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Speaker 2: This is media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping

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Speaker 2: wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of

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Speaker 2: your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Now your host, Newie Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Yo, it's all your favorite media people here for the

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Speaker 2: media match.

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Speaker 4: We've got real things to talk about.

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Speaker 2: As the Cowboys introduced their assistant coaches to the media yesterday,

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Speaker 2: we do it with Joe Hooyt, All City Dallas, the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. He is ed Warder and there is

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Speaker 2: most trusted player. He's my main doll. Claies Hill, All

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Speaker 2: City Dallas in the house. I merely new Strugs to

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Speaker 2: carry on the conversation.

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Speaker 5: All City DLLs.

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Speaker 3: I say it differently. I noticed when you were I

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Speaker 3: asked how a question and introducing your so the coaches

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Speaker 3: yesterday you say it differently.

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Speaker 6: Well, d LS is a tongue twister. The you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: That is our brand. I know we're trying to get

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Speaker 1: people to know the brand.

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Speaker 6: But it's like inherently Dallas minus.

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Speaker 2: So I still call it Dallas thank you, because that's

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Speaker 2: what I think of with people nationally.

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Speaker 5: No, that's what we think of.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying though, that they're trying to get us

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Speaker 1: to get the brand and people's mindset.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not because.

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Speaker 1: Dallas is your Google. Dallas, you got to Google DLLs.

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Speaker 1: I was DLLs when you Google. Go to the Twitter

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Speaker 1: as our friend. Uh brand again the tika he's to

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Speaker 1: say it is DLLs is not Dallas.

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Speaker 6: But she sells seashells by the Sea.

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Speaker 7: Short.

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Speaker 6: It's too much of a tongue twister. You know people

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Speaker 6: can find it.

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Speaker 4: If they want to exactly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, does Google most trusted?

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Speaker 4: You tell to get that payball down?

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Speaker 5: Try to read your.

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Speaker 3: Story, sir, me too.

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's just the way.

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Speaker 3: Well this looks like nothing topic.

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Speaker 5: Nothing is free.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, ed you and I the same thing.

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Speaker 3: So forty one dollars to read this.

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Speaker 5: I know you get a lot of stuff and that just.

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Speaker 3: You get a free tish and you Joe too, Joe stuff.

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Speaker 4: So go ahead tell us about your story. I could

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Speaker 4: pay for it.

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Speaker 3: He saved us some coins. So no idea, what's your road?

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Speaker 5: I got you?

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Speaker 1: It was here and Joe was here, and basically it

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Speaker 1: was just a rehash of things that we got yesterday

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Speaker 1: talking to the assistant coaches. One thing, he was there,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry, I know he was there merely work.

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Speaker 1: But you know there was a you talked to the

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Speaker 1: coaches and they all talked about Shotty having a clear vision,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the clear vision, clear direction of what

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Speaker 1: they wanted, what he wants, how he wants this organization

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Speaker 1: to look.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it's running the ball obviously on

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Speaker 1: the offense, to be physical and violent on defense, take

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Speaker 1: the ball away. But have you know a family oriented

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Speaker 1: have a connection with the players. It's about the players.

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Speaker 1: Certainly has the schemes, but it's about the players. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking to different coach. Yeah, everybody has these

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Speaker 1: same messages. Uh, But during this time when they're in

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Speaker 1: the whole and then the meeting and rooms are all together,

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Speaker 1: all in the good room, he is continually stressing his

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Speaker 1: messages to us coaches. And you saw yesterday they were

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Speaker 1: parroting everything that they the same things.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's a question with things like this,

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Speaker 8: like how much does coach speak, how much is genuine?

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Speaker 8: But I think at the very least these are things

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Speaker 8: that Brian Schoenheimer is really conveyed to them and made clear.

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Speaker 8: And I think the biggest thing specifically an offense is

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Speaker 8: the physicality that he wants them to have. You saw

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Speaker 8: Clayton Adams, the new offensive coordinator. His smile lit up

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Speaker 8: and then he got real intense when he started talking

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Speaker 8: And I think that that's something that Brian Schoenheimer is

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Speaker 8: really preaching to them. My question though, and we were

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Speaker 8: this is right at the beginning of the evaluation. Is

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Speaker 8: what about the personnel, because you can't be violent without

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Speaker 8: violent people, and especially with the running game. I asked

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Speaker 8: Clayton Adams, Hey, you had James Connor in Arizona, but

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Speaker 8: the physicality that you want to kind of carry out

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Speaker 8: that vision.

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Speaker 6: How do you kind of go about getting that. He's like,

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Speaker 6: it's too early for that, It's too early for that.

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Speaker 8: But I think that's gonna be a big question as

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Speaker 8: we move into the next stage of the offseason. How

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Speaker 8: do you get guys to kind of be representative of

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Speaker 8: the vision that you want Brian Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 4: Did you believe it when he said it is too early?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Okay, neither.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad I didn't pay forty one dollars for that.

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Speaker 3: It's a physical game, Clarence, no doubt. This is a

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Speaker 3: physical game, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Don't whine well during the break, I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: the passwords.

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Speaker 3: To get the free access.

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Speaker 5: What were your takes from yesterday?

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Speaker 3: And not all that different from yours, But I mean

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Speaker 3: who doesn't say all that first time they meet the media.

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Speaker 3: Does anybody ever say we want to be a finesse team,

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Speaker 3: you know, we want to rely on speed and imagination,

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Speaker 3: and we're not really interested in taking the ball away.

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Speaker 3: We'll just get it whenever they give it to us.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, none of that stuff is all

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Speaker 3: that's surprising to hear, but it is consistent with this

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Speaker 3: thought that they do want to be do want to

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Speaker 3: create an identity where they run the football on offense,

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Speaker 3: and that I mean that takes back to the Jason

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Speaker 3: Garrett era, right, I mean, that's what he emphasized and

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Speaker 3: that's what's worked for this organization through time is running

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Speaker 3: the football, play action, passing, and playing defense. And if

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Speaker 3: they can do those things, then they're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: You know, one thing that struck me certainly, you just

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Speaker 1: talking to the defensive coordinator and all the defense coaches.

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Speaker 5: It's one thing to say, we're going to allow Michael.

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Speaker 1: Parson duty does best and get to the quarterback. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: he's in his third defensive coordinator in the last four years,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's you know, making them comfortable allow

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Speaker 1: him to continue to rush the pass. Because Influence is

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Speaker 1: not a guy who moves people around like Dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: But he said, you know, Michael's primary position will be

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Speaker 1: rushing the quarterback and it's not being the linebackers getting

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Speaker 1: bothtly echoed the same thing. But the thing that struck me,

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Speaker 1: and maybe because they have no difference tackles on the roster,

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Speaker 1: but they were very high on the impact that they

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Speaker 1: can make with one. Mizi Smith, who's largely been a

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Speaker 1: disappointment his first two years in league, stain he was

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Speaker 1: disappointed a rookie, uh playing and dan Quinn's scheme, he

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Speaker 1: had to get up the field, and you.

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Speaker 3: Don't make it any easier on him changing the defensive

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: No, last year he was supposed to be more comfortable

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Speaker 1: than Mike Zimmer's scheme and he was on the field

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Speaker 1: because the ain't nobody else to play. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he was a difference maker. But these two

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Speaker 1: talked about his athleticism and uh being you know, thinking

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Speaker 1: he can get to the quarterback because they're going to be

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Speaker 1: more like dan Quinn. This defense is an attack defense.

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Speaker 1: They're going out to the quarterback. They stopping running away

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Speaker 1: back for the quarterbacks. And more than Marinelli's stuff is

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Speaker 1: not reading and react stuff that they did on the Zimber,

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Speaker 1: which they said last year was what Mozi did best.

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Speaker 1: It's it's about attacking the quarterback. Here's a guy who's

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Speaker 1: been criticized for not getting off the ball, slow off

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Speaker 1: the ball, not better get in the backfield. That's what

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Speaker 1: I gonna be asking him to do and so sometimes

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Speaker 1: you you know, as we talked about on our show

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Speaker 1: this morning, they are supposed to be optimistic. But we

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Speaker 1: can't let him lie to us, right, We can't let

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Speaker 1: him think that Monsie's gonna suddenly be Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I this is just me.

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Speaker 2: I took that as this is what you're supposed to say.

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Speaker 2: You're getting here. A part of you getting the job

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Speaker 2: is telling.

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Speaker 3: What they want to hear. That was a great pick,

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Speaker 3: and I first, we'll make something out of this guy.

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Speaker 3: Nobody else came li it is you can lie about

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Speaker 3: it and then blame him for failing.

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Speaker 4: I see what's there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's the music producer who comes in

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Speaker 2: here says yeah, I think I can work with it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and at some point in time, maybe they

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Speaker 2: are Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis when they said we

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Speaker 2: think we can do something with this janned Jackson who

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Speaker 2: never really had a hit, and they made the out

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Speaker 2: of control she became a star or it's just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you can't say.

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Speaker 5: But first of all, but she was a Jackson.

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Speaker 1: First of all, so was okay, so was there.

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Speaker 5: Was a new people.

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Speaker 1: She was a star. She was a start from a child.

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Speaker 1: Don't be doing it like that. Don't don't don't do now.

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Speaker 5: You do not do nasty girl like that like she

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Speaker 5: was something guy she was not. She was not Jamaze,

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Speaker 5: she was not LaToya. She was She had started, but

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Speaker 5: she had star powers.

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Speaker 3: I did not see this coming.

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Speaker 5: She had start power.

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Speaker 1: She had start power from the beginning, back when she

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Speaker 1: was a baby.

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Speaker 5: On good Time. She exuded star power.

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Speaker 2: She was singing on good she had exhort what she

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Speaker 2: was on different strew.

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Speaker 5: She had star power.

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Speaker 2: She had fired the daddy. She still and she was

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Speaker 2: trying to find something in Jimmy James.

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Speaker 5: Trying to find Bobby Brown. You don't she had start power.

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Speaker 5: Your history is terrible anyway. You just know I'm not

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Speaker 5: she had star powers Janet Jackson.

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Speaker 9: But back to the Cowboy was starting, no no cook

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Speaker 9: one other one other thing that uh. And we're talking

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Speaker 9: about them saying the right things or saying things. They

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Speaker 9: kept talking about how great their cornerbacks were, how great

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Speaker 9: their cornerbacks.

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Speaker 5: We got two of the best cornerbacks.

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Speaker 3: Two of the five best man two and I don't know.

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Speaker 5: If one of them gonna be ready to start the season.

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Speaker 4: Who's available or play it all.

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Speaker 5: Play it all. I'm like, come on now, got me.

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Speaker 3: May have a contract decision to make on him, right,

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Speaker 3: Not well, he never mentioned Jordan Lewis at all.

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Speaker 1: No, he's maybe that they have no contract decision to

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Speaker 1: make on him because he's injury guaranteed with this year.

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Speaker 4: Some people can't do. He couldn't do it, but back

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Speaker 3: He's a qualified defensive coordinator, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Now. Now, they didn't none of the coaches talked in

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Speaker 1: And I will ask you, guys, and I'm like Odiggy

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, But if you let him go,

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Speaker 5: To keep him. I agree.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying though he could be getting twenty four

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Speaker 3: Well, if you lose him and then you have to

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Speaker 8: But here's the only thing with the pots of Line

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Speaker 8: But they need a lot of guys, and I know

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Speaker 8: this draft is deep at defensive line. So your point,

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Speaker 8: you're gonna be doing an exercise and trying to find oh,

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Speaker 8: Dicky's SEO once again. But you might have to have

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Speaker 3: Me already say you don't trust Bozzie Smith, now the

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Speaker 5: Even if you pay, you're gonna draft him back.

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Speaker 1: You still, this draft is deep in defensive tackle, you know,

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Speaker 1: than what about Williams from Philadelphia. You know, he considered

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He may be the number one defense tackle on the board.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna pay, oh so why not pay him.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna get him.

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Speaker 5: He's from Fort Worth, there's a chance. But I mean

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna pay that type of money, first,

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Speaker 1: of all, why.

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Speaker 3: Get to this point.

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Speaker 6: That's that's the real problem.

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Speaker 5: That's yeah, but we can't go back.

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Speaker 3: And you know, well you gotta change at some point,

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Speaker 3: so change it now.

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Speaker 5: Well you can't.

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Speaker 3: You already should have done Micah, you should have already

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Speaker 5: But you can't go back. Diggis is contraxxlf.

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Speaker 1: You can't go back and pay him before it is

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Speaker 5: Debraid is gonna be what the rate is.

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Speaker 1: So if you're gonna pay that rate, why not pay

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Speaker 1: the rate for Milton Williams rather than pay that rate

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Speaker 1: for Diggie Zewa is what I'm asking. If you're gonna

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Speaker 8: Firston, I use that money to bring back Chauncey Golson

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Speaker 5: Said, Chauncey's the defensive end. He's not a tackle.

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Speaker 8: No no, no, no, no. But what I'm saying, no,

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Speaker 8: but look at your whole defense. No, you got you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm just what you Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Marcus Lawrence is gone. You're bringing back Mazzie Smith

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Speaker 2: The defensive tackle spot, to me is still the that's

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Speaker 3: And every good team beat you the same way.

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Speaker 2: And my problem for Mike Zimmer when he got here

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Speaker 2: of Famer.

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Speaker 4: Joe Hoyt of All City Dallas.

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Speaker 2: He's the youngster of the group and I'm merely he

447
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Speaker 2: strugged to carry out the conversation here, okay, sir well.

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Speaker 1: The NFL basically informed teams today that the salary cap

449
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Speaker 1: would jump to somewhere between two hundred and seventy seven

450
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Speaker 1: and two hundred and eighty one million dollars. That is

451
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Speaker 1: way up from last year's cap of two fifty five

452
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Speaker 1: point four.

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Speaker 5: Last two years of cap has increased over fifty three

454
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Speaker 5: million dollars. Uh.

455
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Speaker 1: So the Cowboys have making a complaint of talking about

456
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Speaker 1: having cap issues because I tied the cap is going

457
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Speaker 1: to be Uh.

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Speaker 5: No one expected to jump this much this year.

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Speaker 1: So that shit helped the Cowboys saw some of their

460
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Speaker 1: cap woes. You know, certainly they're not the team with

461
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Speaker 1: the most cap on. But she kept himself some of

462
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Speaker 1: the cap bolls so they can be players active in

463
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Speaker 1: free to see if they want to be, if they.

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Speaker 5: Want to be, and it's up to them. Uh.

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Speaker 1: One person who took very much note of this one

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 5: He tweeted LFG.

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Speaker 1: So that's either LFG paid me or LFG you got

469
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Speaker 1: money to pay some other guys in addition to paying me.

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Speaker 5: But LFG none the same good friends.

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Speaker 3: It's a call to action. According to Micah Let's freak.

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Speaker 4: Let's freaking GOLFGFJ.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, so, I mean Jerry's been talking going

474
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Speaker 1: back to camp. He talked about, you remember when the

475
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Speaker 1: pandemic we had to have less money. He just talked

476
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Speaker 1: about being you know, this doom day scenario out there

477
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Speaker 1: and everybody thought it was gonna be the ticket lawsuit

478
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Speaker 1: from the Sunday ticket lawsuit or something.

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Speaker 5: That was gonna bring the cap down. He's I can't.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be careful because you know, I know the forecast,

481
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Speaker 1: I know the future forecast, but anybody I know what

482
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Speaker 1: the economics of the league is going to be.

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Speaker 5: And Scott, the sky is not the sky is not falling. Okay?

484
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Speaker 3: Why I think it's interesting that Micah Parsons, who is

485
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Speaker 3: gonna get the biggest contract this offseason of anybody with

486
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Speaker 3: this franchise, and maybe the biggest in the league this offseason,

487
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Speaker 3: certainly in position for it, and there have been no talk.

488
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Speaker 5: And Mark Chaon wants forty million dollars.

489
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Speaker 3: You think he's gonna get more than Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

491
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Speaker 3: The Bengals.

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Speaker 8: From the Bengals, who have they couple other guys they

493
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Speaker 8: have to sign.

494
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Speaker 3: From the Bengals they could have signed. You think Mike

495
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Speaker 3: Brown's gonna spend Jerry.

496
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Speaker 1: They could have signed up a thirty five. Last year

497
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Speaker 1: they didn't sign him. He went off and they had

498
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Speaker 1: one of the best seasons ever before receiver.

499
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Speaker 3: But it's interesting that his whole thing that going into

500
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Speaker 3: this offseason is, you know, I don't have to be

501
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Speaker 3: the highest paid non quarterback in football. There when he

502
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Speaker 3: said I have to be, And he has said he

503
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Speaker 3: wants his contract to be done early so can benefit

504
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Speaker 3: the team in free agency. And now they've got an

505
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Speaker 3: extra twenty two to twenty six million dollars that they

506
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Speaker 3: didn't expect to have, And here we are talking about

507
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Speaker 3: how they're gonna let all these guys go. What's his

508
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Speaker 3: reaction going to be to that? How is that going

509
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Speaker 3: to change his willingness to sign here for a reasonable

510
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Speaker 3: sum of money.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna sign.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, I've always gotta play here.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna sign.

514
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Speaker 5: When he signed them to the Ridge's contract.

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Speaker 1: Whin Yeah, it win is an issue, but he's he's

516
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Speaker 1: gonna be willing to you say, a willingness. So I'm

517
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Speaker 1: dealing with the willingness he's gonna be willing to sign.

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Speaker 8: Here's the interesting thing too, though, And you pointed this

519
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Speaker 8: outthead and yeah, they got twenty five million dollars to

520
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Speaker 8: play with now, but so does every other NFL team

521
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Speaker 8: out there.

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Speaker 6: And I think that this also is kind of not

523
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Speaker 6: only a call.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a call not only to for the every

525
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Speaker 8: the Cowboys do action, but everyone else, like the Philadelphia

526
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Speaker 8: Eagles have shown to be very very aggressive with a

527
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Speaker 8: little bit of aound the cap space. How do you

528
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Speaker 8: think they're feeling over there right now when they see

529
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Speaker 8: how we got twenty five million dollars more to play

530
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Speaker 8: with than to push things back? The Micah Parsons call

531
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Speaker 8: to action is really more relevant now than ever because hey,

532
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Speaker 8: you got to do You have room now to do things.

533
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Speaker 8: Everyone else is going to do something. Why don't you

534
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Speaker 8: do it too?

535
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Speaker 3: And you have motivation. You're the third best team in

536
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Speaker 3: your division.

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Speaker 6: Right Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you know what's the happiest the players because this

539
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Speaker 1: means more money. He's gonna be more money out there

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Speaker 1: for freatenency. All those contracts are going up, so you

541
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Speaker 1: know Osa is gonna get his twenty million, you know,

542
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Speaker 1: no doubt or whatever else they're gonna do. It's nobody's

543
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Speaker 1: come in on cheap deals because people got money to spend.

544
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Speaker 1: They have to spend the money. Uh, they don't necessarily

545
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Speaker 1: have extra twenty million. It just projected more than what

546
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Speaker 1: it was, so it's probably gonna go up ten million,

547
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Speaker 1: you know as.

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Speaker 6: Well at the seventy seven days now under the cow.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, not susaridly got an extra twenty million,

550
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Speaker 1: but yes, it's probably an extra test.

551
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Speaker 5: Million that they didn't project.

552
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Speaker 3: So, but the relevant numbers are that the Cowboys have

553
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Speaker 3: not participated in a significant extent in free agency. And

554
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Speaker 3: when they had the Brian Schottenheimer introductory press conference and

555
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Speaker 3: Steven was asked about following the Eagles model, he was

556
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Speaker 3: still very noncommittal about it, like and Jerry didn't say, hey,

557
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Speaker 3: we are we we we've realized that we've got to

558
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Speaker 3: use this aspect to improve our roster like it like

559
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Speaker 3: so many other teams do, especially teams like the Eagles

560
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Speaker 3: in our division and Washington at our expense. And there

561
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Speaker 3: was no commitment that they were going to do this.

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Speaker 3: And if you look at the numbers, they spent the

563
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Speaker 3: fewest amount of free agency dollars last year, eighteen point

564
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Speaker 3: eighty five eleven one year contracts, that's what they and

565
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Speaker 3: they were the last team to sign a player, and

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Speaker 3: they've been the last team to sign an unrestricted free

567
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Speaker 3: agent three of the last four years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and here are the here's the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Lourie is selling, you know, eight percent of his franchise,

570
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Speaker 3: so he has more capital to invest in improving his

571
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Speaker 3: roster the Giants are now doing. Then, is Jerry ever

572
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Speaker 3: going to sell a fraction of a franchise? No, No,

573
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Speaker 3: he doesn't want anybody else be called an owner.

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Speaker 5: No battle Boys.

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Speaker 4: When we said yeah, buy out all those people to

576
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Speaker 4: make sure came in.

577
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Speaker 5: And we said nobody else. We mean nobody else.

578
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Speaker 3: We need Charlotte Steven But what wasn't Steve introduced as

579
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Speaker 3: a co owner?

580
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so I'm an alcohol owner.

581
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Speaker 1: Jerry ownes fifty one percent or something like that, and

582
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Speaker 1: and the kids on the wrist.

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Speaker 3: But the Cowboys have ranked twenty seventh in free age

584
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Speaker 3: and spending since twenty seventeen. They haven't been in the

585
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Speaker 3: top twenty since they were nineteenth and Dak's rookie year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what kills me about. And that was

587
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Speaker 1: Dak's rookie year. But we'll by his second year. They

588
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Speaker 1: didn't spend a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Well, last year they were thirty second in twenty twenty three.

590
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Speaker 3: That were twenty eighth year before they their twenty fifth

591
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Speaker 3: year before that they're twenty sixth. Year before that, they're

592
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Speaker 3: twenty first. Year before that, that were thirtieth year before that,

593
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Speaker 3: they were twenty ninth, twenty seventeen, they were twenty third, right,

594
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Speaker 3: you know.

595
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Speaker 1: So that's what kills me when people talk about Dak's

596
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Speaker 1: money and how Dak's money limits the Cowboys from signing anyone.

597
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Speaker 1: They won't sign anybody anyway. When they had Dak on

598
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Speaker 1: a rookie deal, they didn't sign anybody. They were not

599
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Speaker 1: players of radiency. So it's not like if that doesn't

600
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Speaker 1: get sixty million, they're gonna use that money and something

601
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Speaker 1: they haven't done that that was shown they're gonna do that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not about only spending, it's about how creative

603
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Speaker 8: you spend, and they've proven a lack of creativity in

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Speaker 8: this regard.

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Speaker 6: The one thing Jerry did say, we gotta get better

606
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Speaker 6: with the cal.

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Speaker 8: But until you see them actually do it and manipulate that,

608
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Speaker 8: then there's no reason to trust that they would increase.

609
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Speaker 6: That free agency.

610
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Speaker 5: They know how to manipulate the cap.

611
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Speaker 6: They might know, but they haven't shown it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have no willingness to do exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, none of this is rockets so what the

614
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Speaker 1: Eagles are doing anybody else is doing is not rocket science.

615
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Speaker 2: So will the fact that the Eagles have now won

616
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Speaker 2: a second Super Bowl with their second head coach.

617
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Speaker 4: Will that be the impetus?

618
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Speaker 2: And having Brian Schottenhimer here knowing right now the fan

619
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Speaker 2: base was underwhelmed by the hire, would that?

620
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Speaker 3: Were you going to support this guy or not? Well,

621
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Speaker 3: like you hired him, you promoted him. Nobody else did

622
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Speaker 3: that in this hiring cycle. Nobody else promoted their head

623
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Speaker 3: their coordinator to a head coach, a non play calling coordinator.

624
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Speaker 3: So he's got two jobs you didn't have last year.

625
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Speaker 3: Are you going to support this guy or not?

626
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Speaker 6: And he can't succeed you without that support.

627
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Speaker 2: And that's why I wonder about just the free agency aspect.

628
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Speaker 2: And was it training camp when Steven said, hey, all

629
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Speaker 2: the tickets.

630
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Speaker 3: Are sold, the highest renewal rate in the right Yeah.

631
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah that happened last year.

632
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Speaker 1: He started that and the owners meeting in March, but yes,

633
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Speaker 1: he talked about the renewal rate and everybody re upping.

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Speaker 5: What will they re up this year?

635
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Speaker 3: You think we'll start to get some sense of this

636
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Speaker 3: next week when they're at the combine, and yeah, I

637
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: think you'll start getting made. The Hawks are had.

638
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Speaker 1: And unofficial raidings to begin to the combine, and so

639
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: they're you know, obviously you got agents there with their clients,

640
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Speaker 1: agents who have also free agents, and they have conversations

641
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Speaker 1: and to think about the Cowboys, they can talk about

642
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Speaker 1: their own guys. The thing about the Cowboys is they

643
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: have so many of their own freightings. They have to

644
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: sign guys just to fill out a roster. Okay, they

645
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Speaker 1: have and that's not including going and improving the roster

646
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Speaker 1: by signing guys who weren't here. They got to start

647
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Speaker 1: filling out holes just to fill their football team. We

648
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Speaker 1: talked about they have one really defensive tackle on the

649
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Speaker 1: roster that's signed on the roster. Actually, if you conclude

650
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Speaker 1: Justin Rodgers as too, and maybe some of the guys

651
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Speaker 1: you got on the practice, but I mean Mazie and

652
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Speaker 1: Justin Rodgers is really all you got a defensive tackle.

653
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Speaker 5: You got to sign bodies.

654
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Speaker 6: Look at their running back room.

655
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Speaker 5: Yeah, same thing with a running back room, the linebacker room.

656
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Speaker 6: Quarterback.

657
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have one quarterback on the roster, you know,

658
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: and so they got to sign bodies, so they they

659
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: will add people. Adding people is not the same as

660
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Speaker 1: being all in. Though they have to add people because

661
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Speaker 1: they have to fill out the roster. Is a difference

662
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Speaker 1: them going all in and adding difference making players to

663
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Speaker 1: improve the talent, they've got.

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Speaker 4: To addressed the defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I mean that just that, that has

666
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Speaker 2: to be job number one. You are in a division

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Speaker 2: where you got the world champions and.

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Speaker 3: The other team that went to the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 3: a team on the rise with a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 2: A rookie quarterback who can run, and they're going to

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Speaker 2: add to their running game. I thought Eckler didn't have

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Speaker 2: his best year, but he's still a very good player.

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Speaker 2: And Eckland Robinson, they've got a running attack. So to me,

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Speaker 2: it has to start there. You did, you know so,

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Speaker 2: so while they put resources, I mean shot, he wants

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Speaker 2: to run it, you better stop it too.

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Speaker 5: It has to be.

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Speaker 4: It has to go both ways.

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Speaker 1: Run it, stop it because it we gonna stop running.

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Speaker 1: How do you gonna stop run? They been saying, never

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Speaker 1: last for you. They got to stop shop the run.

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Speaker 3: You need defensive tackles and mine backers that they don't have,

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Speaker 3: and to run the football. You need a dynamic player

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Speaker 3: at running back that they don't have. So where are

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Speaker 3: these guys coming from.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that, Yeah, I asked Clayton Adams about his

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Speaker 1: rushing offense and how the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Kicked in Kyler Murray real quick on if I saw that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, is just something that I was happy about that

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Speaker 3: because I was going to ask that the success.

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Speaker 1: Of the offense is the quarterback run from You don't

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Speaker 1: have that in doubts, you know, And he did not

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Speaker 1: back down from the.

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Speaker 5: Fact that he likes the quarterback when they able to run.

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Speaker 3: In certain situations, but a goal line places where you

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Speaker 3: really got to have it.

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Speaker 5: That's when that he didn't back down from that though.

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Speaker 5: So I need that PILATEI you get the rehab I need.

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Speaker 5: I needed to stretch that leg out.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's when you put Trey Lanser cl Clayton play.

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Speaker 12: Is the.

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Speaker 4: Clayton called the place.

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Speaker 5: I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I understand that that's part what you brought it here

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Speaker 1: for what he brings to the running game, and the

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Speaker 1: QB run is part of that. And then that's the

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Speaker 1: thing about that that frustrates me about the whole thing

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Speaker 1: with Dak is that that's who you were, That's that's

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Speaker 1: what made you great in college, that's what made you

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Speaker 1: specially early to see early in your career. The idea

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Speaker 1: that they just completely went away from that when the

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Speaker 1: league was coming towards that. You have to Lamark Jackson's

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Speaker 1: coming league, Nigga's going toward the QB run and you

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Speaker 1: went away from that.

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Speaker 6: It's been some time.

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Speaker 1: Is that more trying to make Dak tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: that was saying it was that more McCarthy or a

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Speaker 1: consciousness by Dak.

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Speaker 3: Or was it the investment the franchise meeting.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's just like it's just like going back then.

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Speaker 1: We're old enough to remember in Philly when they discouraged

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Speaker 1: dom mic Now from running and tried to make him

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Speaker 1: a pocket pass and when running is what part of

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Speaker 1: made him great.

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Speaker 3: Although some people say he wanted to be proving to

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Speaker 3: be a pocket.

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Speaker 5: Right because that was the mindset.

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Speaker 1: If you're not a real quarterback less you're parcketing path,

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Speaker 1: you have long jevity, you have no longevity in this league.

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Speaker 1: If you're not in a pocket pass, we don't do

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Speaker 1: the tom Brady and Peyton Manning model. Rather than carveon

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Speaker 1: Niche and I think that's the same thing with that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think some of it was the coach and some

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Speaker 1: of them jaredsonly after got injured, but part of it

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Speaker 1: was Deck.

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Speaker 5: That was his whole mindset being preached about, you know,

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Speaker 5: you need.

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Speaker 1: To be able to stay in the pocket for longevity

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Speaker 1: and build, you know, rather than just do.

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Speaker 5: What you do.

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Speaker 3: But Clarence insulted him into being a running quarterback again,

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Speaker 3: and look at how that turned out.

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Speaker 8: Well, he was actually running well in that game too,

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Speaker 8: which is the crazy part about it. And then obviously

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Speaker 8: if you haven't right, he had their longest run of

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Speaker 8: the season.

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Speaker 5: He should just stop ten yards earliest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's meat off the bone.

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Speaker 5: He left the meat on the bone.

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Speaker 6: He was off the bone, off the bone.

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Speaker 3: But even Schottenheimer's offenses and when he was calling plays

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Speaker 3: in Seattle involved a running quarterback and Sir Wilson, who

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Speaker 3: was at the height of his powers at the time,

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Speaker 3: and you know he was reluctant to let the ball

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Speaker 3: out of his hands and clutch situations like he ran.

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Speaker 5: That's what he did, right, he was and he was decisive.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing. You got it when you do what

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Speaker 5: you got be decisive.

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Speaker 1: One thing that you look at what Jalen hurts and

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Speaker 1: those guys, even Patrick Mahomes when he decides to get

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Speaker 1: really decisive with it, because you.

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Speaker 5: Don't you don't have to be fast.

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Speaker 1: But if you're not gonna be fast, be decisive, so

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Speaker 1: you get because that is not very fast, but neither

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Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahons.

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Speaker 3: I think the one of the commonalities all four of

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Speaker 3: the teams that got to the AFCN NFC Championship games

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Speaker 3: had were quarterbacks who ran for at least three hundred yards,

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Speaker 3: and obviously Daniels ran for way more than that. He

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Speaker 3: led He led Washington and rushing and passing, and that's

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Speaker 3: not uncommon for Josh Allen to do. But I think

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Speaker 3: those that's not gonna happen here anymore.

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Speaker 2: Which is placing more importance on finding a real running game,

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Speaker 2: real running game. And so the draft, draft and free agency.

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Speaker 2: They've got to look at defensive tackle, you gotta look

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Speaker 2: at the run back, running back. You gotta control the

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Speaker 2: lines if you're going to win this division. I mean,

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Speaker 2: clearly the blueprint is out here. You've got to control

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Speaker 2: the lines. And something they have not done. They tried

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Speaker 2: to walk work around and tap dance around.

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Speaker 5: They fail.

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Speaker 2: Last year was miserably failing. And then you start to

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Speaker 2: look at this year's schedule. I mean, you got to

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Speaker 2: go to the AFC West face them. You gotta go

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Speaker 2: to the NFC North and face them along with Philly twice,

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Speaker 2: Washington twice. You've got to fix the defensive tackle, defensive line, offensive.

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Speaker 4: Cold outside, it is cold, cold, cold, cold. But Clarence

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Speaker 4: he wants the show done.

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Speaker 3: Joe Hoyt got the call as long as we don't

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Speaker 4: The batsit signal it came in here. I came in

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Speaker 5: There's no weather event, there's nothing on the roads. It's

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Speaker 13: I know.

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Speaker 3: I was just there and I took my big park

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Speaker 3: my big north face parker there, thinking I need it

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Speaker 3: there more than I would hear. We all got two

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Speaker 3: days be done next week, like include, I'm leaving it there.

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Speaker 3: It's all good and still needed more there.

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Speaker 4: Class called for Chris Beam, and I just said, yeah.

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Speaker 3: We'll make it happen. We'll plug in the stuff.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I'll come up with the topics.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Well you wanted to use all that knowledge he gained

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Speaker 3: yesterday talking to the assistant coaches. So it is timely,

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Speaker 3: very much so.

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Speaker 4: Teching and producer.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, and such a.

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Speaker 4: Hater and paid as such in the background.

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Speaker 2: Franchise tag, Yes, anybody worthy of it, especially now that

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Speaker 2: we see the salary cap in here going to be

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Speaker 2: uh moving up here to to to seventy seven.

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Speaker 1: It was just like our conversation earlier, you know, and

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Speaker 1: look we all like, O DIGGI zoo. Is he worth

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year? And that's what the franchise

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Speaker 1: tag is for a defensive tackle, you know.

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Speaker 6: No, I seemed to even more than that for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty four y yeah, over twenty million dollars. I

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Speaker 5: mean that is that.

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Speaker 6: He's going to get that, he may get that, he

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Speaker 6: will get on the market.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna what I'm saying, even before the cap

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Speaker 1: thing came out, if you're gonna franchise.

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Speaker 3: Dan Quint's already pacing outside his residence right now.

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Speaker 5: Well, either I heard they're trading for the guy from Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know milescare Yeah, we'll have them both.

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Speaker 1: Ye And they got as much as cap room as

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Speaker 1: anybody watching it has a lot of cap room to

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Speaker 1: play with. So, but if you're gonna franchise, you might

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Speaker 1: want sign to a deal because you franchise, you have

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Speaker 1: to carry that whole weight on your on your on

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Speaker 1: your sory cap. So it doesn't help you, you know,

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Speaker 1: try to sign on the guys and you don't really

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Speaker 1: want a twenty four million dollar a hit if you're gonna,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna consider franchise, if that's gonna be the case,

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Speaker 1: then sign them to a deal so you can less

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Speaker 1: than his cap figure. But that's a lot of money

888
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: outside of him. There's really nobody you're worthy of franchise.

889
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, because if you sign him, you can manipulate it

890
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 8: long term rather than just taking that twenty four million dollars.

891
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 8: Coavin and then Stills allow you to go get more

892
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 8: defensive lineman. Because that's the problem I keep coming back

893
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 8: to is they need bodies, they need dudes. They need

894
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 8: a lot of help there. And if you ask three

895
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 8: rookies to do it on the draft from the draft,

896
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 8: I don't know if they can step up immediately carry

897
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 8: that kind of way.

898
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough for defensive line. But you look at

899
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles and we love what they've done with the

900
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: Georgia guys. But Jalen Carter wasn't Jaalen Carter as a rookie.

901
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Nola Smith wasn't Nola Smith as a rookie. Davis wasn't

902
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: Davis as a rookie. You know, you know, they they've

903
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: molded and come into those.

904
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 5: Guys, you know. So it's hard for those guys at

905
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 5: that position.

906
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: And I'm not making exclusive for Mizie, but for their

907
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: really to have impact as rookies.

908
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 5: But he's not a rookie, I'm not.

909
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: So the Cowboys tried just the opposite strategy of last

910
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: year from that, right, They waited until training camp was

911
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: almost over and brought in guys who had played twelve

912
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: or fifteen years, so we're retired.

913
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, called on the cow So who was on the

914
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 5: cow That's that is not the move at all.

915
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, no franchise tag day, transient transition day, it start,

916
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: could start it yesterday.

917
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: I don't see the cowboy.

918
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't use it, but I would be threatening, ohso

919
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: with it right now, trying to get him to sign

920
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: a multi year deal, Like, if you don't sign a

921
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: multi year deal, you're not going to free agency. We're

922
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna franchise that.

923
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 5: He'll say, good, I'll take twenty four million this year.

924
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: You don't have to be telling him the truth.

925
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 5: I'll take twenty four million this year. Oh give me

926
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: twenty four Yeah.

927
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: But would you rather fully get out of eighty.

928
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Eighty is coming next year because you ain't gonna do

929
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: it back to back by wait, you ain't gonna do

930
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: it back to back years. I'll be back in the

931
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: market making that capital. The cap might go up another

932
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: twenty million, I'll be packing. I'm gonna take that, you know,

933
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: just like there running back Tony politic that I'm planning

934
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: the franchise tag for a year next.

935
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: One thing that you're not going to do it back

936
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 5: to back years. Yeah.

937
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 8: One thing they can't threaten them, in my opinion, is

938
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 8: the transition tag. I think that's been kind of a conversation.

939
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 8: If you're threatening an eighteen million dollars one year while

940
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 8: you can still negotiate with others. That's going to do

941
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 8: absolutely nothing, because you were going to significantly exceed on

942
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 8: the open market eighteen million.

943
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: Except they would get a pick back.

944
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 8: If you know that's the thing. You get no compensation

945
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 8: for transition. Take there's transition just right at first refusal exactly, yeah,

946
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 8: and yeah, I don't that would make no sense.

947
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: I did not talk to the special teams coordinator yesterday

948
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 4: at all.

949
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: You need for the former forty nine of defense coordinator

950
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: Nick Sortinson got the big flat hat, flat hat, big

951
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: flat hat. He said all the right things, but what

952
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: he say was he works for Shottenheimer. Shottenhammer don't work

953
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: for him. He does not make decisions when fake goal,

954
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: when the fake punt, when he lost players can't acting,

955
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: wasn't If there's any it's going to be shouting from

956
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: the head coach, it won't be coming from him.

957
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 5: I asked, how's your fake put?

958
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 6: When I heard I heard a little chuckle.

959
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 4: That is such dirty work.

960
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 8: I heard a chuckle behind me before he even asked it.

961
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 8: I heard it like I'm in the engine, you're getting

962
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 8: ready to go, and says you weren't here.

963
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: But there was a lot of ACTI base way ahead, coach.

964
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: There's way how much activating coach like boo.

965
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Boo wow, fake punts at the thirty were going, Now

966
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: do you do that in your boy, that's some dirty work.

967
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: I'm just saying.

968
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: But you.

969
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: Got to have especially coach on the least. Okay, you

970
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: just can't.

971
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: That head coach is not here anymore.

972
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 5: Run his own program.

973
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: I'm sure, right, Shottenheimer's learn from them.

974
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 5: It's got run out of sair on l A.

975
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: Right.

976
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: Like I said, this is Brian shotting Man. I don't

977
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: really remember things, Ed. Can you recall any activations under

978
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: Marty Schottheimer.

979
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: I think I think the Shottenheimer is kind of had

980
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 3: a conservative conservatives.

981
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: Pretty good from during the years. So, I mean, the

982
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: special teams could look different. They've got some good players

983
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: here that they need to re sign out.

984
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you made the point about they need to

985
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: resign their punter and who's also the older and the

986
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: long snapper.

987
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, they got a great battery that's been a Pro

988
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 8: Bowl battery. But two of those three guys are missing.

989
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 8: He did say that, hey, you know, we're gonna want

990
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 8: to get them back. And you know, I've heard nothing

991
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 8: but great things and so I mean, we'll see what

992
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 8: else is he supposed to say about this.

993
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 5: We're not going to belabor the long snapper. Okay, they

994
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: will find it long snap.

995
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 6: Did they have any issues at long snapping?

996
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 5: They will, they will find it long snap.

997
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 8: There are two tiers. There are two tiers of long snappers,

998
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 8: those who mess up and those don't.

999
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: And the Cowboys journally have founded a long snapper.

1000
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were going back to the illustrat that you

1001
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: have a pretty good a long snapper LPE probably l LP.

1002
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 5: Ready to come back.

1003
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 6: Hey, there are bad long snappers out there.

1004
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Cowboys have generally never had one.

1005
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 6: Trent wasn't one of them.

1006
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: So they'll they'll get a long snapper, and I think

1007
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: they'll you know, they'll be okay at punter.

1008
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: So we can't afford our long snapper or punter. We're

1009
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: gonna draft.

1010
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 9: Well, what if we franchise bring up the USFL or

1011
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 9: UFL The punt return is also a free agent.

1012
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 8: He is a well restricted. Yeah, but what if your

1013
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 8: franchise tag the long snapper. I mean, you take the

1014
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 8: three highest long snappers salaries. I think that actually could

1015
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 8: be a deal.

1016
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm in on this long snapper is happy to be

1017
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: on the team, Sir, he was franchise told me the contract.

1018
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: My family have been a couple of years. What do

1019
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 5: you want me to sign?

1020
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 6: What about the punter?

1021
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 5: Though, punter probably gonna be the same way.

1022
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so you're not scared if Fossil decides to

1023
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: take them down to Tennessee.

1024
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Within I mean, who the longer, He's not scared of it,

1025
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: as long as they don't take the kick returner and

1026
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: the kicker.

1027
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: Fossil loves Anger's arms.

1028
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 5: Activation long they don't take the kicker and the kick returner.

1029
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: Just asking, just asking. Any other nuggets from the assistant

1030
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: coach media gathering.

1031
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1032
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 8: One guy I talked with a lot was David over Street,

1033
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 8: the new Corners coach. And I think that when people

1034
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 8: look at last year's staff to this year, one big

1035
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 8: loss that they talk about is Al Harris, right, and

1036
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 8: how are we going to replace Al Harris? David Overstreet

1037
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 8: said a lot of things. I think he had the

1038
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 8: best quot of the day when he said that, Hey,

1039
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 8: you know, when the ball's in the air, I tell

1040
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 8: my guys that ball is yours. That with the quarterback

1041
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 8: through it. That means he doesn't want it anymore. And

1042
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 8: if he's throwing it at targeting you, that means he

1043
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 8: thinks that your guy is better than him, So go

1044
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 8: out and take offense to that. And I kind of

1045
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 8: like that energy. I think that that's going to be

1046
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 8: one thing to kind of follow is how does David

1047
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 8: Overstreet's unit compared to what Al Harris's unit did, because

1048
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 8: I think.

1049
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 6: A lot of people look at that as a huge loss.

1050
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: I thought the other interesting thing was both on the

1051
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 3: offensive and defensive sides. I mean, we talked about guys

1052
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: saying what they're supposed to say, but at the same time,

1053
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: you're kind of calling guys out. And Aaron Whitecotton, the

1054
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: defensive line coach, did that, and so did the offensive

1055
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: line coach from your Kansas state, Connor Riley. Both of

1056
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: them talking about finishing and you're gonna do that or

1057
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: you're not going to play. And I mean, I thought

1058
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: that was kind of an interesting common theme that some

1059
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: of the I.

1060
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: Was wondering and Baby Belle asked a question about finishing,

1061
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: and I think he was taking a shot at Misi.

1062
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: I think that was a Misi directed question, and that

1063
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: was the answer, You're gonna finish, you're gonna run with

1064
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: energy or run to the.

1065
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 5: Ball, because those are things the air. I mean, Rob

1066
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 5: Marinelli talked about.

1067
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: You know, if you remember Mack, he made those you

1068
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: know lows, he made those guys sign the you know,

1069
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 1: his mere controversy, made the guy sign this agreement before

1070
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: he signed the contract that you will run hard and

1071
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: you won't loaf.

1072
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 5: You know, that's something that has been a big part

1073
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 5: of this.

1074
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: That's not in the player standard player contract. That was

1075
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 3: end that.

1076
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: Didn't done with.

1077
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: But just at that work out.

1078
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: How did lens but Connor Riley was talking about he

1079
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: was he was not. He was kind of sort of

1080
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: noncammental about where Cooper bebe?

1081
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: That was the question I asked, Yeah, because because Cooper

1082
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: was an All American guard for him out there at

1083
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: Kansas date that's where he played the entire time. And

1084
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: then then he talked about, well he did play.

1085
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 3: Right every race, He started a game at every place

1086
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: on the offensive line excepts center. Then he comes to

1087
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: Dallas and he starts what ninety seven percent of the

1088
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: snaps at center and outperforms the first round draft pick

1089
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: who was an offensive lineman as well. While making the

1090
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: conversion from a position change and going from college to

1091
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 3: pros is a third round pick. I mean, pretty incredible

1092
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: year he had, so he was.

1093
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: Better than that first round pick in college though. Picked

1094
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: because of potential, not because of production.

1095
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: But this is just me, I wonder do you go

1096
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: with I'll go back to Andre Gerrott.

1097
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: Andre Gerard was a All American guard at Colorado, but

1098
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: then Bill ended up putting him at center right figured

1099
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: it out late, but he played some center there and

1100
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: they ended up going to the big Total championship game,

1101
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: beating Longhoors that day. It was a lot of the

1102
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: strength of him. Sorry, do they do that same thing

1103
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: with Connor Beeble? Hey man, Let's put you back where

1104
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 2: we know you can excel. But I know some people

1105
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: get into the short arms and all this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 2: And maybe.

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Speaker 3: It depends on what Zach Martin does.

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Speaker 6: Yep, and Connor and Brock Coffe me.

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Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see what they do.

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Speaker 8: And Connor Riley knows him best because it was Connor

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Speaker 8: Riley's idea at Kansas sit it's actually train him as

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Speaker 8: a center before he even ever played center.

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Speaker 1: And it's going back to Zach Martin. I saw it

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Speaker 1: bowl he certainly says that he's gonna wait to his

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Speaker 1: leg heels to make it decision another four or five weeks.

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Speaker 5: But he was still a limit at the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: from surgery.

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Speaker 1: And you know, again you look at his contract, he's

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Speaker 1: Tim Meginnings the Cowboys cap. I just don't see him

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Speaker 1: coming back. He talked about it because he does not

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Speaker 1: want to just come back to play. He wants to

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Speaker 1: come back and be Zach Martin. And if he can't

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Speaker 1: be Zach Martin, I don't think he wants to play.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't either, He's got too much of a reputation.

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Speaker 3: But he sounded like you liked the way Schottenheimer was

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Speaker 3: style that.

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Speaker 5: They were going to. Oh no, no, he said all

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Speaker 5: the right things.

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Speaker 1: But when you just continue to talk to him and

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Speaker 1: then you walked him walk, you know he's not healthy yet.

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Speaker 4: All right, Clarence Hill most.

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Speaker 7: Trusted you didn't shave him into his injury. I don't

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Speaker 7: think just a quarterback, just the quarterback, just the quarterback.

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