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Speaker 2: To this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 3: This this morning combat Ay.

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Speaker 1: It's the first of them. Actually it's not. It's like

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Speaker 1: the seventh of June. I just like singing that song. Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome to a not.

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Speaker 3: So special edition of MK. They're on a Wednesday of

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Speaker 3: Fight Week on a pay per view.

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Speaker 1: A lot of folks seem ho hum about.

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Speaker 3: And we had technical difficulties so we couldn't go live today.

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas. That's Brian Campbell. We're the hosts.

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Speaker 3: How you doing BC?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Iron Sheek Dive. Luke. So it's been

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Speaker 2: a rough morning on all things combat sports. That legend

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Speaker 2: broke many men's back and made them humble. But I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to be here, Luke. I am not sitting here

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Speaker 2: under the auspices of gunpoint. I am just in a

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Speaker 2: hotel room in Verona, New York, ahead of Friday a

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Speaker 2: showbox the New Generation card at the International Boxing Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame. But you know I do look washed and ridiculous,

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Speaker 3: You look about like how healthy this show is at

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Speaker 3: this point, I mean, just running on fumes.

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Speaker 2: Look, if the Saudi's were willing to pay us, would

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Speaker 2: we do would we would we do the same thing

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Speaker 2: the PGA did?

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Speaker 1: Or what it's a good question. Would I turned down

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Speaker 2: I mean if data offered me the free flight to

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Speaker 2: power slap, what you know, what would I have done?

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Speaker 2: That's the same thing that those golfers are going through

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Lou Didn't the iron cheek also threaten to f someone's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that usually was part of the offer, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Not sure how many times that ticket was cat then, though,

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Speaker 2: you know if you know what I mean? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, Hey, legend the legend in this game.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, listen, we got a lot to get

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Speaker 3: to in not much time because we had a huge

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Speaker 3: started today. So here we are on the UFC two

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Speaker 3: eighty nine fight week. As I mentioned, and not necessarily

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Speaker 1: All right, do you ever.

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Speaker 2: Watch a controversial documentary like remember the Lightningly Murray one

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Speaker 2: on Showtime and his family didn't want to be seen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, except you're just lit, just enough to look like

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Speaker 1: Of milk, just the worst. All right, BC.

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Speaker 3: of course, with the obvious topic topic number one and

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Speaker 3: UFC two eighty nine will be in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I think the official date will be the tenth I

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Speaker 3: of our lower twenty twenty three B see the main event,

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Speaker 3: a bantamweight title fight between reigning champion Amanda Nunez and

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Speaker 3: Let's talk x's and o's First, what do you think

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Speaker 2: Well, look the women's bantam white division where this title

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Speaker 2: tougher fight in my opinion, Luke, and it's gonna come

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Speaker 2: we learn certain things from al Donna deficiency wise against

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Speaker 3: That varied, and it wasn't ever super long. But to

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Speaker 3: your point, like, dude, that was a really dominant display.

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Speaker 3: higher side for strikes landed two point seventy fives, that's

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Speaker 3: she's dishing at a much more noticeable rate. On the

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Speaker 3: style that looks really technical, and I do think on

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Speaker 1: Dude, someone like a man is going to blow the

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Speaker 3: So like, I think what you have seen and what

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Speaker 1: You could see giving Amanda noon As a lot of problems.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, Amanda Nuona is a much.

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Speaker 3: Better overall wrestler slash grappler, at least on top anyway,

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Speaker 3: going to play a role. Yeah, it's a weird one.

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Speaker 3: It's a weird one.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a good one. I'm happy we're having it.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm just trying to figure out, like a

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Speaker 2: Because there are levels and this division is not deep.

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Speaker 2: There's the elites, which has certainly been Amanda Holly Holm

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Speaker 2: We have had, yes al Donna entering on a nice

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Speaker 4: But it is the levels.

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Speaker 2: In this case of can she make that leap or

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Speaker 2: But I think we're watching Amanda Nunas coming fresh off

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Speaker 2: her boxing to an entirely different level by coming out southpaw,

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Speaker 2: Ale Donna certainly has better technique than Pania, but when

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Speaker 2: just the takedowns in the ground that ultimately lost her

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Speaker 2: that five round decision. Holly Holm did a great job

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Speaker 2: just did. So Luke, if this was Look, when we

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Speaker 2: of every UFC pay per view, we're sort of looking

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Speaker 2: at the what about this? What about this? The narratives

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Speaker 2: having more mileage. But Luke, having rewatched the first two

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Speaker 2: Penia fights, she still got it. She's still there. I

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Speaker 2: are just that justified. I don't think that narrative is

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Speaker 2: something I'm worried about. The age, the focus, the eye

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Speaker 2: had an emotional, thorough dominant win to show us that

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Speaker 2: it is going to be up to al Donna to

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Speaker 2: raise her game to levels that we have not seen yet.

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Speaker 2: But in her favor, Luke is the momentum she's on

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Speaker 2: with the docout, with the three knockouts in the four fights,

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Speaker 2: here we go. According to our friends at Caesar's minus

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Speaker 2: Donna Luke, is that about right to you?

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Speaker 1: Seems a little on the high end.

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Speaker 3: I think that you're right that there was certainly in

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Speaker 3: the redemptive performance by Nunez against Painia switching stances the

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Speaker 3: didn't really have an answer for it. Now, again, there

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Speaker 3: So there's a series of factors I want to be clear.

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Speaker 1: And then the moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be labor, but can we just

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Speaker 2: hit that one point right there? She had a knee

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Speaker 2: thought she would win anyway because she didn't hold Paya

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Speaker 2: which they eventually rescheduled, that I feel like she felt

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Speaker 2: She was, she was a walking mess. She fixed that.

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Speaker 2: That's over that.

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Speaker 1: Conversationally, she fixed that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm with you on the knee injury thing

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Speaker 3: I get like why I'm not surprised that she took

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Speaker 1: I get that part.

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Speaker 3: I noodle that, And I know what you're saying about

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Speaker 3: the knee injury getting right with the second camp, having

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Speaker 3: a better get a plant fair enough. But this is

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Speaker 3: all the movement we're talking about here. It's slipping as

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Speaker 3: you throw, as someone throws, or slipping while you throw.

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Speaker 3: That's just not like it's a it's a It seems

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Speaker 3: like an obvious thing when you watch boxing a lot

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Speaker 3: don't do it. She doesn't do it, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: to me, that's not cleaning up the issue more than

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Speaker 3: it is just working around it, and again quite successfully

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Speaker 3: because even from South Paul, she boxed Paina's ears off.

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Speaker 3: How many times did she drop her I lost count.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what the numbers are. But it's

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Speaker 3: not the same thing as like, I'm going to fix

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Speaker 2: I don't think there were problems Luke, because she's so

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Speaker 3: And let me just let me just see if I

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Speaker 3: running into Paina's jab by no technical fault simply due

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Speaker 2: Okay, not saying no technical fault at all. I'm just

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Speaker 2: once she surprised Amanda by starting to get off early

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Speaker 2: believe she would have and ultimately imploded if she had

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Speaker 2: Was my point. I don't think I was wrong to

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Speaker 2: say that Panya didn't deserve to be in that fight

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Speaker 2: and that we should have expected it to be one sided.

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Speaker 4: You brought a nice light of hey, guys, hold on BBL.

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Speaker 2: Or not, like nobody actually knows this is going to

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Speaker 2: be a run through. Let's get like you know. So

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Speaker 2: you were almost sage and on point, but it took

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Speaker 2: extreme circumstances for that to happen. She did not lose

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Speaker 2: that fight because she didn't move her head enough or

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Speaker 2: She should not have taken that fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know really what happened, she.

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Speaker 2: Wrote, Well, then what happened in the rematch, Luke, because

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Speaker 2: she cleaned all that shit up pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: She didn't do we'd just been over this.

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Speaker 3: She had to switch stance because she couldn't clean it up.

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Speaker 3: That's the whole point. Rather than fix what's happening here,

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Speaker 3: she just said, fuck it, We're just gonna go here,

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Speaker 3: and that's going to change the entire striking dynamics. So

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Speaker 3: this position is no longer even relevant.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 3: One of the problems with not be able to get

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Speaker 3: you want to rage into it and just try to

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Speaker 3: overpower the other person, it only makes it worse. That's

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Speaker 3: exactly what happened. So to me, I'm fully cognizant of

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Speaker 3: the fact that the knee injury we had a lesser Amanda,

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Speaker 3: and the difference in the second fight tells you everything

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Speaker 3: you need to know about that.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, But show me the other fights where you

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Speaker 1: saw a significant head movement, slipping and encountering at the

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Speaker 1: same time when she jabs from Amanda Neunz's record doesn't exist,

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Speaker 1: doesn't exist. It's a weakness of hers. As good as

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Speaker 1: she is, and she is the best I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: basically on the women's game, that is a weakness.

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Speaker 2: It's a question here because I respect your analysis and

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Speaker 2: I respect my white belt limits. What about the chess

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Speaker 2: match she won in the second fight with Chefchenko, even

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Speaker 2: though you and I scored that for Chefchenko, it was

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Speaker 2: We got rid of the thoughts of what happened against

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Speaker 2: uh uh, you know Katsanghano. We're past that. I thought

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Speaker 2: technically she she swam well in that one.

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Speaker 1: Luke, I'd have to go back and watch the second

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Speaker 3: I've skipped that one, so I don't have it fresh

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Speaker 3: on the mind. Perhaps there's a stronger argument there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I don't know have a

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Speaker 1: I don't have a strong one.

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Speaker 2: Was ponted on third down and you know it all right, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, But the point being is she definitely turned things

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Speaker 3: around in the second fight. And listen, a champion just

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Speaker 3: sometimes by hooker, by crook, but they figure out ways

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Speaker 1: On and he eventually won.

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Speaker 3: That's what champions do. They find ways to win, and

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Speaker 3: she did and it was pretty remarkable in the end.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, I just don't know if it'll come

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Speaker 3: to that in this fight. It's like, listen, al Donna

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Speaker 3: side like that a lot you open up kicks. I mean,

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Speaker 3: think about what she did to Holly Holm right, which

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Speaker 3: was separated a little bit further apart. You know, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what kind of range this one's gonna be

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Speaker 3: in because Holme's got more dynamic kicks and plays more

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Speaker 3: at that range than al Donna does, so that changes

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Speaker 3: a little bit. But like you know, you start doing

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Speaker 3: doing that. And more to the point, man, just going

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Speaker 3: back to it, I don't think Aldonna has bad takedown defense,

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Speaker 1: That like.

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Speaker 3: She can't get up, but I wonder if it's on

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Speaker 3: par enough to keep Nunez striking, And even if it is, is.

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Speaker 1: That even really a good idea.

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Speaker 2: That that's a big part of this fight because from

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Speaker 2: down with ease. Yes, there were times when al Donna

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Speaker 2: to defend it. But a lot of times Hollywood would

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Speaker 2: believe there's a part of this game plan for Amanda

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Speaker 2: that should and could center upon taking her down to

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Speaker 2: then in the time she's in top position, try to

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Speaker 2: top control. But if not, just plant that seat and

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Speaker 2: let it be in there. This is not Julianna Penne

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Speaker 2: where that's her strength so you wouldn't want to go

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Speaker 2: trouble there. I wonder if this could be something that

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Speaker 2: she finds success on. But this is where the three

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Speaker 2: years removed from the home fight for al Donna, where

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Speaker 2: has she made those advancements. The problem is Luke, not

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Speaker 4: So goodwins, but did.

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Speaker 2: Those show you enough of exactly where her game is

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Speaker 2: actually at to be a threat of against Amanda? We

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Speaker 2: don't know. That's why I like this fight on Saturday

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Speaker 2: and I'm interested in it, but she is going to

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Speaker 2: have to truly make that leapluke. Do you think we

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Speaker 2: shocking us with a choke out of the great Chefchenko.

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Speaker 3: I listen, here's the thing. This is the point I

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times you'll look at a matchup and

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Speaker 3: one of DJ's tougher fights in his reign, or at

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Speaker 3: least certainly more grueling fights. It was the Tim Elliott fight.

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Speaker 3: him and so but for different reasons, sometimes guys look

437
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,640
Speaker 3: at like who this person is and what they've done

438
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 3: and they're just like, well, there's really no way to

439
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 3: make this work that gets someone who is this good.

440
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 3: But dude, Pina, excuse me. Nunez will talk about the

441
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 3: angle about her family and whether or not she's in

442
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 3: a different place in her life now and to what

443
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 3: extcept that affects her. But more to the point, all

444
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,680
Speaker 3: al Donna has to do is slightly raise the level

445
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 3: of her game, while Nunez just be a little bit

446
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 3: off at certain things or just not have the right

447
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 3: game plan up front, and the whole thing can switch.

448
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 3: It really doesn't require a lot for a seemingly overmatched

449
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 3: title contender, especially as experience as this one, to have

450
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 3: just enough luck to turn the corner.

451
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and I do think that it's not

452
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 2: just the punching power of al Donna that makes her

453
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 2: your atypical title defense for Amanda here meaning more danger.

454
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 2: I loved they played a lot in the Countdown show.

455
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: It came from that press conference announcing this fight. You

456
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 2: remember that question that media member asked al Donna where

457
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 2: they said, what advantages do you think you bring to

458
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 2: Newness that media wouldn't have? And she looked in the camera,

459
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 2: as you said, and said Mexican and smiled. And you know,

460
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 2: we could take that as you know, machismo there.

461
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 4: But I think with the success of the Nation.

462
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 2: The iron sharping iron there at the Lobo Gym and Guadalajada,

463
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,400
Speaker 2: could that be something. Look I mean sometimes momentum matters,

464
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 2: hunger matter. Look at Penya. She does not win that

465
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 2: fight the first one, even with Amanda's issues. If she's

466
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: not willing to take all those big shots on the

467
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: chin and just walk through no matter what, are we

468
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: and the better the betting oddsmen, Luke underestimating the potential

469
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: hunger of al Donna think that comment because I'm Mexican?

470
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 2: Does that matter?

471
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 4: Is that different in this matchup?

472
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 1: I think it can. There's a lot happening here. So

473
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: on the one hand, she's been training with Grosso since

474
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: day one, Right, who just won a title that brings

475
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: a certain level of prestige and honor to their journey

476
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: and the gym more generally, this gym Lobo Jim shouts

477
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: to Danny Siguraff you've never seen his video, The Muhetes

478
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: of Lobo Jim, the Ladies of Lobo Jim. This has

479
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: been a gym in Mexico somewhat ahead of its time,

480
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: basically and not only being a gym that produces strong

481
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: outcomes for its fighters, but being a welcoming home to

482
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: female fighters not just from Mexico, but from Spanish speaking Latin.

483
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: Really more than Spanish speaking Latin America more generally La

484
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: from Bellator Luke. Yeah, exactly, and not just her.

485
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 3: There's been some other ones along the way as well.

486
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: This has really been a place that has carved its

487
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: own path, set on its own destiny. And Grosso being

488
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 3: the first one across the finish line to get that

489
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 3: UFC title.

490
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, part of.

491
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: The Mexican spirit, part of the gym spirit, part of

492
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: her competitor, or I should say, her compatriot spirit. I

493
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 3: am a believer that's stuff can lift you. I am

494
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: a believer that that kind of stuff can really Again,

495
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: all that has to happen is extra motivation, The game

496
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: plan has to work early. Someone has to be off

497
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: a little bit on the other side. And I know

498
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: the odds are far apart. I think they're a little

499
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: bit unfair in that sense, because I do recognize Nuna's

500
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 3: definitely more experienced at the high level and certainly more

501
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: skilled overall. I think that's pretty fair. Plus I would

502
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: say probably a heavier puncher of the two on top

503
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 3: of it. But nevertheless, I don't think I don't think

504
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: that al Donna is so far apart that with a

505
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: motivated performance, however you want to ascribe it to.

506
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: I do think that could raise her in a pretty

507
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: significant way.

508
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: Sure, sometimes that matters, and sometimes Luke was But then

509
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: again we're also I don't know, we're also Look, I

510
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: didn't think Rosso could beat chef Shenko straight up, right,

511
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: unless Valentina made a huge mistake, unless she was cut

512
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: unless there you know, the death Star imploded in some

513
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: on just way you never imagined. I didn't think that

514
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: was possible. I do give al Donna more chance on paper,

515
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: then I gave Grosso of straight up beating Amanda. Do

516
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: you think that's a fair statement. I mean, are you

517
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: talking about if if she does this, it's not because

518
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: Amanda has lost focus or didn't train enough, Like she's

519
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: gonna have to go. I believe she's gonna have to

520
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: go in there and beat the best version that's there

521
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: of this champ of the Lioness. Can she do that

522
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: straight up in your eyes, the same way that Grosso did?

523
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean by straight up?

524
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: Think Widman losing to rock Hold right, monster mistake that

525
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: set that up Chail versus Anderson too. Obviously, the pressure

526
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: is what makes the mistake happen. But outside of that,

527
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: could you see her beating her straight up?

528
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

529
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: Like boy, I answered that question like this, this won't happen,

530
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: so there's no ry to really know. But I don't

531
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 3: think of it as could it happen. The question is

532
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 3: if they fought ten times, how many times could it happen?

533
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 3: Three of ten? Write something like that, maybe less two

534
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: times out of ten. So for me, it's like, is

535
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: that the likeliest one that would happen on Saturday?

536
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: Beating her straight up? No? I think you really would

537
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: have to get Amanda.

538
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 3: I mean again, going back to the Painia fight me issue, whatever,

539
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: technical issues, whatever, lots of factors at play, But to

540
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 3: your point, she got pissed and made bad decisions in

541
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: the fight, which Painya was just kind of able to

542
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 3: overcome in the end. So like can al Donna bring

543
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: Nunez to make poor decisions in the middle of the fight.

544
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 3: If that happens, shit, all that's are off at that

545
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: point truly, And.

546
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Look, she has the power to increase the likelihood of

547
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: that happening, meaning sometimes you know, getting tagged can put

548
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: somebody on tilt, can bring out the exhaustion, and all

549
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 2: that does she have the hunger to push this, you know,

550
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: deep into the fourth, fifth round and do something big late. Yes,

551
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: she does, she does. I just questioned the ground game, Luke,

552
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: what is she going to be able to add to

553
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: this fight from a ground standpoint? But will that even matter?

554
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: Because it's not like you would say, Amanda is dominant

555
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: on the ground.

556
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: You broke it down earlier. If she has an advantage.

557
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: She can use it, but she's not really going out

558
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: of her way to bring fights to the ground.

559
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: Well, yes and no, I mean to your point, Like

560
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: the last time we really saw her lean on it

561
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: was the GDR fight and she needed it there, like

562
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: she straight up was losing on the feet. She needed

563
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: it there. Okay, fair enough, I think she's executed. I

564
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: think I read somewhere that she's got like thirty plus

565
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: takedowns in the UFC, which is a fair amount over

566
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: the course of her career. Listen, at times, she can

567
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 3: be a heavy ground and pound force. At times she

568
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: can be a heavy impress you against the fence and

569
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: just kind of drag you down and slow the fight

570
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: down force.

571
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: It's a question of like what al.

572
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: Donna can get away with what, Like GDR had nothing

573
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: for her on the ground. Al Donna's going to be

574
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: a little trickier underneath, but not so much of a

575
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: submission threat. I don't think remember Nuda's black belt in

576
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu, right, so she's obviously very good there as well.

577
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: It's again, I feel like in a few really important ways,

578
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: Nuda's is just better in a lot of spot But

579
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: the question is is like, where is she in her career?

580
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: How seriously did she take this? Where does her mindset

581
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: at now? It's kind of funny along those lines. Anthony

582
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: Smith spoke to Irijuani on the Mima Hour and he

583
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 3: made a point, I don't know if we're gonna be

584
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: able to play it. I think we're not able to.

585
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Play it, but we have the quote.

586
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: If you'd like me to read it, Yes, please read

587
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: the quote from Smith to Ariel. This is regarding the

588
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: mindset of Nunaz given what's happened in her life, all right.

589
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: Smith said, It's a very weird sentiment I have sometimes

590
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: when I see her in these fights, in these interviews,

591
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: and she's dragged her whole family there to fight week

592
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: and then she gets in and fights. Sometimes I almost

593
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: feel bad for her, like just go enjoy your life

594
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: and just go have fun, like stop doing all this shit,

595
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: because a lot of times she doesn't seem to always

596
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: enjoy it that much. I don't know. I just feel

597
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: like she's in a position where she can just there's

598
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: so much. She has a whole lifetime ahead of her.

599
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: Smith would go on to say, and she's done so much,

600
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: and again, like what else do you have to prove?

601
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: I just almost look forward to her to be able

602
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: to just go off and just do something else. Great.

603
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: I know that sounds weird. I mean I'm in a

604
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: really positive way. I mean that in a real positive way.

605
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: I just want her to be happy. I don't know. Look,

606
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I don't think Smith has any

607
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: you know, negative inferences in there. He's just saying, you know,

608
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: maybe maybe, look, she's already what else can you accomplish?

609
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: I do agree with that. If Kayla Harrison's not coming

610
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: through that door and we don't have some super fight

611
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: at women's heavyweight or you know, all these things we

612
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: can concoct. I don't know necessarily what's keeping her hair

613
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: beyond the fact that she can still do this. There's

614
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: good money, and she's really happy. Luke I watched the

615
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Countdown show. She looks really, really, really happy. Young Reagan

616
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: goes everywhere with them. Nina Nunas, her wife formerly answer

617
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: off as pregnant with her second child. A big part

618
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: of that Countdown show was her buying some property in Brazil,

619
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: out in the countryside with horses as like a family

620
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: retreat for her extended family. We got to meet her

621
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: mom and sister and it was just like this wholesome thing.

622
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: I don't feel that personally that the one foot out

623
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: the door narrative is in is in the case here.

624
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: You can say she had extra extra extra motivation to

625
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: pour it all out in the rematch with Payna because

626
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: she lost her title and lost her invincibility.

627
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I always felt though that that was a matchup that.

628
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: If things were even, it wouldn't be even. We saw that.

629
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be the case in

630
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: this part, and I don't think Anthony Smith is trying

631
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: to say negative. But you know, in the same preview

632
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: packages from UFC, we're seeing Benny Darry Hush, who's got

633
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: a big fight in this comain event, bringing around his

634
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: wife and kids and saying almost like I have to

635
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: do this this is this is better for me. He's

636
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 2: taking them to the park in Vancouver and walking them

637
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: all around.

638
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: It's athlete to athlete.

639
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: Look at the andre Ward documentary and showtime that just

640
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: came out. That's fantastic for him. It was like, I

641
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: have to go home every day after camp. I can't

642
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: be out like secluded and getting all angry. I have

643
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: to still be that person, you know. I think Amanda's

644
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: fine in that regard. It is interesting though, to Luke

645
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: to talk about. I think what is left to accomplish

646
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: and what does that end up leading to her taking

647
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: a loss too early. I mean, she just did, by

648
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: the way, but against Painya, but she repaired it. I

649
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: just have questions about the whole two division title thing, and.

650
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say one thing very quickly, and I

651
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: want to pitch it back to you on the two

652
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: title thing, just that for me, I agree with you

653
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 3: that it is very fighter dependent when you have the

654
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: families there.

655
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: A lot of fighters do it.

656
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: Some don't, really is up to them, but the ones

657
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: that do, some of them really benefit from it, and

658
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: maybe others due to a lesser extent.

659
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

660
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: The one difference between Daryush in this particular case with

661
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: his wife and kid and Amanda is that dude. Amanda

662
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: came here, she grew up desperately poor. She came here

663
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: was poor, and she has achieved everything basically that a

664
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: prize fighter can achieve. In the amount of time that

665
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: she's been competing. She has vastly increased her wealth. She

666
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: has etched her name into stone in terms of one

667
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: of the greatest fighters of all time. She has won

668
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: titles in UFC, defended them multiple times, beaten all who's who,

669
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 3: and now she returns to she's still this here. But

670
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: I mean she has the space in Brazil, as you mentioned,

671
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: with the horses and everything else is on the Countdown show.

672
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: It's this really beautiful life that she has made for herself.

673
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: My personal view is when you get to that life

674
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: stage when it's not just that you have these family

675
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: members around you, but that you've built security, you've built change.

676
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: Daryush has done well for himself, but he hasn't quite

677
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: built that. He hasn't built that. I'm at the next stage,

678
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: the true penal, the true ultimate stage. He's at the

679
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: pen ultimate stage, and I think that changes motive that

680
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: I should say this that can very much change on

681
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: person to person, how much true hunger.

682
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: They have left.

683
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, when you have money and you have

684
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: family and you have tranquility.

685
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: Dude, this is the This is this is this is happiness.

686
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: This is true happiness. And when you really have that

687
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: in your life, it does something to you as a person.

688
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: It changes you a little bit. Uh.

689
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: The only question is that hasn't changed her as a competitor.

690
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 3: We'll find out on Saturday.

691
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's fair to say we're going to find

692
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: that out quickly. Luke on the idea of Amanda still

693
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: being a two division champion. I think it's time now

694
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: we start saying out loud, like what are we doing here?

695
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: Amanda has not defended the featherweight title in twenty seven months,

696
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: just over two years from when she stopped Megan Anderson.

697
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: That was March of twenty twenty one. We know that

698
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: there has never been UFC women's featherweight rankings on the

699
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: UFC Ranking page ever, going back to when this division started.

700
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: I believe the first featherweight fight was the end of

701
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: twenty six or was it? The first title fight was

702
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: GDR in home right in Brooklyn one, but I think

703
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: there was a first fight before twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen

704
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: around there, Luke. Since that fight more than two years ago,

705
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: there has been nine featherweight bouts in the UFC, and

706
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm not counting schedule bantamweight fights, and there have been

707
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: a lot of them where somebody missed weight or somebody

708
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: you know whatever, and we had to do a Catchwaight.

709
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: There were nine scheduled featherweight bouts since then. In doing

710
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: the research of who were in those fights, I personally

711
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: believe there's only three fighters in this division right now

712
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty five pounds. In the UFC.

713
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: There's a Manda Newnist, the champion, who hasn't fought there

714
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: in over two years. There's Norma who has fought there

715
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: four times in the past two years. And then there's

716
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 2: newcomer Josianne. I'm probably butchering her name, but Josianne Nuness

717
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: the powerpot. You know, she showed a lot lately. She

718
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: has won both of her fights in that division since then.

719
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: The rest of them have involved fighters who are no

720
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: longer in the UFC anymore. I think, like Felicia Spencer

721
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, or it has involved one offs

722
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: where we had women's bandamweight fighters try one fight at featherweight.

723
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: In this case is Stephanie Eggar Joscelyn Edwards. They won,

724
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: but they went back down to bantamweight afterwards.

725
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: All of the opponents that.

726
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: They beat, Luke, every single one of them aren't in

727
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: the UFC anymore, or they have, like I said, going

728
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: back down to bantamwaight. This is not a division.

729
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: This is not a division at all.

730
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: So Dane always ultimately says, you know when they say

731
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: how long are you gonna you know, because they David

732
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: didn't make Amanda pick which title the hold like like

733
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: they made Connor, like they've you know, made other people DC.

734
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: This was this case where he always says, as long

735
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: as she's willing to fight, we're willing to do this.

736
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: This is not to crap on Amanda, but this division,

737
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: the second division is smoking mirrors. If we're not getting

738
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: Kayla Harrison and making women's heavyweight. And a reminder, Kayla said,

739
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: I can make one forty five if I have to,

740
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: I can't make it consistently. Can we shut this down? Look?

741
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Should we shut this down? I mean they could just

742
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: as easily, by the way, have Amanda defend against either

743
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: Norma Dumont, who is Norma is five and two in

744
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: the UFC and is riding a couple fight win streak.

745
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: Josean Nunez is three and zero in the UFC, but

746
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: it's won two fights women's feather way, you could easily

747
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: do Amanda against either one. I guess to keep it going,

748
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: But what are we doing here overall? Why is this

749
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: keep Why is this here with no rankings and no consistency.

750
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they kept it around for a

751
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: while to maybe they had different plans, and I think

752
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: now what it looks like is they'll sunset this when

753
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: Amanda goes. They're just going to keep it around as

754
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: like a ceremony or a trophy or thank you or

755
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: some kind of nod, and then when she goes, they'll

756
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: just the sun set it there. But I don't think

757
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna take away the belt while she's still active.

758
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: That's my best read.

759
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: Okay, but look here, with full respect, her knocking out

760
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: Cyborg is why she's the goat. That was the giant,

761
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: you know, whipped cream and cherry on top. Right, that's

762
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 2: as legitimate as a win as you could have. There's

763
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: been no division since then, Luke. Everyone she's defended against

764
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: is gone. Is Is there an overrated element even while

765
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: still being the women's goat? Is there an overrated element

766
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: at all to her two division title status?

767
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: Sure?

768
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 3: Sure, yes, I don't mind saying that it's not the same,

769
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: but this is not her fault. I mean, if you

770
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: want it to dock her saying what does it realistically

771
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: mean relative to any other two weight world champion? Fine,

772
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: but like she's not the one who can control what

773
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: the UFC does at Women's one forty five. So I

774
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 3: get your point that there's a little bit of empty

775
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: calories with it, and fair enough, I don't think that's

776
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: in any way unfair, But ultimately it's like, hey, if

777
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: you want me to fight one forty five, I'll do it.

778
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: They're just not really doing it from what I can tell,

779
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: So yeah.

780
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they're not doing it at all. Unfortunately,

781
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Amanda only fought one last once last year, and that

782
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: was the rematch with Panya, and I believe they did

783
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: the Ultimate Fighter coaching gig unless I'm incorrecting that, so

784
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 2: that may have played into that. But you know, yes,

785
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: she's she's fought somewhat consistently, but she only fought once

786
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty with COVID, So I don't know. It

787
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: just feels weird that we're continuing this down on this road. Bantam. Wait,

788
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: we do have a couple of names that are interesting.

789
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 4: There's a little bit.

790
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: Of life there at least. But yeah, yeah, that's all

791
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: I got on that.

792
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: All right, Let's talk about topic number two, which, of course,

793
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: is that co main event that the fans seem to

794
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: love more than anything else, namely Charles Olavera taken on

795
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: Benil Daryush.

796
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: I could not find any.

797
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: Odds at best fight odds except from the time they

798
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: were supposed to fight previously, and they had dar Usch

799
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: bother than the minus or I should say the minus

800
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: or plus one hundred range. Daryush is a very very

801
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: slight favorite. Ultimately, BC, same kind of question to you.

802
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: We obviously know what's on the line here. Winner, certainly

803
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: in Daryush's case, if he gets the job done, is

804
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: going to get a title shot. He was supposed to

805
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: fight Islam Makachev and ultimately ended up having to pull out.

806
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: Bobby Green took that slot, and so some of the

807
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: folks were like, oh, Makachev's not that good before the

808
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 3: Olivera fight.

809
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: Then he had kind of overperformed.

810
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: We're dealing with a surging Daryushu had a very tough

811
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: fight against Potatoes, Gamrot and one Olivera. Coming off of that,

812
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: Makachev lost a lot of factors in play. What stand

813
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: out to you is the most important.

814
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: Ones, the most important one factors in play in this matchup.

815
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like to determine who gets the w.

816
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of you know, I love

817
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: the first of all, I just love this fight. It's

818
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: it's the jewel of this card, which is I mean,

819
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: it's in consideration among the worst pay per view cards

820
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: in modern history. But this fight is so great within

821
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: such a great division, and it's one of those rare

822
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: sort of moments where both have like so much at

823
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: stake for their own personal lot at the moment. So

824
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: I think that that those storylines and the focus, the intensity,

825
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: the passion that's all going to come together for not

826
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: just an exciting fight, but a fight that could affect

827
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: the way this plays out because of those things. And

828
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: what I mean is Charles Oliver has talked so much

829
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: about that title loss being one bad night. Look at

830
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: the totality of his reinvention, the blonde hair, the finishing ability,

831
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: the fact that he walks right into conflict and creates

832
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: it and then you know is the one swimming in

833
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: the end. This is his chance, certainly to fix that glitch,

834
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: be right back where it needs to belong. And for

835
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: darry Use, he's that next guy in line who has

836
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: been in line forever but has such a lunch pale

837
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: side to the way he works and looks at it

838
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: that he always says, I'll fight ten more Number one

839
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: contender fights if I have to get to this point. Well,

840
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: it's not just the eight fight wind streak and recently

841
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 2: certainly stepping up the quality of those with the Tony

842
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: Ferguson Wynd and the Matteascamra.

843
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: But look you a broken leg in.

844
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: Between and missed out on what would have been that

845
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: close up against Mahachev, the one that Bobby Green ultimately

846
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: got where he missed almost two years. So he's been

847
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: through it and he's at this point. But skill for skill, Luke,

848
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: and especially if Charles Olivera can succeed in doing what

849
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: he normally does, which is bringing the fight to you

850
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: right away, how likely are Daryus's chances here? I think

851
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: you asked me what could be the difference here? I

852
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: want you to tell me what could be the difference here, Luke,

853
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: if you believe pretty high? Like when we talk about

854
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: Muhat Blamahammed, what have we missed? Why did we sleep

855
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: on him? Why did? Why?

856
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: Why are why are we still.

857
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: Sleeping on Benil darry Us to some degree, although a

858
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 2: lot have changed in this regard, and how does that

859
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: factor into this matchup? I'd rather ask you that question.

860
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not I favor him to win. I favor

861
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: him to win the biggest difference. And this sounds kind

862
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: of silly. It's like who's got better offensive jiu jitsu? Well,

863
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 3: in pure jiu jitsu terms, Daryush actually went a little

864
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: bit further, but in mma you'd probably go olivera right.

865
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: Just such a dynamic force and submissions on all different

866
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 3: kinds of fighters, and I think that's pretty fair, and

867
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: it's gonna be very hard to make good use of

868
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: that against Daryush, although certainly we've seen Michael Kiasa do it.

869
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: I think that's a very different dar use than what

870
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: we have today. But Nevertheless, he does have some deficiencies

871
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: in his record. But here's really, to me, the big difference.

872
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: Trevor Whitman talks about it all the time, and I

873
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: always mentioned Trevor Whitman when I make this point, which is,

874
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: sometimes these guys are all very closely matched, and you

875
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: know they'll have different sort of signatures about what they do,

876
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 3: but there really isn't some dynamic edge that one guy

877
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 3: holds over the other one. I would say, in general,

878
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: both of these guys are very capable in so many

879
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: different dimensions, not identically, but how good are they there?

880
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: They're really good. Olivari makes a lot of mistakes. He

881
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 3: makes a lot of mistakes, and I just think against

882
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 3: the old dar USh maybe up until the close fight,

883
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: you know, that might be something that would be usable,

884
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: and maybe it'll be usable in this contest too. But

885
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: the more recent dairy use, to me, just looks like

886
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: he is making much much better decisions about what to do,

887
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: where the fight should be shot, location, strike, the choice

888
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: IQ has really started to match his overall technical skill set.

889
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: And you know you have you mentioned OLIVERA brings the

890
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: fight to people. Yeah, he brought the fight to Makachev.

891
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: What did that get him? Didn't get him much, Dude,

892
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: that like one of his favorite things. I did a

893
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: whole breakdown of the blueprint on his game. He loves

894
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 3: to run and do jumping, switch knees to push guys

895
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: back along the fence, and like guys who aren't really

896
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: up for it, sometimes can get overwhelmed. Kevin Lee would

897
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: be a great example. Markachev just didn't even play that game.

898
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: He either got out of the way or intercepted him

899
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: along and it worked to a t. Like Makachev, that

900
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 3: was a relatively easy performance for him, all things being equal,

901
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: not because olivera is not good, Oliver is amazing, but

902
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: because he takes such risk, he makes a lot of

903
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: poor decisions and that means he makes mistakes and as

904
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: a consequence, Dude, a guy like Daryush is gonna be

905
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 3: punishing and unforgiving. So yeah, I like Daryush's chances here.

906
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: That's interesting, and I like the way you break that down.

907
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to be poised on the level Mahchev

908
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: was to not fall for those was, you know, not

909
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: fall for the bait of coming in and trading with

910
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: him and allowing the terms of the fight to become chaotic.

911
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: Mahchev did that with poised patience. He's also got a

912
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: great chin, but also Luke, the big part of that

913
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: was his counter striking with that left cross was was

914
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: huge to set up what he was looking to do

915
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: and kind of push back on that.

916
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: Let's talk Dariyusha's striking in that regard.

917
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: You see him following similar game plans of trying to

918
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: just stay poised, stay calm, try to push him away,

919
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: try to keep him at distance, and try to regain

920
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: the terms of that.

921
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: Does he have the striking to be able to do that?

922
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: In your eyes?

923
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: You know the question when you so, whenever a fighter

924
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: has a bad loss, you always wonder, okay, let me

925
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: let me point.

926
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: Let me be more specific, when.

927
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: They have a dominant loss and it ends with a

928
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: really bad like ko or something, you always wonder if

929
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: they're going to exactly be the same afterwards. Now we

930
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: didn't get that here, We got a submission, So I

931
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: don't think we're in that territory. But there is to

932
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: me a bit of an open question. Assuming Charles doesn't

933
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: make changes, which he might, but assuming he doesn't make

934
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: substantive ones, how much was the Makachev win a blueprint.

935
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: So here's what I mean specifically, if I'm Daryush. Now,

936
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: Daryush is a sort of a come forward kind of

937
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: guy at times. Right, He's got that Jafa al Cordero

938
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: mouy Thai style on the feet, which can be very,

939
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: very devastating, especially as a come forward guy. But one

940
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 3: of the bigger lessons from the Markachev fight was, dude,

941
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: just let him come to you. Let him come to you,

942
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: and when you do that, he just makes all kinds

943
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: of openings, all kinds of mistakes, and Makachev just took

944
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: advantage of it. If I'm Daryush, I gotta wonder do

945
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: I want to let this guy make the approach because, like, honestly,

946
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: who's better at wrestling pure wrestling, I'm gonna say dari USh.

947
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: After that Gamrat fight, I don't think he's really any

948
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: doubt about that pure mma grappling slash jiu jitsu again,

949
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: probably slight edge towards Charles Lavera, just behind nimble. He

950
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: can achieve positions and we've seen some back issues before

951
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: a long time ago, but back issues with Daryush, so

952
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: there could be a difference there. But if Daryush gets

953
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: on top or get to the back or gets a

954
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: waste or.

955
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Something like that.

956
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: Dude, he's he's going to be a nightmare for Charles Olivera.

957
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: So to me, the real big question is has Charles

958
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: Olivera taken the right lessons from the Makachev fight to

959
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 3: just be that dude. I'm talking a massive change dial

960
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: back the intensity from a nine to a seven and

961
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: a half, where you're in the guy's face, but you're

962
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: not over committing positionally, you're not changing amplitude, you're not

963
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: changing highly levels by jumping in the air with your

964
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: arms wide open, and you're not doing the dumb shit

965
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: that gives the fight away a little bit. You do that,

966
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: and I think Daryus has a much more of an

967
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: uphill climb, especially if he decides to fight on the

968
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: back foot.

969
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree that's going to be the key

970
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: part of it, because let's look at this eleven fight

971
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: win streak from Olivera. I was late to coming around

972
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: to fully believing that he could pull this off because

973
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: of the high danger he puts himself in, and I

974
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 2: think to some degree a lot of us were maybe

975
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: still holding him to the image that we used to

976
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: know this part, particularly in the higher way or lower

977
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: way class excuse me when he wasn't the same force

978
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: and had trouble making it, Luke. But of this eleven

979
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 2: fight streak, the final five are obviously the big ones,

980
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: all finishes over names we know and love, Kevin Lee,

981
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Tony Ferguson, Michael Chandler, Dustin Poorier and Justin Gaetchee. I

982
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: think we could say, although all elite those guys, or

983
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: sub elite or you know, in future champion Kevin Lee's case,

984
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: just being dangerous, we can certainly say those guys took

985
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: the bait because that's who they are. But if there

986
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: was somebody that maybe didn't take it fully or still

987
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: provided a challenge, it was Poorier. And look at the

988
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: adjustment Olivera made there by turning into a wrestler and

989
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: by being still very aggressive but also grimy, you know,

990
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: sitting on top covering the mouth of Poitier, just trying

991
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: to constantly put on that pressure like a gnat and

992
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: just be all over him. I think that there isn't

993
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: an in between. Potentially it doesn't have to be all

994
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: or nothing for Doe Bronx if he can find that Luke,

995
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: That's what's going to be interesting because I wonder, especially

996
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: hearing you talk up darry Ush's chances here, is he

997
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: the wrong matchup? Does he have some of those Mahachev

998
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 2: qualities that could change this fight if he doesn't take

999
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: that bait and he's able to keep that distance and

1000
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: he's able to constantly matador the ball and keep it

1001
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: to that regard. Most people took the bait, whether because

1002
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: they love it or because they got tagged and it

1003
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: was there. But let's also give Charles Olavera a chance

1004
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: to show us exactly what he did against Poory could

1005
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: happen again Luke. Maybe not the same because of the

1006
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: difference in wrestling abilities. But what I'm saying is he's

1007
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: also going to have to step up and be flexible

1008
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: and make key in big adjustments here. So look, if

1009
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: this thing goes deep, but there's a three round fight

1010
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: to be fair.

1011
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: Right, it's just three yep?

1012
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: Who do you favor late in this one? Does the

1013
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: three round element make it attract me? Potential the whole time?

1014
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 3: Hard to have a track meet with Olivera. Like if

1015
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: he wants to grab a hold of you, he typically

1016
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: finds a way, right, So there's that. I do think

1017
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: it'd be a different fight if it was five rounds

1018
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: versus three.

1019
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: I tend to think.

1020
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: I again, I tend to think that the close fight

1021
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: with Daryush and maybe you can say the Holtzman fight

1022
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: to an extent or something of a bookend, and he's

1023
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: just been a lot more thoughtful of late.

1024
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: So I think, man, that's a good question, dude.

1025
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: I think for those reasons, he can follow the Makachev

1026
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 3: blueprint a little bit, right because or some of the

1027
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: some of the things you're mentioning that Mankacheff has anyway. Uh,

1028
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: for example, Makachev just doesn't get hit a lot, just

1029
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: doesn't get hit a lot. I don't think these are

1030
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: quite at Makachev's numbers, But Benil Dariusch strikes him sort

1031
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: per minute, just two point five to five. That's very low,

1032
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: very low. Now, I know you, when you think Daryush,

1033
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: you think some of his losses like the Barboza knockout,

1034
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: or he got viciously one need, or you know, the

1035
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: close fight was kind of crazy, but over the course

1036
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: of his career, or even Hernandez sleeping them right, that's

1037
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: other parts too. But I just feel like the dairy

1038
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: USh we have now isn't just more technically skilled and

1039
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: a veteran who understands when to go, when to break

1040
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, but just more to the point,

1041
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: is just overall capable about making much better decisions about

1042
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: what to do against the right opponents in the right circumstances,

1043
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 3: both in the beginning of the fight to the end.

1044
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: So who do I favor? Later? I favorite darry Us Later,

1045
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: I do.

1046
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: I think Oldavera is going to have definitely spirited moments.

1047
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: You might find him taking the back or landing a

1048
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: huge shot or rocking him like that. That seems very

1049
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: much in play. But who's going to be there late

1050
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: to kind of be in the other guy's face. Derry

1051
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: Usch is my best guess.

1052
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean darry Us has some of these stingy

1053
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, look when we miss a guy, when we

1054
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: miss on truly identifying somebody's elite greatness when they're coming up,

1055
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: and then we tend to pick against them because you know,

1056
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: could you imagine that guy getting the victory? Yeah, there

1057
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 2: were elements of the of the fight for Mohammed last

1058
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: time out against Gilbert Burns with the short notice that

1059
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: sort of changed that. But damn Muhamma just dug in

1060
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: and was stingy as shit. Good defense, good staminots still

1061
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: bring in the fight. This is going to have to

1062
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: be darry Us leaping into an area, a new area

1063
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: in some level in the regard because of the danger

1064
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: of Olivera. But Luke, he was stingy and technical against

1065
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: Gamrock last time out too. And I believe that fight

1066
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: went five rounds.

1067
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, that was just three, I believe if I'm

1068
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 3: not mistaken. Correct, Yeah, it was just three yes, three

1069
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: round decision. But nevertheless, I mean there was a lot

1070
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 3: of activity. Gamrock got four takedowns only of nineteen and

1071
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 3: for four takedowns, the total control time was two minutes,

1072
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: which means, yeah, ten seconds of control time in round two,

1073
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: thirty five seconds of control time in round three, and

1074
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: then one.

1075
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: Twenty two in round one.

1076
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 3: But part of that was just against the fence, like

1077
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 3: dar USh won that contest, And Gamrock is a balls

1078
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: out wrestler, you know that as well as I do.

1079
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: You know, I just feel like Darius has just is

1080
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of good options about where to

1081
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: put this fight. When you combine that with how good

1082
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: his jiu jitsu is as well.

1083
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: How is Darus and chaos if if Olivera succeeds in

1084
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: making this wild and again a reminder that that's three

1085
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: rounds and not five, which could speed up the the

1086
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: urgency in him to do that. It's not just able

1087
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: to endure, it's to endure and adjust and keep your

1088
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: head and be able to stay in fights.

1089
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1090
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: Again the close fight he got rocked and then came

1091
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: back and finished off close and like this quick relatively

1092
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 3: quick succession anyway, But in general, I'm gonna say, you know,

1093
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 3: against like good opponents like Michael Chandler getting dropped, hanging

1094
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: on and coming back and finding a way to finish

1095
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: him off, Olivera seems like he's a little bit more

1096
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: battle tested against elite guys in that way, the way

1097
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: you're describing. So yeah, like if I mean this is

1098
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 3: interesting part right, Makachev couldn't be pulled into that kind

1099
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: of a fight. He was like, I'm just not gonna

1100
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 3: have that fight with you. Can darry Us be pulled

1101
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: into to it? Again, we've seen him, We've seen early

1102
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: in Makachev's UFC run having one mistake and then really

1103
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: working on it thereafter. You know, we've seen Daryus have

1104
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: a little bit more spirited contests throughout, so I think

1105
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: he can be pulled into one of those kinds of

1106
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: fights a little bit easier than Makachev. I just go

1107
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: back to what I've been saying that before. I haven't

1108
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: seen that version of daryushto the more reckless one in

1109
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: some time.

1110
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 2: Well, look, let's talk about this title picture and where

1111
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 2: the winner might go. When you consider Islam Mahachev the champion,

1112
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: and the top four fighters are fighting each other, coming

1113
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: up number one Oliver against number four daryusch here and

1114
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: then July twenty ninth, the BMF title the Pourier Gachie

1115
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: at two and three respectively their rematch. Do you look

1116
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: at this more as a semi final in a bracket

1117
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: with the idea of whoever shines more, or whoever has

1118
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: a storyline that makes it a better matchup, whoever could

1119
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: just really just shine, is really the thing can get

1120
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: out of here and be next in line for Mahachev?

1121
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: Or do you think it's already the BMF winner. Where

1122
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: do you think UFC sits on this one?

1123
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: If olivera wins, I don't know if Daryush wins. I

1124
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: think they will give him a title shot. I do

1125
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: believe that. I don't think it matters between Gaechee and Dustin.

1126
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: Hard to say that very convincingly. I know, you know

1127
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1128
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 2: Should be, But then shouldn't that be not only because

1129
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: he's number one, but because he's he was, you know,

1130
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: just the champion and the and the most dangerous finisher

1131
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: and still hungry and still at it like it should

1132
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: be Luke?

1133
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: It should be him no matter what. But can you

1134
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: really say that with a straight face.

1135
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: You just can't.

1136
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1137
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: I do you think it plays into the whole because

1138
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: the BMF thing could be flexible if they wanted to

1139
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 2: continue it. And we know Connor is lingering and doesn't.

1140
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: We don't know if he's gonna fight Chandler. We don't

1141
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: know if he's gonna get it. I mean, look, some

1142
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: people believe that in my DMS that Connor is just

1143
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 2: trying to personally test clean first before he'll enter the pool.

1144
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: Could be, could be just waiting out his endocrine system,

1145
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: could be.

1146
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. So what I'm saying is,

1147
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: I do wonder if the winner of Poorier and Gaiche

1148
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: ends up in some sweepstakes to fight Connor or the

1149
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: winner of Connor Chandler or whatever. I do agree if

1150
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: it's dry USh. I mean, dude, if you beat Charles

1151
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: Olivera in this scenario right now, you deserve and that's

1152
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: your ninth win in a row, and you do have

1153
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: quality wins like gam Rot and Ferguson to patch that

1154
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: up with Ferguson, Moore and name only at this point,

1155
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: but it's still tough and dangerous. Yeah, yeah, Luke, it's

1156
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: going to be that time. But what about Charles Olivera

1157
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: if he does show you that, either glitch or not.

1158
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: He fought Machev, who's arguably the best in the world

1159
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: right now and lost. But if he beats darry USh

1160
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: on this red hot streak, could you see them doing

1161
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: that rematch in Brazil? We just had Mahachev go on

1162
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: the road to Australia to fight Bolkonovski.

1163
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Makachev needs some good rivals. And Olivera

1164
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 3: underperforming the first time but then overperforming let's say against

1165
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 3: darry Yush and then setting up a rematch.

1166
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: I think would be pretty huge.

1167
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 3: I think the UC would be very happy to put

1168
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: him back in that position. Also, you know, do you

1169
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: really like Justin or Dustin's chances against Makachev? You might,

1170
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 3: you might, depending on what they show you, but I don't.

1171
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: I you know, I would tend to favor Makachev in

1172
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 3: all of those contests, and I just think he's for

1173
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: now and we'll see what Durryish can turn in, But

1174
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 3: for now, I think he's the best guy in this

1175
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: weight class. So you know, they're on different tracks at

1176
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: this point, in different places, and they mean different things.

1177
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 3: They could overlap, but I truly believe the winner of

1178
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 3: this fight is most likely to get a title shot,

1179
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: just albeit with more uncertainty in the Ola Earra direction.

1180
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: That's all, all right, BC Topic number three the last

1181
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: of this I should say, the rest of this card.

1182
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: It's not to say that there aren't some fun fights

1183
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: on here. Dan Igay taking on Nate Landwir that seems

1184
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: pretty fun. Now, Sordine Imavo have taken on Chris Curtis.

1185
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: I like that fight a lot. Miranda Maverick against Jasmin Jaesudivissius,

1186
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 3: I like that fight a lot. I'm as the hobbies

1187
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: on this card, anything really important or matter or stand out.

1188
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: To you in a way that we deserve to talk about.

1189
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the car blows, Luke, would you agree with that.

1190
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: It's not great for a pay per view?

1191
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: It's really on the It would be a it would

1192
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: be a very good fight night card. It would be

1193
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: like a would it be acceptable as like a quarterly

1194
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: Fox or ABC card for sure? Right?

1195
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

1196
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, eighty dollars or whatever. It's going to be

1197
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: like niche yeesh.

1198
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 4: Okay, here's the deal.

1199
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: This s Nate Land where fight's interesting and I'm gonna

1200
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: be talking to him later today, look right after the show,

1201
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: and I'm looking forward to it or I'm going to

1202
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: get on the train with this guy, all right. But

1203
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: as much as he is an incredible TV fighter, a

1204
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: guy who brazenly goes after finishes and is over the

1205
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 2: top and aggressive and is you know, ridiculous on the microphone, dude,

1206
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: he's won three in a row, two by submission, and

1207
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: now he's got himself to rank opponent and Danygay, who yes,

1208
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: is coming off a win, but it had a pretty

1209
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: tough losing streak before that.

1210
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 4: Dude, this is a pretty huge fight for Nate.

1211
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 2: The train to eventually go through that turnstyle of not

1212
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: just pretender and unlikely can tender, but even I think

1213
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: Luke of like comical TV fighter character like Spike Carlyle

1214
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: or Darren Elkins, Like he's in that category now. But

1215
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: he comes out and beats Danyga for a fourth straight win.

1216
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: Not only is he going to be ranked, you gotta

1217
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: put some respect on that man's name. Luke Okay, like

1218
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: this is one of those fights for legitimacy. It's not

1219
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: for entertainment, it's not for the bonus, although in his

1220
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: style he's likely to go in that direction anyway. I

1221
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: think he's got three straight fights in which there was

1222
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: a bonus. But Luke, is he gonna be allowed in

1223
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: the elite country club? Is he going to be allowed

1224
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 2: in the ranked? Is he of this ilk? I like

1225
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: that this fight's going to really challenge that.

1226
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: I like it too.

1227
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 3: I think Danny Gay has been a guy who has

1228
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 3: like really tested himself against the very best at featherweight

1229
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 3: and found himself a little bit wanting in certain areas,

1230
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 3: but in the process he got a whole lot better.

1231
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: He's looking for a second crack at it himself. Both

1232
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: of these guys are from different positions, so Ega got

1233
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 3: to test against the very best, and he is still

1234
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 3: you know, not quite there working on it, hasn't had

1235
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: that chance yet. And so if he can break through

1236
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: the Dan e Gay barrier, man, he's on his way

1237
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 3: to some big name opponents. And I think to your point,

1238
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 3: he's got a really fan friendly style.

1239
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: It'll just be interesting.

1240
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 3: I mean Egay for you know, if you try to

1241
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: brawl with Egay, I think that could go poorly. Like

1242
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: if you look at the ways Ega has lost, it's

1243
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: because he had really good opponents who could very much

1244
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 3: dissect what he was doing in a very scientific way.

1245
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: Just kind of throwing the book at him.

1246
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: Probably won't work. But maybe Nate Landweer has more than

1247
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: just that. That's what Saturday got.

1248
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: Sneaky technique, Luke, he really does. And the submission game

1249
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: has been interesting. He's opportunistic and goes after it. For sure.

1250
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: Let's look at the betting odds at the moment from

1251
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 2: Caesar's minus two sixty Egay plus two ten Nate land

1252
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: where so, uh, you got an opportunity to get plus

1253
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: money on that train. No disrespect to Dan Egay, Luke,

1254
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: this is the type of level of opponent he can

1255
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 2: and the betting people are telling you should.

1256
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: Be, but.

1257
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because my issue with EGA has always been

1258
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: Luke Man. He fights a very aggressive and damage heavy

1259
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: style for a guy that doesn't have huge.

1260
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Power, he has decent power.

1261
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: He's got some pop, not on the elite level, but

1262
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: that's not a character that could hurt him here. I mean,

1263
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: he could outwork land where but he's got to obviously

1264
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: avoid this fight getting too crazy and turn it into

1265
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: some craziness on the ground. But either way, Luke, this

1266
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: has fight of the night written all over it. They

1267
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: get after it, so you should get after it too.

1268
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, fair enough.

1269
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: Also BC, for me, the fight I care most about

1270
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 3: Miranda Maverick taking on jazmin Ja Sudivisseius. Mirandom Maverick, you know,

1271
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: you look at a record BC. She's on a two

1272
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: fight win streak against Thebina Maso and then Shanna Young.

1273
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: She win both of those.

1274
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 3: Will one be a stoppage against Maso and then she

1275
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: decisioned Young and she got the two losses before that,

1276
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: one to Macy Barbera. I thought she won that fight,

1277
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: so that could have easily gone her way. She did

1278
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 3: plainly lose to Aaron Blanchfield. But hello, Aaron Blanchfield, I'd

1279
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: be champion in this weight class by the end of

1280
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 3: this year. So it's like those two losses don't look

1281
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: that bad in hindsight, especially to the Barber one, which

1282
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't think she lost at all. Jasudivissias is coming

1283
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 3: off of a one fight rebound heading into this contest.

1284
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: Do you have any high hopes for this one? Like me,

1285
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: I think it's a great opportunity for Maverick to kind

1286
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: of like began to be Hey, I'm a contender in

1287
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: this division who's worthy of some consideration the title conversation

1288
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: if she gets this one.

1289
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: And look at how much this went from arguably the

1290
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: worst division in the UFC to man, this is really fun.

1291
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: And it was always about we just need more playable

1292
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: characters to feed to Valentina. Well, that got flipped upside too,

1293
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: upside down too right. We were all waiting to see

1294
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: what would happen when Valentina finally fought Aaron blanchfielder finally

1295
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: fought when we thought Tachiana Suarez might be making a

1296
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: run here, it turns out Tacian is back at one fifteen.

1297
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: But not only do we have this very interesting group

1298
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: atop the division, Mino Ferro another one. I mean, this

1299
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: is a fun ass division, the second level fighters, the

1300
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: Macy Barbers, and these two that are coming on. This

1301
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: is the perfect fight at the right time to find

1302
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: out exactly that which one is coming on. Maverick has

1303
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: redeemed since those losses, even under the conditions that you

1304
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: mentioned in the Barber fight being close, but I don't

1305
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: think she's ever fully lived up when she came into

1306
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: the UFC, when we're sort of like, oh, here's kind

1307
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: of like a poor woman's Ronda ROUSI again on the

1308
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: rise here, Luke, she hasn't met those expectations, whether fair

1309
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: or not yet and from that standpoint, but she is

1310
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: solid and hard nose and even with that loss recently

1311
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: for Jazzavicius, she's a tough out on the feet, Luke,

1312
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: good striker, you know, fights out of Montreal there and

1313
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: can certainly do some things. This is going to be

1314
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: some high skill level on this matchup, Like this is

1315
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good decider on which one's coming or

1316
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: going there. But man, I love the way this division

1317
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: is starting to come together.

1318
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: No, I got a little bit ahead of myself BC.

1319
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: I said, oh, she you know, not that you'd be

1320
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: automatically entitled talk. But if Maverick gets a win, then

1321
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 3: she's not far from that conversation. That's a little true,

1322
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 3: but not totally. So she's ranked at fifteen, which you

1323
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 3: might be like, oh, well, she's not even close. But

1324
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: the division is weird because Grosso is the champion. But

1325
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: just listen to who the rankings go. One is shift Chenko.

1326
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: I expect they're going to run that back. We'll have

1327
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,479
Speaker 3: to see, and then you have fo Ro at two.

1328
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens with her and getting the title shot.

1329
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: But after that, Tyler Santos already fought for a title.

1330
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: Blanchefield obviously is sitting at four.

1331
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: She's on a.

1332
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: Different level completely Androge, you know not. They're not going

1333
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: to put her right back into title fight any time soon.

1334
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: Chukegi in same thing, Lauren Murphy's same thing, maya probably

1335
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: same thing. It takes us to number nine, Amanda Hebos.

1336
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: In other words, it does depend on whether Grosso stays

1337
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: there because it does create a fresh set of matchups.

1338
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: But if Chefchenko was able to get back into the

1339
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 3: winning position, yeah, maybe Blanchefield overtips the apple cart by

1340
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: the time she gets up there. I'm just pointing out

1341
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: you have people who have had title opportunities who appear

1342
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: to be like on the other side of their career

1343
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: all the way up to number eight. It doesn't take

1344
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: moving very far to potentially be in title conversation.

1345
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: Maybe early was Mavericks.

1346
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: I like though that it's not where we were just

1347
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago where it's like get one

1348
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: good win and we're going to fast track you right

1349
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 2: into that title shot or not there, which is much better.

1350
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: And andrage Is I think is back at one fifteen

1351
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: and she got knocked out by Jan Shawna anyway, So yeah,

1352
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: to your point, she's not coming back to that title

1353
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: anytime soon. What I would like if let's say Maverick

1354
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: wins this, Luke is I think she still needs to

1355
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: be that outgoing generation of fighters that were that were

1356
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: all contenders before the youth Exodu or the youth you

1357
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: know infusion here, and I'm talking about Jennifer Maya, I'm

1358
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 2: talking about kitlyn Chukagan like that level of fighters you know,

1359
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: or even Hebots who is lingering in the rankings around

1360
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: that level. That would probably be the next step after

1361
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: this and trying to figure this out. But yeah, this

1362
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: would be a great win on you know, be a

1363
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: great win for either of them in terms of the

1364
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: name value. But man, it's just it's just really fun

1365
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: to see more people that you'd actually be interested in

1366
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: watching fighting, and you think maybe if they get some

1367
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: more experience, has a chance at being a contender rather

1368
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 2: than oh nice win, but you know, you don't have

1369
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: a chance in hell of scoring anything but a first

1370
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: round stoppage loss to the chef Chenko. Those days are over, Luke.

1371
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: It feels good, right, it feels better because now we

1372
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: got to see her respond. Hell, I still want to

1373
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: see Tyler Santo's respond. You could argue that she should

1374
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: have been the champion that night. So you know, it's

1375
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 2: this is there's there's there's hunger there. I like it.

1376
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: I like Hungary.

1377
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: There is uh BC last but not least.

1378
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 3: And we'll talk a little bit about the one card

1379
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 3: on Friday, just a brief mention on Friday. It's not

1380
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: their best card, but there is a PFL card. PFL

1381
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 3: four is coming up. BC PFO four will be June eighth,

1382
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 3: So that's tomorrow at the overtime Elite Arena in Atlanta, Georgia.

1383
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where that is. I think it might

1384
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: be one of the newer arenas. I don't know. BC.

1385
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: You have a five fight main card which will be

1386
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: on ESPN's like ESPN plus. Brendan Locknan, your featherweight champion

1387
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: against Jesu's Pinato. One of my probably my favorite, maybe

1388
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: my favorite fighter, actually I don't is definitely my favorite,

1389
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 3: but one of my favorites in PFL. Mobild Hablaia. I've

1390
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: taken on Tyler Diamond. There's some other names folks might know.

1391
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: Bubba Jenkins is on this card. Josh Conan's son called

1392
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: in SILVERA son Josh is on this card. Martine Hamlet

1393
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: b C. I just want to read if I can,

1394
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 3: this passage from Wikipedia, if I may, to describe the

1395
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 3: state of this card. Quote a bevy of failed drug

1396
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: to change this card as nine PFL fighters were suspended

1397
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: in Nevada, including former UFC title challenger Chiago Santos, Brutal Capalazzo,

1398
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: Christoph Jocko, a bunch of other names.

1399
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: It goes on and on. There's nine tom or ten

1400
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: of them.

1401
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 3: In light of the suspensions, ty Flores stepped in for

1402
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 3: Will Fleury to fight Rob Wilkinson because Rob Wilkinson, the champion,

1403
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: is now out of course, he got his own issues.

1404
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: Tyler Diamond's going to replace Daniel Torrez against Ahabliev. Gabriel

1405
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 3: Braga replaced Alejandro Flores to fight Marlin Mariisch.

1406
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: By the way, he's on the prelim card in another

1407
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: featherweight bout.

1408
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: Taylor Johnson and UFC veteran Andrew Sanchez joined the light

1409
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: Headway season to replease the suspended fighters, and we'll face

1410
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: each other. Impakasang and I and Tim Karn also be

1411
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: in this card, and it goes on and on from there.

1412
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: I didn't even list half the names that didn't get

1413
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 3: put on here because of all the suspensions. This card

1414
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: was decimated by the amount of suspension slash drug test failures.

1415
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: They still got some decent names on here, BC, but

1416
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: they don't have like one killer fight on this entire card,

1417
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: not one.

1418
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: They don't even have unfortunate I mean, even with names

1419
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: that we kind of like on here and wouldn't mind watching.

1420
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: It's just there in a tough place right now. The PFL,

1421
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: you know, and we talked about this briefly last week,

1422
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: but like I didn't really love last season, you know

1423
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: what I mean, it was decent. It was okay. I

1424
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: thought the season before was really the one that they

1425
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: came on.

1426
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 4: Grab my attention. That happens. Things happen.

1427
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: But here's the deal, Like, next year can't come fast

1428
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: enough for this promotion. And by the way, if that

1429
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 2: smart Cage ends up testing positive, then you might as well.

1430
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: Just fold the whole damn promotion.

1431
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, seriously, I'm.

1432
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 3: Gonna laugh my ass off if the Smart Cage, you know,

1433
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: ends up beefing with chat GPT or something.

1434
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: But like, think about it, Luke. I mean, look, they're

1435
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: doing their best to keep the train on the tracks here.

1436
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: But next year, where Jake Paul is supposed to make

1437
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: an MMA debut and Ghanu's supposed to finally make a

1438
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: fight and do it on pay per view, you know

1439
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: who's Kayla Harrison gonna fight. They didn't put her in

1440
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 2: the tournament to try to make a fourth fight with

1441
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: Larsa Pacheco there, They just put her in waiting for

1442
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: this pay per view launch next year. That can't come

1443
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: fast enough because all the buzz is either is negative.

1444
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: All the buzz is they failed more drug tests or

1445
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: morning combat shitted on the damn you know intelligent cage again,

1446
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: Like that's the only thing people are talking about, and

1447
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: I think that's that's tough. There's a lot of ambition

1448
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: in the PFL, there's a lot of money, but there

1449
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 2: has not been a ton of reasons to watch this year.

1450
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: Dude, this is I mean, this is the biggest point

1451
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 3: a million times. I won't rehashally except to say one

1452
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 3: more time, look at what the PFL has built with

1453
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 3: all that money and all those resources after this many years.

1454
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: Remember the used to be Worldsairs of Fighting, which was

1455
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 3: a different organization still, but PFL has been around for

1456
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 3: some time now.

1457
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: They have built a bridge to nowhere. They've built a

1458
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: bridge to nowhere. This is not a product that can

1459
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: survive much.

1460
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they might be able to survive a venture capital,

1461
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 3: but this is not a product making money like in

1462
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: any capacity whatsoever.

1463
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know if the Francis deal will work.

1464
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: But it's nights like these when I look at cards

1465
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: like these and I'm like, right, that's why they wanted

1466
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: to sign Francis, Because this other shit that they've built

1467
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: at times can be really interesting to you or to

1468
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 3: me or maybe to some of our viewers, but is

1469
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 3: not a product that is ever going to turn a

1470
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 3: profit or make them known.

1471
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: It is different though, even a year ago where I

1472
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: didn't think they had a great year, where at least

1473
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: if you've got you know, old Anthony Pettis in the

1474
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: main event, Oh no, oh, Rory's on there too. Oh

1475
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: and these guys who haven't yet popped for peeds that

1476
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: could be something tomorrow like Capaloza, and then the solid

1477
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: guys like Lockman who just come out and perform and

1478
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: put on fun fights. It was a much different equation. Damn,

1479
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: are they decimated right now? They're leacoing, they're leaking Luke,

1480
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to This is putting a lot of

1481
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: pressure on them to come huge, not just the pressure

1482
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: of can they make this in Gono deal worth it?

1483
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: Beyond the US you know saying great move, francis great

1484
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: to see, Well can they make it worth it? Now?

1485
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 2: I think the pressure on them is like double and

1486
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: triple because it's just sort of like what the hell's

1487
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: going on? Well, you know, like let's yeah, I don't know. Look,

1488
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna be really aggressive and free, like really aggressive

1489
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: and free agency.

1490
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just the Francis signing. They have to

1491
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 3: transform their product, right, I mean, that's truly what they

1492
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 3: have to do. They have to transform it. And this

1493
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 3: is just a I'm not gonna say, a waste of time.

1494
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: That's that's not fair. But it's not a meaningful change

1495
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 3: to anything that they're doing. It's just another event, right

1496
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: all right? You see that is it for our top

1497
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: four on our kind of amended show here. I'm gonna

1498
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 3: guess because of the state of things, we can't really

1499
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: do fan subs.

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Speaker 2: Oh we cab Yeah, So just to heads up, Mikey

1501
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: Mormon on the ones and twos from CBS Sports behind

1502
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 2: us there, we had some awful technical difficulties off the top,

1503
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: and we do apologize for that delay. But we can

1504
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: get into it right here, Luke. The fans have their

1505
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: chance every Wednesday to speak and show us. There art

1506
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: It's Morningcombat at gmail dot com the email address and

1507
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: at the end of that rabbit hole is Mikey.

1508
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 4: Morm's waiting patiently for you to arrive.

1509
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: All right, you've got mail fuure.

1510
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: He just ran that. In the middle of talking.

1511
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: He's like, if he's about to say something inappropriate, let

1512
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: me click it right now, there we go. Yeah, it's

1513
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 2: called fan subs. Here we go. Number one. Luke is

1514
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: a man named Brendan. My name is Brendan. I've been

1515
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: an MK donk since the first Bomb Shelter episode. I

1516
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: am an Australian photographer living in the US and I

1517
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 2: recently returned from a trip to Antarctica. I sailed there

1518
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: on a one hundred and twelve year old Dutch ship

1519
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: called the Bark Europa. I took some of my MK

1520
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 2: gear on the trip. This guy really brought MK merch

1521
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: to Antarctica. Luke, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to

1522
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: represent LTBC and the show down on South of the

1523
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: White Continent. I believe this is a first for any

1524
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: combat sports show, as I've never heard of anyone watching

1525
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: these programs down in Antarctica. I've included Boys, lt and

1526
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: the DC BBC.

1527
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: In the CT with some CT.

1528
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: That was lying huge fan of the show, I mean

1529
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: since day one, and I also wanted to let you

1530
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: guys know that I believe you could now add to

1531
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: your never growing list the accolades that you are.

1532
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: The league that sports podcasts to be watched.

1533
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: The seventh and last Conciden.

1534
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: Come down here in a Toctico can't down on a one.

1535
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: Hundred and twelve year old tolship in the bucking rod

1536
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 3: Bock and catching up with you boys.

1537
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: You see, he's gonna be concept here.

1538
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: Love what you guys do. Yeah, like I said, man,

1539
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of the show. And yeah Collins

1540
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: to get back to civilization, I'm gonna to catch up

1541
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: with will find you and someone if you guys I'm

1542
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 2: going for don't.

1543
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: You catch up well?

1544
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 2: And thanks your voice of a topic.

1545
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 3: Now, b see what are the chances he's down there, Uh,

1546
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 3: just trying to kill like endangered species or something.

1547
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's definitely selling whale skin on the dark web,

1548
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. Hey, Luke, can we say

1549
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: something right here? You know, some people don't love fan

1550
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: subs and we're watching this guy Brendan on the boat

1551
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: and I get why. But I love to connect with

1552
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: the fans. I love to give you guys a chance

1553
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: to say what you're gonna say or add to the

1554
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 2: art that we paint here. This is a fucking power

1555
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: move from the standpoint of fan subs. And hey, how

1556
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 2: do I get my name known as an MK? Donk right,

1557
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 2: how do I become the next Appy or j Picked

1558
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 2: or Cristo Cristo foros the Great Web Scream? How about

1559
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 2: I charter an old ass boat, go to Antarctica wearing

1560
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: the grossest mk T shirt we sell, and watching the

1561
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: show on the Wi Fi down under, down way under,

1562
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 2: like way way under. This is the classiest thing that's

1563
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: ever happened in this show's history. Luke, what I don't

1564
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 2: even know how to put this in historic frame or reference.

1565
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 2: This guy, Brendan is a hero.

1566
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: These shots are amazing. This dude's trip looks amazing. I'm

1567
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: incredibly jealous, incredibly honored he sent us this, and that's

1568
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 3: a hell of a way to run from the jan

1569
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 3: six committee.

1570
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 4: That's the good news is he supports our show.

1571
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: The bad news is Lukey has I left a wake

1572
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: of Weinstein's back there and Rolling Stone is now writing

1573
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 2: a feature on his comedic ass.

1574
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 4: Yeah that's that's not That's not good at all. Wow, dude,

1575
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 4: I mean.

1576
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: I love it. I gotta be honest. I love when

1577
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: we get people that reach out from countries you never

1578
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 2: would have imagined across this globe that are like, hey

1579
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: over here, big fan. Yeah, you might not guess it

1580
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: this is. I mean, I know he doesn't live there, Luca.

1581
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: We're not gonna do an MK live show you know,

1582
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: down there anytime soon. But wow, brother like, thank you Brendan.

1583
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: Welcome Brendan to what we do here. Wow, amazing shit

1584
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: right there. Let's go over to k one Hi, guys,

1585
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: taff here. I'm a Welshman living in Asia. Just that

1586
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: sat through a twelve hour session on my leg as

1587
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: my artist was due to fly to Australia for six months.

1588
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: I end up getting that one hitter quitter with love

1589
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: Luke to rate my tat and give it a rating.

1590
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 4: Love the show, keep up the good work.

1591
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 3: Okay, first things first, don't leave the picture up. Leave

1592
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 3: the picture up. Just look at this humanoid's feet, just

1593
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: look at them.

1594
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: Shits.

1595
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 4: Well, neither of us should talk to be fair.

1596
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we can't talk because I am probably worse

1597
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: than you maybe are as well.

1598
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: Oh you already know that I am. You already know that.

1599
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: Okay, here's what I'll say.

1600
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 3: I don't know much about this style of tattooing, so

1601
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 3: I would be very much completely in front of my skis.

1602
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: The color saturation looks very good. The line work looks

1603
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 3: really good. From what I can tell, this is a

1604
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 3: really nice piece of work. But this is not a

1605
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: style that I've got much experience in at all.

1606
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks pretty cool though. The guy's name is taff.

1607
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what this k one business is, but

1608
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: he a Welshman living out in Asia. He does look

1609
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: like Mark Hunt from the waist down, Luke.

1610
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, from the waist down he looks like he's part

1611
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: of the Fiji rugby team.

1612
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: But from the waist up.

1613
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: I bet he doesn't have a hog like them. Though.

1614
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 4: To be very fair, all right that Welshman, No, not

1615
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 4: a chance here.

1616
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm an adopted Welshman, so I can speak on that. Louke.

1617
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 2: There you go.

1618
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 4: Let's hear from Andy.

1619
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 2: He says, Hey, Luke in BC, I back, trust me.

1620
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: I back from Mexico. While I was there, I had

1621
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 2: to ref mk at a wonder of the world for

1622
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: a third time, this time being chichen Itza. Since I

1623
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: know how much Luke loves pro wrastling, I also had

1624
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 2: to check out a lucha libratio at Mexico City. To

1625
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: be clear, that is not a gimp mask. Cheers from

1626
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: back in Inglaterra it's Andy, Luke. Your thoughts here on

1627
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: the mass Superstar?

1628
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is.

1629
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 3: It is a gimp mask, just depending on how you

1630
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 3: use it, you know what I'm saying, Like, he doesn't

1631
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: have the mouth zipper, but you could get I mean,

1632
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 3: imagine you showed up to a party and they're like,

1633
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: where's the gimp? And then you walked in with that.

1634
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 3: Would they say that they couldn't make that work? I

1635
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 3: feel like they would say they could make that work,

1636
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 3: you know, I think so?

1637
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 4: I think so, Luke.

1638
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: I went to Cheachennizza on my honeymoon.

1639
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: How was it? It was great?

1640
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was fantastic. The bus driver though,

1641
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: he kept saying no, no, no, no chicken pizza if

1642
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: anyone pronounced it wrong, which was weird. And I can

1643
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: still creep my wife out to this day recalling that story. Luke,

1644
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: I guess you had to be there in Mexico, but

1645
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 2: that was weird. Yeah, there you go.

1646
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 4: Let's go to Matt good morning. Here is my sub.

1647
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: What does that saying?

1648
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: Infinite on the left side?

1649
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 3: Infinite world piece and every MMA cage is a PFL

1650
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 3: smart cage or no world piece.

1651
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: And the PFL Smart Cage ceases to exist. Guys, I

1652
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: gotta tell you world piece is overrated. Let's get really

1653
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: that smortage, dude.

1654
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,799
Speaker 2: If the PFL was smart, they would create a voice

1655
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: like like the kit like Hasselhoff's Kit Car from the

1656
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: early mid eighties, and make this a personality, give it

1657
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: its own Twitter account, right like cook up videos like

1658
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: actually reach out to and say, hey, MK, I know

1659
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 2: you've had fun with this. Would you guys be willing

1660
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 2: to do the first on camera interview with the smart Cage?

1661
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: All right?

1662
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'll just say this.

1663
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 3: There's a movie out with the guy from Workaholics. I

1664
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: think it's called like Jesse or Jessic or something, and

1665
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 3: it basically this guy has an operating system with a

1666
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: voice like Siri or whatever. But the bit is that

1667
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 3: it talks shit to him. I would love it if

1668
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 3: the PFL Smart Cage like talk shit. Be like, which

1669
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 3: one of you fighters for this contest tonight in Atlanta

1670
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 3: is on steroids?

1671
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: Show of hands, Luke, how do you think the smart

1672
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: age would pronounce casserras.

1673
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: Smart smartly?

1674
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 2: SONA, Yes, yes, indeed, let's go to Todd. He says, ohoy, mates,

1675
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 2: here's my installment for the week.

1676
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: God bless this man.

1677
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lee.

1678
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 4: Imagine if Leo man, Dude, it's not impossible. Luke, I

1679
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 4: always say that.

1680
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: I know there's gotta be one celebrity that has not

1681
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: come out yet. And I don't mean come out in

1682
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: the transgenial, transgential transgendal well. I forgot our debate last week.

1683
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean come out and say I am a donk.

1684
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: Imagine if it was Leonardo DiCaprio. Luke, I know we

1685
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 2: got the big e. I know, you know, so we're

1686
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: already up there. There's levels to this celebrity game.

1687
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 3: But damn man, Damn Hollywood A list actor, I'd be

1688
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 3: sized history.

1689
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: HD says, Hey, Donks, I know you don't like the

1690
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: slap dick, but I couldn't help but bring this art

1691
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: to life. My question to you both, is there more

1692
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: of a chance of cardiac arrest from one of these

1693
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 2: athletes or from data five thousand level washed MMA fighters.

1694
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 3: First of all, you're just putting my head on a

1695
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 3: man who's four hundred plus pounds. It seems a little unfair.

1696
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 3: But hold on, go back.

1697
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: To the other one. I just want to see you.

1698
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: There was a quote that was attributed to you real

1699
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: quickly if we can.

1700
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 2: Mikey, Yeah, was that other one part of this or

1701
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: was it placed in error?

1702
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 3: Mikey, Uh, here he goes. He replied that quote he

1703
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 3: has a lot to offer. The Kurent also reached out

1704
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 3: to Campbell's colleague Luke Thomas, Thomas's sister that Campbell has

1705
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: quote had absolutely no martial arts training whatsoever.

1706
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: End quote.

1707
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: BC's jim looked like a Petri dish for a number

1708
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: of communicable diseases.

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01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: Not bad, right, bad.

1710
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 4: Let's attribute this properly.

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 2: This is the second one from Todd, who was the

1712
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: one before, and this is hilariously brilliant. Mikey said, this

1713
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: might be our best one ever. Luke, look at that

1714
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: the Hertford Current area man opens fraudulent. Mmah, I mean

1715
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 2: just I mean they even have on the wall, Luke

1716
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 2: the artwork of BC's angels me with Joanna and Valentina

1717
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: and Rose.

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01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: This is very well done.

1719
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: That is Todd. I know what we missed The timing

1720
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: on that dude, That is top shelf fan something right there.

1721
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 4: That is some good ass shit.

1722
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And look back to history HD and

1723
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: the slap situation here.

1724
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 4: That's mean that they put you.

1725
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: On that guy.

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01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just I mean, it's a little much.

1727
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: I don't think I you know, I would never say

1728
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: that I looked great, but I can at least say

1729
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 3: I don't look quite this bad.

1730
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: Good Good for the Nevada and because I say Nevada,

1731
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: Luke and locals there hate that.

1732
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 4: Good for them, Good for the Nevada Commission approving that

1733
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 4: man to compete.

1734
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be cool, though, if all of

1735
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: our fan suburbs really wanted to use the fame that

1736
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 2: they could get through fan subs in this to become something,

1737
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: and we created our own slap team, Luke, a renegade

1738
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: slap team of MK donks that we were the coaching staff,

1739
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 2: and we go and challenge Dana and infiltrate the promotion

1740
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: and take the whole thing down.

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01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole thing though.

1742
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 3: Our whole bit would be that only Krup can get slapped,

1743
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 3: like he can't do any slapping back.

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01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Christian He says, this is

1745
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: a license plate that Luke would approve of.

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01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: Holy Bible, No, Holy bbl.

1747
01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, Luke, you've read that book many, many, many times. Yeah,

1748
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: I've seen your search history.

1749
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 4: Let's go to David appletin.

1750
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: Hi, guys. Recently Luke claimed it was disgusting for men

1751
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: not to share their private parts or shave their private parts.

1752
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 4: Sorry, so I thought it.

1753
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: Was time to act. Luckily, Manaal, a former student, came

1754
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: to stay last weekend and was happy to oblige, as

1755
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: we Europeans don't get access to MK sponsors goods. There

1756
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 2: is no landscape gear in site here, Sory.

1757
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 3: This guy lives in the I mean, where does it?

1758
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 3: Why is Appy living at the place where they filmed

1759
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 3: the Texas Chansaw massacre?

1760
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 2: So I asked her to trim my bush with whatever

1761
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 2: suitable equipment she could find. So here we are getting

1762
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: ready for the delicate procedure decked out in MK Merch

1763
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 2: two point zero, followed by a post op beer yours

1764
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: cosbly Appy PS. She says, if you don't start pronouncing

1765
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 2: her namesake Manalah properly, you boys will be next pps. JP.

1766
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: I know you're watching.

1767
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 4: Stop pretending otherwise.

1768
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Look, I think JP may have pulled

1769
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 2: out of this show. All right, you may.

1770
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 3: Apparently he got better at me over I roasted him.

1771
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: I didn't know we couldn't roast each other. I thought

1772
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 3: that was what we did, but I have.

1773
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: Pulled out Luke. I'm not sure, but Luke, what happened

1774
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: with Appy and Manal once the camera's turned off?

1775
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1776
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 3: Former student, my ass, get the fuck out of here

1777
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 3: with that description of your relationship.

1778
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: You got to David Weinstein is just leaning into this bit.

1779
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 3: You gotta love that, right, he really is a former

1780
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 3: student came to visit bit.

1781
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: Why would a former student come to visit you?

1782
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 2: I mean, would you be surprised if you found out

1783
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: he had multiple women tied up in his house? I

1784
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 2: don't say that out loud, you know.

1785
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: Why would you?

1786
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: Let I mean, also, dude, mow your fucking grass is

1787
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: like keeping your yard in check, an American thing?

1788
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that?

1789
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: I think he was talking about his personal butch, But yeah,

1790
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 2: your backyard.

1791
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: Just look at the house. The house is like you

1792
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: surrounded by a moat of grass.

1793
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is a drive through turnstile for

1794
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: ex students. That house, Luca is a house of worced

1795
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It's just unbelievable there, All right, Sorry,

1796
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: let's go to Alan w a genius in this area, Luke,

1797
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,480
Speaker 2: he says, this is for BC and his previous.

1798
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 3: Love said that they're putting my face on like the

1799
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 3: world's fattest man, and then they're putting yours on this

1800
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 3: jacked human.

1801
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is that is Scott Steiner. Obviously, big

1802
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 2: Papa Pump here here to please the washed forty year

1803
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 2: old divorces and assault.

1804
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: The English language.

1805
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 2: Here comes the big bad gringo daddy, big Papa page. Damn.

1806
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: That is good work, Allen w This goes out to

1807
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: all my wonderbread saltine, eaton divorces.

1808
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 4: Dude.

1809
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: He's playing into the famous cadence and delivery there of

1810
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: one big Papa Pump in the nineties.

1811
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 4: Fantastic.

1812
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: So I think it's yeah, it's it's probably probably Luke,

1813
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 2: but it probably depends which, you know, how the family

1814
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: pronounces it at the end of the day. Firstly, Brian

1815
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 2: will get his this wrastling reference as the photo works

1816
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 2: as a set venturing to the peak of his midlife

1817
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: crisis fitness journey with his personal trainer and t r T. Luke,

1818
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: Thomas becomes last Vicious Luke. These words are too big

1819
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 2: for me. With his unbridled confidence lascivious Luke constantly offers

1820
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 2: unsolicited advice to bbl's at the gym. We rate other

1821
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 2: men for being fat out of shaped sweat hogs and

1822
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 2: gyrating and men's yoga pants after each set, Luke, you cantankerous, SMA, bitch,

1823
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: good luck, Luke, that's that's ravishing, Rick Rude. But they

1824
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: made you look like Chris Delia right there. I don't

1825
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: know about that.

1826
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 4: It's a little dicey, but Luke, this is brilliant.

1827
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 2: Fans of it, right, yeah?

1828
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: I don't love the look. Also, why do you have

1829
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: a mustache like Salvador Dolly?

1830
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't quite get that.

1831
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, but dude, how badass?

1832
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 2: In the late eighties was this WWF gimmickhere? Rick Rude

1833
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: would put Jake Roberts his wife's face on his on

1834
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 2: the crotch of his pants. That was pretty good.

1835
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but that is pretty ballsy?

1836
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: Is the rest of this from Alan W Mike Hear?

1837
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: Is this separate?

1838
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: All right? This is good?

1839
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? To close on Allan's fans of here, Luke,

1840
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: here we go, I'll read the remaining script. In episode

1841
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: four forty eight, during the dead wrong segment. Elliott from

1842
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: England had a grand idea in renaming RSD one point

1843
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 2: out to Skits and Bits. Inspired by the name change

1844
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 2: and Luke's comment on BC opening the doors and letting

1845
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: in all the homeless cats, I had to spit out

1846
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: some new art from my artthole. Imagine sometime in the

1847
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: near future a Skits and Bits RSD with some of

1848
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: the homeless cats. Note this fan submission has a lot

1849
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: of Easter eggs. Some of the homeless cats are indeed

1850
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: legendary donks as well. See if you could identify them, Luke,

1851
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: can you find any of the Easter eggs on this Uh?

1852
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: There's Waldo in the background.

1853
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm having a Budweiser because I

1854
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 3: don't drink Budweiser, but maybe it's from the whole bud

1855
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: light thing. I don't know the pepto I get because

1856
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 3: I used to have stomach issues. Then they have the

1857
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: gravity bong, which is excellent. You have the hot dog,

1858
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: you have the PF Chang's which is a core is

1859
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: a nod to the subreddit. And then there's some of

1860
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 3: the posters that he has put in from before. I

1861
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 3: don't know much about the cats themselves. I see one's

1862
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 3: got a pirate eye or some shit I don't know.

1863
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Apparently he's got references that I can't even find, to

1864
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: the piquettes to Appy and Danger Mouse in this. But Luke,

1865
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 2: this is brilliant work here from Allen W.

1866
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 1: This is pretty pretty well done. I have to agree.

1867
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: And he says finally in that same episode, the word

1868
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 2: BC was looking for is tangentally, not tangently genitally. Try

1869
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: not to butcher the English language, BC, Luke, that's the

1870
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: fan subs Morning Combat at gmail dot com. Holy shit,

1871
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: what a day form. Brendan brought it, Todd brought it,

1872
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: Alan W brought it. This new era of fan subbing,

1873
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 2: Luke is blowing me away.

1874
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: What's blowing you these days?

1875
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 4: How's your whole?

1876
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: All?

1877
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: Right?

1878
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 3: Well, look, today's show did not go as planned. This

1879
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 3: was not the kind of show we wanted to do.

1880
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 3: We wanted to go live and obviously we had a

1881
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 3: lot of issues behind the scenes. Hopefully this is the

1882
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: last one of these for a while. So apologies to

1883
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 3: you folks out there for changing everything up. I'm already

1884
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: getting angry emails about it.

1885
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: Which is great, So thank you.

1886
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 3: For your patience, thank you for your understanding. Apologies for

1887
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 3: how it turned out. Hopefully we can make it up

1888
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 3: to you on Friday, and of course some other stuff

1889
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: next week. We'll see all right. Reminder, showtime dot com

1890
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 3: is the lbel that pays. You can go check that out.

1891
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: Morningcombat dot store is the place for merch if you

1892
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 3: still want to support us and Morning Combat at gmail

1893
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 3: dot com. The people sending me angry emails and see

1894
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 3: see me on them already know that. But for the

1895
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 3: rest of you Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Friday, we'll

1896
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: do okay, bet we'll get you ready for some of

1897
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 3: the one stuff that's going on. We'll react to some

1898
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 3: of the news and notes that's happening in the sport.

1899
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 3: I will have a post UFC two eighty nine live

1900
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: show for you guys, a reaction show immediately after the

1901
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: pay per view main event on Saturday night, so be

1902
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 3: prepared for that. Brian, of course, is in Verona, New York. Brian,

1903
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: thank you for making time for us and all that

1904
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: good stuff. Have fun with showbox on Friday. We'll talk

1905
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: to you then for bc IMLT or out of here

1906
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 3: until next time. May all of your gains be loyal,