WEBVTT - The Return to Podcasting

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the Shotgun Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of setup work that we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make a tournament work. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to demonstrate to you just exactly how we do a

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun start here.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are we?

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<v Speaker 1>Alright? Alright, alright, gentle mans, darn your.

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<v Speaker 2>Greetings, and welcome to a Monday edition of The Shotgun Start.

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<v Speaker 2>It is August twenty fourth, Andy, how are we doing, Brendan?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>You're back? Oh, don't worry about me. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a surprise return, you know. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>like getting right back in there Ronnie Lott cutting his

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<v Speaker 2>finger off and coming right back in the game. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an early return here. You're gonna hobble and gut it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I don't know if I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back full time. I don't know. Three days a week

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be right now. We're still adjusting, but but

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<v Speaker 1>we're back for tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's alike? Your dad, you left us. Last

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<v Speaker 2>time you were here, we were I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>we were doing. We were shouting about di amateur Tyler

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<v Speaker 2>fachie stuff, and now you're back and you're a dad.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you? How's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what, Frank Strafaci, you know, in all seriousness,

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<v Speaker 1>is an unbelievable experience. Obviously it's a it's our first kid,

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<v Speaker 1>our baby girl, and uh, it was unbelieve It's been

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<v Speaker 1>just an amazing week. And and I think everybody always

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<v Speaker 1>tells you what it's going to be like, what it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, my feeling is that nothing anybody can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you will ever prepare you for how amazing the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of becoming a father is. And uh, sure really

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<v Speaker 1>cool week, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Good where everybody's happy for you. All that unsolicited advice,

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<v Speaker 2>all that unsolicited commentary about oh you won't believe this,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to do that, it didn't prepare you for it. No,

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<v Speaker 2>like you thought you didn't ask for and didn't want.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure nothing can compare it can prepare you for

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<v Speaker 1>that first night in the in the hospital when when

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<v Speaker 1>the nurses aren't around and you got the baby's crying,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta gotta feed the baby. And I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning up a dirty diaper for the first time on

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<v Speaker 1>my own. It's just that was nothing could prepare you

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<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing can prepare are you for you know, basically not

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping for the first two nights while they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>up and yeah. So it was funny. I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to you and Chane when Friday's pot and your advice was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to use the nursery. And I turned to

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<v Speaker 1>turn to Kaylei I go, you know, I just listened

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast of the Oh no, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be on her bad side. I gave us was

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<v Speaker 1>to use the nursery. And we we didn't use the nursery.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't think we did much the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>By the fourth time, we were just like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>the baby's born. It's like we're put in the car

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<v Speaker 2>when we're going home. Otherwise, you know, you guys take

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<v Speaker 2>care of it. Yeah no, but that's good. Everybody's happy

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<v Speaker 2>for you, very very congrats, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Ready to talk golf. I've watched a ton of golf,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the baby just laying and sleeping, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd find myself watching a lot of coffee golf. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't watch a ton of the Northern Trust, I uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did watch a lot of coffee golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you have watched a lot of the Northern US

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<v Speaker 2>if you hadn't become a newborn dad this week anyways?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I tuned into some of it this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit here and there. Obviously i'd be dustin.

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan's performance was astounding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing. Let's talk about women. Should we mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>coffee golf? Let's talk about the women's Open. Sophia pop Off,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got that right. Pop Off? Pope? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it popa? I think it's Popoff? So Fia pop Off German.

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<v Speaker 2>She went to usc she almost gave up golf last

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Truon was just a fabulous watch. Pop Off

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of inspiring to watch. Down the end. There

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a lot of drama, you know. She separated herself

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<v Speaker 2>a bit, you know, even when it looked like it

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<v Speaker 2>might get dicey. She burnied back to back holes to

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of push a head, you know, Truan. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you find yourself in a pop bunk or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>big margin can become small quickly. But it never really

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<v Speaker 2>felt too dramatic. It's just still great, a great morning

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<v Speaker 2>watch all weekend, you know, not just pop off. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about I don't think no, we didn't on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>but over the weekend Saturday, she didn't drive her off

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<v Speaker 2>the deck. It was just great to wake up to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Lindsay Weaver had a ridiculous hole out from

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<v Speaker 2>some junk on the green side. Minji Lee had an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing up and down from the on the postage stamp.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a lot of great golf to watch

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<v Speaker 2>and then a great champion to a great story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it is awesome golf, and obviously the story

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<v Speaker 1>is going to get headlines where you know, she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in the field until what a week ago she was

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<v Speaker 1>caddying at Enverness. She almost quit golf. She didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a PGA or an LPGA Tour card. She had earned

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars in her entire LPGA career and then

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<v Speaker 1>earned six hundred thousand this week. Like there are all

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<v Speaker 1>these really amazing things about her, when what I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of found the most amazing was this wasn't she got

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<v Speaker 1>hot on Sunday and stuck up on everybody. This was

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<v Speaker 1>she She distanced herself on Saturday, slept on the lead

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, we see these you know remember uh

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Connolly a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, Like we see stuff like this, Yeah, we see

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like this happen, but then we rarely see the

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<v Speaker 3>person the no name like Jason Gore or the who

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<v Speaker 3>was the guy that was wearing the bell bottom pants,

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<v Speaker 3>the O six wing foot Fairy, Kenny Fairy. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we see these guys get into contention offen like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not irregular to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it's so you know, she just she played

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<v Speaker 1>great on Sunday. She absolutely put on a clinic on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was, you know, coming down the stretch just

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<v Speaker 1>it was stress free. It was green, fair fairway green,

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<v Speaker 1>fairway green. And then on eighteen I loved the putt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from off the green. It was just so sensible,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that. It was just amazing to see somebody

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<v Speaker 1>with so few credentials play so calm and cool and

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<v Speaker 1>collected under the gun and under that major championship pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>So conditions got a little better. It wasn't like the

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<v Speaker 2>sixty mile bar our gusts they're expected on thirdy, but

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<v Speaker 2>she went sixty seven sixty eight on the weekend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're talking about sleeping on the lead. She came out,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you like seventy two? She didn't even you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight pretty much backed it up. You know, Bogie's

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<v Speaker 2>the last kind of as a more of the sensible play,

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<v Speaker 2>as you would suggest. One thing I found like the

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<v Speaker 2>story's great any year. The story is just awesome. She's

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<v Speaker 2>in tears after the round, said, you know, I really

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was going to quick golf last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she has no status, but I thought it was great,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in this year. It's not a great year for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. You know, it's not a great

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<v Speaker 2>year for the regular Joe. It's not a great year

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, Roger Sloane. His wife can't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>walk inside the walk and watch him shoot seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>at the Windham Championship. It's not a great year for

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<v Speaker 2>just a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable comment.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that PG Tours abandoned the family aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so sad that my wife can't come ontch this

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic with you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, uh, but from a golf perspective, it's especially hard

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<v Speaker 2>and challenging and you know, fraught with trouble if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have status or you're on a lower tour, on

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<v Speaker 2>some up and coming tour, and we've seen this. It's

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<v Speaker 2>especially difficult the local IQ tour. They cobble together the

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<v Speaker 2>web tour guys. They have no chance of advancing. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that. But she's like grinding out starts on the

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<v Speaker 2>Semetra tour, caddying on the LPGA went in Cactus to

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<v Speaker 2>her playing Cactus tour. So I think like in this year,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when there is so much, the barriers are even

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<v Speaker 2>higher to just having a career, to having opportunity a

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<v Speaker 2>win like this, and this moment is I think even

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<v Speaker 2>heightened more than the story is made even amplified by

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<v Speaker 2>by that the current circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially she's thinking about quitting. It's like how easy

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<v Speaker 1>would have been to quit this year when the world's

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<v Speaker 1>shut down and golf shut down for what it was

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<v Speaker 1>a three months four months?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what we hear so much about the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>impact that agents told us, like the people on the fringes,

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<v Speaker 2>people like person like this will quit with with really

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<v Speaker 2>like those pathways closing off more than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that she's actually not in the US

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<v Speaker 1>Open or a NA inspiration fields right now the wind

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get her into those two of the next three majors.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Beth Anne Nichols wrote an article about it. But she's

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<v Speaker 1>not in those fields. That's got to change, is it.

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<v Speaker 2>A So it's a chronological thing, right, So the Women's

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<v Speaker 2>Open would usually come after this, so it would get

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<v Speaker 2>her in the next one, the twenty twenty one Open.

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<v Speaker 2>In an I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know what it is, but it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for she needs to be in those fields.

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<v Speaker 2>Presumably she gets five year exemptions or something to all

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<v Speaker 2>the other majors, right, But it probably doesn't start till

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<v Speaker 2>next year because this is usually the last women's major,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe second to last. I don't know if the the

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<v Speaker 2>oncomes after that. It's because of the order, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>same issue with Burger, which we'll talk about, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Burger is probably in for next year. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that later. Anything else on the Women's Open.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just, I just I was enthralled by by

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<v Speaker 1>the golf all week. I was up very early in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning because of a newborn baby, and I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself watching a lot of the golf, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>great byproduct of it, and you know, I napped in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon, and uh, it was. It was awesome. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun to watch. I've enjoyed the the women's

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<v Speaker 1>return to golf capitalized so much in the last.

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<v Speaker 2>Not clear if they did an official campaign. They demanded

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<v Speaker 2>journalists capitalize it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's under you know, not capitalized, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's bolded.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows. Yeah, so what You've enjoyed the whole thing on.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I loved is, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>played on three of the four weeks, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the other course in Toledo, I forgot what the name

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<v Speaker 1>of it is, but you know, they played Inverness Renaissance

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<v Speaker 1>Club and truon three of the four weeks that they've

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<v Speaker 1>been back. There are three world class golf courses, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been so much fun to watch. And I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of found myself and I wrote something. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when it will go up. I was so inspired

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote something today, which is a rarety these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Geez, you got a kid and you're writing and you're

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<v Speaker 2>podcasting four or five days later. Impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things I couldn't I couldn't help

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<v Speaker 1>but think watching you know, having watched a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>this golf tournament and watched a lot of Inverness, is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're a diehard baseball fan, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>better than, you know, playoff baseball, where everybody's scratching for

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<v Speaker 1>to win on the margins, where executing that hit and

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<v Speaker 1>run moving the runner from first to second is like paramount.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the women's game of golf is

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<v Speaker 1>like that, especially on these great courses, where every little

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<v Speaker 1>thing matters and every aspect of their game is being examined.

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<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't help, especially with the direction with Bryson. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>DJ had an unbelievable performance. This is not at all

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<v Speaker 1>meant to take away from DJ's performance, but the PGA Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, just thinking about the baseball comparison is

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<v Speaker 1>moving itself more and more towards home run derby, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's just get up to the ball, hit it as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you can, and wedge it up there. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's becoming so much less interesting for a die hard

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<v Speaker 1>fan than that game where you know, being on one

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<v Speaker 1>side of the fairway matters because you have to approach

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<v Speaker 1>a green with a fronting bunker. That doesn't matter when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a lobwadge in your hand every hole. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it does matter when you're coming in with a lower

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<v Speaker 1>trajectory club. And we saw at Truon like it was

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<v Speaker 1>really neat, And you saw it with mb Park's post

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<v Speaker 1>round interview. They asked her, you know, she got, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really tough. And we saw it like they're hitting

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<v Speaker 1>long irons into these greens coming down the stretch and

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<v Speaker 1>the men, you know, they're hitting wedges. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>the same. And you know, hitting a wedge into a green,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's not that much that can go wrong, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to mess up with a wedge, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this this game has I think so much potential.

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<v Speaker 1>The women's game, I think is I kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>started to think about it in the way tennis. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously tennis had a big revolution with the composite racket

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<v Speaker 1>and the modern strings, which led to the men's game

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<v Speaker 1>becoming so power dominant, you know, where it became just

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<v Speaker 1>serve and volley and there's you know the popularity of

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<v Speaker 1>the men's game diminished so much, and what who won

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<v Speaker 1>from that was the women's game who still retained those

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<v Speaker 1>volleys and became you know, the women's game actually became

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<v Speaker 1>more popular. And because of that, you know, prize money

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<v Speaker 1>equaled out. The women get paid the same amount as

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<v Speaker 1>the men now and uh, you know the men ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>slowed the ball down to get their rallies back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that some of that nuance is

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<v Speaker 1>just being lost in the men's game. And you watch

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<v Speaker 1>the women and you know, women's distances line up pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well the nineteen eighties men's golf now right right, A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people say is the Golden Age of golf

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<v Speaker 1>the best decade of golf? And it's because different styles

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<v Speaker 1>are able to thrive. It's not just about how who

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<v Speaker 1>bashes it the furthest and straightest in a given week

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<v Speaker 1>and puttswell.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good era for euro golf too, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're talking about eighties, different kind of hell. Those

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<v Speaker 2>not the bigger hitter and you got a woozy was

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<v Speaker 2>like five something. You can smash it with the hard

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<v Speaker 2>hook and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Jack and Tom Watson, and you know, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you think about the women's game, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the next twenty years could be really it could really

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<v Speaker 1>grow in popularity. Because it's just more compelling golf in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>I think to your point, well, I mean this most

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<v Speaker 2>recent instant event, that's what's the most famous hole at true,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the post shamp, right, It's like this one that's

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<v Speaker 2>like extreme precision. Right, It's not like the thing to

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<v Speaker 2>mash it, right, it's this precision. Who can who can

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<v Speaker 2>make the smartest play, or who can decide to make

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<v Speaker 2>the ballsiest play? Or where do you find the middle line? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you go? And who can be the most

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<v Speaker 2>precise and who can execute it? And I think to

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<v Speaker 2>that point of my favorite shot from the week that

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<v Speaker 2>we can remember, the shot I'll remember most is a driver,

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<v Speaker 2>but his driver off the deck. It's just what that

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<v Speaker 2>got like fifteen feet off the ground and did this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rope around this front thing, you know, pot bunker.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of curled around beautifully. That's what I'll remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not again, Yeah, it's just a little bit to

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<v Speaker 2>your point on the smash and wedge.

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<v Speaker 1>The most interesting golf shots, the most interesting parts of

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<v Speaker 1>them in general, outside of maybe your slam dunks, are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones once the ball hits the ground, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>it's the most interesting. When the ball's rolling and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>driver wedge doesn't leave much for that, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're hitting a wedge that's just going up and stopping,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when the course is soft, you know, which we

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<v Speaker 1>see a lot of times with the PGA Tour. And

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk more about that in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, the other thing I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about is like, why are equipment money. I understand why

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<v Speaker 1>they are because of the eyeballs, but like, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an equipment company, why aren't women the ones that you're

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<v Speaker 1>paying tons of money to endorse because they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a high launching long iron makes a huge impact on

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<v Speaker 1>their game. Like DJ Rory all those guys, they could

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<v Speaker 1>hit a butter knife high and soft. They can do

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<v Speaker 1>things that, like what equipment they play, has no impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the general public because they don't have the same

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere near the same problems as them. Like these women

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<v Speaker 1>should be the the ambassadors of the game because they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, them having a long, a high launching long

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<v Speaker 1>iron is very relatable to the eight handicap who hits it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, two eighty and needs a long, a high

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<v Speaker 1>launching long iron to play par vibes better. Long par

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<v Speaker 1>three is better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're telling the eight handicap does not approximating talent.

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<v Speaker 2>No similar issue. I know what you're I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I want people to be clear about that that they're

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<v Speaker 2>You're not suggesting they're similar players in any way, but

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<v Speaker 2>similar styles and similar I don't know, similar issue, a

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<v Speaker 2>similar solution.

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<v Speaker 1>The club could be the thing about the women, like

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<v Speaker 1>they there are long there are Marius Fasci smashes it,

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<v Speaker 1>Lexi Thompson smashes it like they they are long hitters

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<v Speaker 1>out there, but they are so good at everything. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just incredible. How good they are, like the the dispersion,

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<v Speaker 1>like how tight, how small their misses are is just astonishing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, Okay, one other thing before we move on.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to talk about Lexi Thompson.

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<v Speaker 2>That was it. That's exactly where you are. We are

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<v Speaker 2>right back, Simpodico. Yeah, I didn't know. Yes, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I had. Fantastic, good to have you back in.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? What do you what are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 1>Explain what happened and then let's hear your thoughts and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the book.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a gesticulating you look ready to talk. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do that, all right? You want me to

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<v Speaker 2>set it up or sitting on adjacent abutting a tuft

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<v Speaker 2>of grass. It's tough, appears to be a wisp of

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<v Speaker 2>some sort. It's maybe eight inches tall. It's probably clumpy.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball is not on it. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>against it, right? Is that? Would that be accurate to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like against it? And it's otherwise I like the

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<v Speaker 2>word of butting, but it's otherwise like just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a burned out wash is area.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's now this thick rough, it's just that it's unmaintained

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tuft of grass.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very unpredictable lie. You'd look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of be like, hmm, I don't know what this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do because of this tuft of grass.

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<v Speaker 2>A little breezy. Maybe the tuft is swaying in the

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<v Speaker 2>wind gently, I don't know. But she takes the back

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<v Speaker 2>of her iron and just brushes at the tuft of

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<v Speaker 2>the grass that's touching her ball and does it again. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Now this this grass is, you know, eight inches in

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<v Speaker 2>the air. Her ball is whatever an inch, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So she's not necessarily really close to the ball, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's moving the grass, the clump that is touching her ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And when she addressed the ball a couple times pretty forceful,

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<v Speaker 1>takes the club off pretty fo like she put padded

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<v Speaker 1>it down, you know, like see I'm not saying she

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally patted it down, but it was not like a

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<v Speaker 1>soft address of the club. It was a pretty forceful address.

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<v Speaker 2>So then she she just kind of waves at it

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<v Speaker 2>with the back of her iron, you know, knocks the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what, I don't know. Necessarily, it was

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<v Speaker 2>looked very blatant to be sort of improving your lie

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<v Speaker 2>or trying to remove a hindrance, like you would like

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<v Speaker 2>a twig that's touching, you know, just taking the back

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<v Speaker 2>of your club and flipping a twig that was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of against your ball. It just and then hits and

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<v Speaker 2>then plays. And then I woke up to this. It

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<v Speaker 2>would have been Friday morning. I think we woke up

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<v Speaker 2>to this European twitters and a rough roar about it.

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<v Speaker 2>David Rickman, who I believe is the RNA rules person,

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<v Speaker 2>said there was no penalty because the ball. Did they

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<v Speaker 2>determine it moved. I don't know that they ever did

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<v Speaker 2>think they all they said was I think they came

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<v Speaker 2>back to a place where original it's original point. Wherever

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<v Speaker 2>it was, it was in its original point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the question becomes, was she improving or lie?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, right right. So this is against the backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>of DNA debacle, where she you know, mismarked her ball

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, twenty four hours later she gets

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<v Speaker 2>dinged with the four shot penalty, where you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think given the way that was sort of where that

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<v Speaker 2>punishment was handed out, she was certainly sympathetic figure in

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<v Speaker 2>that case. I think she should have like the way

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<v Speaker 2>it came about down, you know, as she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>the Sunday of a major and she's hearing about something

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<v Speaker 2>that happened twenty four hours ago. But there were certainly people, professionals,

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<v Speaker 2>professional commentators, Robert Dammeran among them, others who's like that

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 2>looked deliberate, that looked you know, death, a little sketchy,

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<v Speaker 2>a little sketchy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, where to put the ball back down? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Get get yeah there to get around something on the green.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you make of this? What do you

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<v Speaker 2>should there have been a penalty? So I'm not suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>this is there's some clear pattern of cheating, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think European commentators and rightly so we're bringing that up

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<v Speaker 2>in context of this one. So I go ahead, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you make of this?

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff shackle Firds pointing this out. I think is that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a big moment in the sense of how

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<v Speaker 1>it put this gray area into the game where you

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<v Speaker 1>know it it looked pretty clear that she was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not the I think the whole thing comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to this intent thing that with the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>we saw with like read and you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>intend to do this. It's or the anchor man, I've

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 1>got intending to anchor my putter. But yeah, right right,

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<v Speaker 1>but like the reality you didn't intend you you did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and like there's no doubt in my mind that what

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<v Speaker 1>she was doing was trying to improve her lie Like

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't do that kind of stuff. You could be

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>testing the way you took it over, but that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even look like that. You know, she was smashing down

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the grass behind the ball, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There was there was no like subtlety too, No, there

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 2>was no subtlety like it was even that someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>not super in competitive golf or familiar with the rules,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, whoa, whoa. That looks out of the ordinary,

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the way she's waving at that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really clear. When you are up against a tree,

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<v Speaker 1>if you knock like a leaf off, it's a penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>But grass is so much different because like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>knock it down, it's not a penalty. You know if

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<v Speaker 1>you and like it's not like a clear cut thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see the leaf fall or the branch fall,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, Okay, the branch fell, it's a penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not like, oh, she mashed down this tuft of grass

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>that made it easier for her to hit the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is not as clear because it's like, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it should have been a penalty. I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>rule really needs to be revisited and written more clearly

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.719
<v Speaker 1>because it seems like we've run into it now. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the rom situation was similar, but I think way different.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think John ram it was anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the like that was seems even whether.

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<v Speaker 2>His ball moved or he was like trying to fluff

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<v Speaker 2>it or adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>It, that seemed like an address of the ball. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you could say like he shouldn't address the ball

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But that comes back to a whole another

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<v Speaker 1>can of worm. This looked like this was out of

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>her ordinary routine and something she did to better hit,

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<v Speaker 1>hit a better shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also brings the light. It brings to mind

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 2>the read thing at Beth Page right when Costas is

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 2>on the broadcast like, well, I don't know like what

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>club he's hit or I don't know where this is

0:24:57.840 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>going to go, but I do know the why he's

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>hitting out of now was not the same one you

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<v Speaker 2>had five minutes or three minutes ago. And how do

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<v Speaker 2>you adjudicate that? I mean, if you get some rules

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 2>guys coming out at Pat Reid, they're gonna, you know,

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 2>try to bite their head off saying that, like how

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>do you determine it? Do you determine it? Is you

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 2>make it an intent? Do you make it? This was

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 2>too severe of padding a lie or messing around with

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a lie. If the ball I don't know, if the

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 2>ball moves, it's kind of like cut and dry right

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and doesn't come back to a spot like then we know.

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>But there's so much more gray area beyond that of

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>really improving your lie. I think in the rough at

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 2>a bet page seems like the most significant place where

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you can do it without you know, bringing on any

0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of punishment or bringing on watchful eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah, I mean I think she should have

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<v Speaker 1>been penalized.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think.

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the other aspect of this is after what

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>happened a couple of years ago. Yeah, there's a little

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>bit more less room for doubt, you know you kind

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>of it's a fool me once situation. I don't know,

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I always screw up the second half of that, so

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna leave it there, fool.

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<v Speaker 2>Me on such. I mean, I'm glad we talked about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any other Women's Open thoughts to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I'm well. The other thing I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the back half of what I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier is that, you know, last year we played,

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 1>they played this event at Woeburn, which was a disgrace

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>for the Women's British Open. We played at a parkland

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 1>course built in the fifties in England. So I think

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a big signal of I think this is a great

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 1>first step of golf and really embracing and promoting the

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>women's game is the upcoming schedule of Open championship courses

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that they're playing with Mirfield and Carnousti and the Old course.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Like it's really exciting because watching them play Troon was

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>part of the delight is that these great golf courses

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>amplify how great their golf product is.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Yep. I think the Women's Open has had a great

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>run of sort of champions stories. I would say the

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Chabuno Schabuno. I know the course is brutal last year,

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 2>but just smiling and her pace of play that was amazing.

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, this story pop off with giving it up

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>on the verge of giving up the game. Remember Moe

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Martin a couple of years ago. I want to say

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that was Birkdale and she like smoked that wood into

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 2>the par fives. You know she was not, you know,

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the most dominant talent, but a very good pro. It's

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 2>just kind of another amazing story. The Women's Opens really produced,

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 2>like the Men's Open produce some kind of wonderful champions

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>wonderful stories. And last I would say decade or so.

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<v Speaker 2>there in the rain delay. I'm not gonna lie. We

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>just started recording. You know, I've got some duties tonight.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got a child.

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>DJ leads They've got three holes to play, two holes

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to play. He's twenty nine under. He leads Harris English

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 2>by nine.

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>He's gone sixty seven, sixty disappointing, sixty sixty four looks

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>to be on pace for another meet sixty. He went

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 2>out in thirty. You know he's got two holes left.

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna get to Ernie? Is he gonna get

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to thirty one?

0:29:56.040 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Thirty? I don't know. Is it gonna be Brian Gant.

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>That's recording before all this drama has been settled. That's

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>maybe why we decided to records. We wouldn't be so

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 2>down about Brian Gay's record being shattered. So we don't

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>know for sure. Brian Gay last winner, double digit winner

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>on the PGA Tour that's we jumped the guns, so

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't have that added, you know, depression of his

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>record being bro.

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Harris English and DJ are talking about

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that right now, about Beg's uh Beach's record and whether

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Harris could could prevent it from from uh you know.

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I don't think they probably are

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>aware of the situation, unless Sean Martin, you know, text

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>with one of them about it. I doubt they're are aware.

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>So do you think he's gonna break Ernie? I don't

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>think he's got two birdie holes. He's got to go

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Bertie eagle to break Ernie's. I think I could very

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 2>foresee him tying it Tom Yeah, you know, But I.

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Mean the reality is it's a par seventy one versus

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>kappaloois par seventy three. So one of the things there

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, the it's an utterly astonishing performance,

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean incredible, and I I have to say the

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>golf course has been has taken a lot of heat,

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>It's gotten gotten beat up by people because of the scores.

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a natural knee jerk reaction. But like look at

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the DJ's nine. Clear he's clearly the best player there is.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Letting him get nine clear. The other thing that I've

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>been kind of impressed by. There have been big scores,

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Rory shot seventy four yesterday. Yeah, ZB

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>shot eighty on Friday after he shot four under the

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>first day. You know, like they're there, haven't It's not.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just utterly astonishing how good of golf DJ is played.

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's just so good when he's on like this.

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>It's just played well at the PGA. You know, this

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>isn't like some guy who just you know, slapping it around. Obviously,

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you don't get to twenty nine unders, you don't get

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>nine and clear. And he's you know, he's all around, right,

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>all around, tea green, he's been pretty good putting, and

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's, yeah, it's a legendary FedEx Cup performance.

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about.

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Legendary legendary FedEx Cup performance. This is just like you

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>know what Luca Dodgers is doing on the NBA, Like.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's broken. While we were recording, he drained something. Yeah,

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the three pointer went out.

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just just like that. I mean, this is this

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>is where the play playoff basketball is just like playoff

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 1>golf here, it's not it's not been you know, the

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>playoffs Here's what I'll say.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>The stakes seem low, but the guys who have won them,

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 2>he's slowed them here or there. You know, take away

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>like the players who win them are are often you know,

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>the top players that year.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I think, right, somebody text me and asked me, you

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>know about the playoffs. They're said, it seems like a

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of big names missed the cut this week. I'm like, well,

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like the top one hundred and twenty five guys,

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>so like, there aren't that many bad guys. There's no Yeah,

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>like we we don't have ten sponsors exemptions rolling into

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the field and Dandy Chopps and mister three hundred.

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Danny Chopps is on the call this week. I I

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>struggle personally to just get into these every year. I

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 2>just do. I like to I love. I'm not suggesting

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.959
<v Speaker 2>they're bad or what happened before them was, you know,

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>it's it's an improvement on you know, what existed in

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six. I personally just really struggle to

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>be enthused or into these. Even with DJ going for

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>a fifty eight, it was hard for me to get

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>into and that's just me. I'm not every year the

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Northern Trust just I don know. Last year stunk Pat

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Reid won, but the entire week was about slow play

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 2>that was juicy and enjoyable. Well, this year, DJ's like

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>putting on one of the great performances that. You know,

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 2>if we were to do a spotlight on him in

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty years, you know this will probably be at thirty

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 2>seconds of it, two minutes of it, right, it's going

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 2>to be a career achievement of some sort.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:21.240
<v Speaker 1>It'll be about DJ. And how it's His wins list

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is really incredible. I mean he won the Northern Trust

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago. Yeah, he's won a ton

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of wgc's.

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>He consistently plays great in major championships. Although he's only

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>won one, three or four could have gone his way.

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>He plays extraordinarily well. He is not the King of

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bees, as one player referred to Marcomira, like he

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>wins the A events and he can win them running away,

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>and that I am always amazed at guys that can

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>win golf tournaments by seven, eight, nine, ten shots like

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 1>that is extraordinary, especially against a field that has the

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>best players in the world. In it like, not often

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you see the best players in the world get lapped

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>by another player.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you do. You feel like him separating says anything

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>about TPC Boston. That's you know, people are gonna say

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>like separation. You know, usually identify, you know, identify as

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a course that identifies who's playing the best kind of thing.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Does that say anything to the course?

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think one of the things with DJ

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is he's never hitting He's rarely ever hitting less than

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.959
<v Speaker 1>a wedge into part four or more than a wet

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>like he's maybe I think it was he went a

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>year or two years without hitting it more than a

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>seven iron into part four.

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that's right.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, at this golf the reality is is that

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>if he has a good week with his driver and wedges,

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>he could go to this golf course and not carry

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a three, four and five iron and be fine. He

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 1>would still have won this tournament. If he just went

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to the golf course with a driver and seven iron

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 1>and below, he would have still won this week. And

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>that's the problem with the men's game right now, is

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>that it's just like that tennis analogy we talked about.

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>It's serve volley, it's driver, wedge. It just if one

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>of these power players has a good week with the

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 1>driver and wedges, it's over.

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's do a little quote roulette. As we're talking about

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 2>some of the problems with the game, maybe a little

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 2>apathy around the playoffs, we'll do a little quote roulette.

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 2>First up is Justin Thomas. He's broken sixty his quote.

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, after the scores on God, what was that Friday? Right,

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Scheffler fifty nine? DJ disappointing sixty right? I mean no,

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 2>it's incredible score right.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Incredibly eleven under through eleven.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable, you know, laid up on eighteen and parted a

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 2>bunch on the back. I don't know. People were just

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 2>he won by nine.

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 1>He's up by nine right now, He's gonna win by

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>between seven and ten shots or eleven shots on tour.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable, utterly unbelievable.

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 2>So here's Justin Thomas. I still find if DJ, What

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 2>if DJ doesn't win and we're pre recorded this, what

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 2>do we do? Do we have an have to happen?

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it'd make this pod that

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 2>much better, you know, just talking like some idiots. What

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>would have to happen.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>For that, he would have to like fall down the

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>stairs or something.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's happened before it can happen again.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I still think, here's Justin Thomas. I still think someone

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>is going to shoot fifty six or fifty seven or

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight on tour, whether it's in the next couple

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>of years or ten or fifteen. We're all getting so

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>much better, and especially if you get a place like

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 2>this with really good greens and it's soft. We're pretty

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>good with our distance control and pretty good at golf

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 2>to where if we get it rolling, who knows what

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>can happen. Here's Justin Thomas earlier this week speaking, I

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know where I think in his press conference. It

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>really bothers me when they say that the golf ball

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>needs to be rolled back, because there's plenty of people

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>that are still performing well that don't hit it as far.

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Length is not the answer, it's just helpful. You still

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 2>got to get the ball in the hole. His last point,

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 2>You still got to get the ball in the hole,

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>like negates everything that comes for it, Like yeah, and

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>hitting it three hundred and seventy five yards helps with

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 2>that as opposed to two hundred and fifty or two

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty five or two hundred sex that's the

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 2>point I think he doesn't get getting the ball in

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 2>the hole. Yes, that's the overall point. Be able to everybody,

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>every Tom Dick and Harry A camp Champ that can

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 2>hit it three seventy five helps like that helps more

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>people get the ball in the hole and shoot you know,

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.959
<v Speaker 2>kind of low scores maybe without their best game, right

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 2>or you're seeing fifty six, fifty seven to fifty eight,

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 2>because yes, the players are good and they're optimized and

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, better trained and more serious than ever

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 2>who knows, I don't know, but that's part of it.

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.959
<v Speaker 2>But it's also it has to do with the ball

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>going on well, that equipment sending the ball, making the

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>seventy five hundred and seventy eight hundred yard course seem

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>not that challenging.

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Shackelford had a great little blog post about about JT's

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>quotes where he talked about he's like, you know, titleists

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and the manufacturers pay these guys millions of dollars and

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't even bring up that we have great equipment

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 1>and these quotes, like he doesn't even mention, Oh, yeah,

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we have unbelievable equipment, you know, Yeah, that helps us

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>do this, and that's undeniable. Okay, like the equipment level

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>from this year compared to twenty years ago. These guys have,

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>whether it's not just the clubs and the ball, it's

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the it's the track man, it's the all this stuff.

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 1>But to just ignore that and say we're just so

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>much better we are, you know, it's just utterly ridiculous,

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>especially when this was the guy that was one of

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the most vocal about a center lined bunker on a

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>hole on this golf course. That's just you'lding thirty under

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that he said it was a bad design. It was

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>he didn't do a good job redesigning it. About Gil

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Hans's redesign where he put a central line bunker on

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a hole and everybody bitched, and he played it in

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>another fairway to avoid it. And it's like that's actually

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>doing something that's influencing the way these guys have to

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 1>play the game and making it some of them actually

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>have to think. And it's just a jt. He's a

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>great player. It's fun to watch it when he gets on.

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>It's fun to watch him play golf, but he regularly

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>turns in some of the worst quotes, and it goes

0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>back to when he kicked the fan out for a

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>simple you know, getting the bunker. It's just incredibly and

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I think some of this as just the PGA tour mentality.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>When you're twenty two and you get on tours, you

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have no perspective on what real life is.

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So well, someone who does has perspective, a little bit

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>more perspective, a little bit of advance. Tiger Rory this

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 2>year they've Tiger's to hear justice. I think he just

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>gets too aggressive about it, being like it really bothers

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 2>me when they say they got the ball, you know,

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 2>like you don't need to act like, you know, like

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>you've been insulted or affronted that someone said it, because

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>you know who said it this year, Riviera Roy McElroy

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 2>say bifurcation roll back. I don't know if you said

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 2>bifurcation rolling back the ball. He came out and said

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 2>it right away. Tiger many quotes you can find over

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the history of his career, as he got advanced, as

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 2>he's seen what his talent is versus what these up

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and comers are said we should play by you know,

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>bifurcation softball can use the metal bat, We'll use the

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 2>wood bat. All these are guys with a little bit

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>of perspective. Who's I guess they're quotes those quotes bother JT.

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 2>They piss them off that he they have he has

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 2>to hear about that from Tiger and Rory. I don't know.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you think swamp creatures?

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it something I was thinking about along

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>these lines. Do you think that there's any correlation possible?

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And this is just all just random thought, there's no evidence,

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>statistical evidence. Do you think it's a coincidence that Rory

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>hasn't won a major since twenty fourteen and we're the

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 1>equipment has just become more and more forgiving since then.

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.959
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's an impossible question to answer. I definitively,

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a mix of things. Is wandered in

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the wilderness mentally with putting with short with wedges, like,

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>he's had different things come in. I don't know. He

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 2>does pretty well on tour, He's won FedEx Cups multiple

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 2>he's won Player of the Years. You know, it's hard

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 2>to say definitively that that's why he hasn't won a major.

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder when you're the you know, one of

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the greatest drivers the golf ball of all time, and

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, equipment renders that skill less and less.

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just mitigates. Yeah, it mitigates the

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:18.320
<v Speaker 1>guy that hits it really solid and really straight with anything,

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>versus the guy that you know that high toe toe

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>driver goes five yards is still straight. You know.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 2>JT falls in that category two, right, He's not like

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 2>some scrub that's getting all the he's in the rory category.

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 2>He's probably being hurt.

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing I never understand about these guys.

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like a lot they I think it's like a

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>sales guy. If you tell a sales guy, I'm changing

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>your commission, their immediate reaction is that they're trying to

0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 1>take money away from me, you know, and it could

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>be the greatest commission plan of all time for them,

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but their first gut reaction is going to be like,

0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>they're changing this to take money away from me. And

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what happens with these tour pros, is

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:07.439
<v Speaker 1>that you know, it's not about it's just we want

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to separate you know the best players, like I don't know.

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of great guys out there. There

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of great players, but you just don't

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>really know. There's you don't know sometimes who is and

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>who isn't. Because the drivers now the easiest club to

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>hit in the bag, and it used to be the

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 1>hardest club to hit in the bag.

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Another quote quote Roulette, Tiger, you don't have the same

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>type of energy. Guys aren't shooting as high of rounds

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 2>as they normally would. That's Tiger, I'm gonna you know,

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 2>paraphrase him now saying some of the advantage he has

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.439
<v Speaker 2>with crowds being there versus not being there is gone

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 2>with no crowds because he's used to playing with people.

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 2>He's used to the ambient, you know, ruckus. He's learned

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 2>how to play with that for twenty five years or

0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 2>whatever it's been, you know, And he thinks guys are

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>shooting lower because they don't have to deal with that,

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 2>and some of his advantages have been wiped out by that.

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Interesting point.

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Rory had similar quote too, Do you have any Yeah, yeah,

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it bleeds in well with it. We could

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about just the no fan thing.

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>This is going to sound really bad, McElroy said, but

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the last few weeks, I've just been

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 2>going through the motions. I want to get to an

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.439
<v Speaker 2>intensity and some sort of fire, but I just haven't

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>been able to. Let's probably do with the atmosphere and

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 2>probably do with how I'm playing. I'm not inspiring myself,

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm definitely trying to get inspiration from outside sources

0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 2>to get something going on. I wonder who his outside

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 2>sources are. Who you could have come in start yelling

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.879
<v Speaker 2>at him. You know, maybe he's like Roger Sloan, Bob

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Parsons come in start yelling at him about trying to

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 2>get him pumped up by the time he was a

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 2>numb or something. That could be the lack of family atmosphere.

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. Uh So, Anyways, the Rory's uninspired

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs or with no fans this run the

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>back on the return to Golf All Caps and Tigers,

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.439
<v Speaker 2>saying his advantage is being you know, taken away because

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>guys are able to shoot lower scores. Guys are shooting

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 2>as high rounds as they normally would.

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Lebron had similar quotes about the NBA bubble too, yeah,

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>about how he's having trouble without fans, and it's it's

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>interesting that you hear it. You're hearing this from some

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest players and their respective sports. I think that,

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the end of the day, you should

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 1>be able to win in any circumstance.

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe an argument against the Andy Johnson campaign to fans

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 2>from all golf professional golf with Tiger and roriors.

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Should distractions be overcoming the exterior distractions in the way

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of fans be a big part of you know, championship golf.

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you think I mean, if you think.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 2>That, no, no, no, But I think there is something

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 2>to the energy perspective.

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 2>If you're the best in the world and you've done that,

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 2>you've won the biggest events in golf for say, I

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know Roy's case a decade or Tiger's case twenty years,

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 2>and you do it with sort of this crescendo and

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 2>energy around it when something good happens, that might you know,

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.919
<v Speaker 2>I think that matters, That the inspiration and energy part

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:19.479
<v Speaker 2>might matter.

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying that this is the case, but

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>look at the two major winners we've seen this year,

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>both of them very very little major championship experience.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:32.919
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about Maricle and pop Off.

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obviously, I think Markle is gonna be when Kelly

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 1>forgot about that, I forgot about the about the no

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>cut Major. Okay, he doesn't have a lot of champions

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:47.479
<v Speaker 1>Tour experience. He's only been out there for a couple

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 1>of years.

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>But you think about like pop Off and Mari Kawa

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:56.720
<v Speaker 1>there they were both you know, winners with very little

0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>experience in majors, And I would buy the coming down

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the stretch on a Sunday and a Major might be

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit easier without fans if you're a young player. Now,

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't know where I stand on

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.280
<v Speaker 1>whether that should. You know, I think that you're still

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>chasing history, you know, like all everything that nothing changed

0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>with what pop Off was going to accomplish today or

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 1>more account and like what came with that, and keeping

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and keeping that out of her mind for you know,

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>essentially all Night in eighteen holes is astonishing, and same

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 1>with moreccout. I just I don't know how I what

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 1>do you think about those quotes?

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I think I've already said yeah, I think it might matter.

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that they're accurate. I think it matters to

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the guys that are the best, that are used to

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 2>it or have the most reps with it. Right, I

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 2>think it does matter. I think it plays into it.

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>But the question is how to compete in that arena

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and learning. That's how that is the professional competition at

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 2>the highest level. This is all I've known my whole

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.720
<v Speaker 2>life and where I've succeeded, and it's it's a little

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>different now. That's all. It's the arena. It's not necessarily

0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's not the biggest factor. You still got

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>to hit the ball and put in the hole, as

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.840
<v Speaker 2>JT would say. But I think there is something to

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 2>it for the guys at the highest level.

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't. And here's where I struggle with it for

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 1>those two is that neither of them have contended. Yeah,

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.919
<v Speaker 1>it's not like they came up short against somebody down

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 1>the stretch and it mattered. These guys haven't been even

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>close to Roy.

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>A little bit of Colonial maybe, but that's it. I

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 2>think he didn't he touch the leaderboard Colonial.

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, you're right, You're right.

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 2>They've not been close.

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 1>They haven't. It'd be something if they if these guys

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:52.240
<v Speaker 1>each had three top fives. You know Tiger's only played

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say Tiger has one top five even but

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like they haven't even been close to the to the lead.

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.359
<v Speaker 1>So like to a certain extent, you're just not hitting

0:50:02.360 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the shots. You're not playing well enough to be in contention.

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Last bit, anything else on Northern Trust, last one I

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 2>got to get off his I made a joke on

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Wednesday preview show is smart and about how featured groups

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 2>are gonna be by FedEx Cup ranking. Right, So everybody's

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and Ricky's eighty eight. So how's Ricky Tour Live? You

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 2>know how they gonna get it, How they're gonna crow

0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:26.440
<v Speaker 2>barrow him in. Well, they waited until the weekend. Ricky

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Tour Live always comes through. I got several messages about this,

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:34.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe even some from people at the tour that Ricky

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.279
<v Speaker 2>was featured groups PGA Tour Live on Sunday morning. Didn't

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 2>have a chance in hell of making it. I think

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 2>he's out of the FedEx Cup, I believe. But he

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 2>got his last hurrah for Ricky Tour Live. They made him,

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 2>they crow bared him in.

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey, the golf has restarted.

0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>DJ Pard seventeen he's on to eighteen here, so Ernie

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 1>is safe, maybe maybe a tie with an eagle and

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.399
<v Speaker 1>BG Beach is not out of the woods yet though,

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>because Harris English part seventeen. So they come down the

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>stretch with Harry, Harry and DJ are are nine shots

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>apart to pay I think we could see a Harry Birdie,

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>DJ Eagle, DJ ties Ernie and Matt Remark's and takes

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>down Beg's long standing last player to win by double digits.

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, other events this, Hey, can we talk about

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs for a little bit more?

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, of course, it's just a yeah, it's playoff

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 2>winning time fex Cup.

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:41.399
<v Speaker 1>I just let's go. I hate the playoffs. I hate

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 1>the name.

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:44.839
<v Speaker 2>I hate you said you want to talk about him more.

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I knew something was.

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Hate the playoffs. I just I can't get over the name.

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.360
<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't be called the playoffs. It's not a playoff.

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Not everybody's on the level playground.

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean? What are you talking about?

0:51:58.719 --> 0:51:59.839
<v Speaker 1>No other sport.

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Because of the points, Yeah, but he starts a different spots.

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:06.799
<v Speaker 1>It's not a playoff. But if you tie, if you

0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>go to a playoff in a tournament, if Harris English

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 1>made a negative nine on eighteen or whatever he needs

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.240
<v Speaker 1>to to to tie DJ. They go to a playoff.

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:19.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not like DJ was leading for seventy one holes,

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>so he gets a seven shot lead. That's not the

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 1>way a playoff works. A playoff is like, okay, we

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:29.320
<v Speaker 1>go out and we see who wins, and everybody starts

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 1>from scratch, Like sure, there's like some advantage. Yeah, well,

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 1>whole court advantage is not the same. It's not like

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you get a game, you know, it's not like you

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 1>get three games.

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:41.879
<v Speaker 2>It's there.

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>So I pulled up some just famous playoff quotes, you know,

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I googled famous playoff quotes, you know, sports playoffs.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, what about track? What about swimming? Like if

0:52:54.160 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 2>you get the best qualifying, you get like the faster

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:57.359
<v Speaker 2>lane or something, you get a.

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Better lane, but you don't get a head start.

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 2>True, and then the other thing.

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:05.360
<v Speaker 1>They're commercial. They're stupid commercial.

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 2>It makes it a little intense.

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Like let me let me tell you something. You can play.

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.280
<v Speaker 1>The slogan's like you got to play well in three weeks.

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.919
<v Speaker 1>You can play like complete dog shit in two weeks

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>to still win.

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I know, I don't. Yeah, and there's like

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 2>a major championship too, And while doing that, they're saying

0:53:27.960 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>like those are only four rounds. This is you know,

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 2>twelve or you know.

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>It needs a new name. It's not playoffs. That's just

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm I've gotten to the point. Whatever. You can

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 1>keep your stupid format that sucks that nobody cares about.

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>But you can't call it playoffs anymore because the playoffs

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>are completely different. Okay, here's the play Carl Crawford, famous baseball.

0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Player, or no, I'm thinking of? Who am I thinking of?

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Joey Crawford?

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.360
<v Speaker 2>No, no, Carl Crawford. Go ahead.

0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Whatever happened in the regular season seems to not matter

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs.

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 1>You know what, the FedEx Cup, It really matters what

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 1>happens in the in the regular season.

0:54:19.960 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess what about Billy horstel Ship in the regular

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 2>season he won the Cup.

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm say, if there needs to be a clean slate

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:31.320
<v Speaker 1>if you make the playoffs, if it's if you wanted

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to be called the playoffs, it has to start from

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.439
<v Speaker 1>everybody has to start on the level ground. You could

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 1>give somebody the advantage of better tea times that could

0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>be like your home court advantage. You get a better

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>tea time. You know, you could pick who you play with,

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, but everybody's got to start from zero. That's

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that's a playoff, okay, all right here, here's your boy,

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>your boy Lebron. It would be easier if I didn't

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs, it would hurt less. But then I

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>start thinking about how much fun it is. Do you

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:06.840
<v Speaker 1>think anybody cares about whether they make the playoffs or

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:09.919
<v Speaker 1>not other than the fact that their cards associated with that?

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Well that's what I Yeah, I think advancing, I think

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the analogy better. They don't care if they get out

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 2>this like you think Phils like crying in his coffee

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:20.719
<v Speaker 2>today because he didn't get to go to Chicago. We'll

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 2>talk about him in a minute. But like they were

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to dramatize Charlie Hoffman's approach into eighteen today, like, oh,

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 2>he needs Eagle to advance. Like Charlie Hoffman, He's made

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a ton of money. He does not give a shit

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 2>if he played only one event or not. All he

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:37.280
<v Speaker 2>would have cared about in a normal year was getting

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 2>in right one twenty five. That's it. It's just yeah,

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Doc Chris Lebron loses first round, he doesn't get to advance.

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:47.479
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, somebody kicked him in the nuts. Yeah,

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a little different feeling, Doc Rivers. I love the

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 2>NBA playoffs. It's just a great mental test for each team.

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:57.120
<v Speaker 2>When it's really close, usually one team pulls together and

0:55:57.160 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the other team comes apart. Have we ever seeing somebody

0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 2>come apart in the under playoff pressure? Has that ever happened?

0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:07.799
<v Speaker 2>And actually that brings me to another point. I want

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 2>to bring up TPC Boston.

0:56:09.800 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It was great. You know, Northeast Northeast or wherever it

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 1>is in Massachusetts has essentially been in like a drought

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>all summer and it was like a pillow out there.

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 2>And if you have all these stats about telling me

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 2>all these parts of the country are in a drought

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 2>all the time, and I don't know, I can't fast

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 2>check you on the record on that, whatever your weather information.

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's always in the essentially in a drought. Ohio is

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.760
<v Speaker 2>in a drought. California like everybody's always in the drought

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 2>with you.

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>The best player won, right, okay, And everybody's yelling about

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 1>at least set up if it's the playoffs, set it

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:49.840
<v Speaker 1>up hard.

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 2>What do you Okay, Yeah, I know what.

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Is going on that? Like, you know, it's fine, Like

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>DJ was gonna win regardless of what they but like,

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:05.360
<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid to push these guys a little. The playoff.

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 1>That's like what makes playoff basketball or playoff baseball or

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 1>any playoff great is that it's the it's harder than

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the regular season. It's more intense conditions.

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 2>You see, Yeah, a file is not a file foul

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>in the regular seasons, maybe not a file in the postseason.

0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Or in baseball, you know, a pitcher has a leash

0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:27.920
<v Speaker 2>that's two innings, or you know bullpen guys come in

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the third inning nowadays or fourth inning, like yeah, they're

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 2>they're yeah, it's it's made more challenging, more intense. I

0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 2>get it. I guess what you're saying there.

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see a record scoring performance and DJ would

0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>have won regardless the way he played. We played fantastically

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 1>and really the golf courses job. But at least make

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it somewhat challenging. Don't make it a pillow.

0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:56.360
<v Speaker 2>You think they can just by fur Yeah the pillow.

0:57:57.280 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 2>You think they can make it a lot more challenging

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 2>than it was. Yes, just like soft firmness.

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you want like playoffs the greatest player.

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Or what they're working with is what I'm asking, Like,

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 2>how much more challenging can they make?

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>The greatest playoff stories come from adversity. Right, It's whether

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>whether Jordan could get past the Pistons after years of

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.920
<v Speaker 1>getting knocked out by them. It's whether Lebron can you know,

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 1>switch teams and and go with his super friends to

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 1>another title for right, you know it's.

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 2>But your there's your first point. This isn't the playoffs.

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's my point. It's just not a player. It

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:38.360
<v Speaker 1>needs to change. They need to change their name to

0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>like the regular season coronation or the top the top

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 1>player cash grab.

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>The next cup. That's fine.

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I want him to cut it to fifty guys, you

0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.520
<v Speaker 1>do match play or something. No, just cut it to fifty.

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Everybody in the top fifty has had a great season.

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>They make the playoffs.

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:01.240
<v Speaker 2>What it would be your cuts per event going from

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 2>one to BMW, what would you cut it from fifty to.

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Fifty to thirty six to sixteen and.

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Then sixteen is a matchplay?

0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Maybe sixteen for all that giant pile of cash.

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, you get you keep.

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Your card if you get get the one.

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 2>To start in Atlanta.

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 1>No, everybody starts from scratch, top fifty, everybody from scratch,

0:59:29.560 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and then you have a playoff. Nobody's arguing like number

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 1>fifty has had a great year, you know, nobody's saying,

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:37.960
<v Speaker 1>oh you have. You don't deserve to be.

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Here, right right? Right?

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 1>No. Like I was watching on Thursday or Friday and

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they showed Bo Hostler. I'm like, yeah, didn't know what

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>his status was on to it.

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I thought he had lost status. I don't

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 2>think he's in like any majors, right.

0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't. He's in the playoffs.

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's a good that's that's not a yeah. That's

1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:08.040
<v Speaker 2>a good exhibit against this being Ultimate August or whatever

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:11.640
<v Speaker 2>it is, anything else from the Northern Trust.

1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 1>No, say anymore. I'm done.

1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>We've got two more weeks.

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to be more positive.

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:21.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, we got two more weeks. We've got two

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:22.080
<v Speaker 2>more weeks.

1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 1>They're in my backyard.

1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be a fields. We'll talk about that on Wednesday.

1:00:27.640 --> 1:00:30.440
<v Speaker 2>We got to talk about Daniel Berger. We're at fifty

1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 2>five minutes or something. We can talk about him on Wednesday.

1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not changing. I love it. I'm amused by it.

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:38.240
<v Speaker 2>It makes no sense, but that you know, I kind

1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:41.880
<v Speaker 2>of enjoy it. Other winners this week on the Bye

1:00:41.960 --> 1:00:46.680
<v Speaker 2>dot Com Tour at the Nationwide Children's Hospital Championship. Looks

1:00:46.720 --> 1:00:49.919
<v Speaker 2>like Curtis Luck escapes with the one shot win over

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.919
<v Speaker 2>Theo Humphrey, Taylor Montgomery and Cameron Young.

1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:55.280
<v Speaker 1>That was a great finish.

1:00:55.560 --> 1:01:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Former US Amateur winner, Congrats to Curtis Luck on the

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<v Speaker 2>European Tour on the Manor Swing the coffee pot.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the end of that tournament of the KFT. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Cameron Young is going to be a very

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<v Speaker 1>very great player. Curtis Luck had like one seventy into eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Young had forty five yards. Oh god, it's four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty yard hold.

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<v Speaker 2>Another edition to the Cameron Zone. Excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he gets it would be cool story. They have

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<v Speaker 1>that one thing that's kind of cool. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>actually like a playoff system. Everybody started from zero. The

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<v Speaker 1>top ten or top I think it's top five of

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<v Speaker 1>the the what would have been Web Finals gets the

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<v Speaker 1>US Open Birth and I guess what everybody started from zero,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Great a playoff system, adding steaks, adding some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>steaks right.

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<v Speaker 1>Where everybody starts from zero, right right right?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, last, but not least, the whales open. Sorry, we're

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<v Speaker 2>giving a short shrift. It was just happened earlier this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh we have.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for this pronunciation.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone who I originally Romain legs q. I'm told it's

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<v Speaker 2>lang Esk. We had someone from across the pond just

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<v Speaker 2>submitted pronunciation. Guy that someone who played with Romayne, who

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<v Speaker 2>might not be right. That pronunciation might not be right

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<v Speaker 2>as in juniors. Let me get this up. I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>do that again. Lengus. He's French. His name's Greg war Greg.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sending me the pronunciation. I think he's got to

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<v Speaker 2>have it right if that's he played with them. Roman

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<v Speaker 2>langask amateur went, former British amateur winner, made the cut

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<v Speaker 2>of the Open, made the cut of the Masters. After

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<v Speaker 2>doing that like a young stud, youngish, you know, unsurprising

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<v Speaker 2>to see him win on the European.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he has the patented, you know, seemingly patented

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<v Speaker 1>French personality. I hope he's Yeah, I do the song

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm most interested. I don't know enough I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been. I've followed him since that British sham

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<v Speaker 1>when he played in the Masters and everything. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like fallen to see he got up through

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<v Speaker 1>the Challenge Tour. It hasn't been like a perfect assent,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's still got to be twenty four to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five years old. I haven't looked into exactly his age,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I hope he's just cut from that same

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<v Speaker 1>French golfer cloth that we've got so many greats from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fantastic, it's good. Look. Congrats to him. He beats

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<v Speaker 2>out Sammy Vaalamaki who won the Musk. Out of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I know another young up and comer. Uh last, but

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<v Speaker 2>not least little bit of news. I think that's all

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<v Speaker 2>our results from the weekend. We have Phil playing on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday on the Champions Tour on Top of the Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't he say you never was gonna play?

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable. I don't know. Can I reach you some

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<v Speaker 2>tea times?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you like this is like.

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<v Speaker 1>A preview we were previewing the Champions to her Top

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<v Speaker 1>of the Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say, like, if this wasn't at top

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<v Speaker 2>of the rock where there's Buffalo's room and you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>take a cart to just make your way from to

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<v Speaker 2>get through it standing upright, I'd be into this. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to these groups. VJ Lonner, Darren Clark. Okay, not so

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<v Speaker 2>much that one, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Darren Clark. Who doesn't like watching Darren Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>Much of a player anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>He ripped heaters on the course though he's got He's

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<v Speaker 1>got more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he needs to get on the Monty plane. Then

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<v Speaker 2>here's Phil's parent, goosen Stricker and Phil they were on

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of legitimate venue would be interesting to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Then behind them Ernie d l three and Jerry Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be a horrible Monday watch, right, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>those names are VJ, Phil, Ernie Davis Ratief.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I wonder if they like appearance fees down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Get all the people to Branton. That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Morris bass pro shops. Guy's got some deep pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're onto something here. I think you're onto

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<v Speaker 2>something here. Why Phil's dropped into the Ozarks in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the week and playing champions tour. I don't wanna,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't wanna. I don't want to say anything that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know for sure. But this is a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who cuts his thumb on the scale, puts his thumb

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<v Speaker 2>on the ATM machine and could probably make that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking news. Yeah, Ernie's safe, Yes, yes, fantastic. I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>what happened you finished twenty nine? Oh? DJ has a

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<v Speaker 1>putt two from about five feet to tie beg Vegi's

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<v Speaker 1>uh rain could be over. Oh, no, four footer to

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<v Speaker 1>tie beg to win by ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot find if this Charles Schwabs series at Ozarks National.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot tell if it's on TV. Won't assume given

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<v Speaker 2>the Monday start it will be on TV, but you'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to google that for yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So I won't be watching that even with that star power.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Shane Birch, I think won the first one

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night, just to give him his due. Okay, anything else?

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<v Speaker 2>You good? Any other recaps? Weekend thoughts we get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're waiting for DJ to make this five footer?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'm I'm Harris English might make Bogey though

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<v Speaker 1>he might just give it to him. Oh no, he

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<v Speaker 1>must he made Bogey. He's gonna win by eleven. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, he's gonna smash Beche's he's gonna make Beche's accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, look, I wonder if faris English has some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of Brian Gay and tipathy. Oh he's a he's a

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia boy. He probably hates so it doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. And he's still finished. Second. He had he

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<v Speaker 1>could make Bogue, he'd finish second. I think there's something

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I should look into this. Do you take a dive?

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<v Speaker 1>DJ wins by eleven?

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable, ridiculous, that's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>That's disrespected Brian Gaze when all right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Everyone enjoy your Mondays.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, playoffs continue to roll on despite what.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. There's gonna be the DJ stopper, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Boo stopper, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean probably himself. It's gonna slip and fall on the stairs.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's as likely as anything else. So

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<v Speaker 2>all right, and you're good. Final parting thoughts. I'm good

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<v Speaker 2>to have you back. You may not be. It may

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<v Speaker 2>be jumping in and out, so it's good to have

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<v Speaker 2>you back. Everyone, Enjoy your Mondays and we will be

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<v Speaker 2>back with you Wednesday for more hot playoff action, not

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs