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Speaker 1: to coast, George Norry with you. Mike Bearer back with

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Speaker 1: us New York Times bestselling author lecturer television personalities books

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Speaker 1: sold more than seventy thousand copies worldwide, and he began

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Speaker 1: his writing career after spending more than twenty five years

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Speaker 1: as an engineering designer consultant for major aerospace companies, where

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Speaker 1: he was one of them. Mike is a self described

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Speaker 1: now born again conspiracy theorist, and we are here to

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Speaker 1: talk about a lot of things. But Mike, welcome back,

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Speaker 1: and Merry Christmas to you, my friend. Hey, Merry Christmas

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Speaker 1: to you too, George, and thanks for having me back here.

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Speaker 1: What a fast year, isn't it. Yeah, there were just

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Speaker 1: a few things that happened this year, right, just alse

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Speaker 1: a few things. I got to get your reaction to

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Speaker 1: the story that broke over the weekend that former Senator

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Speaker 1: Harry Reid, when he was in the Senate, commissioned to

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Speaker 1: study to an investigate extraterrestrials. An amazing story. He was

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Speaker 1: pushed a course in backed by Robert Bigelow, the aerospace billionaire,

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Speaker 1: but they got apparently some pretty good information. What have

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Speaker 1: you heard about this story, Mike, And what do you

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Speaker 1: know that maybe it might not have been released yet?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, everybody in the audience is gonna hate me

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna throw quite a bit of cold water

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Speaker 1: on this whole. I mean, I definitely think it's something

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Speaker 1: interesting and it's it's important from from some sort of

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Speaker 1: at here? I don't feel like this is any um,

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Speaker 1: There were certain parts of that probably certain reports that

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Speaker 1: to me anyway, at least having read four or five

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Speaker 1: interesting story. Although I won't be honest that there's certainly

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Speaker 1: but you know, there's been there's been made from stories

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot of there's a lot of sakerey

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