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Speaker 1: What's happened?

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome into a Friday nation of Texans all access

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Speaker 2: less than forty eight hours away from kickoff against the

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Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. Can't wait, cannot wait. I'man host for this evening,

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Speaker 2: John Harris Football, ANAL sideline reporter, and when I tell

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Speaker 2: you we got a jam packed show. Mark vanderm and

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Speaker 2: I we're talking about this afternoon. We weren't sure we

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Speaker 2: could get everything in two hours, but will we have

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Speaker 2: is two hours, so we're gonna get it all in tonight.

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Speaker 2: We got a reporter's round table, what you're gonna love.

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Speaker 2: We've got Texans OG's which is gonna be great with

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Speaker 2: Indy klu and Jonathan Joseph to kick off our second hour. Uh,

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Speaker 2: We've got Deep City Diving Deep going behind enemy sidelines

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Speaker 2: of the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You got my keyses, the game, my predictions.

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Speaker 2: I honestly, maybe Mark's right, maybe we can't get it

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Speaker 2: all in one show, but we're gonna do everything we

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Speaker 2: can to do it. And his first segment is gonna

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Speaker 2: be jam packed. We're gonna hear from Mark and I.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about this game. We're also gonna hear

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Speaker 2: from Denzel Perriman, who got a chance to catch up

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Speaker 2: with Drew Actually hear from him twice, a little pregame

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Speaker 2: interview Football centric and then a little Drews doesn't a

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Speaker 2: little bit later.

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Speaker 1: So lot to do. So let's kick off the show

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Speaker 1: on a Friday, as we always do.

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Speaker 2: The head coach your Houston Texans Dimko Ryans, who sat

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Speaker 2: down with Mark Vandermuir to discuss this matchup with the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: All right, coach, here we go opening day. Everybody's sky high.

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Speaker 3: I know you want the guys to play with reckless, abandoned,

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Speaker 3: but how do you balance that and being fundamentally sound,

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Speaker 3: playing with technique.

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Speaker 4: Our guys are excited, excited to go, cut it loose.

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Speaker 4: We've been you know. I was talking to Andrew Beggi's like, man,

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Speaker 4: I'm tired of going against the Blue jerseys. So it's time, right,

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Speaker 4: guys are ready to go. And we want our guys

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Speaker 4: to play with the fundamentals right, the techniques who want

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Speaker 4: to play play smart football but also have that aggression right.

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Speaker 4: We want them to be the most physical team right

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Speaker 4: when we step out on the field Sunday. And that's

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Speaker 4: what's gonna take. The Ravens are tough out. They've all

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Speaker 4: always been a fairy physical team, so we have to

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Speaker 4: make sure we're the most physical team. We have to

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Speaker 4: play smart football when it comes to any situations we

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Speaker 4: we we are faced, we have we have to play

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Speaker 4: smart football, and we just have to protect the football

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Speaker 4: and attack it on defense.

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Speaker 3: So you have numerous guys seen their first NFL action

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Speaker 3: in this game. Give me a couple of things that

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Speaker 3: are really important for them to remember or know about

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Speaker 3: as they head into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, yeah, man, think when you step into

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Speaker 4: that stadium as your first game, it's one you always

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Speaker 4: remember for our rookies and they have to take that in,

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Speaker 4: take that moment in to reflect like their first NFL

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Speaker 4: game one you'll never forget.

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Speaker 5: But then you have to go out and.

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Speaker 4: Remember that it's still football and don't let the don't

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Speaker 4: let the lights become too big for you. Right, just

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Speaker 4: go out and continue to play, you know, really great football.

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Speaker 4: That's why you were selected in the draft, and that's

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Speaker 4: why you were added to our team because we felt

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Speaker 4: like you were a good football player. So just do

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Speaker 4: what you've been doing and go have fun playing football.

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Speaker 3: So much talk about Lamar Jackson, coach, but all the

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Speaker 3: other weapons they have and their O line really good

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Speaker 3: stuff that they have that you have to deal with defensively.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if it starts up from their offensive line, right,

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Speaker 4: you don't see a lot of guys hitting Lamar. He's

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Speaker 4: it comes to rushing the past. Un with his athleticism

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Speaker 4: being able to get out of the pocket. Have our

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Speaker 4: hands full there. But when you see the weapons that

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Speaker 4: they've added on the outside, with Zay Flowers, Odell Beckham,

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Speaker 4: it's Nelson Aguilar. They have explosive playmakers and I feel

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Speaker 4: like their intent will be to try to throw the

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Speaker 4: you know, Lamar's favorite target. So they have a lot

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Speaker 4: we have great ide discipline when it comes to coverage.

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Speaker 3: What is it about their defense? Coordinators change over the year,

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Speaker 3: some big names in that department, but the brand of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does, and credited coach McDonald, he's done an

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Speaker 4: outstanding job. He was there with the Ravens before, I

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Speaker 5: They mix it up, they do.

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Speaker 4: He does a really great job of pressuring.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: They play really tight man coverage and you know they

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Speaker 4: put you in difficult situations.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: They try to dictate the game by applying pressure, and

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Speaker 4: they've done it multiple ways, whether it's linebackers, blitzing, pass

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: They've added a lot of talent to that roster on

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Speaker 3: Just one more quick one. How have you dealt with

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Speaker 3: preparing for the noise you're gonna face? CJ his first

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Speaker 4: I try to pop up a clip to show them, right.

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Speaker 4: I think I popped up a clip of the raven

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins at the Ravens and it was the first

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Speaker 4: game to show him, right. It just cranked up the noise,

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Speaker 4: cranked up the volume as loud as I could in

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Speaker 4: the team room, just to let him know, like, this

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Speaker 4: is what is gonna sound like, So don't be surprised. Right,

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Speaker 4: The huddle has to be tight. Guys have to be

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Speaker 4: make sure everybody is listening. But it's gonna be loud, right,

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna be able to use cadence like you

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Speaker 4: that way. And they got the point. I've seen the

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Speaker 4: huddles in practice have been tight. You know, they've been

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Speaker 4: operating really well, you know, with the silent count. So

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Speaker 4: it's just a matter of them just going out and

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Speaker 4: actually doing it under the real circumstances.

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Speaker 6: Great stuff, coach, Thanks a lot, good luck.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Mark, Yes, thank you Mark, and thank you Tomiko.

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Speaker 2: Also we're talking linebackers here, Demiko one of the great

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Speaker 2: linebackers in Texas history.

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Speaker 1: Hoping that number six.

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Speaker 2: Denzel Perriman can follow in those footsteps, he caught up

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Speaker 2: with Drew to discuss this game against the Ravens.

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Speaker 7: Linebacker Denzel Perriman joins us, good to be with you.

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Speaker 7: What is your level of excitement right now going into

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Speaker 8: Preseason over with counts now?

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Speaker 9: I mean not saying that preachts don't count, but you

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Speaker 9: know what, I'm saying, rencount now just the progress that

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Speaker 9: we have from preseason up you know to this point.

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Speaker 8: Now, I'm really excited to see what we they were doing.

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Speaker 7: Sunday, No doubt, I'm glad you bring up the preseason

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Speaker 7: because what we saw from this defense in the preseason.

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Speaker 10: How many more wrinkles?

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Speaker 7: How much more is there to this defense that we're

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Speaker 7: gonna see Sunday and in the months to come, you think, just.

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Speaker 8: Us putting it all together. Finally we had you know,

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Speaker 9: On college space to space. But I mean that's what

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Speaker 9: preseason's about. I mean, just getting together. It's a lot

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Speaker 9: of new guys on the team. Everybody's in a new system,

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Speaker 9: new program, new coaching staff and everything.

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Speaker 8: So just coming together. That's what the whole preseason is

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Speaker 8: all about.

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Speaker 7: What's the biggest challenge Lamar Jackson presents for this linebacker court,

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Speaker 7: for the defense.

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Speaker 8: As a whole. I mean, everybody know what Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 9: He can throw the deep ball, he can run, he's

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Speaker 9: very elusive, he can extend plays. So we got to

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Speaker 9: make one dimension. We got to make the whole offense

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how good a running team is this team, the

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Speaker 8: I like to say, Yeah, they got some great bags.

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Speaker 9: Dobbins, he got Gus Twiss I played with in college,

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Speaker 9: But like they have some backs on top of a

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Speaker 9: all can run.

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Speaker 7: And then you might have to deal with him a

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Speaker 7: little bit over the middle. Some Mark Andrews, that's a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he got some weapons.

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Speaker 9: He got a lot of weapons, man, not just Mark Andrews,

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Speaker 9: but you know, you go outside of your obj Z

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Speaker 8: Just drafted, so they got a bunch of weapons. Man.

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Speaker 9: So the key is to make it one dimensional and

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Speaker 7: What are you making this atmosphere at M ANDT Banks

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Speaker 7: Stadium there they're in Baltimore. What what do you have

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Speaker 9: Just the crowd noise, I would say, more so powerful

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Speaker 9: the offense, Yeah, you know, just the crowd noise, the.

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Speaker 9: Been there before, Ray Lewis has been in the stadium,

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Speaker 7: How much do you like as a defensive guy going

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Speaker 7: home and you love that crowd noise, but how much

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Speaker 7: fun is it going on the road sort of that

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Speaker 7: US against the world quote unquote mentality?

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Speaker 8: I like it.

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Speaker 9: It's just a challenge and I feel like everybody on

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Speaker 9: this team, you know, we like to rise, you know

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Speaker 9: to those challenges. You know, we don't pay attention to

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Speaker 9: you know, just the way our mindset is, you know

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Speaker 9: we're on the road, at home.

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Speaker 8: Or just in general, like I said, just stepping up

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Speaker 7: All right, Last thing, how are you fueling up on

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Speaker 7: game day? What's the pregame meal for you at a

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Speaker 7: one o'clock kickoff?

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Speaker 8: Honestly, on the game days, man, I probably just drink it. Slouthie.

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Speaker 9: Well, I drink a coffee and like have my butter

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Speaker 9: cossant from Starbucks, and that's what I.

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Speaker 8: Like, I get ready for a game, keep it light right,

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Speaker 8: keep it light, and I watch himbo slice.

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Speaker 10: There we go.

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Speaker 7: All right, Well, Denzel Perriman, thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 7: Best of luck against the Ravens. Best of luck the

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Speaker 7: rest of the way.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, man.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate all right.

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Speaker 2: It's always good stuff from Demico and Denzel. Two lime backers.

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Speaker 2: It's good to catch up with them. Thanks to Drew.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the Mark stays with me.

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Speaker 6: Mark your raw feel you We listened.

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Speaker 3: I would play for him, Johnny. I don't care what

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Speaker 6: Yes that happened. Kind of esoteric, I know.

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Speaker 6: I think that's going to be his coaching superpower. I

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Speaker 6: Like, I can't believe they pay five million dollars to

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Speaker 6: But then the Lions took advantage of that.

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Speaker 2: How about the fact the Lions have won too straight

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Speaker 6: Football on the Road. I didn't think of that.

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Speaker 2: They finished last year at Green Bay, not green Bay

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Speaker 6: Make Kansas City own one. I didn't think of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's worth mentioning because if you wanted to

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Speaker 6: They weren't perfect at all.

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Speaker 3: They made a mistake after a mistake, yet they won

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Speaker 6: It's over. So you have to remember that. It's just

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna do my second My second book

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I think that because I got Volume one

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Speaker 6: Yea, even if one right down one But all you

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Speaker 2: You have to intersect them at some point and where

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Speaker 2: And there would be analytics, but don't know, you gotta

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Speaker 2: I want to see if the Colts can hold up

442
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Speaker 2: a little bit against the Jags. Now, these games will

443
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Speaker 2: be going on while we're playing, right, so we'll be

444
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Speaker 2: scoreable or watching.

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Speaker 6: We'll monster it. Johnny. It's week one of a seventeen

446
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Speaker 6: game season. But yes, I'm that guy. I am scoreboard

447
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Speaker 6: watching all the way.

448
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Speaker 3: And was it McLean last night who said I know

449
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Speaker 3: you'll be rooting for the Jags to beat the Colts

450
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Speaker 3: or something like that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I will or not. I don't know.

452
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Speaker 3: I don't root for either team in these situations. I

453
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Speaker 3: see how it plays out. I guess it would be

454
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Speaker 3: nice to hang a loss on the Jags, but that

455
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Speaker 3: means the Colts won, yuck, and then they're coming in here.

456
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Speaker 3: But you get them next week. Look, win or lose,

457
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Speaker 3: you get them next week. It's a tough game. It's

458
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Speaker 3: the Colts. I don't care who's playing. I've been over

459
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Speaker 3: this many times. So yeah, you know what, if you

460
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Speaker 3: could send them to one and one and the Jags

461
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Speaker 3: already have won loss, that's nice with fifteen games to go,

462
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Speaker 3: stop me, But don't you agree Jags Colts?

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm wildly intrigued by this Titan Saints matchup because

464
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Speaker 2: I think the Saints. The more I've thought about this,

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Speaker 2: I think the Saints stay relatively healthy.

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Speaker 6: I think the Saints could be pretty tough. I really do.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad we're playing those suckers here. The more I

468
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Speaker 6: thought of it.

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Speaker 2: I was watching the game back again today, the Saints

470
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Speaker 2: preseason game, and I'm watching Brian Brazil. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I know there was a lot made about Brian Berze

472
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Speaker 2: against Shaq Or I.

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Speaker 6: Mean Kenyan Green. Yeah, and again all that Brian Berzy

474
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Speaker 6: did that.

475
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Speaker 2: Every single one of our interior guys spin, move, spin,

476
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Speaker 2: you name it, spin, move, rip, move, whatever.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he did it. He was unbelievable.

478
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Speaker 10: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Now you throw him into all the veterans, they already have.

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Speaker 2: Holy smokes, they could be. They could be pretty salty

481
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Speaker 2: where they're similar to the Ravens.

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Speaker 6: We drive this back in the Ravens. They don't. Now.

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Speaker 2: Brazil is a rookie, and I like what they did

484
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Speaker 2: in their draft. I really do like what the Saints did,

485
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Speaker 2: but they don't have to play it. They don't have

486
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Speaker 2: in their in their top eleven on both sides of

487
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Speaker 2: the ball. They don't have a surefire rookie starter. They're

488
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Speaker 2: all Vets and they've all been there except for Derek

489
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Speaker 2: Carr of course comes in. He's gonna be a factor,

490
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Speaker 2: but he may not play every single down. They're loaded there,

491
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Speaker 2: and I hope they put an absolute number on the Titans.

492
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Speaker 2: Sure they put a number on the Times, so it's

493
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Speaker 2: not as compelling. I think Jags Colts. It's up in Indy,

494
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Speaker 2: So I give the Colts a chance. Who had been

495
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Speaker 2: down to Jacksonville. We know what would have happened. I mean,

496
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Speaker 2: the script has already been written.

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Speaker 6: For and lost their six nothing exactly.

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Speaker 1: When they were on a roll.

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Speaker 2: That was a team that was on a roll. They

500
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Speaker 2: were rolling up big on everybody. Jacksonville lost six to nothing.

501
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Speaker 6: That was the team that won here in the playoffs.

502
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Speaker 6: I know they lost six to nothing late in the

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Speaker 6: year Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I mean the year that was it twenty one when

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Speaker 2: the Colts were on in season hard knocks and all

506
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Speaker 2: they gotta do is in one of the last two

507
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Speaker 2: games and lost to the Raiders, like a look, they

508
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Speaker 2: got the Jags, the Jacks thinking the Jags blew them

509
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Speaker 2: out in the finale. I mean the tale of Carson

510
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Speaker 2: wentz Oh to tell Yeah it's gonna be I love

511
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Speaker 2: that on Sunday though.

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Speaker 6: I love that. I love scoreboard watching. I love what's

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Speaker 6: going on in the other than the other stadium.

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Speaker 2: I I love being on the road for games when

515
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Speaker 2: it's not raining and it probably will rain, but that's okay,

516
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Speaker 2: and just monitoring everything that's going on and then kind

517
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Speaker 2: of catching up you get on a plane, it's like,

518
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Speaker 2: oh man, what happened to all these other games?

519
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Speaker 6: You see all these highlights.

520
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Speaker 2: I love all that. I love everything that goes with it.

521
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my keys to the game later on.

522
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: Give me your offensive key and your defensive key to

523
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Speaker 2: beating the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not gonna say don't turn the ball over,

525
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Speaker 3: because that's show. That's like sell it on the shelf.

526
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Speaker 3: That's like an every week. That's like saying you must

527
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Speaker 3: outscore the opponent, right, don't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 6: Must outscore the opponent to win the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this is a big game as far

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Speaker 3: as look, you got to be able to run the ball.

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Speaker 6: We all know that.

532
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Speaker 3: But Stroud has to be accurate. He has to be

533
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Speaker 3: able to and this is easier said than done. And

534
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Speaker 3: like you heard Demiko say, they got to be tight

535
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Speaker 3: in the huddle. They got to be really tight with

536
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Speaker 3: their communication, get the play call correct, and get the

537
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Speaker 3: ball out fast. Third down passing is going to be

538
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Speaker 3: a huge factor in this game. It is in all games,

539
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Speaker 3: but I think, especially here, are you able to extend drives,

540
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Speaker 3: particularly in the first half and stay in it improve

541
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Speaker 3: I want to sit there after about a quarter, Johnny,

542
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Speaker 3: you Andre me, I want to be talking about this.

543
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Speaker 6: Hey, we're playing with them. We can play with these guys.

544
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Speaker 3: That's what I want to see out of this team

545
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Speaker 3: early on, and then hang out down the stretch and

546
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Speaker 3: make a huge second half play, fourth quarter play to tip.

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Speaker 6: The game in your favor.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I actually I thought a little bit about LSUFSU. Now

550
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Speaker 2: it's a I think people perceive this game with the

551
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Speaker 2: Texas and Ravens to not be that way. But I

552
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Speaker 2: think a lot of people thought LSU was gonna roll

553
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Speaker 2: in that game. And uh no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

554
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Speaker 2: Not that fis Duke Clemson. That's the game I'm thinking of.

555
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Duke's hanging in there. They're down by one.

556
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: You know, they had that you know, Jalen Calhoun funnel

557
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: that punt muffed, That punt gave Clemson's short field. Clemson scores,

558
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: takes a seven to six lead, and I just remember thinking, Man,

559
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Speaker 2: if Duke could just do something at the start of

560
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Speaker 2: the third quarter, man, that could really give them momentum,

561
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Speaker 2: and then Duke's best player did something superhuman to break

562
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Speaker 2: out of a tackle of an All American linebacker and

563
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Speaker 2: then sprint and beat everybody the end zone. And it

564
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Speaker 2: was that play in a third quarter where you saw

565
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Speaker 2: everybody in the Duke's sideline like, hey, we got shant,

566
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Speaker 2: we got a chance to win. Yeah, you believe that

567
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: you can win, but you don't know you can win.

568
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Speaker 2: Then that play happens in the third quarter. And I

569
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Speaker 2: thought about that in the Texans Ravens game. I know

570
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Speaker 2: these guys feel like, hey, they're gonna compete, They're gonna

571
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Speaker 2: compete their guts out, but something's got to happen in

572
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Speaker 2: that third quarter. And if and something good happen at

573
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Speaker 2: third courd. It doesn't have to be a touchdown right

574
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Speaker 2: way you'd like for it to be, but something that

575
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Speaker 2: changes the game where you see the tide in the

576
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Speaker 2: momentum kind of turning the sidelines like, not only do

577
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Speaker 2: we feel like we can win it, We're going to

578
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Speaker 2: win this thing. And I think that's something that in

579
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Speaker 2: the third quarter would be really good. And the Duke

580
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Speaker 2: Clemson game was a perfect example of that when Riley

581
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Speaker 2: Leonard made that play. The best player on a team

582
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Speaker 2: made that play. The sideline went nuts and they took

583
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Speaker 2: off from there. You couldn't you could't st them the

584
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Speaker 2: rest of the game, and that's got to happen.

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Speaker 3: I think I'll see the play out last night, Johnny,

586
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Speaker 3: because the Chiefs believe they're gonna win every game, yes,

587
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Speaker 3: and they were stunned that they lost it. Yes, the Lions,

588
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Speaker 3: I had a feeling they think they can win, right.

589
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Speaker 3: I think I can. I think I can, like the

590
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: little engine that could. But at some point they're like, hey,

591
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Speaker 3: we actually can do this, and that's gonna build confidence

592
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: throughout the rest of the season for them. We'll see

593
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Speaker 3: how it shakes out in the NFC North, but man,

594
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Speaker 3: it's so compelling. I want the Texans to have that

595
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Speaker 3: feeling to execute, to have that kind of success and

596
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Speaker 3: then get.

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Speaker 6: Ready for the home opener against the dreaded Cults.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, it's gonna be exciting. Can be wet, and

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Speaker 2: that's fine. I'll get wet, but we come home with

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Speaker 2: a w that will be just fine. Now I asked

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Speaker 2: Mark his keys to the game, I'll give you mine

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Speaker 2: next right here in Texans All Access. Yes, sir, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to this edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host,

604
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Speaker 2: John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: So glad to be with you as we hone in

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Speaker 2: on on Sunday, kickoff noon Central time. If you go

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Speaker 2: into the game, it's one o'clock there in Baltimore. Remember

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Speaker 2: it's East coast time.

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Speaker 1: And bring your ray and gear, baby, because it's going

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Speaker 1: to be wet seemingly all right.

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Speaker 2: Each and every year, each and every Friday, I do

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Speaker 2: my keys to the game. Now you could read my

613
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Speaker 2: know your faux article. It's all kinds of stuff in there.

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Speaker 2: I do put my keys in there.

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Speaker 6: But I was.

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Speaker 2: Reminded by a good friend of mine many many years ago,

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Speaker 2: hey you need to he ain't do those keys on

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Speaker 2: Friday night.

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Speaker 1: I was told good Old Jr.

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Speaker 2: I had the right thing to say at all times.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it. Give me my music to

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Speaker 2: get me rolling. Oh man, I haven't heard that music

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Speaker 2: in a while.

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Speaker 1: That sounds good. I like it.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into this one against the Ravens and start

627
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Speaker 2: with this Ravens offense.

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Speaker 1: Against the Texans defense.

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Speaker 2: It's a Ravens unit that last year was second in

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Speaker 2: the NFL one hundred and sixty rushing yards per game.

631
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Speaker 2: They were twenty eighth though in passing yards one hundred

632
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Speaker 2: and seventy eight.

633
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Speaker 1: Point eight yards per game.

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Speaker 2: They got to the playoffs last year, but it was

635
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley who was driving the machine. As Lamar Jackson

636
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: was hurt on December fourth last year and then missed

637
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Speaker 2: the rest of the year, so Lamar hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Played in almost three hundred days.

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Speaker 2: It's a total offense of three hundred and thirty nine

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Speaker 2: yards per game that was right in the middle sixteenth

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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 1: They lost twenty one turnovers. They were plus four in

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Speaker 1: tournament ratio. We'll get down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Changes for the Ravens offensive coordinator is a big one.

645
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Speaker 2: Todd Munken comes over from the University of Georgia. Other

646
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Speaker 2: than that, not much. Odell Beckham Junior added Zay Flowers drafted.

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Speaker 2: After that, it's a lot of the same from last

648
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Speaker 2: year now. Odell Beckham Junior is back at practice one

649
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Speaker 2: hundred percent, so he's ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is questionable.

651
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Speaker 2: But if Mark Andrews can't go, Isaiah likely is the

652
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Speaker 2: likely candidate to replace him. The punt intended, but Isaiah

653
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: likely is a pretty good athlete. Now, I canna imagine

654
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: that the Ravens are gonna want to use some different looks.

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Speaker 2: One of the things Bunkin did at Georgia was used

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Speaker 2: a lot of twelve personnel. Brock powers, Darnell Washington. I

657
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Speaker 2: could see him using some twelve personnel. The difference is

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Speaker 2: Andrews and likely neither one of them are good blockers,

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Speaker 2: Whereas at Georgia Darnell Washington was a hammer, so little

660
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: different makeup, and obviously with Lamar Jackson pulling triggers can

661
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: be different than what they had with Stetson Bennett.

662
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Speaker 1: Either way, let's dive into our keys key number one.

663
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: I call it space, the most important final frontier now

664
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: fifty three and a half yards with one hundred yards

665
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: in length, and the Ravens are going to challenge.

666
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: The Texans to cover all that space. And the best

667
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: way to do that.

668
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: Quick screens, tunnel screens, now screens, any way they can

669
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: get the ball to their space players. Obviously, the one

670
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: everybody knows about is Lamar Jackson, and what's the easiest

671
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: and quickest way to get him the ball? I'll snap

672
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: it option but I think the most dangerous thing and

673
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: where he can really create a ton of issues in

674
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: space is it inconsistent and undisciplined pass rush. If you

675
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: get out of your lanes, he's gonna make you pay

676
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 2: because there will be a seam. And now once that

677
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: steam opens, he's out in space. And once these guys

678
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: get on space, they're very difficult to tackle.

679
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: But the tackling has to be at a premium.

680
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: Your angles have to be good, your pursuit has to

681
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: be solid, and you've got to wrap up and bring

682
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: them down.

683
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: In particular Lamar. Seeing Lamar throw off three hundred pounders

684
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: like it's nothing, tackleing is huge.

685
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: So to conquer the final frontier out in space, tackling

686
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: is the biggest thing.

687
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: But there's so much that goes into tackling.

688
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: Getting a position when your pursuit angles don't follow another

689
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: white jersey, make sure that you're hemming Lamar Jackson.

690
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: In the pocket. We'll get that a little bit more.

691
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 2: But space the most important final frontier for the Texans

692
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: to win that, boy, there are a lot of things

693
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: that go into that, no question about it.

694
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Speaker 1: Let's go to number two. At the end of season.

695
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: You don't want to look up and see your safeties

696
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 2: leader team at tackles, especially by how many Jalen Petrie

697
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: led the Texans and tackles last year. It was an

698
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: obscene number. However, let's not get it twisted here. Jalen

699
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: Petrie has to be part of the run defense, has

700
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: to has to. You saw him against New Orleans on

701
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: a second and five play. He made a great play

702
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: from the backside, running it down and keeping it to

703
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: no game. That's the kind of thing Jalen Petrie has

704
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: to be involved in all times. So, yeah, you don't

705
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: want him to have twenty tackles a game, right, but

706
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: you do have to have him involved. He does have

707
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: to find a fit in the run fit. You need

708
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: Jalen Petrie on that wall. You gotta have him on

709
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: that wall channeling a few good men, but you get

710
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: the point. To stop Lamar Jackson. Jaleb Petrie's got to

711
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: be a massive part of that. And it's the first

712
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: time for a lot of these guys to face Lamar Jackson.

713
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: So Jaln Petrie's got to be on point with his

714
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: tackling and sometimes last year that wasn't great. So he's

715
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: got to play under control at all times, but he

716
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: must be a factor in the run defense.

717
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: Now let's get to our key.

718
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: Number three, where there's a Will, Well, there's a Will Anderson.

719
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: And that's good because the Texans need a game changer

720
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: like Will Anderson on the defensive side of the ball.

721
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: But one thing this defense is gonna have to protect against.

722
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna be so excited to go out there first game,

723
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: different color, Jersey amped up. Who I mean, You're feeling

724
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: Rick Flair all over your body and then all of

725
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: a sudden you take one step the wrong way and

726
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson takes advantage of.

727
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: You being out of position.

728
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: Dang it, that is exactly what you cannot have. So

729
00:30:53,160 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: there's got to be this unrelenting pursuit yet under control,

730
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: especially in the pass rush.

731
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: If you leave him a scene, he's gonna he's gonna

732
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: exploit it.

733
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: So there's a very fine line between balls to the

734
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: wall and not really rushing. You gotta find that to

735
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: collapse the pocket on Lamar not a couple guys from

736
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: one side getting there and then the other two are kind

737
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: of out of their lanes and Lamar.

738
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 6: Away he goes.

739
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: That cannot and I repeat, cannot happen they've got to

740
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: be under control rushing Lamar, envelop him in the pocket,

741
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: and then you got an opportunity to have him throw

742
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: from that enveloped pocket, and maybe he throws you one

743
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: or two. And that's where you want him to be

744
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: if you don't want creating scenes. Because some guys are undisciplined.

745
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: They're going balls to the wall and they're trying to

746
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 2: get there, and then so doing Lamar exploits them. So

747
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: Will and Jerry Hughes and John Garnard and all the

748
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: guys in the interior.

749
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: It's got to be almost a.

750
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: Low burn, almost all long arms and bowl rushes right

751
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: into Lamar and then maybe he tries to get out,

752
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: he can't and you sack him. That's where you can

753
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: get those plays run In nineteen and in twenty Texans

754
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: couldn't do that. They really couldn't do that. They must

755
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: do it in twenty twenty three. All right, it's flipp

756
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: it over to the other side of the ball. This

757
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: Texans offense take it on the Ravens defense. Ravens were

758
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: third in the NFL last year in run defense, giving

759
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: up only ninety two yards a game passing yards. They

760
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: got beat up a little bit, so it's almost mirror images.

761
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: They're really good running the ball, not so great throwing defense,

762
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: really great stopping a run. Gave up two hundred and

763
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: thirty two point two yards a game through the air.

764
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: That's twenty six in the league. They were three twenty

765
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: four point three yards per game in total defense total

766
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: offense allowed, there's twenty fourth in the league. Now, they

767
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: were plus four turnovers, so that's good. Turnover margin is

768
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: good for them. But they will not have Marlin Humphy.

769
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna get that second Ronin Humphrey is out of

770
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: this game. So three keys come down to three questions

771
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: against the Ravens defense.

772
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: Number one, can you find ro Kwan Lo.

773
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: Kwan Smith is a starting middle linebacker for the Ravens.

774
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: He is an absolute bonafide stud. Texans saw him in

775
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: Week three last year and they couldn't get a hat

776
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: on him. He had fifteen tackles a pick at the end.

777
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: He was a menace all over the field.

778
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: The Texans must find a way with a reconfigured offensive

779
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: interior with Kenny Green out, just Sdrugs out, Scotti, Kuessiberry

780
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: hurt way back in training camp. Don't know exactly how

781
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: that's gonna Look, I know Laromy Tunsel, and I know

782
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: Shaq Mason, and after that, your guess is as good

783
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: as mine.

784
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: And so that group, no matter.

785
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: Who it is, still has to get to ro Kwan

786
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: must m us he must, must, must must. If he's

787
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: running to the field, running to the ball unabated, forget it.

788
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: Texans won't have fifty yards rushing. But if they can

789
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: get a hand on Roque, then they got an opportunity

790
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: to run the football like they want to. And if

791
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: they can't do it that way, then you gotta find

792
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: ways to get Damian Pierce to ball, which is still

793
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: gonna include getting.

794
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: A hat on Roe punt Smith.

795
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: All right, Number two, can you exploit the secondary? The

796
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: secondary without Marlon Humphrey. Now we knew that was gonna happen,

797
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: but it's not as if Ravens are sitting there with

798
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: plentiful options in the secondary. They just don't have a

799
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: lot of options. They got Rocket Scene and they got

800
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: Ronald Darby. That's really about it. Jalen Armor Davis, can

801
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 2: you exploit that with no Marlon Humphrey, No more Marcus

802
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Peters over there moves with the Ravens for.

803
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: A long time. Can the Texans exploit that?

804
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: Can they get the ball at de Nico Collins and

805
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Robert Woods and Tank Dell against a secondary without those corners.

806
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 1: That is a big key in this game.

807
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: And because the guy that has to get them the

808
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: ball is important in that I ask you this third

809
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: question in key, can you CJ Stroud stay calm?

810
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: Now? The short answer will be yes. That's just CJ.

811
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't get riled up, he doesn't get you two

812
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: up or down while he's playing.

813
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: He gets happy, you know, for a score, cheers for

814
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: his teammates and all that kind of stuff.

815
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: But can you stay calm during the game?

816
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: First game rookie, He's now done it three times, but

817
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: this is now the count season, He's now the regular season.

818
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: So raves on the other side, the facing one's the

819
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: entire game crowd is going to be in a fervor.

820
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: Can you stay calm? Now?

821
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: CJ has been in some big environments, Let's not get

822
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: it twisted. Rose Bowl two years ago twice against Michigan,

823
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: played his entire career Ohio State National Championship playoff game.

824
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: Last year against Georgia, hob mucking got to see.

825
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: Him up close, So there are a lot of things

826
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: to rap quarterback and young quarterback at that point, Interior,

827
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: offensive line, garden center in particular, not what you were

828
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: working with. So can you stay calmed? Because if CJ.

829
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: Stroud can stay calm, I think there's a great opportunity

830
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: to pitch and catch against that Raven secondary.

831
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: But to do that poise, not getting rattled.

832
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: The mistake happens, get past it, move onto the next

833
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna be opportunities against that secondary and when they're there,

834
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: get calm and poised.

835
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: Young quarterback and CJ.

836
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: Stroud's gotta take advantage of that, and hopefully he will

837
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: in Game one. And there you have it, your keys

838
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: to a win over the Baltimore Ravens. Now, let's learn

839
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: a little bit more about the Ravens. dB sitter is

840
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: gonna stop by to go behind enemy's sidelines next right

841
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Speaker 2: here on Texans All Access, look back to this Friday

842
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: edition of Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio Studio.

843
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: I am John Harris, your host, and a reminder, I'll

844
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: be in Baltimore for the game, but there is a

845
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: watch party in away game. Watch party presented by Sky

846
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: Vodka for fans. A cheer on our Houston Texans in

847
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: the first regular season game September tenth.

848
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Speaker 1: We'll be hosting at Drift in the Heights.

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00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: That's just around like that's like four or five blocks

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Speaker 2: from me, and we'll have Houston Texas cheerleaders and a

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00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: legend and to be determined, Toro Poro's got to get

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Speaker 2: out there. It's an RSP RSVP form. Let's be put

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00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: out on social in our newsletters. Make sure you get

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Speaker 2: out there and celebrate the away game watch party on

855
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Speaker 2: Sunday at Drift in the Heights. Easy to get there,

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Speaker 2: easy to find. All right, let's go behind enemy sidelines.

857
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: You hurt my keys of the game. Just now, let's

858
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Speaker 2: get it from the other side. As it's our reporter

859
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Speaker 2: round up with Deep Sidhu and from the Baltimore Ravens

860
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: Cassie Sharigo giving you the skinny on Lamar Jackson and

861
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: crew up in Baltimore.

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Speaker 12: We're going behind enemy seidelines. We're talking to Baltimore Ravens

863
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 12: team reporter Cassie Chiago. Cassie, I hope that you're as

864
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 12: excited as we are about week one. You get to

865
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 12: open the season at home. The Texans, unfortunately are going

866
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 12: to be up on the road at Baltimore. But what's

867
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 12: the mood like there in Baltimore right now?

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 13: It's good.

869
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 14: This vibe with this team is something that I haven't

870
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 14: seen maybe since twenty nineteen when the Ravens had a

871
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 14: really crazy season that year. But with additions like Odell

872
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 14: Beckham Junior, who obviously brings a lot of excitement both

873
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 14: in Baltimore and nationally, it's just it's a really you know,

874
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 14: exciting time in this Ravens with this Ravens team, and

875
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Speaker 14: there's just a lot of big pieces that have seen

876
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Speaker 14: to kind of finally fall into place for this team,

877
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 14: especially on the opposite side of the balls. So the

878
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 14: team is excited. I know that Baltimore, the fans are excited.

879
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 14: We're definitely antsy to get to Week one with a

880
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 14: lot of starters, even seeing a lot of action in preseason,

881
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Speaker 14: so the team is definitely rearing to go for Sunday.

882
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, have not seen any of Lamar Jackson throughout this preseason.

883
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 12: I know the big storyline for the past few season

884
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 12: since has been his contract situation. So now that that's resolved,

885
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 12: he's got a new contract, he's got new receivers, he's

886
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 12: got a new offensive coordinator. What are the expectations for

887
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 12: Lamar Jackson here heading into what is it, year six

888
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 12: now with the team? You know, what are people expecting

889
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Speaker 12: from him now that he's got a contract in place.

890
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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a great point.

891
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 14: I think that it's definitely been a weight off, you know, internally, externally.

892
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 14: That was the thing that everyone was talking about all season.

893
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 14: So I know that he's glad to just not have

894
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Speaker 14: to answer questions about it anymore. And obviously it's a

895
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Speaker 14: life changing, you know, deal for him and his family.

896
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Speaker 13: But I think that, like you mentioned, we haven't seen him.

897
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Speaker 14: We haven't seen any of the Ravens starters on offense

898
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 14: so far this season, and with Todd munkin coming in

899
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 14: the new offensive coordinator from Georgia, there's a lot of

900
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 14: question marks on what this offense will look like. Obviously

901
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Speaker 14: they're not showing a lot in preseason, and so it'll

902
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Speaker 14: be the first time we've seen guys like Mark Andrews

903
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 14: Day Flowers, the really exciting rookie who's flashed a lot

904
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Speaker 14: during training camp, Odell Beckham on the field, the Ravens

905
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Speaker 14: running back Shaky Dobbins, Got Edwards there's an embarrassment riches

906
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Speaker 14: which Lamar has not really ever had at his disposal here,

907
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Speaker 14: especially when it comes to receiver. You know, Eric DaCosta

908
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 14: acknowledged last week this is the first time he's fielded

909
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Speaker 14: calls about receivers and he honestly like thought it was

910
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Speaker 14: a joke at first. It's just not been typical of

911
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Speaker 14: the Ravens offense, especially since Lamar has been here. So

912
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Speaker 14: I think the expectations are high and knowing that he

913
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Speaker 14: does have these pieces and he'll be expected to deliver,

914
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Speaker 14: but I think that he very much feels like he's

915
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Speaker 14: up to that task.

916
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Speaker 12: All Right, we're talking with Cassie Schergo, Baltimore Ravens team reporter.

917
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Speaker 12: Let's talk about Odell Beckham Junior because we haven't seen

918
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 12: any of Lamar Jackson the presets, but we have really

919
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 12: not seen any of Odell Beckham Junior since he injured

920
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Speaker 12: his acl back in the Super Bowl in twenty twenty

921
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Speaker 12: two with the Rams. So how has he looked in

922
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Speaker 12: his return and you know, has he been a top

923
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Speaker 12: target for Lamar Jackson in this offense?

924
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Speaker 14: Yeah, the Ravens kind of worked him in gradually being

925
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 14: that this really is the first football action he's seen

926
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Speaker 14: in such a long time. So they kind of had

927
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Speaker 14: a process throughout the summer, so we've worked back in gradually.

928
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 14: We definitely saw that ramp up towards the end of camp,

929
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Speaker 14: and Lamar's obviously and effusive about how he feels about him.

930
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Speaker 14: He says that he's at this point he's faster than

931
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Speaker 14: a lot of people give him credit for. You know,

932
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Speaker 14: he doesn't see anything hindering him in the time that

933
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Speaker 14: he's had to work back, and Odell's been really I

934
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Speaker 14: guess reflective is the word I would use. I think

935
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Speaker 14: that he really sees this as an opportunity to kind

936
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Speaker 14: of bolster his legacy. He's a dad, you know, this

937
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Speaker 14: is the first time he's getting to have his son

938
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Speaker 14: beer on the facility and actually see what dad does

939
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Speaker 14: for a living, and I think that he feels like

940
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Speaker 14: that's a really special opportunity for him. You know, his

941
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Speaker 14: son might not remember this years down the road, but

942
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Speaker 14: this is a season that he really feels like he

943
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Speaker 14: wants to go back and be able to show his

944
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Speaker 14: son what he was able to accomplish. And so I

945
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 14: think that there's a lot of personal, you know gain

946
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Speaker 14: there that he's really has this season earmarked for him

947
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Speaker 14: that obviously he'said a lot of incredile things over his

948
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 14: career where he mos certainly doesn't feel that he's done

949
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Speaker 14: enough yet to kind of really bolster that legacy.

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Speaker 12: All right, So Odell Beckham Junior is the veteran, but

951
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Speaker 12: then you've got the rookie in Zay Flowers, who, by

952
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 12: the way, his Rookie Talent Show performance went viral, so

953
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 12: we obviously know he's got some talents when it comes

954
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Speaker 12: to this thing. But what's impressed you about the rookie

955
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 12: so far in what you've seen of him?

956
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Speaker 14: Yeah, he is certainly charismatic and who knew he could

957
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Speaker 14: have put on that kind of performance.

958
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Speaker 13: But he's great. You know.

959
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 14: I was actually at the draft when we when we

960
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 14: took him this year, and he's just a really good kid.

961
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Speaker 13: You know, he's really excited to be here.

962
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Speaker 14: He had a relationship with Odell previously, so they were

963
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 14: really excited to team up together. And Lamar Jackson has

964
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Speaker 14: called him a joystick, that's kind of the nickname he's

965
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 14: dubbed him with this camp. But he's really flashed, he's fast,

966
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Speaker 14: he can really create separation. We saw in the Commander's

967
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 14: preseason game, he was in for a drive with quarterback

968
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Speaker 14: Josh Johnson against the Commander's first team defense. Touchdown, first drive.

969
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 14: It only took about four plays to get down the field.

970
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Speaker 14: And so if the Ravens can translate that into the

971
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Speaker 14: regular season, Lamar Jackson will be thrilled. So, yeah, he's

972
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 14: been really shifty, you know, obviously flashed and practice both

973
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Speaker 14: in joint practices of the Commanders and against the Ravens defense,

974
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Speaker 14: which is obviously no joke. So the Ravens are very,

975
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Speaker 14: very excited about what he can bring.

976
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Speaker 13: All right.

977
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 12: Speaking of the Ravens defense, they trade for Roqwan Smith

978
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 12: last year year and then they added a guy that

979
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 12: many Texans fans are familiar with in Jadevan Clowney. So

980
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 12: how has that defense improved from last year this year?

981
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 12: And where do you expect Clowney to fit in now

982
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 12: that he's with the team.

983
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 14: So the Ravens will be without Tyas Bowser to start

984
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 14: the season. He's starting on NFI, so the Cownty kind

985
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 14: of made sense to bring in late during training camp

986
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 14: to kind of help fill that boy. The Ravens really

987
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 14: really like their two young guys and David Ajabo and

988
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 14: Adafa Oway, but a Jabo.

989
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 13: Hasn't seen a ton of action.

990
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 14: He's only playing sixteen games in an NFL career, and

991
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 14: a lot of people will know him from his.

992
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 13: Michigan to there at Michigan.

993
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 14: But the Ravens definitely think that he has a lot

994
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 14: of rooms still to grow, and so they'll kind of

995
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 14: try to bring those two younger guys along kind of

996
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 14: under Clowney's wing at the start of this season as

997
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 14: they wait for Tyas Bowser to work back. You know,

998
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 14: I think corner has been a really big question mark,

999
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 14: you know, externally, especially sort of the later.

1000
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 13: Half of training camp.

1001
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 14: The Ravens are without Marlon Humphrey right now, who's obviously

1002
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 14: the All Pro at that position, and so there's a

1003
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 14: lot of question marks there.

1004
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 13: You know.

1005
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 14: You mentioned some of the acquisitions that the team made

1006
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 14: this offseason. They brought in Rocket Scene Ronald Darby was

1007
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 14: a late training camp signing. But we haven't seen a

1008
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 14: ton of action from those guys in camp, both kind

1009
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 14: of dealing with injuries Arthur Molett from the Steelers. So

1010
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 14: cornerback is another kind of big question mark. But the

1011
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 14: Ravens feel good kind of about where they're at. You know,

1012
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 14: Coach Harball talk this week that he's seen some of

1013
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 14: the position rankings that national media will put out this

1014
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 14: time of year, and I think corner is one that

1015
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 14: they kind of have circled that they don't feel like

1016
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Speaker 14: they're getting the respect externally. There's some young talent there

1017
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Speaker 14: with Jyalen Arbor Davis who is a big name coming

1018
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 14: out of Alabama a few years ago, So they kind

1019
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 14: of feel like they're in a better spot there than

1020
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 14: maybe people externally would think. And then you mentioned Rokwan Smith,

1021
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 14: whose teams up with Patrick Queen inside there and latlandside linebacker,

1022
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Speaker 14: and we talked to him yesterday actually for our internal

1023
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 14: podcast here the Lounge, and Queen is coming into a

1024
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Speaker 14: contract year. The Ravens didn't pick up his fifth year option,

1025
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 14: which is something that he kind of had to emotionally

1026
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 14: grapple with this offseason, and he's been pretty candid about

1027
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 14: Obviously that's a tough situation to be in, but he

1028
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 14: really feels that this sea and it's kind of his

1029
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 14: chance to put his mark to earn that big contract,

1030
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Speaker 14: you know, coming out of this year. So a contract year,

1031
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 14: he's very motivated there, but I'm excited just to kind

1032
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 14: of see all these little pieces that are coming together

1033
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 14: for this defense. I think will be interesting to see

1034
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 14: kind of how it plays out.

1035
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 12: I read a story that was really intriguing was about

1036
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 12: Melvin Gordon because a lot of teams were feeling calls

1037
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Speaker 12: about him, and he decides he wants to stay with

1038
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Speaker 12: the Ravens and he's on the practice squad. So why

1039
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 12: do you think he wanted to stay with the Ravens

1040
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 12: And what's his rules sort of look like for the team.

1041
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 13: That's a great question. You know.

1042
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 14: I think that running back is always a position that's

1043
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 14: probably more highly valued in the Ravens offense than you know,

1044
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 14: traditionally across the league. I think we've seen that be

1045
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 14: a national storyline this offseason of just running back kind

1046
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 14: of being at a point that's not as valued as

1047
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 14: it traditionally has been, as a lot of these guys

1048
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Speaker 14: are looking to sign big contract going into this season.

1049
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Speaker 14: But you know, the Ravens have JK. Dobbins and Gus

1050
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 14: Edwards who they're very high on both they feel because

1051
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 14: he's starting running backs in this league. But this is

1052
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 14: kind of an offense that uses them highly and so

1053
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 14: we've seen, you know, kind of late in the season

1054
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 14: that see dealt with injuries there. You know, they definitely

1055
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 14: want to it to be a position of death because

1056
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Speaker 14: we do rely on it so much. They also have

1057
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Speaker 14: Justice Hill, who's who also uses they use a lot

1058
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Speaker 14: on special team. So I think there's opportunity there for Melvin.

1059
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Speaker 14: Obviously with the new rules post COVID, we see a

1060
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 14: lot of guys moving up in the practice squad, so

1061
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 14: I definitely feel like he could see some game action

1062
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 14: this year, which and I think he feels like he's

1063
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Speaker 14: had a good.

1064
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Speaker 13: Fit for this offense.

1065
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Speaker 14: So interesting to see, like you know, what that looks

1066
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Speaker 14: like later in the season.

1067
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Speaker 12: Will be interesting to see, all right, Texans at the

1068
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Speaker 12: Ravens Week one. Cassie Cherigo, team reporter for the Baltimore Ravens. Cassie,

1069
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 12: appreciate the time see if they're in Baltimore.

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Speaker 13: Can't wait. We'll see Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, cannot wait. Might be a rainy Sunday. As

1072
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Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, it might be a rainy Sunday. So

1073
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 2: run games gotta get going. Short passing game got really

1074
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: focused on snatching the football, those kind of things. If

1075
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Speaker 2: the weather turns in that direction, which it sounds like

1076
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: it's going to. Man, that's going to get ugly if

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Speaker 2: that's the case. But appreciate Cassie and Deep of course

1078
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Speaker 2: for dropping by. When we get back to start off

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Speaker 2: our second hour, it's Texans oh G's Indie Clue is

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Speaker 2: gonna catch up with a Texan og A legend as

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Speaker 2: much as possible, And well, who better to start that

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Speaker 2: with than Jonathan Joseph. Now they did this probably a

1083
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Speaker 2: couple months ago before training camp started, but still some

1084
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Speaker 2: great stuff Indi Klue and Jonathan Joseph. As it's Texans

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Speaker 2: OG's next. Right here in Texans All Access. We got

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Speaker 2: one hour down, one hour left to go. Right here

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Speaker 2: host John Harris football and a sideline reporter, and I

1089
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: always love doing his shows. Don't get me wrong, but

1090
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: the Friday show is so hard in some sense because

1091
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: he gets so excited for a game on Sunday. It's like, man,

1092
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: let's just let's just get through Saturday, Friday and Saturday

1093
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: and get this game on Sunday. Man, come on, man,

1094
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: let's go. Let's get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. Absolutely,

1095
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: we'll get there, and we're gonna get there. But first

1096
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: we got to hear from texans OG's. Yes, it's gonna

1097
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Speaker 2: be a segment you hear either Wednesday or Friday. This

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00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: week is Friday, led by Indie Kalu. Indy sat down

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00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: with Jonathan Joseph. Now Jjo was working with the squad

1100
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: as one of the Bill Walsh Fellowship members, and I

1101
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: think he loved it.

1102
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Speaker 1: Now we'll see what ends up happening.

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00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: But that program is designated for just training camp, so

1104
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: hopefully Jjo will find his way around the guys. I

1105
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: talked to him earlier this summer after this interview, and

1106
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: I asked him about what he was thinking, and he's

1107
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: just such a natural leader. I think he had a

1108
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: blast as a coach. But you know, you don't want

1109
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: to always well, you can only know Jajoe could do

1110
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: pretty much anything he wanted to.

1111
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: Indy Kalu really could as well.

1112
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: So this is a conversation that these two had a

1113
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: while ago, talking about any number of things, and it

1114
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: is absolutely brilliant. Texans OG's Indy Kalu and Jonathan Joseph

1115
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: indeed take it over.

1116
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 11: I am Indy Kalou, and we have one of our

1117
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 11: youngest OG's. Matter of fact, he's a while a young OG,

1118
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 11: Jonathan Joseph, joining us here in studio for a few

1119
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 11: minutes to catch up with j Jo and see what

1120
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 11: he's got going on and talk about the upcoming season

1121
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 11: and do like we do. We're just gonna talk to talk.

1122
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 11: First of all, I told you this before, I'm probably

1123
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 11: gonna keep telling this to you. Congratulations on a great career.

1124
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 11: I've been a fan of yours from afar, from when

1125
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 11: you first entered the league and just the way you've

1126
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 11: carried yourself on the football field, off the football field.

1127
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 11: But just an amazing, amazing career. So congratulations on that,

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00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 11: oh man.

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00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.

1130
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 5: You know.

1131
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 15: Obviously, you know I'm a fan of the game of football,

1132
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 15: so I've always been able to follow everybody, and you know,

1133
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 15: obviously watching you throughout the league, your time here. You know,

1134
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 15: you guys at the standard for the Houston Texans, and

1135
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 15: I think it's always about building off of that culture.

1136
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 15: And I think, you know, when I got here it

1137
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 15: still was a fairly new franchise and growing off what

1138
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 15: you guys did from a strong defensive minded team, trying

1139
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 15: to put the pieces around guys like Andre Johnson, Arian Foster,

1140
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 15: Matt shopping them guys. Our job was to carry the

1141
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 15: team as much as we could until we make that

1142
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 15: transition period. And I think, you know, that's what it

1143
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 15: was part of for me, and just coming in embracing

1144
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 15: the culture of Texas football itself.

1145
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 11: You know, you bring up Texas football kind of talk

1146
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 11: about your early days high school football, what that was like,

1147
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 11: and it just your story to get to, you know,

1148
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 11: from going on to be in a first round pick

1149
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 11: to your story career.

1150
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 5: What was it like?

1151
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 11: What was it like for early Jonathan Joseph middle school,

1152
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 11: high school years?

1153
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 6: Oh? Man, I guess I was a late bloomer.

1154
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

1155
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 15: I wouldn't even honestly say I was a late boom.

1156
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 15: I didn't have the exposure, you know, for whatever reason

1157
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 15: it was. I come from a rich town of football.

1158
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 15: We actually just went to the state house and got

1159
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 15: our name changed to Football City, USA. Down in rock Hill,

1160
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 15: South Carolina, a small town about seventy thousand. My high

1161
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 15: school alone has six first round picks, you know, the

1162
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 15: likes of Jeff Burrs, Rick Samford, Benjamin Watson, Caderra Pattison, myself,

1163
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 15: same hometown that produced Jadevion Clowney, stuff on and give more,

1164
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 15: Chris Hope, all these guys, Mason Rudolph, you can go

1165
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 15: down the list. So it's a lot of athletics growing up,

1166
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 15: and it's a lot of competition and that's what I

1167
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 15: seen growing up. And then you know, to get into

1168
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 15: high school to carry the tradition of just we always

1169
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 15: had guys on defensive side of the ball.

1170
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: Not many guys played offense.

1171
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 15: And the famous thing in my high school they want

1172
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 15: a state championship, two to nothing, block the game, winn

1173
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 15: and field goal. So you know, it was defensing me

1174
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 15: from a very young age and that's all I was

1175
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 15: breeding upon and I just wanted to carry that mentality.

1176
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 15: And you know, throughout my high school career, I was

1177
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 15: All State, made the North Carolina South Carolina All Star Team,

1178
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 15: things like that, but I still didn't.

1179
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 6: Have the big offers, you know, like I expected to have.

1180
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 15: Was top athlete my school, played basketball track, but still

1181
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 15: didn't have an opportunity. So I went to junior college first,

1182
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 15: took that route, worked on my grades, and when I

1183
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 15: left junior college, obviously a junior college. You woke me

1184
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 15: up also because it showed me that there was other

1185
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 15: talent out there other than the talent that was just

1186
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 15: in my hometown. Although we had the rich culture of

1187
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 15: sports and competition, it's still a next level to everything.

1188
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 15: And I think going to junior college being around guys

1189
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 15: like Derrick Shropshire, Brandon Jacobs rest in peace of Damien Nash.

1190
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 15: My defensive backfield, we had Randy Kelly, but two of

1191
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 15: bigger names with the Shaun Goson and Reggie Nelson, so

1192
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 15: he was in the same you know, defensive backfield in

1193
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 15: junior college. So I was able to look across and

1194
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 15: see a guy that was just as good as me.

1195
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 15: We were able to push each other and I left

1196
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 15: with about twenty five thirty offers and from there got

1197
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 15: to South Carolina.

1198
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Speaker 6: Day one was a starter. Worked my way.

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Speaker 15: I earned Most Improved Defensive Back when I first got there,

1200
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 15: which I always tell people because I think it starts

1201
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 15: in the off season. Broke my foot my first year

1202
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 15: there and from there worked hard again the next off

1203
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 15: season and I won most out Standing Defensive Back in

1204
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 15: the spring, so you know, it was the same work.

1205
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 15: And then that year there I was able to produce

1206
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 15: good enough season while I left as an underclassman as

1207
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 15: a junior to the NFL draft, and I think the

1208
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 15: rest was kind of history. But it was a lot

1209
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 15: of work put up in between there. But once I

1210
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 15: kind of had my mind set up in my mine

1211
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 15: made on what I wanted out my career, and when

1212
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 15: I wanted to try to do, I just had to

1213
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 15: put the work in.

1214
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 5: There's so much there to unpack.

1215
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 11: It's funny you talked about your high school having not

1216
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 11: six guys in the NFL but six first round picks,

1217
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 11: And I'm from San Antonio, and you know, growing up

1218
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 11: in Texas, we think we're all about football my high schools. Myself,

1219
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 11: Priest Holmes went to the league. I was a fifth

1220
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 11: round pick. He wasn't even drafted, and that was a

1221
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 11: big deal. And for your high school have six first

1222
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 11: round First of all, y'all's weight room better be off

1223
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 11: the chain or all y'all cheap ya. If y'all's weight

1224
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 11: room ain't the best weight room in the city.

1225
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 6: One man can't be responsible.

1226
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 5: I'm blaming you and everybody else.

1227
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 11: So but that's like, because I'm a huge high school

1228
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 11: football fan, I just I love football.

1229
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like you.

1230
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 11: I've been a fan of the game and I just

1231
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 11: love the sport. But and that small town to produce

1232
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 11: even when I played, like Fred Davis done to Robinson,

1233
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 11: I'm like South Carolina. We're all these cats, you know,

1234
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 11: coming from South Carolina. Like there is something there where

1235
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 11: would you say it's a football state or is a

1236
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 11: baseball first? And y'all just have the talent because when

1237
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 11: we think high school football, we're a little pretentious. It's

1238
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 11: all about Texas. But per Capitol, y'all putting out some numbers.

1239
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 15: I think it's definitely a football state for sure, you know.

1240
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 15: But my hometown, the biggest revenue is sports, you know,

1241
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 15: whether it's from Little League, whether it's from basketball, baseball, BMX,

1242
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 15: bike riding, kayaking, whatever it is. So it's just competitive

1243
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 15: all around the board down there. Then you go to

1244
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 15: some of the lower country, you know, they even more

1245
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 15: competitive because they don't have access to certain things, you know,

1246
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 15: so they put a lot of time into training, being tough,

1247
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 15: whatever it is. And a lot of these kids get

1248
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 15: looked over over times to where you know, like our

1249
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 15: basketball icons are Kevin Garnet, ray Allen those guys are

1250
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 15: from South Carolina but went to you know schools outside.

1251
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 15: You know, Jermaine O'Neil from Columbia, South Carolina, Alex English,

1252
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 15: some of those guys, but Jermaine O'Neil, those guys in

1253
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 15: my age, Raymond Felton. So we don't have many because

1254
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 15: North Carolina to me is more of a basketball state.

1255
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 15: You have the prestigious schools and all those there in

1256
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 15: North Carolina. But for us, it was all about football,

1257
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 15: you know, growing up, and we had examples in front

1258
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 15: of us to see, you know, like Chris Hope was

1259
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 15: the biggest guy.

1260
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say the biggest guy, but from my era.

1261
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 6: He's four years older than me.

1262
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 15: But looking up, I just remember his eighth grade middle

1263
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 15: school team undefeated, unscored on so he just always was

1264
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 15: chasing things like that. He was the number one defensive

1265
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 15: back in the country, number three running back in the

1266
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 15: country at the same time. So just seeing those examples,

1267
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 15: you're just willing to go out there and work hard,

1268
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 15: just to give it a shot and knowing that it's

1269
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 15: something past high school football but it's not going to

1270
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 15: be easy. But at the same time, just creating that

1271
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 15: bond amongst the guys and just pushing one another.

1272
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 5: You said something else.

1273
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 11: I wanted to dig in because you experienced it not

1274
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 11: too long ago. And I know I'm late to the party,

1275
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 11: but I became a huge fan of Last Chance You

1276
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 11: and just seeing the route going from JUCO to the

1277
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 11: big program Some of these guys went from the big

1278
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 11: programs JUCO then back up. But one thing I noticed,

1279
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 11: and I can't wait to hear your experience. You gotta

1280
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 11: really love football to stick it out, because maybe it's

1281
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 11: the editing, but it just seemed like so many of

1282
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 11: the guys there when things didn't go their way, they

1283
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 11: were just ready to leave. You know, the facilities weren't

1284
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 11: the best, big games didn't have that many people. So

1285
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 11: can you kind of talk about like did you ever

1286
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 11: think yourself out this isn't for me, or what your

1287
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 11: experience was like at the JUCO before you went off

1288
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 11: to a big time, powerhouse football program.

1289
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 15: Oh absolutely, Man, if you don't love football, JUCO is

1290
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 15: not the place for you. JUKO is because, for one,

1291
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 15: you know, obviously you don't have the resources, so you're

1292
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 15: gonna be facing that challenge. And for me back then,

1293
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 15: I never even seen Coffeeville, Kansas. I got a bus

1294
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 15: thirty six hours, no cell phone, you know, so it's

1295
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 15: me and my cousin. So got dropped off at a

1296
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 15: muffler dealership. Waited about an hour till somebody come pick

1297
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 15: you up, you know. So then you look on last

1298
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 15: chance you's The rules are different. When I played, it

1299
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 15: was a fifty five man team, forty three guys from Kansas,

1300
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 15: twelve guys from out of state. Now it's unlimited, no

1301
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 15: out of state rule. So when I get out there,

1302
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 15: we had sixteen out of state corners. I was the

1303
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 15: only out of state corner they kept that made the

1304
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 15: roster out of them twelve guys, and most of those

1305
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 15: twelve guys were the skill guys, you know, And it

1306
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 15: was just a competitive roster. We sent like twenty some

1307
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 15: guys a Division one. But out of those twenty some guys,

1308
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 15: it probably another fifty guys, twenty five guys that probably

1309
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 15: could have went. The guys like my first week there,

1310
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 15: my first my two weeks there, I read shirt.

1311
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 6: In my first year there, I was upset, mad, called

1312
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 6: my mama.

1313
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 15: I'm ready to leave, come back home, go to Division two,

1314
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 15: Division three, because these coaches want me I'm upset. That

1315
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 15: ain't what I was told on the phone. And then

1316
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 15: over time you just started to meet guys you know,

1317
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 15: that love football just like you, and it's all the same.

1318
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 15: You don't even look at your conditions to where I

1319
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 15: had guys come in there. Some guys couldn't stay two days,

1320
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 15: never unpacked the bags, like dang. Then you look up,

1321
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 15: he's running back at Oklahoma, you know. So it's just

1322
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 15: different ways. Then you look up, some guys just pack

1323
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 15: up and leave and just never get into football again.

1324
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 15: So I think it's a challenge within itself. But I

1325
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 15: think the program with the right coaches, because those coaches.

1326
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 6: Have to love football too.

1327
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 15: A lot of those coaches living in the dorms with

1328
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 15: the players not making twenty no, not making seventy five thousand,

1329
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 15: two hundred three hundred thousand, These coaches making thirty thousand,

1330
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 15: you know, living every day to day lives just like

1331
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 15: a college kid almost. So I think being in those

1332
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 15: right environments and having coaches that want to see you

1333
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 15: get past that and see you grow as a kid

1334
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 15: as a man also, And I think we had that

1335
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 15: at Coffelville.

1336
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 6: We had great examples.

1337
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 15: Brandon Jacobs was the running back there, so we had

1338
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 15: people to look up to and examples, and I think

1339
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 15: it was just about choosing the right path.

1340
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 5: So how many years were you there altogether?

1341
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 15: Three semesters. Three semesters they give you can be there.

1342
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 15: You can be there for like two years, okay, but

1343
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 15: you can go to summer school. And when out there

1344
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 15: you had to graduate. So basically have sixty four hours,

1345
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 15: and you get to sixty four hours, you can get

1346
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 15: up out of there.

1347
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 11: So you restired it. Then you balled out. I'm assuming

1348
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 11: because you had so many offers. Then as soon as

1349
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 11: the season was over, you.

1350
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 6: Left in the spring, okay.

1351
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 15: And the biggest thing, you know, coming out of Juco,

1352
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 15: you want to leave in the spring so you able

1353
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,959
Speaker 15: to do spring football when you get on campus because

1354
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 15: you come into summer, everybody been competing for spots, roster

1355
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 15: spots already kind of dictated. So my biggest thing is

1356
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 15: I'm leaving here in January, you know. So when I

1357
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 15: got to South Carolina, I was there in January, able

1358
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 15: to do springball.

1359
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 5: Over twenty offers.

1360
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 11: What were the three schools that came down to and

1361
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 11: why'd you ultimately decide to go back home?

1362
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 15: Oh, It's funny now because like programs change over time,

1363
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 15: Like back then Oregon wasn't Oregon and then wasn't in

1364
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 15: and m Baylor wasn't Baylor, like but then would be

1365
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 15: the first ones that come in your locker. So you're excited, yeah,

1366
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 15: you know what I mean, like Oregon, like because Organ

1367
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 15: was just getting Nike, getting all that, but they wouldn't

1368
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 15: Organ when they had all these guys run up and

1369
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 15: down the field of all these yards to us. So

1370
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 15: to get Organ, you're happy, excited, but you're still looking

1371
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 15: for like Georgia or some of them. Then you realize,

1372
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 15: like George ain't coming to Juco, Limpson ain't coming to Juco.

1373
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 15: So then you're starting to see, you know, certain schools Kansas,

1374
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 15: Kansas State, South Carolina, Auburn, and then for me, it

1375
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 15: was more so just finding the right fit.

1376
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 6: That's particularly before me.

1377
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 15: If you remember, I don't know, but Dante I was

1378
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 15: in left South Carolina, Carlos Rogers left Auburn, i'ma Carroll

1379
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 15: left Arkansas, Kewyann Ratler left Florida. All the same draft

1380
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 15: and every one of those schools was one of the

1381
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 15: top ones for me because they all basically said we

1382
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 15: guarantee you a starting spot when you get here, and

1383
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 15: that's all I cared about, you know, because I already

1384
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 15: had a redshirt year coming from Juco. So when I

1385
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 15: got there, I wanted to play immediately. So for me,

1386
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 15: it was about best fit, best scheme, and South Carolina

1387
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 15: came down ultimately because it was close to home. I

1388
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 15: had a son at the time, and you know, Dante

1389
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 15: Robinson just got drafted, so I seen that, you know,

1390
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 15: before him, it was Sheldon Brown, Andre Goodman, other guys

1391
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 15: I played with.

1392
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 5: Sheldon.

1393
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 11: You talk about somebody who get here, Yes, true country boy,

1394
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,479
Speaker 11: that's my guy, no doubt.

1395
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 5: Wow, So man, small work. That wasn't Fred Davis there also?

1396
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 15: Yep, Fred Fred Fred Bennett, Fred Fred Benner. Me and

1397
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 15: Fred Bennet was the corners together. Fred Benner was the

1398
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 15: corners together.

1399
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, See this is what I love about football,

1400
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 11: even though I'm older than you and we just missed

1401
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 11: each other as far as playing together. You know, I

1402
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 11: played with Fred, played with too obviously. Then Sheldon Brown

1403
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 11: to this day, I think of him as, you know,

1404
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 11: the young pup when he got to feel it, that's

1405
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 11: what we called him. So I really and I'm not

1406
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 11: asking this question just to say, oh, yeah, you know

1407
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 11: it made me. But going Juco and not having the

1408
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 11: facilities as of South Carolina, do.

1409
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 5: You appreciate Did you appreciate.

1410
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 11: It more like when you walk in the building like

1411
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 11: your locker room, the stadium, or is it because you

1412
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 11: expected to be there anyway, you didn't really get a

1413
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 11: chance to appreciate it.

1414
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 15: I definitely appreciated it more. It's like psychological in a

1415
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 15: sense to me. Also because coming from Juco, you didn't

1416
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 15: have nothing. It was nothing like now, you know, we're

1417
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 15: trying to go to Hibbit's Sports or whatever to see

1418
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 15: can we even get some cleats for the game, you know,

1419
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 15: because they gonna come out and just give you whatever

1420
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 15: in the same little bit, you know, laundry bucket, pick

1421
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 15: it from there. And if your people ain't got no

1422
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 15: money or nothing like that to send you nothing, you're

1423
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 15: still playing in your high school cleats or whatever else

1424
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 15: passed down and you know, jerseys, whatever, and you know

1425
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 15: the showers that you're going to go in. You know,

1426
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 15: it's not nothing like a Division I school. So when

1427
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 15: I got the South Carolina, a lot of guys I

1428
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 15: think at that time we probably was still sponsored maybe

1429
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 15: by Russe or somebody. So they looking, Man, we won't Nike,

1430
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 15: we want under Armor, we want this.

1431
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 6: I'm happy because I got free stuff. I got all

1432
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 6: these snacks.

1433
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 15: We ain't got to go up here to the Walmart

1434
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 15: with the George Forman with the meat patties.

1435
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 6: You know, we ain't got to worry about it.

1436
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 15: We're gonna get player of the game to get a

1437
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 15: free pizza on Sunday. Between me, Deshaun and Reggie, Who're

1438
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 15: gonna get this free player of my cousin? They're running back.

1439
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 15: One of us is gonna get this free pizza for

1440
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 15: all the boys. So it was just different ways to

1441
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 15: look at it when you got there. So, you know,

1442
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 15: like for me, when I got to South Carolina, I

1443
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 15: was in heaven. Man, it's a nice place to stay.

1444
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 15: You can get your off campus apartment, they give you

1445
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 15: a check, they do this, So my mentality was different.

1446
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 6: Now I can just focus on football, right, you know.

1447
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 11: Right, So you go from Juco, you go to South Carolina,

1448
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 11: When did it hit you? When when did you realize, like,

1449
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 11: not only am I going to get a chance to

1450
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 11: go to the NFL, Like I'm gonna be a top pick, Like,

1451
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 11: when when did you start having those thoughts?

1452
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 5: In realization, I never.

1453
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 15: Really thought about the top pick, honestly, up until probably

1454
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 15: draft time combine time. I just not leading up to

1455
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 15: I just was working and just grinding, and then you know,

1456
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 15: people start telling you how good you are, and then

1457
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 15: you seening it in. They give me a second round grade.

1458
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 15: So now I'm like, all right, it's legit now, you know.

1459
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 15: But before that, like before the year, Like honestly, I

1460
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 15: tell people this all the time, Like I didn't even

1461
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 15: know who Mario Williams really was up until the draft, okay,

1462
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 15: you know, just because it wasn't like social media. I

1463
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 15: wasn't like all into it. I'm coming from Juco, so

1464
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 15: I missed all the recruiting process and all that stuff.

1465
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 6: So we don't play in the s ACC so.

1466
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 15: Mario Williams, you know, because I'm all in my world,

1467
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 15: I'm competing against it, Antonio Camarti, Mike Huff, all these

1468
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 15: defensive backs. So for me, it was just more so

1469
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 15: putting the work in, putting the time in, and me

1470
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 15: having the confidence because the confidence came from me seeing

1471
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 15: Dante c and some of the other guys who came

1472
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 15: back around I seen the way they move, seeing their

1473
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 15: stature in size and all that, and just kind of

1474
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 15: size myself up a little bit and you look at

1475
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 15: your attributes that you can run, you can do this.

1476
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 6: That's just all the confidence you need.

1477
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1478
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 15: It was a short period of time because I think

1479
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 15: I only played twelve Division one games.

1480
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 11: Now there's a lot of fast, strong brothers, but cornerback

1481
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 11: is something special, like what are the attributes to make

1482
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 11: a good cornerback?

1483
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 15: And you have to be mentally tough and you have

1484
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 15: to be physically tough. I think from a standpoint, you're

1485
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 15: not going to always be the biggest guy, maybe not

1486
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 15: the fastest guy, but you got to have some scraping

1487
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 15: fight in you because it's not the rules never gonna

1488
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 15: be in your favor. The ball's not coming to you.

1489
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 15: You know, everybody's watching. You know you can have a

1490
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 15: great game early on, one play can decide it and

1491
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 15: everybody in the football world understands it. But the higher

1492
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 15: level you up and everybody's watching, there's a lot of pressure.

1493
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 15: So I think it's just all those things just building

1494
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 15: up into one. Obviously, you have to have the athleticism,

1495
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 15: feedwork skill set, but I think just a true mental

1496
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 15: makeup of being able to see the game. Once you

1497
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 15: can see the game, it can slow it down to

1498
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 15: you to where you don't have to rely on your

1499
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 15: physical skill set as much.

1500
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 11: See, I'm not just saying this because you're in front

1501
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 11: of me. I've said it for years outside of quarterback.

1502
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 11: If someone asked me, what do you think is the

1503
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 11: toughest position on an NFL team, it's cornerback Because I

1504
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 11: never quite understood, and I've been a defensive guy my

1505
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 11: whole life, how you can line up in front of

1506
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 11: somebody who runs a four to two four three forty

1507
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 11: and you have to mirror him. You know what I'm saying,

1508
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 11: And I'm not paying her into you, but I just

1509
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 11: never understood. So for me before a game, I have

1510
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 11: to get sights, like I have to be like, you

1511
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 11: know what, this fool who's six six, three hundred and

1512
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 11: fifty pounds in front of me, Like I'm gonna chop

1513
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 11: his ass down, Like you know, I have to like

1514
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 11: hype myself up. But y'all have to be a little

1515
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 11: more what's the word, you know? Under control? You know

1516
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 11: you gotta like, so what's.

1517
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 6: Kind of control?

1518
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 5: Chaos?

1519
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 15: It's controlled chaos, and you think, and I think because

1520
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 15: like my son, for example, even like it's funny because cornerback.

1521
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 15: I played cornerback my whole life, but I kind of

1522
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 15: see it from the other side because I know how

1523
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 15: to attack a cornerback. I know what he can do,

1524
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 15: what he should protect, and how you gotta protect it.

1525
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 15: So for me and all these seven or sevens in

1526
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 15: high school stuff coming up with my kids, I'm all about,

1527
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 15: let's attack his ass, let's go beat him, because I

1528
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 15: know how to beat him. I don't care about his

1529
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 15: skill set. I just know how to tack him. And

1530
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 15: for me, I just put as much time and energy

1531
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 15: in learning what the wide receiver had to do for

1532
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 15: his job, Like why don't let him do this? He

1533
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 15: ain't even getting them, Okay, you know he has to

1534
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 15: cross my face if he don't the quarterback and turn

1535
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 15: his head, you know, certain things like that. So it's

1536
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 15: just about as much information you can pick up that

1537
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 15: you can put in your head to process that slows

1538
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 15: the panic down, okay, because you ain't always be in

1539
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 15: the best position. You know, you may be out of phase,

1540
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 15: you may be this, But the more repetitions, the more

1541
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 15: you see it and you understand it now, why everything

1542
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 15: is going that fast in the game, you already slow

1543
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 15: down because you can anticipate a little quicker.

1544
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 5: Nice.

1545
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 11: Now, what's the most enjoyable, enjoyable part? Like for defensive linement,

1546
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 11: it's the feeling of wrapping up a quarterback, knowing the

1547
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 11: ball still in his hand.

1548
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 5: Like, what's the most enjoyable part for all pro.

1549
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 15: Cornerback Everybody probably get up there and be like a

1550
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 15: pick six and all that, and of course it is,

1551
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 15: but it's just locking a wire receiver up. It ain't

1552
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 15: nothing better than that, you know what I'm saying, because

1553
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 15: you know, I just think about it to go out

1554
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 15: there and lock a guy up that all week long,

1555
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 15: the other team put all that time in practice to

1556
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 15: get him the ball.

1557
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 5: Then get.

1558
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 15: Up like, nothing better than that, because that's what you

1559
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 15: put your pride in yourself in.

1560
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. You ain't gonna win them all.

1561
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 15: But when you do win them, you know what I mean,

1562
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 15: No different than we go down in seven on seven

1563
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 15: in practice and we locked the offense up. You know

1564
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 15: they're mad because you know they want that period, they

1565
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 15: want to win. They'll go all day just to beat us.

1566
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 11: And the coaches for some reason always hold on let's

1567
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 11: running back. They making for the offense, so they're going

1568
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 11: to go to the offense has success. Who are some

1569
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 11: of the guys where you would say to yourself, Okay,

1570
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 11: I gotta, you know, spend a little more time in

1571
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 11: the weight room, spend a little more time in the

1572
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 11: film study, because you truly respected what they could do.

1573
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 11: Who are some of the receivers and you put in

1574
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 11: that extra time before the game.

1575
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 15: Man, Honestly, I was caught up in the air where

1576
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 15: I felt like we probably had more Hall of Fame

1577
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 15: wide receivers than and you probably can think of because

1578
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 15: I was in at the mid two thousands to the

1579
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 15: twenty ten, all the way up. You know, you think

1580
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 15: when I first came in, you had before they had

1581
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 15: you know, Hines Ward, uh my, just In hines Ward,

1582
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 15: Derek Mason, you know Clayton going against them guys, and

1583
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 15: then you had Brandon Marshall Laver Andess Coles, all those

1584
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 15: guys here there was at Buffalo that played at Wisconsin,

1585
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 15: Lee Evans, all them fast dudes, and Corn Bolden, Larry Fitzgerald,

1586
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 15: Chad Johnson, that bunch.

1587
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 6: So you just gotta hold Terrell Oh and still going.

1588
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 15: You know, Marvin Harris still in Indy, the other one

1589
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 15: that's the Hall of Fame, also Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.

1590
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 15: You got Stokely, you got your New England receivers, you

1591
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 15: got Roddy White, you got Joe Horn, you got every week.

1592
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to tell you. You know what

1593
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

1594
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 15: And then you got the transition where it went into

1595
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 15: DeAndre Hopkins.

1596
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 6: You I ain't even went to Andre Johnson.

1597
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 15: You just keep going on that list with them, receiver,

1598
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 15: Steve Smith, all them guys are Hall of fame.

1599
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 6: Ain't no week off.

1600
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 5: What makes a Hall of fame receiver? Route running.

1601
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 15: All above, But it's a guy that you got to

1602
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 15: me to me, is a guy that you got the

1603
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 15: game plan for and he truly dictates the game got

1604
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 15: and he does it weekend and weekend.

1605
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 6: Obviously you got to put the time over the course.

1606
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 15: Like you may have a guy that doesn't actually get

1607
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 15: into the Hall of Fame, but he's a Hall of

1608
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 15: Fame talent, you know, Like I don't know if Chad

1609
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 15: Johnson's going to get in there or not, but was

1610
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 15: he a.

1611
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame talent.

1612
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 15: Absolutely, we're seeing what he did on the field up

1613
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 15: and down, Like I've seen how he was able to

1614
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 15: dictate games and manipulate games and do that. No different

1615
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 15: with DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Johnson down the list. Like a

1616
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 15: guy that you know getting the ball and he get it.

1617
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 15: A guy that's winning and must win situations.

1618
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 6: That's a guy.

1619
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 11: Well you talk about Hall of Fame, you know when

1620
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 11: you look back at your career. I was looking this

1621
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 11: up probably last week because we're talking about the greats

1622
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 11: of Texans and ranking them. I know you had like

1623
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 11: eight tds, thirty two interceptions.

1624
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 5: I mean those are big numbers.

1625
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 11: Like I'm sure're gonna be put into the South Carolina

1626
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 11: Hall of Fame if you haven't already, the Texans Ring

1627
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 11: of Honor. Is that something you think about? Is that's

1628
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 11: something people whisper in your ear to where it's a

1629
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 11: thought people will you hear.

1630
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 15: But it's kind of like something that you can't get

1631
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 15: too high on and get your hopes up for because

1632
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 15: you got to understand as a process, Like I've watched

1633
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 15: guys before me who I think have had amazing careers

1634
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 15: and they've had to wait their turn for However, loan

1635
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 15: and you see some guys take, you know, different approaches

1636
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 15: to it, react different to it. You know, all you

1637
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 15: can do is just put the body of work in

1638
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 15: and let everything else take care of yourself. I think

1639
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 15: the more you beat yourself up over the game that

1640
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 15: you, you know, used to love and expect more from it,

1641
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 15: I think that's just the wrong approach. I think for

1642
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 15: me and anything that comes after me, putting that taking

1643
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 15: that helmet off is just more power and just you know,

1644
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 15: on into what I've done when I had the helmet on.

1645
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 11: You know, obviously I was never in that conversation. But

1646
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 11: the guys who are on the fringe, I feel like

1647
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 11: it's tough because, like you mentioned, anything that you get

1648
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 11: after this is just be ain't for blest. I hate

1649
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 11: the fact that guys that are close when they don't

1650
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 11: get it, it's it's like they're disappointed. But it's like,

1651
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 11: can't nobody take away thirty two interceptions from me? You

1652
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 11: can't want to take away eight tds, you know, from

1653
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 11: a defensive cornerback away from me. So that's the tough

1654
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 11: part for guys that are on the fringe, you know

1655
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 11: we're talking.

1656
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 15: About Honestly, Sorry, my thing that is the only thing

1657
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 15: with that is I hate seeing them make guys wait

1658
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 15: for so long, okay, and then you see some of

1659
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 15: these guys eventually pass away or whatever, decease and now

1660
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 15: they're getting it.

1661
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, I don't like their party.

1662
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 11: I'm with you. I'm with you, especially the guys you're like,

1663
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 11: he should have been exactly. And this is what I

1664
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 11: hate when they only look at stats like, no, look

1665
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:41,480
Speaker 11: at the impact.

1666
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 6: The impact.

1667
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 11: Now that's the that's the part I don't like is

1668
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 11: just looking at the stats. Like I played against Hines Ward.

1669
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 11: I don't know what the stats were, but to me,

1670
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 11: that's a Hall of Fame.

1671
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 6: Football, right.

1672
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 15: It's like Andre Johnson, like, yeah, he's going to get

1673
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 15: in there, but like, just imagine you can't see a quarterback.

1674
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 15: Don't make a difference, you know, because you put a

1675
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 15: Hall of Fame quarterback up there, he got Hall of

1676
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 15: got to throw it to somebody. Now you put a

1677
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,520
Speaker 15: Hall of Fame talent out there with that quarterback, come on, exactly.

1678
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: Man, that was a blast.

1679
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad we're gonna have that weekly with NDI Clue

1680
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: And of course this one was with Jonathan Joseph. All Right,

1681
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: we get back as I do every single week during

1682
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: the season on Friday with our second segment a second hour.

1683
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: It's time for the Picks Baby NFL predictions straight up

1684
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: and against the spread for fun, for fun, but it's

1685
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: always fun. It's a good way to talk about these games,

1686
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: to go around the NFL. We'll do that next right

1687
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: here in Texans All Access. What's up, everybody, Welcome back

1688
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: this Friday edition of Texans All Access. I am John

1689
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: Harris Football and all the sideline reporter for your Houston Texans,

1690
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: and this is the segment I love picks predictions against

1691
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: the spreading straight up for fun, for fun.

1692
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: F you n spells fun, but I love doing.

1693
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: It's a good way to go around the NFL too,

1694
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 2: and talk about the games that are happening that don't

1695
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: include the Texans, and of course AFC South games and

1696
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: things like that. So let's get my music going, because

1697
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: we got a rock and we got a rock fast

1698
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: because we've got a lot to do on this show.

1699
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: So let's start in Cleveland where the Browns are taking

1700
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: on the Bengals. The Bengals are two point favorites on

1701
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: the road. Joe Burrow's back and he's rich. He's the

1702
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 2: highest paid player in NFL history. I think the Bengals

1703
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: are better than the Browns, and in Week one, that's

1704
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 2: where I'm rolling. I think the Bengals beat the Browns

1705
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: by three, twenty four to twenty one. That covers the

1706
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 2: two Bengals win on the road and cover the Bucks

1707
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: are taking on the Vikings.

1708
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: I do not trust either team, to.

1709
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 2: Be honest, but Vikings at home, they're minus five, They're

1710
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: a five point favorite. I think the Vikings win that

1711
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: thing by seven or more. I think Baker plays okay.

1712
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: I think it's an under for sure, and I'm gonna

1713
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: go with the Vikings to win and to cover that

1714
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: at home. Titans taking on the Saints are three point favorites.

1715
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: I cannot pick the Titans, not a good conscience, So

1716
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: I'm going Saints to win that it's close. I would

1717
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: not if I was putting some paper on it. I

1718
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: would not pick this game at all. But because I

1719
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: do it this way and it's for fun, I'm going

1720
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: with the Saints to beat the Titans twenty one to seventeen, and.

1721
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: That covers the three.

1722
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: The Panthers are taking on the Falcons and another couple

1723
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: of teams. I don't trust Bryce Young the offensive line.

1724
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: That's just been ugh. Atlanta has been playing okay, but

1725
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: we haven't seen them all together.

1726
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: And obviously desmid Ritter is gonna be a big factor

1727
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 2: for the Falcons. I think I'm gonna go with the

1728
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: Falcons to win, but I think the Panthers will get

1729
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: inside that three and a half. That's gonna be a

1730
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 2: three point game twenty four to twenty one, twenty seventeen.

1731
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 1: I think it's something of that magnitude.

1732
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: Falcons win it, Panthers keep it close, ser than the

1733
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: experts thing, all right, Jaguars taken on the Colts. This

1734
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 2: one is in Indianapolis, which gives the Colts a.

1735
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: Chance Jacksonville's favorite by five. Hmm, boy, this is tricky.

1736
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: This is tricky. Anthony Richardson rolling.

1737
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: I mean, the Jaguars are gonna see that offense for

1738
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: the first time Texans are gonna see in Week two.

1739
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: I think that does keep the Jaguars kind of off

1740
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: balance a little bit. So I'm gonna go with the

1741
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: Colts to cover the five.

1742
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 2: But Jaguar are gonna get the win on the road

1743
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: and start this season off on a good note. It

1744
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: kind of stinks because AFC South is gonna win a

1745
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: game there and hopefully one's gonna lose. But then again,

1746
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: AFC South teams met the opener last year in Houston

1747
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 2: and it was a tie.

1748
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers taking on the Steelers.

1749
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,440
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa apparently will play but in Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh

1750
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: was getting all kinds of love this preseason, I mean

1751
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: all kinds of love. But the forty nine Ers are

1752
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: a different animal altogether.

1753
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna go with an upset here.

1754
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Steelers to win, and obviously

1755
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: with the win, they're gonna cover.

1756
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Steelers. They did last year against

1757
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: the Browns. It came out of the shoot hot. I

1758
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: think Kenny Pickett's gonna be a little bit better than

1759
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: brock Purty. We go with the Steelers to win and cover.

1760
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 6: Well.

1761
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 2: By winning, they will cover because they're the underdog here.

1762
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 2: Steelers at home. Cardinals taking on the Commanders. I don't

1763
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 2: believe the Cardinals at all. And no offense to Josh Dobbs.

1764
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: I think Commanders are favored by seven. That feels right,

1765
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: probably should be more so, I'm gonna go Commanders to

1766
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 2: win and cover that seven point spread at home with

1767
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: their new owner Josh Harris and Magic Johnson. Raiders going

1768
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: to the Broncos. Randy Gregory has said some things that

1769
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: he doesn't like about Mark Davis. The Raiders are sorry.

1770
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: Denver's a three and a half point favorite. I think

1771
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: the Raiders keep that thing close and you know what,

1772
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 2: Nah not gonna do it. I think the Broncos are

1773
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: gonna gonna win. In Sean Payton's debut, the question is

1774
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: the three and a half. How do I feel about that?

1775
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders are gonna get inside that number.

1776
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be close, twenty four to twenty one. I

1777
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: mean seventeen to fourteen, three point game, Broncos win it,

1778
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: Raiders get to cover. Dolphins taken on the Chargers out

1779
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 2: in LA in a three twenty five central kick. So

1780
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: Dolphins are gonna It's a late one for them, to

1781
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: be honest with you. But if I got a roll

1782
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: he had, you know what the Chargers I'm going. I'm

1783
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: going with the Chargers to win that thing and cover.

1784
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: The three Eagles taking on the Patriots. I think the

1785
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 2: Eagles get it done.

1786
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll.

1787
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: Hammer the Patriots, but I feel like a seven point

1788
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: win twenty four to seventeen is the key. That's Eagles

1789
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: covering the four and a win. Packers taking on the Bears.

1790
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm going Packers, Jordan Love to beat the Bears and

1791
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: cover that one and a half. Rams taking on the

1792
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: Seahawks without Cooper Cup He's gone to ir Seahawks are

1793
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: faired by five. I do not give the Rams a

1794
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 2: shot in this. Seahawks are gonna win that thing and

1795
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: cover the five. And then Sunday Night we got the

1796
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: Cowboys taking on the Giants. I think with Dallas fair

1797
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: three and a half, I'm going upset Giants to win

1798
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 2: and obviously cover that three and a half. Monday Night,

1799
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: that's the toughest one. Zaba taking on Josh Allen Bill's Jets.

1800
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: Buffals faired by two and a half. You know what,

1801
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: in game one, I'm gonna get this. One of the Jets.

1802
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: Can't leave up doing it, but I'm doing it.

1803
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: Jets upset winners on Monday Night football.

1804
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: All right, those are your picks and predictions. Coming up next,

1805
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: we got a lot to do. We got Denzel.

1806
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: Perriman and reporters Roundtable to finish up right here in

1807
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: Texans All Access. Man, we got a lot to do

1808
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: in this final segment of Texans All Access. I am

1809
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: your host, John Harris, Football and a side our reporter,

1810
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 2: and so glad you've been with me this evening.

1811
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: We had such great stuff.

1812
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: Just gave you my picks for every NFL game and

1813
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: being honest as I am, I would have missed last night.

1814
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: Now. I did make my.

1815
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: Selection before Kelsey was hurt, so I didn't go back

1816
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: and change it at that point. But yeah, you probably

1817
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: would have changed it. I would have changed it after Kelsey.

1818
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I would have had the Lions winning,

1819
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: but I would had the Lions covering. So I'm being honest.

1820
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm being honest. I missed the pig, but man, Kelsey

1821
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: was a huge loss and Canarius Tony may have just

1822
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: dropped another pass.

1823
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: My god.

1824
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: It was an awful outing for the former Florida Gator.

1825
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 2: There was one tweet that kind of got me. It said, well,

1826
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 2: I think it was Bucky Brooks NFL Network. He said, well,

1827
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: what could you expect the guy missed all of practice?

1828
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they don't play him if.

1829
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: He missed all practice like we mentioned earlier, Jimmy Ward

1830
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 2: missed all of practice this week. Don't play him, that's

1831
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 2: it's that ready, then don't play him. Well, they played him.

1832
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 2: Then there are no excuses if a guy's playing a game,

1833
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: no excuses. I should have caught those well, I mean

1834
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 2: those were easy catches. Was as if he had to

1835
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: lay out for those. So either way, Lions wan to

1836
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 2: know Chiefs own one. But we did all this Dick's

1837
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: last segment. This segment, boy, we got a lot to do. First,

1838
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: we're gonna catch up with Denzel Perriman for a little

1839
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 2: Drew's dozen.

1840
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: Let's go Drew.

1841
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 7: Denzel Perriman, linebacker for the Houston Texans. You were the

1842
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 7: third Coral Gables High school Cavalier to.

1843
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 10: Play for this franchise. Do you know who the other

1844
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 10: two are?

1845
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 8: The third?

1846
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, you didn't play with these other players necessarily the

1847
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 7: third third Sharp.

1848
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 10: Darryl Sharp.

1849
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 5: It is correct.

1850
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 7: There's another guy who's he's been in the league lately.

1851
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 7: I think he might still be in the league. Buddy

1852
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 7: Howell played running back.

1853
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 8: My god, buddy is my cousin. So that's kind of.

1854
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 10: Okay.

1855
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 7: So that's pretty amazing in itself. You got two guys there,

1856
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 7: but let's reel off who else has been there? Jonathan Vilma,

1857
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 7: Frank Gore, way back, a guy who kicked in Houston

1858
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 7: for the Oilers, Al del Greco, and you. Hey, I

1859
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 7: was talking with one of your fellow linebackers, Jake Hansen.

1860
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 7: He said, you got to ask him about his dogs.

1861
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 7: What's the deal with your dogs?

1862
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 8: So? I have four dogs, like adult dogs, three.

1863
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 9: Girls, one boy, and one of my dogs is dropped

1864
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 9: like nine puppies.

1865
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 10: Whoa what type of dogs?

1866
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 8: Hits pitts?

1867
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 10: Okay, how long you been with these dogs?

1868
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 9: We had these dogs for what three years?

1869
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 8: But I've gotten a dog part like every year.

1870
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, now, he said, I bet Denzel doesn't have to

1871
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 7: pick up all the poop after them.

1872
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 10: Do you have somebody doing that for you?

1873
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 5: I do, I left you.

1874
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 9: I do, but like days when I'm not being lazy,

1875
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 9: like if I let them out, they you know, use

1876
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 9: the bathroom all that good stuff, then I pick it up.

1877
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 10: Do you take them for a walk or do they

1878
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 10: take you.

1879
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 9: For a walk when somebody else taking for Yeah, I

1880
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 9: got a dog walking man, like when I'm here, like

1881
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 9: they just be sitting at the house in the case.

1882
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 9: So I have somebody you know actually like literally come

1883
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 9: like walk them and do all that good stuff.

1884
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 10: Now when you're just hanging around the house, are they

1885
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 10: hanging out with you?

1886
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:51,919
Speaker 8: It all depends.

1887
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 9: The boy dog doesn't know how to stop humping like

1888
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 9: the girl dogs. Like literally one dog is always in heat.

1889
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 9: So I'd be feeling bad, you know of like having

1890
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 9: him out.

1891
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 8: And the girls in the cage. So I'll just leave

1892
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 8: him in the cage and have the girls out.

1893
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 10: I got you, do they hang out on the couch

1894
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 10: with you at all?

1895
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 8: I try to keep him off the furniture. Yeah, I

1896
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 8: try to keep them out the furniture.

1897
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 10: You're a responsible dog owner, so you're not like me.

1898
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 7: We got we got wiener dogs and sometimes we'll be

1899
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 7: pillow forts and stuff. So Denzel, you win as far

1900
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 7: as the dog ownership there and discipline. Okay, which of

1901
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,879
Speaker 7: your teammates needs to have a dog in his life?

1902
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 8: Who needs to have a dog? Man?

1903
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 7: Because I've got coworkers that I know they don't have dogs.

1904
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 7: It's like they need a dog reason this reason and

1905
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 7: that reason.

1906
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 8: I don't know. Does Jake have a dog? I'm Hanson handsOn.

1907
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 10: I don't think he does.

1908
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 8: He might need a dog.

1909
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 10: Jake needs a dog.

1910
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 9: Sometimes Jake be walking around like, you know, he's lost

1911
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 9: his best friend or something.

1912
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 8: So what I'm saying, he might need a dog or

1913
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 8: a fish or something.

1914
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:44,879
Speaker 10: Okay?

1915
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 8: Or fish?

1916
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, what type of fish?

1917
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 8: You got some.

1918
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 9: African sick lids? And in my room it's like a

1919
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 9: salt water tank. There's a nemo in there and.

1920
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 8: Some other two fish and the cleaning shrip.

1921
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 7: Pardon my egance, what's a cickle? Is that a big fish?

1922
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 7: Little fish?

1923
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 9: Like a little small fish. I guess they're supposed to

1924
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 9: get big at some point, but it's it's like a

1925
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 9: community tank. So it's like a lot of different fishtack

1926
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,600
Speaker 9: and somewhat mingle together.

1927
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 10: Piples, fish, anything else the other.

1928
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 7: Right, all right, your cheap meal is what when you're

1929
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 7: just eating what you want to eat, you don't have

1930
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 7: to worry about, you know, the calories and what this is?

1931
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: What are you eating?

1932
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 8: I don't worry about that period, So honestly eat anything.

1933
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 10: So every meal is a cheap meals.

1934
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 9: And other day I had like four pounds of crab legs.

1935
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 9: Yesterday I had wings and lobster bites. To day I

1936
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 9: might have pasta like it varies what you're going to

1937
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 9: move for. I mean this this Texans heat is a

1938
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 9: little different, so you out everything you eat.

1939
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, we got the market corner on heat and humidity

1940
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 10: in this town. It's no joke.

1941
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 7: Which is better? You've had five picks in your career,

1942
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,959
Speaker 7: But which is better? A strip sack or an interception?

1943
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 8: I like the interception, say interception.

1944
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 9: I mean, don't get me wrong, that both turnovers, but

1945
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 9: sometimes the interception, like it just it's like it's like

1946
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 9: a momentum change.

1947
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 10: I say, interception, interception.

1948
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 7: Okay, nine years in the NFL now still searching for

1949
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 7: that first touchdown.

1950
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 10: It's coming this year. So when you score, how are

1951
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 10: you going to celebrate?

1952
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 8: I have no idea, no idea.

1953
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 9: Like I always said, I had like an ideal celebration.

1954
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 9: But every time, you know, I make a play or

1955
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 9: something like that I thought about doing, I just do

1956
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 9: like the.

1957
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 8: Old Tiger Woods, you know what I mean. So there's

1958
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 8: nothing crazy, nothing crazy.

1959
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 7: Do you have any teammates from the past or maybe

1960
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 7: from the present that you've seen them celebrate a certain

1961
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:23,799
Speaker 7: way and you're like, I like that.

1962
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 10: That's a good celebration.

1963
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 9: Keenan Allen had a couple of little touchdown celebrations. Melvin

1964
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 9: Gordon has had some Max Crosby when he gets the sack,

1965
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,839
Speaker 9: like everybody had their own little Mojoe.

1966
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 10: All Right, I'll be watching. I'll be watching.

1967
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 7: I think you're getting in the end zone this year.

1968
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 7: It's I gotta feel it coming, Okay, manifest which, yeah,

1969
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 7: make it, just think it into existence. Which teammate of

1970
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 7: yours pumps you up the most.

1971
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 8: I'll say, Will Anderson?

1972
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, how come?

1973
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 9: Just his motor, Yeah, his motor just the way like

1974
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 9: he just go about it every single day and every

1975
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 9: play like kids, non stop. Like I said, he's just

1976
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 9: an angry guy that in general.

1977
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 10: I like that angry part that you've You've brought in

1978
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 10: a few times. Okay. On the on the flip side,

1979
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 10: which teammate is very calming.

1980
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 8: Say Steve, Okay, Steve, he's like the cool guy. I

1981
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 8: call him, like the cool guy. I mean, we're going

1982
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,679
Speaker 8: on here now, but like you know what I'm saying,

1983
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 8: he's just cool, calm.

1984
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 9: He keeps everybody like chill. Jimmy Ward's another one. MJ

1985
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 9: is another one. Eric Murray is another one. The whole

1986
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 9: DV group like a lot of them.

1987
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 8: Chill.

1988
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 7: That's a good call on Nelson. That's a guy who

1989
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 7: doesn't need a dog. He's he's got dogs, but he's

1990
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 7: got pecocks.

1991
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 9: He's Yeah, say Nelson's farm thing. I told him I

1992
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 9: got to come check it out in I gotta get

1993
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 9: some eggs.

1994
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 10: There you go, Yeah, yeah, eggs. How do you like

1995
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 10: your eggs?

1996
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 9: Scramble salt pepper, don't too crazy.

1997
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 7: I'm an overhard guy, A little salt pepper. Last thing,

1998
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:42,520
Speaker 7: what are your thoughts on ghosts?

1999
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 8: Oh, that's with him? You semester with him. I leave

2000
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 8: him right where they at. Believe I respect, Yeah, I

2001
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 8: believe all that good stuff.

2002
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 9: But I don't you know, I'll try to open that door,

2003
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 9: but none of that good stuff like that.

2004
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 10: Have you seen a ghost or experienced it?

2005
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 8: Ghats? And I don't want to.

2006
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 10: Do you know someone who.

2007
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 8: Has uh supposed they have?

2008
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2009
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 9: And I keep him from like, let me keep your

2010
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 9: ghosts and friends all that got stuff away from me.

2011
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 7: Do you want to tell the story or do you

2012
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 7: want to just like leave it?

2013
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 8: I get goosebumps.

2014
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 10: So well, Denzel Perman, this has been a drew dozen.

2015
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 10: It's always great to talk with you, oh Man, thanks

2016
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 10: having man.

2017
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 2: I love when Drew six is talent is into a

2018
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: a new.

2019
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 1: Victim, if you will. Denzel Pairman absolutely rolled with it.

2020
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's close the show down with this.

2021
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: Mark vandermir is gonna catch up with a couple of

2022
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: the reporters.

2023
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: In Houston throughout the year. We call Reporters round Table. Mark,

2024
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: take it away.

2025
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 3: It's the Reporters round Table, or should I call it

2026
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: Texans Beat?

2027
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 6: I'm not sure yet, but we can.

2028
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: Discuss that among many other things as Cody Davis joins

2029
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 3: us from Lockdown Texans and Texans Daily and Big Sarch

2030
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 3: from the Big Sarge Media platform which is a huge

2031
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 3: conglomerate and also USA Today is the Texans Wire. Gentlemen,

2032
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 3: great to visit with you as we go here with

2033
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 3: the Reporters round Table. First of all, general thoughts on

2034
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 3: the text taking on the Ravens. Here we are at

2035
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 3: the precipice the start of the season.

2036
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 16: Cody, I think this game is going to be the

2037
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 16: first of a learning curve, you know, I know there's

2038
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 16: a lot of citement around the city when you look

2039
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 16: at the rookie quarterback and CJ. Stroud, Demico Ryan's first

2040
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 16: game as hey coach, even Bobby Sloyd, that's the new

2041
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 16: offensive coordinator. I think this team is going to have

2042
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 16: a pretty good season, especially considering what they have to

2043
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 16: go through the last three years. However, I think this

2044
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 16: game is more so going to be like laying the

2045
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 16: groundworth groundwork on what this team want to be, not

2046
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 16: just in twenty twenty three, but beyond.

2047
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 17: What do you think, Sarge with so and you're just

2048
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 17: talking about this first game against Baltimore, is the season

2049
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 17: as a whole?

2050
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the first game against Baltimore, but maybe

2051
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 3: this's a little bit on the season as well.

2052
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 8: Well.

2053
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 17: I look at it like this, especially when it comes

2054
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 17: to this game. I'm gonna be honest with you, I

2055
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 17: think that the Texans are actually catching the Baltimore Ravens

2056
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 17: at a very good time because with quarterback Lamar Jackson

2057
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 17: learning a new offensive scheme and for the first time

2058
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 17: he's going to be without the wristband. Oh, he's going

2059
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 17: to be able to call some of his own plays,

2060
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 17: but he also hasn't developed that camaraderie yet. With Odell

2061
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 17: Beckham Junior, who by the way, hasn't played in almost

2062
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 17: six hundred days, you have Jay Flowers, the Ricky coming in,

2063
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 17: you have Rashad baby and who was hurt last season,

2064
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 17: and you may not have Mark Andrews. So for just

2065
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 17: as much as this is a learning curve, like what

2066
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 17: Cody said with the Houston Texans coming in, I think

2067
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 17: it's a learning curve for the Baltimore Ravens as well

2068
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 17: to get themselves acclimated.

2069
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 6: But with that being said, I look at it as

2070
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 6: this isn't.

2071
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 17: Going to be a barometer on where the Houston Texans

2072
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 17: are where they will be by the end of the season,

2073
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 17: but it is a very good test to start off

2074
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:43,799
Speaker 17: with a team that is supposed to be a playoff

2075
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 17: team by the end of the season.

2076
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 6: We'll get a chance to see what CJ. Stroud will be.

2077
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 17: I went back and looked at his first game against Minnesota,

2078
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 17: his red shirt. I think it was his redshirt freshman

2079
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 17: year if I'm not mistaken, but it's I got a

2080
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 17: chance to watch that game and he was a little rusty.

2081
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 17: You could tell it was a little nerves. I expect

2082
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 17: that from him on Sunday.

2083
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 6: Interesting.

2084
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 3: I thought, the first time he does anything, it's not

2085
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 3: as good as it would eventually be. OTA's early on

2086
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 3: versus late training camp, early versus late preseason, early versus late.

2087
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 3: He always gets better, which is a good thing, but

2088
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 3: that makes it this weekend difficult against the Ravens. Cody

2089
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 3: bigger concern Texans defense versus the Ravens offense or Texans

2090
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 3: offense versus the Ravens defense.

2091
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 16: I would have to say Texans offense versus the Ravens defense.

2092
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 16: And I only say that because, look, everyone knows going

2093
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,839
Speaker 16: into this game, the number one concern for everyone, including

2094
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 16: us here is the offensive line. You know, at the

2095
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 16: start of training camp, we looked at this offensive line

2096
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 16: thinking to ourselves, Okay, if everything goes right, this could

2097
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 16: be a top fifteen old line in the league. However,

2098
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 16: nothing went right as of right now, more so with

2099
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 16: the injury bug and you know, knowing that you're down

2100
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 16: three starters. The one thing that I've noticed since I've

2101
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 16: been covering the Houston Texans up coast and personal is

2102
01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,919
Speaker 16: is knowing how when you evaluate the offensive line, it's

2103
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 16: a lot that has to go into the camaraderie with

2104
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 16: your teammates and stuff. And look, understanding, I get it,

2105
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 16: the Texans have body and a lot of new players. However,

2106
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 16: I just don't think the chemistry and the caaraderie would

2107
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 16: be there this early for week one.

2108
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 18: So that's the biggest issue as of right now.

2109
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 17: I say that it's going to be the Texans offense,

2110
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 17: I'm sorry, Texans defense versus the Baltimore Ravens offense. And

2111
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 17: the reason why I say this is for you know,

2112
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 17: I just said about Lamar Jackson having to get build

2113
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 17: that type of camaraderie with his players with the wide

2114
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 17: receivers and get on the same page as in But

2115
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 17: the one thing that Lamar Jackson can do is be

2116
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 17: Lamar Jackson.

2117
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 6: And when you have him being Lamar.

2118
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 17: Jackson, especially once he gets into the mindset of I'm MVP,

2119
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 17: Lamar Jackson's gonna make it hard for especially for that

2120
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 17: front seven. And if they don't contain him early and

2121
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 17: let him get comfortable with doing the things that he

2122
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 17: likes to do, and especially with even though he does

2123
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 17: he hasn't you know, it's not on the.

2124
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 6: Same pageo those wide receivers just yet.

2125
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 17: But pitch and catch is nothing, and so they're gonna

2126
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 17: if they get to playing catch all day because he

2127
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 17: has opened up the defense and made them back off

2128
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 17: a little bit. Because he's able to scramble out of

2129
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 17: the pocket or there's there's gonna be a lot of

2130
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 17: design runs for him.

2131
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 6: That front seven has to stay disciplined. Will Anderson Jr.

2132
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 17: I don't think he's ever played against a player like

2133
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 17: Lamar Jackson.

2134
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,480
Speaker 6: So if he doesn't get his eyes.

2135
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 17: Too wide open as a rookie and stays in his lane,

2136
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,640
Speaker 17: I think that he'll be able to force some of

2137
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:31,799
Speaker 17: that back to the inside.

2138
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 6: But if not, Lamar Jackson could end up one hundred

2139
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 6: and fifty yards Russian.

2140
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 19: Oh, don't say yeah, because a couple of big runs.

2141
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 19: I mean John takes one or two, he's done it, okay.

2142
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:49,440
Speaker 19: In the AFC South, the consensus would say Jaguars, maybe Titans,

2143
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 19: and then Texans Colts. There's a mix there as far

2144
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 19: as opinions go, What do you guys think, Cody Davis,

2145
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:56,440
Speaker 19: you go first.

2146
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 16: I got Jacksonville winning the division. You know, as of

2147
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 16: right now, they do have the best quarterback and Trevor Lawrence.

2148
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 16: And when you take a look at you know, the

2149
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 16: additions that they made, especially when Calvin Ridley coming back

2150
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 16: off of off of the suspension that he served, and

2151
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 16: of course they you know, acquire him.

2152
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 18: I really think Jacksonville has a chance. Number two.

2153
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 16: I would say it's going to be the Houston Texans

2154
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 16: only because when you take a look at the Indianapolis coach,

2155
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 16: they are in a similar situation as the Texans, you know,

2156
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 16: rookie quarterback, rookie head coach. However, there's there's a little

2157
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 16: bit of instability going on with that franchise and with

2158
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 16: the Tennessee Titans. Man look understanding, they got d Hop

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Speaker 16: and I know we all still respect and love d

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Speaker 16: Hop here in the cee of Houston. However, I just

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Speaker 16: think if they ever had a championship window open, that

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Speaker 16: window is definitely cut closed and just thrown away at

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Speaker 16: this point.

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Speaker 6: Big charge.

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Speaker 17: So I will say this, I mean, yeah, Cody Calvin Ridley, huh,

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Speaker 17: it's gonna throw that right in there. But I look

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Speaker 17: at it as Jacksonville, and you know, I've had some

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Speaker 17: time to think about this, and I will say Jacksonville

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Speaker 17: because of their coach.

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Speaker 6: They have a coach that has championship pedigree, and.

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Speaker 17: He instills his mindset and his will and his attitude

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Speaker 17: onto those players, and you know they focus on being better.

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Speaker 17: If you look at what they did at the end

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Speaker 17: of last season and even in the playoffs. They were

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Speaker 17: one of those teams that got hot at the right time,

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Speaker 17: kind of like what the Detroit Lions did last season.

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Speaker 17: So when you have a head coach like Doug Peterson

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Speaker 17: who has won a Super Bowl, when you have Trevor

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Speaker 17: Lawrence who is one of the better quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 17: AFC in the AFC, but then you have that running

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Speaker 17: game with that Travis Etn, when you have Christian Kirk,

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Speaker 17: and of course, like you said, you added Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 17: That offense can explode at any time. And so I

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Speaker 17: have Jacksonville by because of those things. I have Jacksonville

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Speaker 17: over the Houston Texans, and I have the Texans over

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Speaker 17: the Indianapolis coach because that franchise is in disarray.

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Speaker 6: You have a rookie quarterback that's going to be good.

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Speaker 17: He's going to be Cam Newton two point zero, but

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Speaker 17: they don't with the uncertainty of the running game. You know,

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Speaker 17: you don't never know what Johnathan Taylor is gonna be

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Speaker 17: when he comes back after the four games, and so

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Speaker 17: they still have a lot of learning to do their

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Speaker 17: wide receiver court, and they have a rocky head coach, and.

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Speaker 6: You have the Titans at the bottom.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, just because the reason why I have like the

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Speaker 17: Titans at the bottom. The best thing's gonna happen for

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Speaker 17: the Titans this year is that they're gonna wear the

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Speaker 17: Oils colors.

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Speaker 6: That's about the best thing.

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Speaker 17: Other than that we may see, you know, Derick Henry

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Speaker 17: gid what fifteen hundred yards. I mean, we're used to that.

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Speaker 17: But other than that, their offense and their defense just

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Speaker 17: doesn't do.

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Speaker 6: It for me.

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Speaker 18: I don't think that's a good thing, you know, wearing

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Speaker 18: the Oilers colors.

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Speaker 6: No, No, well think they might like it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody in Nashville really cares. And that's

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Speaker 3: the thing that I have a lot against it, but

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Speaker 3: especially that for their fans, what do they care about

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Speaker 3: the Oilers?

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Speaker 1: Exactly right?

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Speaker 6: Tightans, be who you are. Yes, you appeal to your

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Speaker 6: own city.

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Speaker 1: You live there.

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Speaker 6: Now, stop focusing on us.

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01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 17: Stop wearing the Texans hoodie that's very good or their

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Speaker 17: sweater back in the day.

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Speaker 3: Cody Davis Texans Daily Lockdown, Texans, thank you, and Brian Bearfield,

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Speaker 3: Big Sarge USA Today's the Texans Wire among everything on

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Speaker 3: the Big Sarge Media conglomerate platform. Thank you, gentlemen, thank you,

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Speaker 3: appreciate Cody and Big Sarge for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: Mark of course, Drew Doherty, Denzel Perriman, I'm gonna miss

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Speaker 2: people along the way, Indy Klude, Jonathan Joseph, Cassie Sharigo,

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Speaker 2: DP City, Demico, Ryans, Mark vandermir Who did I miss?

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Speaker 1: I got everybody in this show.

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Speaker 2: I think I did what I was supposed to do

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Speaker 2: tonight and can't wait for Sunday again. Away party, Away

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Speaker 2: party at the Drift on Sunday for the game. So

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Speaker 2: make sure you get out to the Heights and check

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Speaker 2: that out. Other and I check out everything. We got

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Speaker 2: a Houston Texas dot com. We'll see on Sunday everybody,

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Speaker 2: and as always, go Texans,