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Speaker 1: taking over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready, It's
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Speaker 1: know here in the off season, it's never a bad
Speaker 1: time to look over the block wall into the backyard
Speaker 1: of your neighbor. Ron Wolfley. And if you happen to
Speaker 1: notice that Amazon has hired our competition here on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: al Michaels and Kirk kerk Street. Okay, at about probably
Speaker 1: million dollars per game. I mean, anyway, I bring that problems.
Speaker 1: I just bring it up because you know, not only
Speaker 1: is Amazon paying those guys, but they're also paying the
Speaker 1: NFL one billion dollars per year over the next eleven
Speaker 1: years for Thursday Night Football. And I you know, what
Speaker 1: about the original Thursday Night Football? What about the Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert? Where's the
Speaker 1: big bag for the Big Red Rage? You know, Polly,
Speaker 1: why not just go with a decade, you know, and
Speaker 1: even ten right there? Why was it the eleven bully?
Speaker 1: Why did they need that one more year added on
Speaker 1: right there? I don't know. It's a mystery to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there you go. That's us thought i'd bring that
Speaker 1: up right off the top here, not to say there
Speaker 1: isn't news. Okay, boy do we have We have news,
Speaker 1: including today Kyler Murray he spoke, Yes, he did speak,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals quarterback. I don't know if he's spoke in
Speaker 1: all caps, but I do know Darren Urban was out
Speaker 1: there to cover it. I don't know if he fouled
Speaker 1: his story and all all caps on acy Cardinals dot com.
Speaker 1: But Darren Urban will join us here during this edition
Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage. What's one question, Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 1: you'd like an answer too from Darren Urban, who witnessed
Speaker 1: a couple of charity events. Kyler Murray out there presenting
Speaker 1: speaking a big some big big checks to a couple
Speaker 1: of great causes. Yeah, that's a great question right there.
Speaker 1: Just how much twelve personel are we gonna use? Paul?
Speaker 1: You know that is where I'm gonna start. You know
Speaker 1: this is where I'm I am so jacked up about
Speaker 1: this very thing, right there, Paul, I'll start with twelve okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Well we'll start with a different question. I guarantee,
Speaker 1: okay when Darren Urban joins us momentarily other headlines this week,
Speaker 1: because I'm just gonna set forth and then you choose
Speaker 1: where you want to go. Nick Vigil signs to provide
Speaker 1: depth in the inside lineback a room. Colt McCoy is
Speaker 1: back on a two year deal. We'll hear from Colt
Speaker 1: McCoy a little bit later. Zeke Turner, you're specialty four
Speaker 1: time Special Team pro bowler. The Special Team's ace and
Speaker 1: hard hitter is Zeke Turner. He is back. Aaron Brunner,
Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer and Andy Lee speaking of special teams, right,
Speaker 1: so continuity for Matt Prader. Those two guys are back,
Speaker 1: the long snapper and punterer, respectively. And then of course
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, we're going to get
Speaker 1: into what might be the craziest NFL season ever. The
Speaker 1: offseason has just been off the hook. Let's start with
Speaker 1: the phase of the game that matters the most, Paul,
Speaker 1: that being, of course, transition, that being the special team.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to start with Zeke Turner. Yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: here we will go. Can you say our five L five.
Speaker 1: Zeke Turner loves to come down our four L four, Paul,
Speaker 1: R five L five of course, coming down the railroad
Speaker 1: track X on kickoff cover right there, that's where Zeke
Speaker 1: Turner lives. He also lives R four L four, which
Speaker 1: is the next guy outside of that, in between the
Speaker 1: numbers running down the field. Anytime, Polly, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this, Polly, but anytime you cover a
Speaker 1: kick the middle of the field, in between the numbers,
Speaker 1: somebody could get hurt, Paul, And I mean somebody could
Speaker 1: go down, if you know what I mean. Finally, we
Speaker 1: have something in common because as someone who covered many
Speaker 1: a kick at Leland High School, Okay down, I went
Speaker 1: many times on kickcover. Believe me. I went down with effort,
Speaker 1: but I went down. Yes, you know, Polly also too,
Speaker 1: just talking about some of the topics you brought up momentarily,
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy, I have to tell you right now that
Speaker 1: really gets me jacked up. Colt McCoy, he was here,
Speaker 1: correct may if I'm wrong, Polly, but he was here
Speaker 1: on a one year contract. Of course. Last year I
Speaker 1: would say that he had a really big impact on
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Of course, in mentoring Kyler Murray, I think
Speaker 1: it's so important you've got those models. You've got guys
Speaker 1: like a Colt McCoy that can walk around that locker room,
Speaker 1: who's got the respect of so many of his teammates,
Speaker 1: a guy that went out on the field, got three starts,
Speaker 1: of course, and earned the reputation and went out in
Speaker 1: one two of those three games, and suddenly you could
Speaker 1: just see the impact he had on this team last year, Paul.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he's coming back for two more years.
Speaker 1: This is big time. And it's not like he went
Speaker 1: out there in those two wins and just managed the game. No,
Speaker 1: won the game. He had a passer rating a one
Speaker 1: twenty in a game he had a passer rating to
Speaker 1: one thirteen in the other game, and they ran a
Speaker 1: very dynamic, drecy, more balanced and different offense than I
Speaker 1: know you enjoyed watching. Yeah, and you know what, PAULI too.
Speaker 1: Everyone says, oh, yeah, but the Carolina game, you know
Speaker 1: the care Oh my goodness, nobody played in that game, Paul,
Speaker 1: Nobody did it. It was awful that that third game.
Speaker 1: Of course, man, it just everybody struggled in that game.
Speaker 1: I'm talking all three phases ball. There were two games.
Speaker 1: There were two games where it really wasn't an l
Speaker 1: as much as it was a DOA, and that was
Speaker 1: Carolina in Detroit where they just they had no pulse.
Speaker 1: They just came out and there wasn't anything any quarterback
Speaker 1: virtually could have done in that situation. So you know, now,
Speaker 1: as for as for Nick Vigil, for example, Okay, there's
Speaker 1: the second guy they signed from outside the team, and
Speaker 1: he'll come in and yes, he's the guy who had
Speaker 1: the pick six against Kyler for the Vikings in Week two.
Speaker 1: But if he hit zoom out here wolf, you know,
Speaker 1: you've seen it all the snarky tweets from some of
Speaker 1: the Cardinals fans. If you comment on anything, you'll get
Speaker 1: a tweet with a meme of the tumble weeds right
Speaker 1: or the crickets chirping and and and look after the
Speaker 1: last two off seasons, we get it. I mean there
Speaker 1: were splash moves al grande. When you trade or d
Speaker 1: hop and you sign a J. J. Watt, It just
Speaker 1: it seems like everyone is waiting for Steve Kim to
Speaker 1: yelle cannonball and come off the high dive like Ron Burgundy,
Speaker 1: right and make the big splash in the deep end.
Speaker 1: And based on what we've seen so far and where
Speaker 1: this is tracking, guess what, I don't think it's coming. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: you know, once again, Steve Kim for the most part,
Speaker 1: has made his big splash. And I think you'd agree
Speaker 1: with me on this. In the trade market, that's where
Speaker 1: he has done really, really well, where he has made
Speaker 1: some incredible trades. And just look at some of the
Speaker 1: trades throughout the franchise. One of the best trades in
Speaker 1: history DeAndre Hopkins just start right there, and Rodney Hudson
Speaker 1: that that one isn't far behind right there either. That's huge.
Speaker 1: Steve Kim has always done well in terms of the
Speaker 1: trade market, go all the way back to Carson bomber Ball.
Speaker 1: I mean that one that was pretty good, right there,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. I mean, when this offseason started, you were
Speaker 1: so right. I made the joke half jokingly saying, you
Speaker 1: know what, they should turn him into a used car dealer.
Speaker 1: You know those old commercials used to see the dealing ist,
Speaker 1: you know, just unleashed Steve Khim. Let him go to work.
Speaker 1: Just let him go out there and see what sort
Speaker 1: of trades he can broker. Because you're right, that has
Speaker 1: been his area of expertise and most success as a GM.
Speaker 1: So I'd never say that Steve Khim was all about
Speaker 1: the big free agent splash, right, the big free agent signing.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, you know. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I would say Steve Kim has built his reputation as
Speaker 1: a kind time sign that right there, where suddenly you
Speaker 1: get a guy, as they did James Conner a year ago.
Speaker 1: James Connor signed him late in the free agent period
Speaker 1: to a one year contract. I considered that to be
Speaker 1: a kind time sign. He signed guys even later than
Speaker 1: that going into training camp as well. So that's where
Speaker 1: I think he really specializes, not in the big splash
Speaker 1: free agent market. That's not him. And remember, not every
Speaker 1: first way free agent is well bought. Historically, many of
Speaker 1: these big money contracts are going to be utter flops.
Speaker 1: And dare I say Jordan Phillips was one of them.
Speaker 1: You know, he got paid eighteen point five million guarantees
Speaker 1: for seventeen starts over two years. Think about that, Think
Speaker 1: about what that does to the calf and it's just
Speaker 1: the dead money left behind over nine million dollars. So
Speaker 1: you know, proceed with caution in a lot of these contracts. No,
Speaker 1: you're right about that, Paulie. That was very, very disappointing.
Speaker 1: And going back and looking at Jordan Phillips and the
Speaker 1: last year he played with the Buffalo Bills and what
Speaker 1: he was able to accomplish for them. Man, it's hard
Speaker 1: to imagine that he came here and played in on
Speaker 1: seventeen games. You said, Paul, seventeen starts, oh my, eighteen
Speaker 1: point five million guarantees, And you're right, he wasn't nearly
Speaker 1: the same player he was in Buffalo. And that is
Speaker 1: always it with free agency, Paul. That has always been
Speaker 1: the huge concern, not only with owners but also with
Speaker 1: general managers and coaches as well. The fact you would
Speaker 1: go out and sign a guy to big money. You'll
Speaker 1: always have to ask the question, what is that big
Speaker 1: money gonna do to the man? What is that big
Speaker 1: money going to do to the player? Here's the other question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and look, this leads us into our next topic, which
Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray, who spoke today two different charity events.
Speaker 1: Darren Irbo was there. He'll join us next. But good
Speaker 1: part of the reason that there hasn't been the big
Speaker 1: expenditure yet on a big name free agent is because
Speaker 1: guess what, they got to pay the quarterback and that
Speaker 1: deal is coming and because of that they have to
Speaker 1: allocate space under the cap accordingly. That is the question
Speaker 1: hanging out there. It's a question we'll pose to Darren Urban.
Speaker 1: We'll get the latest on what Kyler Murray had to
Speaker 1: say today. He joined the Airs on a Cardinal season
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Speaker 1: Have you seen the Cardinals home schedule? It is loaded,
Speaker 1: Darren Urban. Next on the Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert got to throw Murray in trouble,
Speaker 1: spins out of there to his left, being chased by
Speaker 1: two vikings and launches a deep, wide open near side
Speaker 1: of the forties Mondel mr Cock at the thirty half
Speaker 1: the twenty at the fifteen ten five cupdown, Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: you are ridiculous. Murray matchick seventy seven yard tops down
Speaker 1: past ninety nine point nine percent of the quarterbacks on
Speaker 1: the planet gets sacked. But not only does Kyra Murray
Speaker 1: not get sacked, he throws a touchdown. Nasty us Nasty
Speaker 1: does and we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty.
Speaker 1: The stuff you see in dreams and in video games,
Speaker 1: but not in the NFL. WHOA. It was about five
Speaker 1: ws at the end of that while Ron Wolfley there,
Speaker 1: Dave pash Ron Wolfley here, I'm the big red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Pennsilanac soon'll be
Speaker 1: joined by Darren Urban. That was a Minnesota Vikings game.
Speaker 1: Wolf And that was the seventy seven yard catch and
Speaker 1: run by Rondelle Moore after the scramble drill there by
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. He went twenty nine to thirty six for
Speaker 1: four hundred yards, passing that game three touchdowns at a
Speaker 1: passer radia nearly one eighteen and the key play. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at my notes from that game. If you remember,
Speaker 1: it was fourth and five at the Minnesota forty one.
Speaker 1: You're down thirty three thirty one, and Kyler against the
Speaker 1: zero blitz office back foot, he throws the thirty five
Speaker 1: yard to Christian Kirk across the middle. That's set up
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal. Yeah, that was huge. And
Speaker 1: you know what, Paul, I think back to the first
Speaker 1: seven in eight games of the season. I really do.
Speaker 1: I think back to it, Paul, and that's when this
Speaker 1: offense was humming. That's when this offense was downright lethal.
Speaker 1: I think of the first five games where Max Williams
Speaker 1: went out there and got the start, and Max Williams
Speaker 1: brought so much balance and the way Kyler Murray. Do
Speaker 1: you remember in the first half of the season, the
Speaker 1: way he was spreading the ball all over the field
Speaker 1: and everybody was getting their touches in. How balanced the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals were in terms of running the ball. Remember
Speaker 1: they were top three in run rate, PAULI for the
Speaker 1: first what twelve weeks of the season. Yep, yep. And
Speaker 1: you're right. There were the games where he's in seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine different receivers in a game. And yet the last
Speaker 1: impression we had was arguably the worst game of his
Speaker 1: NFL career playoff game. Yeah, and that led into the
Speaker 1: offseason and things have gotten sideways obviously in the off season.
Speaker 1: As Kyler half joke today, every time I got on Twitter, quote,
Speaker 1: I was trending, let's hear from Kyler. Okay, let's hear
Speaker 1: from Kyler. Here's what he had to say. He was
Speaker 1: out there, and of course he was asked about his
Speaker 1: future and the pending contract question. Kyler Murray today, I'm
Speaker 1: my Arizona Cardinal. You know I've done nothing, but you know,
Speaker 1: give him all to the Cardinals. I wouldn't continue to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, So I'm not really too worried about
Speaker 1: my future as a cardinal. I key football football. I
Speaker 1: let people whoever have to take care of that stuff
Speaker 1: to take care of that stuff. I'll I worried about
Speaker 1: was playing good all food. There you go, Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: a couple of different answers to a couple of different questions.
Speaker 1: The first time he has met the media since well
Speaker 1: since the agent issued the All Cats manifesto, right, and
Speaker 1: he had the scrubbing to the Instagram account, and so
Speaker 1: what'd you make of just his approach today Wolf and
Speaker 1: the demeanor he was from the from the video. He's
Speaker 1: all smiles, he was interacting, he threw some passes to
Speaker 1: the kids and the Boys and Girls club, he did
Speaker 1: trivia with some of the teachers out of Desert Financial.
Speaker 1: Just you're taking you know what first of all, Paul
Speaker 1: eight after way to go Kyler, I mean, well done
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray for doing what he is doing and offering
Speaker 1: up that kind of money. Of course, right it's for
Speaker 1: one check because so once again ye foundation, Yep, that's
Speaker 1: exactly right, Polly, Well done Kyler Murray. That's number one
Speaker 1: right there. Um. I listened to Kyler Murray, especially the
Speaker 1: first cut that you played right there. That to me
Speaker 1: is I'm going to put that into the positive column. Paul.
Speaker 1: He sounded, he sounded hopeful that things were going well
Speaker 1: and that he was happy to be an Arizona Cardinal
Speaker 1: and that maybe this is me reading into it, but
Speaker 1: maybe Paul, they're getting things ironed out with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Cardinals and Kyler Murray are getting things ironed
Speaker 1: out on this possible extension or non extension or when
Speaker 1: this extension might actually happen. But I put that squarely
Speaker 1: in the positive column. Yeah. I mean, if you told
Speaker 1: me that this essentially boils down to Kyler playing the
Speaker 1: good cop and his agent playing the bad cop, I'd
Speaker 1: believe you. It's been done before many a time. Right.
Speaker 1: That's why you have an agent to be the bad guy,
Speaker 1: to be the buffer between you and the team. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt that there's business going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: There's the want by team Kyler for a new contract.
Speaker 1: And if you believe, for example, they album Breer blurb
Speaker 1: in Monday Afternoon Quarterback this week in Sports Illustrated where
Speaker 1: he said that team Kyler wants a new contract by
Speaker 1: the draft. That was Albert Brier. Now we presume he's
Speaker 1: talking directly to the agent. Okay, there are wants, and
Speaker 1: then there's precedent. As we know, all six other big
Speaker 1: contracts that have been awarded to a quarterback after year
Speaker 1: three have all been done in June, July, August, or September.
Speaker 1: So was the team figuring on that sort of timetable
Speaker 1: if at all, after his third year. I mean, these
Speaker 1: are all big questions that are looming over this whole process. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only other thing, Paul, that I would say right here,
Speaker 1: you're correct and everything you said. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: the good cop bad cop thing you have to remember
Speaker 1: you tell your agent what to do. You tell your
Speaker 1: agent what to do. Every professional athlete has got to
Speaker 1: do that. Now, listen, Do you listen to your agent,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Do you take his counsel?
Speaker 1: Do you take his advice? Yes, but your agent listens
Speaker 1: to you. You tell your agent what to do. And
Speaker 1: that is the only thing that I would advise Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray in this regard is that they really are one
Speaker 1: and the same. Even though you might have good cop
Speaker 1: bad cop, you tell your agent what to do because
Speaker 1: he works for you. And right now we listen to
Speaker 1: Darren Urban who joins us on the Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Darren spent the afternoon
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. So just give us a quick summary,
Speaker 1: maybe some of your initial takeaways. D Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys hit a lot of what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I mean, the questions were inevitable today given the fact
Speaker 1: that he hadn't been in front of any media basically
Speaker 1: since the post game of the Rams game, the Rams
Speaker 1: playoff game, and obviously all this stuff has happened since then,
Speaker 1: so it was going to come up, even if I
Speaker 1: think I think the hope was of the of the
Speaker 1: event coordinators that it wasn't going to come up and
Speaker 1: that was just going to be about the community aspect
Speaker 1: of it, but that it was just natural that it
Speaker 1: was going to be talked about. And I thought Kyler
Speaker 1: handled it really well. I mean, there's only so many
Speaker 1: things you can say. Obviously he could have said some
Speaker 1: things that caused a lot of news. I don't think
Speaker 1: he really did. Other than the fact that he talked,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to say much other than what
Speaker 1: he did say. But I thought he handled himself well.
Speaker 1: And I think at this point it feels like things
Speaker 1: have calmed down quite a bit from where they were.
Speaker 1: And you know what that means exactly. We will have
Speaker 1: to see. Um. You know, it's easy to say a
Speaker 1: couple of things today. Well, we'll find out what happens
Speaker 1: when the team gets together on a voluntary basis and
Speaker 1: what happens and go from there. Yeah. You know, for me,
Speaker 1: derb I was looking at it and thinking, man, the
Speaker 1: question he didn't have to take questions right? Well, he
Speaker 1: couldn't He have just said I'm not going to I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about my contract situation whatsoever. Don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he could have said, yeah, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about that right now, and uh, and that would have
Speaker 1: been his right to do, right. I think if he
Speaker 1: does that, you know, he probably knows. I mean, let's
Speaker 1: let's not get it twisted. Uh. You know, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: themselves and the media relations staff weren't involved in this.
Speaker 1: This was a Kyler thing because it's with him and
Speaker 1: his sponsors. But I would be stunned if Kyler didn't
Speaker 1: have a conversation with his agent saying Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go do this, and they talked about how he was
Speaker 1: going to address stuff because he had no it was coming.
Speaker 1: So you know, I yeah, he could have said I'm
Speaker 1: not really talking about any of this, but that also
Speaker 1: brings up you know, if you if you decide not
Speaker 1: to talk about stuff, that also brings with its speculation,
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe that's maybe that's why they did
Speaker 1: what they did exactly. It's sort of like the Instagram thing, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, the absence of information, you get speculation, and
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So I know we have joke today
Speaker 1: that he said, and I'm loosely quoting, you know, every
Speaker 1: time I got on Twitter, I was trending for like
Speaker 1: a five week you know sequence there. But he did
Speaker 1: nothing to extinguish that either, did he. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: I think that's true to a certain extent. I mean,
Speaker 1: even if he had, I mean, he could have extinguished
Speaker 1: the Instagram stuff. But as soon as the statement came
Speaker 1: out from his agent about wanting a contract, he was
Speaker 1: going to be trending. Because that's where we are. And
Speaker 1: you know, that's what the national media especially is doing
Speaker 1: these days, is as they talk about all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I honestly, I think it actually gained a little
Speaker 1: bit of steam. Given all the other quarterback movement we've
Speaker 1: had in the NFL, I made it a lot easier
Speaker 1: to say, you know, in years past, the talk about
Speaker 1: Kyler being traded would be dumb. I mean, it just
Speaker 1: would be dumb. I would have been dumb for a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys. But now that we're actually seeing
Speaker 1: some of this stuff happen, it's not so far fetched anymore,
Speaker 1: you know, that being said, Kyler's not going anywhere, But
Speaker 1: it brought a little bit of credibility to Willing to
Speaker 1: talk about it all the time on whatever platform you
Speaker 1: might have. You know, for me, Derb I was looking
Speaker 1: at it just the fact he was answering questions in
Speaker 1: regard to the contract situation, answering questions in regard to
Speaker 1: being an Arizona cardinal. I have to tell you, I
Speaker 1: mean I saw that as a positive. I did I
Speaker 1: move that into the positive column, as I like to say,
Speaker 1: just the fact that he was willing to address us
Speaker 1: that your thoughts on that, um, I would say it's
Speaker 1: better than the alternative, as you like to say. I mean,
Speaker 1: I do think it's better than the alternative. I don't
Speaker 1: you know, it's he said what I would expect him
Speaker 1: to say in such a situation. You're right, he could
Speaker 1: have said nothing if he was really upset about stuff.
Speaker 1: But you know the other part of that is you're
Speaker 1: at an event where you're trying to give away money
Speaker 1: and have it be a happy event. If you're Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray or Kyler Murray's people, you also don't want to
Speaker 1: turn something like that into ah, you know, Kyler's angry
Speaker 1: at the team situation where it really wasn't you You
Speaker 1: were able to keep keep the focus on giving away
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars to the Arizona Educational Foundation and the
Speaker 1: Boys and goals called to the valley each and and
Speaker 1: I think that's also a good reason to want to
Speaker 1: like answer some questions and kind of keep things low key. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is why though, d I just want to jump
Speaker 1: in here and say, it's why I saw it as
Speaker 1: a positive that he was even doing it, because once again,
Speaker 1: I think it would be so easy for Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: just to say, hey, guys, I'm not here to talk
Speaker 1: about that. I'm not here today to talk about Well,
Speaker 1: they they try to do that. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: when you're in front of the media, you know, it's
Speaker 1: and you haven't had a chance to talk to the athlete.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's one thing to ask them not
Speaker 1: to ask any football questions, which was done by the
Speaker 1: PR people around the event, and obviously he was still
Speaker 1: willing to talk about it, which I thought was a
Speaker 1: good thing. Well, here's okay, last last question you can
Speaker 1: all answer, including myself, and then we'll move on. When
Speaker 1: Kyler says, I'm not really too worried about my future
Speaker 1: as a cardinal, quote unquote, are you worried? I'm not
Speaker 1: I think this is part of the process. There might
Speaker 1: be a little more drama than everyone expected. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's any question he's part of the Cardinal's future.
Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley, Yeah, you know what, Paul, Honestly, right now,
Speaker 1: I do. I think he's going to get an extension
Speaker 1: at some point in time. I think the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: are going to do that. I would want to see
Speaker 1: one more year, but sometimes you know what, just because
Speaker 1: you wish it, you don't always get what you want,
Speaker 1: isn't that right? Ball? Yeah, what do you want to
Speaker 1: see next for the Cardinals? In free agency? Darren Irban?
Speaker 1: There's our segue? Where would you start? You know? And
Speaker 1: you and up, Paul, You and I have talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot. I mean, I think at this point
Speaker 1: it's clear that they're going to be smart about any
Speaker 1: kind of signings, you know, kind of one year deal
Speaker 1: type of things, because they either didn't get the people
Speaker 1: they wanted or they just don't see the need to
Speaker 1: spend the money on the people that were available. But
Speaker 1: you know, I still am concerned about pass Rusher. That
Speaker 1: is a position that to me is the number one
Speaker 1: thing that catches my attention. Obviously, a number two wide
Speaker 1: receiver and even cornerback are things that would behind the list,
Speaker 1: But pass rusher is the one position that I'm really like, Okay,
Speaker 1: where does this team go without? Right now? All right, derb,
Speaker 1: I have to ask you this right now. When I
Speaker 1: say zach Ertz, when I say James Connor, when I
Speaker 1: say Max Williams, when I say, um, let's see justin pew,
Speaker 1: what do you think of I think of guys that
Speaker 1: are all going to be on the team next year,
Speaker 1: and they better play well because that's who the crux
Speaker 1: your offense is going to be. It's a bit of
Speaker 1: a trick question. Here we go, Here we go. I
Speaker 1: got sucked in by this last week. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: right now, you let Christian Kirk go. And of course,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was surprised once you saw the
Speaker 1: contract that Christian Kirk gotten by the way, way to go,
Speaker 1: see Kirk, Way to go, baby, I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: was surprised the Arizona Cardinals could not pay him that.
Speaker 1: But I see a paradigm shift from three wide receivers
Speaker 1: to two tight ends in rundown situation when you've got
Speaker 1: zach Ertz and Max Williams and James Connor as you're
Speaker 1: running back and you signed Justin Pew of course a
Speaker 1: very underrated year. As a matter of fact, I would
Speaker 1: say last year to me was Justin Pew's best year
Speaker 1: as an Arizona cardinal. Yes, I will say this a
Speaker 1: couple of different things. One, I don't think you need
Speaker 1: to I don't think anybody should get ahead of themselves
Speaker 1: on Max Williams. I want the man blew out his knee.
Speaker 1: I have. I love Max Williams. I hope he comes back.
Speaker 1: I need to see him out and doing stuff before
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well they're going to base an offense around
Speaker 1: having him out there on the field. That's number one
Speaker 1: and then number two. I don't know if it's going
Speaker 1: to be a paradigm shift as much to me. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the years at Texas Tech, Cliff Kingsbury had
Speaker 1: a tight end and his name escapes me right now.
Speaker 1: Who is one of his top receivers, And that's because
Speaker 1: that's who he had ad And I don't think anybody's
Speaker 1: going to confuse zach Ertz with some big inline tight end.
Speaker 1: He in a lot of ways is just a bigger
Speaker 1: kind of wide receiver in a lot of way. And
Speaker 1: if you're not getting a number two wide receiver, maybe
Speaker 1: it's just the fact that zach Ertz is that pass
Speaker 1: catcher that you're looking to have in there. Now. Obviously
Speaker 1: you're not gonna split him wide all the time. But
Speaker 1: I just don't see this gigantic shift of changing. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: I hope you're wrong. I know, I hope you're wrong
Speaker 1: right there. So you still see them going with eleven
Speaker 1: personnel three wide receivers as their primary personnel group? Is
Speaker 1: that what I do? And I think they might, you know, again,
Speaker 1: use earths out there. I could they use a little
Speaker 1: bit more twelve for sure, But I still think in
Speaker 1: the end Close Kingsbury is who he is. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk about running this team back in this roster back,
Speaker 1: and we did on Cardinal's Underground this week, Darren, but
Speaker 1: aj Green might be back. Reportedly Robert Alford visited the
Speaker 1: Cardinals today even though he's been a Cardinal the last
Speaker 1: two or three years, right, So, I mean these are
Speaker 1: names that might be back in the fold. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you guys make in terms of a need
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position now, especially after the Jeff Gladney signing.
Speaker 1: I mean, Darren, give us your thoughts. There is that
Speaker 1: a want or a need at this point in the
Speaker 1: secondary well, I mean, I think they're going to need
Speaker 1: another cornerback. You know, now, is Robert Alford willing to
Speaker 1: come in and you know, play for a very cheap
Speaker 1: contract and fight and potentially end up being fourth on
Speaker 1: the depth chart if that's what they decide. I'm sure
Speaker 1: Robert Alford feels like he's going to be higher than that.
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, if you're going to bring
Speaker 1: in guys on cheaper contracts, it's not the worst thing
Speaker 1: in the world to bring in somebody that already knows
Speaker 1: your system, whether it's Robert Alford on defense or Aj
Speaker 1: Green on offense. I mean, I'm a little surprised Green
Speaker 1: is still in the picture. I thought they would move
Speaker 1: on from him. But if he does end up coming back,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that just says what they had out
Speaker 1: there and who they were willing to go after and
Speaker 1: what they're measuring. I mean, they're not doing this in
Speaker 1: a vacuum. You know, they're obviously comparing that possibility to
Speaker 1: another other possibilities they have, and they are determining if
Speaker 1: they go on that route, that the bringing those guys
Speaker 1: back makes more sense than bringing in somebody new. DIRB
Speaker 1: Once again, how much do you think the fact that
Speaker 1: Kyler Marie and his agent want this extension this offseason,
Speaker 1: how much of that do you think has inhibited them
Speaker 1: in terms of this free agent period out there right now? Well,
Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't think that inhibits inhibits them at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, whether the Kyler and his desire for a
Speaker 1: new contract, I don't. I don't understand why that would
Speaker 1: have any kind of impact on going out and getting
Speaker 1: free agents. It shouldn't. You know, you've got a cap
Speaker 1: number with Kyla right now that you can work with,
Speaker 1: and then you've got a cap number. I mean, Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes ended up having a lower cap number than Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray last year. So if you sign it Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: to a new deal, you could probably work it where
Speaker 1: his cap number is not going to grow this year.
Speaker 1: In fact, that would be a big reason to do
Speaker 1: an extensions. You might be able to keep it low
Speaker 1: or even make it lower for next year when it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be almost thirty million dollars. So that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be an inhibited factor at all in my and I
Speaker 1: guess you know, we kicked it around earlier, and actually
Speaker 1: I was the one who brought it up. In sure,
Speaker 1: you can do you know the kaponomics, and Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: can get two hundred and thirty million guaranteed over what
Speaker 1: four years in his base salary can be one million
Speaker 1: this year. I get it. But if you're going after
Speaker 1: a big name free agent and there's competition, he's going
Speaker 1: to need a big, long term contract, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden a contract extension to Kyler would inhibit you
Speaker 1: in year two, three, or four, perhaps that might have
Speaker 1: been a barrier to getting deals done with some of
Speaker 1: these bigger names. Perhaps I'm not exactly sure. But Darren,
Speaker 1: if we go to acyclonels dot com and we read
Speaker 1: your story about Kyler Murray hasn't been filed in all caps,
Speaker 1: that's my question. Not all cap, just regular story. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you man, Thanks Darren. There you go. Hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna come back, and I got a few things to
Speaker 1: foister on Wellefully we'll get into someone what's gone on
Speaker 1: around the league, and then Cole McCoy, you want to
Speaker 1: talk about quarterback, how about the backup in his importance
Speaker 1: here in the Big Red Rage presented by Santan ford
Speaker 1: In Gilbert snapped the McCoy straight dropback, looking left all
Speaker 1: the way and that dumps it off from the cross
Speaker 1: the middle of the Connor out of the fifteen Rex
Speaker 1: at tackle twenty twenty five get the first down. Boy
Speaker 1: Paul McCoy looked left the entire time and at the
Speaker 1: last second shifted his eyes to the right, Connor to
Speaker 1: the ten, to the five and end of the ends
Speaker 1: off of the touchdown. Cole McCool, the cool veteran, went ahead,
Speaker 1: bought himself a little bit of time that split seconds.
Speaker 1: McCoy takes the snap, uff baked to the right, throws
Speaker 1: over the middle. It's caught inside the ten yard line
Speaker 1: by ergs down at a five, perfectly executed, great read
Speaker 1: by Colt McCoy. Gorgeous tossed by Colt McCoy. Oh, that
Speaker 1: is a greasy throw by Colt McCoy. Right there, spin
Speaker 1: that pig. Colt shotguns snapped to McCoy, balls loose on
Speaker 1: the ground, He picks it up, throws over the middle. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's caught for a touchdown. By arts up on Colt
Speaker 1: McCoy picking up a loose ball on the turf and
Speaker 1: throwing a pass over the middle for a big touchdown.
Speaker 1: Here about that A twenty twenty one montage of Colt
Speaker 1: McCoy courtesy of our Jim Almahundro. You had a Week
Speaker 1: nine win at the forty nine Ers, where the Cardinals
Speaker 1: had four hundred and thirty seven total yards behind Colt McCoy,
Speaker 1: a quarterback who went twenty two or twenty six for
Speaker 1: two forty nine a passerating and one nineteen. You also,
Speaker 1: as a team, Ron Wolf ran thirty nine times for
Speaker 1: a buck sixty three at the forty nine ers, a
Speaker 1: Niners defense that was an NFC Championship game, by the way, right.
Speaker 1: And then in Week eleven at the Seahawks, a twenty
Speaker 1: three thirteen win there, Cole McCoy got the start thirty
Speaker 1: five or forty four, three twenty eight no picks, one
Speaker 1: thirteen passer rating, and you're talking touchdown drives of sixteen,
Speaker 1: thirteen and ten plays a piece, and I think this
Speaker 1: is where you're driving. Did the Cardinals see something, especially
Speaker 1: in those two wins that said, you know what, that's
Speaker 1: when this offense was at its best. Yeah, Paulay, honestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do believe that the Arizona Cardinals wanted to be
Speaker 1: a more physical team going into last year. They wanted
Speaker 1: to be more physical, and they wanted better leadership in
Speaker 1: the locker room at least, that's the two things at
Speaker 1: Steve Kin pointed to and said, that's what he was
Speaker 1: trying to do last offseason was actually build that kind
Speaker 1: of team. So going into the twenty twenty one season,
Speaker 1: of course they could be more physical. And Paul, I
Speaker 1: think when you go back and you look at the
Speaker 1: tape and again you look at James Conner in particular,
Speaker 1: and how he was running the ball in between the tackles,
Speaker 1: whether it was that a shotgun or they were putting
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in the first half of the season, they
Speaker 1: were putting him under center more than they did in
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, and running the football
Speaker 1: in a more north south direction. That's when this offense
Speaker 1: was at its best. With Max Williams as the stud
Speaker 1: tight end. Once again, I understand he's coming off an ACL,
Speaker 1: but Paul, you know it as well as I do.
Speaker 1: The ACL is not the death sentence metaphorically speaking, that
Speaker 1: it used to be for NFL players in the past.
Speaker 1: It just isn't. It's something now. The surgery and the
Speaker 1: treatment and the rehabilitation is so good that you can
Speaker 1: come back off an ACL and be the same guy.
Speaker 1: And that's what I expect with Max Williams, and it's
Speaker 1: why they signed him as early as they did in
Speaker 1: free agency in my opinion. And when I say the
Speaker 1: offense was at its best, I'm not talking about Colt McCoy.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're a better team with Colt McCoy quarterback.
Speaker 1: To your point there, and thanks for saving me for
Speaker 1: maybe being a little confusing. I'm talking about just the
Speaker 1: balance and the power aspect of the offense during those
Speaker 1: two wins. You know, we all know that the future
Speaker 1: of football is the future at quarterback Kyler Murray as
Speaker 1: we like to call him, and Colt McCoy. After signing
Speaker 1: the two year deal and meeting the media this week,
Speaker 1: he was asked yes about Kyler Murray heading into his
Speaker 1: fourth year. Kyler's obviously extremely talented, just finished his third
Speaker 1: year in the NFL. I would say that his arrow
Speaker 1: is pointing up. I know how hard it was for
Speaker 1: me my first three years in the NFL to handle
Speaker 1: all the things that come with being a franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: and being in the NFL. And I think Kyler's handled
Speaker 1: it tremendously. You know, he's a super competitor, he wants
Speaker 1: to win, he works hard, and I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of sets the tone for our whole team. Yeah. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty five year old Colt McCoy. You know, with the
Speaker 1: Texas roots, right, Colt McCoy is going to be going
Speaker 1: into the Texas High School Hall of Fame by the way,
Speaker 1: and joining the likes of his head coach, Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: He's already a member of the Texas High School Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, and then of course Kyler Murray at some
Speaker 1: point we'll also be a member there as well. So
Speaker 1: you just have that chemistry between those two guys. And
Speaker 1: I know Kyler gets a lot of heat for when
Speaker 1: the cameras catch him and he might be miffed on
Speaker 1: the sidelines, but there's also a lot that the camera's
Speaker 1: missed when he's interacting with Colt McCoy on the bench
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, no, PAULI sorry for cutting you off
Speaker 1: their ball. I just wanted to jump in because I
Speaker 1: thought what you were saying right there. It's so true,
Speaker 1: it really is. Listen, the thing I love most about
Speaker 1: the Colton McCoy signing right now is Paul. If in
Speaker 1: fact Colt McCoy did not have a great relationship with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Colt McCoy thought he wasn't doing anything to
Speaker 1: help Kyler Murray. If in fact that was the case,
Speaker 1: Colton McCoy would not sign a two year contract with
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. This is the thing that fills me
Speaker 1: with hope. Colt McCoy looking at it and saying, Man,
Speaker 1: I want to come back and I want to be
Speaker 1: this guy that is going to mentor Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: be put in this role as the backup quarterback. That
Speaker 1: to me said so much when Zach Ertz and Colt
Speaker 1: McCoy came back and wanted to play here. And what
Speaker 1: was interesting too was how many times Colt McCoy on
Speaker 1: his own said that he sees the game and he
Speaker 1: sees offense the same way as the head coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Wolf you know, Carson Palmer and Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner were de facto offensive coordinators, especially towards the end
Speaker 1: of their career. They would not formulate a game plan
Speaker 1: until Carson Palmer had broken down the opponent on a Monday,
Speaker 1: until Kurt Warner had come in on a Monday or
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning and give his thoughts and notes on the
Speaker 1: defense they were going to see. Was only when they
Speaker 1: got the input from those guys. And think of how
Speaker 1: many defenses that Colt McCoy has seen, how many defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators he's gone against in his years, right, no doubt, Polly,
Speaker 1: it's an excellent point by you. So it's it's just
Speaker 1: a valuable resource to have in that capacity. All right.
Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, we've had certified insanity around the NFL quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: receivers and more. Let's visit some of those NFL headlines
Speaker 1: and maybe how they impact the airs on our Cardinals
Speaker 1: here in the off season. As we continue with a
Speaker 1: big red rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert and
Speaker 1: Off William coming around the left side, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: hit behind Off and I'm be covering that hit the
Speaker 1: putty putty, But funny but he cover a touchdown. No,
Speaker 1: I'm a player Hurtinals, I'm got am a bumble by
Speaker 1: hurry one of them up nineteen sixty eight nine out
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals Archives, the late great Larry Wilson the
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer an eighty eight yard fumble return at
Speaker 1: Green Bay on this day in nineteen thirty eight. Larry
Speaker 1: Wilson was born in Rigby, Idaho, would have turned eighty
Speaker 1: four today. And Wolf, you knew him very well. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean pound for pound safe to say, one of
Speaker 1: the toughest players in NFL history. Yeah, you could definitely
Speaker 1: say that, Polly, I would say the toughest guy that
Speaker 1: I've ever been around Larry Wilson. When you go back
Speaker 1: and look at some of the footage on Larry Wilson
Speaker 1: and you watch him playing out in the field with
Speaker 1: two broken hands, Paul actually intercepted a pass with two
Speaker 1: broken hands. Stop and think about that. Larry Wilson and
Speaker 1: how he played the game. He was one of the
Speaker 1: guys that actually created the Bobcat Paul. That's a free
Speaker 1: safety blitz where a free safety, a guy who usually
Speaker 1: is playing in the middle of the field or maybe
Speaker 1: playing too deep. Of course, a free safety would actually
Speaker 1: creep down late and shoot one of the a gaps
Speaker 1: between the garden center. It was called the Bobcat it
Speaker 1: was called a free safety blitz whatever it was. Larry
Speaker 1: Wilson was the guy who pioneered that, Paul. That's why
Speaker 1: when we joke when Buddha Baker had his first career interception,
Speaker 1: I think was at Dallas right two years ago and
Speaker 1: he had a cast on his hand and he had
Speaker 1: his first career interception. That's nothing, Buddha. Larry Wilson, he
Speaker 1: interception with with two casts? Are you kidding me? That's
Speaker 1: not impressive. By the way, speaking of all timers, how
Speaker 1: about John o'mahondro going into the initial class of athletic
Speaker 1: trainers right at the Hall of Fame. He's going to
Speaker 1: be honored. How about that? The initial class A guy
Speaker 1: who spent a Cardinals trainers, spent forty two seasons at
Speaker 1: the helm of that department for the years on a
Speaker 1: Cardinal So that's well back in the days. His first
Speaker 1: training camp is a great story from Darren erbanan easy
Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com. His first training camp. There are one
Speaker 1: hundred forty players and can think about that? Think about
Speaker 1: I do like to tell you everybody else out there, Polly,
Speaker 1: those spats man, that was you know Johnny o. You
Speaker 1: know Johnny O. The love that I have, the affection
Speaker 1: that I have for this guy. He was the trainer,
Speaker 1: of course when I was with the Arizona Cardinals, a
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals as well, and he basically, I know
Speaker 1: he's not really gonna be happy with me for saying this,
Speaker 1: but he's basically like my mom my football mom, because
Speaker 1: he how many times you'd be out in the field
Speaker 1: right there and he was the first face you would
Speaker 1: see when you were done on the ground. It was
Speaker 1: Johnny O. And there he was, and it was like
Speaker 1: your mom. And he'd looking and say, hey, listen, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, You're gonna be all right. Everything's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine, right, Jim Machine Sheer. Of course he'd look
Speaker 1: and say, man, what a richard you are? You sure
Speaker 1: you weren't asking for your mommy at that point after
Speaker 1: you got Jack stop by Lawrence Taylor. That's what I
Speaker 1: want to know. By the way NFL headlines, let's go
Speaker 1: through him real quick, okay. Seattle trades Russell Wilson to
Speaker 1: the Broncos, Deshaun Watson is in Cleveland, Matt Ryan to
Speaker 1: the Colts, Carson Wentz with the Commanders now that's just
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Then you have the guys to get after
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, Khalil Mack. And then it was Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: to the Raiders, obviously, Zadarius Smith, even Yanike and Gockway
Speaker 1: going to the Colts over there. And then the receivers,
Speaker 1: I mean, first off, Christian Kirk resetting the market. You
Speaker 1: can blame Christian Kirk and the Jacksonville Jaguars because then
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams said, you know what, I need a brand
Speaker 1: new deal for NFL record receiver money. He got it
Speaker 1: in the trade to the Raiders. And then this week
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill traded from Casey to Miami. He is now
Speaker 1: the highest paid player ever at his position. Well, Polly,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I mean the Russell Wilson thing is absolutely huge,
Speaker 1: but I have to tell you it's Tyreek Hill. It
Speaker 1: is Tyreek Hill. Did you think that we're gonna trade Tyan?
Speaker 1: Did you hear anything about Tyreek Hill being out of
Speaker 1: Kansas City? Paul and point in time, let me let
Speaker 1: me throw some night. Somebody tweeted this out name the
Speaker 1: last time Andy Reid lost a trade, and then he
Speaker 1: went and named Alex Smith. Donovan McNabb Oh, Kevin Cobb.
Speaker 1: We know about Kevin Cobb. A. J. Feeley, Marcus Peters,
Speaker 1: D four, Fido Shepherd name the last time Andy Reid
Speaker 1: lost a trade? Which makes that intriguing, does it not? Yes,
Speaker 1: it does, Paulie, and I have to tell you right now,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill made that offense, hum Man, He really did.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is a great quarterback. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: This guy is so excellent and so good. But Tyree
Speaker 1: Hill changed that offense. Paul You had to account every
Speaker 1: time you had to know where Tyree Hill was lined up.
Speaker 1: He provided aid, comfort and shelter in a lot of
Speaker 1: space for guys like Travis Kelsey running those short and
Speaker 1: intermediate routes because everyone else was playing so deep because
Speaker 1: of Tyreek Hill. He changed that offense. Dear what he
Speaker 1: said today he did as a press commerce said, wherever
Speaker 1: I go, the Cheetah he always has to prove he's
Speaker 1: the fast this guy and the team, no matter what.
Speaker 1: He went third person about himself, He has challenged any
Speaker 1: comers on this new team, the Dolphins, to a foot race.
Speaker 1: He says he has to prove he is the fastest
Speaker 1: guy in any team he's on and so, by the way,
Speaker 1: he got seventy two million guarantee guaranteed. I mean, did
Speaker 1: you ever think we go in the offseason and say,
Speaker 1: you know what that guy got Christian Kirk money Special.
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