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It doesn't 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:59.800 get any better than that horn. Unleash the fiar. You 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.800 know here in the off season, it's never a bad 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.800 time to look over the block wall into the backyard 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.240 of your neighbor. Ron Wolfley. And if you happen to 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:17.039 notice that Amazon has hired our competition here on Thursday night, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:22.800 al Michaels and Kirk kerk Street. Okay, at about probably 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.760 million dollars per game. I mean, anyway, I bring that problems. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.320 I just bring it up because you know, not only 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.880 is Amazon paying those guys, but they're also paying the 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:38.520 NFL one billion dollars per year over the next eleven 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:43.120 years for Thursday Night Football. And I you know, what 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.959 about the original Thursday Night Football? What about the Big 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.280 Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert? Where's the 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.840 big bag for the Big Red Rage? You know, Polly, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.760 why not just go with a decade, you know, and 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.360 even ten right there? Why was it the eleven bully? 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.520 Why did they need that one more year added on 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.120 right there? I don't know. It's a mystery to me. Yeah, 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.440 so there you go. That's us thought i'd bring that 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.840 up right off the top here, not to say there 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.400 isn't news. Okay, boy do we have We have news, 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:15.120 including today Kyler Murray he spoke, Yes, he did speak, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.000 the Cardinals quarterback. I don't know if he's spoke in 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.160 all caps, but I do know Darren Urban was out 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.760 there to cover it. I don't know if he fouled 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.880 his story and all all caps on acy Cardinals dot com. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.560 But Darren Urban will join us here during this edition 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.240 of The Big Red Rage. What's one question, Ron Wolfley, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.440 you'd like an answer too from Darren Urban, who witnessed 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.480 a couple of charity events. Kyler Murray out there presenting 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.880 speaking a big some big big checks to a couple 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.320 of great causes. Yeah, that's a great question right there. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.760 Just how much twelve personel are we gonna use? Paul? 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.960 You know that is where I'm gonna start. You know 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.840 this is where I'm I am so jacked up about 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.440 this very thing, right there, Paul, I'll start with twelve okay, 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.960 all right, Well we'll start with a different question. I guarantee, 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:01.040 okay when Darren Urban joins us momentarily other headlines this week, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.120 because I'm just gonna set forth and then you choose 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.960 where you want to go. Nick Vigil signs to provide 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.720 depth in the inside lineback a room. Colt McCoy is 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.560 back on a two year deal. We'll hear from Colt 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.720 McCoy a little bit later. Zeke Turner, you're specialty four 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.320 time Special Team pro bowler. The Special Team's ace and 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.720 hard hitter is Zeke Turner. He is back. Aaron Brunner, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.840 Aaron Brewer and Andy Lee speaking of special teams, right, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.440 so continuity for Matt Prader. Those two guys are back, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.840 the long snapper and punterer, respectively. And then of course 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.440 at the end of the show, we're going to get 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:35.800 into what might be the craziest NFL season ever. The 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.080 offseason has just been off the hook. Let's start with 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.640 the phase of the game that matters the most, Paul, 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.840 that being, of course, transition, that being the special team. 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.520 So I'm going to start with Zeke Turner. Yeah, baby, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.520 here we will go. Can you say our five L five. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.320 Zeke Turner loves to come down our four L four, Paul, 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.600 R five L five of course, coming down the railroad 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.960 track X on kickoff cover right there, that's where Zeke 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.480 Turner lives. He also lives R four L four, which 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.400 is the next guy outside of that, in between the 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.440 numbers running down the field. Anytime, Polly, I don't know 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.080 if you know this, Polly, but anytime you cover a 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.560 kick the middle of the field, in between the numbers, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.919 somebody could get hurt, Paul, And I mean somebody could 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.760 go down, if you know what I mean. Finally, we 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.240 have something in common because as someone who covered many 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.200 a kick at Leland High School, Okay down, I went 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.440 many times on kickcover. Believe me. I went down with effort, 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.080 but I went down. Yes, you know, Polly also too, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.680 just talking about some of the topics you brought up momentarily, 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.880 Colt McCoy, I have to tell you right now that 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.480 really gets me jacked up. Colt McCoy, he was here, 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.400 correct may if I'm wrong, Polly, but he was here 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.400 on a one year contract. Of course. Last year I 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.640 would say that he had a really big impact on 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:00.280 Kyler Murray. Of course, in mentoring Kyler Murray, I think 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.440 it's so important you've got those models. You've got guys 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.719 like a Colt McCoy that can walk around that locker room, 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.920 who's got the respect of so many of his teammates, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.320 a guy that went out on the field, got three starts, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.840 of course, and earned the reputation and went out in 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:24.159 one two of those three games, and suddenly you could 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.720 just see the impact he had on this team last year, Paul. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.520 And the fact that he's coming back for two more years. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.760 This is big time. And it's not like he went 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.479 out there in those two wins and just managed the game. No, 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.120 won the game. He had a passer rating a one 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:39.720 twenty in a game he had a passer rating to 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.839 one thirteen in the other game, and they ran a 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:47.800 very dynamic, drecy, more balanced and different offense than I 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.400 know you enjoyed watching. Yeah, and you know what, PAULI too. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.000 Everyone says, oh, yeah, but the Carolina game, you know 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.400 the care Oh my goodness, nobody played in that game, Paul, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.440 Nobody did it. It was awful that that third game. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:08.000 Of course, man, it just everybody struggled in that game. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.880 I'm talking all three phases ball. There were two games. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.840 There were two games where it really wasn't an l 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:15.880 as much as it was a DOA, and that was 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.440 Carolina in Detroit where they just they had no pulse. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.040 They just came out and there wasn't anything any quarterback 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:27.720 virtually could have done in that situation. So you know, now, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.800 as for as for Nick Vigil, for example, Okay, there's 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.320 the second guy they signed from outside the team, and 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.240 he'll come in and yes, he's the guy who had 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.040 the pick six against Kyler for the Vikings in Week two. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.359 But if he hit zoom out here wolf, you know, 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.000 you've seen it all the snarky tweets from some of 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.839 the Cardinals fans. If you comment on anything, you'll get 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.159 a tweet with a meme of the tumble weeds right 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.880 or the crickets chirping and and and look after the 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.080 last two off seasons, we get it. I mean there 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.240 were splash moves al grande. When you trade or d 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.600 hop and you sign a J. J. Watt, It just 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.560 it seems like everyone is waiting for Steve Kim to 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.640 yelle cannonball and come off the high dive like Ron Burgundy, 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.080 right and make the big splash in the deep end. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.120 And based on what we've seen so far and where 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.960 this is tracking, guess what, I don't think it's coming. Yeah, Paul, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.480 you know, once again, Steve Kim for the most part, 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.400 has made his big splash. And I think you'd agree 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.600 with me on this. In the trade market, that's where 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:35.320 he has done really, really well, where he has made 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:39.080 some incredible trades. And just look at some of the 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.920 trades throughout the franchise. One of the best trades in 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:48.360 history DeAndre Hopkins just start right there, and Rodney Hudson 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:53.440 that that one isn't far behind right there either. That's huge. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.520 Steve Kim has always done well in terms of the 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.720 trade market, go all the way back to Carson bomber Ball. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.280 I mean that one that was pretty good, right there, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.320 wasn't it. I mean, when this offseason started, you were 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.840 so right. I made the joke half jokingly saying, you 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.760 know what, they should turn him into a used car dealer. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.280 You know those old commercials used to see the dealing ist, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.200 you know, just unleashed Steve Khim. Let him go to work. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.080 Just let him go out there and see what sort 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.360 of trades he can broker. Because you're right, that has 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.640 been his area of expertise and most success as a GM. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.679 So I'd never say that Steve Khim was all about 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.360 the big free agent splash, right, the big free agent signing. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.200 I wouldn't say that, you know. At the same time, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.760 I would say Steve Kim has built his reputation as 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.760 a kind time sign that right there, where suddenly you 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.439 get a guy, as they did James Conner a year ago. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.280 James Connor signed him late in the free agent period 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.240 to a one year contract. I considered that to be 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.959 a kind time sign. He signed guys even later than 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.520 that going into training camp as well. So that's where 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.600 I think he really specializes, not in the big splash 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:10.280 free agent market. That's not him. And remember, not every 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.720 first way free agent is well bought. Historically, many of 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.600 these big money contracts are going to be utter flops. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.280 And dare I say Jordan Phillips was one of them. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.040 You know, he got paid eighteen point five million guarantees 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:29.240 for seventeen starts over two years. Think about that, Think 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.800 about what that does to the calf and it's just 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.160 the dead money left behind over nine million dollars. So 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.760 you know, proceed with caution in a lot of these contracts. No, 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.400 you're right about that, Paulie. That was very, very disappointing. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.520 And going back and looking at Jordan Phillips and the 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.720 last year he played with the Buffalo Bills and what 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:55.720 he was able to accomplish for them. Man, it's hard 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.120 to imagine that he came here and played in on 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.319 seventeen games. You said, Paul, seventeen starts, oh my, eighteen 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:06.000 point five million guarantees, And you're right, he wasn't nearly 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.600 the same player he was in Buffalo. And that is 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.120 always it with free agency, Paul. That has always been 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.200 the huge concern, not only with owners but also with 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.160 general managers and coaches as well. The fact you would 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.120 go out and sign a guy to big money. You'll 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.160 always have to ask the question, what is that big 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.040 money gonna do to the man? What is that big 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:37.040 money going to do to the player? Here's the other question. Yeah, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.240 and look, this leads us into our next topic, which 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.640 is Kyler Murray, who spoke today two different charity events. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.400 Darren Irbo was there. He'll join us next. But good 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.160 part of the reason that there hasn't been the big 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.640 expenditure yet on a big name free agent is because 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.720 guess what, they got to pay the quarterback and that 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.840 deal is coming and because of that they have to 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:06.240 allocate space under the cap accordingly. That is the question 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.960 hanging out there. It's a question we'll pose to Darren Urban. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:10.719 We'll get the latest on what Kyler Murray had to 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.040 say today. He joined the Airs on a Cardinal season 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.360 ticket priority list adasy Cardinals dot com slash priority lists. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.240 Have you seen the Cardinals home schedule? It is loaded, 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.120 Darren Urban. Next on the Big Red Rage presented by 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.679 santan Ford in Gilbert got to throw Murray in trouble, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.640 spins out of there to his left, being chased by 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.640 two vikings and launches a deep, wide open near side 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.480 of the forties Mondel mr Cock at the thirty half 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.520 the twenty at the fifteen ten five cupdown, Kyler Murray, 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:43.959 you are ridiculous. Murray matchick seventy seven yard tops down 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.839 past ninety nine point nine percent of the quarterbacks on 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.160 the planet gets sacked. But not only does Kyra Murray 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:56.800 not get sacked, he throws a touchdown. Nasty us Nasty 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:01.040 does and we all know that Kyler Murray is nasty. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.920 The stuff you see in dreams and in video games, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:10.360 but not in the NFL. WHOA. It was about five 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.079 ws at the end of that while Ron Wolfley there, 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.600 Dave pash Ron Wolfley here, I'm the big red Rage 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.360 presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Paul Pennsilanac soon'll be 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.280 joined by Darren Urban. That was a Minnesota Vikings game. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.360 Wolf And that was the seventy seven yard catch and 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.360 run by Rondelle Moore after the scramble drill there by 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.480 Kyler Murray. He went twenty nine to thirty six for 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.199 four hundred yards, passing that game three touchdowns at a 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.439 passer radia nearly one eighteen and the key play. I'm 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.240 looking at my notes from that game. If you remember, 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.000 it was fourth and five at the Minnesota forty one. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.480 You're down thirty three thirty one, and Kyler against the 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.600 zero blitz office back foot, he throws the thirty five 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.319 yard to Christian Kirk across the middle. That's set up 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.680 the game winning field goal. Yeah, that was huge. And 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.600 you know what, Paul, I think back to the first 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.080 seven in eight games of the season. I really do. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.679 I think back to it, Paul, and that's when this 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:11.040 offense was humming. That's when this offense was downright lethal. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.000 I think of the first five games where Max Williams 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.760 went out there and got the start, and Max Williams 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.599 brought so much balance and the way Kyler Murray. Do 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.000 you remember in the first half of the season, the 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.520 way he was spreading the ball all over the field 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.840 and everybody was getting their touches in. How balanced the 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.520 Arizona Cardinals were in terms of running the ball. Remember 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.800 they were top three in run rate, PAULI for the 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.079 first what twelve weeks of the season. Yep, yep. And 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.640 you're right. There were the games where he's in seven, eight, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:47.320 nine different receivers in a game. And yet the last 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.240 impression we had was arguably the worst game of his 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.320 NFL career playoff game. Yeah, and that led into the 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:57.760 offseason and things have gotten sideways obviously in the off season. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.920 As Kyler half joke today, every time I got on Twitter, quote, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.320 I was trending, let's hear from Kyler. Okay, let's hear 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:06.440 from Kyler. Here's what he had to say. He was 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.280 out there, and of course he was asked about his 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:13.240 future and the pending contract question. Kyler Murray today, I'm 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.040 my Arizona Cardinal. You know I've done nothing, but you know, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.920 give him all to the Cardinals. I wouldn't continue to 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.600 do that. Yeah, So I'm not really too worried about 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.920 my future as a cardinal. I key football football. I 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:26.640 let people whoever have to take care of that stuff 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.280 to take care of that stuff. I'll I worried about 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.840 was playing good all food. There you go, Kyler Murray 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.200 a couple of different answers to a couple of different questions. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.880 The first time he has met the media since well 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.000 since the agent issued the All Cats manifesto, right, and 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.120 he had the scrubbing to the Instagram account, and so 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.840 what'd you make of just his approach today Wolf and 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.480 the demeanor he was from the from the video. He's 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.040 all smiles, he was interacting, he threw some passes to 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.280 the kids and the Boys and Girls club, he did 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.080 trivia with some of the teachers out of Desert Financial. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.400 Just you're taking you know what first of all, Paul 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.560 eight after way to go Kyler, I mean, well done 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:07.080 Kyler Murray for doing what he is doing and offering 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.080 up that kind of money. Of course, right it's for 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:15.800 one check because so once again ye foundation, Yep, that's 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:19.280 exactly right, Polly, Well done Kyler Murray. That's number one 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.880 right there. Um. I listened to Kyler Murray, especially the 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.560 first cut that you played right there. That to me 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.560 is I'm going to put that into the positive column. Paul. 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:34.680 He sounded, he sounded hopeful that things were going well 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.840 and that he was happy to be an Arizona Cardinal 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:41.440 and that maybe this is me reading into it, but 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.520 maybe Paul, they're getting things ironed out with the Cardinals. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.800 Maybe the Cardinals and Kyler Murray are getting things ironed 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.400 out on this possible extension or non extension or when 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:56.320 this extension might actually happen. But I put that squarely 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.640 in the positive column. Yeah. I mean, if you told 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.800 me that this essentially boils down to Kyler playing the 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.280 good cop and his agent playing the bad cop, I'd 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.600 believe you. It's been done before many a time. Right. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.000 That's why you have an agent to be the bad guy, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.120 to be the buffer between you and the team. There's 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.200 no doubt that there's business going on behind the scenes. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.560 There's the want by team Kyler for a new contract. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.600 And if you believe, for example, they album Breer blurb 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.000 in Monday Afternoon Quarterback this week in Sports Illustrated where 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.320 he said that team Kyler wants a new contract by 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.600 the draft. That was Albert Brier. Now we presume he's 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.840 talking directly to the agent. Okay, there are wants, and 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.520 then there's precedent. As we know, all six other big 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.840 contracts that have been awarded to a quarterback after year 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.560 three have all been done in June, July, August, or September. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.640 So was the team figuring on that sort of timetable 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.440 if at all, after his third year. I mean, these 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.880 are all big questions that are looming over this whole process. Yeah. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.880 The only other thing, Paul, that I would say right here, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.000 you're correct and everything you said. But for the most part, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.760 the good cop bad cop thing you have to remember 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.600 you tell your agent what to do. You tell your 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:18.159 agent what to do. Every professional athlete has got to 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.520 do that. Now, listen, Do you listen to your agent, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.480 There's no doubt about that. Do you take his counsel? 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:28.080 Do you take his advice? Yes, but your agent listens 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.679 to you. You tell your agent what to do. And 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.199 that is the only thing that I would advise Kyler 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.760 Murray in this regard is that they really are one 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:40.960 and the same. Even though you might have good cop 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.720 bad cop, you tell your agent what to do because 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.400 he works for you. And right now we listen to 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.720 Darren Urban who joins us on the Big Red Rage 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.720 presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. Darren spent the afternoon 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.119 with Kyler Murray. So just give us a quick summary, 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.280 maybe some of your initial takeaways. D Well, I mean, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.119 you guys hit a lot of what I was thinking. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.800 I mean, the questions were inevitable today given the fact 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:11.440 that he hadn't been in front of any media basically 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.520 since the post game of the Rams game, the Rams 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.800 playoff game, and obviously all this stuff has happened since then, 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:22.159 so it was going to come up, even if I 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.640 think I think the hope was of the of the 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.960 event coordinators that it wasn't going to come up and 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.200 that was just going to be about the community aspect 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:31.919 of it, but that it was just natural that it 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.280 was going to be talked about. And I thought Kyler 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.640 handled it really well. I mean, there's only so many 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.080 things you can say. Obviously he could have said some 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.280 things that caused a lot of news. I don't think 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.399 he really did. Other than the fact that he talked, 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.520 I wouldn't expect him to say much other than what 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.560 he did say. But I thought he handled himself well. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.680 And I think at this point it feels like things 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:58.600 have calmed down quite a bit from where they were. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.359 And you know what that means exactly. We will have 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.600 to see. Um. You know, it's easy to say a 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.359 couple of things today. Well, we'll find out what happens 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.639 when the team gets together on a voluntary basis and 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.959 what happens and go from there. Yeah. You know, for me, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.119 derb I was looking at it and thinking, man, the 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:22.280 question he didn't have to take questions right? Well, he 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.280 couldn't He have just said I'm not going to I'm 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:28.880 not gonna talk about my contract situation whatsoever. Don't Yeah, 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.280 I mean he could have said, yeah, I'm not talking 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.879 about that right now, and uh, and that would have 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.439 been his right to do, right. I think if he 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:40.480 does that, you know, he probably knows. I mean, let's 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.639 let's not get it twisted. Uh. You know, the Cardinals 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.240 themselves and the media relations staff weren't involved in this. 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.480 This was a Kyler thing because it's with him and 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.920 his sponsors. But I would be stunned if Kyler didn't 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.840 have a conversation with his agent saying Okay, I'm gonna 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.600 go do this, and they talked about how he was 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.800 going to address stuff because he had no it was coming. 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.800 So you know, I yeah, he could have said I'm 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.720 not really talking about any of this, but that also 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.119 brings up you know, if you if you decide not 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.399 to talk about stuff, that also brings with its speculation, 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.800 So you know, maybe that's maybe that's why they did 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.760 what they did exactly. It's sort of like the Instagram thing, right, 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.080 I mean, the absence of information, you get speculation, and 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.960 that's what happened. So I know we have joke today 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.240 that he said, and I'm loosely quoting, you know, every 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.199 time I got on Twitter, I was trending for like 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.760 a five week you know sequence there. But he did 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.840 nothing to extinguish that either, did he. Yeah. I mean 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.160 I think that's true to a certain extent. I mean, 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:43.280 even if he had, I mean, he could have extinguished 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:48.640 the Instagram stuff. But as soon as the statement came 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:50.919 out from his agent about wanting a contract, he was 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.320 going to be trending. Because that's where we are. And 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:58.760 you know, that's what the national media especially is doing 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.600 these days, is as they talk about all this stuff. 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:05.080 And I honestly, I think it actually gained a little 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.520 bit of steam. Given all the other quarterback movement we've 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.480 had in the NFL, I made it a lot easier 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.320 to say, you know, in years past, the talk about 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.840 Kyler being traded would be dumb. I mean, it just 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:18.280 would be dumb. I would have been dumb for a 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.720 lot of these guys. But now that we're actually seeing 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.960 some of this stuff happen, it's not so far fetched anymore, 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:28.080 you know, that being said, Kyler's not going anywhere, But 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.879 it brought a little bit of credibility to Willing to 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.520 talk about it all the time on whatever platform you 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.080 might have. You know, for me, Derb I was looking 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.479 at it just the fact he was answering questions in 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:46.439 regard to the contract situation, answering questions in regard to 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.119 being an Arizona cardinal. I have to tell you, I 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.960 mean I saw that as a positive. I did I 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.080 move that into the positive column, as I like to say, 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.280 just the fact that he was willing to address us 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:04.760 that your thoughts on that, um, I would say it's 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.560 better than the alternative, as you like to say. I mean, 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.600 I do think it's better than the alternative. I don't 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:14.359 you know, it's he said what I would expect him 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:18.000 to say in such a situation. You're right, he could 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:21.760 have said nothing if he was really upset about stuff. 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:27.800 But you know the other part of that is you're 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:29.840 at an event where you're trying to give away money 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.920