1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: This is Jason of Mott and this is the NFL 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Player Second Acts Podcast. Check it out. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: What's up everybody. 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 3: I'll Peanut Tillman and this is the NFL Players Second 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: Acts Podcast. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm Peanut Tillman and this is my guy wrong. What's up, 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: mab what's up? Man? I mean, you didn't even count 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: it down, but you count it down. Why I gotta 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: go to one for the countdown? 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 4: You're right, You're right, you don't have to. 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 5: But anyways, what we get into all that, let's take 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 5: our viewers and our listeners. Wherever you pick up your podcast, 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 5: whether it's iHeartRadio or Apple Podcasts, thank you so much 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 5: as always, give us a five star rating, a review, 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 5: click follow, and make sure you continue to spread the 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 5: world about all the good things we're talking about here 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 5: on the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast. 18 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: So, Pnut, who's our guest today? 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: Hey man, we got a good one. 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: This guy is from uh I don't want to say 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: my hometown, but we're from We're from the same part 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: of the time. 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: We got from the same hood. 24 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: H fourth round draft pick in two thousand and six, 25 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: same draft class as you out of the University of Michigan. 26 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: Played ten years in the NFL, the Eagles, the Panthers, 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: and the Chief. Now he's an entrepreneur and has his 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: own podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Jason Levon. 29 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Jence the five four offside peanut defense type stuff going on. 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's trying to jump set you already. Yeah, he's 32 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 5: trying to jump set you already go to one. I mean, 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 5: clearly you don't. This is your show, won't. 34 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: Y'all probably won't see this, but I said, they the 35 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 3: camera man, they give me a speed all right, five four, 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: and then I just go right into it. 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't always have to go down to one. Man 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: Like I'm just hey, it's on your world. 39 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 6: It's sure world. 40 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 5: So you know, I'm really having me. Yeah, man, I'm 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 5: really really excited to have Jason in the building. I 42 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: said this outside and I tell the people as well 43 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 5: as and I want to look at the cameras like, 44 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 5: Jason Vaughan is one of the best human beings you'll 45 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 5: ever be in your life. 46 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: I had the pleasure to be a. 47 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 5: Teammate Hiss in twenty fourteen. I watched this man in college. 48 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 5: We came out the same year and to see you 49 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 5: grow and actually be in the locker room and share 50 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 5: that time with you. It was very special because you 51 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 5: were not only your emotions on your sleeve, but your 52 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: your faith on your sleeve. When you see you, we 53 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 5: see how strong your faith is. And not only that, 54 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 5: but it allows others whether you're trying to live that 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 5: life and walk that walk with God or you're trying 56 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 5: to get closer to that, you encourage it all and 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 5: you encourage more people to be themselves and who they 58 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: are and be in your spot and be comfortable with that. 59 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 5: And so anytime you got somebody as strong as you 60 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 5: are in your faith and still able to compete at 61 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 5: the highest level, you are a man that walks the walk, 62 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 5: talks to talk. And I just want everybody to know 63 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: it was how much of a pleasure it is to 64 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: share a locker room with somebody like you. 65 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, glory to God, And it was 66 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: always a pleasure to be around you. Ro You led 67 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: the defense like none other, You and Luke and everyone. 68 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: So I'd never really in an NFL like I would say, 69 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: I'd never really wanted to, you know, talk to people 70 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: about my faith. I wanted to a lot my life 71 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: to you know, speak the example. And that's anything as 72 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: far as leadership, right, So everyone has a I want 73 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: to talk. 74 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 6: I wanted to live out loud. 75 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: That was my goal and my purpose to go in 76 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: there and do that and I hopefully it resonated with 77 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: somebody and help someone. 78 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 5: Resona that one of the hardest working guys and he's 79 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 5: not a receiver like most are that are kind of divas. 80 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: I hate to say that, but. 81 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, hold on. 82 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: All of us have a little bit of and I'll 83 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: say that all of us think that we're the best 84 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: things in sliced bread. And that's okay, right, but you 85 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: hold yeah, you have to add somewhere down in there. 86 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: You just have to be willing to die for the 87 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: team when it comes to that process. Like so you 88 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: may be the person that's you know, going over the 89 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: middle catching the third and nine and giving up your body. 90 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: You have to be that person. Or you got to 91 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: be the guy that's starting the screen that get blocked. 92 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: You may have to do that. But all of us 93 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: think that we're open on every player, right and every 94 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: play I'm open, Like throw me the ball, like you 95 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: want to win or not. 96 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 6: That's in the back of all mind. 97 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate you clearing that up. 98 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, funny. 99 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: So I'm what I made at thirteen? You got what teen? 100 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 6: What are you? Twelve? 101 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: Eleven? Excuse me? 102 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: So crazy stories throughout our entire careers, high school, college, 103 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: all that. 104 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: What was your welcome. 105 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: To the NFL moment when you got in the league 106 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 3: back in oh six? 107 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: You know what, when I got I wish I could 108 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: run faster. That was my like Achilles heel, if I 109 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: can run faster, man, I would be a pro bowler, 110 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame if I could run fast. 111 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 6: Right. 112 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: So I remember getting into the league and I'm thinking 113 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to go into camp because I had all 114 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: the shake at the line of scrimmage and I was 115 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: shak a dude, and I'm like, dude, I'm slow because 116 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: he would catch up. I was shaking boom boom. I'll 117 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: be passing and I'll turn around. He's like right there. 118 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I got to come up with like 119 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: three or four moves within this pattern in order to 120 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: get it, you know, in order to compete. But I 121 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: would say, seeing Nan dy Asen, why in the Hall 122 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: of Fame game, just on this, Like I wasn't mean yet, 123 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: but I was like right next to him. 124 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 6: He was lining up. 125 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, this dude is like six ' four six 126 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: and like lining up and touching everybody. No matter what 127 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: you did, he got his hands on you. That was 128 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: like my welcome NFL moment. I remember talking junk to 129 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: Rendny Mosso on the sideline. Once I got into the 130 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: game and I'd be in a run a rout and 131 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: I slipped down the field, He's like, real, shut up 132 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: and just play a game. 133 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 6: That Hall of Fame game is like my wocom to 134 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 6: the NFL moment. 135 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it because most people don't realize that 136 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 5: how fast the game is, how how what it looks 137 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: like when you come from college and you get into 138 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 5: a locker room. 139 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: Like, oh no, that's a pro Oh way different, way different. 140 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: My I remember going into like I had a lot 141 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: of injuries my first year. Went to University of Michigan. 142 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: So everybody's like favorite players, Charles Wilson. 143 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 6: Yes, like being at the University of Michigan. 144 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Charles Woolson's like every that dude. So we we're going 145 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: up to play Green Bay and he got traded to 146 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: Green Bay and I'm up all night because I'm in 147 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: the slot. And this is back in the day where 148 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: like there was dudes in the slot, you know, like 149 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: playing the slot. So he's in the slot and I'm up, 150 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: all name, I'm dude, I'm about to go against Charles Wilson. 151 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: He about to embarrass me whatever it was. I'm like, no, 152 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: let's go out and give him work. I made him 153 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: fall down in that game, and I was like, oh, I. 154 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 6: Can play in the NFL nowadays. 155 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was his worst rep that probably he 156 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: ever had, but I remember it. It was like the 157 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: defining moment in my career. 158 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes that's all the take though, just for you, they 159 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: little like, man, I got this, I can plain this. 160 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: Little I want to know what did it feel like. 161 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 5: Take us back in that moment the Miracle on Meadowlands 162 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 5: when De'shawn Jackson fumbled the punt then all of a 163 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: sudden scoops it up takes it back to the house. 164 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: For those that know, Deshaun Watson returned a punt versus Jackson. 165 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 5: Shawn Jackson sorry returned the punt versus the New York 166 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 5: Giants to win the game. It was crazy and he 167 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 5: even did good by kind of show breading at the end, 168 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 5: they kind of run. 169 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 6: Out the class. 170 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were the craziest thing about that game is 171 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: we were down twenty one, I know twenty one or 172 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: some points like that were maybe like five minutes ago. 173 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 6: It was, it was, it was. 174 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: It was a crazy game. It's a lot of turnovers, 175 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: a lot of yah at, a lot of fumbles. 176 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: So I remember, I need neither one of us at 177 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: this point in our career are on punt return. DeShawn 178 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a normal punk returner at that time, and I 179 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: wasn't a normal but but I was always known to 180 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: be a good like punt return as far as like 181 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: getting blocks and or block and the kick. So the 182 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: coach like, hey, j we need you to go in 183 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: and try to block the kick. 184 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 6: So I go out. So I tell Joshawna like, de Shawn, 185 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 6: you gotta go. 186 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm going there. You're going in there. So Shohn's like, oh, 187 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: of course I'm going in. And so I couldn't get 188 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: to the punt block. But I see him drop the 189 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: ball and as soon as he drops the ball, Olmark 190 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Gather knocks down three dudes with one block. A little question. 191 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: We got a little dude on the edge, you know, 192 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: like the little pad, that front pad got him and 193 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: knock knock. 194 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: The Giants said to Quick in the Phillies, he was 195 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: like very by. 196 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: So so Deshaun hits that whole. I see one dude 197 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: left as me, and I think it's Mike Diassi, the snapper, 198 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: the snapper linebacker. 199 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: He wasn't. 200 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: He wasn't just a snapper. He was a linebacker that 201 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: got converted into a snapper. And so I tried to 202 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: go in with good technique, but I was so excited 203 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: I went in. I knocked both of us out. Worst 204 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: technique ever, but it was the game winning block. I'll 205 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: take it right. So went to we went to the 206 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: ES for that play and you guys, you guys went 207 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: to we want to ask me for that play. 208 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: Did you ever get any love for that block that 209 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: you gave All the. 210 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: Time in Philly, they still remember that probably the most 211 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: defining block of my career. Like they remember a couple 212 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: of catches in that block. Oh man, I remember that 213 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: block with de Sean Jackson. I'm like, cool, whatever it takes, 214 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: keep on inviting me back to these appearance. Make this money. 215 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: So you knocked yourself out, So yeah, I did see 216 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: that you stayed down after that too, though. 217 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: Oh yeah we knocked I knocked both of us out, 218 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: and it was like I didn't have to do it. 219 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: Back in those days. He was just like running the people. 220 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't like protection it like it is now. 221 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: That's where you get them kill shots. Nobody was looking. Yeah, 222 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: that's back. What was real. Yeah, that's what we did 223 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: all the time. Are you going, Oh yeah, sorry, I 224 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: thought it was your question. I apologize, My bad, My bad. 225 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: Tell me tell me a story about Andy Reid. I 226 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: hear this dude is like so chill, so laid back dudes. 227 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: He really liked cheeseburgers. 228 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: Oh, he talks about cheeseburger and ice cream like like 229 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: no tomorrow. 230 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: Oh, he just talks about him all. 231 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: He talks about cheeseburgers and ice cream. 232 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 6: That's what he does. 233 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: He's like he's a cheeseburger dude. 234 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard it, but I've never like asked someone 235 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: like the question. 236 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: Like he really always had like the best chefs and 237 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: stuff around the Eagles just because like they paid, they 238 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: paid chefs a lot of money at the Eagles chiefs 239 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: wherever he is, because that that man can eat. That's 240 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: what he's. 241 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 6: Unapologetic about that. 242 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'll tell you some a story about coach. 243 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: What makes him kind of special is that you hear 244 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: people talk about using players to their optimal ability, but 245 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: he's really about that life. He is a guy that 246 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: examines who he's drafted and already has a clear defined role. 247 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: And he's not a coach that pays within the lines. 248 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: That's what makes him different. You see what Kelsey and 249 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes does all the time. They're usually playing off 250 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: time the play is done, and those two guys can 251 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: play backyard football. But Coach Reid is one of the 252 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: only coaches that would allow that. Like I said, I 253 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a fast guy. And I told Coach Red, you know, 254 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: earlier in my career. I think after my second year, 255 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Coach, everyone in this building wants 256 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: me to run these lines, but I'm not going to 257 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: be able to get open the way you get open. 258 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I know my responsibility, I know where I need to be. 259 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: Just let me go without outside the lines to get open. 260 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, as long as you can do it 261 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: within the system, let's. 262 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 6: Go ahead and do it. 263 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: And I was able to play ten years in the 264 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: League because he allowed me that autonomy, and he did 265 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: that for multiple players that probably wouldn't have made it 266 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: on other teams. But because he had that open mindedness, 267 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: that's what makes him special. He thinks outside of the box. 268 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there Washington Commanders and watching area be enemy 269 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: and coach read their games. 270 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 6: They run the same exact offense that we ran. 271 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Then the quarterback can do a little bit more, but 272 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: just create just creative stuff, just different formations, different motions, 273 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: same place. 274 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 5: Look, as a player, all we ever asked for the 275 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 5: coach to help us, put put in position to make place. 276 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: That's the best coaches. They don't over coach it. 277 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: They ain't over We're gonna put you in possession to 278 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: make you know there's no superhero that's gonna come in 279 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 5: off the street and help save us. The ones we 280 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: got in the room is who we're gonna win with. 281 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 282 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: I always said, like you said, put us in position 283 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: and eliminate the gray area. Don't have a people in 284 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: the situation where you told me to do something as 285 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: a coach and then it didn't work, and now you're 286 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: blaming me in the media. Now, No, no, you told 287 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: me to do that like, just eliminate great area. I 288 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: love the coaches that stand up like I taught him 289 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: to do this. I'll take it, you know, I told 290 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: him to do that. Just eliminate gray area and put 291 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: us in good position. 292 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: You're good, Jason. 293 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 5: So looking back on your career, if you had one 294 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 5: word to sum up your career, whether you're what are 295 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 5: you proud of? What do you look back on and say, Man, 296 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 5: this would be like who I am. If it's not 297 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,119 Speaker 5: one word, one statement, one thought. 298 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: You know what I would say this is that I'm 299 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: blessed because I believe I got the most out of 300 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: my ability. If the NFL standard, you know, had a baseline, 301 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: I would think that I would be right below that baseline. 302 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 6: But I was. 303 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: Able to overachieve and get the most because I put 304 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: in to work for it. So I'm proud of it. 305 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: I can look at even my failures, like there's times 306 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: where I dropped the ball, but I never dropped the 307 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: ball out of fear I was attacking. I can look 308 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: at myself in the mirror knowing that I was attacking 309 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: the football, knowing I was going after a dude. I 310 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: don't care if it was a linebackers of safety. Everybody 311 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: knew if I was out there, you're gonna get cut, 312 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you, something's gonna happen, right, So I 313 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: can I can look at myself in the mirror knowing 314 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: that I attacked it not having the most talent, and 315 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: I made the best out of it. And I was 316 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: always a team, stand up person, right and that And 317 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: that's the only thing that you can say, Like I 318 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: wish I had Calvin Johnson's abilitybody. I wish I did, 319 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: But everyone's not. Everyone doesn't have that. And these are 320 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: the stories that we don't hear, you know, Like you 321 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: don't hear about the special teams guy that may not 322 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: have the most talent, or the guy that's the backup 323 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: tight end or the third receiver, fourth receiver. Like you 324 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: can make something. 325 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: Look at Slater, say you can. 326 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: You can make something out of yourself. And as long 327 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: as you willing to do that work, you know. So 328 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. 329 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: That's what's up. 330 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: So I'm a Chicago guy. You're a Chicago guy, and 331 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: I still live there now tons of violence in the city. Uh, 332 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: my dad lived in the gardens. 333 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: This kid wild wild hunters. Yeah, so my gardens. 334 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give I went to school there, That's what 335 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: he talking about it. 336 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: So my pops is from the Wild Hunters, and I 337 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: mean it's it's changed a lot, and the violence it grows. 338 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: And grows every year. 339 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: Talk to me about one, like some of the things 340 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: that you saw as a kid, and two like how 341 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: that situation, how those situations that you saw as a 342 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: kid kind of changed you and mold you to who 343 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: you are today. 344 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you, guys the story because this is about 345 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: the When I think about this, it started to make 346 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: me cry and tear up because God has been good 347 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: to me. My grandmother who raised me. I didn't have 348 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: a my mom left and I was a baby. My 349 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: dad was in and out of jail, and my grandmother 350 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: had a house on the side side of Chicago. We 351 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: grew up in the Auguilt Robert Taylor Horn Projects. Then 352 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: she moved to ninety first Street neighborhood nine to Oh 353 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: Game Gangster Disciples. And you know, she was like a 354 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: preme woman and she we loved the community. She would 355 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have a place to go, so I had 356 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: to stay in my grandmother's room. It was fourteen people 357 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: in this house at times. A lot of people, cousins, 358 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: multiple people, and every night she would lay hands on me. Lord, 359 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: do something for him, get him out of this neighborhood, 360 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: change his life, give him direction. She used to pray 361 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: for me thirty minutes every night at least. I would 362 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: go to sleep every night with her, you know, praying 363 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: for me, her and my aunt with the like two 364 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: solid people in my family. On the other side of 365 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: the aisle, different part of the house. I had family 366 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: members that were like leaders in the gangster disciples. Not 367 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: like normal like foot soldiers or laymen. No, we're talking 368 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: about regions and coordinators like of gangs. So before you 369 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: know it, I was selling drugs in and out in 370 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: the streets sixth, seventh and eighth grade. Like I knew 371 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: it was like to carry pistols, shoot guns. I knew 372 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: it is like to cut cocaine and cut cocaine when 373 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I was a young boy. Because of this other side 374 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: of my family, and I've had multiple family members that 375 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: were shot up on our poor that we had to 376 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: pull in and try to resuscitate them, called the ambulance, 377 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: all types of like horrific thing. But the thing that 378 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: kind of was a saving grace for me was my 379 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: grandmother's prayers. Lord do something for him, change his life, 380 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: and get him out of this neighborhood. And I wasn't. 381 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: I was a part of my environment, but it wasn't 382 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: in my heart. I was the scariest drug dealer in 383 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: the history of drug dealers, right. It just wasn't me 384 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: because of the way my grandmother had me wire. Our 385 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: house was raided two times, and then if you get 386 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: raided three times in the state of Illinois, they take it. 387 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 6: They take you home, and. 388 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: So my grandmother scattered us all over Chicago. I wasn't 389 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: playing sports at all, but in this next neighborhood, I 390 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: was playing basketball, and I was good at it. I 391 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,359 Speaker 1: began to be like a very good player. My basketball 392 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: coach went to Carver Military Academy. It wasn't military then, 393 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: it was just car Very High School. Was also the 394 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: football coach co Simp. Coach Simp is the basketball coach 395 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: and the football coach. He said, you can't play basketball 396 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: for me unless you play football. Man. He put me 397 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: on the linebacker. The first practice. I sold me with 398 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: the full back. I'm at linebacker. This dude killed me 399 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: by a good eight to ten straight times. I quit yo, Mama. 400 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: My dad calls from prison and tell and my grandmother 401 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: tells me the story. My dad told me, you don't 402 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: want to end up in prison, get back out there. 403 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 6: Do this. 404 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: He changes my position. This is when I was at 405 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: sophomore in high school. 406 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 6: Put me at running back. I was so. 407 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: Afraid to get touched, either a touchdown out of bounds 408 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: or I got down before I can get hit. For 409 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: an entire year, play corner. Every time they threw the 410 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: ball my way, I picked it. So next year they're like, hey, 411 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: let's put this dude that receiver as a junior one 412 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: year playing receivers, number one place, number one player in 413 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: the state Illinois. And it was my grandmother every night, 414 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Lord do something special in his life, change his life, 415 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: getting out of his neighborhood. It would be people coming 416 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: up to me, look, God's gonna touch your hands. Put 417 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: oil on my hands. He gonna do something with your hands. 418 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to get out of his neighborhood, 419 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: change your family's life. Because it's these are the stories 420 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: that that just happened. So the things that it's a 421 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: miracle for me to be standing here and be sitting 422 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: here talking to you guys today. It was because of 423 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: my grandmother's prayers, because of the people that are around me, 424 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: people like coach Simp, people like my aunt. So that's 425 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: my story of growing up and and and it's and 426 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: that's why like I was strong in faith, is because 427 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: I realized that the power of God, like I no 428 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: killers grew up with. 429 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 6: It was a part of that. 430 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: And and that's why I always had like a mean 431 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: streak even though I was a even though I was 432 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: a save dude, Like I still got a little south 433 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: side in me. 434 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 6: Just for a rainy day. They never went anywhere. 435 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: It's just it's just it's always been. 436 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 5: Like, don't let this kind is fool you don't let 437 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 5: this brown jacket get it away. 438 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: Try Jesus not me. Because I throw. 439 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: Hand, I can't. I can't pull this jacket off. If 440 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 5: you tough, if it's tough, all right. One more just 441 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 5: going back on that because you know myself growing up 442 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 5: in Alabama, Uh, definitely on the other side of the 443 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 5: tracks where it's like I'm up, I would say middle 444 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 5: class where I grew up at. What was that time 445 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 5: lack and what is the mental capacity of an eleven 446 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 5: twelve year old kid being comfortable around cutting up cocaine 447 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 5: or having to carry a gun, like, how can maybe 448 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: just take me there at a mindset? And you said 449 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: you were scared, but every day I know you couldn't 450 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 5: show that fear. 451 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 452 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: No, So like when you're like you, it's just like 453 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: anything else, you know, like when you get to play 454 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: that first time you get to play football with the 455 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: older dudes, and you can't show even though you frayed 456 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: out of your mind, show it. You can't show it. 457 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: You can't show it. 458 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 6: Right, they try to. 459 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: Throw you up in the air, let's hit you, Let's 460 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: see if you can take it, you know, that type 461 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: of thing. And that's what it was for me. So 462 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: you had to play that way in order to survive. 463 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: So you didn't think this was something that you just 464 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: got tired of people talking about your XJ nine hundreds. 465 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: You remember, ex John, you're from Chicago. There was a 466 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: payless version of Shoes where Jordan dunk like from the side, 467 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: and you get tired of that. So you see somebody 468 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: that's in the streets selling drugs, Right, they got the 469 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: friend that's Jordan's one, They got a nice car, they 470 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: have money, they have watched they have something that you 471 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: would like and you're impoverish, right, so you want those things. 472 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: So that kind of that kind of changes the way 473 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: you think about it. You're like, this is just what 474 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: I got to do in order to get by. So 475 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: it was more of like a necessity in my mind 476 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: rather than I was thinking. I wasn't thinking about the 477 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: future at that moment at time. And also I couldn't 478 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: let my family's name down as well. It was there 479 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: was something like their family on the South side of Chicago. 480 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: We had a little bit of ring to it when 481 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: it came to Larry Hoover's Games Disciples, That's what it was. 482 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you have like a close story like 483 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 3: looking back on that time now and it was like, man, 484 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: I know God got me out of that situation, but 485 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 3: that was really close that I almost died. 486 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: Or do you have a like crazy stuff I remember 487 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: like back in the day, like this is kind of 488 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: getting in that Back in the day, they used to 489 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: have like where we used to keep crack cocaine. It 490 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: used to be in your zipper do we call it 491 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: zipper roo you're cutting incision on the inside of your zipper, 492 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: would stick it down in there and I didn't like 493 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: it because there was this dude named super Cop in 494 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: our neighborhood that would always check the zipper root right. 495 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: So I used to keep it in my shoe like 496 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: in like this little concealed So the police swooped out 497 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: of the out of the alley so fast one time 498 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: and got all of us hemmed up, and I had 499 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: it in my shoe, and he went to go take 500 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: my shoe off, and poop, got a little call taking 501 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: him to terror Town, which is like seventy fifth Street, yeah, 502 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: down down there right, so and literally he was in 503 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: my shoe, right in my left shoe. I used to 504 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: keep it and got a call, got out of there. 505 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: I was like, man, that was a miracle in and 506 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: of itself. My junior year, I'm I'm into sports now 507 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: and I would go train at different places. 508 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 6: I have my aunt's car. 509 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to cut up one hundred and fifteenth Street, 510 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: and on this area one hundred and fifteenth Street, it's 511 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 1: like a bunch of Mexicans Hispanics there right, and in 512 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: this particular area, the Mexicans and black people didn't get along. 513 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: It's like Latin Kings, gangster disciples. They didn't get along. 514 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: You don't go through that neighborhood. They don't come through 515 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: your neighborhood. And that's just how it was growing up there. 516 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: It was taken so long, and I was getting so 517 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: fresh out. I'm like, Dae, I'm gonna make this left 518 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: and get up here before anybody see me. I make 519 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: a left. And as soon as I make a left, it 520 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: was a car on the corner that I didn't not 521 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: see with his lights off. Group of Hispanic men t 522 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: bone my car. At this time, I had a torn 523 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: ACL right because I tore my ACL on High School. 524 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't get out of the car, but they were 525 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: able to wedge me over and stop us both. I 526 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: tried to get out of the car and run. It 527 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: was enough space there, but I was panicking. I couldn't 528 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: get out because it was kind of tight. The dude 529 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: had got out. They were like speaking fans. The dude 530 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: got out with something in his hand, coming around like. 531 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: I was able to get my car off of his 532 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: and go up through yards and go across State Street 533 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: full speed and able to get out of there. Like 534 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: certain certain things I look back on my life. Man, 535 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: God has had his hand on me for a long time. 536 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's just how. 537 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: Your grandmother has definitely planted that seed. God is looking 538 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: after you since day one, honestly, and talking about that. 539 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: What would your grandmother if she could tell us right 540 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 5: now looking back on what Jason Levon has become this man, what. 541 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 6: Would she say about you? 542 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I think about this a lot because I lost when 543 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: I was in college. And it's so funny. It's because 544 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: she gave me like my first like Bible and my 545 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: first like CD when I was like a senior going 546 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: off to college. She gave me all this stuff like 547 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: I had, we had stuff in the house, but she 548 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: gave me my own personal stuff. And I got to college, 549 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm from Chicago at Universus Michigan. I'm 550 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: gona turned this place out. So later in my freshman year, 551 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: I like kind of committed to Christ, committed to God, 552 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: and not too much longer after that she died. Seemed 553 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: like she was being she was waiting around just for 554 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: for that to happen, and so I'm just hoping that 555 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm making her proud. 556 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and that's the only thing that you 557 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 6: could do. 558 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I know that she would be because I'm one of 559 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: the only people with my family to attend and to 560 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: complete college, and and it's and it's and I know 561 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: she's proud. 562 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: Of that man. That's great man. And she would be yeah, yeah, yeah. 563 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: So what do you what would you tell a kid 564 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 3: in a similar situation? Right, Uh, I live there, so 565 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: I see the news all the time, and there's always 566 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: a lot of carjackings, and there's a bunch of fourteen 567 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 3: year olds and fifteen year olds krjacking people and robbing people. 568 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: And I want to believe that these young men are 569 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: fairly or in some situations kind of like you as 570 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 3: a kid, like maybe just no guidance from say a 571 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 3: father figure, and. 572 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: They just need someone to love them. 573 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: So if you could offer these young men some orders 574 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: of encouragement, what would you tell them? 575 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I get access, because I do. I still do, CAM 576 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: still do a bunch of stuff back home. I would 577 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: say this is that you have to hear a higher word. 578 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 6: And that's the thing. Right. 579 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: So, I'm a firm believer in that faith comes by hearing. 580 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: So if you hear that, you can make it. It's 581 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: like the home team. The home team normally wins most 582 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: because the home team is the one that's being applauded most. 583 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: And the kid that gets applauded, gets encouraged, gets positivity, 584 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: gets positive reinforcement and affirmation is the kid that's going 585 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: to be successful. So I would say, gravitate towards the 586 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 1: people that's giving you positive information and use that's going 587 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: to come into If you don't have a parent at home, 588 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: it's going to come in the form of a counselor, 589 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: is going to come in form of a teacher, is 590 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: going to come in form of the boys club, the YMCA. 591 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: Get involved in structure where you're going to have positive 592 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: reinforcement because that thought process is what's going to change. 593 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: I remember hearing those things and having like small experiences. 594 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: I would love when my aunt would take me to 595 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: six Flags because you know, she worked there and she 596 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: would get those passes for her family every now and 597 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: again and I would go. But that was me seeing 598 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: something and hearing different things, right, So I would say, 599 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: try your best to get experiences that are outside of 600 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: your community, and also stay around people that's going to 601 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: give you positive reinforcement when it comes to affirmations. 602 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: We'll be back in a minute, dude. That's why I 603 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: had to write it. 604 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 6: Down. 605 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 5: That's that's gold. I hope everybody really caught that. That 606 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: was a gold nugget right there. 607 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 608 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Man, So what are you up to now? 609 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I know, I've urad you buy the deep 610 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 5: divage with the crowd police the whole lot. 611 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 6: I've been so. 612 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: I've been running the Long Strampoline Park in South Jersey. 613 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: I had three stores. I'm down to one. I sold. 614 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: I sold too, but I still have my one in 615 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: death for New Jersey. I've been doing it since two 616 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen. I actually retired in order to do that. 617 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: I still had, you know, some training camp stuff. But 618 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: you never know training camphen we get old, they just 619 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: want you as a training camp body. But anyhow, I 620 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: was like, it was time for me to be done. 621 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: I shadowed when I was playing, so I was yeah. 622 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: I went to sky zones, I went to you know, 623 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Dave and Busters. I went to main events. I went 624 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: to Dready's. I went to all types of places and 625 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: just used my name, like, hey, I'm this person played 626 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: for the Eagles. It's like, oh, come on in and 627 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: just say how to my customers. But they wouldn't have 628 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: showed me. They would show me how to you know, 629 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: do books. They would show me how to book parties, 630 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: work the POS system, inventory all types of things. And 631 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: I did that when in the off seasons. And when 632 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: I retired, I was already ahead of the curve when 633 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: they came to running my own business because I was 634 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: in the parks in the off seasons and uh, and 635 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: I did that and and the store was number one 636 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: for I don't know five out of my sevens going 637 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: on seven years. Yeah, five, yes, it's been five a 638 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: seven years we've been number one store. And uh, I 639 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: love to do it. 640 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 6: I do that. 641 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: I do, you know, radio for the radio sideline and 642 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: color for the University of Michigan all of their games. 643 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 6: Right, So I do that. 644 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: I do NBC Sports Philadelphia, CB Sports Philadelphia, multiple podcasts, 645 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: trying my best to become like you gentlemen, and you know, 646 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: keep it going in any aspect. 647 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: So, now, why was it important for you to do 648 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: that the grunt work when you didn't have to, like, 649 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: do you think it made you better? 650 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: It made you a better businessman? 651 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know why, because I can't deny that. Yes, 652 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: the NFL is great and it's provided for us in 653 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: ways that we couldn't imagine and for our families and 654 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: for generations after us if we do right right, So 655 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: you can't deny that, But I'm not ignorant to the 656 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: fact that we've been doing football for so long. 657 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: That's all we know. 658 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been doing it a long time. And so 659 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go and invest my money and 660 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: not have any experience in this. So I would I 661 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: figured that if I can get into a franchise that 662 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: has a proven track record one and then me work 663 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: in the business for multiple years in the off season, 664 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: and I would say total will probably be a year 665 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: and a half, but to get comfortable with it, to 666 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: see if I like it and to see if I 667 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: can realistically run it and have that experience. So it 668 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: was instead of going back to school for it, it was 669 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: just basically a really long internship, you know. So I 670 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: thought that was important to do. 671 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 5: So this podcast you're on, you and Quinn Michael, Yeah, 672 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 5: big fan of as a safety, would did. 673 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: You guys the one year before that? 674 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm barely missing at Carolina. He had always 675 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 5: watched when he's at Saint Louis, and I always watched 676 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: him everywhere he was at just because you know, when 677 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 5: you play the same position. 678 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 6: As what you you got to sell me a couple. 679 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 5: Of things about that guy and what what makes that 680 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 5: podcast stand out? Because we can always plug and show 681 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 5: love because we all need to follow each other and 682 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 5: we all well we always have for each other. 683 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: So we we are on inside the Birds YouTube platform, 684 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: Amazon and all that, and but it's called the Q 685 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: and A Show. And Q is a like a great 686 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: dude and he's always been a rock solid teammate, rock 687 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: solid dad. And I love to be around people like that. 688 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's easy to work with like minded people, 689 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: right to have like your same values, your same approach, 690 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: the same you know, methodical approach that you have when 691 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: it comes to looking looking at the film and game. 692 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: So when we're when we're talking, you know receiver and 693 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: you know dB play. You know, it's it's pretty interesting 694 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: because you know it's coming from you know, guys that 695 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: had to know the game. Like you know, everybody in 696 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: this room had to, like really know. There's some we 697 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: all know dudes that just were so athletic that they 698 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: didn't have to do crap. But us in this room 699 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: had to know the game. And that adds a lot 700 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: of value to a podcast. 701 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 6: You know, so we have fun doing it. 702 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: We you know, talk about some off the wall topics 703 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: sometimes and and he always say he's my my. He 704 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: keeps it real, both of us do. Like the hardest 705 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: thing about being you know, in the media is your relationship. 706 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 6: With your team. 707 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: That's the that's the toughest part, right because I still 708 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: do a bunch of stuff for the Eagles, like I like, 709 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm probably like their number one legend, right when it 710 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: comes to like sports camps that they do. I just 711 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: did one this morning, speaking of corporate sponsors, like I 712 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: still do. I would say fifty events for the Eagles 713 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: a year. So you have to call it out, like 714 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: so if Jalen Hurst is not playing bad, playing well, 715 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: I have to say it. 716 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: But there's a way. But there's a way to say 717 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: it though there's. 718 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: There there there's a political way to say it, and 719 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: then there's a way to say it like we say it. 720 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: And I think that has the most I think that's 721 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: the realest way to say it, not not in a 722 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: disrespectful way. But if a dude, like if we're in 723 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: locker room and I'm and I'm talking to like ro man, 724 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: you can't you can't keep getting beat on the post. 725 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: This thirteen times got beat on the post. 726 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: I'm just calling balls and strikes. I'm literally just calling 727 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 5: balls and strikes. 728 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: RNNI. 729 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: Here's something that's like, oh man, he garbage, Like you can't. 730 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: That's that's I guess that's the point I'm trying to 731 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: get out, Like you can't just be that. 732 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 5: But Rodney ain't tackled nobody in a while, so like, 733 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 5: the further you get it, sometimes you kind of wiggle 734 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 5: into that, so like and it happens. 735 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 4: I mean, nobody's perfect, but yeah. 736 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 6: I don't think you did it on purpose. 737 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, you can't. 738 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 6: You can't. You can't. 739 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: And Rodney's my man. 740 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm afraid of about it, you know. 741 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 6: Because I know him. 742 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: It was hilarious, Like, dude, you can't say that out loud, 743 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: No you can't. 744 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: He forgot he was on camera. 745 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah it was live. 746 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: It was just live. 747 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: And sometimes he's like, you know, he garbage. 748 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 5: It's just but as pros, we see guys and when 749 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 5: they play in garbage, it's hard for us not to 750 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 5: say that. 751 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: Yes, like they could be better. 752 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: Especially when you're talking about NFL. NFL the highest quality 753 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 5: of players execution, like the margins of error are so small, 754 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 5: that's what we're used to seeing. 755 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: And when you don't live. 756 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 5: Up to those expectations, especially when you get to check, 757 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 5: because once you get to check, the expectations rise with 758 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: money with the NFL dollars comes more responsibility with that, 759 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 5: and more criticism on the other side of it, So 760 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 5: it's all warranted. 761 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: And look, everybody's got big. 762 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 5: Boy pants on once you're in that locker room, so 763 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 5: nobody's invincible to getting called out. 764 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: Everybody can get it. 765 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: Everybody can get it. 766 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Here. Here's the thing that's really tough to navigate. If 767 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: you're in the media and you've been covering the team, 768 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: you don't know Nuance like we know Nuance. So I 769 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: can call out something that most people can. So now 770 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm the bad guy because I can see it, and 771 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: I can look at the tables like, no, it wasn't 772 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: this person, it was this person, this and this, and 773 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: now I'm bringing the light something that maybe nobody else 774 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: would have saying exactly so, and so those types things 775 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 1: can get you in trouble. 776 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 5: Jason, we literally our producer behind you. He's not on camera, 777 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 5: he's gonna stay away. But Thomas, we were just going 778 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 5: over some film because I'm watching film for my other 779 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 5: show this weekend. And literally we're talking ball and I 780 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 5: got Peanut in here, and I'm ad like, Peanut, like, 781 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 5: what is this defense? 782 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: He's like, dude, I don't even know what that is. 783 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 5: And Thomas starts to asking questions and so we're breaking 784 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 5: down all right from the defensive backfield where your eyes 785 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 5: need to be the technique here. Thomas was just enthralled with, like, 786 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 5: so you're really not looking here? He just the more 787 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 5: and more we talk, the more and more questions he has. 788 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 5: You can go really really deep football. People don't know 789 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 5: how deep the nuanced situation or section in football goes. 790 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: We just see it so differently though, that's the crazy part. 791 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 3: We Yeah, I'm not looking at the quarterback like that. 792 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: I like the wire copy personally when I watched when 793 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 3: I watch football games, I don't like I like, I 794 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: want to see all twenty two guys. I want to 795 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 3: see the safety drop. I want to see the linebackers drop. 796 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: I need to see the corners who's cutting jumping, like 797 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: who's taking the cheese? 798 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 7: Like? 799 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: I want to be able to see all because that 800 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: tells the real That tells the real story. 801 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: Because people only follow the ball. So they think that 802 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: because the guy has a lot of turnover, say for 803 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: a defensive back, meaning that he's like this lockdown dude 804 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: or something because he's intercepting. 805 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 6: But they don't. 806 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: They don't mean that. You may be a guy that 807 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: can that has great timing, but when it comes down 808 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: to it, you can't. Yeah, you can't cover a dude. 809 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 6: Team know that. That's why they keep throwing it. 810 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so like look different things like that, 811 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: and like as a receiver, you're not always you're not 812 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: always like a secondary first position. It's a lot like 813 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: there's dudes that's getting open each and that week. They 814 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: don't get the ball very trip, a bad quarterback, bad 815 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: offense line, running back, and I picked the blitz. You 816 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: can't get the ball. 817 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 6: That's how it. 818 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk about the You were in 819 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: the Jason Kelsey document right, Yeah, and you had a 820 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 3: conversation about retirement when you were at the at the table. 821 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: Can you can you talk about that and how that 822 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 3: how that conversation went. 823 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, we didn't I didn't. I 824 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: didn't know that it was a documentary. Right, Really, I 825 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: got some paperwork a couple weeks ago saying, hey, you 826 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: gotta signed off. So it's like I didn't We didn't 827 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: know because we were just like buddies playing poker and 828 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of organized it, right because kind of bro Yeah, 829 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: and so we all hang out anyway. We always we're 830 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: at different events. We played cards anyway, right, So just 831 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: kicking it and and so the cameras are around, but 832 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not too weird because all of us 833 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: are around cameras a lot doing things. 834 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 6: So we didn't know it. 835 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: And it's not gonna change you that much real because we. 836 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Used to being around the camera. So we just didn't 837 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: have a conversation. It was some stuff said that night 838 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: that would have been very interesting, but you know, they 839 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: took it out right. But no, the conversation was all 840 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: of us, you know, I like listening to Olaz. Mike 841 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: Quick was there, Harold Carmichael was there. It was some 842 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: guys like giving like a bunch of wisdom out and 843 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: I was just telling him that I was like, first 844 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: of all, you're like the mayor of Philadelphia, so you 845 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need football. 846 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 6: Your checks are going to be big. 847 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: If you tell any one of these you know radio stations, 848 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: television stations that Jason Kelcey wants is interested in them. 849 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: You'll be fine, So you don't necessarily need this. And 850 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: I just told him to listen to his body. He 851 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: gotta you know, I know he loves it. And what's 852 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: what's keeping them going is Jalen Hurts. And people don't 853 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: know this, Like what keeps Jason Kelcey moving is Jalen 854 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: Hurts because he feels that Jalen Hurts is the best 855 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: leader that he's been around and the guy that moves 856 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: the needle and they have a great relationship. And it's 857 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: actually from that moment in time he was like literally 858 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: like not knowing if he was going to come back, 859 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, lay in that you know oft you know, 860 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: to start the season, and now you know when you 861 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,479 Speaker 1: talk to him now, I was like, dude, this dude 862 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: behind center is just amazing. 863 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 6: I want to see him win one. 864 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to be a part of it. 865 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: I want to be a part of helping him. 866 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 3: But that's when you know you got a good team though, 867 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 3: Like the two super Bowl teams that I was on, 868 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 3: when I tried to make our room, when we met 869 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 3: our run, our locker room was so dope, and I 870 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: wanted to win. 871 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: A Super Bowl one for myself, but. 872 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 3: More importantly, I really wanted to win it for you, 873 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 3: and he wanted to win it for the next person, 874 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. 875 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 2: And I think when you have a team, you got 876 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: a group of men. 877 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 3: You got all fifty three guys that believe and think 878 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: the same exact way, and they're not selfish. 879 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: They play unselfish football. 880 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 3: It's eleven guys doing one thing, not not one guy 881 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: doing eleven different things. Like when you can get eleven 882 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 3: guys doing one thing, like, that's when you know you 883 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: got a really good team. And I think Jason and Hurts, 884 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 3: they to me, they bestow that like I feel that 885 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: when I when I look at them when he talks 886 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: about him, like you feel it. 887 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got real chemistry. 888 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: I just hate playing against this that the Bears defense, boy, 889 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: because you know, you know two things, you just gonna 890 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: get hit right and the grass is gonna be about 891 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: this long man. 892 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 2: Man, I didn't even have. 893 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 5: I didn't even have I didn't wear seven studs. You 894 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 5: going to Chicago, you better have seven studs. The only 895 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 5: place where the grass is. 896 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: Just seven studs and I played it was a home team, 897 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: Like I wore the seventh You wore seven studs every week. 898 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 3: You guys are the only team in the league that's 899 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: wearing seven studs in the Earth and the two man you. 900 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to have told your field. 901 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: And has there a better better linebacker besides I Lacker 902 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to playing cover two? 903 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 6: No, he was, Oh my god, but yeah, there. 904 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 5: Brooks play will though. I mean the mic he's built 905 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 5: for that. It's as crazy as it was. But yeah, dude, 906 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 5: I'm running fast I can. He's run in the middle 907 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 5: and nobody getting over the top of Yeah. 908 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: He was tall, tall put that hand up, so you 909 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 3: really gotta like sink that thing in there. I think 910 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 3: one of the best stories that I remember, though, is 911 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 3: we played y'all. I want to say it might have 912 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: been two thousand and eight and I was covering. I 913 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: was covering Deshan the whole game. 914 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 6: I was. 915 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: I was shadowing him and I got one force fumble. 916 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 2: You know, nothing too crazy whatever. 917 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: Nothing too crazy that force fumble, just one. Yeah, that 918 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: peanut punch. He got the whole terminut of there. Randy 919 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: Moss got most got to pe that. 920 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 3: Punch, so I ended up I ended up getting one, 921 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 3: and I was trying to show I was trying to 922 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: show Thomas this, but I'll end up finding later on. 923 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: But Deshaun is running like an over route and. 924 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: He catches it. Takes a couple of steps. I punched 925 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 3: it out and my second one. But it's on your sideline. 926 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 3: You looked so mad. You picked up the ball like. 927 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: You picked up the ball and you put it on 928 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: your hipp It was. 929 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: Just like, because we talk about this all damn day. 930 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: We talk about it all day. 931 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 3: Your body lady was just like, God, dang it if 932 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 3: this But the way he picked up though, I couldn't 933 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: do nothing but laugh, like it. 934 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: Was just you just you had it like this and 935 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: just was like, Jason, I've been there. 936 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 5: I remember all week long, Sean Paygon's like look playing 937 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 5: against the Bears, just got peanut freaking Tell me, I 938 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 5: don't want to see a ball on the ground this week. 939 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 2: Just let me call it. I don't want know yet. 940 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: Catch the ball. 941 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 4: Get down. 942 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 5: He's out there lurking. He's that fish out there, he's lurking. 943 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 2: Do not. 944 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 4: I don't want to see it ball. 945 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 5: I don't want to see it second possession sums out 946 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 5: because everybody gets excited off of it too. 947 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 4: It's like they next, you know, and it. 948 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: Was like a dunk. 949 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 2: Who everybody, Now everybody's up. 950 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 4: Here we go again. 951 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 5: Now we in a dogfight because nobody we just didn't 952 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 5: get down, just trying to get just a little bit extra. 953 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 2: The next you know, ball on the ground, Like, nah, 954 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: I think he ain't gonna get it out on me. 955 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 2: Like I'm pretty sure, maybe I don't know. 956 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like even though we all talked about it 957 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 3: the whole week, there had to be some competitive spirit. 958 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: Was like, nah, he ain't getting it out on everybody. 959 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: Some you know, some guys are just a loof at times, 960 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: like they just just go like and then the whole 961 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: like everybody else is paying just like like oh yeah, 962 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: we can't. Let you know, peanut, get the ball out. 963 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: Another dude's on the cell phone in the back. 964 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 4: You know. 965 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's like that NFL. Right, It's like you 966 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: have you have the guys that care. 967 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 6: You got the guys and be like man. 968 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 5: So true, job so true, so so so true, damn true. 969 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 5: All right, let's get you some fun questions here, Like 970 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 5: this hasn't already been fun enough. You're a basketball player. 971 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 5: That was your first love, that's where your heart was at. 972 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 5: I looked up the whole story on your YouTube and 973 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 5: Coach Simpson was talking about that too, and you mentioned already. 974 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 5: He's like, dude, you ain't playing on my basketball team. 975 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 5: Lets play football. Yeah, so he kind of pushed you 976 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 5: over that way, and then you found you had a 977 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 5: really great talent at it. But and this is straight 978 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 5: Barbara barbershop question right here. Okay, give me your top 979 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 5: five basketball players of all time? 980 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: This is this is straight barbershop right here? 981 00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 6: All right? 982 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 1: Am I doing it in position groups? Is it a 983 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: starting five or is just your is starting? 984 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 2: Give me a starting five? Yeah, give me a starting five. 985 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's that's that's the ease. That's the 986 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: easier one. All right, So starting five magic. 987 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: Okay, magine at the point, yeah, I'm mad at that. 988 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: At the two Jordan's, at the three, Lebron, at the four, 989 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan, and at the five Elijah. 990 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, so can we can how 991 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 2: about with this? 992 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 5: How about like once one name is picked, we get 993 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 5: to like take them off the board. 994 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 4: All right? 995 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 3: I love this all right, Peter, I'm not gonna give 996 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 3: him one two thing for five. So I gotta write 997 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 3: mind down because I got Kobe. I got uh. 998 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 2: You said you you said the cheam right? 999 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I said dream. I said dream. I 1000 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 1: said God damn. 1001 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to all right, So oh I got a 1002 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 3: magic not magic doctor J. 1003 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that pick I got. I got, 1004 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 2: I got doctor J. 1005 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 4: I got uh. 1006 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 2: Oh, give me shack Kobe, shack Yo. I'm gonna take uh. 1007 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 6: You got a lot of power. Forwards. 1008 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take steph okay, and then I'm also gonna take. 1009 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: Who was a dog? I need another guard. I need 1010 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 2: like a dog, who was a dog at that guard? 1011 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 2: Go let me, let me give me, give me another 1012 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: thirty seconds. I'mnna let you go. 1013 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 6: All right. 1014 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 5: So so all right, I'm gonna go with my team. 1015 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 5: And I know nobody's gonna love this, but I'm gonna 1016 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 5: go Dame at the one because I need big points 1017 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 5: in last second situations. I know Dame is clutch. I'm 1018 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 5: gonna go Klay Thompson for his ability to be able 1019 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 5: to shoot and play defense at the two, and he's 1020 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 5: got his hype at the three you already got doctor j. 1021 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 5: You already took Lebron all right after three? Let me 1022 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 5: come back. You know what, I take Larry Bird tripping. 1023 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Larry Bird and at the four spot, 1024 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 5: i'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go with Dirk Nowitzky 1025 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 5: at the four and then I'm gonna take Wilt at 1026 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 5: the five. Oh no, I'm taking Kareem at the five. 1027 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 5: How dare I give me Kareem? Even though Wil's great too, 1028 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 5: because Wil ran like a four yard sprinter. 1029 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 6: So Larry you got some shooting. 1030 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, shoot, I. 1031 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 5: Might need to get Wilt at the five. Just were better, 1032 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 5: so I can have somebody to defend the rim. But 1033 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 5: because I don't know if a Kem was known for that, 1034 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 5: I mean, not a king, but Kareem was. 1035 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take Kareem, though, I'm gonna go Oscar Robinson. 1036 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 4: That's a good one. 1037 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: I think I think I'm killing you. 1038 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 5: Straight barbershop compensation, straight barbershop? 1039 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 4: Who you five? Who are five? This is exactly why the. 1040 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: Only thing, if it all depends on the air, like 1041 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: completely point shooting on yours is crazy. 1042 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I got I got three four gotten fill it up. 1043 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, I got one for you, scrabble 1044 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 3: big guy, you big scrabble guy. Right, used to be 1045 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 3: all right, what's the most points you got on one word? 1046 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 6: I've been over one hundred in one word? 1047 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: What word wasn't What was the word like super calif. 1048 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: No, no, it may have been. 1049 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 2: Was it pensive or something? 1050 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 6: No? 1051 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: No, what does that even mean? Pensive? 1052 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: I think I got, like you got to get you 1053 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: have so so it happened to somebody in order to 1054 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: get one hundred on one word, you gotta get like 1055 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: somebody that makes a mistake, like usually an inexperienced player. 1056 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 2: Roman is your guy. He gets you can get him 1057 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: all they leave. 1058 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: Like a word right before triple, but you can get 1059 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: to the next triple. Yeah, seven letters, right, So I 1060 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: remember getting triples in two spots, right, So it was 1061 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: some some word and then my word was something like 1062 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: soapier and I ended up getting into the next triple. 1063 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: So you get all of those, you get you get 1064 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: two triples. Yeah, so that's that ended up like that. 1065 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: So it was just spacing and somebody being bad. 1066 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk about pensive after. 1067 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, don't be embarrassed, but you got it. I 1068 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 5: got a great Yeah, but remember describe, don't come. 1069 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: Out like I forgot you. I forgot you from. 1070 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Scrabble Dictionary has a bunch of words that 1071 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: are not just English words, right, so there's a lot 1072 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: like if you know all the two letter words that 1073 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: are in the Scrabble Dictionary that are not English words, 1074 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: you got a good chance like knowing all I need. 1075 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 4: The Scrabble Dictionary. I'm sorry on a regular dictionary with you. 1076 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: If you don't have a scrap dictionary, you gotta have 1077 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: scrap dictionary. 1078 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 6: My blow. 1079 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 2: I didn't even know if they had their own dictionary. 1080 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't play scrab with us. 1081 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: I was just like a Webster's You gotta know all 1082 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: the words that starts with Q that don't have a U. 1083 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 4: Are you a big Are you a big reader? Naturally? Yeah? 1084 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: Like I I'm more of a brain game time a 1085 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: guy like I use you like this this app called Elevate, 1086 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: and that Julie involves reading and math and stuff like that. 1087 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 1: And then and then I don't read the entire book, 1088 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 1: but I have a different app called the blink List, 1089 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: and you can read like fifteen minute, twenty minute excerpts 1090 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: of any book, and it basically is a summary of 1091 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: the entire book. 1092 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: And I do that U stay see elevate blinkless. I 1093 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: put that onto job. Yeah, you're really. 1094 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 4: Into this stuff like that. 1095 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a reader books. I'm trying to help them. 1096 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 6: You are. 1097 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what I mean. I treat reading 1098 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: like my swimming ability. You know what I'm saying. I survived, 1099 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I ain't drowning, you know, 1100 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 2: but I. 1101 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 5: Ain't getting Yeah, I'm good. 1102 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1103 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: They mess up my hair. 1104 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:50,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, messing up my hair well, Jason Brod. Yeah. 1105 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 4: So we like to. 1106 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 5: Ask most of our guests if not all of this 1107 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 5: and and you know, I want to tell you and 1108 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 5: I'll just be one hundred with you said this. Peanuts 1109 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 5: said this to your boy Nam the awesome why And 1110 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 5: now he's like, well, you know, he tries. 1111 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: To be a little bit different than most. 1112 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 5: And he's like, WHOA, I don't I don't want this 1113 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 5: the same question as everybody else that's not. 1114 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 2: And then he's like, okay, okay, let me think on it. 1115 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 2: And he asked him if. 1116 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 5: You had a mount rushmore of people of influence, who 1117 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 5: would those four people be influence? 1118 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 6: In my life. 1119 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, for you, Okay, for personal, oh personal. 1120 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: My grandmother's number one. She's like in the middle, right 1121 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: there in the middle. I would say my college pastor, 1122 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 1: Pastor Cannon. 1123 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: He would be there just because he was there for 1124 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: you when you convery. 1125 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: It taught me so much and he always it wasn't 1126 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: about sports or anything like that. I was a freshman 1127 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: going going to his church and he would literally he 1128 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: would be on the phone with me going over stuff. 1129 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, she got a big booty. What do 1130 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 6: you want me to do with this? He like, dude, don't 1131 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 6: go after the temptations. Yeah. 1132 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: He was real, keeping it real with me, like all 1133 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: of us go, all of us go through this, you 1134 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like whatever it may be like. 1135 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: So he was there with me through some like really 1136 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: really rough times. So it would be him, I would say. 1137 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: A guy that ended up being my brother. I get 1138 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: five in my past, right, So he ended up being 1139 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: my brother, not like actual brother, end up being like 1140 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: a really close friend of mine, guy named Scooter. And 1141 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 1: he's been solid for me, never asked me for anything. 1142 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: We've been knowing each other for you know, twenty five years, 1143 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, what I mean. So never asked me for anything, 1144 00:50:54,040 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: always been there through difficult times. Some guy named Jamar 1145 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 1: Jamar Adams, he played in the league for a little bit, 1146 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: went to the University of Michigan with me. His mom 1147 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: told me to look after him when when he came 1148 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: up for a visit in the Never Road contact. So, 1149 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: I says four, and then the fifth one will be 1150 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison, because Rodney being from he was south. He 1151 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: was a South suburb guy. And Scooter and Rodney were friends. 1152 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: And he brought me around Rodney when I was a 1153 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 1: junior in high school, and I saw how. 1154 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 6: NFL athlete worked. 1155 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so and and he allowed me to work with him, 1156 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: allowed me to, you know, just pick his brain about stuff. 1157 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: And I that dude is like unbelievably strong, like you know, 1158 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: and and and and crazy nut like he would wake 1159 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: me up at at three o'clock in the morning. Hey, 1160 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: little guy, I just did two or to push up 1161 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 1: two or to sit up. 1162 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 6: You're a loser. I'm gonna winner by. 1163 00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 2: That's just how he was. Not all No, that was 1164 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: just a regular thing for him. 1165 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: His thing was always I'm an eagle, your pigeon, shut up. 1166 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 1: That was his thing and our trainer. 1167 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 6: You know. 1168 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: He was like all of us act act like our trainer, 1169 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: and so yeah, I would say those five people, Yeah. 1170 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 4: I love that. 1171 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 6: I love that. 1172 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 5: It was really funny because we asked that to everybody, 1173 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 5: but Nandy want to be different, and Peanut dressed it 1174 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 5: up and asked him the same question he had and 1175 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 5: then we told. 1176 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 6: Him at the end. He was like it was good. 1177 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: It was good food. 1178 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 3: Everybody he did was going, what is Peanut gonna do? 1179 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 3: And I was just like, well, I got it, Mount Rushmore. 1180 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 3: And then once I said that, I know, they were 1181 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 3: just like, oh got it. 1182 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: He got it. 1183 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,880 Speaker 4: Then I came back, dude, that's deep. I like that. 1184 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 2: And he played like, man, that's a really good question, Peanut, 1185 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 2: and I was like. 1186 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 4: Dan, Man, I appreciate that. 1187 00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, hilarious. 1188 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: I remember when when Naney was with the Eagles would 1189 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: be he that's when he started dating Kerry Washington. I 1190 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: was and I was his roommate on the road games. 1191 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: I was the only one that knew. And I was like, man, 1192 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: I want to say something, but I couldn't say that. Well, 1193 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: you just did the day been a long time, nobody stupid. 1194 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 6: Back then, it was nothing. 1195 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, we appreciate you coming on the show. Man, 1196 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 1197 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate yeah, I appreciate you guys, appreciate your guys. 1198 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Man, I'm more full because you pour it 1199 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 5: into us today. 1200 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 4: Man, So thank you. 1201 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 2: Man, I was really looking forward to seeing you giving 1202 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 2: you a hugging. You didn't. You didn't disappoint brought the 1203 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 2: brown jacket. 1204 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 4: You can clean your beards. 1205 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 6: You know I'm here with these two gentlemen. Now come on. 1206 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: You know you guys dressed to the nines all the time. 1207 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 4: Man, we try to Man, that's been getting better. 1208 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 3: Your shirt ugly, but my face isn't soot out of 1209 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 3: here on that one. 1210 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 4: Man. 1211 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 5: I want to make sure I thank all of our 1212 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 5: listeners and viewers because now they can see all. 1213 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 4: Of our beautiful faces. 1214 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 5: Man, wherever you get your podcast, where it's Apple Podcast, 1215 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 5: I Heearten, thank you so much. As always, make sure 1216 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 5: you give us a five star review. Quick follow. Tell 1217 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 5: a friend to tell a friend to what peanut. 1218 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 2: Tell a friend? We go, Man, We're gonna get you 1219 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 2: up out of here. 1220 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 4: Man. 1221 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 5: Hey, iHeartRadio Studios. Thank you as always up here in 1222 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 5: New York taking care of us, putting. 1223 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 4: It down for us. Peanut, get us out of here. 1224 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:16,959 Speaker 6: Boss. 1225 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 2: I'm Peanut. 1226 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 6: That's wrong. 1227 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,399 Speaker 3: That's Jason And this is the NFL Player Second Act 1228 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 3: podcast on we Out