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Speaker 1: this is a big year for trades, right and Jeff.

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Speaker 2: The game changer is the trade deadline. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: A bad trade, I've seen it, Jeff can set back

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean they got McKenzie Gore in that trade,

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Speaker 1: And that's our Game Changer of the week, and we're

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Speaker 2: Dad Quirk gins for this week all right, as always, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: It is pretty cool? And I mean talk about streaky.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's how the game is played today, Jeff. If

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Speaker 2: perfect example. Right. Also, JD. Martinez of the Mets hit

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, Xavier Edwards of the Marlins hit for the cycle.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you got it, Jeff, I'm really proud of you.

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Speaker 1: So respectfully, it kind of takes away from your first

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Speaker 1: talking about the Texas Rangers. Now, for Ranger fans who

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Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, right, but whoever rewinds Chris Young just

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Speaker 2: the Rangers first, this needs to be said, Jeff. The

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Speaker 2: an absolutely fabulous job. And as you remember, Jeff, I

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Speaker 2: The point is is Tom started having their pitchers to

435
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Speaker 2: throw footballs in the outfield before games to strengthen their arms.

436
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Speaker 2: Now a bunch of teams throw footballs in the outfield

437
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Speaker 2: before games to strengthen their arms. So I asked Charlie once.

438
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Speaker 2: I said, Charlie, just just throw in the football. Is

439
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Speaker 2: it helping the team at all? And he goes, I

440
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: don't know, but we lead the league in third down conversions.

441
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Speaker 2: Of course, in a football state like Texas, it was

442
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Speaker 2: great also, Jeff, while I covered the Rangers the second

443
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Speaker 2: time living in Texas, George W. Bush was basically one

444
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Speaker 2: of the owners of the team, and I saw him

445
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: at the ballpark all the time. And I hesitate to

446
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Speaker 2: tell this story, but because I got to know him

447
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 2: really well, Your mom and I got invited to the

448
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Speaker 2: White House three times for functions, two luncheons, and one

449
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: like intimate dinner with eighteen people. It's one of the greatest.

450
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Speaker 2: All three of those were three of the greatest knights

451
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Speaker 2: of my life and Mom's life. So after the second one,

452
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Speaker 2: and I gotta be careful with this. Laura Bush, the

453
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Speaker 2: first lady, the greatest hostess I've ever seen. She treated

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Speaker 2: us all like gold. There we're leaving after the second night,

455
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Speaker 2: and Missus Bush, who I love, sees me at the

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Speaker 2: elevator because we're leaving the White House, and she says,

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Speaker 2: it's so good to see you again, Tony. That's what

458
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Speaker 2: she said. So the President of the United States admonishes

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Speaker 2: his wife and says, it's Tim. It's not Tony. His

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Speaker 2: name is Tim. And I feel like saying, I don't

461
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Speaker 2: care what you call me. Just invite me back to

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Speaker 2: the White House, right again.

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Speaker 1: You can call me whatever you are want.

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Speaker 2: First invite me back. It's so good to see you again, Tony.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we move on now, Dad, So every

466
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Speaker 1: week we do a best of all Tim and this

467
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Speaker 1: is where Dad puts together and we respectfully. Last week

468
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Speaker 1: we had the all Hall of Fame team, which was great, right,

469
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Speaker 1: And it was your opinion, right, because everybody has their

470
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Speaker 1: opinion as they should, of the best players. But I

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Speaker 1: love the best of all teams that are goofy. And

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Speaker 1: maybe the team's not any good, it doesn't matter because

473
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Speaker 1: there's an All Eclipse team out there, or there's the

474
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Speaker 1: all courtroom team. Right, these goofy names, and you didn't

475
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Speaker 1: tell me what we're gonna do this week, but you

476
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Speaker 1: said you're back to kind of a goofy name, right,

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Speaker 1: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: All right? Well, I'm gonna give you the jump off

479
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Speaker 2: point here. River Ryan has made two major league starts

480
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Speaker 2: now for the Dodgers, and he pitched on Sunday and

481
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 2: he pitched pretty well, River Ryan.

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Speaker 1: So what is with the amount you emphasized the first

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, At first, I was thinking maybe it's

484
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Speaker 1: players with first names as last names.

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Speaker 2: Right, good which call?

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Speaker 1: Maybe we could do a different one, But you gotta

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Speaker 1: do some sort of water bodies.

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Speaker 2: Of water water, Jeff, you I have rubbed off unfortunately,

489
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: way too much on you. Okay, too much time on mine.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Our our catcher, I love our catcher. Steve Lake caught

492
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Speaker 2: first several years, caught almost five hundred games in the

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Speaker 2: big leagues. Brooke Jacoby is our first baseman. Fred Marsh

494
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: is our second basement. Now you would like me have

495
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Speaker 2: used Brandon Marsh, who plays for your favorite team, the Phillies,

496
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: But I needed a second basement, and Fred Marsh was

497
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Speaker 2: the second baseman. Hod Ford is the stop now, Jeff,

498
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Speaker 2: do you even know what a ford is? It technically

499
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: is a body of water, I think, but it's a

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00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: very low amount of water that you can drive your

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Speaker 2: car through. Have you ever heard of a ford?

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Speaker 3: No?

503
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Speaker 1: I so you can drive your forward through a ford?

504
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

505
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: Is a shallow place with good footing where a river

506
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Speaker 1: stream can be passing inside a vehicle. Get the wheelsp okay,

507
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: I see a picture of it. I know exactly what

508
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Speaker 1: it is.

509
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: Now, all right, so does it count? Believe me? I

510
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: need a shortstop now. Brooks Robinson is the third basement.

511
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Speaker 2: Different than brook Jacoby. Remember there are no repeats when

512
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Speaker 2: you do team Tim. You can't use the same name

513
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: six times. Use Brandon Marsh now, right of course? So

514
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Jason Bay is one of our outfielders. My Mickey Rivers

515
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Speaker 2: who I covered with the Rangers, Remember, Jeff, he's the

516
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: guy my first year on the beat, asked me once?

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Speaker 2: He said, Tim, can I borrow two thousand dollars? I said, Mickey,

518
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: I make the thirteen thousand dollars a year. I can't

519
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: loan you two thousand. He was making four hundred and

520
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars, and he asked the Little Dickey sports

521
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: writer if he could borrow two thousand dollars. They said,

522
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Speaker 2: I don't have two thousand in my name. So Mickey's

523
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: at one of our outfielders, Simon Pond, who you remember

524
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: from Blue Jay Days, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right,

525
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 2: And Dave Motes is gonna be our dhm ates, and

526
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: then of course River Ryan since he's our jump off point.

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Speaker 2: Here he's one picture, Bobby c s ea Y, Jeffrey Springs,

528
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: Ernie Shore and this is so sad, jeff and I

529
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: mean it, this is so sad. I came up with

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Speaker 2: this yesterday on Sunday, and our last picture, Doug Creek

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Speaker 2: died on Monday. He died yesterday and he's on our

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00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: all River team. So I came up with it on

533
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Speaker 2: a Sunday. Doug Creek's on the team and he died

534
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Speaker 2: on Monday. Rest in peace, Doug Creek.

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Speaker 1: That's our best of all. Tim Now, Dad, you are

536
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: up in Bristol because it's the trade deadline, so we

537
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: couldn't do this show together. But I actually have a

538
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: surprise that I wanted to give you in person, but

539
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to do it over the virtual studio.

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00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: Is that okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Is Emily pregnant again? No?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Good lord, No, that would have been a surprise.

544
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: Go That would have been a big surprise for me too.

545
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: All right, So do you see what I can't block

546
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: my mic? Do you see what this says? Say it

547
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: out loud? Stratamatic Black. Stratamatic for this year's Hall of

548
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Fame cards did a black card edition, so it's like

549
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: a collector's item. So for their twenty twenty four Hall

550
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Speaker 1: of Fame pack, I purchased all of the Hall of

551
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Speaker 1: Famers but in these really cool black cards.

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Speaker 5: That is so great.

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00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: I have all of the Hall of Famers the twenty

554
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Speaker 1: twenty four pack in my possession for Stratamatic Black Now,

555
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: I bought it as a complete and total nerd right

556
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: because we love it. And when you come back on

557
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: our recording day, Dad, we're we're gonna put two teams

558
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: together and we're gonna play like we did growing up,

559
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: because this was my favorite thing to play with you

560
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: right in the world.

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Speaker 2: But Jeff, we're not the only Stratamatic nerds. I told

562
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: you the story that Keith Hernandez, the greatest defensive first

563
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: baseman of all time, told me once that he loved

564
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: playing Stratamatic as a teenager. So he gets drafted to

565
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: play pro ball and he packs his Strata Maatic to

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Speaker 2: take with him to go play pro ball, and Keith

567
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Nander's's dad goes, Keith, you can't take that game with you.

568
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: You're a professional baseball player. And Keith said, but Dad,

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Speaker 2: I'm halfway through the nineteen seventy season. That's how much

570
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Speaker 2: people love that game.

571
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Speaker 1: And former guests of the show, Doug Glanville is a

572
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: huge Stratamatic fan. Did you know that?

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Speaker 2: I did not know that he.

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Speaker 1: Is in the Hall of Fame for Stratamatic. They have

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Speaker 1: their own Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: By the way, really, I have one hundred Stratamatic stories.

577
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: We'll tell one per podcast.

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00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna have time to do that because if

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00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: you go to strat Dash Oh Dash Mattic, you can

580
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: check out well actually they're sold out now on the

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00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: Black Hall of Fame edition cards. But anyway, we are

582
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Speaker 1: pairing up with them to do some of their simulations

583
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: because they are the market leader in sports simulations. So

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Speaker 1: they have the game, right, but they use all that

585
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: data they used to make the cards to do simulations.

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00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: So we asked them to come up with a simulation

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Speaker 1: for the trade that never happened. In spirit of the

588
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Speaker 1: trade deadline, Ted Williams traded for Joe DiMaggio. Now, it

589
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Speaker 1: never happened. It's a bit of an urban myth, right, Dad,

590
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: But there's some truth that there was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a conversation had about.

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Speaker 2: This right April nineteen forty seven, the owner of the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox and the owner of so it was Tom

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00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: Yakey of the Red Sox and Dan Toppin of the Yankees.

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00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: They decided over drinks one night at Took Shore, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: it be cool if we got Joe DiMaggio to Fenway Park,

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00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: where he would have been an even better hitter, and

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Speaker 2: Ted Williams to Yankee Stadium, where he would have been

599
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Speaker 2: an even better hitter. What if we traded those two?

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Speaker 2: And they actually discussed, and then they went to bed

601
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Speaker 2: at night and said, all right, we'll wake up in

602
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: the morning and take a look at this thing. Well,

603
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: Dan topp and the owner of the Yankees basically said

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Speaker 2: all right, we're not going to do this, especially after

605
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Tom Yawkey said and I'm gonna need you to throw

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Speaker 2: in that little left fielder that you have in the

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00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: minor leagues. And that little left fielder was Yogi Barra,

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Speaker 2: who went on to win three MVPs and ten rings.

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00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: So was it discussed, absolutely, Was it really close to happening.

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00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure, but it is fascinating that, arguably

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00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: the two best players in the American League at the time,

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Speaker 2: there was a discussion whether they should be traded for

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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 1: And the simulation was run. And I'm actually going to

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Speaker 1: put up the graphics of what we're talking about on

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Speaker 1: YouTube and on our social media and at great gamer

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Speaker 1: what dot com so you can follow along a little

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Speaker 1: bit better when I go through these numbers. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: most obvious thing is they're saying, Okay, nineteen forty seven

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Speaker 1: is when the trade would have taken place. With Joe DiMaggio,

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox won two World Series, breaking the Curse

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Speaker 1: of the Bambiina right in forty eight and fifty.

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Speaker 2: Right in forty eight, they would have beaten the Braves.

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Speaker 2: In fifty they would have beaten the Phillies. Okay, now,

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Speaker 2: let's also make it clear that the Yankees with Ted

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Speaker 2: Williams still would have won the World Series in forty seven,

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Speaker 2: forty nine, fifty one, fifty three, fifty six, fifty seven,

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Speaker 2: and nineteen sixty Ted Williams' final season. What it was

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Speaker 2: also intriguing to me, Jeff, was how much better a

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Speaker 2: hitter would those guys have been? Where a right handed

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Speaker 2: hitter definitely benefits playing at Fenway Park and a left

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Speaker 2: handed hitter definitely benefits playing at Yankee Stadium. Well, according

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Speaker 2: to them, Joe DiMaggio's basic ops numbers were essentially the same,

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Speaker 2: but he would have hit eighteen more homers playing all

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Speaker 2: those years at Fenway, and Ted Williams would have hit

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Speaker 2: seventy more home runs having played at Yankee Stadium. So

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Speaker 2: I just love stuff like that, and I love the

638
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Speaker 2: math of it, and I love that they can run

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Speaker 2: a simulation like that this many years later, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's funny too, because they said for

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Speaker 1: Ted Williams, he hit slightly fewer doubles twenty less. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: some of those twenty doubles probably.

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Speaker 2: Were right, especially to right field, because Ted Williams once

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: famously told Tony Gwynn. History is made on the inside

645
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: part of the plate, and if anyone tried to sneak

646
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Speaker 2: a fastball by Ted Williams on the inside part of

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00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: the plate, that was a bad idea. He would pull

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Speaker 2: it to right field for another home run.

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Speaker 1: So I mean it could have changed dramatically the career

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Speaker 1: of both of these players, but also the trajectory. We

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Speaker 1: would have never had the craziness of two thousand and

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Speaker 1: four in the eighty six year Curse of the Bambino.

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Speaker 1: It would have been a lot different of a story.

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Speaker 1: So thank you to our friends at Stratamatic for running

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Speaker 1: that simulation. And I'm excited. If there's a simulation that

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Speaker 1: you want to hear, you can go to Great Game

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Speaker 1: or what dot com and let us know if there's

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Speaker 1: an urban myth or two teams you would love to

659
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Speaker 1: see a who was the best Yankee team of all time?

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Speaker 1: You know, we can run those simulations with our friends

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Speaker 1: at Stratamatic. Our Kirchin quandary today, though, is one that

662
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Speaker 1: has been highly debated amongst friends that my dad works with.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really excited for this one because Dad, I

664
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Speaker 1: think it's another one where you and I very much

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Speaker 1: disagree with.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, Jeff, we have to understand this is a fun, loving, joyful,

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Speaker 2: cheerful show. We don't want anyone to die and everything else.

668
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Speaker 2: But this this is our quandary for the week, and

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Speaker 2: we're using it because it's the trade deadline week. We

670
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Speaker 2: always try to have a theme for our quandaries, So

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Speaker 2: this theme is based on something that Gene Mauk once

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Speaker 2: told me that Jeff jeen Mauk was a major league player.

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Speaker 2: He was a limited major league player, but he played

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Speaker 2: multiple years as an infielder, and one day and it

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00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: was a great manager, one of the greatest baseball men

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Speaker 2: of all time. And maybe twenty five years ago, I

677
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: was thirty years ago. I was sitting him with him

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Speaker 2: on the bench at Kansas City one day, just the

679
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: two of us talking. The stuff I learned was fascinating,

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Speaker 2: and he looked at me and he said, I would

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Speaker 2: have given up t ten years of my life to

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Speaker 2: play one hundred games in Hank Aaron's body. Wow, that's

683
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: how much he loved the game, and that's how much

684
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: it meant to him to arguably be the best player

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00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: in the game, even for one hundred games. So this

686
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 2: is our kirchon quandary. It is aged jeb, it is hypothetical,

687
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: it is playful. We don't want anyone to get hurt here.

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00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: But would you trade during trade deadline week? Would you

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Speaker 2: trade ten years of your life to play an entire

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball season in Shohei Otani's body? So we're

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Speaker 2: talking about the twenty twenty five season. Next season when

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Speaker 2: he is going to be pitching and hitting, would you

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Speaker 2: give up ten years of your life two hit a

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Speaker 2: baseball four hundred and seventy five feet, if not farther,

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Speaker 2: to throw a baseball one hundred miles an hour, to

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Speaker 2: run like he does, and to arguably be well. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's arguable he's the most remarkable player in

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Speaker 2: Major League history. Would you give up ten years of

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Speaker 2: your life to play an entire season in Shoho Tani's body?

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Speaker 2: It's tough because I know it's called a quandary. Is

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Speaker 2: we have a big side.

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Speaker 1: I know we don't want to be dark, right, But

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Speaker 1: the reality is I am sacrificing ten years of living

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Speaker 1: for one year of living the best life ever?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: And I would say no? And maybe it's because I'm

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Speaker 1: a young dad maybecause I've got so many years ahead

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Speaker 1: of me in the thought of seeing my child and

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Speaker 1: one day children for ten less years would not fit

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Speaker 1: with me. And what would I do for one year?

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Speaker 1: It would be very self serving. It would just be

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Speaker 1: the crowd screaming at me and all this. Now, although wait,

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Speaker 1: hold on, am I getting paid like show Heyo Tani

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Speaker 1: Fitz one year?

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Speaker 2: First off, that's the second part of the question. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to in a minute, Jeff. People who love the game,

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Speaker 2: you know what they would love to do just once?

718
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Speaker 2: How many times you heard the average fan goes, I'd

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Speaker 2: love to just hit a home run over a fence

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Speaker 2: one day. I'd love to just throw a pitch and

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Speaker 2: strike three batters out in a row. It matters to

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Speaker 2: our best baseball fans. That's the trade off that you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get now. I wouldn't take it either. However, the

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Speaker 2: second part of the question is you're also going to

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Speaker 2: be making We'll make it thirty million dollars this year

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five as Sho Hayes contract. Now to me,

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Speaker 2: this lessons the question because now the question is no

728
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Speaker 2: longer about baseball greatness. It's about money. It's also about

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Speaker 2: setting up your family and your children's family and your

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Speaker 2: grandchildren's family for the rest of their lives. So yes, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: are you gonna take it if I give you shohes,

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Speaker 2: talent and everything that comes with it for one year

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Speaker 2: and you make thirty million dollars?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I'll tell you why because One, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Even in my Little League career, I never hit a

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Speaker 1: home run, but imagine doing it at Dodger Stadium going

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Speaker 1: a sold out crowd against the New York Yankees in

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Speaker 1: the World Series. Heck yeah. And Two, I think my

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Speaker 1: wife would kill me if I passed up that much

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Speaker 1: money simply because I wanted to be around longer. She

741
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Speaker 1: loves me. But like setting up the whole family for

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Speaker 1: generational wealth might be worth the ten years.

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Speaker 2: Call me shallow, Yeah, I'm sorry you are shallow, But

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Speaker 2: let me I mean, Jeff, let's be morbid about this

745
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Speaker 2: for one second, even though we're laughing. Let's say you're

746
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Speaker 2: only gonna live till sixty God for bid, please, but

747
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: now you only live till you're fifty. And then McKinley,

748
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: your beautiful daughter has a grandchild and you're not even

749
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Speaker 2: around to see it. You have to factor that in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I go back to I go

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Speaker 1: back to the initial. I don't want to do it.

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00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: I want to spend every year with my kids. And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take heat on social media for people saying, well, Jeff,

754
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: like money can't replace time with family, and that's absolutely true.

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00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: We've had loss in our family. Can we make it

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Speaker 1: like ten years in solitary confinement so at least I'm alive, no, Jeff, Okay,

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00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: all right, well then I'm not taking it. I'm going

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Speaker 1: with my gut from the beginning. I know I've flip

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Speaker 1: flopped twice now, but I'm not taking I'm not taking

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: It's quite a trade proposal, the biggest trade proposal ever

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Speaker 2: at the trade deadline. Ten years of your life for

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Speaker 2: one year in show Hay's body. Everyone who wants to

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Speaker 2: chime in on this, please, this is the most harmless

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Speaker 2: question ever.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it sounds like something like Ursula would offer a

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Speaker 1: cartoon character in Disney. Could you come up with this

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Speaker 1: great game? Or what dot com?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 1: To check out our kirschen quandry. I'll put a pole

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Speaker 1: up there on our social media as well. Our guest

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Speaker 1: today is Eddie Alvarez and uh, because we're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the Olympics, which is so exciting. He won

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Speaker 1: a medal for Team USA for baseball back in the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty Olympics. Annie medaled as a speed skater in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, which is just like so mind boggling to

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Speaker 1: think you could be so good at two completely different

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Speaker 1: sports that you medal in.

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Speaker 2: Both, right, And Eddie Alvarez grew up in Miami, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 2: So tell me how a guy who lives in Miami

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Speaker 2: becomes a champion speed skater and then switches careers. He

782
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Speaker 2: was always a baseball player and then played in the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty Olympics. So Eddie Alvarez is coming up next

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Speaker 2: and we can't wait to talk to him. He's playing

785
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: TRIPAA baseball for the Red Sox right now. He's tearing

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Speaker 2: it up. We'll probably see him in the big leagues

787
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Speaker 2: at the end of this year. But a great guest

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Speaker 2: on the way, welcome back to is this a great

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Speaker 2: game or what? And we are joined by our guest today,

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Speaker 2: Eddie Alvarez, who won an Olympic medal in speed skating

791
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Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen and an Olympic medal in baseball in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Eddie, it's Olympic week. Say hi to my

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Speaker 2: son Jeffrey. Here, jeff how.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing man?

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Speaker 2: Eddie?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. This is like I was

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Speaker 1: leaving the office right before interviewing you, and my boss,

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Speaker 1: who listens to the podcast, says, all right, who do

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Speaker 1: you got this week? And I said, we have a

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Speaker 1: two time Olympic medalist. He said who, And I said

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Speaker 1: it's Eddie Alvarez. He won for baseball and for speed skating,

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Speaker 1: and his jaw hit the floor, thinking, what kind of

803
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: athlete is this guy? Is there any correlation between these

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Speaker 1: two things? Eddie? It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I get asked that question more often than not, and

807
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 4: I really like, the only thing I could ever come

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Speaker 4: up with is the fact that we go left.

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Speaker 3: That's honestly the best I could come up with.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm a firm believer that everything that

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Speaker 4: I've experienced in the skating world has only propelled me

812
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 4: in my baseball career to get to where I got to.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I was a young, young lad young

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Speaker 4: man and during my skating days, and you know, just

815
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Speaker 4: to be able to have that little bit of a

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Speaker 4: cheat code in the sense of understanding what it takes

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00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 4: to get to the top again, you know, only kind

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Speaker 4: of boosted everything that I've experienced in baseball.

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Speaker 2: All right, So, Eddie, I can't roller skate. I tried

820
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: that once. It was a disaster. Ice skating I tried

821
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Speaker 2: it once, an equal disaster. And Jeff's as bad as

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Speaker 2: I am. Can you help us? Could you teach us?

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Speaker 2: Could you teach us, sixty seven year old man how

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Speaker 2: to skate?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's never too old to teach a bulldog new trick, right,

826
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Speaker 4: You're never too old.

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Speaker 3: We can figure something out. It might take a couple lessons.

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Speaker 4: It is a very difficult sport, no matter how you

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Speaker 4: look at it, from all aspects, any any type of

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Speaker 4: skating sport. You know, you see all the X Games

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Speaker 4: everything they're coming out with the red bull, ice skating,

832
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: downhill stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's a unique sport to fall into.

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Speaker 4: I just so happened to grow up in the right

835
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Speaker 4: air of Miami, Florida, which was the nineties, and you know,

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Speaker 4: roller blading was the thing to do back in the day.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I got scouted out and.

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Speaker 4: Olympic medal later just stuck with it.

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Speaker 2: But Eddie from roller blading to ice skating in Miami,

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Speaker 2: How did that happen? How did that transition happen?

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Speaker 4: It's it So roller blading has its own discipline, worldwide,

842
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: own sport, which is inline speed skating. So growing up

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Speaker 4: in Miami, I did a lot of rollerblading. I had

844
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Speaker 4: a pair of skates for Christmas one year, and you know,

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Speaker 4: my parents were very diligent about taking me to South

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Speaker 4: Beach every weekend.

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Speaker 3: It was what I looked forward.

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Speaker 4: To as a kid, just a cruise around the streets

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Speaker 4: and and you know, kind of do the aggressive skating

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Speaker 4: of inline skating.

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Speaker 3: And there was just some recreational skater speed skaters that

852
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: found me.

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Speaker 4: Cruising around one of the sidewalks there, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I had a conversation with my parents on how I

855
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Speaker 4: should try this sport of speed skating. Obviously, being from Miami, Florida,

856
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: we've never heard of it. So I joined an inline

857
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: speed skating team. It just so happened to be in

858
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Speaker 4: contact with the same coach. That coach, Jennifer Rodriguez, who

859
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Speaker 4: was the first Cuban American female inline speed scare trans

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Speaker 4: positioned over to the ice Olympic medalists, and I just

861
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Speaker 4: followed in those footsteps, and you know, became national champion

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Speaker 4: at a very early age in all three disciplines to

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Speaker 4: speed skating, inline, long track, and short track. Knew that

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Speaker 4: that was something that I can make something of. And

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00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: then after high school, got invited to train with the

866
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: US national team on Salt Lake City, Utah, and moved

867
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: out there and you know, just trained my butt away

868
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: and you know, made the Olympic team.

869
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: So, Eddie, is it true that you left baseball your

870
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: senior year of high school to be prepared for the

871
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: next step in skating.

872
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 4: Yes. So I actually had a full ride scholarship to

873
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 4: go to a nai A school that my brother had

874
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: gone to to play ball, and it was it was

875
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 4: Saint Thomas University out close to Miami. Actually very close

876
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: relationship with the coach back in the day. His name

877
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 4: was Manny Mantrana, May you rest in peace, passed away

878
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: a few years ago, and he knew what my world

879
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: was about. You know, he knew that I wanted to skate.

880
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 4: He knew that I wanted to play baseball, and that

881
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: was like the only attention from a school that was

882
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 4: going to permit me to do both. But I knew

883
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: that after high school, if I wanted to make this

884
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 4: Olympic run a serious one, that I had.

885
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: To commit my entire time to it.

886
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: So after high school I went into his office, and

887
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 4: you know, he was more than willing to accept my decision,

888
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 4: and you know said that whenever I wanted to come back,

889
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: you know, my scholarship be waiting for me.

890
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: All right, So, Eddie, let's say we take the average

891
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: Major League baseball player who maybe knows how to skate

892
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: a little bit, and he races you in the five

893
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: hundred meters do you do you lap him once? Do

894
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: you lap him twice?

895
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 5: How?

896
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: How could he fare against you? In your prime?

897
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: I've run into my fair share of hockey players that

898
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: turned baseball players that have always challenged me to race, uh,

899
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: you know, and I and I entertained the idea a

900
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: little bit, but you know the truth is they have

901
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: absolutely zero chances. But no, it's but it's fun, you know,

902
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 4: it's it's such a cool and I we were actually

903
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: having this argument in the clubhouse.

904
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: Last week. You know, what's the most athletic sport out there?

905
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: And you know, to me, I think baseball is at

906
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 4: least the most coordinated sport. You know, you give a

907
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: baseball player any any any instrument of sport, you know,

908
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: whether it be a football, basketball, a hockey stick, you know,

909
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 4: kind of hold our own. There's just some incredible athletes

910
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 4: in baseball, so I would have doubt that they would

911
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 4: give me a little run.

912
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: For the money, right Did any of your teammates, Jad

913
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Chisholm or anybody else say, tell me about what it's

914
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: like to be a speed skater? Did you have to

915
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: educate them about how much of a skill that is?

916
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: Tim? I educate everyone every year every year. You know.

917
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 4: It's cool, and it comes with the territory of having

918
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 4: such a unique story and you know, and that I'm

919
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 4: very proud of, and the fact that I've gotten.

920
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 3: To experience things that these athletes you know, haven't.

921
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: You know, it gives me the platform to be able

922
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: to teach them and share my knowledge with them. It's

923
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: very you know, the Olympic movement, the Olympic spirit is

924
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: something that is incredible in my eyes.

925
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: I think it's it's unfortunate.

926
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: That a lot of these Olympic athletes don't get the

927
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: recognition that they deserve because of the amount of dedication

928
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 4: and uniqueness that goes into their discipline. So it's so

929
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: cool to be able to share what my experience was

930
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 4: like in Olympic village, to be able to share what

931
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: it was like to hang out with fencers and all

932
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: sorts of different types of sports out there. I'm just

933
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 4: I'm one of the lucky ones that I've gotten to

934
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: experience it. And you know, whenever I get a chance

935
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: to speak about it, especially times like these, they now

936
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: I have Olympics on right now on my TV. It's

937
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 4: been NonStop in our clubhouse, and I get all the

938
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 4: questions and I'm just more than happy.

939
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: To share what I think I know.

940
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: Eddie, I want you to allow yourself to be selfish

941
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: for a second. You were the flag bearer back in

942
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Olympics with Sue Bird. How cool was

943
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: that to not only be representing your country in competing

944
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: in the games for the USA baseball team, but also

945
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: then to be kind of heading up the opening ceremonies

946
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: along with suberb.

947
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: It is.

948
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 4: The highlight of my career. And I say this without hesitation.

949
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: It was something that was much that runs much deeper

950
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: than just being bestowed that honor. You know, I come

951
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 4: from a family of immigrants. I like to consider myself,

952
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: you know, the prime example of what the American dream is,

953
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: and that's what my family did. They they they're the

954
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 4: generation before me, are the ones that sacrificed everything, and

955
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 4: I just, you know, took advantage of their sacrifices. So

956
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: the fact that I've was elected by my team USA

957
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: Peers to be the flag Bear, it shows that, you know,

958
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: my journey and everything that I've had to go through

959
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: was worth it. And to share something like that with

960
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: a legend Sue Bird herself, you know, it's it's it's

961
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 4: pretty crazy.

962
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: I wish Sports Center and.

963
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: ESPN would have acknowledged me on an Instagram post a

964
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 4: couple of days ago.

965
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: They left me out bear I was a flag bear.

966
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: But you know it's okay.

967
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 4: I know that I have moved a lot of people,

968
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: especially in my in my background, my culture being Cuban,

969
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: and to waive that American flag, knowing the the.

970
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: The opportunities that it has presented.

971
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 4: To my family and the life changing experiences that has

972
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: presented to myself, and now to be able to carry

973
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: that with me it's unbelievable. It's it hasn't quite hit

974
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 4: me yet. I'm still in the fire, but I know

975
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: one day I can't I can't wait to be able

976
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 4: to share this with my kids and and you know,

977
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: eventually grandkids.

978
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's pretty ridiculous because I feel like

979
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: ESPN and Sports Center always talking about this year's flag bear,

980
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 1: Lebron James, whoever that guy is, who I think, Yeah,

981
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm never not sure, not sure. Came out of kind

982
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: of nowhere there. So we need more for Eddie Alvarez,

983
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: that's for sure. But how incredible. And I saw you

984
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: getting emotional and choking up, and I think it's incredible

985
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: to represent our country and our family and just thank

986
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: you for thank you for representing our country in the

987
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: way you have because you're right. This country is a

988
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: country of immigrants. Whether you're first generation or a tenth generation,

989
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. That's how the country started. Sorry, Dad,

990
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: I know I had to go down that little rabbit hole.

991
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate that.

992
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: Thank you.

993
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 2: All. Right, back to supe Bird for a minute, Eddie. Look,

994
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm five four and a half. Jeffreys five to six.

995
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 2: Is supe Bird taller than you you stood right next

996
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: to her.

997
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 4: No, I stared at right in the eyes. I looked

998
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 4: at her right in the eyes, and we are the

999
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 4: same height. And we sat next to each other on

1000
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: the bus while Kevin Durant had.

1001
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 3: To use a whole row behind me. But she's an

1002
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: incredible human being. She was, I mean, just just to

1003
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: be able.

1004
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: I mean because because the Olympic ceremonies, the opening ceremonies

1005
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: is long, like it's a taxing event for these athletes.

1006
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 4: So we're together for hours on end, walking here, walking there,

1007
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 4: bus ride here, bus ride there, So me and Sue

1008
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: had to be next to each other. I felt so

1009
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 4: bad for her she had to do with me, But

1010
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 4: it was incredible. I got to learn more about her

1011
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: life and and everything about her.

1012
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: And it's incredible that.

1013
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 4: Someone's so decorated as she is, as humble as she

1014
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 4: is as well. It's it's so cool to watch. It's

1015
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: motivating to me and to be to be a better person.

1016
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: And and you know, take that extra time, whether it

1017
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 4: be a fan of kid. You know, I'm in the

1018
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: minor leagues right now. You know everyone is important, right

1019
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 4: and he getting.

1020
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: Back to speed skating for a moment, Let's say we

1021
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: take your average speed skater who hasn't played much baseball

1022
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: in his life, and we put him into a major

1023
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: league game. How does that go?

1024
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: Uh, it's it's probably gonna go a lot like what

1025
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: last week went for me, like some over five uh

1026
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 4: maybe three to five k's. But you know what, they're

1027
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 4: guess they're gonna.

1028
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: Be a lot of hard. I will say that, you know,

1029
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: speed skaters, we are resilient.

1030
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: The amount of training that goes into that sport is

1031
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 4: john dropping. You know, we're talking about being dropping jaws.

1032
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 4: You know, we're on the ice training, cross training between

1033
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: ice and not ice.

1034
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: You know, six to ten hours a day.

1035
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 4: Six days a week, eleven months of the year for

1036
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: what forty something seconds of what it.

1037
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: Is in the Olympics.

1038
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: You know that that time you get to perform, put

1039
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 4: everything together, and sometimes it's those athletes, some of those

1040
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 4: athletes don't make it, which is crazy to think about. Right,

1041
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 4: we dedicate our whole lives for something that happens every

1042
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: four years, and we don't get the opportunity to go

1043
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 4: and showcase what we've worked for. And so you know,

1044
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: they're they're they're they're gonna come back and they're going

1045
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: to keep pushing even though they're most likely going to

1046
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 4: strike out.

1047
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 2: All right, Eddie, take us back to twenty fourteen, and

1048
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: then take us forward to twenty twenty. That you stood

1049
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: on an Olympic medal stand with a metal around your

1050
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: neck while they played the national anthem. Tell us what

1051
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: that was like.

1052
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: Emotional.

1053
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: So twenty fourteen, you know, we won the silver medal.

1054
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 4: Russia beat us, so we had to listen to their anthem.

1055
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: But still, you know, stepping on the podium and looking

1056
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: at a field of heads, you know, because you know

1057
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: you're looking at this crowd, there's the Olympic torch, the

1058
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 4: Olympic torches in the back. It's it's a beautiful, beautiful site.

1059
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: You feel on top of the world.

1060
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 4: Then when I had that opportunity to do it again

1061
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 4: in Japan and we lost to Japan on their home turf,

1062
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 4: we had to listen to the Japanese anthem as well

1063
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: in an empty stadium because it was during the COVID

1064
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 4: Olympics in Tokyo, which was I hope we never have

1065
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: to experience that again.

1066
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 3: That was a crazy moment. But either way, I just

1067
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: I loved being on the podium. With my brothers. That's

1068
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: what it felt like.

1069
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 4: It felt like I was sharing a moment with guys

1070
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 4: at sacrifices as much as I have, and it was

1071
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to cherish those moments forever.

1072
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: Last question for me, Eddie. Todd Fraser is a future guest.

1073
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to him when we go to

1074
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: the Little League World Series. We're doing a show from there.

1075
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: Let me know if you.

1076
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: Need me to text him and say, hey, you need

1077
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 4: to get on this show.

1078
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: All right, you let me know.

1079
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: I'll yell at him, tell us about He's great. He's

1080
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: worked with my dad, they've called games together. They love

1081
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: doing the Little League World Series together. Do you have

1082
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: any great Todd Frasier stories are you guys playing on

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Speaker 1: that show?

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Speaker 4: I have way too many, but I definitely have a

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Speaker 4: couple that I would love to share. The Todd Fathers

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Speaker 4: I like to call him, or pretty much everybody loves

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Speaker 4: to call him.

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Speaker 3: He's a character, he's he's he's a one man show.

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Speaker 3: That guy needs his own show is what he needs.

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Speaker 4: So we're waiting to go to a practice. So we're

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Speaker 4: waiting in the in our like our bus stop or section.

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Speaker 4: There was like a bunch of We had to walk

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Speaker 4: to this bus station almost and it was just I

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Speaker 4: mean a thousand stops.

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Speaker 3: That's what it felt like. And we were like one

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Speaker 3: of the last ones.

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Speaker 4: We had to walk one of the furthest and we

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Speaker 4: get to the bus stop and we're waiting.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're bored.

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Speaker 4: We're talking smack, you know, you know how we baseball

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Speaker 4: players can get. And we're just sitting there and I like,

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Speaker 4: I put my phone up to do a selfie for

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Speaker 4: for nothing, and you know, I put the phone Todd

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Speaker 4: sitting behind me, and I zoom in on Todd. The

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Speaker 4: next thing I know, he starts singing and he has

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Speaker 4: a voice of an angel.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He is a great singer I have. It's great, It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's everyone's draws on the floor. So I'm gonna blow

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Speaker 3: him up right now. He started singing the this Aladdin song, Eddie.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know, but Todd has like

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Speaker 2: six thousand pins from the Little League World Series.

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Speaker 4: He is the kid in the Olympics too, did he traded?

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Speaker 4: That's like a thing in the Olympics. You get a

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Speaker 4: batch of pins so that you can trade with other athletes.

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Speaker 3: From other countries and stuff. He did great, he did.

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Speaker 3: He was one of the top guys in our baseball team.

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Speaker 2: Right well, we jokingly call him the biggest twelve year

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Speaker 2: old we've ever seen, because that's that's who he is.

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Speaker 2: He still acts that way, and he still is like

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Speaker 2: right like he's from Tom's River, New Jersey, and he's

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Speaker 2: still playing in the Little League World Series even though

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Speaker 2: he's almost forty years old.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful, all right, I have the video you guys ready, Yes.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he's so great.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to get a text for movie.

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Speaker 2: Eddie. I have one last question, and it's a serious question. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there are two people in the history of the world

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Speaker 2: who have played Major League Baseball and won an Olympic

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Speaker 2: medal in another sport. It's you, and go ahead, Jim Thorpe, Eddie.

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty five years older than you. Jim Thorpe might

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Speaker 2: be the greatest athlete of all time, all time, and

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Speaker 2: you are in the same two man club as him.

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Speaker 2: How does that make you feel?

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Speaker 4: It's I have had the absolute honor of going to

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Speaker 4: the Jim Thorpe Museum in Oklahoma City when I was

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Speaker 4: with the Dodgers, the Triple a team in ok see

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Speaker 4: the museums attached to the stadium. It was the coolest

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Speaker 4: thing is a Jim Thorpe statue of him. I have

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Speaker 4: a picture of that as well of me standing next

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Speaker 4: to him. I got to visit the museum and learn

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Speaker 4: about his life.

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Speaker 3: His I mean, talk.

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Speaker 4: About an immigrant story that is as pure as it comes.

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Speaker 4: The guys had to battle all sorts of setbacks and

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Speaker 4: you name it.

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Speaker 3: But in my eyes, he is the greatest athlete to

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Speaker 3: have ever walked this earth.

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Speaker 1: Eddie Alvarez, thank you. This was so so great and

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Speaker 1: we had a joy talking to you. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: watch more Olympics. You're gonna go watch more Olympics on

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Speaker 1: your off day. I'm sure you're excited to have an

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Speaker 1: off day to sit on your butt and turn on

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Speaker 1: peacock and just stream all day.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's as soon as you hang up, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: press the volume buttons so I can hear it.

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Speaker 2: Just just to finish, Eddie. Our last three guests on

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Speaker 2: this show have been Cal Ripken Jr. Johnny Bench, and

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Speaker 2: Eddie Alvarez. How about that for a lineup?

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Speaker 3: Huh wow, that's incredible. That's pretty good. That's pretty good, right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us. You've been in

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Speaker 2: absolute delight. Thank you, no thanks.

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Speaker 3: For having me on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Eddie Alvarez. That was so much fun. He

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Speaker 1: is so great and I'm glad we could get him

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Speaker 1: back to watching the Olympics because he is a two

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Speaker 1: time Olympic medalist and in two completely different sports. So

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Speaker 1: that was a great interview. And you compared him to

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Speaker 1: Jim Thorpe, and he's been to the Jim Thorpe Museum.

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Speaker 2: That was like crest Jim Thorpe. By the way, Jeff

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Speaker 2: one Uh in the Olympics, in the pentathlon and the

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Speaker 2: Decaplon in eighteen twelve. He also played, of course, major

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Speaker 2: League baseball, he played professional football, and he played professional basketball.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's a way around this. He might

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Speaker 2: be the greatest athlete of all time, but with all

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Speaker 2: due respect to the great Jim Thorpe, he didn't play

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Speaker 2: in the big leagues and was a speed skater. Eddie

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Speaker 2: Alvarez's twosome there is unprecedented, basically in the history of sports.

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Speaker 2: And we had him on the air talking about skating

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Speaker 2: and trying to hit a slider. It was so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for everybody for listening to this special Olympics

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Speaker 1: I hope you survived the trade deadline, my friend.

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Speaker 2: And I'll see you always in the basement studio next week,

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Speaker 2: next week, say you that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and as always, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being a part of our family.

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