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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where two things can also be true.

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Speaker 2: It could be one of the best days that the

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Speaker 1: All year, and yet it can be filled with a

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Speaker 1: afternoon because so many of the great stars got injured

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Speaker 1: in Week fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in the Chris Westleying podcast studio with my

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Speaker 1: friends Patrick Claybond, Jordan Rodrigue, and Nick Shook from Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: and Nick, you're you're with us right off the top,

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Speaker 1: because the biggest injury of them all, Patrick Mahomes, occurred

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Speaker 1: in the game that you were covering in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what to say other than yeah,

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Speaker 1: multiple things can be true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bummer of a way for well, not

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Speaker 4: For it's the bummer away for the game to end

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Speaker 3: We'll leave it at that. You never want to see

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Speaker 3: a star go down like Patrick Mahomes didn't. It didn't

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Speaker 3: look good on camera either, And for somebody who has

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Speaker 3: seemingly avoided so many injuries or played through so many

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Speaker 3: injuries during his run of greatness, it's really disappointing to

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Speaker 3: see him go down like this today.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's just a crazy day, I think since we've been

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Speaker 1: which we'll get to on a day too, where Philip

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Speaker 1: and the AFC East looked like it was one and

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Speaker 2: Wasn't just so much. Jordan, are you ready for everything?

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Speaker 5: I think we're gonna have to have a serious chat

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Speaker 5: with Joe Burrow about what type of crystal he wore

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Speaker 5: during his pregame arrivals today around his neck, because I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I'm not trying to put one in two

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and everybody's kind of channeling that injury because you

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Speaker 5: Philip Rivers is coming back, so he can't go for

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Speaker 7: So this is the halls.

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Speaker 8: We'll get on that theory later.

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Speaker 2: We have so much to get to and that that

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Speaker 2: is the thing. Football does suck.

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Speaker 1: It's like whenever there's a team that's healthy, they're no

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Speaker 1: as you said, the injury rate in this league is constant.

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Speaker 1: And yet there was awesome football today and results and

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Speaker 2: Let's get to one of them. In Kansas City, Minshew.

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Speaker 4: From the shotgun. Mahomes has already gone into the tunnel.

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Speaker 8: Here comes pressure.

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Speaker 9: Turwid James and the game Derwin and the game Turwin.

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Speaker 8: He did money.

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Speaker 2: Second consecutive week.

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Speaker 1: A minute roughly of game time after Patrick Mahomes went

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Speaker 1: Gonna be a little different season in the AFC West,

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the Charger side of it, Nick, but

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Speaker 3: And yeah, the Chargers got away with some things, a

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Speaker 6: You got to put on Andy Reid that Rashie Rice

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Speaker 3: Like the Chiefs ran up a pressure rate at four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be a little bit of a reset.

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Speaker 2: Didn't even count. I don't care. It could still be

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Speaker 8: From the twenty. The defense is putting their hold on it.

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Speaker 8: Videl Is the back here comes with blitz by on

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Speaker 11: It throws acepted and I'm picked off on the point.

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Speaker 2: For rookie. That's a sick pick.

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Speaker 12: Didn't try to twenty Oh.

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Speaker 8: He's a big man with a w.

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Speaker 7: Kind of the opposite of you, Nick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I love that big man.

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Speaker 2: Called back by penalty. That's the rule of cool.

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Speaker 1: You can't call that by back by penalty. New York's

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Speaker 1: looking at me, Funnier, Did that interception count? I a crazy?

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Speaker 1: I'm an idiot. We could we could take that out

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Speaker 1: the record or not. Either way, I love you, Kevin Harlan.

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Speaker 1: The the last comment is why he just goes from

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Denver.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna welcome Shook back later in the show for

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Speaker 1: the rest of his games. Thank you for your service,

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Speaker 2: On Sunday outside.

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Speaker 11: In the Franklin in motion, Bo takes a snap four

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Speaker 12: Ball to the end zone, touchdown Denver Troy Franklin, bow

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Speaker 8: Touchdown pass up the jam great anticipation on that one.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos would not relinquish that lead. They win thirty

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. Honestly, I think that it wasn't

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Speaker 5: just that. I will get to sort a little bit

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Speaker 5: more of the breakdown. A lot happened in this game,

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Speaker 5: this season is because the Green Bay Packers lost Micah

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Speaker 5: They also lost top receiver Christian Watson to an injury

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Speaker 5: So you have to really start this thing by wondering

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to We've we've had so many you know,

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Speaker 1: But you're right, Parsons going down with what sounds like

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Speaker 1: Zach tom at tackle that Lafleur said, doesn't believe that

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Speaker 1: also felt like Michael Parsons has covered up some things,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well you saw it throughout the course of the

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Speaker 5: I mean, the thing that Bo Nicks is doing is

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Speaker 5: it's like the synapses are connecting when it's like time

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Speaker 5: His situational awareness and the entire team situational awareness. But

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're expecting and calling for a majority of the

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Speaker 6: He was there, and Nicks, to his credit, uh and

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Speaker 6: But so much of this seemed like the culmination of

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Speaker 8: But for for you to.

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Speaker 6: especially on third and fourth down, where Bonnicks was seven

442
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Speaker 6: of ten for eighty four yards one hundred and twenty

443
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Speaker 6: eight passer rating on third and fourth down in this

444
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Speaker 6: game eight point four yards per attempt, Like this is

445
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Speaker 6: not dunkin and Duncan Knicks was taking shots down the

446
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Speaker 6: field and hitting most of them in the.

447
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Speaker 1: Second And this has to be a game where you

448
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Speaker 1: say they won because of bo Nix, not with bo Nicks,

449
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Speaker 1: because look, their defense literally gave up points on the

450
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Speaker 1: first five Packers possession, so the Packers' offense is essentially

451
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Speaker 1: destroying them through the first possession of that second half,

452
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Speaker 1: and then after that the Broncos defense we expect to

453
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Speaker 1: see shows up, but the bow Knicks helps to keep

454
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Speaker 1: them in this game. Maybe Sean Payton does too by

455
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Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down in two spots late

456
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter under five minutes to go, showing

457
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Speaker 1: faith with in his offense on fourth in short multiple times,

458
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Speaker 1: once giving the ball to Alex Prentice like John Payton

459
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Speaker 1: loves him a full back.

460
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Speaker 2: Like in the biggest of spots.

461
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Speaker 1: The other time Bonnicks had had an incompletion on the throw,

462
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Speaker 1: but that kept the Packers in the game. But ultimately,

463
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Speaker 1: what a what a great team win. And then you

464
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Speaker 1: know you're thinking about the Packers Jordan. Long term, it

465
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Speaker 1: just feels like they're not going to be at the

466
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Speaker 1: same level. And right now they're now behind the Bears

467
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Speaker 1: in the in the NFC North, and they're you know,

468
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Speaker 1: the chances for the one seed are obviously lesser.

469
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Speaker 2: I think they have a chance, but just feels like

470
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Speaker 2: they're ceiling.

471
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Speaker 1: It's significantly lower without Micah Parsons, to the point where like, Okay,

472
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Speaker 1: if you're in the AFC, I might throw you right

473
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Speaker 1: near the top of the mix, but you're not. I'm

474
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Speaker 1: putting you a level below the Rams and the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: And I want to say too, just that it's not

476
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Speaker 5: just that you're missing one of the best players in

477
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Speaker 5: the NFL today, but also you know, you remember when

478
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Speaker 5: he first came in. He came in late before the

479
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Speaker 5: start of the season obviously when they made that that move,

480
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Speaker 5: and it took them a couple of games to build

481
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Speaker 5: a plan around him and to really understand as a group,

482
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Speaker 5: because you can't really, you don't have time to do

483
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Speaker 5: that during the season. That's what training camp is for,

484
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Speaker 5: is to install scheme. Right, you don't have a ton

485
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Speaker 5: of time to do that. You run your plays, the

486
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Speaker 5: best ones according to the defenses that you face. That's

487
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Speaker 5: game planning, but you have to design now and do

488
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Speaker 5: something in a sudden change, and that's very.

489
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Speaker 7: Hard to do.

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Speaker 5: And you saw it at first they were it didn't

491
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Speaker 5: everyone was playing well individually, but they didn't quite come

492
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Speaker 5: together in a way that we really wanted to see

493
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Speaker 5: right away. Well, then they started firing on all cylinders,

494
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Speaker 5: especially after the bye week, really came together and looked

495
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Speaker 5: like one of the best defenses in the NFL were

496
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Speaker 5: playing like it. Certainly, now they've got to do another

497
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Speaker 5: sudden change, and that's what I think is more significant,

498
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Speaker 5: sort of the underlayer of losing a player of that

499
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Speaker 5: status because he is the center of a solar system.

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Speaker 5: When you have a player like that, I saw it

501
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Speaker 5: with Aaron Donald for years. When you have a player

502
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Speaker 5: who is the center of the solar system, every other

503
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Speaker 5: piece falls into orbit around it. And and that is

504
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Speaker 5: Micah Parsons. And now you have to figure out how

505
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Speaker 5: all of the planets, you know, float around each other

506
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Speaker 5: without him, and it's really tough to do, especially in December.

507
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Speaker 5: That's it's going to be an enormous test for this

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Speaker 5: coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: It will.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that you know there was a moment

511
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Speaker 1: when Love got the ball back down eight.

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Speaker 2: If he was ever.

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Speaker 1: Gonna stick himself into that MVP conversation, it would have

514
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Speaker 1: been some miracle come back year that's gone. But it

515
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Speaker 1: could sort of make and I think that's over with

516
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Speaker 1: for Love. Like I it does make me just think

517
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Speaker 1: that they're just gonna have to go nuclear on offense,

518
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Speaker 1: which it's possible, Josh Jacobs with some crazy awesome plays today,

519
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Speaker 1: it's certainly possible. But as Matt Lafleur said today, what

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Speaker 1: was it If it doesn't hurt, why are we doing this?

521
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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this if it doesn't hurt? I mean,

522
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Speaker 1: you know you're hurt.

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Speaker 5: You know you're in trouble where you're on the of

524
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Speaker 5: the Shanahan tree. Guys, you're on the side you're vacillating

525
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Speaker 5: towards Shanahan Vibe dark ominous. No one knows if we're

526
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Speaker 5: going to be here Sunday Vibe versus the peppy, perky

527
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Speaker 5: We'll get him next week, Sean McVay vibe. You know,

528
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Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur's taking a turn.

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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Sean Payton, remember before the season, I'm saying he

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Speaker 1: thought he had a Super Bowl team. Well, they're the

532
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Speaker 1: one seed with three games to go and that upcoming

533
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Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs, and to just like think about that,

534
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Speaker 1: it's often about who you play when you play them,

535
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Speaker 1: like the Kansas City Chiefs, when you think about who

536
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Speaker 1: they play the rest of the season. They have a

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Speaker 1: game against the Broncos that now just like looks like

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Speaker 1: a total layup for Denver, whereas before not so much.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Denver's number one, in part because of what

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Speaker 1: happened in New England. The Patriots were one half away

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Speaker 1: from winning the AFC East two weeks before Christmas, but

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Speaker 1: they couldn't close the deal.

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Speaker 13: Two tight ends set, but they're split out to the

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Speaker 13: left with Shakir two on the right in an empty set,

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Speaker 13: third and goal from the fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap, four man rush.

547
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Speaker 13: Allen steps up, fires, and he's got knocks.

548
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Speaker 2: In the end zone for a touchdown.

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Speaker 13: Josh Allen with a laser to Dawson Knox for his

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Speaker 13: second touchdown reception of the game, and the Bills for

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Speaker 13: the first time, have come all the way back to

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Speaker 13: ja the lead oh Chris.

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Speaker 1: Brown on wg R thirty five to thirty one.

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Speaker 2: The Bills win this game. And I chose that.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown in particular because on every third and long, on

556
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Speaker 1: every play where the Patriots could just get the Bills

557
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Speaker 1: off the field in the second half, Josh Allen did

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Speaker 1: something awesome. And it wasn't It wasn't just one thing.

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Speaker 1: There was play making. There was gutsy decision making. I

560
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Speaker 1: think the fourth down decision by McDermott to go for

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Speaker 1: it was obvious enough. But the fourth down decision from

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen to go for a seamball up the middle

563
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Speaker 1: to Khalis Shakir and put a perfectly placed past in

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Speaker 1: his hands where they called the pass interference. Patrick's making

565
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Speaker 1: a face.

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Speaker 8: I'll pick you up.

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Speaker 1: Greg to the victor, goes to bold. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: you know, he was bold. He put it right on him.

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Speaker 5: A questionable nobody cut the ball anyway, A lot of

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Speaker 5: those today.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was an it's a bang bang call,

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Speaker 2: I think complaining about the calls here. But he caught

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Speaker 2: the ball.

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Speaker 1: He caught the ball in the end on that Shakir play,

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Speaker 1: they ruled that he had the catch before Jones pulled

576
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Speaker 1: it away. Either way, whatever, Josh Allen and the Bills

577
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Speaker 1: offense were trying to do. They got done in a

578
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Speaker 1: span of five straight touchdowns. They go five for five

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, keeping the Patriots in the last place.

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Speaker 1: They are the worst red zone defense in the NFL

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Speaker 1: by a decent amount, and yes, down twenty one to nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's the first time the Patriots have blown a seventeen

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Speaker 1: point lead in one hundred and twenty attempts at doing so.

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Speaker 1: Only Josh Allen could do it. Mike Rabel spoke after

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Speaker 1: the game about last year's MVP.

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Speaker 14: Just watch all the games. You know that it's just

587
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Speaker 14: the same as it was last week. You had a

588
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Speaker 14: guy free weren't able to make to play. Last week's

589
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Speaker 14: team had a guy free weren't able to make to play.

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Speaker 14: It's why I draft him, and it's why I pay

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Speaker 14: him sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what to tell.

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Speaker 2: You, poor Mike.

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Speaker 1: That came after about thirty to forty seconds of him

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Speaker 1: just kind of rattling off a list of reasons why

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen had him a little resigned. Remind me a

597
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Speaker 1: little bit of that Josh Allen playoff game where Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick and the Patriots did not force a single stop

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Speaker 1: of the.

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Speaker 2: Bills in Josh Allen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna Actually, I'm glad you brought that up,

602
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Speaker 5: because I was like, he's he's feeling a little like

603
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Speaker 5: depressed at the podium late stage. Belichick right there, certainly

604
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Speaker 5: different vibes overall in New England. It's also really disheartening

605
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Speaker 5: to lose like that when according to next Gen Stats,

606
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Speaker 5: the Bills had a win probability of just eight percent

607
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Speaker 5: at a certain point and they came all the way back.

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Speaker 5: And I just felt like coming into this game, we

609
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Speaker 5: talked earlier this week about the Bills and you just

610
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Speaker 5: can't because of Josh Allen and because also of the

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Speaker 5: variance that this team plays with for the positive in

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Speaker 5: the second half of games. You can't really count them

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Speaker 5: out ever, and certainly you could not count them out

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Speaker 5: of a sweep of a potential sweep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were plus ninety four in the second half

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Speaker 1: of games going into this week. They trailed twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven at halftime in this game, so you know,

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Speaker 1: they make up a seventeen point deficit and win by four.

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Speaker 1: And that part of it didn't shock me, because like,

620
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Speaker 1: the Patriots are a flawed defensive team and the Bills

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Speaker 1: got it going before halftime with the touchdown drive. I

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Speaker 1: think they won this game in part because in the

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Speaker 1: second half of this game, their coverage held up and

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Speaker 1: they got the Patriots off the field quickly every single drive. Now,

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Speaker 1: one time they got them off the field quickly because

626
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Speaker 1: it was a one play Travon Henderson touchdown that took.

627
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Speaker 2: Back the lead.

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Speaker 1: But overall, it was just the Patriots were living on

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Speaker 1: the field, and they had a lot of designer stuff

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Speaker 1: and stunts and everything cooked up early in the game

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Speaker 1: where they were kind of winning, and I felt like

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Speaker 1: the Bills and Joe Brady and Josh Allen figured it

633
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Speaker 1: out and they relied on their quarterback but also on

634
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Speaker 1: James Cook in the second half of that game, and

635
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: it felt like a prayer anytime the Patriots were trying

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Speaker 1: to stop the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 6: After that, I think the big play was made by

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Speaker 6: Joey Bosa. Yeah, late in this game where the Patriots

639
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 6: had a crucial fourth down, Mike Rabel's going for it,

640
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 6: Drake May and the Patriots had just had a kind

641
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 6: of woeful drive considering how explosive they were. And I

642
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 6: guess it's the plague of all these most explosive offenses

643
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Speaker 6: where it's tough to sustain a lead when all you

644
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 6: can do is get giant chunk plays.

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Speaker 8: The Patriots were doing this entire game.

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Speaker 6: Where they have Bosa actually drop as a spy, and

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Speaker 6: of all the difficulty every single Bills defender had in

648
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Speaker 6: keeping up with Drake May this entire game, Bosa is

649
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Speaker 6: able to get his foot in the ground in the

650
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Speaker 6: right moment where there's nowhere for Drake May to go,

651
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Speaker 6: and then when May decides to throw over him, he

652
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Speaker 6: knocks that pass down, essentially saving the game for the

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Speaker 6: Buffalo bill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a great point because in the first half,

655
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Speaker 1: Drake May and the Patriots coming out of their by

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Speaker 1: remember that they're coming off that week off. It really

657
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Speaker 1: felt like, Okay, we're getting close to the end. Maybe

658
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Speaker 1: let's press that Drake May design run and scramble button

659
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Speaker 1: a little more than previously. And he had two rushing

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the first half of the game after having

661
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Speaker 1: two all season long, and he was playing fantastic. There

662
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: was a great throw down the sideline to Booty like

663
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: mc collins had a couple of nice plays. But you're right,

664
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: it's so dependent on the big play hell, let's let's

665
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: listen to a moment in time, because I have a

666
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: feeling our friend Scott Zolek is gonna have a great

667
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: call on the Trayvon Henderson touchdown.

668
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 15: Now, New England goes to work from the I formation,

669
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 15: two receivers to the left with many under center, tosses

670
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 15: it right for Trayvon Henderson.

671
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: The Bills haven't defended well. He tries to bounce it

672
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: back off to stretch it off.

673
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 16: Party twenty five forty two, beach twenty five to fifty.

674
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: Time to get home.

675
00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 17: Take to kidding me and like New England, hell's the lead.

676
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 17: I'm sitting here getting riplet because they went toss right

677
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 17: into the mass up the defense.

678
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 18: It's a bad call. The rookie kicks it backside and

679
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 18: your quarterback recognizing and he busts his ass to get

680
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 18: out in front of the steed guy because he's got

681
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 18: wills and he plucks two guys.

682
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 8: You're what is it?

683
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 18: Something that is really starting to come together.

684
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 8: For this team?

685
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Oh man?

686
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 7: That's so good.

687
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: Almost as good any reasons as the most lowsome man

688
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: in sports media, Dave Fortnite. They send me a video

689
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: about how they own the East and there a new

690
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: dynasty has started.

691
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: In the middle of this game.

692
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: It make it they're making it hard to be a

693
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: Patriots fan out here, no one who's with you.

694
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: And then they blow that game.

695
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: But I think it makes sense to me there they're

696
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: a young team to sweep the Bills. Man, it doesn't

697
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: mean they can't win the division. There's still one up.

698
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: That game of against the Ravens looks even bigger next week.

699
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: It just makes sense to me to beat a team

700
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: like the Bills. And after that Henderson play, by the way,

701
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: it was like, man, their defense cannot get off the

702
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: field before that, and it's just very methodical. James cook

703
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: up the middle up the middle to secure penalty on

704
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis who's struggling, and is just very methodical. The

705
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Bills didn't mind, and they answered, and they are right

706
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: near the top of my contenders in the AFC.

707
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 7: I like what you.

708
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 5: Said mentioning the youth of this offense overall, because I

709
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: think that the Bills know something and are very practice

710
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: and experienced in something, especially with Josh Allen at quarterback,

711
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: that the Patriots are still learning and figuring out, which

712
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: is the explosive plays are awesome, But if the other

713
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 5: team's strategy is to get the ball back into the

714
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: hands of the quarterback as much as possible, your entire

715
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 5: strategy has to be avoiding doing that, which means playing

716
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 5: more ball control on offense. I'm not saying it's not

717
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: a good thing to have explosive plays, that's fantastic, obviously,

718
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 5: but balancing those things out with a ball control offense,

719
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 5: you are more than capable of doing it. This quarterback

720
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 5: is capable of doing it. That balance is necessary when

721
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 5: you have an absolute like unit of a weapon on

722
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 5: the other side in Josh Allen, who is going to

723
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: make you pay for it if you give him one

724
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 5: more chance to snap it.

725
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 1: I just think these are two really heavy, offensive leaning teams,

726
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: and ultimately Allen was better today. Drake May there was

727
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: a couple plays in the second half where he makes

728
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: a bad throw, he gets away with one interception, he

729
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: has an arm punt. I don't mind that decision at

730
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: all on a play where Booty goes up for a

731
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: pass on third and long. But I think that's a

732
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: good point because look, they ran the ball well all day.

733
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: It wasn't just big plays. They had a designed success

734
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: rate of fifty four percent, but they just couldn't keep

735
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: the ball in the second half. Shout out to Josh Allen,

736
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: who's not out of the MVP race. Patrick, I think

737
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: you should score some points because you know what gets

738
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: some extra points when.

739
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: The spreadsheet the.

740
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Camera shows you on the sideline puking during a game,

741
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: you come back to win on the road.

742
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: And that's just what Josh Allen does.

743
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 19: That's I mean, if they don't catch it every game,

744
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 19: I don't know, Like it basically happens every game.

745
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 5: You know.

746
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 19: If I don't get it, get enough out pregame, you know,

747
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 19: it usually happens at halftime. If I don't get enough

748
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 19: at halftime, it usually happens in the third or fourth quarter.

749
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 19: And that's just I don't know why I do it.

750
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 19: It just happens, and it's do it to nothing else

751
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 19: but other than just like a weird feeling, just got

752
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 19: to get it.

753
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: Shout out to productive nerves, you know, like the greatest

754
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: athletes of all time, they feel it a little bit

755
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: and uh just a boot.

756
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 7: And rally the other way.

757
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: No question, this Bill's team.

758
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: They've turned around since Eric Roberts was in the crowd

759
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: watching them. Big day in the MVP conversation, We're going

760
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: to get to Matthew Stafford.

761
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 15: After the break, with three tight ends on the field,

762
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 15: they fake that off the corn, they roll right, they

763
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 15: throw to the right flat.

764
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 20: It's called Mitch another touchdown.

765
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: Colby Parkinson go off this second.

766
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 8: Story of the day.

767
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 20: The Rams are touch on top by two possessions. It's

768
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 20: a multi touchdown performance for the MVP front runner. Matthew Stafford,

769
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 20: a cat just former franchise.

770
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: If it's a day that ends and why it's a

771
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: Colby Parkinson touchdown day and a great call by JB.

772
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Long Day on KSPN when he said MVP can it?

773
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: I thought like, all right, let's slow down. Parkinson's been good,

774
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: but that's a little much. Matthew Stafford goes for three

775
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: sixty eight and a couple of touchdowns in a game

776
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: that the Rams trailed by two scores in the second quarter.

777
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: They get a field goal right before halftime Patrick to

778
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: cut it to one touchdown and then they roll second

779
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: straight week. They go over was it four hundred yards

780
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: and forty points? Five hundred yards and they win the

781
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: game forty one to thirty four. What impressed you the

782
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: most out of these rams.

783
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 6: It was the Colby Parkinson game. Who makes a play

784
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 6: in the first half where you and I are going

785
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 6: in the next gen stats to try to figure out

786
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 6: what's going on with Aiden Hutchinson who has a turnover

787
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 6: in Aidon Hutchinson's running free nothing but green turf in

788
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 6: front of Aiden Hutchinson. He hit a top speed of

789
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 6: eighteen point five six miles per hour. Kobe Parkinson put

790
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 6: up a twenty on the mph and chased him down

791
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: the big tight end that comes up with that. After that,

792
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 6: he has two touchdowns in a game where Davante Adams

793
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 6: leaves with a hamstring injury, not sure about the status

794
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 6: long term. They're a scary one in Puka Nakua in

795
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 6: and out of this game in spots where this Lion's

796
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 6: defense and Kelvin Joseph have a plan that bothers quarterbacks

797
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 6: and it has bothered them to the extent where Matthew

798
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 6: Stafford missed an absolute layup to Ferguson in this first

799
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 6: half where Stafford it's that ninety nine out of one

800
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 6: hundred times. But the Lions were scrappy and unfortunately for

801
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 6: Jared Goff, who famously on Fantasy Live Adam Rank calls

802
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 6: an indoor cat. He's got an indoor game at Sofi Stadium.

803
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 6: But he's not beating the pressure allegations because his first

804
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: half was great, two hundred and twenty one yards, three touchdowns.

805
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 6: He was not hit, and Young and Verse combined had

806
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 6: one pressure in the first half. In the second half

807
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 6: you get a sack from Young, excuse me, from Kobe Turner.

808
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 6: After that considerable difference, Like post sac, the game goes

809
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 6: the other ways. The Rams keep marching down the field,

810
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 6: Nakua comes back in again. Puka's in and out of

811
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: the entire second half. But there was one drive in

812
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 6: this game where Sean mcavay goes for it on fourth

813
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 6: down twice. Both of those fourth downs Stafford to Nikua

814
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 6: converts there in Great game by Blake Korum, Great game

815
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 6: by Karen Williams. The run game a little bit of

816
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 6: the difference there. But you have to talk about this

817
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 6: Rams pass rush down because Emmanuel Forbes got put in

818
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 6: some really rough situations. The Lions had a chance to

819
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 6: make this a closer game. Fourth and one on the

820
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 6: goal line. It is Emmanuel Forbes right there on Aman

821
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 6: Ross Saint Brown, Jared Goff everybody in the stadium knew

822
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 6: exactly where that ball was going. Unfortunately, the Stripes officiated

823
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 6: Emmanuel Forbes in the same way that Riley Moss has

824
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 6: been getting officiated all season long, where there wasn't a

825
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: whole lot there. They get the flag and they get

826
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 6: a David Montgomery touchdown, but too much Puka and Stafford

827
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 6: late as the Rams are.

828
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 8: Able to do.

829
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is like Puka can go for

830
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: nine for one one.

831
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 7: And miss half the game.

832
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: It's just that and also that we're not talking about

833
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: him for him VP and his season is just absolutely

834
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: outrageous because it's the big plays and the crazy catches,

835
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: but because it's those fourth downs as well, like a

836
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: couple like one of them, I know was a really

837
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: difficult contested catch, and this dude, it's just carrying like

838
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: an offense as much as you can carry an offense.

839
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: When obviously Stafford is the MVP candidate, and I think

840
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: he's the clear front runner now with three weeks to

841
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: go in an offense where Devontae Adams is scoring all

842
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: those touchdowns, but now we don't know how long he's

843
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: going to be out with a hamstring injury. It'd obviously

844
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: be very surprising if he plays on Thursday night. But

845
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: it's just another Lions game where I think, Okay, we're

846
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: getting used to the fact that the other good NFC

847
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: teams have significantly better run games and have better defenses,

848
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: and so, yeah, like Jared Gofflig, he has to try

849
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: to keep up in a shootout. But it's just not

850
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: The Lions aren't as good at the other stuff this year.

851
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: And the defense, which looked great for a while, like

852
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: the floor, has kind of fallen out the last month.

853
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: And a half.

854
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's some of its personnel, right, because they

855
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 5: yes a lot of it. Yeah, and they've been so

856
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 5: injured on the back end, and I think that especially

857
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 5: once they were able.

858
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 7: To sort of sift through.

859
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: What the coverage is, we're doing when Matthew Stafford and

860
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 5: some of their route combinations that the Rams were using.

861
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 7: You saw, of course, you saw their thirteen.

862
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 5: Personnel and you saw they were using the tight ends

863
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: a lot, which does give them a significant, I think,

864
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: size advantage. But also you saw them mess around with

865
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 5: like two two at well was in there a little bit.

866
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: Connaught Samley he's back.

867
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, a big catch as well.

868
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, a great catch it was like scooping an inch

869
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: off the ground type of catch. It was incredible on

870
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 5: the sideline and it was it was also using both

871
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: running backs and it was also it was just throwing

872
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 5: everything you possibly could at this Lion's defense. Obviously, the

873
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: significance of this win is not lost on anyone in

874
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 5: that building, not just because the history between the two

875
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 5: teams organizationally, but also the Rams clinched a playoff spot

876
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: by winning this game, so it is certain that they

877
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 5: will go to the postseason. And they built themselves to

878
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: do this. This is why they built in so much

879
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 5: variety into this offense.

880
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 7: And the one weak.

881
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 5: Spot that we've been talking about all year again showed

882
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 5: up over and over and over again because when they're

883
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: there's no pressure. And in the first half the Rams

884
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 5: front as great as they are, but we're really struggling

885
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: to get pressure.

886
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: To Patrick's point, and.

887
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 5: They played that that zone that they like to play

888
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 5: in the back, and they the lines receivers were just

889
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 5: getting explosive after explosive after explosive against these guys. A

890
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: Kello Witherspoon was a healthy scratch, so Aka was benched,

891
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: and so it's Emmanuel Forbes and it's no Quinton Lake,

892
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 5: who they badly miss in the middle of the field

893
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 5: directing traffic. And it is Darius Williams, and it is

894
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 5: Kobe Durant, who's been really great when he's been good,

895
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 5: but can sometimes get picked on a little bit too

896
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 5: when he's not having a good game. And it's it's

897
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: like a rotating planet safety and basically if you can't

898
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 5: get enough pressure, these corners are in trouble and teams

899
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 5: know it and they try to key in on it.

900
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ollie Connelly, who does a Saturday show, noted, you know,

901
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: in the second half they went fifty four percent single high.

902
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: They went from kind of the split safeties they usually

903
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: have and they go single high just to put some

904
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: numbers on it, and that that really helped on the

905
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: back end. You mentioned Kobe Hell, let's let's actually watch

906
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: a tough moment for him. It was Jamison Williams's second touchdown.

907
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams and the Dan Campbell play Colera era is

908
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: freaking insane. Seven for one thirty four in a touchdown.

909
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm on Rago's thirteen for one to sixty four. I

910
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: mean they're putting up fantasy numbers while while the run

911
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: game for the Lions is not. But yeah, just just

912
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: watch the Durant dive at the end of this absolute

913
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: dime by Jared Goff long count.

914
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 18: There's the snap Jared back, Jared looking looking growing, White

915
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 18: side wants.

916
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 13: Jame oenzil god touchdown detroit lyve Wow baby one a

917
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 13: dive from sixteen thirty one yards on the connection Kobe

918
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 13: Durant coverage but Jame old plus right by him.

919
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I had one of the best celebrations of the year

920
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: to the forty yard dash. Everyone wants to see was

921
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: seeing Jamier Gibbs and Jameson Williams, but the dive by Durant,

922
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: he was like fifteen yards away.

923
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 8: Face it was.

924
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 6: It was top five futility dives of all time. If

925
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 6: folks want to go back and watch that play because

926
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 6: there's no chance it gets to that ball. But nobody's

927
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 6: going to be mad at you in the fill room,

928
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 6: like that's that's selling out for no reason.

929
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 8: But let's selling out.

930
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 5: Jamo's gotten really creative with the celebrations. Patrick and I

931
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: were talking earlier in the day, right right as the

932
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 5: game started in a great a big first down conversion,

933
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 5: and he pretended to pick his nose through like the

934
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 5: sort of like scarf thing or face mask thing that

935
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: he wears, pretended to pick his nose and flick it,

936
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: but pointed the first down conversion as the flick.

937
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

938
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 7: I like, why I never seen that one before. That's

939
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 7: pretty great.

940
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: Jamo always entertaining. I think this was as big a

941
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: win for the Rams as it was as crushing a

942
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: loss for the Lions, because I know people kind of

943
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: had this choked up, and there's a long way to go.

944
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: They are two losses behind, a game and a half

945
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: behind the Packers now for the seventh seed. The forty

946
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: nine Ers are a couple losses ahead, and they have

947
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: an uphill battle now to make the playoffs. And the

948
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Rams now back into the first seed at least for now.

949
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: Thursday Night pending, would the Seahawks do their part and

950
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: take out Philip Rivers and set up a great Thursday

951
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: night game.

952
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 9: Seahawks Rams first and ten eleven seconds Taylor in the backfield.

953
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 8: Four Rivers takes the snap, four man rush. Rivers gonna

954
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 8: throw down.

955
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: The scene gonna be intercepted.

956
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 17: They're not gonna do it.

957
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 16: Fall is high to the intended receiver in his pick

958
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 16: off by Kobe Bryant and he races the south end

959
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 16: zone gives fourth interception of the season, a career high

960
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 16: the Seahawks defense. They nail it on the second to

961
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 16: last play of the game, picking off Philip Rivers.

962
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: Oh, our beautiful boy was so close. Our beautiful Grandpa.

963
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers directed a drive These are facts in the

964
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a National Football League game against the

965
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: number one defense according to DVA, that led to a

966
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: field goal being kicked to take the lead with under

967
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: a minute and a half to go. How dare the

968
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Seahawks score too quickly to even set him up for

969
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: that interception? Throwing over ten yards was not going to

970
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: be Philip Rivers' strength today, we learned that, but he

971
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: did have them in position to win the game. Ultimately,

972
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks pull it out eighteen to sixteen in a field

973
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: goal fest for the Colts. I'm torn on what to

974
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: think about the Seahawks side of things, so let's just

975
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: start on Phil. How did it make you feel, Patrick

976
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: to see to see this man who was in the

977
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: NFL when you were just like cutting your teeth as

978
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: like a college reporter making passes out there.

979
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 8: It was great.

980
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 6: It made me think about n C State and Ta

981
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 6: McClinton and all those guys playing for the Wolfpack with

982
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 6: Philip Rivers. No, but to be perfectly honest, just to

983
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 6: see the release of the back bettle. Obviously the physical

984
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 6: stature is not necessarily the same for Philip Rivers, but

985
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 6: to see him operating the offense, to see the way

986
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 6: the team and yeah, I joke about the team try

987
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 6: and harp to see these guys rally around Philip Rivers,

988
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 6: especially the Colts that were there back in twenty twenty.

989
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 6: And I think about that final possession where it's a

990
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 6: third and five and Philip Rivers is thinking, you.

991
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 8: Know, hey, the world's like, what's Philip Rivers got?

992
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 6: And he checks to the draw because he believed in

993
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor and Shane Steiken sends out the kicker because

994
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 6: he believed in the decision that Philip Rivers made at

995
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 6: that point. And it comes through and it makes it

996
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 6: even more frustrating the way that things ended, because that's

997
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 6: storybook stuff.

998
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I misspoke when I said under ninety seconds ago

999
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: the Blake groupie hit a sixty yard field goal in

1000
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: Seattle to take the lead with fifty two seconds to go.

1001
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: It was third and seven and yeah, Rivers checks to

1002
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: a run there. I think he saw a look. He

1003
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: gave it to his best player, you know, Taylor picks

1004
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: up four yards in the moment. I was talking to you,

1005
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: it's tricky because you're going against the Seahawks defense, but

1006
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: I would go for the fourth and three.

1007
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 5: You're laughing, Jordan, No, I'm I agree with you. Yes,

1008
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 5: I love I love the group you made this kick

1009
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: that was You're gonna need every single person to be

1010
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 5: at their best on this team for this Colts team

1011
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 5: to pick themselves back up. And that's certainly what you

1012
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 5: saw today. But we were just talking before. It's like, listen,

1013
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 5: we're getting the Philip Rivers experience here, and so why

1014
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 5: don't we just go all in, tush push do it.

1015
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, it's funny because I saw a lot of

1016
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: body shaming for poor Phil today.

1017
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: You know, a little bit of a dad boss.

1018
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 7: Anyway, he was set up for failure.

1019
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 2: He was also wearing that petion. I don't know.

1020
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: Over on Blue Sky there was a lot of Hank

1021
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Hank Hill backside comparisons to to Philip Rivers' body, which

1022
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't think.

1023
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 5: Is he was set up for failure. The white uniforms

1024
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: will set you up for failure.

1025
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 7: I couldn't time, I.

1026
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: Couldn't unsee it.

1027
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: But it was a fascinating game management game overall, Like

1028
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half, at the end

1029
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: of the second half. And so the decision there is,

1030
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: do you have a better chance of picking up those

1031
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: three yards and getting to finish with the ball and

1032
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: whatever the groopye field goal attempt is gonna be, or

1033
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: the chance of winning first group, He's gotta hit the

1034
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: kick and then you got to get the stop. And

1035
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: even though they didn't give up a touchdown all day,

1036
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: it felt like as the game wore on, the Seahawks

1037
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: were certainly moving the ball better and better. And I

1038
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: had very little faith with this new kickoff rule that

1039
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: the Colts defense was gonna prevent the Seahawks from hitting

1040
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: a field goal, and they did. You know, it took

1041
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: a couple plays for them to be in field goal range.

1042
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: They did stop them. So they got that like one

1043
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: or two plays at the very end. But it's not

1044
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: a decision I can kill either way. I think I

1045
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: think it was just a very difficult decision, and Groupie

1046
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: made him look better, and ultimately his defense, which played

1047
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: awesome today, like played their hearts out, just couldn't get

1048
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: a stop. And Jackson Smith and Jigba put another like

1049
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: credit to him on the offensive player of the Year

1050
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Canvasy because it was his big catch and run that

1051
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: set them up in the second half, and it was

1052
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: a really key catch where he gets open to help

1053
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: set up that game winning field goal.

1054
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: So it's just good ball.

1055
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: The fact that Philip Rivers was in this game, I mean,

1056
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: they were thirteen and a half point underdogs.

1057
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: Let's give the man some credit.

1058
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 8: Absolutely, and a lot of credit going to lou Anarromo.

1059
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, because maybe even more as far as a defensive play,

1060
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 6: college performance and the way that leatu Altu played and

1061
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 6: getting pressure on Sam Donald and this Colts defense as

1062
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 6: a whole. They hold Donald to a negative four completion

1063
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 6: percentage over expected. They were five of thirteen on third down,

1064
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 6: which I also think plays into the field goal decision.

1065
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 6: Like all right, lou all right, everybody, boys, you guys

1066
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 6: have almost pitched the shutout essentially against an offense that

1067
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 6: was screaming up and down the field the first ten

1068
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 6: weeks of the season.

1069
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 8: They just couldn't about ten more yards.

1070
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem was I think because of the game

1071
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: situation was like the second half of this game, and

1072
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: even really how the first half ended nine play drive

1073
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: by Seattle, eleven play drive by Seattle. Then the Colts

1074
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: did have a good drive to force a punt, but

1075
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: then an eight play drive from eleven play drive from Seattle,

1076
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: and that's what set up that final sequence. So they

1077
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: were moving the ball and look, Rivers's arm strength was

1078
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: not there compared to where we last saw him, and

1079
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: it obviously wasn't like an upper tier strength for him

1080
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: even then. But he made good decisions, he avoided mistakes,

1081
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: and I think he managed the game, and he even

1082
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: had a touchdown pass it was all worth it.

1083
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 10: Third down and three at the seven yard line, Rivers

1084
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 10: backs into.

1085
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 8: The shotgun, looking over.

1086
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 11: That defense full on the play clock, takes a step

1087
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 11: three step drop, looking rolls.

1088
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 18: Inside the five, touchdown for the Colts, and it's touchdowns

1089
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 18: across the goal line. Touchdown id why.

1090
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 11: And the Colts now are on top twelve to three man.

1091
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 8: Philip Rivers came off the Colts. It came out here

1092
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 8: for down.

1093
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: Awesome call there by bat Taylor and Charles Arbuckle on

1094
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: W and I and Rivers stild the broadcast team on Saturday.

1095
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, could He told him I could get

1096
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: killed out there tomorrow.

1097
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: It could go horribly.

1098
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: I know, the Hall of Fame thing, like I pushed

1099
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: that five years back. But he said on Saturday it

1100
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: has all been worth it because I had so much

1101
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: fun this week practicing with everyone. So it's really got

1102
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: to be worth it for him now. And it does

1103
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: make me even more interested to watch Mounday night football

1104
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. It's got to be a

1105
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: tough one against the Jaguars, and then you're at Houston.

1106
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: It's a brutal slate of games for Philip Rivers, but

1107
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: he's going to entertain us at least.

1108
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 7: How will his body feel tomorrow?

1109
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Not great.

1110
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: He did get rid of the ball as quickly as

1111
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: he could, but he still took, you know, a hand

1112
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: more than a handful of hits in this game it

1113
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: was against.

1114
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 6: Seattle, including one from the logo where he takes a

1115
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 6: step back into the logo, slips down, but to his credit,

1116
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 6: gets back up and gets a few yards where it's

1117
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 6: like you see the spry, the spry forty four year

1118
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 6: old doesn't even know his own way.

1119
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 8: Shout out to Philip.

1120
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 7: Rivers, what's that mean?

1121
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: Where it's like the player is twenty nine, he's like, oh,

1122
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 5: he's the older than dirt. He's out, And then all

1123
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: of the rest of us, like normal people, are thinking, oh,

1124
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 5: that's really that's great.

1125
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: Well to you, Philip Rivers is older than dirt.

1126
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, to me, he's like your status.

1127
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: He's still a couple of years younger.

1128
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: I was already a cover in the league when he

1129
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: was getting drafted. Unfortunately, look Seahawks, this first half offense

1130
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: being a little slugg as Sam Donald's certainly not playing

1131
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 1: nearly as well as the first half. It's a thing

1132
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: the running game not being quite as consistent over the

1133
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: last two weeks. I know they played great in the

1134
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: second half last week. It's a thing just like the

1135
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: Rams secondary is there bugaboo, yeah, Sam darnel on and

1136
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: overall this offense is not up there with the elites.

1137
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: But can their defense make up for it? I think

1138
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: all these NFC teams have one issue. This is an

1139
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: eleven in three team. They had an over undergoing into

1140
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: the year of eight and a half wins. They're awesome.

1141
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: I almost see too much negativity from the Seahawks fans

1142
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: of like, oh, they're not real contenders.

1143
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: Why not?

1144
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: We'll find out on Thursday night. In the meantime, let's

1145
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: talk about another team that could be a contender.

1146
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens play clock at one.

1147
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 10: Burrow takes a snap drop the throat, let's pressure coming.

1148
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 8: It's intercepted at the five.

1149
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 9: Cony hands them off to Gilman, on to their sideline, Aloie.

1150
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 2: Gilman in midfield.

1151
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 9: He's gone forty thirty twenty ten touch down Riven Hello,

1152
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 9: he Gilman and with seven thirty eight left, top play

1153
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 9: in Cincinnati the Hazel the Bar.

1154
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: Love that call by Jerry Sandusky on w b A

1155
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: L one of those most mature, responsible handoff slash laterals

1156
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: from a defensive player of all time.

1157
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 7: Please take this, Oh.

1158
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 6: I don't want this right now, just an easy The

1159
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 6: Bengals don't seem to be trying right now.

1160
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 8: You take this. He was trying to hand the ball

1161
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 8: all for twelve.

1162
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 7: Yards, so self aware.

1163
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it.

1164
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: Compare it to a Giant's interception later in the day,

1165
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: where there's three laterals where they're just winging it out there.

1166
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: That was awesome.

1167
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 7: Baton. It was like it was like running the four hundred.

1168
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: Such a weird game here, twenty four to nothing. The

1169
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: Ravens win a much needed win. Lamar Jackson only threw

1170
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: the ball twelve times in this game. That's all he

1171
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: had to patrick. He still ended up with a couple

1172
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: of touchdowns in one hundred and fifty yards. How you

1173
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: feeling after a shutout victory? A little revenge for your Ravens.

1174
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 6: The first thing I wrote when I got the game

1175
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 6: assignment and I had my trusty notebook. I've been tryingling

1176
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 6: to channel Greg Rosenthal with mixed results because I forget

1177
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 6: how bad my handwriting is.

1178
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 5: I was going to say, I'm looking okay.

1179
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: That took me a couple of years. I just write

1180
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: in all caps. Now it looks like a serial killer,

1181
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: but then I could read it.

1182
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I struggle with my own because I know it's bad.

1183
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 6: Can the Ravens win without a pass rush? The Ravens

1184
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 6: got a pass rush today to the extent where Joe

1185
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 6: Burrow had one of them worst games I've ever seen

1186
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow play. He was shut out for the first

1187
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 6: time as a professional. You gotta go back to the

1188
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 6: season before, they had the greatest offensive season in college

1189
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 6: football history against the University of Alabama, the last time

1190
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 6: Burrow had a team where he plays the game and

1191
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 6: they get and they get shut out where they were

1192
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 6: dominant early. Jamar Chase had a turnover in this game.

1193
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 6: Alt credit Jamar Chase with a turnover because the pass

1194
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 6: rush gets to Joe Burrow, the arm angle changes, so

1195
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 6: Chase jumps early because he's expecting he's, you know, he's

1196
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 6: played with Joe Burrow a lot that that ball is

1197
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 6: going to get there.

1198
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 8: The ball's a little fluffy.

1199
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 6: He jumps late, ball goes off his hands, it's intercepted

1200
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 6: by Marlon Humphrey, and thinking it's going to go back

1201
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 6: and forth because Lamar has a repe Goldberg interception of

1202
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 6: his own where he throws.

1203
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 8: A pretty nice ball to Zachers.

1204
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, shout out to Rube Goldberg and all those machines

1205
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 6: where Zay Flowers boots the ball to Jordan Battle and

1206
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 6: I'm thinking, oh, here we go. The Ravens are gonna

1207
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 6: have weird turnovers again. It's gonna be back and forth. No,

1208
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 6: that's essentially it. Baltimore plays a pretty clean game on

1209
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 6: offense in a dominant game on the d defensive side

1210
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 6: of the ball, where Mike Green, who it's been like missing.

1211
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 6: Is Mike Green gonna eventually make a play? It would

1212
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 6: be worth all this, you know, the consternation of bringing

1213
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 6: m onto the franchise, considering the questions for the draft,

1214
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 6: and you know he contributes with a sack. They get

1215
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 6: multiple pressures from all types of guys and the Ravens

1216
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 6: have a dominant win.

1217
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, full team win too.

1218
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: In the second half of this game, I'm surprised the

1219
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: Ravens Russ success rate isn't higher than forty seven percent

1220
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: because in the second half they were starting to blow

1221
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: open big holes for Keaton Mitchell, who ends up with

1222
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: sixty six yards and then Derrick Henry who had kind

1223
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: of a nice runway during it.

1224
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: And look that.

1225
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: I know the Bengals defense is bad, but the Bengals

1226
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: offensive line had been playing well, and certainly Joe Burrow

1227
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: had been playing well leading into this game. It is interesting,

1228
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: and we're going to listen to Joe Burrow's comments during

1229
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: the week to just think about this performance in the

1230
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: context of these comments.

1231
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 2: These are actually from Wednesday.

1232
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 21: I want to keep doing this. I have to have

1233
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 21: fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot

1234
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 21: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing

1235
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 21: it for? So let's the mindset I'm trying to bring

1236
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 21: to the table.

1237
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 8: Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but seemed frustrated.

1238
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 21: There's just a lot of things going on right now.

1239
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 21: A lot of things going on right.

1240
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 8: Now, all related personally.

1241
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 21: I'll do both.

1242
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: So Joe Burrow addressed that after this game, and he said,

1243
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, his comments had nothing to do with with Cincinnati,

1244
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: everything to do with my mindset in football. He also

1245
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: pointed out look last week where he seemed very resigned.

1246
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: That was a weird press conference too. After the game

1247
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: last week.

1248
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: We seemed very resigned for Joe Burrow after the game,

1249
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: just kind of accepting.

1250
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: I guess it's just not our year.

1251
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: Hey, you know, he pointed out he thought he played

1252
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: near perfect last week and that this week was one

1253
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: of the worst games that he's ever played. And it's

1254
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: just a lot. I don't know, what do you think

1255
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: is going on here?

1256
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 6: I think that on the outside, there's been questions about

1257
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 6: the long term viability of Zach Taylor as the head

1258
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 6: coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. I think if if the

1259
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 6: coach's job is anything, it's it's to manage the way

1260
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 6: that the players are coming into the game plan the

1261
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 6: way that the players are feeling throughout the week. The

1262
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 6: Bengals went through a lot as Joe Burrow has to

1263
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 6: get back to this point, and I know that the

1264
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 6: end of the the game and the loss to Buffalo

1265
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 6: was frustrated. He had those he had to pick to six,

1266
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 6: He had back to back weeks with a pick six

1267
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 6: and the Eloie Gilman reluctant not unreluctant handoff from Kyle

1268
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 6: van Noy on that play where I know he says

1269
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 6: that it's you know, it's not Cincinnati related. I don't

1270
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 6: think it's related to the land mass and the people

1271
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 6: in pay Corse Stadium on the day, but perhaps related

1272
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 6: to one in particular.

1273
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: Fair and it can't be really about ownership because he

1274
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: signed that kyr Not that you couldn't be frustrated a

1275
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: little bit, But I think he's in it in Cincinnati.

1276
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: I think that that's a fair read, although I point

1277
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: a little finger at ownership. We actually have a picture,

1278
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: I believe, of the un snowed you know, seats at

1279
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: the game courtesy of Nick Westling's sister in law. Despite

1280
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: this being an audio medium, some people do watch on YouTube.

1281
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: You can actually see the unshoveled seats and shout out

1282
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk. You know, sometimes

1283
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: it seems a little overly litigious, but.

1284
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: Pointing out that it's an NFL rule, you gotta you

1285
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: gotta get the snow off those seat, those seats, Mike Brown,

1286
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: You're making everyone show up in like zero degree wind, chail,

1287
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: and you can't even get the seats clean for the

1288
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: poor Bengals fans out there. Give me a break. Yeah,

1289
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: it's just like, come on, this is it's a professional

1290
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: football Yeah.

1291
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 5: And I think it's when you're the quarterback you represent that,

1292
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 5: you know, I think it's a lot to think about

1293
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 5: if you're Joe Burrow, like what exactly it is that

1294
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 5: you're representing, and what exactly it is that you're the

1295
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 5: face of. And certainly you can, I think and probably should,

1296
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 5: in some ways criticize the push and pull of power

1297
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 5: that gets him, you know, the players he wants, but

1298
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 5: the team is also not capable of being constructed in

1299
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 5: clearly in a functional way around him. And it's it's

1300
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 5: to me when I watch a person who is in

1301
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 5: his late twenties at this point will be entering his thirties.

1302
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 5: Now this is a little bit more like my recent

1303
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 5: memory of of of of a lifetimeline is you go

1304
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 5: through another sort of transition mentally.

1305
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 7: Where you figure out, like what you're going to be

1306
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 7: in the world.

1307
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 5: You have chased the career, you've chased what you do right,

1308
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 5: you chase what your structure is, but you have to

1309
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 5: now think start thinking about like what you want your

1310
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 5: life to feel like and representing the team and where

1311
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 5: you are and the place that you are in. Mentally,

1312
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 5: I see a person who's lost in that regard, and

1313
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 5: I hear a voice that that's very close to the surface.

1314
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 5: When you're laughing and smiling off these oh yeah, it's

1315
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 5: a little both and all these things, you're usually masking

1316
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 5: something else that's significant. And I think it's very close

1317
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 5: to the surface for him. And I'm not trying to

1318
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 5: overly psychoanalyze. He's the one wearing the crystal, not me,

1319
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 5: but I will say, like it's it's to me.

1320
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 7: I'm concerned about him.

1321
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 5: I think mentally, just from Afar, I don't have as

1322
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 5: much concern I'm glad Joe Burrow is willing to share, yeah,

1323
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 5: and to be.

1324
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 6: Open, because he could very easily have just nonsense, oh yeah,

1325
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 6: looking forward to this, blah blah blah, taking that.

1326
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: But when you watch the whole ten minutes, like, no,

1327
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm totally normal and in like open and not at

1328
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: all concerning. Like when you watch the whole thing, these

1329
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: are sometimes taken not out of context, but just like

1330
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: when you're that honest for ten minutes straight that things

1331
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: like that do popus.

1332
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 6: And then to have the nastiest game of your career, yes,

1333
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 6: four days after that, you know, causes people like us

1334
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 6: to go back and.

1335
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 5: Yes, listen to the whole thing. And I'm not saying

1336
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, he's saying he wants out Like I'm

1337
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 5: not saying that at all, But I'm I hear some

1338
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 5: things to be concerned about on a human level, for sure,

1339
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

1340
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: And I think the coaching thing is fair. I think

1341
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: both of these coaches are. They're so every coach is

1342
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: a little up in the air in the AFC North,

1343
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: probably not Tomlin, but I don't know. He started like

1344
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: putting those things out, making me it just made me

1345
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: wonder like if does.

1346
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: He want out?

1347
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: Because I don't think the Steelers want him out, but

1348
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: does he want out? While the Ravens they got to

1349
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: seven and seven, we'll see if that's good enough for

1350
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: a tie for the AFC North lead the Steelers game pending, obviously,

1351
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: but I know John Harbis feeling better, and you knew

1352
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: it was kind of the Ravens day when Nolmar almost

1353
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: threw a pick and then the very next players or

1354
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: certainly that drive, he hits that long touchdown to Zay Flowers.

1355
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: So the big plays we're back for the Ravens. Speaking

1356
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: a big plays, how about the offensive juggernaut in Houston.

1357
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 2: Look, I don't care how we pick up thirty six inches.

1358
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody does. If you gotta throw it,

1359
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: throw it, It doesn't matter to me.

1360
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 8: Just pick it up.

1361
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: Find a way to get this thing in.

1362
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 10: If you're not.

1363
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: Getting movement, who's CJ out throw it? Whatever you gotta do.

1364
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 12: Put this thing in thirty goal with the once strout

1365
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 12: under shutter and they staff.

1366
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: It directly the marks what it.

1367
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 12: CJ got out of the way, Marx got the snap,

1368
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 12: got the touchdown.

1369
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 9: Wrassle, dazzle, the texit score on thirty.

1370
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 8: Short good thing in those thirty six inches.

1371
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got it in. Andre Ware moved it around.

1372
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: He made sure.

1373
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: Mark Vandermere and mister Ware on Ko Kilt could have

1374
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: picked many touchdowns. The Texans put up a forty burger

1375
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: on the pathetic Cardinals defense, forty to twenty.

1376
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: It is. It is bad.

1377
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: They're not even that injured, by the way, They're pretty

1378
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: healthy up front and he's a defensive coach. It's not

1379
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: going well, but let's give credit where credit is due.

1380
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: What he Marx made sure he got that thirty six

1381
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: inches and Nny he got about like I don't know,

1382
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: I would have to do the math, but five more feet, yeah,

1383
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: like one hundred and ninety more inches. He jumped from

1384
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: the two. He landed about six or seven yards into

1385
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: the end zone. That was incredible, Jordan.

1386
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 5: I know, I loved it because that and we talked

1387
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 5: about putting this play as the highlight, even though there

1388
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,479
Speaker 5: were so many to choose from, because it was such

1389
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 5: a ass kicking by the Houston Texans all day in

1390
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: both in every phase, including special teams where they forced

1391
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 5: an early takeaway and early fumble by on the kickoff unit.

1392
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 5: For the Cardinals, but that Woody Mark's play was a

1393
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 5: play to me that sums up that the Texans offense

1394
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 5: is how they're coming back to life. Young players such

1395
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 5: as Woody Marks are really giving it a boost. Like

1396
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 5: there's no actual reason for Woody Marks to launch himself

1397
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: through the end zone like Ralph Wigham coming through the window,

1398
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 5: but he does it.

1399
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: Why not?

1400
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 7: Why not?

1401
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: Why the heck not?

1402
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 7: There's no reason, by the way for CJ.

1403
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 5: Stroud to make maybe the toughest throw available to him

1404
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 5: on this play, a sixteen yard pickup to Dalton Schultz,

1405
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 5: where look at this guy's he throws it to Yeah,

1406
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 5: oh yeah, there's a player there. You can't really tell

1407
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 5: it first because it is so unclear, because there's so

1408
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 5: many defenders crashing down and another eligible receiver in front

1409
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 5: of it. Why not take the hardest play in front

1410
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: of it. I do posit this as a Throw of

1411
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 5: the Year nominee just in terms of sheer difficulty and

1412
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 5: because it is so absurd in terms of its difficulty

1413
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 5: level and the tightness of that window that you almost

1414
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 5: felt like it was maybe an accident that CJ strouted

1415
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 5: particularly through it and Schultz there.

1416
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 6: I do think the touchdown to Woody Marks was an

1417
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 6: accident either.

1418
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 8: That was great fake work by c. J.

1419
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 6: Stroud turning around with his eyes as big as saucers

1420
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 6: after the snap, goes between his legs to say, oh,

1421
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 6: the ball's going to the ground, and then it's directly

1422
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 6: like a weird wobbly pass that hits Stroud's hand on

1423
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 6: the snap on the way back.

1424
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 8: I think that might have been an accident.

1425
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, and it was rolled a fumble recovery because

1426
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 5: the snap was bad and then they mishandled it. But

1427
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 5: then Woody Marks, like like I said, he just launched himself.

1428
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:08,479
Speaker 7: But it was great.

1429
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 5: And you know what I mentioned the young players, The

1430
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 5: kids are all right in Houston, guys, because when Woody

1431
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 5: Marks kind of he left the game because he was

1432
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 5: dealing with some ankle issues that he was in and

1433
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 5: out of the game throughout. For Juar Jones, a former

1434
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 5: six round pick, he came in and became the texans

1435
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 5: first one hundred yard rusher of the season, played outstanding,

1436
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 5: had a great game. In between Woody Marx and Jaden

1437
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 5: Higgins and Juwar Jordan and these guys are growing up together.

1438
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 5: And it's very interesting because the defense is so mature.

1439
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 5: The defense is such a like we talked about them

1440
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 5: being like professionally violent as an unit, and so the

1441
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 5: offense going through its growing pains early in the season

1442
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 5: and then coming out and putting together a really really

1443
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 5: solid and complete game. Yes against a bad team, a

1444
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 5: bad defense, but an absolute thorough beating that was over

1445
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 5: in the first quarter.

1446
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 7: Really, it felt like it was over because.

1447
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: The seventeen nothing first quarter.

1448
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1449
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 5: Well, and it was over at ten zero because before

1450
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 5: it was ten zero, before Jacoby Brissett even touched the ball,

1451
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 5: because CJ. Stroud on the second play from scrimmage hits

1452
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 5: Nico Collins on an explosive touchdown, and then the very

1453
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 5: next play or on the kick on the following kickoff,

1454
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 5: then the Cardinals fumble it and the Texans set up

1455
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 5: a field goal. And then when you play from an

1456
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 5: early deficit against this defense, you're screwed because of how

1457
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 5: sound and aggressive this defense is. So it felt it

1458
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 5: felt over immediately, and the Texan just piled on.

1459
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, they're starting to do things that real deal teams do,

1460
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: like the Seahawks, for instance, they just put the away

1461
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: the Cardinals quickly and hid and it's It's not like

1462
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: they had like a million possessions or had defensive scores.

1463
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: I know the special teams in defense did set up

1464
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: two short fields, but they had nine scores. I mean,

1465
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: they had forty points in I believe only ten drives,

1466
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: which like they either missed the field or scored on

1467
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: every drive but one today they had. It's like CJ

1468
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,479
Speaker 1: Stroud And one thing I noticed in the post game

1469
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: with from his teammates, they're all talking him up as like, well, yeah,

1470
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: like CJ's the best quarterback in the league, and and

1471
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: like we expect set like CJ is that dude. He

1472
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: he is as good as any quarterback in the league.

1473
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: And now, obviously I don't put him there yet, but

1474
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: I do believe that they believe that. And that's that's

1475
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: a dangerous combination. A lot of continuity, a great defense,

1476
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: a good court, a really good quarterback, and some young

1477
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: players developing like they got a chance to win the AFC.

1478
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 2: All these teams do.

1479
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 6: And I'm wondering because I know the early start for

1480
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 6: the offensive line was miserable, but there was some Stroud

1481
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 6: involved there. And I think as both have improved and

1482
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 6: CJ has gotten more healthy, Uh, there were eleven Cardinals

1483
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 6: that got pressured today.

1484
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 22: C J.

1485
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 8: Stroud was having to to make moves in the pocket.

1486
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 6: It wasn't necessarily easy up and down the field every

1487
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 6: single opportunity for the Houston Texans. But but I think

1488
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 6: he knows and trusts where they're going to be to

1489
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 6: the extent where he's able to make these plays that we're.

1490
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 8: Used to seeing c J.

1491
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 6: Stroud make at the start of his career, and that's

1492
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 6: why they're they're hitting the explosives he's he's making these

1493
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 6: plays on third down and they're a fun team to watch.

1494
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: And in the end, only two quarterback hits in one

1495
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: sack for the Cardinals, so that's a great game for them.

1496
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley did leave with an injury, but he was

1497
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: speaking to the media afterwards, which would indicate it's maybe

1498
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: not too serious. Kamari Lassiter with a big time interception,

1499
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: could they possibly get two All Pro corners? Don't I

1500
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy.

1501
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 7: They played so well.

1502
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 5: One of my favorite moments of the game too, is

1503
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 5: when Jalen Petree took a massive hit of a smelling

1504
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 5: salt that he was holding with him on the field

1505
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 5: before a snap and then dropped it as the ball

1506
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 5: is snapped and then goes and makes a tackle like

1507
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 5: it just this defense, it just knows what it's about.

1508
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 5: It has all year. It's my favorite defense to watch

1509
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 5: in the NFL, Like it's.

1510
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 7: It's just cool.

1511
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 5: And then on the other side, the only player that

1512
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 5: really gave this deck Texans defense any brule was Trey McBride,

1513
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 5: who was twelve for one point thirty four and two touchdowns,

1514
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 5: and it was basically like there was a tunnel screen

1515
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 5: that he had where it took multiple Texans defenders to

1516
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 5: bring him to the ground. No other player on any

1517
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 5: part of this Cardinals offense was giving the Texans defense

1518
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 5: even making more than one person come to tackle them.

1519
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 5: And I just thought, I have these thoughts sometimes. I'm

1520
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 5: sure you guys. Do you ever watch a player and

1521
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 5: you think, man, I wish he was on a different team,

1522
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 5: or like you watch a player who's really really good

1523
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 5: and you think, man, I wish I could just pick

1524
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 5: him up and put him somewhere else. It was really

1525
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 5: strange because I felt when watching Trey McBride against the Texans,

1526
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 5: man I wish Trey McBride played for the Texans because

1527
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 5: he was bringing the same energy against their defense that

1528
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 5: the defense was bringing against him and have all season

1529
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 5: against their opponents, and he fits them and he's like

1530
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 5: this lone island there and in Arizona that it's the

1531
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 5: only positive, the only bride spot.

1532
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've lost six straight. They are now looking like

1533
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: a three and eleven type of team. They're sixth right now.

1534
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: In terms of a tank athon, they they could easily

1535
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: get into the top three or four picks here. I

1536
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: don't know if Jonathan Gannon deserves to be fired or not.

1537
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: That's for another day, but this absolutely looks like a

1538
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: team who was coaches going to get fired. Let's take

1539
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: a break. The Texans helped serve. It was kind of

1540
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: a day where the two teams now atop the AFC

1541
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: South had to just take care of business. We'll come

1542
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: back on the other side and listen to Jaguars.

1543
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 23: Jets shotgun formation. Bunch right dropping his Trevor. They're swinging

1544
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 23: out of the back. So this is Travis etn with

1545
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 23: running in forty thirty five yard line inside of the

1546
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 23: stage to say thirty yard line twenty five hold on in.

1547
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 18: Here, sot of ten come touched down.

1548
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 16: Traversydna score again from forty five yards away.

1549
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:58,520
Speaker 2: How good is that? It's great, It's amazing.

1550
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: It's maybe a third straight week someone could credibly say,

1551
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,799
Speaker 1: is this the best game of Trevor Lawrence's career.

1552
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: It's a wild streak.

1553
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: Frank FRANGI there on WJXL, the Jaguars put up forty

1554
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: eight points on the Jets, final score forty eight to twenty,

1555
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: and you might say, what did Trevor Lawrence really do

1556
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: on that play?

1557
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: It's like a.

1558
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: Little dumb off pass to etn if travel. If Trevor

1559
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: Lawrence puts up six touchdowns in a single game, Patrick,

1560
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: we're playing that six touchdown.

1561
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: I don't care what it looks like.

1562
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, absolutely.

1563
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 6: If it were that easy to do what Trevor Lawrence done,

1564
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 6: it would have been done before in NFL history. The

1565
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 6: first player in NFL history with five or more passing touchdowns,

1566
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 6: a rush touchdown, and fifty yards rushing in a single Wow,

1567
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 6: has never been done. But congratulations to Aaron Glitz Jets

1568
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 6: as they come in and.

1569
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: Pour one out for all the qbs who did that,

1570
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: but without the fifty yards, right, No, that's why the

1571
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: show for.

1572
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 7: All the qbs that are like that guy did it.

1573
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 8: He did it, averaging ten yards of carry.

1574
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 6: As you know, Trevor Lawrence got that rushed a law

1575
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 6: rushing touchdown where the Jets actually held on defense. I

1576
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 6: believe it was Britain Strange. I got held down the

1577
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 6: field on a third and fifteen in the red zone.

1578
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence runs it all the way back in for

1579
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 6: the score where trev had You know, he had a

1580
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 6: Throw of the Year nominee in this.

1581
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: In fact, we will play it while you talk about

1582
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: it. It was to Parker Washington that thing was beautiful.

1583
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence rolling drops even further back as pressure comes

1584
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 6: and I'm thinking, well, don't don't do it. He throws

1585
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 6: a Jordan Love fade away. It's perfect to Parker Washington.

1586
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 6: Then he Jordan shrugs to the sideline to show that

1587
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence was in fact feeling it where the Jets

1588
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 6: and Brady Cook, Hey, congratulations, Brady Cookie did have his

1589
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 6: first career touchdown.

1590
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 2: I gotta say that that's got a chance.

1591
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 7: Do you think this while he's being hit too.

1592
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,799
Speaker 8: He is. It's Will Johnson pressure.

1593
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: The fact that you're rolling left and then you set

1594
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: you're taking the hit right, you're throwing it to a

1595
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 1: guy I in stride who It's not like he's wide open.

1596
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: There are two defenders in the area.

1597
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: And then and then I think the key here is

1598
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: the shrug.

1599
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: That adds a little extra I think that will help

1600
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: with the judges. It definitely beats out as well a

1601
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: similar one from.

1602
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: A week ago.

1603
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: We're the judges, we are judge and the jer and

1604
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: it's a third and long that helps to I don't

1605
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: know why like it.

1606
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 6: One of the few chances the Jets had to get

1607
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 6: off the field. Trevor comes up with that. There's you know,

1608
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 6: Brady Cooks again. Edna Mitchell caught his first career touchdown pass.

1609
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 6: Great moment, whereas fiance and mom and dad are celebrated

1610
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 6: in the in the stands. Not a lot of great

1611
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 6: moments other than that, as the Jets offense looked pretty

1612
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 6: rough here against the team that again no players ran

1613
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 6: for over one hundred yards. No player's gotten close to

1614
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 6: one hundred yards against Josh Hans Allen in this Jags

1615
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 6: defense and a dominant start to finish win for the folks.

1616
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: And it's the first game I believe where it's Jaco

1617
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: be Thomas, who again has a nice day sixty six

1618
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, and Trevor Lawrence was completing very

1619
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: difficult throws throughout the game and his rushing the last

1620
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: month is absolutely a coaching point and it absolutely like

1621
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: shows up.

1622
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: But it's the first.

1623
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: Game with Jacoby and Thomas and Parker Washington and Bretton

1624
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: Strange and yeah, this team just looks better each and

1625
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: every week and they and they did what you know,

1626
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: real deal contenders do and squashed the Jets.

1627
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 5: I have to know what Liam Cohen is saying or

1628
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 5: doing in the headset because you see that Jordan Trug

1629
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 5: that he's doing that at Liam Cohen like he's facing

1630
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 5: the side of the play caller and the sideline and

1631
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 5: the headset can click. It clicks back on at the

1632
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 5: results of the last after the results of the last play,

1633
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 5: so you can hear him if he's losing his mind

1634
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 5: in they're like excited, you can you can hear it.

1635
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 5: So I'm like, this is cool because they went from

1636
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes yelling at each other similar to Bo

1637
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 5: Nicks and Sean Payton, like they would they would kind

1638
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 5: of get after it with each other, to now, oh,

1639
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 5: they're like sort of like, you know, almost competing with

1640
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 5: each other, but in a good way, in a functional way.

1641
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 7: It's it's pretty cool.

1642
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: To the to the point where you know the teammate

1643
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: who might know Trevor Lawrence the Best talked about this

1644
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: recent streak after the game traves ETN.

1645
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 24: Back in twenty two, Trevor got hot in the second

1646
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 24: half of the year. Does this kind of feel similar

1647
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 24: to that in a little bit. I mean, obviously, I

1648
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 24: know different plays, different games and stuff, but just him

1649
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 24: starting to get on a roll at the most important times,

1650
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 24: it feels similar.

1651
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 22: Nah, not at all. I don't think I ever seen

1652
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 22: Trevor like this, you know, And I feel like we

1653
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 22: want to we want to now. So the championship the

1654
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 22: good and I feel like he's just out there. He's

1655
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 22: on fire man, like you've seen it. He rolled out

1656
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 22: again and he just kind of stops and just parks

1657
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 22: down here somewhere.

1658
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 3: You know.

1659
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 22: He launched it and Parker made a great catch.

1660
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 7: That's so good.

1661
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 5: That's awesome by travck for Washington's back, he's great.

1662
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: He really helps.

1663
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, ETN had three receiving touchdowns seventy three yards

1664
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: in addition to do an on the gun. I've been

1665
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: saying all year, Drake May's ascension is right there at

1666
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: the top of the just the biggest stories in the

1667
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: NFL this year.

1668
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: Trevor's got a ways to go.

1669
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: Three weeks is not a season make, but if he

1670
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: can play great the rest of the way, and we'll

1671
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: see this team is a real deal contender. That that's

1672
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 1: one of the biggest developments of this NFL season.

1673
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 5: Sounds like you're giving the Jaguars some of that much

1674
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 5: searched for respect that Liam Cohen was one.

1675
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we did a whole show on them back

1676
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: in October. But look, they to the choir, they stay

1677
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: one game ahead of the Texans.

1678
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: They are very much in the mix.

1679
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to the NFC another team that is in

1680
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: the mix, and they got served a big fat bowl

1681
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: of chicken noodle soup. Just we'll fix whatever you need

1682
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,560
Speaker 1: to get over your sickness.

1683
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: It's the Las Vegas Raiders.

1684
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 4: First and goal fall up before Hurts of the gun.

1685
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 8: Barkley was left. Hurts gives it off on a pitch.

1686
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 8: I'm running, I'm dash him for the touchdowns.

1687
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: Gunner four yard run A little click on that looked

1688
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: pretty easy.

1689
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: Eagles win Merril Reese Mike Quick on WIP. I saw

1690
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: these awful announcing rankings of the local radio announcers. Let's

1691
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: just say they have JB. Long in MJD and then

1692
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 1: Matt Mney Smith and Danny Jeremiah criminally low. But there's

1693
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: a ranking of this duo too that I think Eric Roberts,

1694
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: our producer, would disagree with, and I'm on his side too.

1695
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: Thirty one nothing, Eagles win easy. I don't know if

1696
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: my analogy really worked coming into the thing, but I

1697
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: was like, the Eagles were sick and the Raiders will

1698
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: heal them.

1699
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 7: I think it was very creditable.

1700
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 5: Okay, Dallas Goddard had two had two touchdowns, both off

1701
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 5: of little wrinkle plays, a pitch touchdown in the first quarter,

1702
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: in a sweep off rum fake in the third quarter,

1703
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 5: and he could have had another touchdown and it didn't

1704
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 5: even matter that he dropped, and easy would be touchdown

1705
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 5: off a little Jalen Hurts quick pass because this was

1706
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 5: such a tail whooping the entire time. Jalen Hurts ran

1707
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,440
Speaker 5: for forty yards, including some key third and long convergence

1708
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 5: to set the Eagles offense up into scoring position. Hit

1709
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 5: a couple of really great throws, one to Devonte Smith,

1710
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 5: a deep shot on the perimeter really sticks out to

1711
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 5: me on that and the Las Vegas Raiders were the

1712
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 5: Las Vegas Raiders.

1713
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 7: This one was a blowout that.

1714
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 5: Got Tanner McKee in this game at the start of

1715
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, and at that time that Tanner McKee

1716
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 5: entered the game, the Raiders themselves had just sixty six

1717
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 5: net yards.

1718
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: Well, the great thing about them is that they only

1719
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: finished with seventy five. Usually when you're like writing down

1720
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: these stats, you're like, oh, they're gonna get some yards

1721
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 1: in garbage dime and it's going to ruin it. I

1722
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: couldn't fathom a world where their performance against the Chiefs

1723
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: was not the worst performance by any offense this season,

1724
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: but we found it. Seventy five total yards by Kenny

1725
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: Pickett and the Raiders the lowest yards for play according

1726
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,919
Speaker 1: to Josh Dubou of the Associated Press in the storied

1727
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: history of the Raiders. I mean some bad offenses over

1728
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: the years, and this was the absolute worst. And so

1729
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: I think it supports the idea that this Eagles defense

1730
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: could just be the best thing in the NFC playoffs.

1731
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: It's possible and can the offense be good enough? Can

1732
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: they find enough things they like on offense? They obviously,

1733
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, this wasn't the week to totally find out,

1734
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,839
Speaker 1: But I think they'll still feel better about themselves.

1735
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1736
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 6: I think the doom and gloom questions about the viability

1737
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 6: of the Philadelphia Eagles maybe we're a bit too much

1738
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 6: after especially after a game where there were some flukey turnovers,

1739
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 6: two turnovers and one play by one quarterback in a

1740
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 6: situation that has never happened. You get those types of

1741
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,839
Speaker 6: things to happen, you lose the game on a turnover

1742
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 6: where they could have very easily won that game. They

1743
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 6: could have won the game in regulation and in over time,

1744
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 6: but it went the Chargers way. And like you said, Greg,

1745
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 6: this is more than a warm bowl of chicken noodle soup.

1746
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 6: This is like a censu bean. This is this is

1747
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 6: a healing touch from mister Miagi, like the Raiders will

1748
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 6: will give you everything you need to end more in

1749
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 6: a game where Ashton genty only runs for thirty five yards,

1750
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 6: but it's still the majority of the offense that the

1751
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 6: one player had.

1752
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 5: For the Raiders, they allow you to work on stuff

1753
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 5: which I saw the Eagles doing today. That's a kind

1754
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 5: way of saying that about the Raiders. I guess is

1755
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 5: you can do stuff that you don't normally do and

1756
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 5: still win. What you know, like the way that they

1757
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 5: did and totally shut them out. That the Eagles ran

1758
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 5: more play action. It's a small sample size because Jalen

1759
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,799
Speaker 5: hurts only through the ball fifteen times. He was remarkably

1760
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 5: efficient with those throws. Usually they're only about a twelve

1761
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 5: or excuse me, a twenty five percent play action rate team,

1762
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 5: but today forty percent of his dropbacks or play action

1763
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 5: for seventy yards and a touchdown, so really clean and

1764
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 5: efficient when using play action. The Eagles version of play

1765
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 5: action makes me laugh because it's really slow developing and

1766
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 5: it's clear that not every you know, it's just not

1767
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 5: something you see some teams and they do the ball

1768
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 5: fake like very fast, and then they get into their

1769
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 5: drop and they're only flipping their back for a second.

1770
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 7: This takes its time to develop.

1771
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 5: And again it did not matter, and so you can

1772
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 5: just do you can create and set up those those

1773
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 5: explosive plays, and I liked seeing it. I liked seeing

1774
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 5: them work on things in that regard because they're going

1775
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 5: to need to have more dimension to their offense and

1776
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 5: they're going to need to be more layered.

1777
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, their success rate was fine, but

1778
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: considering it was against the Raiders, Like the running game

1779
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: does rack up one hundred and eighty three yards, but

1780
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: still Saquon and Tank Bigsby like go for under three

1781
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: and a half yards per carry even against the Raiders,

1782
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: so that that's not necessarily totally fixed. But I did

1783
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts as you mentioned, just ripping a third

1784
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: and long design run. Do not see that out of

1785
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: the Eagles too much, so that might be an end

1786
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: of the season type of thing. Okay, let's use his

1787
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: legs and then even getting aj Brown involved after it

1788
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: looked like Hurtz was banged up a little. He comes

1789
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: back from the injury and finishes the game with a

1790
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: long touchdown to AJ Brown. Great win for the Eagles.

1791
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: Everyone is huge for them. They step a little closer

1792
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 1: to winning the NFC East. Let's talk about a team

1793
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,799
Speaker 1: that's like quietly still in the mix for their division title.

1794
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: It's the San Francisco forty nine.

1795
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:13,839
Speaker 8: Cure out of the shotgun.

1796
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: He takes the snap on third and goal, Purty under pressure.

1797
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 12: Jump fall, Kettle's got.

1798
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 9: It, touchdown, touchdown forty What a play from mid air, Purty.

1799
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: Off both feet suspended in the airs.

1800
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 18: He throws it to Kittle in the back of.

1801
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 11: The end zone and George is having a big day

1802
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 11: and he connects with the score.

1803
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: Not since Tim Tebow have I seen a jumping pass

1804
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: like that, Rock Purty. That was the most Rock Purty

1805
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 1: pass of all time. Three touchdowns, two hundred and ninety

1806
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: five yards. Back in my day, Tim Chebo and the Cats.

1807
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: Any chance he gets, let's talk about tea. But now

1808
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: I mean you throw it jump pass? Oh no, you

1809
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: throw a jump pass like that. That's the name that

1810
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 1: gets mentioned. Although that was more athletic and kind of

1811
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: incredible because him and Kittle have to be on the

1812
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: exact same page there, he wasn't that open. Kittle finishes

1813
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: with eighty eight yards and a touchdown. Perdy continues his

1814
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: excellent play that he started against the Browns, and the

1815
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers survive a game titan second half effort.

1816
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: They win thirty seven to twenty four. Really, what we've

1817
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: been talking about is the forty nine Ers playbook right now,

1818
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: which is you're just gonna have to be awesome on

1819
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: offense each week and that's their path.

1820
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 2: They've won ten games this season.

1821
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't like they are still in the mix in

1822
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: the NFC West' I won't roll them out totally.

1823
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 6: No, And you saw a continuation of the things that

1824
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 6: has kind of carried them this season, not kind of

1825
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 6: Christian McCaffery in the receiving game has literally carried this

1826
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 6: forty nine ers offense. But you get back and you

1827
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 6: get because Kittle missed significant time this season, he had

1828
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 6: a big game, Ricky Piersoll missed significant time this season.

1829
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: Even in this game he went out for a minute.

1830
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 6: And so like to see them back and kind of

1831
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 6: fully formed to the extent like, no, it's not we're

1832
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 6: not thinking peak Niners where it's like this world beater dominant,

1833
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 6: like gonna out talent you on both sides the ball.

1834
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 6: A lot of those guys are still there, but they're

1835
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 6: in different stages. They're succeeding to different levels. And against

1836
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 6: the team like the Tennessee Titans, they you know, can

1837
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 6: come out there and kind of groove their way to

1838
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 6: a win where yeah it was a jump pass, it

1839
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 6: was a cool highlight. I don't necessarily know it's necessary.

1840
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 6: He's fading away. Brock's feeling it, you know, he's.

1841
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: A little pressure in his face.

1842
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean most jump passes aren't really necessary, probably,

1843
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: but it was cool.

1844
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 6: One of the more superfluous jump passes in league history.

1845
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 6: I would say that touchdown to Georgia and.

1846
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: It would have looked bad like if it didn't get completed, because, yeah,

1847
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: the Titans were doing some things in the second half

1848
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,799
Speaker 1: of this game. So there was a two play sequence.

1849
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: And if Jeffrey Simmons does not make the All Pro

1850
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: team this year, and I'd have to go through I

1851
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: don't want to be unfair because there's other defensive tackles

1852
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: to look at a two play sequence where he forces

1853
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: a fumble on Party. It's thirty one to ten to

1854
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: start the fourth quarter. You figure this game is absolutely over,

1855
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: but he forces a turnover. They cash in with a

1856
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: touchdown pretty quickly. And you know who that touchdown.

1857
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 8: Was too, Who was it good?

1858
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 5: Jeffrey Simmons's so great. It's the coolest part of this

1859
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 5: coolest moment of this game with Jeffrey Simmons catching a touchdown.

1860
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 6: And not just a touchdown where the defensive player comes in.

1861
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 6: They scheme him up, like who's going to cover the

1862
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 6: defensive guy. It's a defensive tackle kind of running a

1863
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 6: little bit of a eight where he looks like he's

1864
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 6: going to be a lead blocker and then he goes

1865
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 6: into the flat. He does that, but then he's not

1866
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 6: open look at him, and so cam Ward has to

1867
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 6: roll to his right and Jeffrey Simmons is adjusting, is

1868
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 6: going on.

1869
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 7: Works with the quarterback in a scramble drill.

1870
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 6: But when are they What are the Titans running a

1871
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 6: scramble driller practice with?

1872
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 8: This is just a dude figuring it out.

1873
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 6: The dude who loves ball, who's out there like, oh man,

1874
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 6: I'm not open for this play.

1875
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 8: Let me make a play for Camo. Look at him.

1876
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 25: Well.

1877
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is he knows cam Ward so well

1878
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: that most receivers, lesser receivers would run towards the quarterback.

1879
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: When he sees Camroard rolling left, he says, there's some

1880
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: open space over here. My guy is so great thrown

1881
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: across his body that there's about seventeen throw of the

1882
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Year nominees of that exact throw. And that's exactly what

1883
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 1: cam Ward does.

1884
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 5: I see you and unnecessary unnecessary flourish jump past by

1885
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 5: Brock Purty, and I raise you an unnecessary but awesome

1886
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 5: flourish of a jump catch by Jeffrey Simmons, who bounced

1887
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 5: about three inches off the grounds catch that was coming

1888
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 5: into his chest anyway, and so he had it, you know,

1889
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 5: he had it locked and secured, and they're you know,

1890
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 5: all of that, but he's still you know, just a.

1891
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 7: Little emphasis, you know, just a little emphasis.

1892
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 5: I loved it. It was the most fun part of

1893
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 5: this game. On the side of the forty nine ers.

1894
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 5: They some of this obviously is cam Ward being able

1895
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 5: to scramble around. But the thing that will we talk

1896
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 5: about these contending teams and these teams that are going

1897
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 5: to make a real playoff push, especially in that tight

1898
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 5: like really crowded NFC West and the forty nine Ers

1899
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 5: cannot get pressure and regardless of whether the quarterback can

1900
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 5: scramble or not, they cannot get pressure. And on the

1901
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 5: other side, I think it's very cool kind of what

1902
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 5: seems to be forming here, which is George Kittle who

1903
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 5: is now back to doing kind of his yards after

1904
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 5: the catch thing, but they also are using perimeter receivers

1905
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 5: and they're taking some of that It's almost like they're

1906
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 5: blending the two eras or iterations of these modern forty

1907
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 5: nine Ers defenses and trying to see what kind of

1908
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 5: becomes of it as they enter this most crucial stretch

1909
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 5: run of their season.

1910
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Kendrick Bourne goes over five hundred yards to

1911
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: get a five hundred thousand dollars bonus. I always like

1912
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: those performance bonus notes that he's a little part of

1913
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 1: the offense. But yeah, you have a chunk play to

1914
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Robinson, you have a touchdown and a chunk play

1915
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: to Juwan Jennings that was a great play, and then

1916
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: chunk plays to Pearsall, who's been very quiet since he

1917
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: came off his injury, and Kittle. So it's all coming together.

1918
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: And I keep saying that about the division because Seahawks

1919
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: rams they're going to play each other. Yeah, one of

1920
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: those team is going to lose, and quietly, the forty

1921
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: nine Ers have every tie breaker possible. They're gonna have

1922
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: to beat the Seahawks the second time around. But they're eight,

1923
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: which is gonna be very difficult. But they are eight

1924
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: and two in the NFC, they're four and one in

1925
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: the division, and so they are danger mac Jones.

1926
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 7: Mac Jones won one of those tie breakers.

1927
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: Shout out to mac Jones and Davis Mills for helping

1928
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: their teams backups of the year. We should make that

1929
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: an award. Jameis Winston would maybe be a nominee. He

1930
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: did play on Sunday for a little bit. Let's go

1931
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:29,440
Speaker 1: to MetLife.

1932
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 8: McNichols is the back they go RPO. I heard he's

1933
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 8: got time passwack.

1934
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 2: Got a little field?

1935
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 12: Why up with Terry mcloorn at the twenty tries to

1936
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 12: get through a teckle he does, spits back cluck yard

1937
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,959
Speaker 12: cluckdown Washington a fifty one yard striker.

1938
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 2: Terry.

1939
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 26: Are you saying why do you want Terry mcclaurin on

1940
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 26: the football field?

1941
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 8: Is because it plays like that.

1942
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 6: Marcus Mariota just one on one coach on the house side.

1943
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 8: He falls absolute. Talk to Terry mccordy. He's done the

1944
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 8: rede will get to the inseel.

1945
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 7: Hmmm.

1946
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: Haven't heard enough from Bram Weinstein in London Fletcher this

1947
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: year two of the best in the business on WB

1948
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: I g yes, scary Terry also one of the best

1949
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 1: in the business. Making it a tough day in the

1950
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: film room. There for Dane Bellin because he got turned around,

1951
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and then Paulson Adebo came in there. It was like

1952
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 1: the Keystone cops falling off. I'm trying to make that tackle.

1953
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: Twenty nine to twenty one. The Commanders get their fourth

1954
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 1: victory of the season and the Giants stay in first

1955
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 1: place in terms of Tankathon. They are slated right now

1956
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 1: for the number one overall pick.

1957
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, to have the safety with a whole lot

1958
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 6: of green grass between him and Terry McLaurin.

1959
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 8: Going one one.

1960
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 2: I know, but what do you do. It's hull three sixty.

1961
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 2: It just doesn't look.

1962
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's, you know, considering the decision making from

1963
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 6: the Giants coming into this game with Mike Kofka and

1964
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 6: Brian cox U having their disagreements.

1965
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: Where survivors, a whole lot of folks.

1966
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 6: In East Rutherford are rushing to tell people it was

1967
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 6: strictly related to the seats.

1968
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:01,480
Speaker 8: On the plane.

1969
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 6: I started a wonder because the defense has been a problem.

1970
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 6: It was a problem once again today where you get

1971
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 6: the other team's best receiver matched up on the safety

1972
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 6: the three way go. There was so much grass there

1973
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,719
Speaker 6: there for Terry McLaren to operate in where Marcus Mariota

1974
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 6: didn't even necessarily have that grade of a game, and

1975
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 6: Jackson Dart once again is getting evaluated for a concussion.

1976
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 2: You know it's crazy.

1977
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 6: Our friend James Palmer pointed out today half of the

1978
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 6: games that he started, he's been evaluated for a concussion.

1979
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I will not accept your Mariota slander over ten yards

1980
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: per attempt today. Just only needed to throw to eleven

1981
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: nineteen throws, but he gets his two eleven and they

1982
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: ran the ball better than they have all in a while,

1983
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: at least the Commander's Bill Merritt back in the mix.

1984
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Dart takeaway was the biggest one for

1985
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: me in this game because it was full Dart and

1986
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: you don't want to go full Dart. Never like, there

1987
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: were some great throws in this game. I went and

1988
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: checked PFF had him as three big time throws and

1989
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: that that's a huge number, big time FoST I mean

1990
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 1: just monster touchdown to Tyrone Tracy for instance. There was

1991
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 1: a great one to Wandal you love you love to

1992
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: see it. There were at least three I think turnover

1993
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: worthy plays. They only had him for two, but yeah,

1994
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,799
Speaker 1: they he had one where he nearly threw an interception

1995
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: on fourth down, but it was dropped. He fumbled the

1996
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: ball on a rushing attempt that he probably shouldn't have,

1997
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: and then he had a brutal interception which had the

1998
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 1: combo where you almostould give him two turnover worthy plays

1999
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: where it was a really bad decision and a bad

2000
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: throw and that got picked off. And yet all of

2001
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: that together wasn't even the thing that bothered me the most.

2002
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: It was the fact that he's running near the goal

2003
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: line and putting his head down and they're blaming the coaches.

2004
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: That was a busted play. It was supposed to be

2005
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 1: a pass and he just decided to run. There was

2006
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 1: a design run though earlier, on an inside give on

2007
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: the goal line, where he took a pretty big hit two.

2008
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of the same story. And then again,

2009
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 1: he did have a bunch of good runs in this game.

2010
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: He ran for sixty three.

2011
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 5: Yards in the Tale of the New York Giants' twenty

2012
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 5: twenty five season.

2013
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 7: It is possible to blame everybody.

2014
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's a good, good call, including the

2015
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 1: whole defense, except today for abdul Karda.

2016
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 2: I was watching him closely.

2017
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 1: Three quick pressure sack force fumble like he's at least

2018
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: getting into the bubo.

2019
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 2: Well I like that.

2020
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and good because playing playing that way after some

2021
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 5: of the you know, miscommunication meetings or miss time or

2022
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 5: the benchings and all of these things, he knows people

2023
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 5: are watching him.

2024
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: Good.

2025
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean the crazy thing is Dark comes out for

2026
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: the concussion check Missus. Two plays, Jamis comes in, they're

2027
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: on the goal line, Jamis can't hit the touchdown, and

2028
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: then they bring Dart back for the fourth down. And

2029
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: that was the play I was talking about that should

2030
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: have been intercepted and was dropped and ended.

2031
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: Up just being an incompletion.

2032
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 7: Just just let it end. Yeah, the Giants seas if

2033
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 7: anybody end.

2034
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 6: If anybody could sim to the finish as bad as

2035
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 6: we talked too as things were for the Arizona Cardinals

2036
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 6: right now.

2037
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 8: It's been like this for the better part of months.

2038
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: It's really both these teams. But the Commanders have been

2039
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 1: better this year and they deserved that fourth win. They're

2040
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: four and ten Giants at two and nine. We're gonna

2041
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: say goodbye to you guys, and I'm gonna thank you

2042
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 1: for a clutch job. You guys have the clutch gene stretcher,

2043
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 1: like this was a show that required the best of us,

2044
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 1: like a big day in the NFL with these injuries

2045
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: and everything changing, And I know you.

2046
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 2: Could feel it before the show, and you delivered.

2047
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 6: We're gonna turn it right back around and thank Greg

2048
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 6: Rosenthal for allowing us to be a part of this franchise.

2049
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why we're having thanks when we have

2050
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 1: three big games to go to on the other side.

2051
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 1: Let's hit Bears and Browns. Shooky coming back before Sunday

2052
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: Night Football.

2053
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:46,520
Speaker 8: Your flowers, Greg.

2054
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 16: Snap played pig ROLLI was right, catile, running out of time,

2055
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 16: Gotta gut it into the end zone.

2056
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 12: The end zones?

2057
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 2: What Steve J Moore touchdown? Bears?

2058
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 26: You thought that play was a throwaway and Caleb Williams

2059
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 26: launched it to DJ Moore of the end zone, twenty

2060
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 26: to three Bears, his fourteenth completion, second touchdown of the

2061
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:21,959
Speaker 26: day for more right, deep corner of the end zone,

2062
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 26: crushing from left to right.

2063
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: When you first watched that play on the broadcast, copy

2064
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 1: chuck felt great, but it felt a little lucky. The

2065
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 1: more I've watched that throw That's Jeff Joniak and Tom Thayer.

2066
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: By the way, on WMVP. Bears win thirty one to

2067
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: three against your Browns. Big time effort.

2068
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 2: The more I watched that throw, that's a Throw of

2069
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,440
Speaker 2: the Year nominee. That is an.

2070
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: Outrageous feat of athleticism by Caleb Williams on one of

2071
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 1: his best days as a pro.

2072
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 3: My first reaction was, oh no, oh no, oh no,

2073
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 3: you're throwing it into traffic. Oh my god, he came

2074
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 3: down with that. What, Oh my god, that's like a

2075
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 3: cam Ward play. We've seen kan Or do that like

2076
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 3: three times this year.

2077
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: You're right, but the miles per hour on that see,

2078
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's even better. Like, yes, of course

2079
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: you need a little bit of luck to get that

2080
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 1: ball through, but I don't I literally don't know if

2081
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: there's a single quarterback in the NFL that could put

2082
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 1: that much velocity on that throw. From where he was throwing,

2083
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: that was unreal.

2084
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: That's part of the shot too, is you can see

2085
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 3: his eyes scanning the back of the end zone, finding

2086
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 3: DJ Moore and then just being like ohing it putting

2087
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 3: it there, and he put it right on him.

2088
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: Just an awesome game, and I think an interesting step

2089
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: forward for the Bears, who just keep checking boxes thirty

2090
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: one to three. They entered today with a negative scoring

2091
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: differential on the day. So I do think they've gotten

2092
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: better and better, even though you know they've been winning

2093
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: all season, They've gotten better. And this was a great

2094
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: example that their offense could perform against a great defense

2095
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: and that they could just win in a total blowout.

2096
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, a blowout that they earned, like there was there

2097
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 3: was nothing cheap about this. You know, their first touchdown

2098
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: drive was six plays, forty two yards, three minutes and

2099
01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:01,799
Speaker 3: forty three seconds, so it took quick DeAndre Swift touchdown

2100
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 3: and then they go back and score with DJ Moore

2101
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 3: and it's fourteen nothing, and at that point the game

2102
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 3: was basically over and they were not like dominating, but

2103
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 3: they were winning, just flat out winning against that Brown's defense.

2104
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Now you could say, like, oh, was the weather part

2105
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: of it, because it was frigid and everybody looked like

2106
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 3: they were pretty miserable, it didn't matter to me. The

2107
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 3: Bears had more fight in them. They look like a

2108
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 3: team that is ascending, that is fired up about making

2109
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,839
Speaker 3: the playoffs, is fired up about playing football on Sundays,

2110
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 3: and they dominated on both sides of the ball. Probably

2111
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 3: the worst performance from the Browns defense, which just felt

2112
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 3: like they were chasing Caleb Williams and chasing you know,

2113
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 3: those who caught passes from Kaleb Williams throughout the day, which,

2114
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 3: by the way, the rollout of the playoffs rollout was magnificent

2115
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 3: for the Bears all day.

2116
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 4: But it felt like the Browns.

2117
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 3: Defense is just out of sorts and it's probably their

2118
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 3: worst showing of the year since maybe that early season

2119
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 3: lost to Baltimore. And it's all the credit in the

2120
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 3: world due to the Bears. I've been a huge fan

2121
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 3: of watching Kaleb Williams play football over the last six

2122
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 3: weeks and I just think he continues to stack good

2123
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 3: games and this is another good one.

2124
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 1: Well, I know the weather was absolutely brutal, the wind

2125
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: chills down in the single digits or negative. We should

2126
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 1: have mentioned that with the Bears Bengal, I mean the

2127
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: Ravens Bengals game two, Like, yeah, that's absolutely something to

2128
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: consider in context. But they put up three hundred and

2129
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: sixty one yards. I know they slowed down in the

2130
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: second half, but their success rate for the day throwing

2131
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: and running was like fifty percent, which is outstanding. Meanwhile,

2132
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: the Browns absolutely can't do anything on offense, Like I

2133
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: don't think they barely had a successful run the entire day.

2134
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: Shadur Sanders struggle. So it's a great game plan game

2135
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: by the Bears defense too. So you can't blame the

2136
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 1: weather when one offense looks like the weather's fine and

2137
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: the other is terrible. What did you see out of

2138
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 1: the Browns offense in the Bears defense?

2139
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, I'm back to that point real quick.

2140
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:41,839
Speaker 3: I mean Kleeb threw for two forty yes, in freezing

2141
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 3: cold weather like that, that's an accomplishment. But from the

2142
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 3: Browns offense a lot of the same. You know, Shador

2143
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 3: had a few nice throws. He actually got robbed of

2144
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 3: what could have been a touchdown pass. He put one

2145
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 3: absolutely on the numbers on Jerry Judy down the sideline

2146
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 3: that should have been a touchdown. Hits Judy in the chest,

2147
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 3: falls through his arms and right into the hands of

2148
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Johnson for an interception, one of three shud Or

2149
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 3: Sanders interceptions. The other two were his fault. Good defensive

2150
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 3: plays made by CJGJ and the linebacker DeMarco Jackson. And look,

2151
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna get from a Rooie quarterback. He

2152
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 3: still holds on the football too long. I feel like

2153
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 3: I'm a broken record at this point. His pressure rate

2154
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 3: is sky high because he holds on the ball too long.

2155
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 3: And the Browns offense, I mean, he hit a couple

2156
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 3: of really nice balls to Isaiah Bond, he also missed

2157
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 3: a couple of open targets for Isaiah Bond downfield. It's

2158
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 3: just it's not a good offense. They didn't run the

2159
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 3: ball well at all. They didn't really stand much of

2160
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 3: a chance. They just looked like a team that was

2161
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 3: outclassed on in all three phases of the game, which

2162
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 3: has been pretty much the story for them all year.

2163
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 3: Today might have been the first time where I was like, yeah,

2164
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 3: I don't think hevins defans, he's going to survive.

2165
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 2: Like, oh man, right, I was there a month ago.

2166
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 2: I was there a month ago.

2167
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 1: I just I just he's a good coach, I think,

2168
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: but I just don't think he's going to survive.

2169
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 8: Run out.

2170
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 3: They're just it's run out. There's no more tape left there.

2171
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 3: They're out.

2172
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 1: And I think it's good for DJ Moore to score

2173
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, ends up four for sixty nine

2174
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: for him. To make big plays, and Luther Burden continues

2175
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: to break out. I know he left with an injury.

2176
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,719
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like it was two series, but he leads

2177
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: the team with six catches in eighty four yards. So

2178
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: the rookies are really playing well. For the Bears. They

2179
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 1: get a big time win which puts some back in

2180
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 1: first place in the NFC North.

2181
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 24: Oh.

2182
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 3: Also, we have one more thing. I don't want to

2183
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 3: rupt you real quick, but we got one more thing.

2184
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett sack tracker. Yeah, only one and a half now.

2185
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 3: He had one and a half today, He's won away

2186
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 3: from tying the record.

2187
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 2: What a bad job.

2188
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: That's like literally the only note I wrote down, and

2189
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 1: then I don't look down at my notes. That's all

2190
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: I care about with these proud games. He's eight and

2191
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 1: a half sacks now ahead of second place. I mean

2192
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: that's a lot of sacks, Like not that many players

2193
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 1: have eight and a half sacks.

2194
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 4: You got a half sacked today. He should be a

2195
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 4: twenty two right now.

2196
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: Ban the half sack, go back, fix the Rake record book.

2197
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: For however, it's got to be half sacks are a travesty.

2198
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: It's a stupid set, and I totally agree he should

2199
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 1: have two sacks today, but he is only one away

2200
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: from tying that record. That man is one of the

2201
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 1: all time greats. You know who else is an all

2202
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: time great? Trying to think of someone in this Saints game?

2203
01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 1: How about Kim Jordan, our podcast mate here at the NFL.

2204
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: Let's go to New Orleans.

2205
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 6: Forty seven yards with six seconds left towards the Smoothie King.

2206
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 2: Said, Charlie Smith would have been a better pick.

2207
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 6: Actually, Bike Roger Waits looks, hold is down, kick is away,

2208
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 6: flag is down?

2209
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 2: Kick is good?

2210
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,720
Speaker 8: What's the flag offside? Offsides?

2211
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 13: And Charlie Smith has put the Saints off top twenty

2212
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 13: to seventeen.

2213
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 2: There's still two seconds to play the game.

2214
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: This typical NFC South annoying finish. We didn't need the

2215
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 1: penalty to kind of ruin the call. We didn't need

2216
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 1: two seconds left Kellen Moore to kind of ruin the call.

2217
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 2: Because it wasn't exactly a game winner. That was my cost.

2218
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: Induce McAllister.

2219
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,799
Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints have sweat the Carolina Panthers shook.

2220
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: They beat him twenty to seventeen. I propose that that

2221
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 1: is grounds for elimination from the playoff.

2222
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 2: Race.

2223
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 4: He just fair because the other team in the playoff

2224
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 4: race with them just lost to the Saints last week.

2225
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,560
Speaker 1: I know, it doesn't really make a wedding streak. It

2226
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. It's not really fair whatsoever. The Panthers

2227
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 1: have actually beaten some great teams this year, but they

2228
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:25,839
Speaker 1: can't beat the Saints.

2229
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 2: How did the Saints get this done?

2230
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 3: Well, if you watched last week's game against the Buccaneers,

2231
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 3: you know that Tyler Schuck channeled his inner clutch gene

2232
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, and I'll tell you what. He

2233
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 3: did it again on Sunday in the Supernome. This time

2234
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 3: he wasn't on the road, he was at home. He

2235
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 3: had an opportunity after it seemed like they'd wasted their

2236
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 3: best one fourth and one. He gets what's listed as

2237
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 3: a sack, but he tries to scramble and comes up

2238
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 3: just inches short of the line to game turnover. On downs,

2239
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 3: they get a stop, they get the ball back. They

2240
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 3: have basically like eighty yards to go and he's just

2241
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 3: slicing and dicing, just throwing it down the field. Panthers

2242
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 3: are playing soft coverage. He's taking what the defense is

2243
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 3: giving him. You can't go broke when you're taking a

2244
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 3: profit and he's taking profits all the way down the field.

2245
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 3: And then he ends up getting a one on one situation.

2246
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 3: Chris Olave versus jac Horn. He fires a bullet. Jacy

2247
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 3: Horn tries to undercut it, he misses out, doesn't intercept

2248
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 3: it or break up the pass. Olave scores celebrates tie

2249
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 3: ball game. That's when you realize, oh, Shuck's got the

2250
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 3: clutch gene. It's just ic in his veins every week.

2251
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 3: But he wasn't done. They got another stop and they

2252
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 3: got the ball back with less than a minute, and

2253
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 3: he leads them down the field with a couple of

2254
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 3: quick connections to none other than Audric Estime, who catches

2255
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 3: and runs down the field. He hits Olave one more time,

2256
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 3: and then with the clock running, they spike it and

2257
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 3: you think, okay, they're just on the edge of field

2258
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 3: goal range. We'll see if Charlie Smith can do it.

2259
01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 3: We know he's got a leg, but we'll see if

2260
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 3: he can do it. No, Kellimore dials up a QB

2261
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 3: keeper a good old quarterback draw. He runs forward. The

2262
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 3: Panthers get caught by surprise. They go after Shuck as

2263
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 3: he slides personal foul fifteen more yards and now we're well.

2264
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 4: Within field goal range and the rest is history.

2265
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 3: In the Saints have won two games in a row

2266
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:57,679
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five.

2267
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 2: Great play call there by kell More.

2268
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I think this was easily their best win of the

2269
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 1: season in terms of they showed great fight and some

2270
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: of the play calling was really inventive. And I love

2271
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 1: them calling that QB sneak there when the Panthers are

2272
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: just giving it to you, and I think a bad

2273
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: job by there By a Giro Everro for the Panthers

2274
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and a good job by Shuck selling it

2275
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: a little bit too on the hit, but there was

2276
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: multiple flags they were calling that regardless. And he's done

2277
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:34,040
Speaker 1: it enough Nick that it's absolutely a pattern. He is

2278
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,839
Speaker 1: playing his best late in these games, and he's really

2279
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: good in the hurry up situation. I bring it back

2280
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 1: to the preseason game I went to. The one time

2281
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: he looked great was in the hurry up and he

2282
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: has absolutely brought that forward. For them to get off

2283
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: eight plays in under a minute, I mean they got

2284
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 1: the ball back with less than a minute, they get

2285
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: eight plays off, and before that they get seven plays

2286
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: off in a p pretty quick drive to get that

2287
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: tying touchdown. He's been great and just a killer loss

2288
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: for a Panthers team that that's trying to win the division.

2289
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, a blown opportunity for the Panthers.

2290
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the Buccaneers lose and you think, all right,

2291
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 3: this is our opportunity to get a game lead in

2292
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 3: this very tight battle. We're going to ascend while they

2293
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,599
Speaker 3: descend and fall apart, and Todd Bowles with an exploit

2294
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 3: of laced rant after their loss, Right, this is when

2295
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 3: we sees the moment.

2296
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 4: Now, this is when we let the.

2297
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 3: Saints back into the game and lose a tough one

2298
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 3: in the Superdome that we're definitely gonna wish we had

2299
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 3: back by the time this regular season ends. It's rough

2300
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 3: because I thought for two weeks in a row, I

2301
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 3: was going to get a game in which we had

2302
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 3: a total of eight possessions for each team, you know,

2303
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 3: one of those weird games. Because the Panthers are going

2304
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 3: on these methodical, very long scoring drives and Bryce Young

2305
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,480
Speaker 3: makes a beautiful pass to Jalen Kocher down the sideline

2306
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 3: for a touchdown, and I'm thinking, here we go. They're

2307
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 3: going to do just enough to win, but I forgot

2308
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 3: about the fact that Tyler Schuck was standing on the

2309
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 3: other sideline there to ruin the Panthers.

2310
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 2: He's becoming a shuckhead. I love it.

2311
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 4: I've gotta get a better nickname than that.

2312
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 2: He's going to be the same starting quarterback next year.

2313
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, what did I say this week? He's

2314
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 4: got the goods, he just needs reps.

2315
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the goods or not.

2316
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 1: They're down to seventh in Tankathon, tied with a couple

2317
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 1: of teams, but right now they're at seventh. Now that

2318
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:14,639
Speaker 1: they're four and ten, I just think he's played well

2319
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: enough that they're gonna want to see more. And I

2320
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: certainly expect Kellen Moore to be back in everything, and

2321
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna push it forward. And I think

2322
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,719
Speaker 1: that makes sense at this point, the way that he's played.

2323
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 1: He keeps playing better each and every week. And yeah,

2324
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: it was a game with very few possessions and the

2325
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: Panthers get the ball three times in the fourth quarter,

2326
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: they don't score, and the Saints play their best then

2327
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: And I misspoke on our Thursday Night pod, I had

2328
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: it wrong kind of thinking about well, if you know

2329
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Bucks split. Now the Bucks could

2330
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 1: lose the division and it wasn't could, it was they would.

2331
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 1: And if the Panthers had just won this game shook,

2332
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: they could have won the division next week just by

2333
01:46:58,040 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: beating the Bucks the first time, because all they needed

2334
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: was a split. And so that's really what changes in

2335
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 1: terms of the stakes. Now the Bucks are right back

2336
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,639
Speaker 1: pretty much on even ground, although the Panthers I believe,

2337
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 1: have the tiebreaker right now, and it just gives life.

2338
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,120
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like we talked about with the Bears,

2339
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 1: they pass a certain test, like blowing out a team

2340
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: you're supposed to. Well, the Panthers not only didn't blow

2341
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:21,759
Speaker 1: out the Saints, they got swept by the Saints.

2342
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 3: I also think that this part of the season is

2343
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 3: such an interesting examination of the psychology of different NFL

2344
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 3: teams because I compare that to the game we just

2345
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 3: talked about, Like, the Browns look like they're ready for

2346
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 3: vacation right the Saints are playing their tails off for

2347
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, like they're playing with full effort as if

2348
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 3: they're in the playoff race. The Panthers are somewhere in

2349
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 3: between where they don't really know how to handle the

2350
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,680
Speaker 3: fact that they're at a playoff race and get a

2351
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 3: job done and take care of business in a game

2352
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 3: like this, and the Buccaneers can't figure anything out. Like

2353
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,480
Speaker 3: you can be in so many different places in December

2354
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 3: in the NFL, and oftentimes where you are, your record

2355
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 3: doesn't reflect that, which is why it's so fascinating.

2356
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they're at seven and seven and I think

2357
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 1: a big concern for the Panthers is the run game

2358
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: success has really fallen off the map over the last

2359
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 1: five or six weeks, So they just have slimmer margin

2360
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: for era. We'll see between them and the Bucks, who

2361
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 1: is the better flawed team. Speaking of flawed teams, let's.

2362
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 2: Get to Sunday night.

2363
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: The Vikings and the Cowboys may have some wartz, but

2364
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: they are fun to watch.

2365
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 25: What's Hawkins in emotion first and goal JJ looking right,

2366
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 25: throwing right, cot touchdown, Shalon Newer with a tune touchdown

2367
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 25: game and the Minnesota Vikings have taking off thirty to

2368
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 25: twenty three lead.

2369
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh, it's great to hear a happy Paul Allen on

2370
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Vikings radio. The second touchdown for Lucky Naylor on the night.

2371
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 1: We're calling him Lucky from now on. I don't know

2372
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 1: when that happened. I missed it. The first one was

2373
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 1: a die from JJ McCarthy. Vikings win thirty four to

2374
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:58,879
Speaker 1: twenty six. The Cowboys are all but eliminated from playoff contention.

2375
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: The Vikings were officially eliminated earlier on Sunday, while the

2376
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: other NFC teams won but took. The season goes on

2377
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: long enough for JJ McCarthy to suddenly be a hero

2378
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, and it's gone long on long

2379
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 1: enough for the Cowboys defense to be the worst, and

2380
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: then everyone says Jerry saved the season, and now we're

2381
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: right back to being one of the worst again.

2382
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 2: The season is rather long, but we're getting to the end.

2383
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 3: And the marathon continues long enough for your over under

2384
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 3: choice with the Cowboys to be in peril as we

2385
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 3: have three more games left in the schedule now, ye yeah, bring.

2386
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 1: It up if you don't think that. That's all I

2387
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 1: was thinking about. Could they win two out of these

2388
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 1: last three during this game? And should I actually send

2389
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: out a tweet about like, oh, it's been a journey

2390
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: if you've been tracking this over under. But I don't

2391
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 1: want it to make it all about me, let's make

2392
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: it about the Cowboys. It's the most Cowboys way to

2393
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: tank the season. You beat the two Super Bowl teams

2394
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: from a year ago, who I know are not at

2395
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 1: their best, and then you followed that up with these

2396
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 1: back to back losses, including giving up thirty four points

2397
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: to this Vikings team.

2398
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, the Cowboys defense is back to being terrible.

2399
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 3: It's back to not being able to stop the run

2400
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 3: on crucial downs. It's back to getting bullied in the

2401
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 3: interior in the trenches on a night when they didn't

2402
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 3: even give up a ton of rushing yards but just

2403
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 3: in key spots, couldn't get stops in third and short

2404
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 3: and fourth and short, and ultimately, yeah, you give up

2405
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 3: a gross total to JJ McCarthy led offense that a

2406
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, two three weeks ago was basically

2407
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 3: dead on arrival as soon as they took the field,

2408
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 3: and then they put up a bunch of points against

2409
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 3: the low the opponent last week, and now suddenly they

2410
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,759
Speaker 3: can apparently throw the ball over the yard because JJ's

2411
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:37,599
Speaker 3: worst pass was one of his first of the night

2412
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 3: that resulted in a bad interception.

2413
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 4: The rest of the night was pretty good for him.

2414
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,799
Speaker 1: That was literally his first pass, I believe, and you're thinking, Okay,

2415
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be a long night, but no, they

2416
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 1: moved the ball well, and I think last week they

2417
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 1: managed him well and he played well within the scheme

2418
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,679
Speaker 1: and that was true tonight to some degree.

2419
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 2: But he had some great throws. He has a.

2420
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 1: Seamball to Dotkinson that he absolutely ripped. He had that

2421
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 1: bomb to Addison. The first touchdown that I mentioned to

2422
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 1: Naylor was money. He looked great tonight and I know

2423
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys offense has made a lot of quarterbacks

2424
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 1: look great, and so maybe they had the right answers

2425
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 1: to the test, but he got to show off his athleticism.

2426
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 1: He's doing the gritty like before he gets in the

2427
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 1: end zone on a rushing touchdown.

2428
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 2: This final month.

2429
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 1: Could be really big for JJ McCarthy and the Vikings

2430
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: just feel better about themselves.

2431
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 2: They're looking more like the Vikings team we expected.

2432
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Vikings fans are gonna lament the fact that

2433
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 3: he came too late, but it's all encouraging signs of

2434
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 3: progress going into next season, which is all you can

2435
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 3: look toward now that you're eliminated from playoff contention. You know,

2436
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 3: on that as he's grittying across the goal line and

2437
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 3: watching the way he's holding the football and I'm thinking,

2438
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 3: oh God, don't drop it. Don't don't drop the ball

2439
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 3: doing the gritty, Please don't drop the ball. But we

2440
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 3: have one more thriller we need to bring up that

2441
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 3: I thought was his best throw the night of any

2442
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 3: which was the fourth and three play where he hits

2443
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 3: Naylor on a twenty three yard or down the right

2444
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 3: side where he throws a back shoulder to him. And

2445
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 3: this is like I think a player too sure He's

2446
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 3: sailed a pass to an open justin Jefferson and he

2447
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 3: comes right back and puts it perfectly on Naylor where

2448
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 3: the defender I think it was revel and coverage again

2449
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 3: could not make a play on it.

2450
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 4: And he did that well on the run like it was.

2451
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 4: It was an excellent toss.

2452
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 3: It shows you the glimpses of yeah, he might not

2453
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 3: have the strongest arm of the world, because if he

2454
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 3: had left, you know, a little bit more out there,

2455
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 3: I believe as Addison would have been able to catch

2456
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 3: and run it into the end zone for a touchdown

2457
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 3: instead of giving that touchdown to CJ.

2458
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 4: Ham, which shot out for a fullback touchdown.

2459
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 3: We love those, but he still has this accuracy that

2460
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 3: comes and goes, and I think we'll be fixed over

2461
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 3: time with more work with Kevin O'Connell. You know, he's

2462
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 3: talked a lot about marrying the eyes and the feet,

2463
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 3: and you're seeing small steps of progress. But you know,

2464
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 3: give him a year or two. If they give him

2465
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 3: that long of a leash, maybe he gets a lot

2466
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 3: better in that department. It becomes a more complete quarterback.

2467
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 3: Because I'll tell you what, We've always known this about him.

2468
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 3: He's a gamer and he's a tough player, and he

2469
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 3: definitely showed that off tonight.

2470
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've gone to eleven personnel, so yeah, three

2471
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 1: wide receivers on the field at all times and changing

2472
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: the offense a little bit and it's worked. So you

2473
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 1: could either look at that as a positive or wonder

2474
01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 1: maybe they should have done that before. But that's neither

2475
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: here nor there. It's just funny to me that the

2476
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys had so many things go right this year. Dak

2477
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 1: playing great, the rise of Pickins, you know, the trade

2478
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 1: for Quinn Williams looks great for a while, and then

2479
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 1: here they are with the defense looking worse than ever,

2480
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 1: we learned that Treron Diggs was not activated for this game,

2481
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: and it sounds like he might be done with the

2482
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys for good. Revel comes back from that injury he struggled,

2483
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: which he's coming off a serious injury. I'm going to

2484
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:30,679
Speaker 1: give some grace to a rookie, and we're questioning George

2485
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 1: Pickens's effort, who had another mediocre game, and even Dak

2486
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 1: Prescott said, like I could tell like he didn't have

2487
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 1: it pretty early last week, and that was a game

2488
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: to go to Ceedee lamdmore So, it's just more of

2489
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: the same and it's disappointing.

2490
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 2: They have not officially been eliminated.

2491
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 1: But if the Eagles beat the Commanders on Saturday next

2492
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 1: week that's one of those Saturday games, then the Cowboys

2493
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 1: will be officially eliminated. So they're done. And I was

2494
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 1: looking at that Christmas slate. I feel bad for Netflix here,

2495
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, as bad as you can feel for like

2496
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,919
Speaker 1: a billionaire corporation, whatever you want to call Netflix.

2497
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 2: And those games do not look great.

2498
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Four out of the six teams have already you know,

2499
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 1: been eliminated. Commanders and Cowboys are out, and now the Vikings,

2500
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:19,680
Speaker 1: of course are out.

2501
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 2: And the Chiefs.

2502
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: Who would have thought the Chiefs in big spot would

2503
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: would kind of be a dead team walking. But just

2504
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:29,560
Speaker 1: to recap the day before we say goodbye, the Chiefs eliminated,

2505
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: the Vikings eliminated, the Bengals have been officially eliminated. And yes,

2506
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 1: as Jordan mentioned, the Saints, I mean the Rams rather

2507
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 1: have clinched the playoff spot. They're the only team in

2508
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 1: the NFC to do so, and the Broncos should have

2509
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 1: given them their flowers are the first to do so

2510
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 1: do so.

2511
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: In the AFC.

2512
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 1: And this raises the final big picture thought I'll have

2513
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 1: for you, Shook. I'm all about these playoff races, and

2514
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of really good games and seedings, and

2515
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: we still got to figure out who's gonna win the

2516
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 1: AFC North between the Steelers and the Ravens, they got

2517
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: a big matchup. We got to figure out who's gonna

2518
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 1: win the NFC South. We got to figure out who's

2519
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna win the NFC West. And of those first two divisions,

2520
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: only one team is gonna make the playoffs.

2521
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 2: There's actually not a lot.

2522
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 1: To decide in these wildcard races down the stretch. I

2523
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, if the Lions have two games

2524
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: to make up on the forty nine ers or else

2525
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: we know who's making it in the NFC, and then

2526
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: forty nine ers have a tough closing slate there where

2527
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: where they could lose two games they finished with the

2528
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 1: Bears and the Seahawks. The Lions do have hope and

2529
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: in the AFC, unless Philip Rivers leads the Colts on

2530
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: like kind of a miracle run, we kind of know

2531
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 1: who all.

2532
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 2: The teams are gonna be in the AFC as well.

2533
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Just figuring out who's gonna win the AFC North a

2534
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: little disappointing.

2535
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, the puzzle pieces can still move around with some

2536
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 3: of these division battles still being up for grabs, you know,

2537
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 3: Houston making interesting the South with Indianapolis and also with Jacksonville.

2538
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 3: But ultimately, yeah, for the most part, we know it's

2539
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 3: a bad time for the in the hunt graphic because

2540
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 3: you're losing, right, And so I think to close all

2541
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 3: of that, I'll just say, in honor of our dear

2542
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 3: friend Chris Westling, to all the teams that you just listed,

2543
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 3: he going they go.

2544
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 4: They're all gone.

2545
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm glad you raised that point because the

2546
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: division races are great, and we have a lot of

2547
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 1: matchups that are going to be playoff preview type games

2548
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 1: and really decides seeding, including that Rams Seahawks game on

2549
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: Thursday night where the Rams can be thinking either we're

2550
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 1: going to be home and indoors and have a buy

2551
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 1: or we're potentially on the road and playing outdoors for

2552
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: three weeks. So it's a lot of those types of games. Broncos, Chargers,

2553
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: Patriots and Bills. We still don't know who's going to

2554
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 1: win that division, Texans and Jaguars. Who's gonna win there?

2555
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 1: But you have the wildcard races not done, but they're

2556
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: kind of decided, and you know what could be even

2557
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 1: further decided. Dolphins playing to stay alive on Monday Night Football,

2558
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: obviously a massive game for the Pittsburgh Steelers. You and

2559
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:01,320
Speaker 1: I Shook will be recapping the game live on YouTube.

2560
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:03,840
Speaker 1: Steelers and Dolphins appreciate you, my friend.

2561
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, and I'd really appreciate it if somehow

2562
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 3: a football could get stuck in the mud at Akroshuer

2563
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 3: Stadium and just repeat that great moment from a primetime

2564
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 3: game between these two teams years ago.

2565
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: Okay, hit the music I totally agree, and I think

2566
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: that's going to be a fun game. That game means

2567
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 1: a lot. So we were thinking of taking the YouTube

2568
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 1: live and just putting that on Thursday, but why not

2569
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 1: do it on both nights. So we're going live on

2570
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: YouTube after each one of those games. Bummer of a

2571
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 1: day with Parsons and Holmes and DeVante, but the football

2572
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: carried us through. Join us Monday night. We'll see you

2573
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: that