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Speaker 2: basketball yesterday. Over the weekend, the Pacers are a sneaky
Speaker 2: good team. I know they're facing a banged up Bucks
Speaker 2: team without Dame Lillard, but they win nuggets and overtime
Speaker 2: over the Clippers. The Knicks, I thought they were going
Speaker 2: to lose to the Pistons, and then there was a
Speaker 2: twenty one to nothing run and the Knicks survive Game one,
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves over the Lakers. And then yesterday the Thunder
Speaker 2: beat the Grizz by fifty one points, the largest game
Speaker 2: one victory margin of victory in NBA history. Fifty one
Speaker 2: points the largest in a playoff game since twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: And you're watching the game, and I felt bad for
Speaker 2: Mike Breen, he's the play by play voice, and I'm going, Mike,
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do some Phil You're gonna have
Speaker 2: to tell some stories with Richard Jefferson here and Doris
Speaker 2: Burke because this game is gonna get out of hand early.
Speaker 2: The Lakers somehow were surprised at the physicality of the Timberwolves.
Speaker 2: I never understood that. I don't know if I'd ever
Speaker 2: admit that where I go. Yeah, dang man, they play physical.
Speaker 2: Luca played well, but the rest of the team didn't
Speaker 2: hold up there under the bargain, and Minnesota came after
Speaker 2: them and didn't let up.
Speaker 3: And picked up the victory there.
Speaker 2: But you know, you can't lose games at home, can't,
Speaker 2: not first round, can't. And you can't be surprised at
Speaker 2: the physicality of a team there, but they were. But
Speaker 2: Luca did have a respectable game, but you know, Minnesota
Speaker 2: had a balance to attack here. Oh, Colaoma City, they're
Speaker 2: a cute story. They're no longer a cute story. They're
Speaker 2: a real story. And I think sometimes we get caught
Speaker 2: up and he goes, oh that team out there, and no,
Speaker 2: Oklaoma City, Oh look at them. How many wins do
Speaker 2: they have. They went sixty eight and fourteen. They dominated.
Speaker 2: You got some other players on that team. I know
Speaker 2: they're going to have the MVP in shay Jalen Williams
Speaker 2: is a rising star. Ched Holmgren maybe a future Defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year winner. They got a really good bench.
Speaker 2: The Thunder no longer a cute story. They're a problem.
Speaker 2: They are. They're a real problem. And sometimes you'll see
Speaker 2: teams I mentioned this with Houston. Houston lost to Golden State.
Speaker 2: There are certain teams that go into the playoffs and
Speaker 2: it's almost like it's a fact finding mission. It's like
Speaker 2: a school trip. You're like, let's go see what that's like. Hey,
Speaker 2: let's go into the playoffs and see what that's like,
Speaker 2: and then we can kind of collect our thoughts and
Speaker 2: then get ready to go into next season. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say that they're not going to beat
Speaker 2: Golden State. I will be surprised if they beat Golden State,
Speaker 2: only because of Golden State has been there. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at just Steph Curry, Steph has more
Speaker 2: playoff games than the entire roster. Then you throw in
Speaker 2: Draymond Green, then you throw in Jimmy Butler, then you
Speaker 2: throw in some of these bench guys, then you throw
Speaker 2: in Steve Kerr. It's an incredible advantage for them. And
Speaker 2: you saw with Steph and Playoff Jimmy, they're probably the
Speaker 2: best tandem in the NBA. And I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: Luca and Lebron the way they were playing at the
Speaker 2: end of the regular season, and I would probably still
Speaker 2: side with them. But probably the general consensus is Steph
Speaker 2: and playoff Jimmy the best tandem. But the Cabs rolled,
Speaker 2: they beat the Heat, but the Warriors beating the Rockets.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised at that at all. It's just different basketball,
Speaker 2: and there's certain teams. Oklahoma City, they were on a
Speaker 2: fact finding mission last year, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you go, Okay, what did we learn? Go down through
Speaker 2: history a lot of times you have to lose to
Speaker 2: learn how to win. What does it take? What do
Speaker 2: we do, what didn't we do? What do they do
Speaker 2: better than us? And I think that's what you're seeing
Speaker 2: with Okacie Cleveland, big question mark there. They were great,
Speaker 2: best team in the East during the regular season. The
Speaker 2: general consensus is what the Boston Celtics, and rightfully so,
Speaker 2: that team is so deep. It feels like everybody can
Speaker 2: shoot a three. You could probably get the trainer out
Speaker 2: there and he might be able to be respectable from
Speaker 2: three point range. Everybody and then an oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: Derek White, you know Olympian. See that's the dangerous part
Speaker 2: of this. When Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum aren't great
Speaker 2: but they're great, that's when you win championships.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, have we ever disrespected a team like the
Speaker 4: Boston Celtics, And I don't mean that like purposefully, but
Speaker 4: we didn't talk about them at all all season long
Speaker 4: and they were the defending champs with the best starting
Speaker 4: five in the NBA.
Speaker 2: But it might be a compliment that we've just taken
Speaker 2: them for granted, that there's certain players and certain teams
Speaker 2: that they get elevated and then we go, Okay, we
Speaker 2: told that story. Now let's move on, because that's really
Speaker 2: we're in the storytelling business.
Speaker 3: What's the story you're telling about the Celtics this year?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: Can if the good Rod Deep Ross, how about Peyton Pritchard?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you just we run out of
Speaker 2: ways to describe somebody, and a lot of these teams
Speaker 2: you don't look at where they are in the playoff seedings.
Speaker 3: The same thing with San Antonio.
Speaker 2: People would get caught up in oh man, are you
Speaker 2: going to be the number one seed and have home
Speaker 2: court advantage.
Speaker 3: Spurs didn't care.
Speaker 2: They were like, we used the regular season to get
Speaker 2: ready for the postseason. Certain teams are like, we used
Speaker 2: the regular season to make the postseason. Boston uses the
Speaker 2: regular season just like the Patriots, Like they used the
Speaker 2: first three or four games of the regular season for
Speaker 2: their training camp, like this is our preseason, and then
Speaker 2: they use the regular season to get ready for the postseason.
Speaker 2: And that's a compliment to them. All Right, Seaton's not
Speaker 2: here today, So I'm guessing, Todd, are you doing the
Speaker 2: poll question? I do have the odds to win the
Speaker 2: NBA Championship? OKAC is your favorite, Then it's the Celtics,
Speaker 2: and then a distant third the Cabs. Really distant fourth
Speaker 2: is the Warriors, and then even further down the list
Speaker 2: is the Lakers. It does feel like it's a two race,
Speaker 2: two team race. But the Cavaliers. Cavaliers are a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. And I was watching last night. You might go,
Speaker 2: who's this guy who's lighting up the Miami heat Ti Jerome.
Speaker 3: Well, Ty Jerome played for Virginia.
Speaker 2: Remember when he was playing, and McLevin and I went
Speaker 2: back and forth because he goes, this Virginia team isn't good.
Speaker 2: I said, man, this they can shoot, they can shoot.
Speaker 2: And Ti Jerome, who's that? I said, I don't know
Speaker 2: who he is, but I know he can shoot. All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Ti Jerome pops up and you go,
Speaker 2: I'll be damned. It took a while, but he had
Speaker 2: a couple of games this year that got on the
Speaker 2: radar and I went that dude and they went at
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero last night. It was not nice. It was
Speaker 2: not nice. That's where you needed parental guidance because I'm going, damn.
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted Tyler Hero guardian last night.
Speaker 3: But Ti Jerome went at him. And you know they
Speaker 3: did a great job. Great job.
Speaker 6: Yes, Pault, I had to look up Ti Jerome. I
Speaker 6: couldn't lie to you. He's been on four teams in
Speaker 6: six years. He's played six seasons and only started ten games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, but he can shoot. He can.
Speaker 2: He got some buckets. He had twenty eight points and
Speaker 2: the win. That's the most by any Cavalier in their
Speaker 2: first NBA Playoff game since Kyrie had thirty against the
Speaker 2: Celtics back in twenty fifteen. Stat of the day, sat
Speaker 2: of the day, that past stat of the day, stat
Speaker 2: of the day.
Speaker 3: Here comes that what stat of the.
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Speaker 2: get caught up in one loss, you know, I like that.
Speaker 2: Ja Moran says, you know, we won't play this way
Speaker 2: next time around against Oka. See wow, stop the presses.
Speaker 2: You won't play that badly. You're gonna play a little better.
Speaker 2: It's almost one of those where he could say, if
Speaker 2: they lose by fifteen, see I told you we weren't
Speaker 2: gonna play that bad. We're improving here. But that was
Speaker 2: there was no pulse. Yeah, the body that there was
Speaker 2: no pulse. There was a corpse. But sometimes you'll have
Speaker 2: these big blowouts and then you know, these teams flip
Speaker 2: this switch on you, and maybe you have that with Memphis.
Speaker 2: I don't see it, just because I think, OKAYC knows,
Speaker 2: let's be great. We were great, Continue to be great.
Speaker 2: Don't take anybody for granted, and don't be surprised the
Speaker 2: Lakers were surprised.
Speaker 3: That's what surprises me. Wait a minute, guys, come on, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and it's not like Memphis is Minnesota is Memphis Minnesota.
Speaker 2: They can play for a title, and that's where you
Speaker 2: just you can't be goofing around here. Take something for granted, Yes, Mark.
Speaker 4: Lakers, Hey, this is the team that beat the Denver
Speaker 4: Nuggets last year in the playoffs. They took Yokij out.
Speaker 4: So why are we surprised that nas Reed and Julius
Speaker 4: Randall are being physical with them? Did they not see
Speaker 4: the Scotland report?
Speaker 2: But then JJ Riddick says hey, and Lebron said that, hey,
Speaker 2: we were kind of surprised at their physicality. They should
Speaker 2: be no surprises right now. You've played together long enough.
Speaker 2: You got you know, Luca playing well. And I really
Speaker 2: think that they have a chance to play, you know,
Speaker 2: for in the Western Conference finals. I mean, I really do.
Speaker 2: But it comes down to defense. But I didn't think
Speaker 2: physicality was going to be the difference. But it was
Speaker 2: all right, uh poll questions don.
Speaker 3: We're gonna roll with this one from PAULI. I think
Speaker 3: the Thunder will win the NBA title.
Speaker 7: Sure too early.
Speaker 6: Okay, y'all, sir, or too early.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think they're better than the Celtics.
Speaker 7: Think.
Speaker 3: I think they're a great team.
Speaker 2: This is one of those where they don't get a
Speaker 2: lot of publicity, just like the Cavs didn't get a lot.
Speaker 2: You know, we the media steers you where they want
Speaker 2: to steer you. They guide you. So when you turn
Speaker 2: on ESPN or Fox, they're going to guide you to
Speaker 2: where the Lakers are. They're going to guide you any.
Speaker 3: Place else maybe the Knicks.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're going to guide you to well, Memphis because
Speaker 2: Jaw's in trouble. Where else are they guiding you? Therefore,
Speaker 2: you really don't have a unless you watch these games.
Speaker 2: You don't have a good opinion, a strong opinion on
Speaker 2: a team because you're like, oh, okay, see I see
Speaker 2: the highlights. Yeah, all right, SGA and he's really good.
Speaker 2: But that's all you know. And then you'll see some
Speaker 2: of these other teams and you'll go, oh, wow, I
Speaker 2: was watching the Pistons, man, they're pretty good. It's because
Speaker 2: the media will hold your hand and take you where
Speaker 2: they want to because that's where the stories are. And
Speaker 2: we do a disservice to some of these other teams
Speaker 2: that play really well. And that's why I'm glad Sga
Speaker 2: is getting recognized because he has been great and players
Speaker 2: will say this, and they've said this, Jokers the best
Speaker 2: player in the game. But they're happy that Sga is
Speaker 2: going to be the MV pick, like he deserves to
Speaker 2: win the MV pick because of what the team did
Speaker 2: during the regular season. So that'll give you a sense
Speaker 2: of the players know. But is anybody talking about the
Speaker 2: Indiana Piecers. The WNBA team in Indiana gets more headlines,
Speaker 2: credit attention than the Pacers do. The Pacers are a
Speaker 2: really good team, but once again, the media does not
Speaker 2: guide you there. The only member of the media who
Speaker 2: does is Pat McAfee because he's in Indianapolis. But there
Speaker 2: will be some interesting stories that come out. And if
Speaker 2: you haven't watched Detroit, yes they did blow the lead
Speaker 2: the Knicks twenty one to nothing run. But Kate Cunningham
Speaker 2: is real. He is a real star.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauling, I didn't want to bring this up so early,
Speaker 6: but I was watching thunder Grizzlies. I'm just looking at
Speaker 6: that all the Grizzlies players and I'm like, oh, Scotty
Speaker 6: Pippen Junior is on the team, and I think he
Speaker 6: got the start for the Grizzlies. He spells his first
Speaker 6: name s c O T T Y. His father, Scottie
Speaker 6: Pippen Senior, spells it s c O T T I
Speaker 6: E m hm. That blew my mind. I always thought
Speaker 6: if you named your son after you, that exact same
Speaker 6: spelling of the name.
Speaker 3: Back to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Paul break it down, Yeah, it's worth
Speaker 2: break breaking into programming. Who no, young, you can do it.
Speaker 3: I guess who.
Speaker 8: Stell of the day, style of the day, start of
Speaker 8: the day, stell of the day. This is the stele
Speaker 8: of the day.
Speaker 3: Paulie, would you stay on that story please? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I E?
Speaker 3: Or why with Scottie Pippen Junior the third Now it's
Speaker 3: in your head though? Is he junior? No, it's gone?
Speaker 3: Is he? Is he junior?
Speaker 6: He is Scottie Pippen Junior. But it's s c O
Speaker 6: T T Y again.
Speaker 2: Okay, his father's I E E E.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 5: I found that kind of interesting as well.
Speaker 3: Now that Paul mentioned, that's not a good sign. No
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 2: No. Oh, Fritzy. Fritzy sent this to me. He was
Speaker 2: a hey, Luca's number is seventy seven. I go, okay,
Speaker 2: And do you realize seventy seven days after they traded Luca,
Speaker 2: the Mavericks were eliminated from the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Fascinating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go, okay, my thing numerology, I know it is.
Speaker 3: I know, love, I know. But did you notice that
Speaker 3: no one responded to you as well?
Speaker 5: Totally ignoring I didn't get a k or a thumbs
Speaker 5: up or a smiley thing.
Speaker 3: I I was way too busy for somemary.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was doing, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: I was way too busy to then, you know, very
Speaker 2: nice respond to your seventy seven seventy seven?
Speaker 6: Yes, Paul, I have an update on the Scottie Pippens
Speaker 6: Scotty Pippen junior story.
Speaker 2: Why don't you hold it during the commercial cars? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because this is going to keep people in their cars,
Speaker 2: drive you around.
Speaker 3: I'll be in in a minute. I gotta find him out.
Speaker 3: Scott it pep ben Okay, let's take a break here.
Speaker 3: Mel Kuiper.
Speaker 2: A little bit later on, as Todd calls him Mel
Speaker 2: hyper and he has got to be ready to go
Speaker 2: here draft week. Although with me and Mel, I've known
Speaker 2: Mel for gosh, thirty five years, almost forty years. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's ever changed as far as his delivery,
Speaker 2: like the volume, the level that he is at. That's
Speaker 2: the way he always is, speaking fast and nobody gets
Speaker 2: in more words in a sentence in a short period. Well,
Speaker 2: Fritzy does pretty well, but Mel Kiper we'll talk to
Speaker 2: him a little bit later on as well. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll take a break, we'll get phone calls. Operator Tyler
Speaker 2: sitting by, and we'll settle on a poll question as well.
Speaker 3: Great to be back, Glad you're with us. Back after this.
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Speaker 2: Mel Kiper a little bit later on, and I was
Speaker 2: talking to the Dan ansl and he said, when you
Speaker 2: think about the history of ESPN, now there's a lot
Speaker 2: of voices there, but when you think of the most
Speaker 2: distinct voices in the history of ESPN, Dick Vintown, Chris Berman,
Speaker 2: and you can throw mel Kiper in there. Not traditional
Speaker 2: broadcasting voices, but the impact that they've had. And mel
Speaker 2: is rapid fire. He's been a machine gun ever since
Speaker 2: I've known him. With all that information, he has too
Speaker 2: much information. And Dicky V glad he's feeling better. You know,
Speaker 2: his delivery, and then Chris Berman his delivery as well.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Mel Kuiper draft expert coming up.
Speaker 2: Before the break. We were teasing you that's a term
Speaker 2: in the business to keep you with your radio tuned
Speaker 2: into us or your TV on. Scottie Pippen and Scottie
Speaker 2: Pippen Junior one Scottie Pippen s c T T I
Speaker 2: E Pippen the original and then his son Scotty sc
Speaker 2: O T T. Why Pippin junior? But if they're junior
Speaker 2: and senior, then why the difference?
Speaker 3: Pauli. And now we go to the name for an.
Speaker 2: It go The motto of our news team is fast
Speaker 2: and wrong is still fast.
Speaker 3: Let's go to the neucer, Pauli, Dan.
Speaker 6: We had to quickly look into the story. Scotty Pippen
Speaker 6: Junior is on the Memphis Grizzlies. His name on his
Speaker 6: birth certificate is not scott it's Scotty s c O
Speaker 6: T T. Why his father, Scottie Pippen always went by
Speaker 6: s C. O. T. T.
Speaker 3: I E.
Speaker 6: Going back to the NBA draft, Dan, were you at
Speaker 6: the draft with Pippin?
Speaker 2: I was interviewing Pippin when he got traded for Olden
Speaker 2: Polonies and they changed hats. They were sitting in the
Speaker 2: bleachers and all of a sudden somebody said, wait, you
Speaker 2: just got traded. And then all of a sudden, Olden
Speaker 2: Polonies and Scottie Pippen changed hats and it went from
Speaker 2: what Seattle to the Bulls Bulls to Seattle.
Speaker 6: Okay, so on during that draft when the commissioner, David Stern,
Speaker 6: your buddy announced Scotty Pippen being drafted out of I
Speaker 6: think Central Arkansas. Here's how it sounded.
Speaker 10: The Seattle SuperSonics select Scott Pippen of Central Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Scott Pippen from the University of Central Arkansas, Scott Pippen Scott.
Speaker 6: I went back and checked, Scott Pippen is not his name.
Speaker 6: His birth certificate says Scott.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 6: Scotty Pippen from the Bulls se Ott why? During college
Speaker 6: he noticed that people ignored the why, and he thought
Speaker 6: by going with Ie, they notice it and call it
Speaker 6: by his own name, Scotty more often did not work
Speaker 6: on draft night. When he had a son, he decided
Speaker 6: to name him the same as him, se Ott. Why
Speaker 6: so Scotty Pippen, by design, misspells his own first name.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, back to you, Okay, clears that a lot? Yeah
Speaker 2: it does, Yeah, it does. By the way, best and
Speaker 2: worst of the weekend? What you saw that you like,
Speaker 2: we'll get to your phone calls. It's draft week. There's
Speaker 2: still a lot of questions here. It feels like cam
Speaker 2: Ward's going number one. Then all of a sudden it
Speaker 2: gets interesting. And boy, for the life of me, one
Speaker 2: of my best sources just is not coughing up information
Speaker 2: here because I keep saying, you got to help me here.
Speaker 2: What's going on with the Browns? And he said, Mum's
Speaker 2: the word, Mum's the word. And I said, okay, Abdul Carter,
Speaker 2: he said, I don't know Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So you got the second pick, and that really is
Speaker 2: going to shape the draft if they would take you know,
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter or they I don't think they're taking a quarterback,
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. Are they open to a trade? I'm sure
Speaker 2: they are, But who wants to go up there? And
Speaker 2: who are they going to get that might not be there.
Speaker 2: There's almost like a hey, we didn't get Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: we got Abdul Carter, or we didn't get Abdua Carter,
Speaker 2: we got Travis Hunter. Like it feels like that is
Speaker 2: where the Giants are now, Okay, they do work out
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders, and everybody's looking at the timing of that.
Speaker 2: I didn't read much into that. I think they wanted
Speaker 2: to have their own day with him, and they got it.
Speaker 2: I think why not let other teams think that you're
Speaker 2: interested in Shadoor? But I think that that's what's curious
Speaker 2: about that is the game that's being played. If you're
Speaker 2: the Giants, you already have a couple of quarterbacks, are you.
Speaker 2: If you're sure about Shador Sanders, then you take him.
Speaker 2: I don't buy into this, Hey, maybe he'll be there
Speaker 2: at the end of the first round. If he's the
Speaker 2: guy you want, then draft him. We'll trade back into
Speaker 2: the first round. I don't buy that he's either your
Speaker 2: guy because if you're going to trade back into the
Speaker 2: first round, if you're the Giants, that's the guy you
Speaker 2: want your quarter you're going to be your future quarterback,
Speaker 2: then make sure you get him if you really feel
Speaker 2: that good about him. But you know, you're starting to
Speaker 2: look at and mel Kiper does the best players, he
Speaker 2: doesn't go. That guy should go here like Ashton Genty.
Speaker 2: He's got as a top five talent, but that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean he's going in the top five. Now I think
Speaker 2: that he's probably going to the Raiders, which I think
Speaker 2: all along we felt that it's like the Steelers. Are
Speaker 2: the Steelers taking Jackson Dart If Shador Sanders is there,
Speaker 2: are they going to I've also told this about Aaron Rodgers. Now,
Speaker 2: once again, I'm going to say this as it was
Speaker 2: a conversation, not a report. It was conversation because I'm saying,
Speaker 2: so what's Aaron Rodgers waiting for? And I was told
Speaker 2: by a source. Now this is just his thought on this,
Speaker 2: and that is he doesn't want a situation like what
Speaker 2: happened in Atlanta with Michaelis Junior Kirk Cousins. They sign him,
Speaker 2: he's ready to go, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's like wait a minute, here, Rogers, I think wants
Speaker 2: to play two years. If he's going to play, wants
Speaker 2: to play two years. You don't want to go into
Speaker 2: a situation and once again, this is just a source
Speaker 2: and his thoughts on this, that Rogers doesn't want to
Speaker 2: sign with Pittsburgh and then Pittsburgh takes a quarterback in
Speaker 2: the first round, whether that's Jackson Dart, Shador Sanders. Because
Speaker 2: Rogers this happened to him in Green Bay with Jordan Love.
Speaker 2: He's thinking he's getting a wide receiver. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he's getting another quarterback. And I think, granted at Rogers age,
Speaker 2: he has no real power in this situation where hey,
Speaker 2: I'll sign, but you can't take a quarterback in the
Speaker 2: first round. And once again, this is just conversation that
Speaker 2: I had on Saturday, whether it's true or not, whether
Speaker 2: it comes to fruition, because we're all wondering what's Rogers
Speaker 2: waiting for. And the only thing I can think of,
Speaker 2: and I've said this for weeks, is he would wait
Speaker 2: until after the draft. At first, I thought, hey, he's
Speaker 2: going there, he's interviewing, he's spending six eight hours, and okay,
Speaker 2: I think that's more of a I want to come in,
Speaker 2: I want to see everybody. I want to talk to everybody.
Speaker 2: I want to see what you do in the draft. Now,
Speaker 2: once again, this is not a report. It's just reading
Speaker 2: into this and trying to figure out what is the
Speaker 2: storyline here, what's the logic? And I try not to
Speaker 2: use that with Aaron Rodgers, like what's the logic here?
Speaker 2: But if you say, all right now, I know what
Speaker 2: I have here, who I have here. I've spoken to
Speaker 2: the coach, I've spoken to the GM, spoken to ownership here,
Speaker 2: all right now, let me see what you do in
Speaker 2: the draft. Because if I'm Aaron Rodgers, are you getting
Speaker 2: somebody who's going to help me? If I'm your quarterback?
Speaker 2: Are you going to draft my replacement? And I'm not
Speaker 2: even there to be replaced yet? And I think what
Speaker 2: happened to Kirk Cousins in Atlanta is something that Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers is probably at least aware of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, pulling, but it seems counterintuitive based off what you're
Speaker 6: saying there. If Aaron Rodgers tells the Steelers, I don't
Speaker 6: know what I'm doing, they have to look at a
Speaker 6: quarterback with the twenty first pick of the draft. If
Speaker 6: somehow he agreed to terms with them today, he could say, well,
Speaker 6: we're going to support the offense, but the twenty first
Speaker 6: pick correct and he would have some type of yeah,
Speaker 6: but he.
Speaker 3: Had power in Green Bay and they took his replacement.
Speaker 3: This is different.
Speaker 2: I think he's just saying, if I'm going to play,
Speaker 2: I'm going to play for you guys, but I want
Speaker 2: to make sure that if you're drafting a quarterback, then
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'll just retire. I think he's still
Speaker 2: holding out hope of whatever happens in you know, training camp,
Speaker 2: first couple of weeks of the season. Can I come
Speaker 2: in and you know, lead the team to the promised Land.
Speaker 2: Can I come in and let's just say the Rams,
Speaker 2: something happens to Matthew Stafford, because that's a playoff caliber,
Speaker 2: super Bowl caliber team, then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: can just come in, come to the rescue because we're
Speaker 2: all trying to figure out what is happening, what's logical
Speaker 2: to happen in this situation. And that was the only
Speaker 2: thing that I could come up with with Aaron is
Speaker 2: I'm waiting to after the draft, and he probably wants
Speaker 2: to wait as long as he can because maybe Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: isn't the ideal place for him, but he's.
Speaker 3: Run out of options.
Speaker 2: It's like, who would have thought that Bill Belichick wouldn't
Speaker 2: have an option to coach again. And what did I
Speaker 2: say to you on this show? He will not coach
Speaker 2: in the NFL again, Whether that's true or not. He
Speaker 2: went to college and nobody thought he was going to
Speaker 2: go to college. I didn't think he was going to college,
Speaker 2: but I didn't think he was going to be welcome
Speaker 2: back to the NFL because that's not the way the
Speaker 2: NFL is now here.
Speaker 3: You go, Bill, do whatever you want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Marvin, does Aaron Rodgers have any more college eligibility left?
Speaker 2: I don't think, so go back and maybe play for Carolina,
Speaker 2: play for Belichick. Well, who knows in the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: And here's another thing to keep an eye on. I
Speaker 2: know Tennessee had this situation with their quarterback and when
Speaker 2: we get to July, the nil like things are changing
Speaker 2: and the amount of money you can get, you better
Speaker 2: get it now before July because it gets capped. That's
Speaker 2: why you probably have that situation where their quarterback said,
Speaker 2: I went from two to four million dollars and they
Speaker 2: all of a sudden said to Niko, you know we're
Speaker 2: gonna pass Josh Hipel, Yeah, We're gonna pass. And then
Speaker 2: UCLA reportedly is going to bring him in which I
Speaker 2: found interesting that UCLA is spending some money now that
Speaker 2: you're in the Big ten and you got to step.
Speaker 3: Up a little bit here.
Speaker 2: They maybe you're going to bring him in, but they're
Speaker 2: going to cap it in July, and you're gonna have
Speaker 2: these kids who are going to say, I think I'd
Speaker 2: like a little bit more money. And then it's going
Speaker 2: to be up to these you know, gms of these
Speaker 2: college teams. Now, the fact they have general managers in college,
Speaker 2: it's wild. They're all doing it. You know, you had
Speaker 2: an athletic director. Now you gotta have a GM of
Speaker 2: your football team, but nil and the amount of money
Speaker 2: that you can get and these players this is their
Speaker 2: last cash grab.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pauline, Yeah.
Speaker 6: When I that story broke last week, I saw it
Speaker 6: and I think the shocking part was that Tennessee has
Speaker 6: a quarterback who leads them to ten wins and they
Speaker 6: don't pony up. You know, I guess the kid didn't
Speaker 6: go to practice. Nico Amalieva, he just didn't go to practice.
Speaker 6: He wanted his two million to be four million. And
Speaker 6: it was almost weird to see an SEC team they say, no,
Speaker 6: we're gonna, We're gonna you blink. We're not gonna blink,
Speaker 6: and they let him go. It was it was a
Speaker 6: weird story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I get it, you know when you say
Speaker 2: nobody's above the program, because if you're the coach man,
Speaker 2: they gave him they doubled his salary.
Speaker 3: Well maybe I should do that and.
Speaker 2: Then somebody, you know, everybody has an exaggerated worth, you
Speaker 2: know when we think how valuable, Well, they can never
Speaker 2: live without me, and uh it's like, you know, I
Speaker 2: found that out at ESPN quickly when I left. They'll
Speaker 2: never replace me. And it's like, uh, hey, yeah, they
Speaker 2: they they replaced me, They replace everybody. And I think
Speaker 2: that's what Josh Heipel said, no, not going to do this,
Speaker 2: and he's done a great job in turning this program around.
Speaker 2: And I think that's where you have to have. These
Speaker 2: are the standards, these are the requirements. This is who
Speaker 2: we are. But you know, these players holding you for ransom.
Speaker 2: If one does it, you've just opened up the door.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, So going further with the nil contracts, are
Speaker 4: they going to say to themselves, Hey, if we get
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, you cannot ask this is the contract,
Speaker 4: this is the money you're going to get you cannot
Speaker 4: go in into next season ask for any more money
Speaker 4: than the money we're giving you going forward.
Speaker 2: You know, all of those things sound logical, like that's
Speaker 2: what you if you have a contract, standard contract. This
Speaker 2: is the contract. This is what you're getting paid. No
Speaker 2: negotiations here, even if you exceed expectations. But I mean,
Speaker 2: imagine if Travis Hunter was staying one more year at
Speaker 2: Colorado and he says, you know what I want this,
Speaker 2: I want five million, seven million dollars. What if Cooper
Speaker 2: Flag stayed another year.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: There's certain players that could ask for this and get this,
Speaker 2: but there's only a couple of those. But these kids,
Speaker 2: and what happens is you get the parents, You get
Speaker 2: an agent. Now all of a sudden, they're gonna get
Speaker 2: you more money. Hey, I'm gonna get your more money. Hey,
Speaker 2: if you can't get us more money, we'll get another agent.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what's going on. It's not just
Speaker 2: the kid who's asking for money. The parents are the
Speaker 2: agent is promising. Then all of a sudden, you're like,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like Aau all over again, where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, here come the parents again.
Speaker 2: I'm all for you get what you're worth. If somebody
Speaker 2: pays it, you're worth it, and if you want to
Speaker 2: ask for that money. But I do think there have
Speaker 2: to be guidelines. They have to be bumpers that say
Speaker 2: this is what you know, this is what this contract means,
Speaker 2: this is what you must live up to. Because you know,
Speaker 2: we have these players who sit out bowl games. Well,
Speaker 2: I understand if you're sitting out a bowl game, that
Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything. Are we going to get to the
Speaker 2: point where you get a player who decides to set
Speaker 2: out a bowl game where your team's in the playoffs
Speaker 2: And the answer is yes, that'll happen.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tom, I can't see it ever happening.
Speaker 5: But just like something would be performance based, you'd have
Speaker 5: to get everything in writing. But if you keep asking
Speaker 5: for more and more money, shouldn't it also work both ways?
Speaker 5: If you don't live up to your contract, you know,
Speaker 5: we're not going to take money away from you. You know,
Speaker 5: I don't know how that would sit with people. But
Speaker 5: if you think about it, why is it aways have
Speaker 5: to be you're giving me this, but I want this
Speaker 5: if I hit these spots. What if you don't reach
Speaker 5: the minimum levels of what the expected of you couldn't
Speaker 5: you also say, then you're not gonna get We're not
Speaker 5: going to give you all the money we agree to.
Speaker 3: Well, why don't we do that with other sports?
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Why are we just doing it for the college kids.
Speaker 2: Why don't if the Mets say to Juan Soto, hey,
Speaker 2: if you don't do this, then we're taking away, you know,
Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars.
Speaker 5: Hey, these are the incentives, and these are their decentives
Speaker 5: for if you've got good luck, never good good luck
Speaker 5: trying to get that.
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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Good morning mister Patrick. Hope and the boys had a
Speaker 10: great break. Well, you know, I was, you know, throughout
Speaker 10: I think the first quarter of Saturday's game, I was like, man,
Speaker 10: my bet, the weekend's gonna be awesome. I can't wait
Speaker 10: to get on the air and say the best of
Speaker 10: the weekend was this. And then the second, third, and
Speaker 10: fourth quarter were played and it's just embarrassing. It was
Speaker 10: just embarrassing to sit there, like by midway through the fourth.
Speaker 10: I'm like, what am I gonna say was the best
Speaker 10: of my weekend? You know, Like the Dodgers go two
Speaker 10: out of three in Texas, that's a big whoop, you know,
Speaker 10: but it's like, like, truly, honestly, I was embarrassed. It
Speaker 10: was shocking to see the Timberwolves going there and not
Speaker 10: just beat us by five. They slapped the hell out
Speaker 10: of us for three and a half quarters and did
Speaker 10: not let up.
Speaker 3: I'm worried for tonight.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna sit back and just pray the entire time,
Speaker 10: and you know, hopefully we do not embarrass us once again.
Speaker 3: Joy have a great week. Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: I hope the Lakers aren't surprised at the physicality of
Speaker 2: Minnesota Pistons at the Knicks tonight, Clippers at the Nuggets.
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 3: Eric and Wisconsin? Hi Eric, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: Good morning, gentlemen, And I say that lightly. Hope you
Speaker 7: gentlemen had a great Easter weekend. Have you guys ever
Speaker 7: had a best and worst and had such distain for
Speaker 7: both teams? Let's start with my best, the Boston Celtics.
Speaker 7: They just put the entire NBA on notice. We are
Speaker 7: still the raigning champions. You're gonna have to come take
Speaker 7: this out of our dying hands. My worst of the weekend,
Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh still is. And I'm going to preface this,
Speaker 7: gentleman with saying.
Speaker 11: I'm an old school cow boys say and I am
Speaker 11: a lifelong hater of the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I had
Speaker 11: such respect for them and the way they went.
Speaker 7: About business with Rocky Blyer, ELC and Swan and the
Speaker 7: gentleman that how can they let Aaron Rodgers hold them hostage?
Speaker 7: It just perplexed me, Fellows to the point. And I'm
Speaker 7: a bed written cancer fear our cancer patient and I'm
Speaker 7: sitting here and I'm just it just makes me scratch
Speaker 7: my head when I can move my hands. How such
Speaker 7: a proud franchise have a loud this gentleman and go
Speaker 7: back to the great soldiers?
Speaker 3: What have you done for me lately?
Speaker 7: I can't think of the last good year that Aaron
Speaker 7: Rodgers had. It's almost like the Green Bay Packers had
Speaker 7: foresight to see what he was going to become. I'm
Speaker 7: a love for you during to comment on it. I'm
Speaker 7: just gonna sit back and listen as I changed scratching
Speaker 7: my head.
Speaker 2: Thank you Eric, Thank you. Help you feel better after
Speaker 2: getting that off your chest. Look, I've said this about
Speaker 2: the Steelers set a deadline, and you're the Steelers. They
Speaker 2: obviously didn't, but he did come in. And I have
Speaker 2: to look at both sides of this. Do the Steelers
Speaker 2: want him? How much do they want him? Do they
Speaker 2: want flexibility here? Not getting locked in? If let's say
Speaker 2: Shadoor Sanders falls in their lap?
Speaker 3: What are they going to do?
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart? What if Kirk Cousins becomes available? You got
Speaker 2: to wait until the draft is over. And at first
Speaker 2: I thought Aaron was going to make up his mind.
Speaker 2: That I realized and I'm just told he'll be after
Speaker 2: the draft. I think Aaron wants to see what happens.
Speaker 2: Steelers want to see what happens. And maybe, you know,
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is just being quiet because he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to tell us anything. Aaron's not really saying mine. It
Speaker 2: feels like there's almost this gentleman's agreement of I like you,
Speaker 2: I like you, I don't know if I love you.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to go all in
Speaker 3: on this.
Speaker 2: Whether that's from Aaron's side to the Steelers side, feels
Speaker 2: like more from aaronside. But I just don't think Aaron
Speaker 2: wants to go into a situation where what Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: went in, you know, found himself in in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Yes, Mark, Now Aaron Rodgers actually signs with the Steelers,
Speaker 4: what are your realistic expectations, because I'd be furious if
Speaker 4: I was a Steelers fan and it'd be all this
Speaker 4: for you to go nine and eight.
Speaker 2: I guess I'm going to expect maybe ten wins, maybe eleven.
Speaker 2: You know, the problem is they got you know, the
Speaker 2: quarterback play wasn't great. Well, actually defense wasn't great, I
Speaker 2: don't think and those they lost what four of their
Speaker 2: last five? I mean, they could have easily won eleven
Speaker 2: or twelve games. Then all of a sudden, do you
Speaker 2: keep your quarterback? Do you keep ross? If they win
Speaker 2: twelve games, I don't know how close it was where
Speaker 2: they and they got rid of everybody. They got rid
Speaker 2: of both of their quarterbacks. So they clearly have a
Speaker 2: direction they want to go in. And I felt all
Speaker 2: along that's through the draft. But if you can get
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, and let's say you get Aaron Rodgers for
Speaker 2: two years and you developed somebody Okay, then maybe they'll
Speaker 2: find their quarterback of the future.
Speaker 6: Yeah, paul I mentioned this before, but the Steelers on
Speaker 6: December first had ten wins. The Baltimore Ravens on December
Speaker 6: first had eight wins. They both Steelers lost their last four,
Speaker 6: Ravens won their last four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had an opportunity.
Speaker 2: Ye, So, but that's a really tough division. The Bengals
Speaker 2: didn't make the playoffs, and you know, is that going
Speaker 2: to happen three years in a row? The Ravens, they're
Speaker 2: still going to be good? How good can the Browns
Speaker 2: be respectable? And then if you're the Steelers, you're like,
Speaker 2: where do we fit in here?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 2: I think they fit right in there. But a window
Speaker 2: of opportunity closing rapidly. Coming up, we'll talk some playoff basketball.
Speaker 2: Chris Haynes, Senior NBA Insider. Final hour of the program,
Speaker 2: mel kiper Draft expert will stop by as well more
Speaker 2: phone calls on a Monday Best and Worst of the
Speaker 2: Weekend Hour two right after this