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Speaker 1: Hi, Hello, Hi. Who is this.

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Speaker 2: My name is Gina.

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Speaker 1: How are you Gina.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be talking to you right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be talking to you too, Gina. What's

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Speaker 1: going on with you?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to tell my story about how me and

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Speaker 2: my husband got married and got together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, how did it happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, so we had a mutual friend and I saw

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Speaker 2: our mutual friend post him post my now husband on

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Speaker 2: Instagram and I was like, oh, he's kind of cute. Whatever,

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Speaker 2: I was dating somebody else whatever, And then.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a if, that's if that's

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Speaker 1: a whatever. So you were dating somebody else at the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was okay, continue, I save my questions for the end.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay. And by the way, we lived in Hawaiian

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Speaker 2: and Hawaii's very like if you live there, you live

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Speaker 2: there forever. Basically, it's like a yeah. But I saw

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Speaker 2: this guy that I had a mutual friend with just

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Speaker 2: pop up and move to Germany, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: how does one do that? I am super interested in

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Speaker 2: how this person just moved to Germany because I wanted

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Speaker 2: to travel, right, And yeah, I ended up dming him like,

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Speaker 2: I want to do what you're doing. And then we

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Speaker 2: just never stopped talking. And then so that was November

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty that I first messaged him, and then by

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Speaker 2: January twenty twenty one, we got married by proxy with

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Speaker 2: a proxy marriage.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So so the story so far. Your friend posts

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Speaker 1: a picture of a of a German guy or a

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Speaker 1: guy who moved to Germany.

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Speaker 2: A guy who moved to Germany.

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Speaker 1: Okay, an American guy.

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Speaker 2: He's originally from Arizona, but he was in Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: So you you just m this guy, this mutual friend

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Speaker 1: of yours, and you were like, hey man, you moved

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Speaker 1: to Germany. Looks cool. How'd you do that? And then

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Speaker 1: you guys started talking. Yeah okay, and then you never

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Speaker 1: stopped talking. And then wait, so two months later you

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Speaker 1: got married by what is married by proxy? Mean?

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Speaker 2: So basically two people stood in for us at our

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Speaker 2: to find our marriage document.

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Speaker 1: You had two people get married for you.

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Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, you did.

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Speaker 1: Like an avante.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like it says on our marriage certificate, the

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Speaker 2: people that find it for and then our names instead

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Speaker 2: of like our signatures.

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Speaker 1: How do you find people to get married for you?

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Speaker 1: Is that like a job or their professional brides and groomed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in Montana. If anybody happened to be interested in this,

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Speaker 2: it's a you can look up proxy marriage. I think

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Speaker 2: it's called I can't remember the name. It's like big Sky,

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Speaker 2: Blue Sky or something in Montana.

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Speaker 1: Yea mm hm, and they do it all right, So

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Speaker 1: proxy marriage. So you lived in you were living in Hawaii,

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Speaker 1: he was living in Germany, and you got married. But wait,

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Speaker 1: so did you get married before you guys even? Did

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Speaker 1: you get married before you even met Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, before in person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you married a guy before you even met him

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Speaker 1: in person?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that must have been some picture your friend posted.

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Speaker 2: I guess so he was like skateboarding. Wow, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I uh, I married him without meeting him. We were

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Speaker 2: like just talking over FaceTime mostly, and yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: we decided on getting married, like we were like, okay,

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Speaker 2: We decided I think early December and by January, which

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Speaker 2: is funny. January sixth, twenty twenty one is the day

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Speaker 2: that we got married. Like it was official. We got

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Speaker 2: sent like the congratulations everything and then yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: I went to go visit my family they lived in

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Speaker 2: a different state, and then in March I think March third,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, I was in Germany living with him.

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Speaker 1: Now, how did your the person you were currently dating

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Speaker 1: respond when you told him that you were going to

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Speaker 1: get married to a man in Germany that you never met?

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Speaker 2: I ended up? We ended up breaking up I think

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Speaker 2: very early on when I first started talking to my

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Speaker 2: my now husband. My now husband's name is Cody. By

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Speaker 2: the way, shout out to Cody, he's.

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Speaker 1: Watching Okay, So, uh yeah, how long were you? How

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Speaker 2: For I think almost two years a year and a

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Speaker 1: So I mean, listen, like I want to get there's

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Speaker 1: so much to get into here. What was it? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you were dating this guy for what a year and

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Speaker 2: Well, so when COVID first hits, maybe yeah, and COVID

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Speaker 2: lot more money. So I was like, Okay, I can

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Speaker 2: support you through your journey. I'm like trying to figure

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Speaker 2: out what you want to do. And in that time,

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Speaker 2: he kind of went down this like conspiracy theory, like

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Speaker 2: like just the you know, the world. And I was

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Speaker 2: trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, to

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Speaker 2: be honest. I was trying to you know, maybe he's

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Speaker 2: just in a phase. But he just increasingly got more

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Speaker 2: the day that we broke up is because he thought

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Speaker 2: I was at work.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so you were so you were so you were

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Speaker 1: like you were talking to another guy while you were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, while I was still dating him, only for like

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Speaker 2: a week or so. And then in that second week.

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Speaker 2: I think we broke up now.

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Speaker 1: This X did he ever like he never like hurt

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Speaker 2: No, No, he was just kind of something wasn't right

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Speaker 1: And when you throughout the time that you knew him,

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Speaker 2: No, he was. We were actually really good. We were

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Speaker 2: really good. We worked the same job. I met him

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Speaker 2: really didn't like that. So that kind of started it,

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Speaker 2: I think. But other than that, No, we were good

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Speaker 2: and then that happened.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's no better way to piss off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know we're happy now, like me and

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Speaker 2: Cody are doing super good. I think we're planning on

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now you and Tody h your face timing

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Speaker 1: with him and you got married by Okay, so you

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Speaker 1: were in Hawaii, he was in Germany. And then where

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Speaker 1: did the proxy marriage take place?

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Speaker 2: That was in Montana?

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Speaker 1: Why? Montana?

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Speaker 2: That's just where the place was that that does it.

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Speaker 1: That's the place with the most amount of people that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just that peaceful.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say anything about the unemployment rate of Montana.

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Speaker 1: It's probably I don't know. I don't know anything about

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Honestly, at the time, we were just so similar

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Speaker 2: get married. Really because of COVID and everything.

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Speaker 1: Well, how did you come to that conclusion?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how we were.

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Speaker 1: C because you know, the best way for you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was COVID, like they weren't Oh so

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Speaker 2: it out and if it doesn't work, then, you know, divorce.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating Okay, so so so so you couldn't go to

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Speaker 2: So he lives in the military, so he he got

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Speaker 2: stationed in Germany, which is what happened. But because so

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Speaker 2: if we're married, then then if then if we're married,

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Speaker 1: Really okay, it was how long ago? How long have

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Speaker 2: Now? Two years?

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Speaker 1: All right, so we beat out.

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Speaker 2: We got married January six. Yeah, I mean the first

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Speaker 1: They say, so okay, and was that true? Was the

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We went through some stuff, but I think mostly

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Speaker 2: we're a pretty healthy relationship. I mean, we we're good

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Speaker 2: at communicating, which is like the key I think to marriage.

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Speaker 2: Is communication, and you know, we like each other very much.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think the first year was

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Speaker 1: When you first met him, did he like, did he

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Speaker 1: live up to the expectations of that first juicy picture

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Speaker 1: that your Rachel friend posted?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure. When I first hugged him, he was

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Speaker 2: a lot skinnier than I thought he would be. But

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Speaker 2: he's bulked up now he's pretty bluff now.

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Speaker 1: So well that's good. Okay. So you live in Germany now?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well, right now I'm in Maryland because I'm

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Speaker 2: visiting family and he's still in Germany. And then he's

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Speaker 2: gonna leave Germany and we're gonna he's gonna meet my parents.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't met my parents yet or anything, so he's

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Speaker 2: gonna come here after he's done in Germany.

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Speaker 1: How did your parents respond to this story? I'm curious

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Speaker 1: what they thought.

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Speaker 2: My mom was like okay, and then my dad was

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Speaker 2: actually very excited. He was like, wooho, congratulations. I don't

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Speaker 2: Well, because I want to work. I'm trying to get

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Speaker 1: you guys know what? Do you guys know anybody in La?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, My my family's pretty supportive of anything I do.

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Speaker 1: Also, a niece is good because you can hang out

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Speaker 2: I can just do it. I can say bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. See if you do that with like your actual kid,

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Speaker 1: So you can do that. You just can't leave them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to do that to make me

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Speaker 2: see there, that's true.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Well, listen, I think before we go, I

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, just it's just a new it's a

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, Gina, thanks for thanks for sharing your stories.

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Speaker 1: This was this is fascinating, very fascinating, obviously non traditional.

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Speaker 1: it that it worked out for you, because i mean, look,

443
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: life is so fucking crazy complicated, and sometimes you make

444
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: wild decisions to get married to a guy that you've

445
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, haven't even met. But then I mean, fuck,

446
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes there's those decisions lead you to a

447
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: place where you're feeling good about life. And that's yeah, that's.

448
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: Kind of why is why I'm married him? Too, was

449
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: because like my whole thing was like why not? Why not?

450
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Like what's like the worst that could happen is you

451
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: could be a murderer the many times before we met

452
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: if he was a murderer, but he he's not. And

453
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: but then also.

454
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: You did you did, you did your research?

455
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like why would he like pay first all

456
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: this stuff like for me to be able to go

457
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: be with him and everything if he was like a murderer,

458
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: Like what kind of mo is that? But then also

459
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: it's like.

460
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be a very good r O.

461
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: I right, So I was like, why not, Like, let's

462
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: take a chance on love.

463
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: Well, Gina, thank you for sharing all this stuff. Is

464
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to say to the people

465
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?

466
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: If you're scared to do something, I think like, why not?

467
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: Why not try? You know, and love, love your kids,

468
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: love your family, and shout out to Cody. I love you, dude,

469
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: and yet we love your We love your show. We

470
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: listened to it on broad.

471
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Hell. Yeah, I'm honored to be I feel like I'm

472
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: part of the family.

473
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: You are. You definitely are.

474
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm like your pet gecko for real.

475
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love you, We love you.

476
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, Gina. You guys have a good name.

477
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: Yep, you two buye.

478
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: Fascinating. I feel like I've talked to a lot of

479
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: callers like that who have like made these wild jumps,

480
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I'm always back. Look because here's

481
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna be honest. When she told me that

482
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: she married this guy in a different country that she

483
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: had never met before after two months, yeah, of course

484
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: I thought that was insane, of course. But here's the

485
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: thing is, people have told me a lot of this stuff,

486
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: especially with stuff with like relationships and whatnot. You know

487
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: of wild decisions of life, free arrangements and whatnot that

488
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: seem crazy, But I don't know. I think the bottom

489
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: line is whether or not you're happy as a person

490
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: being alive in the universe. Are you content? Are you

491
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: not in constant fucking dread or unhappiness or whatever? Like

492
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean, these are These are bottom line things. And

493
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if I if I ask someone if

494
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: they're feeling happy and good about their life and they

495
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: say that they are, then I don't know how how

496
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: crazy their decision really was. Right, A lot of life's

497
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: complex that way. There are no I'm not gonna say

498
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: there's no bad decisions. There's plenty of bad decisions. There's

499
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: lots and lots an infinite number of bad decisions, but

500
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: they could all lead you to an infinite number of places.

501
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Very trippy. Thanks for calling, gen.

502
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 5: Know, Hello, Hi there, Oh hey hey Lyle.

503
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: How's it going? Man?

504
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, how's it going?

505
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 5: Uh?

506
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm alive for I'm gonna be dead for most of

507
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: all of the time, and I'm in the tiny little

508
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: window where I'm not dead, And that's awesome. I think

509
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: that's so cool, Like I'm gonna be dead for millions.

510
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be dead for infinity amount of time, and

511
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: I was dead for the amount of time before that.

512
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like in the microscopic window where I get

513
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: to breathe and eat nutter butter bites and drink water.

514
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: So I'm actually really stoked about that. How are you doing.

515
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: When you when you put things like that, I'm a

516
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: lot better than I'm a lot better than normal, you know.

517
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 5: But now that I'm thinking about him, I'm really happy

518
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 5: to be here right now?

519
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Okay, great, Well, is there anything else you wanted to

520
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: talk about? Or did we kind of did we kind

521
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: of do it?

522
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 5: I think we did it. Man, It's been an honor

523
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: talking to you, and I.

524
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Love you, Jake. It says here that you told your

525
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: wife that she can have your skull when you die,

526
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and that she was thrown off by that.

527
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, basically, Uh, I don't know how do I start this.

528
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 5: She has like a memorial shadow box for a dog

529
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: she used to have that has, you know, like skeletal

530
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: remains in it. And then I told her I want

531
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 5: to do it with the dog we have now, like

532
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 5: we want I want his skull, and uh, she wasn't

533
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: jazzed up about that, which brought up the skeleton in

534
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: my closet, which is that when I die, I wanted

535
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 5: to give my skull to her. So there seems to

536
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 5: be a disconnection in my understanding of her. I don't know.

537
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 5: Love for the oddities, I guess.

538
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: All right, I have several questions. Yes, Well, first of all,

539
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: it says here that you're twenty six years old, and

540
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: so is she. That's right, So I mean, when do

541
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: you think you're going to die?

542
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: I don't have any reason. I think it's going to

543
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 5: be soon. Maybe when I'm like one hundred is the goal?

544
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: You think around me, you're going Do you think that

545
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you and your wife are going to live to one

546
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: hundred years old and be married?

547
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 5: That's a good goal, Yes, for sure. I mean I hope, So.

548
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: It's good to have hope.

549
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, it's not

550
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 5: that we're planning for dying soon or anything, but it

551
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: just kind of came up. I don't know's I got

552
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 5: like a weird I have a weird thing with like

553
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 5: an affinity for skulls. So I just look at as

554
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 5: like a very like personal deep gesture and it's kind

555
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 5: of how I want to go, and she didn't like it,

556
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 5: and I don't know. Part of me feels like I

557
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 5: have a right to be put on my own mantle

558
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 5: even after I'm gone.

559
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Never tell anyone that you will give them something when

560
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: you die, because it makes them want to kill you

561
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: so they can get it.

562
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a ploy.

563
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Let me talk to your wife, sorry if she is Hello, Hi, Tiffany, Hi,

564
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: what is the plan for what? Uh? Why were you

565
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: thrown off that your husband offered to give you his skull? Well?

566
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: I think having his skull after he dies is scary

567
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: and creepy and I wouldn't be able to, you know,

568
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: live waking up and seeing like his skull somewhere, and

569
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: like knowing that his face used to be there, but

570
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: it's not there anymore. It's just his skull.

571
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 5: You know.

572
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: It's gnarly is you wake up and see his skull

573
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: every day?

574
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: I do, But it's you know, he has his eyes

575
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: and his teeth and his mom and like all the

576
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 3: card lists and everything there, and it's you know, it's different.

577
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So apparently you like so, I mean, look, the

578
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: thing behind all of this is that you keep bags

579
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: of dog bones, and so your husband was like, all right,

580
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: this she's in. She's into dead bone stuff because she

581
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: had she hangs out with dead dogs all the time,

582
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: so maybe she'd want to hang out with dead me.

583
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: So apparently, and apparently he felt as though that was

584
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: within your character and that's throwing him off. What's your

585
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: response to that?

586
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: So, yes, I have there you know I had a

587
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: dog before or yeah, so I have his romains. But

588
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: there was this one time we were talking and and

589
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: uh my husband said that he would take our dog

590
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: now our chief head, and I said no. I was like, no,

591
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: why wouldn't we do that? I wouldn't want to see

592
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: Archie's head like mounted on our wall. So then he said, well,

593
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: I want to give you my skull, and I was like, well,

594
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: same thing. Why would I want to have your skull

595
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: mounted on my wall?

596
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 4: That's it's freaky.

597
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 3: I don't I can't do that.

598
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: M M. So okay, so then how are you Why

599
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: is it that you can't do that but you have

600
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: you already have a dead dog thing.

601
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: Well, because the the dog is cremated, I don't see

602
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: like his skull.

603
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: Ah no, wait, wait are you hold on? Jake? If

604
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: what she's telling me is true, I don't know where

605
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: the I don't know what the fuck you're talking about,

606
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: because a cremated dog.

607
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 5: No, it's not true, it's not true at all. She's

608
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: now she's hiding the truth. She had like she has

609
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: its teeth in there and it's for uh think she

610
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 5: even had some tonail timing.

611
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, that's not the same.

612
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: That's not the same at all. Jake, that's like saying

613
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: the Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. That's like if you got

614
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: your grandmother cremated and had like an urn with her ashes,

615
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: and you thought the person that kept that was into oddities.

616
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on. First of all, you are an addies.

617
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: Having an earn of your grandmother's ashes does not make

618
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: you into.

619
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the loud, here's the here's the thing. Do

620
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 5: you like would you keep the dentures with it? I

621
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: mean she her dogs, her dog's teeth are in there

622
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 5: for trying out loud and the fur.

623
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: Why are you looking inside of this thing?

624
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: It's no, no, no, no, The cremation is in the box.

625
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: So I have Yeah, I have two separate like components

626
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: to memory, like memorialize my dog. One is the actual

627
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: box that has his cremated cremated remains, and then the

628
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: other box is a shadow box that has like pictures

629
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: of him. It has a piece of his collar, and

630
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: it does have two little jars. One one jar has

631
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: spur in it and the other jar has a tooth

632
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: of his no, no toenails.

633
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so how about instead of a skull, you take

634
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: like some clippings of a T shirt and some of

635
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: his pubes and put it in a little dixie cup

636
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: and that can be the same thing.

637
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could. I could do that, some some hair

638
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: and some beard hair shirt.

639
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: But not his skull.

640
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: Okay, have we found a good compromise, John, Jake?

641
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: Uh? Yes, you know what? Yeah, I can. I can

642
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 5: sell on that.

643
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know.

644
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: Maybe that's good, maybe like a cut of his hair,

645
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: but I think that I wouldn't not the pubes.

646
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do that.

647
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: So you guys think you're gonna be married for seventy

648
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: four years? Oh? Yeah, okay, Well I I I hope

649
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: so too.

650
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 5: Thanks.

651
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

652
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: What if, now, Tiffany, what if you die first? Does

653
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Jake get to keep your leg? What does he get?

654
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, he can take my arm? If he wants to.

655
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, now i'd be about that. I mounted over

656
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 5: the over the fireplace.

657
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, genuinely, you know what, Now I see what

658
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: you guys see in each other.

659
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a it's a good partnership.

660
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you guys want to say to

661
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?

662
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: If it's cold outside, then don't leave the dogs outside.

663
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: And I feel like that was some reverse psychology on

664
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: your part because you're trying to go and collect more

665
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: dog skulls.

666
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 5: Don't, yeah, don't. We'll tell people thank you.

667
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Okay, bye, guys, Bye, good bye. I don't let i've

668
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: I've I realized I didn't let Tiffany say her thing.

669
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: But it's okay. She'll be dead soon, so will I,

670
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 1: so will hear, so will all the dogs in the universe.

671
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: When I die, everyone listening to this can have I'm

672
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: going to get cremated, and everyone listening to this can

673
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: have one spec.

674
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 4: Of ash Hello, Hello is this Lyle?

675
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is this?

676
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: This is Elmo?

677
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Yo?

678
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: Your your whole music about sending me into psychosis listening

679
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: to that shit for an hour?

680
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: Man? Okay, Well, whose decision was that.

681
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: That was definitely your decision for going live. What I

682
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: don't know? What's up man?

683
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, nothing much. What what is it you wanted to

684
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: talk about today?

685
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to tell you about how my father messaged

686
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: me on Facebook like a month ago and told me, like,

687
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 4: I don't know where because he doesn't talk to me

688
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: because you know, he's on like drugs and shit. He

689
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: just messages me and goes. I just want to let

690
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: you know that you're the only child that I planned

691
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 4: to con see that was on magic mushrooms, and I

692
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: just wanted to discuss a little bit.

693
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Okay, how did that make you feel when he messaged

694
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: to you that, Oh, it made.

695
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: Me feel kind of powerful, to be honest, because not

696
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: many people can say that, you know, they were like

697
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: trip and balls and now their dad's wiener. You know,

698
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: like that's pretty interesting. I think.

699
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: So you feel as though this revelation from your father

700
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: that you were conceived while on magic mushrooms has been

701
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: this made you feel powerful?

702
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I feel like it's definitely changed my outlook

703
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: on life since I figured this out.

704
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: Okay, how so.

705
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: I feel like I could be like, well, to be honest,

706
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: a lot of like crazy incidential stuff happens to me

707
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 4: pretty often, and I used to be really curious why.

708
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I dibbled out in psychedelics myself. I don't

709
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 4: really love mushrooms, to be honest, I hate magic mushrooms, okay,

710
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: but I just felt like, I don't know, I just

711
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 4: feel like it changed the way I look at life

712
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: once I figured that out, because now it's like the

713
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: world is my oyster. If I was conceived on magic mushrooms,

714
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: what else can I do?

715
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Well? You didn't really do that.

716
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: Well, I came out of his leaders, all right.

717
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: I guess that you. That was sort of you. All right.

718
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: So if you could have been conceived on magic mushrooms,

719
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: what else could you do? I mean, what do you

720
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: want to do? What do I want to do?

721
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: To be honest, I don't know. I haven't figured that

722
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 4: out yet. I haven't figured that out yet. Man, I'm

723
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: just kind of raw dogging life.

724
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I tell you something?

725
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: Go ahead?

726
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: The fact that you if you don't know what you

727
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: want to do, the fact that you can do anything

728
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: is meaningless, you know. I I feel like, I mean, yeah, well,

729
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: if you yeah, of course you could do anything, but

730
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: you only really can you could choose from a lot

731
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: of different things. But you can only really do a

732
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: finite amount of things with the amount of time you

733
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: have on earth. But with that finite amount of time,

734
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: you can do what you can do a lot, right, right,

735
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, alright, so hold on, you know, just

736
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: get this one. Give me, Give us one thing, Give

737
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: us one thing that you want to do.

738
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: One thing I want to do. I want to see

739
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: the world. I want to see the different cultures and

740
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: how everyone lives their life in different countries.

741
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: That is like, okay, it's a great goal, it's a

742
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: great car. It's narrow it down. Give us the culture,

743
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: give us the country, all right.

744
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 4: I want to go to Egypt and see the pyramids

745
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: and yeah, experience that. I feel like seeing what the

746
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 4: Egyptians built, or the alien or whoever built those freaking

747
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: huge pyramids. I want to see that shit in person,

748
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: because in pictures I feel like it just doesn't do

749
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 4: it justice. I need to be there.

750
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well, so what's stopping you from going

751
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: and seeing the pyramids?

752
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: I think it's like two grands money, money, you know,

753
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 4: that's that's the one thing that you can't just have,

754
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 4: you know, That's what stops. A lot of opportunities and

755
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: a lot of things are happening.

756
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: Is money, It's true, It's true.

757
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 4: Imagine if there was just an abundance of that, then

758
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: everyone would be doing everything.

759
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: Though, do you how do you make money? Right now?

760
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 4: I'm at work right now. Actually, I work with this

761
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 4: warehouse that makes aerospace parts.

762
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: You you make fucking spaceship parts.

763
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: Like like like parts for the government and stuff. Honestly,

764
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: I don't really know what the fuck I do. I

765
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: just I put tape on ship and the paint or pain

766
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: and then we ship it out to the government.

767
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, how do you make good money doing that?

768
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to find a new job because they

769
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: don't pay very well. But I mean I get to

770
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: like sit and talk on the phone, so that's that's

771
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: kind of nice. There's there's no twicers that come with

772
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: you know.

773
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you let's see here? You live in Florida?

774
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: Where in Florida do you live?

775
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: I live here?

776
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 5: Tampa?

777
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: Are you coming to Tampa?

778
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I thought I heard you say that I'm coming to Tampa.

779
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: I'm coming to the Tampa improv I think, baby, Um, yeah,

780
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: all right, hold on, all right, let's see a flight

781
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: from Tampa to Cairo. You're looking up for me, I'm

782
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: looking it up for you. It's it's a thousand bucks.

783
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: And then whatever, your your Airbnb and your trying your

784
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: food and the sea and the thing. Yeah, all right,

785
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: two thousand bucks feels appropriate.

786
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I have a question for you then, because you've

787
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 4: done a lot of traveling alone, how is that experience?

788
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: Do you enjoy it? Or do you wish you had

789
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: somebody who went with you?

790
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: Oh? My god? Go alone? Have you never been alone before?

791
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: It's to a place.

792
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: No, I really haven't traveled much like generally in the US.

793
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 4: Like I've only been like my home state in Florida,

794
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: and like drove through a couple of states, but I

795
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: haven't haven't really even seen I think. I think it's

796
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: like just the fear of being somewhere alone that scares me.

797
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: To be honest, that's probably what's stopping me. It's not

798
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 4: even the money, because a thousand dollars, that's that's really

799
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: nothing if you think about it.

800
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Okay, do you feel like you how long do you

801
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: think it would take you to save up two thousand bucks?

802
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 4: Probably a couple months, not too long, all right?

803
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: And then you need, you'd probably want, like, you know,

804
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: at least a week or or five days, however long

805
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: you'd probably want it, Like, would you be able to

806
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: find the time to do it?

807
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: Ooh, the time?

808
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: The time?

809
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: I think I would need a lot of money. Yeah,

810
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: I think time is probably just as close to the

811
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 4: money thing about then possibilities of life. Really, I think

812
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 4: I would need enough money to be able to quit

813
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: my job, go to Egypt, and then come back to

814
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 4: a new job because I don't have any PTO left.

815
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 4: But I feel like that right there would be a

816
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 4: fresh start that I need.

817
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fresh start that you need. Okay, so how

818
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: long you've been working at this job for.

819
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 4: Only like six months?

820
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: All right, we'll fuck that. Yeah.

821
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: I blew through.

822
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: I blew through all my PTO because I thought I

823
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: was actually going to move to South Carolina, and then

824
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 4: I got scammed after I packed my whole life up

825
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: with my grandma and we moved up there, and the

826
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 4: apartment we were supposed to move into was all fucked up,

827
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: and so we had just moved back down to Florida

828
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: and be homeless for a month. So I'm just not

829
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 4: kind of getting my peep back on the ground. But

830
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 4: I like soft soft ghost in my job because I

831
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: wanted my Christmas bonus, so they didn't even know I quit.

832
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: So I think, see that's another thing with the magic

833
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: mushroom thing. I feel like I predicted my own destiny

834
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 4: to not quit my job so I could come back

835
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: and still have a job.

836
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't ever want to and uh I don't. I

837
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: don't like. I feel like a dick every time I

838
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: do this when I, you know, try to disregard spiritual things.

839
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: But you you don't predict what you do with yourself.

840
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: You do it.

841
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

842
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: You can just make decision, elaborate. But you're saying that

843
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: you predicted yourself quitting your job. That's a good point too.

844
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: This is why I don't like say.

845
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: My no, no, I wouldn't say all.

846
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: Right, I want to help you.

847
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have different opinions.

848
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Let's talk for a couple more minutes, because I want

849
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: to try to help you with this, all right, How

850
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: do you get enough money in time to go to

851
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: to go to Egypt? How much money do you have

852
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: right now? Like, do you have savings?

853
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: I have a little bit of savings, but you know,

854
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: the whole move into South Carolina and then right back

855
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: to Florida. Thing kind of blew through that. I mean,

856
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: I have close to a grand saved up, but life's expensive,

857
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: you know. I feel like i'd have to be like

858
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 4: a second job to just like put money to the side.

859
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: But with that, I need more time.

860
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: Would you ever move to Egypt? Would you ever like

861
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: move out of America?

862
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 4: See, and I've also thought about that myself. I would

863
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: love to move out of America, but I'm like a

864
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 4: mass presenting lesbian, and so I feel like I would

865
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 4: have to do like a lot of research on where

866
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: I would be safe. And I don't know, like Egypt

867
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: culture around, you know, homosexual probably you know, get myself.

868
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure, oh sure, sure, no, I've heard I

869
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to say anything bad about

870
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Egypt because I don't really know. But like I wouldn't

871
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: be surprised if they.

872
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: Weren't cool with that, right right, which is all power

873
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: to them. But I definitely would want to move to

874
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: a progressive country. Fuck America, though, I definitely want to

875
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: get out of here.

876
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to think, I don't know. I listen,

877
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say. I think if you did research,

878
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: you could find a place that you was cooler with

879
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: you being a mass What did you what did you?

880
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Speaker 1: How did you say a mass presenting lesbian? Yeah, okay, yeah,

881
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Speaker 1: well there's Berlin, but that's it's also expensive. I'm trying

882
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Speaker 1: to like cheaper places that you could go to. I

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Speaker 1: just can I just say this, Elmo, But just don't

884
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Speaker 1: be afraid to do something crazy, you know, hmm?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? How do you just do something crazy though, without

886
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Speaker 4: like overthinking it to the point that it's not even

887
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Speaker 4: crazy anymore?

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Speaker 1: Though? What I'm trying to think of as sort of

889
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Speaker 1: a crazy thing because you want to travel and go

890
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Speaker 1: do things, but there are the physical limitations of time

891
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Speaker 1: and money, and I don't know, I'm like, where could

892
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: you go? Where? Like you could do one of those

893
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Speaker 1: like volunteer programs where they like take your places and

894
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: you do shit and they give you a bed and

895
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: food and shit. I know those exist.

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Speaker 4: Oh you know what I have been considering just joining

897
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Speaker 4: the Peace Corps. I don't really know what the fuck

898
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Speaker 4: that is, but I've heard people talk about the Peace

899
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Speaker 4: Corps and it seems cool. Don't know what they do, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm with it, you know, I just okay, yeah, I

901
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Speaker 1: just don't be I guess my thing about the massive

902
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Speaker 1: crazy thing is that you're twenty three, right, okay, and

903
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Speaker 1: you don't have a kid. No, all right, So do

904
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Speaker 1: you have like any Matt, do you like any massive

905
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Speaker 1: debt like fucking student loans or anything?

906
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I have pretty bad student I'm about a forty

907
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Speaker 4: grand in debt right now. I have like a pain

908
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Speaker 4: and stuff like that. That's also another thing about just

909
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 4: like dropping everything and going so much.

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Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course I'm thinking about that.

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00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: Is it student debt or how much is the car payment?

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Speaker 4: I'm still about eighteen grand on my car and about

913
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Speaker 4: twenty grand in student debt.

914
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 4: You don't how many times I've googled the words how

916
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Speaker 4: to get rich fast? I'd say probably at least weekly.

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Speaker 1: Uh what do you would you get your degree in? Oh?

918
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Speaker 4: I never finished. I was I went to school for

919
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 4: art and then I dropped out halfway through. So I

920
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 4: was like, well, yeah, in order to make a career

921
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Speaker 4: out of this, you got to be either a teacher

922
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Speaker 4: or a therapist. Yeah, And I don't really know if

923
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Speaker 4: I want to do either of those things. I think

924
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Speaker 4: I'm just indecisive. I think that's my problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck it, I you know what, fun I hate.

926
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Speaker 1: I hate college so much. I really hate it. I

927
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Speaker 1: think it's like a weird predatory thing to like have

928
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Speaker 1: people pay you years of salaries to fucking It's just

929
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Speaker 1: it just sucks. I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: I agree, And especially like after COVID and everyone kind

931
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 4: of realized that you can learn all the same shit online.

932
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Speaker 4: It's like, why are people still attending these massive universities

933
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 4: when you can get the same shit on the internet,

934
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna think on this for you, Elmo,

936
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Speaker 1: I'm going to think on this. There's a plan here,

937
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Speaker 1: There's there's something you're not I don't. You're not gonna

938
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Speaker 1: die before you get to travel the world. It might

939
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Speaker 1: be slow, it might be a long it might be

940
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Speaker 1: a longer process than you'd like it to be, but

941
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Speaker 1: there's well, we can get there. I think we can

942
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Speaker 1: get there.

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Speaker 4: I think so, too, Lile. I do. I think it

944
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Speaker 4: requires more patience than I might.

945
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have to be patient because you got

946
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Speaker 1: all that debt and you gotta find a fucking thing

947
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: you can pay it all off, but you'll get that

948
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Speaker 1: you have enough time to burn because like you know,

949
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, you could spend the next three years

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Speaker 1: trying to get out of that debt and put yourself

951
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Speaker 1: in a position where you do have the money and

952
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Speaker 1: the time and then go do all this ship when

953
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Speaker 1: you're twenty six and then you're still you're still a

954
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Speaker 1: young person travel in the universe, so it's there you

955
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Speaker 1: might have to be.

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Speaker 4: So when it comes to debt and stuff like that,

957
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Speaker 4: like like who even cares about that? Because everyone dies

958
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 4: with debt anyway, so I might as well just add

959
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Speaker 4: onto the pile. I guess that's not really a healthy

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Speaker 4: way to look at it, but I mean everyone dies

961
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Speaker 4: with Dell and debt. Sure really isn't even that much comparison.

962
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Speaker 1: You could have children, and that way when you die,

963
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Speaker 1: there you they can pay your debt for you.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I feel like it's what needs to be done.

965
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Speaker 4: I feel like that would be like my last wrong,

966
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Speaker 4: just passing my debt onto the next.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, Elmo, is there anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go? Man?

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Speaker 4: So that your podcast has gotten me through hours of

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Speaker 4: just work and car rides, and I really appreciate everything

971
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 4: you do. This this, this podcast is a really good

972
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Speaker 4: platform for people to just speak their mind and I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. Good luck to you. I hope you achieve

974
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Speaker 1: your dreams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, you two stay gack out there.

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Speaker 1: God bless you.

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Speaker 2: Goes on the line thanking your phone calls every night,

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Speaker 2: everything goes to unside, teaching

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Speaker 5: You cloud in the of your life.