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Speaker 1: now at patreon dot com. Slash Jenkins and Jones. I

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Speaker 1: have something I need to address that the chat's been

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Speaker 1: the discore. Everyone's been hit me up asking me to address.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna take a couple of minutes. This is my

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Speaker 1: yap of the week. Okay, and I apologize. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: take me a couple of minutes to get through it.

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Speaker 1: Are you who's aware of the Reese's situation of the

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Speaker 1: people around the podcast? I'm not him. I'm just hearing whispers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know the phone. You hear the rumblings.

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Speaker 1: I can feel it emanating off of mic right now.

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Speaker 1: You know I've prepared a statement?

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Speaker 2: Oh my wait wait, wait, hold on you I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: catch did you type or do you handwrite it?

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Speaker 1: It's handwritten like a good manifesto. Can I see it?

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Speaker 1: I want to see your handwriting. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: see my handwriting? Think? Hold on, okay, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: This is what I have. The handwriting, this is I

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Speaker 1: have like journalists. Journalists that makes sense. It doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like ship, like I have to write about things that

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Speaker 1: are happening while they're happening. So it's the handwriising. Yeah yeah, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So first I'll explain what's happening, because I know not

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Speaker 1: everyone understands it. The grandson of the man who invented Reese's.

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Speaker 1: His name is Brad Reese. Okay, he's a racist? No, okay, good,

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Speaker 1: good first guest, reasonable question, very reasonable, reasonable question.

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Speaker 2: But the grandson, it's usually would be more like the

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Speaker 2: grandfather might be the Yeah, yeah for sure, but go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Grandson's America, not in a confectionary, family in a confectionary,

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Speaker 1: very close to Confederate Okay. Brad Reese, the grandson of

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Speaker 1: a big Big Reece. Brad Reese, the grandson of Big Reece,

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Speaker 1: who I actually have been following on social media already

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Speaker 1: with the grandson of HB. Reese, who is the inventor

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Speaker 1: of Reese's Peanut butter and chocolate candy. What's Hb's actual name? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I look at that, do you think, Mike? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So he wrote a Brad Reeves wrote a letter to

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Speaker 1: Todd Scott, who is the corporate brand manager for the

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Speaker 1: Hershey Chocolate Company. Okay, and Hershey owns esus.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And in this letter, quickly, hb is Harry Burnett Reese.

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Speaker 1: What a fucking legend, what a name? Harry Burnett Reese?

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Speaker 1: All right, his Brad Reese's issue is that the Hershey's

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Speaker 1: Company has been substituting ingredients for their chocolate and for

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Speaker 1: their peanut butter. And you know, he says, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: quote a little bit from the letter here, Todd, You've

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Speaker 1: built a career on the belief that a good story

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Speaker 1: is at the heart of any conversation. I agree. But

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Speaker 1: a good story requires honesty, transparency, and respect for the audience,

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Speaker 1: in this case, Reese's consumers. Right now, the Reese's story

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Speaker 1: is diverging from what's inside Reese's products, and that divergence

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Speaker 1: puts Reesis and the legacy behind it at risk. As

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Speaker 1: the grandson of the man who created Reese's peanut butter cups,

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking for nostalgia. I'm asking for alignment, for

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Speaker 1: truth in Reese's brand stewardship, for a corporate narrative from

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Speaker 1: the Hershey Company that reflects the Reese's product consumers are

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Speaker 1: actually receiving His claim is that they've been putting in

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Speaker 1: and it's on their ingredients, like chocolate product instead of cocoa,

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Speaker 1: and like peanut butter taste instead of whatever his specific objection,

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Speaker 1: and I am going to taste good. I am going

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Speaker 1: to briefly defend the Hershey Company on this. The product

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Speaker 1: that set him off was the recent and I reviewed

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Speaker 1: it on Twitter, the recent mini Heart peanut butter cream

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Speaker 1: product that Reese's put out peanut butter cream. So not people.

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Speaker 1: This was intended to be a different from the regular

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Speaker 1: Reese's product. It was advertises peanut butter cream. It's a

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Speaker 1: million hard people. It's there are many hearts. Some people,

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Speaker 1: my wife prefer the creamy or peanut butter texture. I

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Speaker 1: am a Reese's traditionalist, but I did enjoy the cream

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Speaker 1: hearts as well. You enjoyed it, yes, But I reviewed

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Speaker 1: this on Twitter. You said yes. But he does have

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Speaker 1: a point, and he in an interview with the Associated Press,

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Speaker 1: he said, I absolutely believe in innovation, but my preference

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Speaker 1: is innovation with quality, which I think is a fucking bar.

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Speaker 1: And he also said he said of trying to eat

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Speaker 1: the cream product, he said it was not edible. You

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Speaker 1: have to understand. I used to eat a Reese's product

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Speaker 1: every day. This is very devastating for me. Brad Reese.

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Speaker 1: The Hershey's Company has essentially put out a non denial

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Speaker 1: denial where they said they have made quote product adjustments,

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Speaker 1: noting that Reese's peanut butter cups are made the same

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Speaker 1: way they always have been. That is believed to be

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Speaker 1: a statement about how they're stamped. As we've grown and

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Speaker 1: expanded the Reese's product line, we make product recipe adjustments

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Speaker 1: that allow us to make new shape, sizes, and innovations

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Speaker 1: that Reese's fans would come to love and ask for,

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Speaker 1: while always protecting the essence of what makes Reesei's unique

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Speaker 1: and special, the perfect combination of peanut, butter and chocolate.

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Speaker 1: But it is true that on the packaging it says

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Speaker 1: they're made from chocolate candy, not milk chocolate as it

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Speaker 1: used to be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the Reese's regular ones has milk, just s

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Speaker 2: has milk chocolate and peanut butter underneath the peanut on

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Speaker 2: the rout side of the logo. And this is chocolate

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Speaker 2: candy and peanut butter cream c r E me yes, which.

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Speaker 1: Is again it's the cream. That's a different product, but

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Speaker 1: it isn't advertised as such. It's barely advertised as such.

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Speaker 2: And I will say the picture of the they did

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Speaker 2: show the cross section, you know, the famous recess. You

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Speaker 2: can see the inside of the peanut peanut butter cup.

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Speaker 2: It looks exactly say. They're clearly trying I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: trying to mark that as exactly the same, just like

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Speaker 2: a mini version.

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Speaker 1: No question. Have you have you seen Brad Reese? Yes,

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Speaker 1: every photo that I looked at it on Google, he

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Speaker 1: has on Reese's paraphernalia. He's taking this to the fucking

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Speaker 1: die hard bro.

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Speaker 2: He's going all the way nobody's he looks like a

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Speaker 2: NASCAR driver.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'd want to lean into what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: I trust this guy with any opinion about Reese's a

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Speaker 2: period like this is like, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I agree, and yet this is what I This

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Speaker 1: is why I had to prepare a statement. Okay, that

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Speaker 1: was just a preamble. I'm joined by my friend Reese,

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Speaker 1: the bear representing the Reese's consumer. Okay,