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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully
Speaker 1: everyone had a fun time watching Monday night football. We
Speaker 1: had a barn burd halftime nine nine. But the Steelers
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and most importantly Russell Wilson and the deep
Speaker 1: ball pull away. They're six and two. So the Steelers
Speaker 1: go to six and two. The Giants meanwhile go to
Speaker 1: two and six and have parlayed that offseason hard knocks
Speaker 1: where everyone was making fun of him into a bad
Speaker 1: season which most people saw coming. So we'll talk about
Speaker 1: this game. We'll hit on from Tomlin to Russell to
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, the day ball. A lot going on, big
Speaker 1: picture with these teams. We'll do a little my penthouse
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Speaker 1: have a new addition and Rogers might be involved. Got
Speaker 1: to hit on the viral video of Tyreek Stevenson and
Speaker 1: kind of what I would do if I ran the Bears.
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson tapping out in that game was something I
Speaker 1: wasn't really alerted to until this morning because I had
Speaker 1: the game on mute, so you just can't quite So
Speaker 1: I saw that video go viral, It's like damn. Then
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Speaker 1: got to start this off with a hat tip and
Speaker 1: a salute and just you know, an overall thumbs up
Speaker 1: to Mike Tomblin because one, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people that listen definitely to me and Colin when we
Speaker 1: do our shows me over the years, think I'm like
Speaker 1: a Tomlin hater. It's impossible to not think Mike Tomlin
Speaker 1: is a good coach, but we're also when you go
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and have a winning record every year,
Speaker 1: you get compared to the other really good coaches, and
Speaker 1: he hasn't won a playoff game in a long time.
Speaker 1: And coming into this season, I thought they were gonna
Speaker 1: be worse. I thought that nine ten wins of getting
Speaker 1: in as the seventh seed and being one and done,
Speaker 1: I thought this would be the year they don't even
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I was wrong. At six and two.
Speaker 1: They could cruise the second half of the season and
Speaker 1: go five and four and have eleven wins and be
Speaker 1: a lock wild card team. But it's clear that they
Speaker 1: have a very very good chance to win the division.
Speaker 1: And the move he made two weeks ago, as he
Speaker 1: said It's why I'm so highly compensated. I thought was insane. Uh,
Speaker 1: not just because I don't think. I didn't think Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson was good anymore, but it was working what they
Speaker 1: were doing, playing defense, running justin fields, and he saw
Speaker 1: something that was not sustainable. And we say it all
Speaker 1: the time, like when guys go from coordinators two head coaches.
Speaker 1: A lot of you guys listening or watching, I'm sure
Speaker 1: going positions where you start managing people, you're in charge,
Speaker 1: and you realize it's a lot different when you're just
Speaker 1: giving suggestions than the one making the decisions. And listen,
Speaker 1: I wasn't alone when I thought, like, you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson one. I didn't even believe him. I
Speaker 1: thought he was messing with the Jets. And then when
Speaker 1: they go into the locker room with George Pickens like
Speaker 1: that Thursday or Friday, and they're trying to be mom
Speaker 1: about it, he's like, hey, he's a starting quarterback. We've
Speaker 1: been working after practice. It was pretty clear like yeah,
Speaker 1: this is happening. And then in that game started rocky.
Speaker 1: By the end, clearly they are a much better passing
Speaker 1: team tonight, though it was a game changer for them,
Speaker 1: and he made that decision simply because and listen, Justin
Speaker 1: Fields deserves a lot of credit and he's going to
Speaker 1: extend his career for a long time. Is he a
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in this league. It's probably gonna be difficult
Speaker 1: for him to be moving forward. But when you become
Speaker 1: a backup, two things have to be accounted for your character,
Speaker 1: your work ethic, because a lot of it's not playing,
Speaker 1: how you are during the week, how you are in practice,
Speaker 1: how your teammates like him. He has been really impressive
Speaker 1: in this situation because when you get yanked and your
Speaker 1: team's winning, he could have handled it more poorly or
Speaker 1: just not I mean poorly in general. He didn't handle
Speaker 1: it poorly at all. He could have just I don't know,
Speaker 1: created a little bit of a stink, had his agent
Speaker 1: link some stuff, just been pissed off and publicly. And
Speaker 1: it feels like the way he was with Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: on the sideline the night, couldn't have handled it any better.
Speaker 1: That's maturity. That that's called being a pro. And we
Speaker 1: always say like not we but coaches always say they
Speaker 1: love saying this. You gotta be a pro. You gotta
Speaker 1: be a pro. There's also a human element to this
Speaker 1: that he was able to kind of shove to the side,
Speaker 1: keep his head down be a pro. And it's been
Speaker 1: really impressive. But they obviously don't have the running element anymore.
Speaker 1: With Russell Wilson. They ran like a quarterback sweep tonight.
Speaker 1: My guess is they ran that just to get that
Speaker 1: on film to keep defenses. Honest, Russell's not a runner.
Speaker 1: He got like three steps and slid immediately. Like that
Speaker 1: element that Justin Field's had is gone from their game.
Speaker 1: But they go, who cares, we want him to throw
Speaker 1: the ball and throw the ball downfield. And in the
Speaker 1: first half they easily should have had a touchdown to
Speaker 1: George Pickens, who only got the one foot down twice.
Speaker 1: One takeaway I had tonight from that play, which by
Speaker 1: the letter of the law, is the right call. If
Speaker 1: you get the same foot down two separate times before
Speaker 1: you go out of bounds and you're second foot never touches.
Speaker 1: That should count. Like if you watch that play, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's a human alive that goes that's not
Speaker 1: a catch. But it wasn't, and they had to settle
Speaker 1: for all these field goals, and it's whatever the score
Speaker 1: is at halftime nine to nine. The Steelers easily could
Speaker 1: have been up seventeen to nine or seventeen to six
Speaker 1: at halftime like they were moving the ball forty three
Speaker 1: yards deep ball to George Pickens, thirty six yards deep,
Speaker 1: ball to Van Jefferson, little underthrown. I think one thing
Speaker 1: that's pretty evident his arm strength. In the peak of
Speaker 1: his powers. The guy that I saw beat the shit
Speaker 1: out of the Niners in the middle of the twenty tens.
Speaker 1: It's not quite as potent, but it's still pretty good.
Speaker 1: He hit the touchdown pass to Austin, the little return
Speaker 1: guy who's dynamic little receiver as well. Friar moved down
Speaker 1: the field for a first down for eleven yards Darnell
Speaker 1: Washington on a crossing route. He was twenty of twenty
Speaker 1: eight for two hundred and eighty yards. And to me,
Speaker 1: that ball and that pressure of being able to flip
Speaker 1: the field with explosive plays was definitely something they didn't
Speaker 1: really have with justin fields and it would happen every
Speaker 1: so often, but Russell is not gonna pick you apart
Speaker 1: over the middle of the field. That's always been the
Speaker 1: knock on him, right, he doesn't like throwing over the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. And then over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years he's become a dink and dunk guy and
Speaker 1: not willing to push it and clearly whatever Tomlin does,
Speaker 1: which makes him, you know, one of the better coaches
Speaker 1: of his generation, a guy that everyone in the league respects,
Speaker 1: and a guy that just never loses, a guy that
Speaker 1: just never loses. Because you can't tell me if you
Speaker 1: take Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. The Giants were sniffing
Speaker 1: around on Russell Wilson. If you put Russell Wilson on
Speaker 1: that team, it's just not working. It's simply not It's
Speaker 1: not exactly like Pittsburgh has the ninety three Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: offensive line blocking for him. But you watch it and
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I could see this getting a little
Speaker 1: bit better. And honestly, there were some signs tonight where
Speaker 1: I said it a week ago, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this team can win a playoff game.
Speaker 1: Then Baltimore loses, and now you go, obviously they don't
Speaker 1: play each other, I think for a couple more weeks,
Speaker 1: and then again toward the end of the season, so
Speaker 1: if you just handle business there now one curveball for
Speaker 1: both those two teams is that if you told me
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson Because Baltimore just played Cleveland, Pittsburgh has
Speaker 1: not played Cleveland yet, so they both still have three
Speaker 1: remaining games. Pittsburgh has two and Baltimore has one more
Speaker 1: remaining with Cleveland. If you told me Deshaun Watson was
Speaker 1: starting all those games, I would say, pretty good chance
Speaker 1: it was a four to zero sweep by the two teams.
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario, maybe Cleveland just gets one game at home,
Speaker 1: makes the game weird some fumbles. Well, that dramatically changed
Speaker 1: because the Cleveland team you saw yesterday that took out Baltimore,
Speaker 1: like that's a real team and that's a team now
Speaker 1: obviously they beat Baltimore, but like they could be Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: as well, And that's something you didn't really have to
Speaker 1: factor in before because no one took them. Like Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson wasn't beating this team the way he was playing
Speaker 1: early in the season. Rips's Achilles Jamison bombs away and
Speaker 1: it's a tough opponent. So that's something to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on if you're a Steeler Raven fan. Right. But
Speaker 1: I just think that this passing element post Roethlisberger when
Speaker 1: they went with the Rudolphs, and they went with the
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges, and then a couple of years with Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 1: it was a joke. And Fields, who I think played
Speaker 1: much better this season than he even did last year
Speaker 1: when everyone was trying to act like he was a
Speaker 1: good player. Still as very flawed as a passer. And
Speaker 1: while Russell has things you would like him to be
Speaker 1: better at, that willingness and that touch on the deep route,
Speaker 1: on the go route, on just deeper breaking grounds, he
Speaker 1: will just let it loose and he's confident in it
Speaker 1: rip even though sometimes it's just and listen, Van Jefferson,
Speaker 1: make a play on the ball. Obviously, George Pickens, with
Speaker 1: that big body, I don't even care if it's a
Speaker 1: little under thrown as a fifty to fifty ball. We'll
Speaker 1: let our blue chip premium guy go up and make
Speaker 1: a play. You throw a fifty to fifty ball to
Speaker 1: our big ass tight end that we just extended. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll live with it. You probably got to be pretty
Speaker 1: accurate when you're throwing it to Austin, and he was
Speaker 1: tonight hit him in stride, easy touched him. So that
Speaker 1: was an impressive It's just an impressive organizational little stretch
Speaker 1: here by Mike Tomlin, by the Steelers, by Russell and
Speaker 1: Justin Fields. I said this, and I've been hammering this
Speaker 1: point home because when I went to the combine, it's
Speaker 1: just so clear. So many of these teams have no
Speaker 1: fucking shot. It's like you got no shot. It's got
Speaker 1: to be incredible if you're an owner of one of
Speaker 1: these teams, because you're gonna make money no matter what.
Speaker 1: Your team can blow, your team can win one or
Speaker 1: two games every year for a decade straight, you get
Speaker 1: the same check from the league as the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, or the Pittsburgh Steelers. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But there is a reason the same teams consistently compete
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and have winning records. And obviously Tomlin
Speaker 1: the Steelers organization. You watch the night like there are
Speaker 1: certain players that were just born to play for certain teams,
Speaker 1: and to me, TJ. Watt just feels I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: he's a Pittsburgh Steeler, but like it's just a match
Speaker 1: made in heaven, like that guy was born to play
Speaker 1: for that brand. To play in front of those fans
Speaker 1: and to play on that unit for that organization, you know,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been the same fight he like PJ.
Speaker 1: Watt even the same level of players on like the
Speaker 1: Jags or the Dolphins. Right, it just it feels right.
Speaker 1: And he was an absolute dominant menace tonight. And when
Speaker 1: they have high Smith healthy as well, and you got
Speaker 1: to go into must passing situations, you are fucked like
Speaker 1: you're in major trouble, especially if you're a situation like
Speaker 1: the Giants where you got backup offensive linemen in and
Speaker 1: they ate them live. As the game went on, and
Speaker 1: the Giants honestly played probably one of their better games
Speaker 1: of the season. You saw Brian day ball early on, like, like,
Speaker 1: the Steelers just look like the Steelers do. That's how
Speaker 1: they play at ten am games, That's how they play
Speaker 1: Sunday night games, how they play Thursday night games. Like
Speaker 1: most of their games look in a similar vein Now,
Speaker 1: they were more explosive down the field than in recent
Speaker 1: memory because of Russell, but the vibe of their game
Speaker 1: is very similar. Right, they get this freak fumble, the
Speaker 1: Giants fall on it late in the game, It's like, God,
Speaker 1: the Giants score here, Well they got to get a
Speaker 1: two point conversion two because they did your classical analytical
Speaker 1: you're down fourteen, you go for two when you score,
Speaker 1: which I totally understand unless you're the fucking Giants. You
Speaker 1: have scored ten point total in two games. Let's just
Speaker 1: try to tie the game. You struggle to move the ball,
Speaker 1: let alone score the ball, and then the two point
Speaker 1: play they ran, as Troy Aikman said, was an embarrassment,
Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevens says. Stevenson says, thanks, guys, you might want
Speaker 1: to focus up because no one was paying attention on
Speaker 1: that play and Malik Neighbors got immediately tackled. You go
Speaker 1: for two when your offense is terrible. Like, all things
Speaker 1: are not equal. The Giants are no guarantee to ever
Speaker 1: gain a yard, especially against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's just
Speaker 1: go down a touchdown. Maybe something weird happens, we'll tie
Speaker 1: it up with a touchdown. But of course you go
Speaker 1: for two because the analytics, we're trying to win the game.
Speaker 1: Win the game, just see if we can tie the game. Like,
Speaker 1: let's just let's take baby steps. What do they say
Speaker 1: you gotta crawl then walk, then run, like, let's not
Speaker 1: try to sprint here before you can just take two
Speaker 1: steps moving forward. And you know, the Steelers six and two,
Speaker 1: very very impressive, and the Giants, like you could tell
Speaker 1: Brian Daboll wanted that. And this is why you always
Speaker 1: gotta be careful when you gamble on you know, Monday
Speaker 1: night games, especially as the season goes on, because you
Speaker 1: will get I think now I have to relook exactly
Speaker 1: what the rules are for the flexes, but you will
Speaker 1: have bad teams play really good teams and you'll go, ah,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a blowout, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it'll be the third quarter and it'll be a tie game.
Speaker 1: Because these coaches make a ton of money, these players
Speaker 1: have a lot of pride, like they're human beings. They
Speaker 1: understand playing in a solo game on primetime on Monday
Speaker 1: night is a big deal, and you get an extra
Speaker 1: day to prepare and you usually throw the kitchen sink,
Speaker 1: not just schematically, but effort wise. You play harder than
Speaker 1: you typically do. Sad to say, but it's kind of true.
Speaker 1: And it felt like early on in that the New
Speaker 1: York Giants like, ah, this is as harder you've seen
Speaker 1: him play all season long. Brian Dabell doesn't want to
Speaker 1: get regardless of what his record is, doesn't want to
Speaker 1: get embarrassed on Monday Night football by a team that's,
Speaker 1: you know, going to cruise to eleven or twelve wins.
Speaker 1: And I think this is the hard part about their
Speaker 1: situation because, like it's been well reported that they don't
Speaker 1: want to fire Brian Daball or Joe Shane. They would
Speaker 1: like this to work. I think Brian Daball deserves to
Speaker 1: get a little time because it kind of hit me
Speaker 1: tonight watching them play. I think Daniel Jones is by
Speaker 1: far the worst type athlete and definitely worst type quarterback.
Speaker 1: Think about this. He looks the part. He's like six ' five.
Speaker 1: He's a really good athlete. He's it's he's like six five,
Speaker 1: two twenty. He's a good athlete. He's a high character,
Speaker 1: smart guy, knows all the plays, tough at shit. Teammates
Speaker 1: like him, so he checks the coaches like him, checks
Speaker 1: all these boxes. Arm's good, not great, but listen, Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of guys have long careers without howitzers.
Speaker 1: But then he plays and you're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I've been watching football long enough to know this
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and we've been saying that now for years.
Speaker 1: But there's only one game a week. So then you
Speaker 1: go back to Tuesday and Wednesday, and he's the first
Speaker 1: guy in the building. He's studying the hardest, he knows
Speaker 1: the game plan. By Wednesday, he knows all the plays,
Speaker 1: he knows all the defensive looks, he's helping the other
Speaker 1: players out. Coaches love him. And then the game starts again.
Speaker 1: And if day Ball had hair like myself, he would
Speaker 1: pull it all out, but we don't, so we can't.
Speaker 1: So you just go, what the hell am I watching?
Speaker 1: And it feels like a consistent theme with guys like this.
Speaker 1: He's just talented enough to constantly tease you, and just
Speaker 1: I mean and bad enough to com Still he lose
Speaker 1: you games. Now, it's not all his fault, but it's
Speaker 1: hard to watch Daniel Jones play and go I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think this really works anywhere, even the Alex
Speaker 1: Smith komp. I don't think he could have played like
Speaker 1: Alex Smith the way Alex did with the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers and even early on with the Chiefs because he
Speaker 1: does a lot of things where you just what the
Speaker 1: hell was that. So if he ever was going to
Speaker 1: be a really good player with the skill set that
Speaker 1: he has, he would be a no mistake guy. He
Speaker 1: would never make a mistake, and he to me, he
Speaker 1: would be a lot more accurate than he is, and
Speaker 1: to me his accuracy is just very, very hit or miss.
Speaker 1: But I think the Giants clearly he won't be the
Speaker 1: quarterback next year. But back to the day ball thing, Okay,
Speaker 1: you keep him next year. I do think after that
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks came out, it's hard for anyone that falls football,
Speaker 1: specifically the Giants fans, to take their general manager seriously.
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to have worked in an NFL
Speaker 1: front office, you don't have to under have to like
Speaker 1: understand the true inner workings of free agency in the draft.
Speaker 1: If you were just a fan of football to watch
Speaker 1: that and go this, this doesn't feel right. And I'm
Speaker 1: not even specifically talking about the Saquon not signing him
Speaker 1: or signing him. I'm just talking about like, Daves, what
Speaker 1: are you thinking, Dave's who do you want? And as
Speaker 1: someone in the NFL told me, it's like if that
Speaker 1: was just for cameras. Why would you let that out
Speaker 1: because it makes you look so bad, not just to
Speaker 1: the fans, but your other peers in the league. So
Speaker 1: I think it is fair to say that we have
Speaker 1: to take the way that he approached that as face value.
Speaker 1: But here's the problem with firing a GM and keeping
Speaker 1: the coach that then you get this new GM to
Speaker 1: come in. He gives like him a year trial run,
Speaker 1: and then you're just all out of whack and watching
Speaker 1: the Yankee game tonight, obviously they're getting embarrassed right now.
Speaker 1: In the World Series, did you hear what I just said?
Speaker 1: In the World Series, and Brian Cashman takes a lot
Speaker 1: of shit. The Giants fans would sell their left leg
Speaker 1: to have the level of competence of Brian Cashman running
Speaker 1: their operation. Look at the New York Mets. They get
Speaker 1: rid of the owner, they hire or he sells the
Speaker 1: team to Steve Cohen, and they just feel like a
Speaker 1: real operation. The New York Knicks, who for the majority
Speaker 1: of my adult life have sucked. And then these last
Speaker 1: couple of years, they get Leon Rose, they get Tibbs,
Speaker 1: they have this vision, They get Jalen Brunson. Now we'll
Speaker 1: see if their moves this year payoff. Trading for Karl
Speaker 1: Anthony Towns. But hey, sometimes you take a big swing
Speaker 1: to take the next step. But we know they're gonna
Speaker 1: be good because it feels like they're really well run.
Speaker 1: And then you look at the two football teams that
Speaker 1: owners are completely different. One guy is just very what
Speaker 1: I think. I think John Marra, I think very presidential.
Speaker 1: I think very like country club, just old school. When
Speaker 1: I think Woody, I just think kind of rich kid,
Speaker 1: crazy ass nut job. But both guys wealthy, owned very
Speaker 1: valuable franchises and they're both in chambeles. They're both in chambeles.
Speaker 1: I would say Woody's version is worse when you factor
Speaker 1: in Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback and Daniel Jones at
Speaker 1: the Giants quarterback. But what they both have in common
Speaker 1: is in a league that is just you know, determined
Speaker 1: and judged on. You can tell me about your process
Speaker 1: all day long, and coaches love doing that. I say
Speaker 1: this all the time. The only reason people were obsessed
Speaker 1: with Nick Saban's process because he won seven national titles.
Speaker 1: Nick Saban had never won a national title. No one
Speaker 1: would give a shit about his process. It's results oriented
Speaker 1: business and the results for the two football teams. But
Speaker 1: I mean, the Giants aren't that much different football wise
Speaker 1: than the Jets. It just feels a little bit less,
Speaker 1: maybe disastrous, because they don't have this high water mark
Speaker 1: that everyone expected because they had Aaron Rodgers. The expectations
Speaker 1: were low because of Daniel Jones. But they're in shambles.
Speaker 1: And now you look at their division, like, obviously the
Speaker 1: Cowboys suck, they're still better than the Giants. Now the
Speaker 1: Commanders have real leadership, have a real coach, have a
Speaker 1: real gm have a quarterback. They're only gonna get better.
Speaker 1: And the Eagles, you know, kind of shook off some
Speaker 1: craziness early in the season. You know, let's face it,
Speaker 1: the Eagles have mainly been good for the last twenty years,
Speaker 1: so like they don't win the Super Bowl every year,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, they're winning double digit games.
Speaker 1: And the Giants have fired. You know, gone how many
Speaker 1: coaches post Tom Coughlin. They're on their fourth, who feels like,
Speaker 1: in a weird way, maybe maybe not as fighting for
Speaker 1: his job now in the year three, after all, three
Speaker 1: of the other guys only made it two years. So
Speaker 1: this is a franchise in a lot of turmoil, and
Speaker 1: we got a front row seat in that hard knocks.
Speaker 1: That was pretty embarrassing. Like I'll promise you this, I
Speaker 1: just don't think the Steelers, you know, would ever feel
Speaker 1: like that. It doesn't mean every organization's perfect. Every organization's
Speaker 1: perfectly buttoned up and knows what they're doing on every
Speaker 1: single move and gets everything right and there's not disagreement,
Speaker 1: But that was I've never experienced anything like that as
Speaker 1: just a fan of football, watching it on TV, having
Speaker 1: been in these meetings and seeing the way these guys talk,
Speaker 1: that's hard to shake. For the jam. So props to
Speaker 1: the Steelers, Props to Mike Tomlin. If you're a Steeler fan,
Speaker 1: you should be fired up teams not just in first place,
Speaker 1: but you guys have played good football. You play Steeler football.
Speaker 1: Run the fucking ball. Najee Harris looks awesome and he's
Speaker 1: someone who I falled since high school too, high school
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes away from me where I lived in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area, followed his career at Alabama, and obviously watched
Speaker 1: it close. This is the best football he's played so
Speaker 1: far in his NFL career. His physicalness his speed, he
Speaker 1: looks explosive. Obviously we know Jalen Warren kind of brings
Speaker 1: a little change of pace. How many yards they run
Speaker 1: for atnite almost one hundred and seventy yards nas he
Speaker 1: ran for one hundred and fourteen average six yards to carry.
Speaker 1: So if I'm a Steeler fan, I'm feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1: Headed to work tomorrow. Let's do a quick my penhouse
Speaker 1: in my outhouse. Listen, it doesn't get any better than
Speaker 1: the crib and the mansion that the Chiefs are living in,
Speaker 1: even when they don't play that well, even when they
Speaker 1: just don't even try that hard, and they cruise do
Speaker 1: an easy victory if it wasn't for a backdoor cover.
Speaker 1: That's twenty seven to thirteen easyw for Kansas City. And
Speaker 1: let's face it, you can nitpick all you want, like, oh,
Speaker 1: they've barely won this game. They shouldn't have won that game.
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna look up and they're gonna be fifteen
Speaker 1: and two. And they've added Hopkins who had three catches
Speaker 1: or maybe it was two catches for twenty nine yards,
Speaker 1: and they added Today from the New England Patriots. So
Speaker 1: you had an offensive guy, a defensive guy you already
Speaker 1: have a good team, Like I just have faith just
Speaker 1: in their whole operation. Now they are no lock to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, but the way everything's playing out
Speaker 1: right now, they're gonna get home field. So you can
Speaker 1: nitpick them all you want. Tell me who's betting against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs hosting playoff games? And when you're the number
Speaker 1: one seed, you're the only squad that gets to buy.
Speaker 1: So I've said it from the beginning. They are on scholarship,
Speaker 1: in the nicest penthouse, in the biggest mansion, are living
Speaker 1: like fucking kinks. You win a game fifty two to
Speaker 1: fourteen when your quarterback throws for less than one hundred yards.
Speaker 1: If you told me this there was a game in
Speaker 1: the NFL, because I would believe it in college, because
Speaker 1: a guy could run for like four hundred yards and
Speaker 1: score six or seven touchdowns. In the NFL, I would
Speaker 1: say it'd be borderline statistically impossible, because you'd probably need
Speaker 1: a huge rushing game and then multiple defensive scores to
Speaker 1: have a quarterback throw for under one hundred yards and
Speaker 1: win a game fifty two to fourteen or just score
Speaker 1: fifty two points. That that feels like a statistical anomaly.
Speaker 1: But it also feels a lot like the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: who when you lose Hutchinson, you never know, like how
Speaker 1: are you gonna shake off that emotional letdown? And listen,
Speaker 1: they still got to be sniffing around for trades. They
Speaker 1: still need to make a move. But you lose Jamison
Speaker 1: Williams to I wish we would just say what they
Speaker 1: got in trouble for, Like no one cares, like you did,
Speaker 1: a little steroids, a little cocaine, whatever it was. Can
Speaker 1: you just put what he got to spend it for?
Speaker 1: Was it because he was injured he was trying to rehab,
Speaker 1: Like I don't care. I don't think most people care.
Speaker 1: But we know you got spend it for pds, Like
Speaker 1: for what? But you lose them and then you're like,
Speaker 1: well they lose their speed element and you're looking up
Speaker 1: and Gibbs is going ninety yards on a run. It's
Speaker 1: like this, this is this is even fair? And the
Speaker 1: Titans will get to it a little bit. But props
Speaker 1: Alliance because last year they had one of the greatest
Speaker 1: seasons in the history of the franchise, and then to
Speaker 1: come back this season look like they've looked for most
Speaker 1: of the year I know they hit. That game against
Speaker 1: Tampa was weird, but for the most part, God, they've
Speaker 1: been impressive. I you know, I struggled. I could have
Speaker 1: just left it at that. I really could have, because listen,
Speaker 1: playing a divisional game with jamis like, it sucks to
Speaker 1: lose that game if you're the I don't think that
Speaker 1: differently of you. I think Cleveland's a very tough place
Speaker 1: to play. You do have a major, major flaw, like
Speaker 1: your past defense and your coverage for a team that
Speaker 1: had one of the best defenses statistically in recent memory
Speaker 1: last year, a complete defense, Like you have a problem,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no matter who you play, you are very,
Speaker 1: very susceptible. And it creeped its head in last you know,
Speaker 1: two days ago, and it's bigger reason you lost. Now
Speaker 1: I understand that Kyle Hamilton should have caught the ball. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: par even when your guys are given opportunities to make plays,
Speaker 1: they dropped the ball, hit them right in the bread basket.
Speaker 1: It was like, and it wasn't even some frozen rope.
Speaker 1: It was a little lollipop pass. But you lose to
Speaker 1: Cleveland with jamis like I gotta boot you out. I'm
Speaker 1: tempted to throw the Bills in there if we're just
Speaker 1: doing it on a weekly basis. Like I watched a
Speaker 1: lot of that Seattle game. It was raining, it was
Speaker 1: bad weather, and they beat the shit shit out of Seattle.
Speaker 1: They destroyed them. Keon Coleman's coming on the knock on
Speaker 1: him was like he can't get open. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like six ' three, throw him up, let him
Speaker 1: make contested catches. Use a Marii Cooper who didn't do
Speaker 1: anything in the game. But you know, I think the
Speaker 1: question with Amar is when you say it, Mari Cooper,
Speaker 1: I don't really think cold weather. I don't really think
Speaker 1: inclement weather. Tough conditions not really his thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like DeAndre Hopkins, his style of play should translate well
Speaker 1: Amri's you know, I don't know, uh, but you watch
Speaker 1: James Cook run the ball. We know Sean McDermot is
Speaker 1: one of the better defensive coaches. You get nervous in
Speaker 1: these big games with them. They've done stupid stuff. But
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in the Bills. So they're like poking
Speaker 1: their head in, you know, screaming at Dan Campbell and
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. They're the only team that's kind of on
Speaker 1: the fridge. It's hard with the Packers. They got some
Speaker 1: quarterback injuries. Minnesota. You're gone, Houston, like, I'm sorry, your
Speaker 1: record's good. I have a bet on you to get
Speaker 1: the number one seed with your injuries. You lose digs. Now,
Speaker 1: Nico's already gone. You get the Jets held. You might
Speaker 1: be seven and two, but you just haven't played that well.
Speaker 1: Uh so, Yeah, it's it's cheeks just kind of chilling,
Speaker 1: cruising down the road by themselves, like the fifty cent meme.
Speaker 1: You know when he looks and he smiles and drives
Speaker 1: off the outhouse. You know, in the summer, if you're
Speaker 1: at like a concert and you gotta go, like the
Speaker 1: only place to go to the bathroom is the porta pottis,
Speaker 1: and there's that line and it's like one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten degrees and if you you know, eat something bad
Speaker 1: and it's like I gotta, I gotta go, And you're
Speaker 1: getting that thing and probably seventy five people have used
Speaker 1: it over the last day and a half. It reeks.
Speaker 1: You can't breathe. There's this like shit humidity piss mix
Speaker 1: in the air and you can't breathe. But you have
Speaker 1: to go. That to me would be the Panthers. Like
Speaker 1: that is Panthers football. They are so bad. They even
Speaker 1: ask Sean Payton after the game. People can talk shit
Speaker 1: about Sean Payton all they want. You gotta appreciate Hell,
Speaker 1: He'll just say how he feels. They're like, hey, Sean,
Speaker 1: your defense is really rolling. He's like, yeah, their offense stinks.
Speaker 1: That wasn't exactly verbatim what he said, but he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: their offense isn't any good. I mean, the Panthers are
Speaker 1: an abomination. It just doesn't get any worse, canalis Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: I watched some highlights of that game today. H God,
Speaker 1: that's it's the porta potty in the peak of summer,
Speaker 1: and we all know when you open that door, that
Speaker 1: little latch and you're just you're just desperate for some air,
Speaker 1: some fresh air, and it that's the Panthers. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what to say about the Titans. I love Nashville.
Speaker 1: Getting married in Nashville Stadium's going to be sweet. They stink,
Speaker 1: I mean they stink. They actually aren't that far away
Speaker 1: from Porta Potti's status. I just like a couple more
Speaker 1: players on their team. But you lose a game fifty
Speaker 1: two to fourteen. It was thirty five to fourteen and
Speaker 1: a half. I feel I didn't watch the end of
Speaker 1: that game, but did Dan Campbell call off the Dogs?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty bad man. The Panthers and
Speaker 1: Titans are going nowhere fast, and I think we just
Speaker 1: got to add this team, the Patriots. They're out they
Speaker 1: win a game, right, Even the Giants, you just watch
Speaker 1: them play like they're not. I can't compare them to
Speaker 1: the Titans or the Panthers. But when you lose to
Speaker 1: the Patriots in a game where you don't have a
Speaker 1: timeout after the first quarter because you blew all three
Speaker 1: of them on delay of game situations. Someone reminded me
Speaker 1: of this situation today. I think they had a ten
Speaker 1: play drive when they score to take the lead against
Speaker 1: the Patriots with I forget exactly how much times on
Speaker 1: the clock. Was it two fifty or three minutes or something?
Speaker 1: So as you're driving, you know, hey, if we score,
Speaker 1: you have eyes. You took basic math and elementary like, well,
Speaker 1: we need a two point conversion, So have a two
Speaker 1: point conversion play called immediately when you score, or even
Speaker 1: in the huddle like Hey, Aaron, if we score here,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be our two point play. Get him
Speaker 1: up in the huddle. Instead, they score, and they've already
Speaker 1: they've already had a million delay of game situations throughout
Speaker 1: the game. They get a delay of game on the
Speaker 1: two point conversion, and then when they run the play,
Speaker 1: they barely make it past the five yard line. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers a shell of himself, There's just no way around it.
Speaker 1: And if he was gonna be a shell of himself
Speaker 1: and a bottom like wherever the middle line is of
Speaker 1: just the you know, like the sixteenth, fifteenth, seventeenth quarterback
Speaker 1: kind of that range, if he was on the wrong
Speaker 1: side of that, the Jets were absolutely screwed. And Colin's
Speaker 1: taken a lot of shit over the years for being
Speaker 1: critical of Aaron, just with his leadership and some stuff.
Speaker 1: It's kind of showing like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're the most important guy here at the moment, not
Speaker 1: the coaching, not Jeff Ulbrick who's never been a head coach,
Speaker 1: not Todd down Downing who's been fired by like five
Speaker 1: different teams. Like, Aaron, can can you just lead us
Speaker 1: to a couple of victories and he's incapable of doing
Speaker 1: that right now, he really is. He's incapable of doing it,
Speaker 1: and he's listen, I've defended him with like no one
Speaker 1: gives a shit in twenty twenty four about his vaccine
Speaker 1: status and most people didn't care at the time, beside
Speaker 1: the media. The darkness retreats and stuff like that. Stuff
Speaker 1: gets so overblown, but like this is a moment, like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: can you just kind of rally the fucking troops because
Speaker 1: like back to what I said about that, like the
Speaker 1: players didn't care, they didn't care at all, But this
Speaker 1: is a moment where they got a young team and
Speaker 1: everyone's kind of looking around. It's like when Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: like follow me, follow me to freedom. As Charlie Steiner
Speaker 1: once said, Peyton Manning when he went to Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: kind of just feels like Aaron just like, eh, let eron,
Speaker 1: I'm cool and the team is just it's a joke,
Speaker 1: it really is. Now they're not as bad as the
Speaker 1: Panthers or the Titans, but when you factor in how
Speaker 1: bad that losses, like you could put it on equal
Speaker 1: footing of getting beat fifty two to fourteen by the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, like losing to the New England Patriots in
Speaker 1: the fashion in which you lost to him. It's just
Speaker 1: borderline if you're a fan, like it feels like unforgivable,
Speaker 1: Like I can't even look at this team, and then
Speaker 1: they play Thursday night. I didn't even realize that till
Speaker 1: this morning. It's like, wait, it's Jets Texans. They lose
Speaker 1: the Texans. I mean, they might as well just buy
Speaker 1: that whole strip of Porta potties. That whole strip of
Speaker 1: Porta potties, like a Taylor Swift concert is probably the world.
Speaker 1: It have to be like a hard rock or like
Speaker 1: a country concert, not just little girls, because I would imagine,
Speaker 1: like Taylor Swift, the Porta potties probably smell a lot
Speaker 1: better than some of the concerts I've been to. But
Speaker 1: that would be the Jets, the whole strip, like the
Speaker 1: twenty straight Porta potties. Okay, let's hit on a couple
Speaker 1: other things around the NFL. One of the big stories
Speaker 1: of Monday morning. I missed this exact incident on day night.
Speaker 1: I saw it at the end after, you know, I
Speaker 1: recorded with Colin after the afternoon games, and again on
Speaker 1: the Sunday night games, and then I recorded our own
Speaker 1: podcast really late, so I didn't see the Tyreek Stevenson
Speaker 1: viral video, which I would say is the biggest viral
Speaker 1: video so far of the NFL season, and I do
Speaker 1: think it'll be pretty tough to top that moment for
Speaker 1: the young man. Obviously, it was really embarrassing and it's
Speaker 1: something that good teams can never tolerate. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: some moral high horse guy when it comes to sports,
Speaker 1: like I know what I'm involved in. I'm really not
Speaker 1: just in general in the business world like this. We
Speaker 1: live in a bottom line society and in football it's
Speaker 1: about winning and losing, and businesses about making fucking money. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those media guys. I don't even
Speaker 1: consider myself a media guy that likes to pound my
Speaker 1: chest and lecture people on stuff. And I'm not like
Speaker 1: it funny seeing everyone say they should cut the guy. Well, one,
Speaker 1: he's a starter and one of the better defense in
Speaker 1: the league and has been a starter from the moment
Speaker 1: he was drafted. He's part of the Carolina trade that
Speaker 1: landed the Panthers Bryce Young. He's been an excellent player
Speaker 1: for them. People make mistakes now, sometimes our mistakes are
Speaker 1: worse than others, and for a player that's about as
Speaker 1: bad as you get. That jumps the shark on just
Speaker 1: being an embarrassing moment, on being a moment where the
Speaker 1: coaches chew your ass out the following week that comes
Speaker 1: like the entire city thinks you lost them a football game, because,
Speaker 1: let's face it, he kind of did. He wasn't paying
Speaker 1: attention the ball snapped, he looks they're already running. His
Speaker 1: job is to actually ebra flu said it, to get
Speaker 1: the guy that caught the ball. Well, he's so discombobulated
Speaker 1: because the player's already started. He just kind of runs
Speaker 1: to the scrum and obviously he ends up tipping the
Speaker 1: ball to Noah Brown. So it was one of the
Speaker 1: bigger individual disaster plays you'll ever see from a defensive player.
Speaker 1: You could argue, given the scenario and the context of
Speaker 1: the game, the actual that it's a hail Mary, it's
Speaker 1: one of the worst NFL plays from an individual you
Speaker 1: will ever see. But like, you're not cutting this guy one.
Speaker 1: If you did cut him, which again they never would,
Speaker 1: he would be claimed by thirty one teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So the Carolina Panthers, I'm pretty sure they have the
Speaker 1: worst record. Uh maybe that I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: have the whoever has the you know it's tiebreaker. There
Speaker 1: are some obviously one win teams. Whoever is top of
Speaker 1: the waiver wire claim would claim him, he'd be gone.
Speaker 1: So you're not cutting the guy. But this is a
Speaker 1: teachable moment, and to me, this is a reflection of
Speaker 1: your locker room because that was a game where you
Speaker 1: were getting out played and if it wasn't for your defense,
Speaker 1: who was holding this team to field goals, you could
Speaker 1: have been down like twenty four to nothing because they
Speaker 1: were kicking your ass. But your defense is playing their
Speaker 1: balls off. Montes Sweat looks like Lawrence Taylor flying around
Speaker 1: chasing Jayden Daniels. I don't know. It feels like besides,
Speaker 1: like Kyler and Lamar one of the fastest guys in
Speaker 1: the league at quarterback, and they're doing everything humanly possible
Speaker 1: even though your offense isn't doing crap to keep you
Speaker 1: in the game. And then in the fourth quarter, you
Speaker 1: got Sweat busting off a fifty five sixty yard run.
Speaker 1: You got Caleb pulling plays out of his ass getting
Speaker 1: chased around. You got Keenan making plays. DJ Moore making
Speaker 1: plays obviously sweat making plays like those guys did everything
Speaker 1: to stay locked in even when times were the toughest
Speaker 1: to win. You a football game on the road, clearly
Speaker 1: against a good team, and we lose because of that moment.
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna cut him and like having a
Speaker 1: stern talking do in the office, I don't think that
Speaker 1: does anything. I think you got a draw a line
Speaker 1: in this end to your locker room. This will never
Speaker 1: be tolerated here because there are a lot of guys
Speaker 1: on this team. We're gonna be on the team for
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. And whether they make the playoffs or
Speaker 1: not this year, I don't think they're going to. But
Speaker 1: the game plan over the next several years will be
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs every year with the talent we
Speaker 1: have on this roster. And eber Flus, because he's literally
Speaker 1: coaching for his job, clearly he's gonna want this guy
Speaker 1: to play come Sunday. Why he's playing the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: who offensively can be a major major problem. Well, guess
Speaker 1: who's not going anywhere? The general manager And to me,
Speaker 1: this is an easy BP fastball for the GM to
Speaker 1: draw a line in the sand, make him in active
Speaker 1: for a game, and just show everyone else in that
Speaker 1: locker room, not only do I appreciate everything you did,
Speaker 1: what happened on Sunday in Washington will never ever be
Speaker 1: tolerated here Again, Tyree Stevenson, He's not going anywhere. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of this team. He's gonna obviously
Speaker 1: really learn from this moment. But like, to me, that's
Speaker 1: the move, and we'll see what they do. Ben him
Speaker 1: for a quarter, Like, it's not about that. It's about
Speaker 1: because like benching for a quarter, how does that change
Speaker 1: what just happened to me? It's about letting every young
Speaker 1: guy on the roster, starting with your quarterback, like, I
Speaker 1: want you to know that like the thing we're building
Speaker 1: here and what we stand for and what this organization
Speaker 1: represents in terms of winning culture. Would Belichick? Would Andy Reid?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that happening for Dan Campbell, Jim or
Speaker 1: John Harbot, Mike Tomlin what they would do in that
Speaker 1: moment with that instance of that individual player. So I
Speaker 1: think it's an easy one for the Chicago Bears to
Speaker 1: just to show their team that that's not okay, and
Speaker 1: we appreciate everyone that laid it on the line from
Speaker 1: start to finish in that game, because most of their
Speaker 1: guys did, they played winning or put themselves in a
Speaker 1: position to win the game in the fourth quarter of
Speaker 1: the Bears definitely played winning football offensively and defensively. Coaches
Speaker 1: screwed up with the full back tipe to the offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Speaking of locker room, I do think the Cults are
Speaker 1: in a very precarious situation. Obviously, their quarterback has gone
Speaker 1: viral throughout the season for I don't know, not being
Speaker 1: able to complete passes. And like we learned in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: when Joe Flacco is on your team, if your quarterback
Speaker 1: is not playing well, he's better than you, or he's
Speaker 1: better than that guy and should be starting. We saw
Speaker 1: in Cleveland major upgrade we saw in Indy he came in.
Speaker 1: Offense looks dramatically better. As we sit here on October
Speaker 1: twenty eighth, I think it's universally agreed upon that today
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is a better player than Anthony Richson. But
Speaker 1: this was another one of those situations yesterday. Because I
Speaker 1: don't have the volume on the game. If I don't
Speaker 1: pay attention for a play and something happens. You don't
Speaker 1: really know what happens unless you see on social media later,
Speaker 1: or obviously you just watch the highlight shows and you
Speaker 1: figure out like, wait, Anthony Richardson tapped out of the
Speaker 1: game for a play. Oh, he was injured or something
Speaker 1: tweaked his shoulder or his hipoca, No, he was winded.
Speaker 1: And I thought about it a lot today because I
Speaker 1: saw Pat McAfee asking Belichick about it, and I thought
Speaker 1: about the viral video that from the Netflix Quarterback series
Speaker 1: when the Chiefs are in the playoffs and Mahomes hurts
Speaker 1: his ankle and Andy Reid is telling him to go
Speaker 1: to the locker room with Rick Burkeholder the trainer and
Speaker 1: get an X ray, and Pat is dog cussing him,
Speaker 1: refusing to go. Matt Nagge comes over, talks to him,
Speaker 1: The trainer talks to him, and then finally Eric b
Speaker 1: Enemy comes talk to him and they all tell him
Speaker 1: you gotta go get an X ray, and he is
Speaker 1: just dropping f ward every other sentence, refusing to go.
Speaker 1: And when you watch Lamar, no quarterback I've ever seen
Speaker 1: runs around more and I have never thought for one
Speaker 1: second even when he's played bad, and I've been critical
Speaker 1: of him like in a playoff game that he ain't
Speaker 1: laying it on the line, and his competitive character is
Speaker 1: not elite. So you think of the best quarterbacks you're
Speaker 1: playing in the AFC, If you're the Colts, the best
Speaker 1: team with the best quarterback has ten out of ten
Speaker 1: competitive character. I would say Lamar Jackson's competitive character ten
Speaker 1: out of ten. Oh, that other team that's five and
Speaker 1: two and gonna be probably a thirteen to fourteen win team,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I would put Josh Allens at a
Speaker 1: ten out of ten. So the three, honestly three of
Speaker 1: the better quarterbacks I've seen in my lifetime when it
Speaker 1: just comes to physical skills, when it comes to accomplishments,
Speaker 1: when it comes to ability, and when it comes to competitiveness.
Speaker 1: You would have to drag those fucking guys off the
Speaker 1: field to have them miss a play in a big
Speaker 1: game against a division rival in the second half on
Speaker 1: third in goal. They wouldn't tap out of the game
Speaker 1: if there was a pot of gold outside the stadium.
Speaker 1: So to seeing Anthony Riginson tap out, I went, do
Speaker 1: we have to question his competitive character? Is it just
Speaker 1: simply while he's tired, he runs more than some guys,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, Lamar runs all the time, Kyler runs
Speaker 1: all the time. And I was talking with some scouts
Speaker 1: and one said, you know, Johnny's never really played. He
Speaker 1: was injured in high school, he was injured early in Florida,
Speaker 1: and his one season at Florida they went six and six,
Speaker 1: so half the games didn't even matter, and then he
Speaker 1: was injured. Last year he's been injured again. And I thought, well, okay,
Speaker 1: Because I do think through experiences you build up stuff,
Speaker 1: whether it's confidence, whether it's understanding of your sport, of
Speaker 1: your craft. I also think once you hit a certain age,
Speaker 1: they were like innate competitive traits that you either have
Speaker 1: or you don't. I think a lot of people listening
Speaker 1: to this, whatever business or industry you're in, whether you
Speaker 1: have them, the people you work for them, you have
Speaker 1: them when you're around people that are really really competitive financially. Obviously,
Speaker 1: in sports it's about winning and losing. It is something
Speaker 1: that you cannot mistake or fake. And some people are
Speaker 1: just a little I would say lacks when it comes
Speaker 1: to that. And I do think you have to question
Speaker 1: how the rest of the locker room because this gets
Speaker 1: to the Bears thing like, even if I really like
Speaker 1: Tyrek Stevenson, like, this is our job. We are paid
Speaker 1: to win these games, and if we don't, if we
Speaker 1: miss the playoffs, if a new coach comes in, the
Speaker 1: majority of guys on this roster are not Montese Sweat
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson and Caleb Williams or DJ Moore. Most guys
Speaker 1: are fighting for their fucking jobs on a yearly, weekly basis.
Speaker 1: In the NFL. Obviously, if you're a veteran player, once
Speaker 1: you make week one yr contract is guaranteed for the
Speaker 1: rest of the season, but definitely on a weekly or
Speaker 1: a yearly basis. It's like, we can't afford to lose guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm watching the Colts lose that game. His stats
Speaker 1: were horrendous. I saw someone breaking down, like some of
Speaker 1: those were drops. It's like, okay, Like, you don't just
Speaker 1: become forty four percent passer on the season because your
Speaker 1: wide receivers are dropping a lot of balls. He's an
Speaker 1: inaccurate passer, but it's like, Okay, we got a project.
Speaker 1: We drafted him fourth overall. I can live like this
Speaker 1: is what I went into business with. I cannot live
Speaker 1: with that competitive character question mark because now it's been
Speaker 1: one thing. Listen. We had durability concerns, we had accuracy concerns,
Speaker 1: and now the number one concern is, like I've seen
Speaker 1: so many former players that have said, in all my
Speaker 1: life of being around football, I have never seen this ever,
Speaker 1: Like it's been universally agreed upon. It never happens. It
Speaker 1: happens when you're hurt, and usually that guy's kind of
Speaker 1: limping off or laying on the ground. He tapped out
Speaker 1: like he's Alvin Kamar or Christian McCaffery or Derreck Henry
Speaker 1: after a fifty yard run. The quarterback and the five
Speaker 1: offensive lineman never come out of the game ever, if
Speaker 1: they are not injured. I think if you're a Colts fan,
Speaker 1: you've tried to rationalize the inaccuracies, the amount he's going
Speaker 1: to have to grow to be competitive at the highest level.
Speaker 1: But I think you were hoping, like, hey, everything, we
Speaker 1: hear high character people like him, But now we got
Speaker 1: competitive question marks. To me, those are non starters. You
Speaker 1: don't have a snowballs chance in hell to compete in
Speaker 1: that conference against the competitive level of guy that you
Speaker 1: have to play, who are already infinitely better players, and
Speaker 1: that you know, to get Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen or
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes out of a game, they would have to
Speaker 1: have a serious, serious injury. You almost have to chock
Speaker 1: it up to in the loss. And I saw a
Speaker 1: headline the day that Shane Steichen, I think, in a
Speaker 1: call to the media, said that they're still evaluating who's
Speaker 1: going to be their starting quarterback. I think the decision
Speaker 1: was made for you the moment he tapped his helmet.
Speaker 1: You have to start Joe Flacco. Now you got to
Speaker 1: whether this guy's out of shape, whatever the deal is,
Speaker 1: we got to do some soul searching here because that
Speaker 1: can never be okay. When Jonathan Taylor, I mean, they
Speaker 1: got random guys on defense that were playing their ass
Speaker 1: off in that game. That can't be accepted because if
Speaker 1: it is accepted, Listen, a lot of people in the
Speaker 1: NFL make fun of the Colts because they think Chris
Speaker 1: Ballard is well liked by a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the media, and he kind of gets a pass. I
Speaker 1: don't even know the guy, and I've been pretty optimistic
Speaker 1: when I talk about him. But if Joe Flacco's not
Speaker 1: their starting quarterback this year, like I'm sorry, their organization
Speaker 1: is a joke one. I mean, Flacco is just clearly
Speaker 1: a better player right now, but to that specific incident,
Speaker 1: I just don't see how his teammates can take him seriously. Last,
Speaker 1: but not least, I think the power of coaching, this
Speaker 1: is why these guys make so much money, is on
Speaker 1: full display really in college and the pros every Saturday
Speaker 1: and Sunday, but nothing more than this Sunday. Like all
Speaker 1: I heard coming into the regular season was the Jets.
Speaker 1: The Jets are the betting favorite to win the AFC East.
Speaker 1: And my whole thought was, even if you think Rogers
Speaker 1: is going to be Pete Rogers, look at their coaching
Speaker 1: staff that this is you have to have both. You
Speaker 1: can have Joe Montana or Tom Brady, but you typically
Speaker 1: also have to have Bill Belichick or Bill Walsh. Like
Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren was a lot better when he had Brett Pharr.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's been excellent. You giving Patrick Mahomes like it's
Speaker 1: a duo. The head coach in football means so much,
Speaker 1: and it's like everyone that acts like Sean McDermott and listen,
Speaker 1: He's had some devastating losses, but he has a pretty
Speaker 1: long resume now of being a winner and that organizational philosophy.
Speaker 1: And currently if you go to the standings on NFL
Speaker 1: dot com or ESPN dot com, they have a gigantic
Speaker 1: lead and it's not even Halloween. The Patriots coach clearly's
Speaker 1: in over his head, the Jets have no coach, and
Speaker 1: the Dolphins coach is the most overrated coach in recent memory.
Speaker 1: Like this division could be over by December first, it
Speaker 1: really could, and the Bills just have to keep playing
Speaker 1: for seating purposes. But like Sean McDermott and Joe Brady,
Speaker 1: because this was a team, it's like, oh, they lost
Speaker 1: these guys, they got rid of their safeties, they traded
Speaker 1: step On Diggs. Watched them play against Seattle on the
Speaker 1: road in the rain. How buttoned up that operation was.
Speaker 1: The Packers, to me, have just been a revelation this
Speaker 1: year because the reason most of us liked him so
Speaker 1: much coming into the season. It's like, did you see
Speaker 1: Jordan Love down in stretch last year? Look, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: if this defense is just a little bit better, Steam
Speaker 1: could win Super Bowl. And then he gets hurt opening night,
Speaker 1: he gets hurt again yesterday, and it's like he missed games.
Speaker 1: They had to start Malik Willis for two games. They
Speaker 1: had to bring Malik Willis yesterday into a game that
Speaker 1: was tightly contested. And I look today Malik Willis Ford
Speaker 1: Matt Lafoor and that offense is twenty nine of thirty
Speaker 1: nine for seventy five percent, throwing three touchdown and no picks.
Speaker 1: He's also averaging over eight yards of carry and he's
Speaker 1: ran in another touchdown. Like that's what coaching is. If
Speaker 1: you gave the Packers Ebra Flus and Shane Waldron, there's
Speaker 1: zero chance there six and two, I mean none. And
Speaker 1: if you flip flopped Lafleur and Halflee in and those
Speaker 1: guys with the Bears, I think it's safe to assume
Speaker 1: their defense would still be really good, but their offense
Speaker 1: would be dramatically better. I don't think the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: roster is that great. Obviously, the receiver is an incredible talent,
Speaker 1: and Aaron Jones is really good, but now they've lost
Speaker 1: their left tackle. You look at their defensive pieces, like,
Speaker 1: who's their best defensive player, a forty year old Harrison Smith.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you watch them get pressure, like who are
Speaker 1: these guys? You're like, Oh, they drafted this guy in
Speaker 1: the fourth round four years ago. This is not Zadarius
Speaker 1: Smith and Daneil Hunter on the squad anymore. But they
Speaker 1: got Kevin O'Connell and they got Brian Flores, and now
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna come back to earth a little
Speaker 1: bit more because the left tackle's gone. But I would
Speaker 1: still expect them to be a ten win team. I've
Speaker 1: said this forever about McVeigh. For them even being in
Speaker 1: position that if they got everyone back they would still
Speaker 1: be alive is an incredible accomplishment. To win that game
Speaker 1: early on in the season against the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: with no wide receivers is one of the crazier things
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Because the Niners blew two bad games,
Speaker 1: one to Arizona and one to the Rams. They are
Speaker 1: not equals. Ultimately, Stafford was thrown to me and you
Speaker 1: Kyler still had, you know, James Connor, Trade McBride, Marvin Harrison, Dortch,
Speaker 1: a kind of like like, they got guys that keep
Speaker 1: you on your toes. Is why they've had some big
Speaker 1: comeback victories the last couple of years. Since Kyler came back,
Speaker 1: I kept saying, listen, I whiffed on the Saints they
Speaker 1: might not win another game. Spencer Rattler is one of
Speaker 1: the worst players I've ever seen. Might not be all
Speaker 1: his fault. They're missing offensive lineman, they got wide receiver injuries,
Speaker 1: but he's got awful. But look at the Chargers schedule
Speaker 1: right now. They won last year. I think they went
Speaker 1: five to twelve. They obviously had the fifth overall pick.
Speaker 1: They were terrible. They lost a game on Thursday night
Speaker 1: like sixty to twenty, which is ironic because they ended
Speaker 1: up hiring that GM who got fired the next day
Speaker 1: that the Raiders literally got him fired. But this Charger
Speaker 1: team was an embarrassment to football. Do you know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen when the season ends this year? The Chargers
Speaker 1: are gonna be in the playoffs. I'm gonna read you
Speaker 1: their schedule. The Chargers this week at the Browns. I
Speaker 1: like the Chargers. The following week Titans, I like the Chargers.
Speaker 1: They get the Bengals at home. Tougher game, but definitely winnable.
Speaker 1: Ravens loss at the Falcons, loss at the Chiefs, loss, Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: million injuries, Chargers, Broncos, another team Cha their quarterback brought
Speaker 1: in their guy, have a bunch of guys on defense
Speaker 1: that most people don't know that well. Besides, her Tain
Speaker 1: probably gonna be a playoff team as well. There's a
Speaker 1: reason these guys are making fifteen eighteen million dollars because
Speaker 1: if you got Eberflus and I got Sean Payton or
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, I have an exponentially better chance to be
Speaker 1: playing in the middle of January than you do. We
Speaker 1: both could lose a bad game, we both could win
Speaker 1: a bad game during the regular season, but over the
Speaker 1: course of the year, it's advantaged me. And it's why
Speaker 1: I was always so critical on the Chargers, Like I
Speaker 1: like so many of your players. You went from Drew
Speaker 1: Brees to Philip Rivers to Justin Herbert. That's pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: The overwhelming majority of the NFL would have died for
Speaker 1: that twenty five year run. But when you refuse to
Speaker 1: pay coaches any money, you can't complain about underwhelming and
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs all the time. He said, you know what,
Speaker 1: screw it here, Jim Harbaugh. Here is five years, sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Oh, you want to bring Jesse Mentor,
Speaker 1: who's clearly one of the better defensive coordinators in the league.
Speaker 1: How much he gonna cost, Well, he's about three million bucks. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's three million bucks. How much your total staff gonna cost?
Speaker 1: Dramatically more money than you've ever paid anybody. That's what
Speaker 1: we gotta do. Because you're watching the Chargers, you're watching
Speaker 1: the Broncos. They're not exactly rolling out superstar players at
Speaker 1: all these positions. Yet they have good coaches, they have
Speaker 1: guys that know what they're doing, and they're both gonna
Speaker 1: end up. I would I feel pretty confident that there's
Speaker 1: probably like a seventy five percent chance both make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think there's one hundred percent chance one of them
Speaker 1: makes the playoffs. If I was a betting man, I
Speaker 1: just take Harbod Justin Herbert over bownex the volume mhm