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Speaker 1: I'm Dean Blandino. Another great show as always, Get ready
Speaker 1: to cringe my man Travis Hanson, what's up? Travisda? Aren't
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Speaker 1: on audio Joe Madrid, Joe, what's what's up? Everyone? How
Speaker 1: are y'all? Y'all, y'all? That's weird? All right? Um, A
Speaker 1: lot to get to. Let's go. Let's let's start with
Speaker 1: NFL and something that we haven't had in a little while,
Speaker 1: but it's it's nice to to always have a little
Speaker 1: coin toss controversy, right, let's why, why wait till the
Speaker 1: till the game actually starts and we're playing football, Let's
Speaker 1: get a little coin toss. And it was our biggest game, right,
Speaker 1: Fox's biggest game. This this this Sunday or this past
Speaker 1: Sunday with Dallas and the Rams ended up being kind
Speaker 1: of a a clunker of a game with Dallas just
Speaker 1: one side of affair blowing out the Rams. You are, So,
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Speaker 1: Have you totally? So yeah, Dallas rams coin toss and
Speaker 1: so what happened? And this it's interesting because once this happened,
Speaker 1: it literally I was trying to explain the coin to
Speaker 1: us rules, to Joe Travis, everybody else in the studio
Speaker 1: and and never people don't realize until there's an issue
Speaker 1: how it's not really complicated, but it felt complicated trying
Speaker 1: to explain it to you guys. So here's what happened.
Speaker 1: Cowboys win the toss. Dak is the cap DN. The
Speaker 1: referee goes to Doc Dax says, okay, we want to kick,
Speaker 1: and the refereesc Walt Anderson you want to kick, and
Speaker 1: he says, yeah, we want to kick. And then at
Speaker 1: some point he says, you know we're going to defer
Speaker 1: to the second half. We want to kick, and and
Speaker 1: Walt went with choice is we're gonna kick. And so
Speaker 1: what happened is, Okay, Dallas has chosen to kick, went
Speaker 1: to the Rams. The Rams are going to get the football.
Speaker 1: The Rams actually then get to decide which goal they
Speaker 1: want to defend, because they haven't chosen the football. It's
Speaker 1: been chosen for them, and the Rams are gonna get
Speaker 1: the choice to start the second half. So there was
Speaker 1: a lot of confusion. Obviously Dac was confused miscommunication. The
Speaker 1: bottom line is the Cowboys were trying to defer, and
Speaker 1: as a referee, you're you you really shouldn't let a
Speaker 1: player make a mistake like that. Whether you think it's miscommunication,
Speaker 1: do you think you always are going to ask because
Speaker 1: of the time, the team is that wins the toss
Speaker 1: is either going to defer or take the ball right
Speaker 1: that and that's that's most of the time. So if
Speaker 1: he says we're gonna kick, as a referee, you asked,
Speaker 1: do you want to defer or do you want the ball? Right?
Speaker 1: And then he says, okay, we're gonna defer, and then
Speaker 1: you go to the Rams. The Rams is now your choice.
Speaker 1: You want the ball? Yes, you go back to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: what goal do you want to defend? That's how it
Speaker 1: works nine out of times. So we started talking through
Speaker 1: it and I just want to explain the coin toss
Speaker 1: options because Joe, I thought you you said something that
Speaker 1: was really interesting. What did you think the rule was
Speaker 1: on the coin toss, because I don't think you're alone.
Speaker 1: I thought that whatever you pick the opposite is for
Speaker 1: the second half, so, which is kind of like what
Speaker 1: we played in the schoolyard and when we played football
Speaker 1: in the street or whatever it was. So Joe and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people agree or or have
Speaker 1: thought that that if Dallas wins the toss and they
Speaker 1: want the ball in the first half, then the Rams
Speaker 1: are automatically getting the ball in the second half. Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that. There are options. You win
Speaker 1: the coin toss, and your options are you can elect
Speaker 1: to either kick or receive, okay, and then your other
Speaker 1: option is you can elect a goal to defend. So
Speaker 1: the direction right, Those are your options on a coin toss,
Speaker 1: unless if you win and you defer to the second half.
Speaker 1: So if you defer to the second half, then it's
Speaker 1: like the team that actually lost the coin toss, they
Speaker 1: now get the choice for the first half and they
Speaker 1: can choose whatever they want, and the team that defers
Speaker 1: is deferring their choice. To the second half. So what again,
Speaker 1: What happens is I defer, Joe takes the ball. I
Speaker 1: then get to defend a goal and in the second half,
Speaker 1: since I deferred, I get the first choice of those
Speaker 1: same options. Okay, So that's how it works. And when
Speaker 1: did the defer come into play? Because I feel like
Speaker 1: I remember that in high school football, like we could
Speaker 1: prefer then. But NFL, yeah, college college had defer. High
Speaker 1: school had defer long before the NFL. The NFL only
Speaker 1: added the defer option in two thousand and eight, and
Speaker 1: it was really just it was to add another element,
Speaker 1: another layer of strategy, because you do get you know,
Speaker 1: there could be whether there could be you know, you like,
Speaker 1: you know teams there are teams that really liked that
Speaker 1: option of going in at the end of the half
Speaker 1: with the football score. We know we're gonna get it
Speaker 1: to start the second half, so windy cities and stuff,
Speaker 1: and you pick a goal to defend. And I used
Speaker 1: to love that back when I used to play Madden.
Speaker 1: I used to love to score and then I'm getting
Speaker 1: the ball. But you didn't know the defer rule that
Speaker 1: that was the big that that's a big thing. But
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, the defer went in um
Speaker 1: it was obviously there prior to in college. But so
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is and there was a lot,
Speaker 1: I mean, we we must have touched on it and
Speaker 1: showed the coin. I've never seen a pregame coin to
Speaker 1: us shown more. And I was seven times and Pereira
Speaker 1: went on and we're explaining it and they found they
Speaker 1: found the audio and it was and Doc did say
Speaker 1: he did in that sequence, he did use the word
Speaker 1: defer and as the referee again and look, it's it's
Speaker 1: easy to to to to kind of be the armchair
Speaker 1: quarterback after the fact, but you don't ever want to
Speaker 1: let that player make the mistake. In an indoor stadium,
Speaker 1: there's no reason for a team to elect to kick,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then I would say in when the
Speaker 1: last time a team decided to kick, because even if
Speaker 1: you're concerned about direction, then you elect the goal. That's
Speaker 1: your choice. You say we want to defend this goal,
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna take the football. But so what
Speaker 1: how did god resolved at halftime by the league office
Speaker 1: stepping in and correcting it, which is kind of it's
Speaker 1: a little by rule. Not so sure they used. They
Speaker 1: used a section the rule book and rule fifteen UM
Speaker 1: Section three, Article nine, I believe where you can get
Speaker 1: involved the administration of the game from a replay perspective,
Speaker 1: and they did it at halftime. UM, Look, the right
Speaker 1: thing ultimately happened. The Cowboys got the ball to start
Speaker 1: the second half because they were supposed to get the choice.
Speaker 1: But I think it's it's a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: can you really do that at halftime? I think you'd
Speaker 1: like to do that when it happens. You'd like to
Speaker 1: to correct it when it happens, and you certainly like
Speaker 1: the referee UM to be aware of that. And certainly
Speaker 1: if New York then is aware of what happened, then
Speaker 1: correct it, you know, before the game starts. But the
Speaker 1: coin toss, there's not a lot of time between the
Speaker 1: coin toss and the kickoff. So what by rule? When
Speaker 1: I ask you guys, you guys are gonna get a
Speaker 1: little rules quick since we're talking about coin tosses, UM,
Speaker 1: what is the maximum amount of time that the coin
Speaker 1: toss can take place prior to kickoff? The kickoff? The
Speaker 1: coin toss can take place no more than how many
Speaker 1: minutes prior to kick off twelve minutes, twelve minutes, Joe
Speaker 1: eight eight minutes. Okay, so Joe is closer, all right,
Speaker 1: But if I were, If I were, if this were
Speaker 1: the prices right and I were on the show, I
Speaker 1: would have went one. I would have went one minute,
Speaker 1: because I think you're both over. Okay, I think you which,
Speaker 1: by the way, prices that's fine. If you're on the
Speaker 1: prices right and you do that, that's fine. If you're
Speaker 1: on the prices right and somebody bids five hundred and
Speaker 1: you bid five oh one, you that no, no, you
Speaker 1: should fight that. I would fight that guy if prices right,
Speaker 1: If if I bid four seventy five and you bid
Speaker 1: four seventy six illegal, I would just look right at
Speaker 1: you and got four seventy six. Really, let's go get
Speaker 1: on the show. Really for seventy six believable yours line
Speaker 1: up and get on this show. And I would do
Speaker 1: it every round. Oh my god, just oh. I would
Speaker 1: be so annoyed. Three minutes, three minutes is the kick
Speaker 1: is the coin? Three minutes used to be thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: But again, those options, so you want to be as
Speaker 1: close to kickoff as possible, especially in outdoor stadium, because
Speaker 1: whether all of those things are a factor. Um, so
Speaker 1: we've talked about the kickoff longer than it would take
Speaker 1: to actually kick the ball off. This is really is
Speaker 1: the state of where the NFL efficially we're talking about. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a fifty, it's a really it's a
Speaker 1: coin toss. It's it's about as simple position, but it's
Speaker 1: more complicated. We we have had we have had other
Speaker 1: controversies with coin tosses. Right going back, Steelers Lions over time,
Speaker 1: Phil luck At, Jerome Bettis, Jerome Bettis said he called tails,
Speaker 1: it was the heads and and the Lions won the
Speaker 1: toss kicked the field goal to win the game. Jerome
Speaker 1: Bettis said that he called tails. Feel like it said
Speaker 1: he called heads and the audio was enhanced. And I
Speaker 1: think the ultimate finding was that Jerome Bettis tried to
Speaker 1: change his his decision mid toss and it was headtails.
Speaker 1: It kept change. They changed the procedure after that because
Speaker 1: you used to call it in the air. Then it
Speaker 1: was you had to look the guy in the face
Speaker 1: and go, what's your what's your choice? You know, what's
Speaker 1: your heads or tails before you actually flipped it. Because
Speaker 1: it was too much to do the flip and do
Speaker 1: it in air. So that was in in In in
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. It was a Packers Cardinals playoff game,
Speaker 1: going overtime clip. Blakeman tosses the coin and it doesn't
Speaker 1: turn over. It doesn't turn over and it hits the ground.
Speaker 1: Rogers green Bays the visiting team. They think they win
Speaker 1: the toss and Cleet says, no, it didn't flip. Now
Speaker 1: there was no rule to back him up, but he
Speaker 1: used good common sense and he said we're gonna do
Speaker 1: it over, and he didn't let Rogers change his original choice.
Speaker 1: And then they end up losing the toss and uh,
Speaker 1: and they think that, yeah, they end up losing the game.
Speaker 1: But so we put in a rule after that to
Speaker 1: say the coin must actually flip, and if the coin
Speaker 1: doesn't flip or or the toss is compromised in any way,
Speaker 1: then it's to do over and the captain cannot change
Speaker 1: his original toss if it only one time? Is that okay?
Speaker 1: One time? Can you know what happened? You know what
Speaker 1: Kleek did in that? So the coin, it was a
Speaker 1: playoff game and it was a commemorative coin. Normally regular
Speaker 1: season they all have referees will have a coin that
Speaker 1: they use. Some a lot of them like to use
Speaker 1: a silver dollar whatever, because it's got a little more
Speaker 1: weight and a little more hef to it, you know,
Speaker 1: than a quarter. I mean, anybody, like any any referee
Speaker 1: that he uses like a penny or dime, Like I
Speaker 1: W I would want to be that guy that the dime.
Speaker 1: Here you go. If this is heads, is his tails.
Speaker 1: But so he didn't take the coin out of the casing,
Speaker 1: the plastic case, and so when he he didn't get
Speaker 1: the right arrow dynamics, and when he threw it up
Speaker 1: in the air, it didn't turn over. So that's that's
Speaker 1: questionable techniquesson to all you aspiring referees, take the coin
Speaker 1: out of the plastic case. Super Bowl forty eight Joe
Speaker 1: Namath referee Terry McAuley gave the coin to Joe Namath.
Speaker 1: He was going to toss the coin, but he didn't ask.
Speaker 1: McCauley didn't ask Seattle the visiting team what they wanted
Speaker 1: to choose before he gave the coin to Joe. So Broadway,
Speaker 1: Joe's wearing a fur coat, looked like a mink coat.
Speaker 1: He flips it. McCauley catches it realizes that they didn't
Speaker 1: ask Seattle what they wanted and and obviously Seattle Seattle
Speaker 1: I believe lost that to that toss. The Broncos got
Speaker 1: the ball, and if you remember that game, that first drive,
Speaker 1: it was like the second play did not go very
Speaker 1: well for for Denver, snap over Peyton's head into the
Speaker 1: end of and the route was on. So that was
Speaker 1: in your city. I was in New York. It was
Speaker 1: unbelievable weather until the morning after the game and they
Speaker 1: had a snowstorm. Does that referee get to say he's
Speaker 1: picked off Joe Namath? Wow, another interception. You hit the
Speaker 1: wrong button. You hit the wrong button, Joe, you wanted,
Speaker 1: you wanted to, you wanted and you hit the wrong button. Nice,
Speaker 1: nice job, all right. So one more trivia question, one
Speaker 1: more rules question. On coin tosses. There are captains that
Speaker 1: go out for each team. How many what's the maximum
Speaker 1: number of captains that can go out for coin toss? Five? Five?
Speaker 1: Travis max? You can have last, But what's the max? Uh?
Speaker 1: I think I think three? I go three? Decision, geez see,
Speaker 1: I would have I would have went you said five, six,
Speaker 1: I would have went six. I would have done the
Speaker 1: prices right, and I would have won because five point one,
Speaker 1: it's six. That would be the ultimate if somebody did
Speaker 1: that on prices right for s and cents. You're waiting
Speaker 1: outside in the park there, remember no unbelievable alright, So
Speaker 1: let's go to the end of Atlanta San Francisco. What
Speaker 1: a game? What an unbelievable game. An unbelievable game. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a hypothetical bed of the day, Atlanta,
Speaker 1: but I was. Look, I'm not I don't like to
Speaker 1: toot my own horn, but I was on fire. Was
Speaker 1: in the zone on on Atlanta San Francisco. I mean
Speaker 1: left and right, I said, seeing I was seeing plays
Speaker 1: like three or four plays ahead. It was unbelieved. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll ever get back into that zone.
Speaker 1: You were like Tony Romo calling a game. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: You know what, you actually earned your money today. Congratulate,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I appreciate that Twitter wasn't quite
Speaker 1: as harsh today as they normally are. But look, two
Speaker 1: plays at the end of that game, and and and
Speaker 1: definitely things we want to clarify. So um Austin Hooper
Speaker 1: catches what appeared to be the game winning or the
Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown with very little time on the clock
Speaker 1: ruled a touchdown, goes to review, reversed, and we went
Speaker 1: on the air. We talked about the ball touching the
Speaker 1: around and then coming loose and that's why it was
Speaker 1: ruled in complete. It was actually a pool report. I
Speaker 1: know our riveran talked about, Um, you know why they
Speaker 1: overturned that. Travis, just give us some highlights from the
Speaker 1: pool report. I closed my closed it out, so okay,
Speaker 1: So we were gonna talk about the pool report. We
Speaker 1: went through what we and you closed down. Okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So they basically said that the receiver was going to
Speaker 1: the ground to make the catch and so there was
Speaker 1: no football move, there was no reach, there was no
Speaker 1: additional steps, so he still had to survive the ground.
Speaker 1: The ball touched the ground. I know there was some
Speaker 1: people on on social media thought the ball touched his foot.
Speaker 1: Um to me, the ball hit the ground without question,
Speaker 1: and then after it hit the ground, the ball clearly
Speaker 1: came loose and that's why it was ruled incomplete. I
Speaker 1: thought it was the right call. They overturned it, and uh,
Speaker 1: and it was interesting because it reminded me, oh yeah, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I asked you right after. It was like,
Speaker 1: this was a very reminiscent play of the Desk catch
Speaker 1: because he didn't control it through the ground. Was was
Speaker 1: the thing that everyone always heard you repeat on that
Speaker 1: it was similar. It was similar. The control aspect was
Speaker 1: very similar, but it was different because it was in
Speaker 1: the end zone versus well, no, they were both the Well,
Speaker 1: the Hooper play was in the end zone, but but
Speaker 1: the des play was. It was similar from a control
Speaker 1: aspect because the ball hit the ground and then it
Speaker 1: came loose, which was the same as the play in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. The difference in the des play then the
Speaker 1: Hooper play was that Hooper didn't perform in that common
Speaker 1: to the game. What they've since they've changed the rule.
Speaker 1: They've said a third step or a reach would supersede
Speaker 1: him holding onto the ball when he hit the ground.
Speaker 1: That's why the des play would be a catch today
Speaker 1: because of the rule change. But from a control aspect,
Speaker 1: it was very similar to the ball touched the ground
Speaker 1: and then came loose, and uh, you know, I thought
Speaker 1: that was the right call and complete. So then we
Speaker 1: got next play. Atlanta is out of time outs and
Speaker 1: this was really interesting. The ruling on the field was
Speaker 1: that Julio Jones catches a pass right at the goal line,
Speaker 1: gets hit immediately tackled. The official is coming in with
Speaker 1: his arm up in the field of play rules the
Speaker 1: ball short. The clock operator stops the clock with one
Speaker 1: second on the clock, which is a mistake because there's
Speaker 1: no reason to stop the clock. Time should have expired.
Speaker 1: It went to review. Now, I want to start with
Speaker 1: what what was interesting to me is there were a
Speaker 1: lot of people that were tweeting at me and ask
Speaker 1: me questions, how can they review that because they didn't
Speaker 1: rule a score, And I think they lost sight of
Speaker 1: the fact that we were inside two minutes, and inside
Speaker 1: two minutes everything everything automatically reviewed, right, So anything that's
Speaker 1: a reviewable aspect, regardless of whether that play was ruled
Speaker 1: a touchdown or not, it's going to get looked at
Speaker 1: because we're inside of two minutes. And I think people
Speaker 1: were confused because we had the play last week Nikkila
Speaker 1: Harry in New England that was outside two minutes. It
Speaker 1: was not rule to score. New England was out of challenges.
Speaker 1: They couldn't review it. Had the Harry play happened inside
Speaker 1: two minutes, it certainly would have been fixed. Um So
Speaker 1: again ball broke the plane of the goal line. As
Speaker 1: soon as it breaks that plane, it is a touchdown.
Speaker 1: They put two seconds back on the clock, which was
Speaker 1: important because the Falcons then had to kick off and
Speaker 1: uh in San Francisco tried a bunch of laterals and
Speaker 1: the Falcons end up getting a cheap score at the
Speaker 1: end of which I'm sure someone somewhere, somewhere someone was
Speaker 1: very upset with that. Scores Allah. The Washington Eagles game
Speaker 1: very similar to today, very very very if you're into
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Um, very bad beats on touchdowns
Speaker 1: and hypothetic on that one. And I remember for all
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Speaker 1: You could win hypothetical, you can lose the hypothetical house.
Speaker 1: You can hypothetical. I lost the hypothetical house again. So
Speaker 1: before we go to a break, I do want to
Speaker 1: touch on because again past inference. It was a quiet
Speaker 1: week for past inference review. You know, there were a
Speaker 1: couple of challenges for calls that were not made on
Speaker 1: the field, and and I think they all stood and um,
Speaker 1: but one that stood out, and again going back, not
Speaker 1: because I was on fire, but going back to that
Speaker 1: game Atlanta San Francisco, the it was. It was Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: There was a grab of the jersey during the route,
Speaker 1: no call in the field, the Falcons challenge, they lost
Speaker 1: the challenge. And it was interesting because the jersey grab
Speaker 1: before the passes in the air is defensive holding. And
Speaker 1: I thought that that grab was enough to call defensive holding.
Speaker 1: But once the ball is in the air, now that grab,
Speaker 1: now it transitions to past inference and it's not just
Speaker 1: a grab, it's a did that grab? And the language again,
Speaker 1: and we've heard it over and over and over. Did
Speaker 1: it significantly hinder the receiver or the player's ability to
Speaker 1: make a play on the ball, And that's where it
Speaker 1: comes into play. And to me, it was close, but
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was obvious that that took either
Speaker 1: a step away or prevented Julio from getting his arms
Speaker 1: up to make the catch. And I know that's one
Speaker 1: of the things, that's one of the things they look
Speaker 1: for when they're reviewing these types of play. So I
Speaker 1: thought that stands was the proper ruling, and and again,
Speaker 1: had it been called on the field, I don't think
Speaker 1: it gets changed. But it wasn't called on the field,
Speaker 1: it doesn't get changed. And so there is that little
Speaker 1: gray area where depending on what they call in the field,
Speaker 1: is that's ultimately going to determine what happens in replay.
Speaker 1: And that was one of those plays. Um, So I
Speaker 1: don't know if you have any other thoughts on that
Speaker 1: player that game, if you want to give me any
Speaker 1: more props or anymore kudos. So let's go to a break,
Speaker 1: and and when we come back, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: penalties and how committing fouls can impact your playoff chances.
Speaker 1: Next on good calls. All right, we're back on good calls.
Speaker 1: So Travis did a little research and these are these
Speaker 1: are the lead keeps official numbers, and sometimes penalty numbers change,
Speaker 1: but these are unofficial numbers. But I thought it was
Speaker 1: a really interesting topic that he brought up. And we
Speaker 1: had talked about, okay, penalties and and is having more
Speaker 1: penalties than your opponent, um, is that a significant factor
Speaker 1: in the outcome of the game. And we ran some numbers, uh,
Speaker 1: probably maybe four or five weeks ago, and and and
Speaker 1: these numbers are pretty consistent with where the league has
Speaker 1: been that having more penalties than your opponent, it really
Speaker 1: doesn't impact the percentage, the winning percentage. It's pretty much
Speaker 1: around um in terms of having more or less. There's
Speaker 1: really no significant difference. When you talk about one factor
Speaker 1: in a game that that really drives wins and losses
Speaker 1: its turnovers. Right, if you have more turnovers than your opponent,
Speaker 1: I mean you're losing. It's it's it's in the seventy
Speaker 1: seventy percentile um in terms of losing games when you
Speaker 1: have more turnovers than your than your opponent. But we
Speaker 1: did look at the teams at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: list in terms of most penalties called all right, and
Speaker 1: when you look at that list and where they are
Speaker 1: in terms of playoff possibilities, it's really it's eye opening.
Speaker 1: And you look at you look at the list of
Speaker 1: so the most penalized team Jacksonville, they've already been eliminated,
Speaker 1: and then you've got you've got Tampa, Okay eliminated. Oakland
Speaker 1: less than one perchance one percent chance to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: Cleveland less than one one percent chance both at six
Speaker 1: and eight. Jets eliminated, Arizona eliminated, Detroit eliminated. You have
Speaker 1: to get down to the eighth most penalized team before
Speaker 1: you have a team in Houston that is most likely
Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. So it's just interesting that
Speaker 1: the teams, the teams, the more disciplined teams overall are
Speaker 1: going to be the teams that are in the playoff
Speaker 1: hunt and that are making you make less mistakes. So
Speaker 1: it's it's just again, it's really interesting to look at
Speaker 1: those numbers, um, where Houston is the one team when
Speaker 1: you get down to number eight that is, uh, that
Speaker 1: is gonna make make the playoffs. So um. The other
Speaker 1: thing that we were talking about is is the NFC
Speaker 1: East or is Travis Travis like not the only call
Speaker 1: at the NFC least? I mean that's lazy, I mean
Speaker 1: it is, but it's kind of it's usually NFC Beast though,
Speaker 1: because those teams are usually right in the hunt. Go
Speaker 1: like that. So, and we talked about and this brought
Speaker 1: up a good conversation. We were talking about the playoff
Speaker 1: seeding because now you have you have the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Eagles and they're both seven and seven. Um, you've
Speaker 1: got you've got teams that are in the wild card
Speaker 1: right now, Travis, Right, so you've got you've got teams
Speaker 1: like New Orleans, which I don't know what San Francisco's lost.
Speaker 1: New Orleans do they jump in but either Um, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be San Francisco. But Travis, go through it.
Speaker 1: Seattle's right now in the one seed Green Bays and
Speaker 1: the two seed, and and then down at five in
Speaker 1: San Francisco at eleven and three with the same record
Speaker 1: but behind Seattle and the tiebreaker, and they would be
Speaker 1: going to Dallas or so at eleven and three right
Speaker 1: now more than likely. It's it's it's highly likely that
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a team with a better record going
Speaker 1: to either Philadelphia or Dallas for a wild card game.
Speaker 1: And and and and there are a lot of people that
Speaker 1: think that's not fair, and you go back to right
Speaker 1: that The one that kind of jumps out is the
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten postseason when you had a seven
Speaker 1: and nine Seattle Division winner hosting an eleven and five
Speaker 1: Saints team and Saints had to go to Seattle, which
Speaker 1: is which is a tough place to play and long
Speaker 1: trip to Seattle. End up winning that game. That was
Speaker 1: the Beast Quake game with Marshawn and that and that
Speaker 1: uh and that amazing run, and it kind of begs
Speaker 1: the question of should the NFL look at playoff seating
Speaker 1: and and should they look at the division champions differently?
Speaker 1: And there were you know, during that time, there were
Speaker 1: proposals two thousand and eight, two thousand nine, there were
Speaker 1: teams clubs that were proposing a change and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a by law proposal. So the playoffs seating, it's
Speaker 1: not a rule that that is in the rule book.
Speaker 1: It's in the by laws. And so if you want
Speaker 1: to propose a change to a by law, that's how
Speaker 1: you do it. And the proposal, one of the proposals
Speaker 1: was to have the division winners with the best records,
Speaker 1: the top two division winners that seed one and that
Speaker 1: seed to Okay, and then everybody else is by record.
Speaker 1: So so the third best division winner and the fourth
Speaker 1: best division winner is grouped in with the wild cards
Speaker 1: and you go by record, and so you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: you'd have to be one of those two top division
Speaker 1: winners to not get lumped into that wild card group,
Speaker 1: and you would potentially prevent a team with a with
Speaker 1: a losing record hosting a team with a with a
Speaker 1: much better record. Why is this important to what what
Speaker 1: the owners doing? Why they've kind of shot it down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's and and the argument obviously there there's this, there's
Speaker 1: an argument for it. There's a couple of arguments for it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: just just the optics of a seven and nine team
Speaker 1: hosting an eleven and five team. Right. The other thing
Speaker 1: is when you have a team. One of the things
Speaker 1: the issues is with the with the division winner getting
Speaker 1: those those top seeds is sometimes a team can get
Speaker 1: locked into a seed and the games at the end
Speaker 1: of the year aren't as competitive they We've seen teams
Speaker 1: rest started. You've seen rest starters. You've seen that, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know New England's locked into the two seed or
Speaker 1: or or the Falcons are locked into the three seed.
Speaker 1: And if you open that up, then you would have
Speaker 1: more meaningful games at the end of the year. So
Speaker 1: that's one of the arguments for it. The argument against it,
Speaker 1: and this is the one where a lot of clubs
Speaker 1: were saying, is that the division means something. You are
Speaker 1: playing those teams in your division twice a year, okay,
Speaker 1: every any any other opponent you're playing once. You don't
Speaker 1: see every team every year. You're playing those teams twice
Speaker 1: a year. And and one of the things, and this
Speaker 1: is this may not seem like a on field thing,
Speaker 1: but the way clubs sells season tickets, one of the
Speaker 1: biggest selling points is if we win our division, we
Speaker 1: will host a playoff game. And that playoff game is
Speaker 1: is you think about one of the reasons you want
Speaker 1: to buy season tickets is we get to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I want an opportunity to go to those games. And
Speaker 1: so that is a big selling point. Again, we win
Speaker 1: our division, we're gonna host at least one game, and
Speaker 1: that is very important to clubs. And that was the
Speaker 1: biggest reason that I heard. Again, division matchups are important.
Speaker 1: You have those rivalries, you're playing them twice a year,
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's something and it's a way that
Speaker 1: the clubs can can pitch those season tickets. And again,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys, like, how do you
Speaker 1: guys feel about it? Um? You know, if you had
Speaker 1: a choice, what what makes sense? Um? You know as
Speaker 1: a fan, like, what do you think? Go ahead? I mean,
Speaker 1: I like NBA where it's receded every every round to
Speaker 1: the best team is always playing the worst team. The
Speaker 1: best record is always playing the worst record. That's that's good,
Speaker 1: very fair, you reward that team for having the best record.
Speaker 1: But I actually like it with the way it is
Speaker 1: now with a division winner hosting that game because you
Speaker 1: you build your roster, team can build the roster to
Speaker 1: beat the teams in your division so you can get
Speaker 1: that home playoff game. Yeah. No, it's interesting because like
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't received right, and that's one of the things,
Speaker 1: like you said, the NBA and um they do. But
Speaker 1: again it comes down to the clubs really feel like
Speaker 1: that division is so so important and it's gonna be Look,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come up again because again you're gonna have
Speaker 1: I mean, who will right it? Could I don't know,
Speaker 1: could that Could Philly win next week? And if Philly
Speaker 1: wins next week and then loses week seventeen and Dallas
Speaker 1: wins week seventeen, who wins the division? Well, Dallas would
Speaker 1: be five and one in the division and they both
Speaker 1: be eight and I don't know what the head to
Speaker 1: head is, well, they had to have would be one one,
Speaker 1: so the division would be the common in Dallas would
Speaker 1: would get it. So it's it's interesting, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of but I don't think that honestly, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a change. I I don't. It would
Speaker 1: have to take something significant. You don't see very rarely.
Speaker 1: If you look at division winners over the last however
Speaker 1: many years, it's it's very rare where a team is
Speaker 1: going to have a record that's and even even eight
Speaker 1: and eight. I was rooting for the Chaos of six
Speaker 1: and ten NFC six when I proposed this topic that
Speaker 1: that was that was a chance that Dallas or Philly
Speaker 1: could win at six and ten, And then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this this may be a huge Well yeah, well if
Speaker 1: they both lost on Sunday, but still somebody's gonna somebody
Speaker 1: has to win. Or what would have been amazing if
Speaker 1: that they both lose on Sunday they tie, So so
Speaker 1: there's six eight and one and they both lose six
Speaker 1: nine and one, Yeah, would have been interesting. It just
Speaker 1: looks ugly. You like the k you like the Joker,
Speaker 1: and you just some men just want to see the
Speaker 1: world burn. No that's not true. Just you went from
Speaker 1: standard white guy that like now like some kind of
Speaker 1: crazy anarchist. Well that's not true. Kind of well, with
Speaker 1: the d M you got, I have to kind of
Speaker 1: change how I how I am. You know what, Let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and when we come back, we'll
Speaker 1: go to d M from the Cube and we're gonna
Speaker 1: call my brother. Yeah, I'm gonna call my brother, all right,
Speaker 1: next on good Calls. All right, we're back from good Calls.
Speaker 1: And you know, a couple of weeks ago, we called
Speaker 1: my brother Dave, and he gave us his thoughts on
Speaker 1: NFL and life. And he's very opinionated. He texted me
Speaker 1: during the games all the time. He's not real high
Speaker 1: on officiating. He's not real high on officials at any
Speaker 1: level of any sport. But um, so we're gonna call him.
Speaker 1: What's gonna see if he's home, and we're just gonna
Speaker 1: talk to him. See, you know, we want to check
Speaker 1: in see how how the last month has been for
Speaker 1: him in NFL and if he's got any if he's
Speaker 1: got any pearls for us. So, Joe, let's up, let's
Speaker 1: call him. Let's do it. Hello, what's up? What's going on? Nothing?
Speaker 1: You're on with Travis and Joe and so we're good.
Speaker 1: We want to talk about. Just give us your take
Speaker 1: on the last couple of weeks of NFL and anything specific.
Speaker 1: Where where are you with the rules and officiating right now? Awful?
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think something's changed? I don't
Speaker 1: know has gotten. It's gotten worse. It's gotten every week,
Speaker 1: it gets worse. I mean, I don't even know why
Speaker 1: you're asking that question. Um, are you watching tonight's game?
Speaker 1: We have it on, well, we have it on in
Speaker 1: the background. Yeah, okay, So did you see the face mask?
Speaker 1: Call it at the end of Okay, you didn't see
Speaker 1: it because it wasn't there. That's why you didn't see it.
Speaker 1: And they showed them to replay, and everyone's saying there's
Speaker 1: no face. But I don't understand why you have replay.
Speaker 1: Why can't they review that? I mean, it gives Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: the ball on like the first and tent on like
Speaker 1: the twelve yard line. It just changes the game. You know.
Speaker 1: It's just you can't watch it. You can't. I told
Speaker 1: you that you can't watch this game, and and it's
Speaker 1: either to watch. I watched because it's getting comicals. That's
Speaker 1: why I watched. Okay, So if the sport is not fixed,
Speaker 1: then the refs are just that bad. It could be
Speaker 1: that this is a very difficult sport to officiate. It's
Speaker 1: very fast, and we get to look at it in
Speaker 1: slow motion replay four different times. Put back the Bill's
Speaker 1: game and watch the face mask call with two minutes
Speaker 1: left in the half. You can see that a two
Speaker 1: year old can see that there was nothing was close
Speaker 1: to this guy's face. When when the guy called personal foul,
Speaker 1: I thought they were calling it for that, you know,
Speaker 1: that tackling hard too too much that they've been calling.
Speaker 1: I thought they were call I thought they were throwing
Speaker 1: the flag because because the guy who made the hit
Speaker 1: at the end, maybe hit him a little too hard,
Speaker 1: maybe you hurt something. But then they turned around and
Speaker 1: say face masks, and I'm like, well, I didn't see
Speaker 1: any they showed the replay. I mean, it's not even close.
Speaker 1: There is no hand even near the guy's helmet or face.
Speaker 1: So they just missed it. Now they missed it. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the name of your show? Good calls? How about
Speaker 1: bad calls or missed calls? There's no such thing as
Speaker 1: a good call anymore. I don't get it. I really
Speaker 1: don't get it. Thanks for the show plug though, what
Speaker 1: what other what other calls like have whether it was
Speaker 1: Sunday or one other calls? Just I texted you. I
Speaker 1: texted you earlier the what was it the Texans Titans game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you said there was a call in the Texans the
Speaker 1: guy made the guy made a clean hit, unnecessary roughness.
Speaker 1: It's just I told you this is a contact sport,
Speaker 1: but the rest are taking the contact out of contact sport.
Speaker 1: Make the damn leak too and touch. You know, at
Speaker 1: least we know what we're getting the things. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody to watch the two hand touch football game.
Speaker 1: It's comical. I'm telling you. People are watching it just
Speaker 1: it's just for the fun part of this. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: Fantasy football is now with with the playoffs, so people
Speaker 1: are watching. They want to see their players and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Hey, Dave, do you do you watch your
Speaker 1: brother and when he comes on TV? Yeah, that's comical
Speaker 1: to wait, you know, Dean got watch. Dean got a
Speaker 1: lot of praise today for his for his performance. Did
Speaker 1: you did you happen to see him during the Atlantic
Speaker 1: game moments? All he does now was given opinion. That's
Speaker 1: all he does. Anyone can give it opinion. I'm not
Speaker 1: impressed with any of that. When anyone could give anyone
Speaker 1: can give an opinion, dude, say the real call. Who
Speaker 1: are you agreeing with? You know has no clue what
Speaker 1: they're doing, so it's not hard to say that call
Speaker 1: is gonna stand. You know, You've got a lot of
Speaker 1: prop today for his for his on air, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to explain the rule and and walk the viewer through
Speaker 1: what's happening and how they're looking at this. The reason
Speaker 1: why the only thing I give you credit for is
Speaker 1: when when you were in charge of this garbage, you
Speaker 1: at least used to come on and say you know,
Speaker 1: you tried to say it in a nice way, but
Speaker 1: you used to come on and say, yeah, the reps
Speaker 1: missed that one. The rest this this one. No one's
Speaker 1: coming in now and saying it. At least we feel
Speaker 1: better that that they're saying that the reps are screwing
Speaker 1: up all the time. No one's saying it, but we
Speaker 1: just see screwing up all the time. Because there's a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty players in the game, and and how
Speaker 1: many how many in the game, you really think our
Speaker 1: mistakes there's going to be a mistake half half. Come on,
Speaker 1: they missed calls constantly. We just don't see it because
Speaker 1: we're not you know that they're missing calls. You don't
Speaker 1: have to see every play Listen these tonight's game that
Speaker 1: the head the head ref is how old? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Who's not? Another another another fumble? See Pittsburgh got the
Speaker 1: ball back? Watch the refs are just gonna make win
Speaker 1: this game. The refs caused the fumble. It sounds trusty
Speaker 1: something you don't know. You don't know's I don't with
Speaker 1: the page. It's it's just it's they just give him
Speaker 1: more opportunities that that's what it is. The guy just
Speaker 1: got hit with an arm and the ball popped out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not all right. Well, what do you want? Okay,
Speaker 1: give us okay, before we let you go, what's your
Speaker 1: prediction for the rest of the season, Like, who's gonna
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl? What's how's it gonna play out? Prediction?
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the top teams are the Ravens, the
Speaker 1: forty nine is the Saints, the Seahawks. Um, you think
Speaker 1: any of those teams the Chiefs maybe? Uh? I mean
Speaker 1: in popping in there, I mean the Cowboys look good today,
Speaker 1: But they're a joke. I don't know what I had
Speaker 1: to throw that in there? Um what else? I even
Speaker 1: put some notes in my thing. He had to say something.
Speaker 1: I listened a few weeks back when you had what's
Speaker 1: his name, Kyle Long? You had him on Kyle Long someone,
Speaker 1: you had him a few weeks back. He was talking
Speaker 1: about a violent sport. Jim, Yeah, whoever was you agree
Speaker 1: with him that it was a violent sport. If it's
Speaker 1: If it's a violent sport, then then why are we
Speaker 1: babing them? You know what I mean? Like, what's the
Speaker 1: point of a helmet? Isn't it to protect your head?
Speaker 1: It is, yes, it's but but I think you want
Speaker 1: to protect the players from unnecessary risk, not not There
Speaker 1: is going to be contact, but you don't have to
Speaker 1: go if you go head hunting or no one's head hunting.
Speaker 1: If if a quarterback is running with the ball to
Speaker 1: get that first down and less a second he slides.
Speaker 1: The defensive player is about to make the tackles, so
Speaker 1: he's squaring up and he's gonna go with his shoulder
Speaker 1: right at the quarterbacks waist. Last second that quarterback slides.
Speaker 1: Now his helmet gets lowered to where his waist is.
Speaker 1: How do you expect the defensive player to pull back?
Speaker 1: That's a very difficult. It's a very difficult thing for
Speaker 1: the defender. It's not difficult. It's impossible, Okay, it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's very difficult because you can't. You have to.
Speaker 1: You have to get contact, headneck area out of the
Speaker 1: game when possible, when possible, it's not possible at that moment.
Speaker 1: When when and that's why, when the quarterback slides, he
Speaker 1: gives himself up and when he's down, he's down. And
Speaker 1: you don't have to. But how do you always sliding?
Speaker 1: How do you always sliding? And and Cala Murray today?
Speaker 1: They just Cala Murray today, just kept going for those
Speaker 1: extra yards. There should be a penalty, like for if
Speaker 1: they started fake sliding things like that. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna put It's not that. If they run the ball,
Speaker 1: they're a runner. That's it. That is the rule though
Speaker 1: that no more rules. All right, listen, listen, we all know.
Speaker 1: The problem is the rules. The problem is the rules
Speaker 1: that messed up. The problem is the refs are a
Speaker 1: hundred years old, and the problem is everyone, the Steelers
Speaker 1: and Patriots get every call there is, so and it's
Speaker 1: just like I said, unwatchable. All right, all right, well
Speaker 1: we'll we'll, we'll check in with you again. But I
Speaker 1: want to want to make sure you still got fantasy
Speaker 1: football going, right, so you're gonna be watching. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I I watched. You know, I fell asleep during the
Speaker 1: four o'clock games though, but I I continue to watch.
Speaker 1: But rewind. Make sure you rewind to the second half,
Speaker 1: two minutes left in the second half and watch the
Speaker 1: first half and then and you know what, they should
Speaker 1: be penalties for the refs too. I told you this
Speaker 1: is the ref sport. Like that ref you should be
Speaker 1: suspended or something like that. They need to get they
Speaker 1: get graded, big deal. They don't lose their job though
Speaker 1: they do, Yes, they do. If they don't perform. They
Speaker 1: do just recently get fired. Last year they fired them
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. But ref skite let
Speaker 1: go every year. Now, well, Pittsburgh just fumbled that they
Speaker 1: got it back. Must have been the referee you're watching.
Speaker 1: There'll be there'll be another two calls in this game.
Speaker 1: There should be an over under on referee screw ups
Speaker 1: every week on the bedding line, all right, and on
Speaker 1: that note, that's my brother. We'll talk to you later,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll talk to you. Wow. So that's that's
Speaker 1: a lot. He's fired up, he is. That is the
Speaker 1: that's Johnny on the street right now. That's the guy
Speaker 1: that he's he's he's your customer right there. He's fired up.
Speaker 1: He doesn't it doesn't like deficiating. You would think, you know,
Speaker 1: he'd have a soft spot because his brother. His brother
Speaker 1: helped you at anyway, all right, so you know a
Speaker 1: couple of things. Joe, did you did you? Did you
Speaker 1: go to Harvard? I've been to Harvard before. Did you
Speaker 1: go to Harvard? Did? I can't tell the stories? Did
Speaker 1: you go to school? And hard? Joe was wearing a
Speaker 1: Harvard T shirt and we were out at a bar
Speaker 1: and this guy, I mean, you can start to Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we're at a bar one night and wearing a
Speaker 1: Harvard shirt. It was on sale six bucks. Is a
Speaker 1: nice soft cotton gray look good on me. I like
Speaker 1: to wear it. Yeah, good coloring. Guy walked up to
Speaker 1: me just charges at me. You didn't go to Harvard.
Speaker 1: I went to Harvard. And I said, well, you're not
Speaker 1: Calvin Klein because he's wearing a Calvin Klein shirt. But
Speaker 1: I love the fact this guy went right to just
Speaker 1: be like as soon as Joe walked in and I
Speaker 1: was going, I'm like, you're very observant. He did not
Speaker 1: go to Harvard. Does he look like a Harvard? Does
Speaker 1: he look like me? I don't know. I think it's
Speaker 1: profiling a little less hair product problems Jersey Shore and
Speaker 1: maybe your Harvard material. I feel like if I was
Speaker 1: four inches taller, Harvard is definitely, of course what I
Speaker 1: do like that he did. He did come back and say,
Speaker 1: you're not you don't know Calvin Klein. But that was
Speaker 1: that was the line, Um I do I do. The
Speaker 1: d M of the week for me was, you know,
Speaker 1: we we talked about Travis. We've given Travis a hard
Speaker 1: time on the on the podcast and he's okay, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not like a thing. But somebody did send
Speaker 1: me a d M on how to handle Travis when
Speaker 1: when he's when he's acting up. So this is this
Speaker 1: is okay, this is I'm reading verbatim Dean love the pod.
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you on Travis. He gets
Speaker 1: out of line a lot. So I figured to give
Speaker 1: you a training idea. I used to train horses growing up,
Speaker 1: and what worked well was spurs. Now, you don't kick
Speaker 1: the horse really hard with spurs like you see in
Speaker 1: the movies. You apply slight pressure and if they respond,
Speaker 1: you release. If they don't listen, you apply more pressure
Speaker 1: until the horse listens to you. So maybe you can
Speaker 1: get a metal rod. And when Travis speaks out of turn,
Speaker 1: gives unwanted opinions, you apply pressure. If he continues, you
Speaker 1: increase the pressure, and when he stops or complies, you
Speaker 1: release food for thought, Travis. Haters are gonna hate, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just giving my opinion, just getting involved. I did, like,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about that all Week's gonna ask me
Speaker 1: about that. I got to use that. I gotta use no.
Speaker 1: But it's great though, I got I got people talking
Speaker 1: about me, and this is great. I like it because
Speaker 1: no presses and the way you said it. Haters are
Speaker 1: gonna hate. Haters are going to hate. I wanna I
Speaker 1: want you I do. It's great. I don't you want
Speaker 1: to feel old? Okay, actually not, I'm serious. I don't like.
Speaker 1: I consider myself pretty active. I love to work out
Speaker 1: and like whether to work out, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: we we train like m M a cardio, all of that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. I climbed a fence on Saturday,
Speaker 1: like a fence. We're playing basketball with my boys. The
Speaker 1: ball went over where at the school. The ball went
Speaker 1: over the fence because we were trying half court trick
Speaker 1: shots and the ball went over the fence and I
Speaker 1: had to climb over the fence to get it and
Speaker 1: then climb back. I've never I have never been more
Speaker 1: tired in the last ten years than climbing that fancy
Speaker 1: confences all the time as a kid. Do you want
Speaker 1: to feel old climbing fence? I've never I literally had
Speaker 1: to take a five minute break because it was climbing
Speaker 1: the fence old man. It's kind of like those rope
Speaker 1: and I was like yeah, and like people were there
Speaker 1: and I was trying to be cool and like hop
Speaker 1: it real, like very graceful, not at all. I did
Speaker 1: a gate a few weeks ago in flip flops and
Speaker 1: it wasn't terrible. It hurts your It kind of hurts
Speaker 1: a little bit, but since it's not chain link, it
Speaker 1: doesn't you're not It's not as much core. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've learned what jumping over fences, are jumping over things
Speaker 1: now like when you come down landing, it's not as
Speaker 1: easy as it used definitely not like, Oh the landing
Speaker 1: is the worst part. I literally, like seriously, like I
Speaker 1: was standing on top of the fence and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do here. You don't you
Speaker 1: don't jump like we didn't wear your kids. You have
Speaker 1: to come. You have to scale down. That roll doesn't
Speaker 1: work when you're pushing forward. Yeah, like climbing down like
Speaker 1: you never as a kid. You never like climbed down
Speaker 1: the fence and then jumped and if it was real high.
Speaker 1: You came to a role at the Yeah, it'll tuck
Speaker 1: and roll. It used to jump off the garage that
Speaker 1: this this falls in the You know when you're old,
Speaker 1: you're definitely old. I haven't felt that old in a while.
Speaker 1: But anyway, well, you look great. Thanks, Thanks man, that's
Speaker 1: all you look. You look you're doing good So's hair product. Thanks.
Speaker 1: But before we get into the brain of Blandino and
Speaker 1: wrap up the show, have any of you you guys done
Speaker 1: twenty three and me? I have not. So my sister
Speaker 1: did it, and they were asking. She asked, she wants
Speaker 1: me to do it, and I think that. So Scott,
Speaker 1: who works in the studio with us, he had a
Speaker 1: great line. He's like, why would you do it? He's like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna You're gonna get the package and you're gonna
Speaker 1: open up. It's gonna be a meat ball. So but
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, I don't know how one day.
Speaker 1: So does that mean if if there will be a
Speaker 1: world one day where Italian Americans are not discriminated against,
Speaker 1: if Travis does when they're just gonna send him a
Speaker 1: Sperry Topsider, Yeah exactly basically, or I p a some
Speaker 1: ludafisc Yeah yeah. So but yeah, I'm like mainly I'm
Speaker 1: like nine percent Italian. You know, my mom was born
Speaker 1: in Italy. Um Italian, a little bit of Greek and
Speaker 1: a little bit Turkish. I didn't know. I guess this
Speaker 1: is my sister who knows um, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: the Turkish angle. But hey, there you come, it's goody three,
Speaker 1: let's go, Brandon Blandino, all right, let's do it. Twitter
Speaker 1: getting rid of like button devastated. How will I know myself? Worth? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was Twitter talked about that. This was I read something.
Speaker 1: This is a while back that they were discussing getting
Speaker 1: rid of the like button, and I think Instagram is
Speaker 1: doing this. Instagrams talked about the same thing, like how
Speaker 1: did what People will lose their minds? Like, how do
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, like they're gonna lose their minds without
Speaker 1: a like button? How are you know if you're making
Speaker 1: a difference in the world. How will you know if
Speaker 1: people like your picture? Yeah, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 1: You gotta comment and retweet you want, you want to
Speaker 1: encourage people to comment on Twitter? Crazy. I think it's
Speaker 1: just gonna yeah, everybody's going to comment like a thumbs
Speaker 1: up or some stupid emoji. I think the light button
Speaker 1: keep it. It's easy. It's interesting that YouTube still has
Speaker 1: the thumbs down, right, you can still you can still
Speaker 1: not like something on YouTube and make it known. I think, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in that. That why they they've kept that
Speaker 1: because they feel like that's very negative. And Twitter it's
Speaker 1: good for like when you're listening to music and stuff too,
Speaker 1: because they have it on you know, Pandora. Not not
Speaker 1: everything that works all the time, Dean. It's not always
Speaker 1: just about happy. You know, sometimes your video sucks and
Speaker 1: we need to let you know what I'm I'm believe
Speaker 1: me like anybody thinks what things that. I have a
Speaker 1: problem with people being negative on social media. I just
Speaker 1: think again, I think people would lose their minds if
Speaker 1: they would get over it about that. Travis. You you
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