really drew me in.
Speaker 1: So it really stood out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it was fine. It was fine, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's perfectly lovely. I've just just kind of
Speaker 2: lost in the pack.
Speaker 1: But I think exactly, and I think she's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be in the bottom. I think, so I think this,
Speaker 1: you know, this was a chance for her to potentially
Speaker 1: really involve us in and make her her story more memorable,
Speaker 1: and instead it was like, she did a good technical
Speaker 1: dance and it was great, So we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was really kind of like annoyed that
Speaker 1: they didn't do any eliminations this week.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad it didn't happen.
Speaker 3: Oh go I was.
Speaker 2: I was a nervous wreck. Yeah, I'm sitting there watching
Speaker 2: them all. They're three feet from me. They don't know
Speaker 2: if they're going home. When she finally finished, I said
Speaker 2: to Danielle, you can't. I know this is not about me,
Speaker 2: but you can't do this to me anymore. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna able to.
Speaker 3: Make it through the end.
Speaker 2: Like it's so, I'm sitting there like shaking with anticipation.
Speaker 3: Oh it was awful. It was awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why do you think they didn't do it
Speaker 1: just because it was so emotional? They didn't want to
Speaker 1: judge anybody based.
Speaker 2: On I think it's one of those things. And producer
Speaker 2: Taram I have said this to me. I don't know
Speaker 2: if somebody said this mean it's true. It's like they
Speaker 2: don't want to send you home on the possibility that
Speaker 2: it was your husband or your wife or your mom
Speaker 2: that made the mistake right where it's like, you know, hey,
Speaker 2: how do you judge somebody who dances with a five
Speaker 2: year old girl and say the dance wasn't any good.
Speaker 3: It's so true, so you can't you can't, Like, so
Speaker 3: do they?
Speaker 1: But they do Dedication Night every season? Do they always
Speaker 1: avoid elimination?
Speaker 2: That's what I asked too, And I think they kind
Speaker 2: of don't, you know, don't do anything, because Jensen said
Speaker 2: to me is like, I was so nervous. I go,
Speaker 2: who do you think is gonna go? He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're ninety nine percent sure no one's going home tonight.
Speaker 3: I was like what.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, Dedication Night. They don't normally send anybody home,
Speaker 2: but they didn't know. And then as they start reading
Speaker 2: the results, he's like, maybe we're wrong, And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh god, so, but no, I think that's kind of
Speaker 2: the norm that they don't send anybody.
Speaker 5: Well, this was also the first year that the person
Speaker 5: they're dedicating to is actually involved, really there, Yeah, these
Speaker 5: years like.
Speaker 4: You didn't have you didn't have like Lisa and Alisa
Speaker 4: and Walter doing a full dance, or you didn't have.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why they want to do it. They couldn't.
Speaker 4: They could have like if like if Andy went home
Speaker 4: and his daughter, you know, she's awful.
Speaker 2: It's like, how do you I can't believe you got
Speaker 2: me kicked off of Dancing with the Stars, you tiny
Speaker 2: little girl, like mom, you did exactly.
Speaker 3: So they kind of go, we're gonna have be have
Speaker 3: a big emotional night.
Speaker 2: Then we'll yeah, now are they gonna do it? I
Speaker 2: wonder if they're gonna do it like they do sometimes
Speaker 2: on some of these reality shows that I'll watch where
Speaker 2: they won't eliminate anybody, and then the next week they
Speaker 2: eliminate limit it too.
Speaker 4: But also in the past we've had like different finales
Speaker 4: where there's been a finale with five, there's been a
Speaker 4: finale with four, so there's been in a finale with three.
Speaker 5: So you actually don't even know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 4: You don't know if there's gonna be a double elimination
Speaker 4: at some point before the finale.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god, it's is just I can't do it.
Speaker 2: That's what the Stars sponsored by Adavan. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't do this anymore. God.
Speaker 1: Jen and Jan got eight seven seven seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: In fact, a little nice.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe could have been seven.
Speaker 1: My assumption is that the technicality of the Viennese waltz
Speaker 1: was was good in order to be maybe yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe all right, next up Dylan Ephron and Daniella. He
Speaker 1: dedicated it to his little sister Olivia, who's tiny, so cute.
Speaker 1: But she talked in the pre show package. I was like,
Speaker 1: why does she talk like a thirty five year old woman?
Speaker 1: Did you notice that? I was like, no, Oh, this
Speaker 1: kid she had such like oh my god, this kid's
Speaker 1: like God, it was so cute. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she's Yeah, there's something about the way she spoke.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're you're you're not five? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe a kid acting just runs in the jeans. It
Speaker 1: was pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: He is so likable, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, this was I mean, like I didn't think
Speaker 1: it could get better than Robert or when No. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've said since the beginning, Daniella is the best dancer
Speaker 1: in the whole bunch. And this was insane. Like there
Speaker 1: were moments in this dance where it felt like she
Speaker 1: wasn't a human being. It was like she was flying
Speaker 1: around him. It was like she had this like magical
Speaker 1: flight ability. It was like she was levitating.
Speaker 2: It was insane, it was magic.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it felt like she had put
Speaker 1: on like a magical dress that was like lifting it
Speaker 1: up and throwing her. I was like, and then he
Speaker 1: was just so stable and like when they did the
Speaker 1: big lift, I was like, oh my god, this is yeah,
Speaker 1: this this is incredible. Yeah, he's also in the room.
Speaker 3: It was that good. It started.
Speaker 2: So during rehearsal, he did the uh Like they were
Speaker 2: just kind of running around the stage like everybody kind
Speaker 2: of runs around the stage. They're kind of practicing a
Speaker 2: little bit, and the two of them just had this
Speaker 2: quick burst of speed where they did the giant burst
Speaker 2: in the twist and soon and I looked at each
Speaker 2: other like, what the hell was that? And then the
Speaker 2: dance started and it was so good. And the little
Speaker 2: girl runs right off like if you watch the thing,
Speaker 2: she runs right to me, Like she literally runs right
Speaker 2: right and falls right in front of me. She jumps
Speaker 2: off the stage and falls. It was the cutest thing.
Speaker 2: She like got up with the giggle. Was the cutest
Speaker 2: thing in the world. But he is also to me
Speaker 2: exactly what this show is about. Whereas you go watch
Speaker 2: his first episode and he's likable and personable, but he's
Speaker 2: stiff and doesn't know what he's doing. He's like a
Speaker 2: dancer now. I mean, he looked so good out there.
Speaker 2: He's obviously out of his own head. He's enjoying learning
Speaker 2: the techniques, and the two of them together are just
Speaker 2: shredding it.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: Hey, I still think Robert Irwin is in the number
Speaker 2: one position. I think I think he solidified it with
Speaker 2: this week. But I think Dylan's a real.
Speaker 3: Close second at this point.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's my I think he's just he
Speaker 2: was so good and she was adorable, and it was
Speaker 2: just this was this was kind of a magical moment
Speaker 2: of the night.
Speaker 1: And I think the match of Dylan and Daniella too
Speaker 1: is really key. Like he's bringing exactly the right energy
Speaker 1: for her form of dance. Like they're just working so
Speaker 1: well together and you can tell they just get along
Speaker 1: and they're on the same page. And yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: this was I mean, you cut nines across the board
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, I mean it would beat the best
Speaker 1: score of the season. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 2: I mean it great, And he is just again, he's
Speaker 2: so he's got this infectious smile about it. Where I
Speaker 2: told you we were got to be in the VIP
Speaker 2: section backstage while we didn't meet him. I just didn't
Speaker 2: want to mess with any of the dancers or any
Speaker 2: of that kind of stuff. You don't want to get
Speaker 2: in anybody's head. Danielle of course, is running around saying everybody,
Speaker 2: and she's just has such poise it's horrifying. But I
Speaker 2: just kept seeing Dylan around the area. He smiles the
Speaker 2: whole time he was. It wasn't like he's not putting
Speaker 2: this on. He's just got a giant smile and a
Speaker 2: good dude.
Speaker 1: And committing to the challenge that he's been faced with
Speaker 1: and working.
Speaker 2: It's great, killing it and killing it. Yeah, he's so likable.
Speaker 2: That's why every reality show wants him. And people are
Speaker 2: just gonna start throwing money at this guy because it's like,
Speaker 2: please please wrap my product, please do this.
Speaker 1: Please do that.
Speaker 3: Because he's just so damn likable, you know.
Speaker 1: And also he's clearly physically capable in a way, like
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been rock climbing, he's younger, he's just
Speaker 1: he clearly can can rise to this challenge physically in
Speaker 1: a way that like.
Speaker 2: Andy Richter can't.
Speaker 1: Right, It's like, yeah, that's fine, but like he's becoming
Speaker 1: a professional dancer in the course of this, which is understandable.
Speaker 2: Like he seems like one of those yeah, like one
Speaker 2: of those guys where if there's he'll be good at
Speaker 2: anything that physicality is involved in. He's that guy where
Speaker 2: it's like, I've never shot a bow and arrow in
Speaker 2: my life, and by the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 2: hitting the bulls eye nine out of ten times. He
Speaker 2: seems like that kind of got up to me and
Speaker 2: he's he's just yeah, he's killing it.
Speaker 1: Then we had Julianne, the host, do a dance with
Speaker 1: the other professional dancers, which is good to see. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it was like yeah.
Speaker 2: And this is where Rusty.
Speaker 3: Rusty leaned over and he's like why why, Why is
Speaker 3: everybody excited? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Why do we care?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, Julianne's the host, and so he said,
Speaker 2: He's like, who's on. I'm like, oh, she's the host,
Speaker 2: and I don't think she's dancing in a while. So
Speaker 2: she's gonna dance with the.
Speaker 3: Whole kind of troup. And he's like, oh, right, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Because are we standing again. I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think we'll probably stand.
Speaker 3: And clap, I think, so you should care, you should
Speaker 3: care y He was just like, why is there? Why
Speaker 3: does everybody care? What am I missing?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. It was cool to see her dance,
Speaker 3: and she's obviously phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I mean I had no idea because I'd never seen
Speaker 2: her dance before except in that movie exactly, but this
Speaker 2: is she was great.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was cool to watch five incredibly beautiful women in
Speaker 2: really beautiful flowing dresses doing a really really beautiful dance.
Speaker 2: I mean aesthetically, there was nothing that was not pleasing
Speaker 2: about watch live or on TV.
Speaker 1: Next up was Jordan and Ezra your favorite but some
Speaker 1: of your favorites, right man?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just love her. Yeah, you know, I just
Speaker 1: think that she's because she could like so easily. Like
Speaker 1: even my dad, who hadn't seen anything since the first episode,
Speaker 1: was like, isn't she a gymnast? Shouldn't she be like
Speaker 1: flipping around? And I was like, no, she's she's trying
Speaker 1: to do something different here, you know. And for me,
Speaker 1: what's really struck, like what's really struck me about Jordan
Speaker 1: is like when they stand next to each other, you
Speaker 1: can see this height difference that's just insane, right crazy,
Speaker 1: But when they're dancing, it never occurs to me. And
Speaker 1: what I was watching her this time, Her arms are incredible.
Speaker 1: She's using her arms compared to how she started, she
Speaker 1: is now making She's accentuating every one of her moves perfectly.
Speaker 1: And that's not a gymnast thing. I mean, obviously it's
Speaker 1: a strength thing, but it's an elegance. It's a and
Speaker 1: I think the judges called it her musicality that's getting better.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, because she clearly has the physical capability,
Speaker 1: but you know, to be able to be expressive with
Speaker 1: your arms and to tell a story and to you know,
Speaker 1: just not to just be a dancer. It was incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I thought this was great. I love seeing her
Speaker 1: dad involved and like, yeah, she did more than half
Speaker 1: the dance with her dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I found this again. I liked the story. I
Speaker 2: like her.
Speaker 3: I found this a little boring if I'm honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with all the other stuff we kind of saw
Speaker 2: in the night, I was kind of like, Okay, it
Speaker 2: was a dance, Like it wasn't bad certainly technically was
Speaker 2: was very pretty. She's so graceful, the way she moves
Speaker 2: She obviously is completely in touch with every aspect of
Speaker 2: her body and knows how to move it, and I
Speaker 2: just I found it a little just a little bit
Speaker 2: boring for me this week.
Speaker 1: All right, So you would have it got eight's across
Speaker 1: the board, you would have given it.
Speaker 2: Less No, No, probably not, because the technicality was there.
Speaker 2: I probably would have given it the same score, but
Speaker 2: it was just a little kind of forgettable for me
Speaker 2: this week, right right, Yeah, I don't think I would
Speaker 2: have changed the score. I don't think it was it
Speaker 2: deserved a seven. I think it deserved eights across the board.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's right about where she would definitely
Speaker 2: was not Dylan. She definitely was not Robert so I
Speaker 2: who is exactly Yeah, exactly exactly. Well Whitney, you know,
Speaker 2: or you know, any given week, you never know. So
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where, yeah, this one to
Speaker 2: me was a little like Okay, there was a dance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the judges commented on how much of a risk
Speaker 1: it was to involve her dad as much as they did,
Speaker 1: and I appreciated that too. It was like, yeah, like
Speaker 1: this is cool for Ezra to you know, because he
Speaker 1: got emotional the pre show packets his father, and so
Speaker 1: I found it super interesting that he was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna let this be there the thing
Speaker 1: and let this guy, who you know, isn't part of
Speaker 1: the competition kind of take over and just be a
Speaker 1: dad in the dance itself. And similar to the Whitney's
Speaker 1: story with her husband, it was like, Oh, the dance
Speaker 1: it's self is kind of telling the story of this
Speaker 1: relationship in a way that is really beautiful.
Speaker 2: By the way, before we go any further, who would
Speaker 2: you dedicate your dance to?
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a way that I could not dance?
Speaker 2: But you you wake up in your hell and you've
Speaker 2: got dedication night.
Speaker 3: Who do you dedicate it to?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Do you have an answer?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would. I would certainly dedicate to
Speaker 3: my wife.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see I also don't have children, I don't,
Speaker 2: you know, so it's like physically wouldn't be able to
Speaker 2: do it, so it would be yeah, I would.
Speaker 3: I would dedicate it to Susan.
Speaker 1: I mean, Indy does. He is actually a very good dancer.
Speaker 1: He doesn't do it, but when he dances, it's like
Speaker 1: he's good. Oh my god, dude, like you should be
Speaker 1: doing this all the time, so that could be fun,
Speaker 1: just to dedicate something to him and let him go crazy.
Speaker 1: Alex is also a very good dancer. Yeah Alex, Alex
Speaker 1: has this.
Speaker 3: She'd make you look bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she probably won. But one of the things I
Speaker 1: love about my wife more than anything is that she
Speaker 1: has the ability to, like almost every wedding we go to,
Speaker 1: at some point she gets the entire dance floor to
Speaker 1: do an interpretive dance with her like she does. It's
Speaker 1: it's the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2: Did she do that at my wedding?
Speaker 1: I don't know if she did. It's one of the
Speaker 1: funniest things. And it starts off as comedy. She always
Speaker 1: starts off as comedy. It's like she's kind of going
Speaker 1: crazy and everybody's like, what is she doing? And by
Speaker 1: the end she's usually involved the bride and the groom
Speaker 1: and she gets everybody following her lead doing like time
Speaker 1: after time as an interpretive dance, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: half jokey, half ironic, but it's also very good and
Speaker 1: it's and she's never planned, she does not have a
Speaker 1: choreograph routine. She's feeling it and it's just so fun.
Speaker 1: It works every time, and like, I just, I just
Speaker 1: And of course I never joined in, but I'm always
Speaker 1: just sitting back watching so proud and in love with
Speaker 1: her expressive capabilities, you know, because she's an artist. She
Speaker 1: can she can sing, she can act, and she can dance,
Speaker 1: and she just does it and she brings it in
Speaker 1: this way. So maybe I would dedicate it to her
Speaker 1: just to let her do.
Speaker 2: I remember her dancing at wedding, and I remember her
Speaker 2: dancing at my wedding, but I don't remember the interpretive dancing.
Speaker 3: So that's that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's she She usually takes the stage for
Speaker 1: a moment and gets everybody go. It's so fun to
Speaker 1: watch her. It's it's an incredible skill, all right. Next
Speaker 1: up was Scott Hoying and Riley, and he dedicated his
Speaker 1: dance to his husband Mark. They announced that they're having
Speaker 1: a baby, which amazing news. Yep, what a way to
Speaker 1: pull on our heart strings.
Speaker 3: Oh it's got brilliant.
Speaker 2: Although I might I might have saved it for a
Speaker 2: week where they are kicking people off. I might have
Speaker 2: saved I don't know if they knew or not, but
Speaker 2: I might have saved that announcement for a week when
Speaker 2: when people are going home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, No, it was a good move, good move, Scott,
Speaker 1: I see you. I thought, you know this this like
Speaker 1: I've talked about how he should be wearing a suit.
Speaker 1: He was wearing a sparkly suit. I loved their sparkles together.
Speaker 1: I thought that was looked great. But this was hard
Speaker 1: to follow. You know, you've had so much yep, more
Speaker 1: expressive contemporary dancing going on. This felt a little traditional,
Speaker 1: felt a little like yeah, sure, but he's come a
Speaker 1: long way, like we've talked about. Yes, So I thought
Speaker 1: this was great and a little bit of a cheat
Speaker 1: to sing at the beginning.
Speaker 3: And I didn't like the singing at the beginning. I
Speaker 3: thought it was a little ante.
Speaker 1: I was like, you got a great voice, and this
Speaker 1: is awesome, but it's not a singing show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little much for me, just the
Speaker 2: whole I'm singing right to you for a song that
Speaker 2: he wrote to him, and it's like, okay, I get it,
Speaker 2: but it's like this is a bit it's a bit.
Speaker 1: Much for me that I know. Yeah, I've also been
Speaker 1: at weddings where people sing to each other at the
Speaker 1: altar and it's the same sort of like, okay, this
Speaker 1: is this is either should be a very private moment
Speaker 1: or a very public moment. When you try and do
Speaker 1: both at the same time, it's like it misses on
Speaker 1: both counts. Yeah, maybe because you're like, this is really personal,
Speaker 1: then I should look away or just listen to it
Speaker 1: or something. And if it's really public, then don't be
Speaker 1: so emotional and looking into I don't know, I get
Speaker 1: a little like.
Speaker 3: I get you.
Speaker 2: It's a little just a little cringe. The singing was
Speaker 2: a little cringey. Love the outfits, Yes, they're obviously very
Speaker 2: much in love with each other, which shows and that's great.
Speaker 2: And the dance was again this I put this again
Speaker 2: with kind of the Jordan one. For me, it was
Speaker 2: like it was fine, it was very much in the middle.
Speaker 2: I thought of what we saw tonight, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: After some of the dances we've seen tough act to follow.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I feel like everybody should have
Speaker 1: done contemporary, like across the boarder. If this many people
Speaker 1: are gonna do it, then everybody should be completely free
Speaker 1: to just do an emotional storytelling dance. And it's because
Speaker 1: every time somebody did a traditional dance like including Danielle,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to if it was like, well, come on,
Speaker 1: like they're still playing it. They're playing a different competition,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean. They're in a different
Speaker 1: thing and they're doing that really well. But because of
Speaker 1: everything else that's happening tonight, it's like, oh God, like
Speaker 1: they don't stand it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get why, and I can understand both arguments.
Speaker 2: But if I was running the show, everybody would do
Speaker 2: the Fox trot on one night. Everybody would do contemporary
Speaker 2: one night everybody, and then you're judging everybody can't.
Speaker 1: Judge them accordingly because you could see the same. Dude,
Speaker 1: that makes so much sense to me. I agree, that
Speaker 1: is a great call. I wish they just yeah, like
Speaker 1: as opposed to like picking themes like Disney or whatever.
Speaker 3: Night.
Speaker 1: Yes it's Fox. Yes, that is what I would learn
Speaker 1: more about the dances to be able to compare them exactly. Brilliant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well take over, takeover.
Speaker 3: That's what you want is meet over.
Speaker 1: I've got some changes, all right. Then someone named Danielle
Speaker 1: Fischle danced and she brought some co star, some guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she brought the guy who was the voice of
Speaker 2: Kit in night rider.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's what he's most he's most known for.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Captain cool?
Speaker 2: What was his name? Captain amazing?
Speaker 3: What was it in the fifties?
Speaker 2: Who did he play?
Speaker 1: Captain Fantastic?
Speaker 2: Is that what it was? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Bill, Oh my god. Yeah, this is obviously
Speaker 1: very close to our heart.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: So this was great to see. But again, do we
Speaker 1: a jive? A high energy jive after we've been crying
Speaker 1: over Robert Irwin? I was like, this is gonna be hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay for hard. Wait a second, we did
Speaker 2: we say what Scott?
Speaker 3: What Scott got?
Speaker 1: Scott got seven eight seven eight, which seemed very kind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it could have been it could have
Speaker 2: been seven or all sevens.
Speaker 3: I agree, okay, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Danielle, Danielle, it's I don't know if I love the
Speaker 1: choice to dance to the boy Its World theme song
Speaker 1: just because I'm so sick of it. For me, it
Speaker 1: just gets stuck in my head. But also there were
Speaker 1: more lyrics. Do you think these were these lyrics? Were?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: There were something? Stop?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: I was yeah. I was like, oh, because I think
Speaker 1: there's a full version of the song out there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they must have. It was like hearing the rest
Speaker 1: of the Cheers song, which is very bizarre, by the way,
Speaker 1: the full Cheers song. Yeah, there's like a whole cross
Speaker 1: dressing thing. It's like, what what's happening. I don't know
Speaker 1: this and I know this song really well, but I.
Speaker 2: The song to mash is literally called suicide is Painless,
Speaker 2: so it's yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Great, but I just couldn't, you know. The second it started.
Speaker 1: I just kept thinking of all, you know, the joke
Speaker 1: that we do on our podcast every week, which is
Speaker 1: like when we have like the super dramatic, awful moment,
Speaker 1: And then I just felt kind of like that coming
Speaker 1: out of all these emotional expressive dances to be like
Speaker 1: and it's fun time out of the school yard. But
Speaker 1: it was. It was she brought so much energy again,
Speaker 1: like last week, Danielle is committing to the technicality of
Speaker 1: the dance and the form of the dance and like
Speaker 1: that feet work.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: I was just like, great, do it, go for it.
Speaker 2: This is one that I needed. That when I saw
Speaker 2: it on the stage, I was like, ah, I don't
Speaker 2: know how good that was, Like it didn't look bad,
Speaker 2: but I was like because he couldn't really see. And
Speaker 2: then when I saw it back at home, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: she was great. You know, she definitely she was high energy.
Speaker 2: She looked great. He's dressed like Cory, She's dressed like
Speaker 2: ag O, her hair is crimped.
Speaker 3: It like it hit all the feels.
Speaker 2: You got Bill Daniels there, who you know again is
Speaker 2: a super old man who just wants to be there
Speaker 2: for us for things, who's just so sweet. But it
Speaker 2: was it felt out of place tonight. And that's why
Speaker 2: I'm asking who got to pick what? Because for them
Speaker 2: to be like, hey, you're all gonna do these beautiful
Speaker 2: contemporary dances, Danielle, you're doing the jive, it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: really it just seems like whoever got the jive that night?
Speaker 2: It's gonna seem like it's out of place.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I also.
Speaker 1: Wondered, I also, as much as you know, obviously, like
Speaker 1: I understand the connection to Bill and I understand the
Speaker 1: connection to Boybet's world, I wonder if this is really
Speaker 1: what she needed in terms of, you know, like everyone
Speaker 1: knows her as to bank like this this was a
Speaker 1: chance for her to open up another aspect of Danielle's
Speaker 1: real life and to dedicate it to somebody like her
Speaker 1: husband or her kids or you know. And the fact
Speaker 1: that she didn't do that, I was like, that's kind
Speaker 1: of a risk, Like it's sort of jubbling down on
Speaker 1: what she's already known for coming into this competition, right,
Speaker 1: And it's not saying, there's this whole aspect of my life,
Speaker 1: which is what everybody else did, right. Everybody else is like,
Speaker 1: you know me as singer, you know me as Mormon housewived,
Speaker 1: if you know me as these other things, and here's
Speaker 1: a chance for me to showcase an aspect of my
Speaker 1: life that you don't know and dedicate it to somebody.
Speaker 1: From that and by choosing Bill, which I totally understand
Speaker 1: why she did, I mean, of course known him, but
Speaker 1: I was like, is that gonna be a that's kind
Speaker 1: of a risk. That's doubling down on what everyone already
Speaker 1: knows you as to Penguin.
Speaker 2: Right, and wonder too though maybe she didn't have any
Speaker 2: other options. I mean maybe maybe it's one of those
Speaker 2: things where it's like maybe her husband doesn't want to
Speaker 2: dance with her, she doesn't want to put her kids
Speaker 2: on camera. I mean, there could be It could be
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like, who knows what
Speaker 2: she wanted to do. Maybe it was like I'm dedicating
Speaker 2: to my mom or my dad and they're like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be on camera, in which case
Speaker 2: you would then kind of go, Okay, what do I
Speaker 2: have left? Right? And then it's like, God, Bill Daniels,
Speaker 2: Oh my God, bring the house down with Bill Daniels,
Speaker 2: which is a great choice. But to me, it wasn't
Speaker 2: about Bill or boy. It was about the style of
Speaker 2: dance on this night just seemed out of place, right,
Speaker 2: and so, and then we'll get to the judging, which
Speaker 2: to me, I was infuriated when I got home, when
Speaker 2: I watched it again. I do not know how they're
Speaker 2: judging Danielle. I do not think it's fair how they're
Speaker 2: judging it. It seems like they have two categories they have.
Speaker 2: They have people that were celebrities that have had no
Speaker 2: dance experience whatsoever, that they're praising their journey and really
Speaker 2: telling them how great they are.
Speaker 3: And then the.
Speaker 2: People that have serious dance competition and they're judging them
Speaker 2: a little more harshly. And I feel like they put
Speaker 2: Danielle in that category for some reason.
Speaker 3: Well I don't know why that is.
Speaker 1: I think early on, because she's an actor and because
Speaker 1: she's so likable, I think that they put the pressure
Speaker 1: on her to say, you need to learn how to
Speaker 1: technically dance, right, And so she's been doing that and
Speaker 1: I think she did that last week, and she did
Speaker 1: that this week. And I think what's interesting is that
Speaker 1: everybody else, almost everybody else, decided to draw into story
Speaker 1: and expressibility this week, and so I feel like she's
Speaker 1: out of step now in some way with where the
Speaker 1: arc of the show a little bit, because now she's
Speaker 1: still trying to say, like, I can do this, I
Speaker 1: can do the technical thing, when actually, like I would
Speaker 1: love to see Danielle cut loose with a more emotion
Speaker 1: expressive dance, and I hope, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think she'll be able to do that with
Speaker 2: contemporary I hope. That's not what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: It seems like Andy gets up there and does a
Speaker 2: dance and they're like, man, we can see your progress.
Speaker 3: You're doing great. Ellen gets up there and does a dance.
Speaker 2: He's also an actress but has huge dance experience, and
Speaker 2: they're like, man, your journey's going so well, daniel gets
Speaker 2: up there and does that, and they're like, here's everything
Speaker 2: you're doing wrong, right, And I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: why is everybody criticizing her for everything she's done? And
Speaker 2: everybody else gets this, you are so amazing.
Speaker 1: But I think part of it is that she presents
Speaker 1: as so capable, you know, just as a person, as
Speaker 1: a personality, she sure, and she also presents younger than
Speaker 1: she actually is, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: you look at somebody like Andy, you look at you,
Speaker 1: look at your your The reality is she is older
Speaker 1: than Jen, she's older than you know, these other ye
Speaker 1: like she's in her forties, but she doesn't look like it,
Speaker 1: like Danielle looks like you know, like they even said,
Speaker 1: you still look exactly like you did as a teenager, right.
Speaker 1: And so I think that there's this expectation that she's
Speaker 1: you know, and she hasn't leaned into like her identity
Speaker 1: as a mom as much. She hasn't leaned into her story.
Speaker 2: But she also drink. She never danced before, I know,
Speaker 2: so why is she not in that category? And it's
Speaker 2: not likely that carry In at one point says to her, look,
Speaker 2: I've got to tell you all your dances are starting
Speaker 2: to look the same. But that's not on Danielle. She's
Speaker 2: not choreographing the dances. That's on Pasha and so and
Speaker 2: she goes, oh, you know this is also for you, Pasha. No,
Speaker 2: it's not also for Pasha. That's one hundred percent on Pasha.
Speaker 2: A I don't necessarily agree, but she's criticizing Danielle for
Speaker 2: something that Danielle has nothing to do with, and so
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, Danielle, your dances are really so
Speaker 2: you gotta be careful. They're starting to look the same. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, am I choreographing the dances too? I wasn't
Speaker 2: aware that was part of my job description. So I
Speaker 2: was starting to get pissed. Where it's like everybody else
Speaker 2: gets this, man, you are great and I love everything
Speaker 2: you're doing. And then Danielle gets up there and everybody's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you need to hold your hands like this and if
Speaker 2: you do this, you gotta do this, and wow, they're
Speaker 2: starting to look the same. But wait a second, why
Speaker 2: are they treating her so differently? And last night to
Speaker 2: me really bracketed that it seemed like she is being
Speaker 2: treated differently than basically everybody else in the show.
Speaker 1: I think because I you know, I think that last
Speaker 1: week she did a high energy fun number and this
Speaker 1: week she did a high energy fun number, and I think,
Speaker 1: like I said, she did not deepen her uh her
Speaker 1: character in a way. You know, it was like everyone
Speaker 1: knows her as Topanga and she went back and did that.
Speaker 1: So I think that's more what as much as like
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think the dance looks the same,
Speaker 1: but I think she's starting to feel the same. Like
Speaker 1: I think that it is starting to feel like what
Speaker 1: else you got? Let's you know, because I think Danielle's
Speaker 1: been like, I'm going to prove that I can do
Speaker 1: these technical dances, and I think she's been doing that,
Speaker 1: and I think now it's time for her to just
Speaker 1: express herself a little bit more in another aspect. And
Speaker 1: and I don't know, so I feel like that's the nope,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't disagree, but if we've already established
Speaker 2: and we're not sure we're right, but we think we are.
Speaker 2: That they don't pick the dance style they're gonna do
Speaker 2: that week, then you and they're not choreographing, then you
Speaker 2: can't be like, you've done two high energy dances in
Speaker 2: the row and they kind of look the same. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: then neither that Neither those criticisms are on Danielle. If
Speaker 2: she's not picking the style and she's not choreographing it,
Speaker 2: then you've got to judge her on actually dancing. And
Speaker 2: I thought the actual dancing deserved way better than what
Speaker 2: she got. Should she have gotten nines across the board? No,
Speaker 2: she was not Dylan, she was not Robert, of course not.
Speaker 2: But you cannot tell me that when some people were
Speaker 2: getting eight seven, eight seven, that their dances were that
Speaker 2: much better than Danielle's. It just it seems like they're
Speaker 2: praising everybody else and then telling Danielle everything she's done wrong.
Speaker 2: And that's really that got to me last night because
Speaker 2: and again we're biased, and I'm like, you were my
Speaker 2: best friend, and I don't like that. So I know
Speaker 2: that I'm a little agro when it comes to that stuff,
Speaker 2: but I really felt it last night, especially when I
Speaker 2: watched it back.
Speaker 1: All Right, she got seven seven seven and an eight,
Speaker 1: and did.
Speaker 2: You see did you watch her as there's telling her scores? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was sad to me because she was like trying
Speaker 2: to hold it together, and I feel like it was
Speaker 2: a little unfair that night.
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, well she gave it her all, she
Speaker 1: didn't give it her all. And knowing Danielle, she's going
Speaker 1: to take this criticism and come back next week. I mean,
Speaker 1: luckily there was no elimination, right, she did not get eliminated,
Speaker 1: So she's got another shot.
Speaker 2: Well, now she'll have to choreograph herund dances apparently what
Speaker 2: they're asking for, and as just every week as we do.
Speaker 2: Because you know that I have an encyclopedic knowledge of
Speaker 2: everything dance.
Speaker 3: This is, of course Wills his dude of dance. This
Speaker 3: one is sponsored.
Speaker 2: I told you I'm doing a new thing where I'm
Speaker 2: trying to find uh up and coming companies and try
Speaker 2: to give them a little bit, you know, extra.
Speaker 1: Boost, a little boots.
Speaker 2: So there is a small watch company called Rolex that
Speaker 2: I think makes a nice product.
Speaker 3: If they wanted to send me one, I could.
Speaker 1: So you sure it's for Alexa, It might be it
Speaker 1: might be Rolee.
Speaker 2: You're right again, I don't know anything about the company,
Speaker 2: So the X could be silent, but the jive, I
Speaker 2: don't know if you're aware of this Rider, but originated
Speaker 2: as an African American dance in the early nineteen thirties,
Speaker 2: emerging from swing dances like the Lindy Hop and the Jitterbug,
Speaker 2: and gained public recognition through cab Callaway. American gis brought
Speaker 2: the dance to Europe during World War II, where it
Speaker 2: evolved with variations, became popular in Britain in France before
Speaker 2: being standardized as a competitive ballroom dance and adopted as
Speaker 2: one of the five International Latin Dances in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1: Has not been a new ballroom style since like the sixties.
Speaker 1: Has anybody is there like this new.
Speaker 3: There's got well contemporary probably, but I guess that's not ballroom.
Speaker 1: No that I'm curious, like if anybody's inventing a new
Speaker 1: version of a ballroom dance, like because I feel like
Speaker 1: every time you do these histories, it's like basically kind
Speaker 1: of slops in the nineteen thirties, that's where the last
Speaker 1: time people were inventing new ballroom dances.
Speaker 2: So there is no single newest ballroom dance, but rather
Speaker 2: new t friends are emerging, most notably fusion dance that
Speaker 2: makes which blends traditional ballroom styles with other genres like
Speaker 2: contemporary hip hop.
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 3: All right, right at my fingertips.
Speaker 1: Right there, just amazing. All right, Alex and Val again
Speaker 1: went contemporary, and uh, I thought this was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's you mean, she's just clearly in
Speaker 1: that category of like Europe, you're a dancer, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get it, and it's it's it's way less, it's way
Speaker 1: less compelling as a reality reality show journey to watch
Speaker 1: her dance. It's it's it's wonderful to watch her dance, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're great, they're great dance. But yeah, it's a little
Speaker 1: hard for me to be invested because I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: you're just great, you can do this, Like, but.
Speaker 2: Yet you were invested in Whitney. So do you think
Speaker 2: it's just the story that happened this week that made
Speaker 2: you so invested in that, because again, same kind of journey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I guess. I guess I
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen Whitney struggle a little bit more,
Speaker 1: whereas like Alex seems like she's been prepping for this
Speaker 1: right ready to go, and it's just like, let me
Speaker 1: showcase my dancing ability, which is also lovely it's just
Speaker 1: is it Dancing with the Stars? You know, I'm not Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. I guess I was a little less invested
Speaker 1: in the like the younger Sister storyline for instance this week,
Speaker 1: which is also it was great. Yeah, no, this was
Speaker 1: this was lovely and I mean it was nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it flew very nice, dance gorgeous, Yeah, very pretty. There
Speaker 1: was this moment during the judging where I think it
Speaker 1: was Derek said something about the negativity happening tonight.
Speaker 2: Yes, what was that all about? So there's different rumors.
Speaker 2: There's rumors online that he was actually that was a
Speaker 2: shot across the bow at Carrie Anne for some of
Speaker 2: the stuff, some of the judging she's been doing. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's other rumors that it is about just stuff online
Speaker 2: about is Dancing with the Stars too much professional dancers
Speaker 2: versus non professional dancers. So that now that I've googled
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars three times, of course it's the
Speaker 2: only thing that shows up in my algorithm. So there's
Speaker 2: all there's all these things, but that's the one I
Speaker 2: heard this morning is maybe Derek was taking a shot
Speaker 2: at care.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand it because I was just like, actually,
Speaker 1: like the night, as far as a viewer went, was
Speaker 1: so emotional and supportive and everybody was crying and hugging
Speaker 1: each other. I was like, what negativity is he referring to?
Speaker 1: And then I was wondering if it was something in
Speaker 1: the room, like somebody say, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I asked Jensen and he was like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess there's just been stuff in the news or something.
Speaker 4: So yeah, because I was someone who was there, we
Speaker 4: were all like what is he talking about?
Speaker 5: Like watching in the back and we're like what.
Speaker 4: And then I asked Jensen and he was like, I
Speaker 4: think he meant this week like just people being negative
Speaker 4: on social media about.
Speaker 5: Other dance, like you know, the judging.
Speaker 1: And all that.
Speaker 4: But in the moment we were all confused too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because it really felt like it was like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about, dude? Like this the night
Speaker 1: has been probably for me, some of the best dancing
Speaker 1: of the whole show, I agree, and the most entertaining,
Speaker 1: and everybody seemed so loving and supportive, like it didn't
Speaker 1: I don't know it was. It was a bizarre thing
Speaker 1: to say. I was like, all we've done is like
Speaker 1: celebrate people's families and partners and like this is awesome,
Speaker 1: Like I don't so, I don't know. It was a weird,
Speaker 1: weird comment that kind of threw me off. Yeah, but yes,
Speaker 1: Alex and Vow were great. Yeah, they danced to Coldplay.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, what did Danielle get me? Danielle
Speaker 2: got three seven and a first eight. We forgot to
Speaker 2: say that, which is.
Speaker 1: No, I think I said it, but okay, maybe not
Speaker 1: maybe not.
Speaker 2: First date is she was very excited with that, and
Speaker 2: and it might not have been it was totally deserved
Speaker 2: to get an eight, by the way, especially all the
Speaker 2: other dances going.
Speaker 1: I guess when I look at Scott's scores, which were
Speaker 1: two eights and two sevens, I'm like, Danielle could have
Speaker 1: gotten another eight.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. That's what I'm saying is I don't get the scoring.
Speaker 1: The two of them are having sort of equivalent journeys,
Speaker 1: I think, where they're both like trying to prove something.
Speaker 1: You know, they're both artists who can express themselves in
Speaker 1: other forms, trying to prove that they can do the
Speaker 1: dancing thing, you know, the technical parts, and they Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think her own category.
Speaker 2: But I think she's better than he is as a dancer,
Speaker 2: I think has shown more than he is as a dancer.
Speaker 2: She's more fluid than he is as a dancer, and
Speaker 2: I think overall he's has higher scores than her.
Speaker 1: I agree in it. Yep, all right, Alex and Val
Speaker 1: they were eight nine nine and was it an I
Speaker 1: actually didn't write this down. Was it a nine? The
Speaker 1: final three?
Speaker 3: Nine in an? Eight? Is that right?
Speaker 1: Anyway? Very high score. And then we went into the
Speaker 1: elimination which was No.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's happy.
Speaker 3: Still nerve racking. Oh my god. I was watching Danielle
Speaker 3: on his day and she was just holding it together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so nerve wracking. It's so obvious that there's
Speaker 1: like the top five and a bottom five, you know,
Speaker 1: like there's no question anymore, Like we've seen the sort
Speaker 1: of so unfortunately, like it's going to take somebody sort
Speaker 1: of breaking out of that lower five to really doing
Speaker 1: something stand out next week in order to even be
Speaker 1: in the competition with people like Robert Erwin and Whitney.
Speaker 1: I mean, these these people are just and dying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're they're breaking away from the pack. They're
Speaker 2: definitely breaking. And again, I do not mind if my
Speaker 2: best friend is in the bottom. If she's treated exactly
Speaker 2: the same way as everybody else, right.
Speaker 3: That's all I care about. Just treat everybody the same.
Speaker 2: During the show, it just seemed like this episode especially,
Speaker 2: she was treated differently, and I just don't know why.
Speaker 3: That's all it is.
Speaker 2: That's again, if if you it's the the old equivalent
Speaker 2: of what your parents used to say to you, I
Speaker 2: don't care if you get a d if you really
Speaker 2: tried your hardest. And it's one of those things where
Speaker 2: I just treat her like everybody else, and I felt
Speaker 2: like they haven't.
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder how much they know that she's getting
Speaker 1: in a lot of the popular vote potentially, Yeah maybe,
Speaker 1: And I mean they're saying that this is the highest
Speaker 1: voting season of dancing. But still ever, that's we'll just
Speaker 1: call that the Tapenga effect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: You know. I think that I and I wonder how
Speaker 1: much that's you know, influencing their harsher criticism because they're like, well,
Speaker 1: she could be getting a huge popular vote, and therefore
Speaker 1: they're you know, trying to balance that out a little bit.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I saw two or three pretty big influencers that always
Speaker 2: do stuff about Dancing with the Stars, and two of
Speaker 2: them had Danielle number three as top three as Top
Speaker 2: three had her they had they had h Robert number one,
Speaker 2: Dylan number two, and Danielle.
Speaker 3: Number three, two of them.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious what Maybe maybe the American people are
Speaker 2: seeing something way different than the judges are, and who
Speaker 2: knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, you got a question for me?
Speaker 2: I do, But first, uh, first I want to talk
Speaker 2: to you a little bit so we know that, uh,
Speaker 2: we are doing something called the strong incentive, which is
Speaker 2: what to take to get right or strong to be
Speaker 2: a contestant on Dancing with the Stars. We have now
Speaker 2: offered cash and prizes, probably close to the two million
Speaker 2: dollar mark. But one thing you've got, a no writer,
Speaker 2: is that life has consequences. So I'm gonna need you
Speaker 2: to pick a random number between one and four three
Speaker 2: three three. You picked, you have lost the five hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. It is no longer on the table anymore.
Speaker 3: Oh, my friend, the.
Speaker 2: Will giveth and the will take it away. So yes,
Speaker 2: originally five hundred thousand dollars showed up to your house
Speaker 2: and you released the hounds. Then we had a sprinter van,
Speaker 2: beautiful sprinter van, three hundred thousand dollars value.
Speaker 3: You said no, and you release the hounds yet again.
Speaker 2: Then they someone found Sean's leather jacket, original leather jacket,
Speaker 2: and you wavered a bit, but nope, still weren't interested.
Speaker 2: And then last week I went for the soft underbell,
Speaker 2: which you're going to do again this week, where you
Speaker 2: had your og magic cards with a black Lotus card
Speaker 2: thrown in. But now because indifference has consequence, the five
Speaker 2: hundred grand.
Speaker 3: Is off the table.
Speaker 2: So we now have just the jacket, the magic cards
Speaker 2: with the black Lotus, and the sprinter van. This week,
Speaker 2: somebody shows up at your house with a Manila envelope,
Speaker 2: one of those specialty sealed envelopes that you have to
Speaker 2: sign for. You grab the pen, you write right or strong,
Speaker 2: and you quickly cross it out, because we know how
Speaker 2: you like to sign an autograph. You opened the pat
Speaker 2: you open the little the little thing, the little Millima
Speaker 2: Manila envelope, and you slide out a paper. You read
Speaker 2: the paper and it is a deed oh No to Coffeecats,
Speaker 2: which is opening again in Sebastopool.
Speaker 3: Its original spot.
Speaker 6: You have the opportunity to have an entire new generation
Speaker 6: of young hippie kids who like to read poetry and
Speaker 6: play magic, the original spot of coffeecats, and it is yours.
Speaker 2: If you would only go on dancing with the stars.
Speaker 1: That's a really good one, right. You know why that's
Speaker 1: a really good one because it's not only personal and
Speaker 1: goes back to like my but I've always loved community
Speaker 1: and the idea of like having a gathering space, and
Speaker 1: I also love coffee, and I could to provide what
Speaker 1: I got from that community and that sense of space.
Speaker 1: And you know, also I did open mic there. I
Speaker 1: have friends who did open mic nights.
Speaker 2: There all comes back rider and it's yours.
Speaker 1: I mean, what if I say yes, then it's the
Speaker 1: segment over.
Speaker 3: I mean again, would you say yes? Is this what
Speaker 3: it would take?
Speaker 1: I mean, I really, I really love I've always loved
Speaker 1: the idea of like having you know, being a part
Speaker 1: of But then I think about owning a restaurant, owning
Speaker 1: a responsibility also responsibility these that come with it, And
Speaker 1: I lost the five hundred thousand dollars which could have
Speaker 1: helped hire those people to help me run it. And
Speaker 1: it's not a bookstore. It's just a coffee shop. Oh God,
Speaker 1: that's tough, though, that was like, that's like that. God,
Speaker 1: But could I handle the embarrassment of doing the show.
Speaker 3: With all the social media stuff attached?
Speaker 1: I would, Oh God, I feel like I would ruin
Speaker 1: all my like integrity in order to be on Dance
Speaker 1: with the Stars. That I wouldn't be able to have
Speaker 1: an authentic relationship with coffeecats back in Sebastball. God, damn it.
Speaker 1: Will I don't know. I'm genuinely torn the how much
Speaker 1: were the magic cards worth? I could sell the magic cards.
Speaker 2: The magic car well, I think the I don't know
Speaker 2: what your original deck would be worth. There probably be
Speaker 2: some bangers in there, but the black BoatUS I think
Speaker 2: the last one sold for six hundred grand.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I still have some cash?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, God, I think I might do it. Seriously.
Speaker 2: Did we find it already in week five?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think I could I
Speaker 1: change it to a bookstore? Could I? Could I make.
Speaker 2: It it's your original coffee? Well?
Speaker 3: I mean again, it's yours and you can do whatever
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 7: Okay, No, okay, If I'm gonna say it's original coffee
Speaker 7: cats if you have to be original coffee cats, and
Speaker 7: I can't also make it into like the but man,
Speaker 7: that's close, that's close.
Speaker 1: I honestly like, I've always thought that, like, oh, it
Speaker 1: would be fun to own a place like that. But
Speaker 1: I talked to anybody who's worked in the restaurant industry
Speaker 1: and it sounds like hell yeah, you know, concluding my
Speaker 1: wife who spent years in the restaurant and like, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no. As much as I want that
Speaker 1: space back, and I would love to provide a community space,
Speaker 1: it would I would rather be a bookstore that has
Speaker 1: coffee as opposed to a coffee shop that that serves food.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna sry.
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2: Also, keep in mind, now every week that you say no,
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose something else.
Speaker 1: That's on it. That's fair. I think that's fair. I
Speaker 1: think that keeps it, keeps it. Yeah, there you go,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be random if that stays on though,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's gonna be hard. It's getting hard. Man.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 3: Good job, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Oh man. All right, that's it for this episode of
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