Speaker 1: Hi, Hello, Hi. Who is this.
Speaker 2: My name is Gina.
Speaker 1: How are you Gina.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be talking to you right now.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be talking to you too, Gina. What's
Speaker 1: going on with you?
Speaker 2: I wanted to tell my story about how me and
Speaker 2: my husband got married and got together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, how did it happen?
Speaker 2: Well, so we had a mutual friend and I saw
Speaker 2: our mutual friend post him post my now husband on
Speaker 2: Instagram and I was like, oh, he's kind of cute. Whatever,
Speaker 2: I was dating somebody else whatever, And then.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a if, that's if that's
Speaker 1: a whatever. So you were dating somebody else at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was okay, continue, I save my questions for the end.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. And by the way, we lived in Hawaiian
Speaker 2: and Hawaii's very like if you live there, you live
Speaker 2: there forever. Basically, it's like a yeah. But I saw
Speaker 2: this guy that I had a mutual friend with just
Speaker 2: pop up and move to Germany, and I was like,
Speaker 2: how does one do that? I am super interested in
Speaker 2: how this person just moved to Germany because I wanted
Speaker 2: to travel, right, And yeah, I ended up dming him like,
Speaker 2: I want to do what you're doing. And then we
Speaker 2: just never stopped talking. And then so that was November
Speaker 2: twenty twenty that I first messaged him, and then by
Speaker 2: January twenty twenty one, we got married by proxy with
Speaker 2: a proxy marriage.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so the story so far. Your friend posts
Speaker 1: a picture of a of a German guy or a
Speaker 1: guy who moved to Germany.
Speaker 2: A guy who moved to Germany.
Speaker 1: Okay, an American guy.
Speaker 2: He's originally from Arizona, but he was in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: So you you just m this guy, this mutual friend
Speaker 1: of yours, and you were like, hey man, you moved
Speaker 1: to Germany. Looks cool. How'd you do that? And then
Speaker 1: you guys started talking. Yeah okay, and then you never
Speaker 1: stopped talking. And then wait, so two months later you
Speaker 1: got married by what is married by proxy? Mean?
Speaker 2: So basically two people stood in for us at our
Speaker 2: to find our marriage document.
Speaker 1: You had two people get married for you.
Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, you did.
Speaker 1: Like an avante.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like it says on our marriage certificate, the
Speaker 2: people that find it for and then our names instead
Speaker 2: of like our signatures.
Speaker 1: How do you find people to get married for you?
Speaker 1: Is that like a job or their professional brides and groomed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Montana. If anybody happened to be interested in this,
Speaker 2: it's a you can look up proxy marriage. I think
Speaker 2: it's called I can't remember the name. It's like big Sky,
Speaker 2: Blue Sky or something in Montana.
Speaker 1: Yea mm hm, and they do it all right, So
Speaker 1: proxy marriage. So you lived in you were living in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: he was living in Germany, and you got married. But wait,
Speaker 1: so did you get married before you guys even? Did
Speaker 1: you get married before you even met Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, before in person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you married a guy before you even met him
Speaker 1: in person?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, that must have been some picture your friend posted.
Speaker 2: I guess so he was like skateboarding. Wow, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I uh, I married him without meeting him. We were
Speaker 2: like just talking over FaceTime mostly, and yeah, I think
Speaker 2: we decided on getting married, like we were like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get married so that we can be together.
Speaker 2: We decided I think early December and by January, which
Speaker 2: is funny. January sixth, twenty twenty one is the day
Speaker 2: that we got married. Like it was official. We got
Speaker 2: sent like the congratulations everything and then yeah, and then
Speaker 2: I went to go visit my family they lived in
Speaker 2: a different state, and then in March I think March third,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, I was in Germany living with him.
Speaker 1: Now, how did your the person you were currently dating
Speaker 1: respond when you told him that you were going to
Speaker 1: get married to a man in Germany that you never met?
Speaker 2: I ended up? We ended up breaking up I think
Speaker 2: very early on when I first started talking to my
Speaker 2: my now husband. My now husband's name is Cody. By
Speaker 2: the way, shout out to Cody, he's.
Speaker 1: Watching Okay, So, uh yeah, how long were you? How
Speaker 1: long were you with How long were you with the
Speaker 1: person you were dating at the time.
Speaker 2: For I think almost two years a year and a
Speaker 2: half I think the two years somewhere in between that
Speaker 2: almost two years.
Speaker 1: So I mean, listen, like I want to get there's
Speaker 1: so much to get into here. What was it? I mean,
Speaker 1: you were dating this guy for what a year and
Speaker 1: a half? Two years? You had like a pretty established
Speaker 1: rapport with this guy you were dating. What what made
Speaker 1: you ditch him for the man?
Speaker 2: Well, so when COVID first hits, maybe yeah, and COVID
Speaker 2: first hit, my then boyfriend got fired from his job
Speaker 2: and I that same day he got fired, I got
Speaker 2: hired at a new job, so I was making a
Speaker 2: lot more money. So I was like, Okay, I can
Speaker 2: support you through your journey. I'm like trying to figure
Speaker 2: out what you want to do. And in that time,
Speaker 2: he kind of went down this like conspiracy theory, like
Speaker 2: like wormhole and became super like political. He became a
Speaker 2: Trump supporter and got really into it and was just
Speaker 2: always trying to fight me about like women's issues and
Speaker 2: like just the you know, the world. And I was
Speaker 2: trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, to
Speaker 2: be honest. I was trying to you know, maybe he's
Speaker 2: just in a phase. But he just increasingly got more
Speaker 2: and more crazy, not just like politically, but like in
Speaker 2: our relationship, and I was trying. But yeah, that one,
Speaker 2: the day that we broke up is because he thought
Speaker 2: that I was cheating on him with but not in
Speaker 2: the way that I was, but in the way that
Speaker 2: he thought I was going to someone's house but I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was at work.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you were so you were so you were
Speaker 1: like you were talking to another guy while you were
Speaker 1: talking to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, while I was still dating him, only for like
Speaker 2: a week or so. And then in that second week.
Speaker 2: I think we broke up now.
Speaker 1: This X did he ever like he never like hurt
Speaker 1: you or anything? Did he?
Speaker 2: No, No, he was just kind of something wasn't right
Speaker 2: up there, I think personally. And he's just a little crazy.
Speaker 1: And when you throughout the time that you knew him,
Speaker 1: like before he had lost his job and gone down
Speaker 1: this conspiracy rabbit hole, did he show any signs of
Speaker 1: anything that might have kind of like, no, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: given up given hints that he was a little a
Speaker 1: little crazy.
Speaker 2: No, he was. We were actually really good. We were
Speaker 2: really good. We worked the same job. I met him
Speaker 2: because he was my boss, and then uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: ended up getting a better job than him, and he
Speaker 2: really didn't like that. So that kind of started it,
Speaker 2: I think. But other than that, No, we were good
Speaker 2: and then that happened.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's no better way to piss off
Speaker 1: a Patriot than to uh break up with him in
Speaker 1: eloped Germany.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know we're happy now, like me and
Speaker 2: Cody are doing super good. I think we're planning on
Speaker 2: moving to La So yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so now you and Tody h your face timing
Speaker 1: with him and you got married by Okay, so you
Speaker 1: were in Hawaii, he was in Germany. And then where
Speaker 1: did the proxy marriage take place?
Speaker 2: That was in Montana?
Speaker 1: Why? Montana?
Speaker 2: That's just where the place was that that does it.
Speaker 1: That's the place with the most amount of people that
Speaker 1: you can convince that's the place where the unemployment rate
Speaker 1: is high enough that people can get jobs marrying each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just that peaceful.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say anything about the unemployment rate of Montana.
Speaker 1: It's probably I don't know. I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: the world. Okay, why did you marry this guy without
Speaker 1: meeting him? I feel like we haven't really dived into that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Honestly, at the time, we were just so similar
Speaker 2: and we were just getting along, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and we wanted to be together and like at least
Speaker 2: see each other, you know, But the best way for
Speaker 2: us to be seeing each other was for us to
Speaker 2: get married. Really because of COVID and everything.
Speaker 1: Well, how did you come to that conclusion?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how we were.
Speaker 1: C because you know, the best way for you guys
Speaker 1: to meet, because you know, look, you don't have to
Speaker 1: get married to visit Germany.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was COVID, like they weren't Oh so
Speaker 2: you did. Yeah, so, yeah, they weren't letting they weren't
Speaker 2: letting people in during COVID. I think they weren't letting
Speaker 2: us like please or letting people in. So we were like,
Speaker 2: you know what, let's just get married and just try
Speaker 2: it out and if it doesn't work, then, you know, divorce.
Speaker 1: Fascinating Okay, so so so so you couldn't go to
Speaker 1: Germany because of COVID, but if you married a German guy,
Speaker 1: then the rules said that you could. No.
Speaker 2: So he lives in the military, so he he got
Speaker 2: stationed in Germany, which is what happened. But because so
Speaker 2: if we're married, then then if then if we're married,
Speaker 2: then I can go be with my husband.
Speaker 1: Really okay, it was how long ago? How long have
Speaker 1: you guys been married for?
Speaker 2: Now? Two years?
Speaker 1: All right, so we beat out.
Speaker 2: We got married January six. Yeah, I mean the first
Speaker 2: year is the hardest.
Speaker 1: They say, so okay, and was that true? Was the
Speaker 1: first year hard?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We went through some stuff, but I think mostly
Speaker 2: we're a pretty healthy relationship. I mean, we we're good
Speaker 2: at communicating, which is like the key I think to marriage.
Speaker 2: Is communication, and you know, we like each other very much.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think the first year was
Speaker 2: the hardest, but I think we're doing pretty good now.
Speaker 1: When you first met him, did he like, did he
Speaker 1: live up to the expectations of that first juicy picture
Speaker 1: that your Rachel friend posted?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure. When I first hugged him, he was
Speaker 2: a lot skinnier than I thought he would be. But
Speaker 2: he's bulked up now he's pretty bluff now.
Speaker 1: So well that's good. Okay. So you live in Germany now?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well, right now I'm in Maryland because I'm
Speaker 2: visiting family and he's still in Germany. And then he's
Speaker 2: gonna leave Germany and we're gonna he's gonna meet my parents.
Speaker 2: He hasn't met my parents yet or anything, so he's
Speaker 2: gonna come here after he's done in Germany.
Speaker 1: How did your parents respond to this story? I'm curious
Speaker 1: what they thought.
Speaker 2: My mom was like okay, and then my dad was
Speaker 2: actually very excited. He was like, wooho, congratulations. I don't
Speaker 2: know that we all kind of all, me and my
Speaker 2: siblings all thought that it was kind of weird that
Speaker 2: he was like so happy for me, But you know whatever,
Speaker 2: My Dad's not the type.
Speaker 1: He's not that type. What do you what do you
Speaker 1: mean by that type?
Speaker 2: He's not like the type to be like wooo, that's
Speaker 2: what he said when I told him. I called him
Speaker 2: and I was like, Dad, I got married. He said it,
Speaker 2: He said, woo hoo.
Speaker 1: So four So you so you got married when you're
Speaker 1: about twenty two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to turn twenty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, how old.
Speaker 2: See he's twenty nine now he's about to be thirty.
Speaker 1: Uh, what do you tell me about this job? Do
Speaker 1: you do you still? It's just like a remote gig,
Speaker 1: Like how'd you keep this job while you were in Germany?
Speaker 2: No, I became a housewife for two years, which was
Speaker 2: good and bad. I think good like I got to
Speaker 2: rest because I was like working my asshole in Hawaii
Speaker 2: to trying to live. And then that in the sense
Speaker 2: like I I want to go back to work. So
Speaker 2: when we go to la and want to go back
Speaker 2: to work, I'm actually going to work while I'm here
Speaker 2: in Maryland. But you know, so you two years, God, so.
Speaker 1: You got because I remember you said you got a
Speaker 1: better job than your ex boyfriend. And that was kind
Speaker 1: of the catalyst to the end of your relationship and
Speaker 1: then you started. Yeah, and then you moved to Germany
Speaker 1: like two months later. So this better job that you had,
Speaker 1: you must have only had it for like a few months, right, No,
Speaker 1: so I got.
Speaker 2: The I was. I became a bank teller in February
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and that's when my ex got fired. We
Speaker 2: were working at a John bajoos He got fired out
Speaker 2: of John Bajooze and then he that's when he became
Speaker 2: He was unemployed until I think about November, so about
Speaker 2: the time that we broke up. That was supporting him
Speaker 2: the whole time. I almost made a year because I left.
Speaker 2: I left Hawaii in February, but I didn't quite make
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you were a housewife. So the deal.
Speaker 1: So the deal was, okay, let's get married, I'm going
Speaker 1: to move to Germany and you're going to financially support me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, But that wasn't the plan initially, I think
Speaker 2: for me especially, I was like planning on working that
Speaker 2: first year. I kind of took to like, you know,
Speaker 2: work by myself, I think a little bit more and travel,
Speaker 2: which was like the main thing. We wanted to be
Speaker 2: able to travel all around Europe and stuff. So I
Speaker 2: didn't want my job to get in the way of
Speaker 2: that when I didn't really need to work, I think.
Speaker 2: And then the second year, we were just trying to
Speaker 2: we were trying to start a family and stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, have kids.
Speaker 2: So it didn't work. Uh yeah, but it didn't. It
Speaker 2: didn't work out A little bit didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Okay, is that part of the future plan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of. So Cody has a daughter already, there's
Speaker 2: another crazy story. But so I'm happy being step mom
Speaker 2: if I don't end up being able to have like
Speaker 2: my own biological kids, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah? How old is the kid?
Speaker 2: She is three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And how is it being a step mom?
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't because we've been in Germany, I haven't
Speaker 2: mattered yet. So when we get to the States, we
Speaker 2: move officially to the States, then I get to really,
Speaker 2: you know, play into my role as stepmom. I'm super excited,
Speaker 2: super excited.
Speaker 1: So you you So you guys have been living in
Speaker 1: Germany the past two years, right, and where has the
Speaker 1: where has the daughter.
Speaker 2: Been with her mom? I think in on the East coast? Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, on the East coast. I don't think right.
Speaker 1: Now on the East coast. So if you guys moved
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, is the daughter gonna Are they going
Speaker 1: to trade custody? How's that going to work?
Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna figure it out. We're gonna figure it out.
Speaker 2: We're just so hard because of being because we were
Speaker 2: in Germany. It's been so hard to like really figure
Speaker 2: it all out. But this year, specifically this year, once
Speaker 2: we get out of Germany officially, I think everything's gonna
Speaker 2: come together. I'm not really too worried about it.
Speaker 1: Is being a mom something you've always wanted?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: M hm uh. So you you say that you were
Speaker 1: a housewife for two years? What I mean, how was
Speaker 1: that for you? Did you like did you like cooking?
Speaker 1: Did you like like what did you what did you
Speaker 1: kind of do?
Speaker 2: I did a lot of internal healing. I think it
Speaker 2: was super necessary for me. A lot of like inner
Speaker 2: child healing, a lot of meditation, journaling, therapy. I did
Speaker 2: go to school for a while and then yeah, but
Speaker 2: I'm not like the academic type. I was getting my associates,
Speaker 2: my like liberal arts associates degree. M but I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not that type.
Speaker 1: So how okay? So you were doing a lot of
Speaker 1: journaling and meditating and kind of hanging out and uh
Speaker 1: you and Cody was was supporting you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. About he's in the military right.
Speaker 1: A bunch of times? How does he like being in
Speaker 1: the army?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Wait, so before you're answered that, when you guys go
Speaker 1: back to l A, is he still in the military.
Speaker 2: No, he's getting out.
Speaker 1: What's he going to do now?
Speaker 2: He's just going to join the l A p D.
Speaker 2: I think. Okay, because they're hiring, they're going to hire him.
Speaker 1: Is that is that a thing to a lot of
Speaker 1: former former military become police officers? Well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because the the number of police officers
Speaker 2: needed has gotten up significantly, so I think they they
Speaker 2: want to recruit people who have prior experience I think
Speaker 2: in that kind of area. But really it's just because
Speaker 2: they're hiring him, I think, is why he's going for it?
Speaker 1: And what are you planning on doing when when when
Speaker 1: we go back to l A.
Speaker 2: Well, because I want to work. I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: hired at this Starbucks over here just for the time
Speaker 2: while I'm over here, and then I'm probably just gonna
Speaker 2: end up doing Starbucks in LA and then working from
Speaker 2: there to like find, you know, the career I want,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think there's more opportunity
Speaker 2: in LA to do that, to be able to find
Speaker 2: a career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to know what is
Speaker 1: your Do you have dreams for the future or things
Speaker 1: that you hope for?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, my my husband's listening, but he's listening to
Speaker 2: this probably, and I wasn't going to tell him, but
Speaker 2: I'm I think I'm interested in getting into coding and
Speaker 2: getting into web development. So I've been doing a lot
Speaker 2: of courses and stuff and I'm planning on going to
Speaker 2: a boot camp. I think once I kind of get
Speaker 2: the basics down and I think that's what I want
Speaker 2: to do. I've been trying it out for since I've
Speaker 2: been in the States, and I actually really like it.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to tell him. I wanted to surprise him.
Speaker 2: But I guess this is a good surprise for him.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that, a coding boot camp. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you guys know what? Do you guys know anybody in La?
Speaker 3: I think he has a.
Speaker 2: Friend in La. I mean me and then I have
Speaker 2: a friend that lives pretty close to La. But not
Speaker 2: in La. Her name is Damielle.
Speaker 1: Do you do you feel like you've got a good,
Speaker 1: uh like community around you? You know? M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, My my family's pretty supportive of anything I do.
Speaker 2: And then Cody's been my main support in anything. So
Speaker 2: I do rely on him a lot for like that
Speaker 2: kind of support. But my my family has been very
Speaker 2: My family loved Cody without even like meeting him. M. So, okay,
Speaker 2: they're pretty supportive.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're married for two years in Germany. We're
Speaker 1: going back to Los Angeles. Cody's gonna become a cop.
Speaker 1: You're gonna work Starbucks. We're gonna hang out with Danielle.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go take some coding classes. We're gonna journal,
Speaker 1: we're gonna meditate, We're gonna try to be a step
Speaker 1: mom of some kind. This sounds very personal, So if
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about it or answer, we
Speaker 1: can totally skip it and move on. But are are
Speaker 1: you kind of are are You're you're hoping to eventually
Speaker 1: have a child of your own?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure yet because so we we did have
Speaker 2: a child, but she she passed away. Oh I'm really so,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Well, it's Okay, I'm okay. That was
Speaker 2: in May in twenty twenty two, so pretty kind of recent.
Speaker 2: But it's okay. I'm not sure exactly, like where where
Speaker 2: I feel about trying again, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I go back and forth a lot. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're also thinking about adopting. I think we're gonna actually
Speaker 2: adopt for sure.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know you should have. You should have hit
Speaker 1: up the two the proxy marriage people and see if
Speaker 1: they'll fucking have a kid for you.
Speaker 2: You know what, probably there's kids everywhere that need to
Speaker 2: be adopted.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're thinking about adopting. I like that. That
Speaker 1: sounds that sounds nice. It sounds like being a mother
Speaker 1: is something you've you've really wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'd be a pretty good mother. I've
Speaker 2: been staying with my brother and his wife and then
Speaker 2: they have a one year old niece, and just like,
Speaker 2: being an auntie in itself is so fulfilling, and especially
Speaker 2: after loss too, I can see that I can appreciate
Speaker 2: being an auntie. I can I can appreciate the roles
Speaker 2: that I have as like wife, auntie, sister, you know,
Speaker 2: mom to a child that's not here anymore. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean that I can appreciate the those titles
Speaker 2: a lot more now, I think because I get to
Speaker 2: hang out with my niece.
Speaker 1: Also, a niece is good because you can hang out
Speaker 1: with them and then when you don't want to anymore,
Speaker 1: you send them away.
Speaker 2: I can just do it. I can say bye bye.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See if you do that with like your actual kid,
Speaker 1: apparently you're an asshole, right.
Speaker 2: I can't just like leave them in the room upstairs
Speaker 2: by themselves.
Speaker 1: So you can do that. You just can't leave them
Speaker 1: like on a dirt road or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to do that to make me
Speaker 2: see there, that's true.
Speaker 1: That's true. Well, listen, I think before we go, I
Speaker 1: just have one other Are you Are you happy? Are
Speaker 1: you feeling excited about life and about where where life
Speaker 1: has taken you so far and where it plans to
Speaker 1: take you in the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think especially after starting learning
Speaker 2: to code, has been really exciting because I'm I'm excited
Speaker 2: to see if I can actually get a career in it.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, just it's just a new it's a
Speaker 2: new year. That's how I'm feeling about it. It's it's
Speaker 2: a lot more optimistic than I've been for the last
Speaker 2: like six seven months.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, Gina, thanks for thanks for sharing your stories.
Speaker 1: This was this is fascinating, very fascinating, obviously non traditional.
Speaker 1: I think you know that. Yeah, but it's good that
Speaker 1: it that it worked out for you, because i mean, look,
Speaker 1: life is so fucking crazy complicated, and sometimes you make
Speaker 1: wild decisions to get married to a guy that you've
Speaker 1: you know, haven't even met. But then I mean, fuck,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes there's those decisions lead you to a
Speaker 1: place where you're feeling good about life. And that's yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Kind of why is why I'm married him? Too, was
Speaker 2: because like my whole thing was like why not? Why not?
Speaker 2: Like what's like the worst that could happen is you
Speaker 2: could be a murderer the many times before we met
Speaker 2: if he was a murderer, but he he's not. And
Speaker 2: but then also.
Speaker 1: You did you did, you did your research?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like why would he like pay first all
Speaker 2: this stuff like for me to be able to go
Speaker 2: be with him and everything if he was like a murderer,
Speaker 2: Like what kind of mo is that? But then also
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be a very good r O.
Speaker 2: I right, So I was like, why not, Like, let's
Speaker 2: take a chance on love.
Speaker 1: Well, Gina, thank you for sharing all this stuff. Is
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: If you're scared to do something, I think like, why not?
Speaker 2: Why not try? You know, and love, love your kids,
Speaker 2: love your family, and shout out to Cody. I love you, dude,
Speaker 2: and yet we love your We love your show. We
Speaker 2: listened to it on broad.
Speaker 1: Hell. Yeah, I'm honored to be I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: part of the family.
Speaker 2: You are. You definitely are.
Speaker 1: I'm like your pet gecko for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love you, We love you.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, Gina. You guys have a good name.
Speaker 2: Yep, you two buye.
Speaker 1: Fascinating. I feel like I've talked to a lot of
Speaker 1: callers like that who have like made these wild jumps,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I'm always back. Look because here's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be honest. When she told me that
Speaker 1: she married this guy in a different country that she
Speaker 1: had never met before after two months, yeah, of course
Speaker 1: I thought that was insane, of course. But here's the
Speaker 1: thing is, people have told me a lot of this stuff,
Speaker 1: especially with stuff with like relationships and whatnot. You know
Speaker 1: of wild decisions of life, free arrangements and whatnot that
Speaker 1: seem crazy, But I don't know. I think the bottom
Speaker 1: line is whether or not you're happy as a person
Speaker 1: being alive in the universe. Are you content? Are you
Speaker 1: not in constant fucking dread or unhappiness or whatever? Like
Speaker 1: I mean, these are These are bottom line things. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if I if I ask someone if
Speaker 1: they're feeling happy and good about their life and they
Speaker 1: say that they are, then I don't know how how
Speaker 1: crazy their decision really was. Right, A lot of life's
Speaker 1: complex that way. There are no I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: there's no bad decisions. There's plenty of bad decisions. There's
Speaker 1: lots and lots an infinite number of bad decisions, but
Speaker 1: they could all lead you to an infinite number of places.
Speaker 1: Very trippy. Thanks for calling, gen.
Speaker 5: Know, Hello, Hi there, Oh hey hey Lyle.
Speaker 2: How's it going? Man?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, how's it going?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: I'm alive for I'm gonna be dead for most of
Speaker 1: all of the time, and I'm in the tiny little
Speaker 1: window where I'm not dead, And that's awesome. I think
Speaker 1: that's so cool, Like I'm gonna be dead for millions.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be dead for infinity amount of time, and
Speaker 1: I was dead for the amount of time before that.
Speaker 1: And I'm like in the microscopic window where I get
Speaker 1: to breathe and eat nutter butter bites and drink water.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually really stoked about that. How are you doing.
Speaker 5: When you when you put things like that, I'm a
Speaker 5: lot better than I'm a lot better than normal, you know.
Speaker 5: But now that I'm thinking about him, I'm really happy
Speaker 5: to be here right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Well, is there anything else you wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about? Or did we kind of did we kind
Speaker 1: of do it?
Speaker 5: I think we did it. Man, It's been an honor
Speaker 5: talking to you, and I.
Speaker 1: Love you, Jake. It says here that you told your
Speaker 1: wife that she can have your skull when you die,
Speaker 1: and that she was thrown off by that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, basically, Uh, I don't know how do I start this.
Speaker 5: She has like a memorial shadow box for a dog
Speaker 5: she used to have that has, you know, like skeletal
Speaker 5: remains in it. And then I told her I want
Speaker 5: to do it with the dog we have now, like
Speaker 5: we want I want his skull, and uh, she wasn't
Speaker 5: jazzed up about that, which brought up the skeleton in
Speaker 5: my closet, which is that when I die, I wanted
Speaker 5: to give my skull to her. So there seems to
Speaker 5: be a disconnection in my understanding of her. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Love for the oddities, I guess.
Speaker 1: All right, I have several questions. Yes, Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: it says here that you're twenty six years old, and
Speaker 1: so is she. That's right, So I mean, when do
Speaker 1: you think you're going to die?
Speaker 5: I don't have any reason. I think it's going to
Speaker 5: be soon. Maybe when I'm like one hundred is the goal?
Speaker 1: You think around me, you're going Do you think that
Speaker 1: you and your wife are going to live to one
Speaker 1: hundred years old and be married?
Speaker 5: That's a good goal, Yes, for sure. I mean I hope, So.
Speaker 1: It's good to have hope.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, it's not
Speaker 5: that we're planning for dying soon or anything, but it
Speaker 5: just kind of came up. I don't know's I got
Speaker 5: like a weird I have a weird thing with like
Speaker 5: an affinity for skulls. So I just look at as
Speaker 5: like a very like personal deep gesture and it's kind
Speaker 5: of how I want to go, and she didn't like it,
Speaker 5: and I don't know. Part of me feels like I
Speaker 5: have a right to be put on my own mantle
Speaker 5: even after I'm gone.
Speaker 1: Never tell anyone that you will give them something when
Speaker 1: you die, because it makes them want to kill you
Speaker 1: so they can get it.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a ploy.
Speaker 1: Let me talk to your wife, sorry if she is Hello, Hi, Tiffany, Hi,
Speaker 1: what is the plan for what? Uh? Why were you
Speaker 1: thrown off that your husband offered to give you his skull? Well?
Speaker 3: I think having his skull after he dies is scary
Speaker 3: and creepy and I wouldn't be able to, you know,
Speaker 3: live waking up and seeing like his skull somewhere, and
Speaker 3: like knowing that his face used to be there, but
Speaker 3: it's not there anymore. It's just his skull.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's gnarly is you wake up and see his skull
Speaker 1: every day?
Speaker 3: I do, But it's you know, he has his eyes
Speaker 3: and his teeth and his mom and like all the
Speaker 3: card lists and everything there, and it's you know, it's different.
Speaker 1: Okay, So apparently you like so, I mean, look, the
Speaker 1: thing behind all of this is that you keep bags
Speaker 1: of dog bones, and so your husband was like, all right,
Speaker 1: this she's in. She's into dead bone stuff because she
Speaker 1: had she hangs out with dead dogs all the time,
Speaker 1: so maybe she'd want to hang out with dead me.
Speaker 1: So apparently, and apparently he felt as though that was
Speaker 1: within your character and that's throwing him off. What's your
Speaker 1: response to that?
Speaker 3: So, yes, I have there you know I had a
Speaker 3: dog before or yeah, so I have his romains. But
Speaker 3: there was this one time we were talking and and
Speaker 3: uh my husband said that he would take our dog
Speaker 3: now our chief head, and I said no. I was like, no,
Speaker 3: why wouldn't we do that? I wouldn't want to see
Speaker 3: Archie's head like mounted on our wall. So then he said, well,
Speaker 3: I want to give you my skull, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: same thing. Why would I want to have your skull
Speaker 3: mounted on my wall?
Speaker 4: That's it's freaky.
Speaker 3: I don't I can't do that.
Speaker 1: M M. So okay, so then how are you Why
Speaker 1: is it that you can't do that but you have
Speaker 1: you already have a dead dog thing.
Speaker 3: Well, because the the dog is cremated, I don't see
Speaker 3: like his skull.
Speaker 1: Ah no, wait, wait are you hold on? Jake? If
Speaker 1: what she's telling me is true, I don't know where
Speaker 1: the I don't know what the fuck you're talking about,
Speaker 1: because a cremated dog.
Speaker 5: No, it's not true, it's not true at all. She's
Speaker 5: now she's hiding the truth. She had like she has
Speaker 5: its teeth in there and it's for uh think she
Speaker 5: even had some tonail timing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, that's not the same.
Speaker 1: That's not the same at all. Jake, that's like saying
Speaker 1: the Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. That's like if you got
Speaker 1: your grandmother cremated and had like an urn with her ashes,
Speaker 1: and you thought the person that kept that was into oddities.
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on. First of all, you are an addies.
Speaker 1: Having an earn of your grandmother's ashes does not make
Speaker 1: you into.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the loud, here's the here's the thing. Do
Speaker 5: you like would you keep the dentures with it? I
Speaker 5: mean she her dogs, her dog's teeth are in there
Speaker 5: for trying out loud and the fur.
Speaker 1: Why are you looking inside of this thing?
Speaker 5: It's no, no, no, no, The cremation is in the box.
Speaker 3: So I have Yeah, I have two separate like components
Speaker 3: to memory, like memorialize my dog. One is the actual
Speaker 3: box that has his cremated cremated remains, and then the
Speaker 3: other box is a shadow box that has like pictures
Speaker 3: of him. It has a piece of his collar, and
Speaker 3: it does have two little jars. One one jar has
Speaker 3: spur in it and the other jar has a tooth
Speaker 3: of his no, no toenails.
Speaker 1: Okay, so how about instead of a skull, you take
Speaker 1: like some clippings of a T shirt and some of
Speaker 1: his pubes and put it in a little dixie cup
Speaker 1: and that can be the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. I could do that, some some hair
Speaker 3: and some beard hair shirt.
Speaker 2: But not his skull.
Speaker 1: Okay, have we found a good compromise, John, Jake?
Speaker 5: Uh? Yes, you know what? Yeah, I can. I can
Speaker 5: sell on that.
Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's good, maybe like a cut of his hair,
Speaker 3: but I think that I wouldn't not the pubes.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: So you guys think you're gonna be married for seventy
Speaker 1: four years? Oh? Yeah, okay, Well I I I hope
Speaker 1: so too.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What if, now, Tiffany, what if you die first? Does
Speaker 1: Jake get to keep your leg? What does he get?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, he can take my arm? If he wants to.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, now i'd be about that. I mounted over
Speaker 5: the over the fireplace.
Speaker 1: I'm like, genuinely, you know what, Now I see what
Speaker 1: you guys see in each other.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a it's a good partnership.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you guys want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: If it's cold outside, then don't leave the dogs outside.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that was some reverse psychology on
Speaker 1: your part because you're trying to go and collect more
Speaker 1: dog skulls.
Speaker 5: Don't, yeah, don't. We'll tell people thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, bye, guys, Bye, good bye. I don't let i've
Speaker 1: I've I realized I didn't let Tiffany say her thing.
Speaker 1: But it's okay. She'll be dead soon, so will I,
Speaker 1: so will hear, so will all the dogs in the universe.
Speaker 1: When I die, everyone listening to this can have I'm
Speaker 1: going to get cremated, and everyone listening to this can
Speaker 1: have one spec.
Speaker 4: Of ash Hello, Hello is this Lyle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is this?
Speaker 4: This is Elmo?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 4: Your your whole music about sending me into psychosis listening
Speaker 4: to that shit for an hour?
Speaker 1: Man? Okay, Well, whose decision was that.
Speaker 4: That was definitely your decision for going live. What I
Speaker 4: don't know? What's up man?
Speaker 1: Okay, nothing much. What what is it you wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about today?
Speaker 4: I wanted to tell you about how my father messaged
Speaker 4: me on Facebook like a month ago and told me, like,
Speaker 4: I don't know where because he doesn't talk to me
Speaker 4: because you know, he's on like drugs and shit. He
Speaker 4: just messages me and goes. I just want to let
Speaker 4: you know that you're the only child that I planned
Speaker 4: to con see that was on magic mushrooms, and I
Speaker 4: just wanted to discuss a little bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, how did that make you feel when he messaged
Speaker 1: to you that, Oh, it made.
Speaker 4: Me feel kind of powerful, to be honest, because not
Speaker 4: many people can say that, you know, they were like
Speaker 4: trip and balls and now their dad's wiener. You know,
Speaker 4: like that's pretty interesting. I think.
Speaker 1: So you feel as though this revelation from your father
Speaker 1: that you were conceived while on magic mushrooms has been
Speaker 1: this made you feel powerful?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I feel like it's definitely changed my outlook
Speaker 4: on life since I figured this out.
Speaker 1: Okay, how so.
Speaker 4: I feel like I could be like, well, to be honest,
Speaker 4: a lot of like crazy incidential stuff happens to me
Speaker 4: pretty often, and I used to be really curious why.
Speaker 4: I mean, I dibbled out in psychedelics myself. I don't
Speaker 4: really love mushrooms, to be honest, I hate magic mushrooms, okay,
Speaker 4: but I just felt like, I don't know, I just
Speaker 4: feel like it changed the way I look at life
Speaker 4: once I figured that out, because now it's like the
Speaker 4: world is my oyster. If I was conceived on magic mushrooms,
Speaker 4: what else can I do?
Speaker 1: Well? You didn't really do that.
Speaker 4: Well, I came out of his leaders, all right.
Speaker 1: I guess that you. That was sort of you. All right.
Speaker 1: So if you could have been conceived on magic mushrooms,
Speaker 1: what else could you do? I mean, what do you
Speaker 1: want to do? What do I want to do?
Speaker 4: To be honest, I don't know. I haven't figured that
Speaker 4: out yet. I haven't figured that out yet. Man, I'm
Speaker 4: just kind of raw dogging life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I tell you something?
Speaker 4: Go ahead?
Speaker 1: The fact that you if you don't know what you
Speaker 1: want to do, the fact that you can do anything
Speaker 1: is meaningless, you know. I I feel like, I mean, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if you yeah, of course you could do anything, but
Speaker 1: you only really can you could choose from a lot
Speaker 1: of different things. But you can only really do a
Speaker 1: finite amount of things with the amount of time you
Speaker 1: have on earth. But with that finite amount of time,
Speaker 1: you can do what you can do a lot, right, right,
Speaker 1: So I mean, alright, so hold on, you know, just
Speaker 1: get this one. Give me, Give us one thing, Give
Speaker 1: us one thing that you want to do.
Speaker 4: One thing I want to do. I want to see
Speaker 4: the world. I want to see the different cultures and
Speaker 4: how everyone lives their life in different countries.
Speaker 1: That is like, okay, it's a great goal, it's a
Speaker 1: great car. It's narrow it down. Give us the culture,
Speaker 1: give us the country, all right.
Speaker 4: I want to go to Egypt and see the pyramids
Speaker 4: and yeah, experience that. I feel like seeing what the
Speaker 4: Egyptians built, or the alien or whoever built those freaking
Speaker 4: huge pyramids. I want to see that shit in person,
Speaker 4: because in pictures I feel like it just doesn't do
Speaker 4: it justice. I need to be there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, so what's stopping you from going
Speaker 1: and seeing the pyramids?
Speaker 4: I think it's like two grands money, money, you know,
Speaker 4: that's that's the one thing that you can't just have,
Speaker 4: you know, That's what stops. A lot of opportunities and
Speaker 4: a lot of things are happening.
Speaker 1: Is money, It's true, It's true.
Speaker 4: Imagine if there was just an abundance of that, then
Speaker 4: everyone would be doing everything.
Speaker 1: Though, do you how do you make money? Right now?
Speaker 4: I'm at work right now. Actually, I work with this
Speaker 4: warehouse that makes aerospace parts.
Speaker 1: You you make fucking spaceship parts.
Speaker 4: Like like like parts for the government and stuff. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I don't really know what the fuck I do. I
Speaker 4: just I put tape on ship and the paint or pain
Speaker 4: and then we ship it out to the government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, how do you make good money doing that?
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to find a new job because they
Speaker 4: don't pay very well. But I mean I get to
Speaker 4: like sit and talk on the phone, so that's that's
Speaker 4: kind of nice. There's there's no twicers that come with
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you let's see here? You live in Florida?
Speaker 1: Where in Florida do you live?
Speaker 4: I live here?
Speaker 5: Tampa?
Speaker 4: Are you coming to Tampa?
Speaker 1: I thought I heard you say that I'm coming to Tampa.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to the Tampa improv I think, baby, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, hold on, all right, let's see a flight
Speaker 1: from Tampa to Cairo. You're looking up for me, I'm
Speaker 1: looking it up for you. It's it's a thousand bucks.
Speaker 1: And then whatever, your your Airbnb and your trying your
Speaker 1: food and the sea and the thing. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: two thousand bucks feels appropriate.
Speaker 4: Okay, I have a question for you then, because you've
Speaker 4: done a lot of traveling alone, how is that experience?
Speaker 4: Do you enjoy it? Or do you wish you had
Speaker 4: somebody who went with you?
Speaker 1: Oh? My god? Go alone? Have you never been alone before?
Speaker 1: It's to a place.
Speaker 4: No, I really haven't traveled much like generally in the US.
Speaker 4: Like I've only been like my home state in Florida,
Speaker 4: and like drove through a couple of states, but I
Speaker 4: haven't haven't really even seen I think. I think it's
Speaker 4: like just the fear of being somewhere alone that scares me.
Speaker 4: To be honest, that's probably what's stopping me. It's not
Speaker 4: even the money, because a thousand dollars, that's that's really
Speaker 4: nothing if you think about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you feel like you how long do you
Speaker 1: think it would take you to save up two thousand bucks?
Speaker 4: Probably a couple months, not too long, all right?
Speaker 1: And then you need, you'd probably want, like, you know,
Speaker 1: at least a week or or five days, however long
Speaker 1: you'd probably want it, Like, would you be able to
Speaker 1: find the time to do it?
Speaker 4: Ooh, the time?
Speaker 1: The time?
Speaker 4: I think I would need a lot of money. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think time is probably just as close to the
Speaker 4: money thing about then possibilities of life. Really, I think
Speaker 4: I would need enough money to be able to quit
Speaker 4: my job, go to Egypt, and then come back to
Speaker 4: a new job because I don't have any PTO left.
Speaker 4: But I feel like that right there would be a
Speaker 4: fresh start that I need.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fresh start that you need. Okay, so how
Speaker 1: long you've been working at this job for.
Speaker 4: Only like six months?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll fuck that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I blew through.
Speaker 4: I blew through all my PTO because I thought I
Speaker 4: was actually going to move to South Carolina, and then
Speaker 4: I got scammed after I packed my whole life up
Speaker 4: with my grandma and we moved up there, and the
Speaker 4: apartment we were supposed to move into was all fucked up,
Speaker 4: and so we had just moved back down to Florida
Speaker 4: and be homeless for a month. So I'm just not
Speaker 4: kind of getting my peep back on the ground. But
Speaker 4: I like soft soft ghost in my job because I
Speaker 4: wanted my Christmas bonus, so they didn't even know I quit.
Speaker 4: So I think, see that's another thing with the magic
Speaker 4: mushroom thing. I feel like I predicted my own destiny
Speaker 4: to not quit my job so I could come back
Speaker 4: and still have a job.
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to and uh I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't like. I feel like a dick every time I
Speaker 1: do this when I, you know, try to disregard spiritual things.
Speaker 1: But you you don't predict what you do with yourself.
Speaker 1: You do it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You can just make decision, elaborate. But you're saying that
Speaker 1: you predicted yourself quitting your job. That's a good point too.
Speaker 1: This is why I don't like say.
Speaker 4: My no, no, I wouldn't say all.
Speaker 1: Right, I want to help you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have different opinions.
Speaker 1: Let's talk for a couple more minutes, because I want
Speaker 1: to try to help you with this, all right, How
Speaker 1: do you get enough money in time to go to
Speaker 1: to go to Egypt? How much money do you have
Speaker 1: right now? Like, do you have savings?
Speaker 4: I have a little bit of savings, but you know,
Speaker 4: the whole move into South Carolina and then right back
Speaker 4: to Florida. Thing kind of blew through that. I mean,
Speaker 4: I have close to a grand saved up, but life's expensive,
Speaker 4: you know. I feel like i'd have to be like
Speaker 4: a second job to just like put money to the side.
Speaker 4: But with that, I need more time.
Speaker 1: Would you ever move to Egypt? Would you ever like
Speaker 1: move out of America?
Speaker 4: See, and I've also thought about that myself. I would
Speaker 4: love to move out of America, but I'm like a
Speaker 4: mass presenting lesbian, and so I feel like I would
Speaker 4: have to do like a lot of research on where
Speaker 4: I would be safe. And I don't know, like Egypt
Speaker 4: culture around, you know, homosexual probably you know, get myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, oh sure, sure, no, I've heard I
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say anything bad about
Speaker 1: Egypt because I don't really know. But like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they.
Speaker 4: Weren't cool with that, right right, which is all power
Speaker 4: to them. But I definitely would want to move to
Speaker 4: a progressive country. Fuck America, though, I definitely want to
Speaker 4: get out of here.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to think, I don't know. I listen,
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say. I think if you did research,
Speaker 1: you could find a place that you was cooler with
Speaker 1: you being a mass What did you what did you?
Speaker 1: How did you say a mass presenting lesbian? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: well there's Berlin, but that's it's also expensive. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like cheaper places that you could go to. I
Speaker 1: just can I just say this, Elmo, But just don't
Speaker 1: be afraid to do something crazy, you know, hmm?
Speaker 4: Yeah? How do you just do something crazy though, without
Speaker 4: like overthinking it to the point that it's not even
Speaker 4: crazy anymore?
Speaker 1: Though? What I'm trying to think of as sort of
Speaker 1: a crazy thing because you want to travel and go
Speaker 1: do things, but there are the physical limitations of time
Speaker 1: and money, and I don't know, I'm like, where could
Speaker 1: you go? Where? Like you could do one of those
Speaker 1: like volunteer programs where they like take your places and
Speaker 1: you do shit and they give you a bed and
Speaker 1: food and shit. I know those exist.
Speaker 4: Oh you know what I have been considering just joining
Speaker 4: the Peace Corps. I don't really know what the fuck
Speaker 4: that is, but I've heard people talk about the Peace
Speaker 4: Corps and it seems cool. Don't know what they do, but.
Speaker 1: I'm with it, you know, I just okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't be I guess my thing about the massive
Speaker 1: crazy thing is that you're twenty three, right, okay, and
Speaker 1: you don't have a kid. No, all right, So do
Speaker 1: you have like any Matt, do you like any massive
Speaker 1: debt like fucking student loans or anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have pretty bad student I'm about a forty
Speaker 4: grand in debt right now. I have like a pain
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. That's also another thing about just
Speaker 4: like dropping everything and going so much.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course I'm thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Is it student debt or how much is the car payment?
Speaker 4: I'm still about eighteen grand on my car and about
Speaker 4: twenty grand in student debt.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
Speaker 4: You don't how many times I've googled the words how
Speaker 4: to get rich fast? I'd say probably at least weekly.
Speaker 1: Uh what do you would you get your degree in? Oh?
Speaker 4: I never finished. I was I went to school for
Speaker 4: art and then I dropped out halfway through. So I
Speaker 4: was like, well, yeah, in order to make a career
Speaker 4: out of this, you got to be either a teacher
Speaker 4: or a therapist. Yeah, And I don't really know if
Speaker 4: I want to do either of those things. I think
Speaker 4: I'm just indecisive. I think that's my problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck it, I you know what, fun I hate.
Speaker 1: I hate college so much. I really hate it. I
Speaker 1: think it's like a weird predatory thing to like have
Speaker 1: people pay you years of salaries to fucking It's just
Speaker 1: it just sucks. I don't like it.
Speaker 4: I agree, And especially like after COVID and everyone kind
Speaker 4: of realized that you can learn all the same shit online.
Speaker 4: It's like, why are people still attending these massive universities
Speaker 4: when you can get the same shit on the internet,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna think on this for you, Elmo,
Speaker 1: I'm going to think on this. There's a plan here,
Speaker 1: There's there's something you're not I don't. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: die before you get to travel the world. It might
Speaker 1: be slow, it might be a long it might be
Speaker 1: a longer process than you'd like it to be, but
Speaker 1: there's well, we can get there. I think we can
Speaker 1: get there.
Speaker 4: I think so, too, Lile. I do. I think it
Speaker 4: requires more patience than I might.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have to be patient because you got
Speaker 1: all that debt and you gotta find a fucking thing
Speaker 1: you can pay it all off, but you'll get that
Speaker 1: you have enough time to burn because like you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you could spend the next three years
Speaker 1: trying to get out of that debt and put yourself
Speaker 1: in a position where you do have the money and
Speaker 1: the time and then go do all this ship when
Speaker 1: you're twenty six and then you're still you're still a
Speaker 1: young person travel in the universe, so it's there you
Speaker 1: might have to be.
Speaker 4: So when it comes to debt and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: like like who even cares about that? Because everyone dies
Speaker 4: with debt anyway, so I might as well just add
Speaker 4: onto the pile. I guess that's not really a healthy
Speaker 4: way to look at it, but I mean everyone dies
Speaker 4: with Dell and debt. Sure really isn't even that much comparison.
Speaker 1: You could have children, and that way when you die,
Speaker 1: there you they can pay your debt for you.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I feel like it's what needs to be done.
Speaker 4: I feel like that would be like my last wrong,
Speaker 4: just passing my debt onto the next.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Elmo, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go? Man?
Speaker 4: So that your podcast has gotten me through hours of
Speaker 4: just work and car rides, and I really appreciate everything
Speaker 4: you do. This this, this podcast is a really good
Speaker 4: platform for people to just speak their mind and I appreciate.
Speaker 1: Thanks man. Good luck to you. I hope you achieve
Speaker 1: your dreams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, you two stay gack out there.
Speaker 1: God bless you.
Speaker 2: Goes on the line thanking your phone calls every night,
Speaker 2: everything goes to unside, teaching
Speaker 5: You cloud in the of your life.