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Speaker 3: I want to talk about, you know, what this political
Speaker 3: funding situation really is and who's really moving a needle
Speaker 3: because they put they put thirty million on you, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was taken aback by that. I was telling the
Speaker 2: guys right before the shows they have an ad that's
Speaker 2: attacking to more bollmen. I'm like, that's the friend of
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: So all right, they put they put they put thirty
Speaker 3: million on you. So what does this mean? Break this
Speaker 3: down and layman term for the people to understand, you know,
Speaker 3: how big money is really influencing elections.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, especially in congressional elections. So one quick point
Speaker 1: of clarification, the election is not weeks away, it's actually
Speaker 1: days away. So the first day of early voting is
Speaker 1: this Saturday. So that's Saturday, June fifteenth, literally six days away,
Speaker 1: and so we're treating the first day of early voting
Speaker 1: as as election day. So please get out there and
Speaker 1: vote everyone who's watching. So, when you run for office
Speaker 1: at any level, you got to raise money to run
Speaker 1: your campaign. So that money goes towards paying staff, it
Speaker 1: goes towards getting flyers and palm cards, posters, banners, mailers
Speaker 1: to people's homes, advertisement, it goes to a variety of things.
Speaker 1: When you run for Congress, the most that someone can
Speaker 1: donate to your campaign it's thirty three hundred dollars for
Speaker 1: the primary and another thirty three hundred for the general
Speaker 1: if you win the primary. But there are organizations that
Speaker 1: work outside of your campaign that are called super packs
Speaker 1: and cfors. Those c fours can raise an unlimited amount
Speaker 1: of money. They do not have to publicly disclose who
Speaker 1: gives them money, and then they can operate on the
Speaker 1: campaign's behalf and or give that money to super packs,
Speaker 1: which operate on the campaign's behalf. So in my race,
Speaker 1: when you talk about that thirty million dollar number, most
Speaker 1: of that is coming from the C four and the
Speaker 1: superpack that is being spent on behalf of the person
Speaker 1: who is running against me. That is not his campaign money.
Speaker 1: His campaign money can be anywhere from like a couple
Speaker 1: million dollars most likely, right, usually a couple million dollars,
Speaker 1: and he spends that for flyers and mailers and ads.
Speaker 1: But then if you have a C four or superpack
Speaker 1: that is well endowed, they can spend money on his behalf,
Speaker 1: which is what's happening in this race. Most of that
Speaker 1: thirty million is happening from the superpack side of it.
Speaker 1: And this is more money than they have ever spent
Speaker 1: in their history. And I'm speaking specifically about the group
Speaker 1: A PAC.
Speaker 3: So, okay, so let's get let's get straight to the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he said today though, so.
Speaker 3: Well, Nate, So a pack, Yes, who is a pack?
Speaker 3: For the audience, and why would a pack spend thirty
Speaker 3: million allegedly, why would APEX spend thirty million dollars to
Speaker 3: defeat Jamaal Bowman?
Speaker 1: Yes, so APAC stands for and I want to get
Speaker 1: this right. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee, they are
Speaker 1: one issue organization Israel. They support the State of Israel,
Speaker 1: and their lobbying in Congress goes to ensure that Israel
Speaker 1: continues to receive three point eight billion dollars a year
Speaker 1: in military funding and whatever additional billions or money they
Speaker 1: need for whatever it is that they want to do.
Speaker 1: That's who APAC is. They are targeting me and spending
Speaker 1: so much money against me because I called for a
Speaker 1: permanent ceasefire in Gaza and because I'm calling out and
Speaker 1: fighting to end the genocide and the famine that is
Speaker 1: happening in Gaza. They are not used to members of
Speaker 1: Congress criticizing Israel or speaking up against APAK. Now that
Speaker 1: they have members of Congress doing that, they are targeting
Speaker 1: those members of Congress and targeting other people around the country.
Speaker 1: So they don't just fund congressional races, they fund state races,
Speaker 1: county races, local races, et cetera. They've been around for
Speaker 1: sixty years advocating for Israel and Israel only, and they've
Speaker 1: pledged to spend one hundred million dollars this election cycle.
Speaker 1: But the majority of that going towards your boy, Congressman Bowmen.
Speaker 2: Of what they're going to know is they're willingending you,
Speaker 2: which is and I mean when we talk about wealth
Speaker 2: and will have a conversation with that, I'm sure, But
Speaker 2: we don't have super PACs. And that's something that we've
Speaker 2: had plenty of conversations about even educating people on what
Speaker 2: they are, how to form them, and how to figure
Speaker 2: out what exactly they'll be for. Right, we need to
Speaker 2: know the things that we want. When you hear those
Speaker 2: type of numbers, thirty million, which is a lot of
Speaker 2: money to be spending on the capital on a local well,
Speaker 2: we could not a local election, but a regional election, right, right?
Speaker 2: How do you combat that?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Hey? I need to raise more. We have to become
Speaker 2: strategic because I've seen their ads every morning. I see
Speaker 2: your ads too, right, I love I love like when
Speaker 2: it's like you're going back to the schools and education
Speaker 2: is part of the campaign. How do you combat that? Like,
Speaker 2: what's the strategy to run against somebody that seems to
Speaker 2: have capital that's almost pretty extensive I want to say unlimited,
Speaker 2: but very extensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, just to give you some more context before
Speaker 1: I answer your question. So, they spent ten million on
Speaker 1: ads within a four week period, just a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. That is more money than President Biden has
Speaker 1: spent on broadcasts all year. So literally within a four
Speaker 1: week period, they were trying to bombard people with the
Speaker 1: message that they wanted to send out about my record,
Speaker 1: which is complete misinformation and disinformation and propaganda, not accurate
Speaker 1: at all. But that gives you an idea. Comparing it
Speaker 1: to President's Biden overall spending for the year, it's not
Speaker 1: even close, and so you can't compete with them dollar
Speaker 1: for dollar. But what you can do is you can
Speaker 1: have an incredible field operation and ground game that literally
Speaker 1: goes door to door. And so for us, we spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time and effort on our field operation.
Speaker 1: We spend money on field to make sure we are
Speaker 1: knocking doors in particular areas. But then we also have
Speaker 1: an incredible volunteer army of at least that volunteers who
Speaker 1: are making tens of thousands of calls and knocking tens
Speaker 1: of thousands of doors every few days. And so that's
Speaker 1: how you combat it. They got money, we got people.
Speaker 1: This is the many versus the money, and most of
Speaker 1: the district supports my policies as it relates to Gaza.
Speaker 1: For example, they support the permanencies fire, They support you know,
Speaker 1: me wanting to fight to bring that three point eight
Speaker 1: billion dollars back here to help people with you know,
Speaker 1: entrepreneurship opportunities, affordable housing, affordable childcare, fully funding schools, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Most of the American people are with us.
Speaker 1: The challenge is they have all the money, and they
Speaker 1: also have media infrastructure in place where they can, you know,
Speaker 1: quickly pivot and weaponize something I said or did against
Speaker 1: us as well, which is part of what they're doing
Speaker 1: during this campaign.
Speaker 4: With hindsight being twenty twenty, do you regret making some
Speaker 4: of the statements that you did and maybe that could
Speaker 4: have prevented the attack. Do you feel as if, no
Speaker 4: matter what was stated, they were going to attack you
Speaker 4: through media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no, I don't regret it at all. I'm
Speaker 1: not in Congress to be comfortable or to be quiet,
Speaker 1: not in Congress to just go along and get along.
Speaker 1: If I'm not there fighting for justice like racial justice,
Speaker 1: economic justice, adjust foreign policy, then you know I'm not
Speaker 1: supposed to be there. If I'm not there fighting for
Speaker 1: those things. So no, I don't. I don't regret it
Speaker 1: at all. And as a matter of fact, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: this is exactly what we needed to be doing at
Speaker 1: this time. This is an example of us carrying on
Speaker 1: the legacy of our ancestors who fought and died for
Speaker 1: everything from the end of slavery to the end of
Speaker 1: Jim Crow to the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at what happened during the sixties with
Speaker 1: so many martyrs, Doctor King, Malcolm X Mega Evers, and
Speaker 1: so many others, you know, And so this is kind
Speaker 1: of my responsibility, I think, as you know, not just
Speaker 1: a black man in Congress, but a certain type of
Speaker 1: black consciousness in Congress. You know, I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: doing this, and I actually take it as a badger
Speaker 1: honor that they're spending more money than they ever spend
Speaker 1: history to get me out of office.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Okay, So three points
Speaker 3: eight billion, you said, goes to Israel.
Speaker 1: Three point eight billion a year plus plus let me
Speaker 1: just add real quick before you asked your question. Plus whenever,
Speaker 1: like whenever something occurs out of the ordinary, a pac
Speaker 1: writes a bill for Congress to appropriate more money for Israel.
Speaker 1: So during my first term we annually, no matter what,
Speaker 1: if everything's quiet, calm, three point eight billions already earmarked.
Speaker 1: But my first term, Hama sent rockets to attack Israel
Speaker 1: and Israel had to use some of this I am
Speaker 1: don't defense resources. And right after that, Apak wrote a
Speaker 1: bill so that we could send an additional billion to
Speaker 1: Israel on top of the three point eight billion. Right now,
Speaker 1: with the attacks happening in Gaza right now, we just
Speaker 1: passed a bill of sending an additional fourteen billion into Israel,
Speaker 1: almost like to help them re up their military resources
Speaker 1: after this conflict, so that whenever they need it, we
Speaker 1: got it. That's how it goes.
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