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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation. How we doing Yeah, us two?

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Speaker 2: Our number two here not great, But Matt Williamson tells

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Speaker 2: me he's got some positivity for me here and our

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Speaker 2: number two to make me feel better. But Matt, before that,

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Speaker 2: Derek Harmon speaking just a little while ago in the

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Speaker 2: locker room, saying, you don't let a loss get to

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Speaker 2: your heart, and you don't let a win get to

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Speaker 2: your head. Wise words there from the rookie, and maybe

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Speaker 2: I could take maybe I could take that to heart

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Speaker 2: here on this Monday.

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Speaker 3: He shows time and time again that he's a well

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Speaker 3: spoken young man that knows the game really well. And

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Speaker 3: you know those guys don't bust.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be a important player for this franchise for

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Speaker 2: the next decade. I let this loss get to my heart.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I bet. I'm making there, I'm

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Speaker 2: making I'm making no bones about it. I wanted the

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Speaker 2: rest going into the playoffs. I wanted the easy feed

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Speaker 2: up Sunday one o'clock kickoff, and now I'm a little

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Speaker 2: more doom and gloom. But I'll respond by tomorrow. But

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Speaker 2: you mentioned that there was something you wanted to run

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Speaker 2: by me here that might make me feel a little

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Speaker 2: bit better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in pursuit of brought some of the stuff up

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Speaker 3: in the show I mentioned and you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: looking forward situation that first off. And I'll say this

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Speaker 3: a lot this week, but it happens Ravens have a

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Speaker 3: rest advantage. You know, I'm not big on that yet again,

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Speaker 3: but the Steelers are at a rest disadvantage. Only one

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Speaker 3: game in your at home, so it's not that big

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Speaker 3: of the ones common opponent. But I do think the

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Speaker 3: fact that it's a common opponent and these teams know

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Speaker 3: each other so well probably works in your favor, not

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Speaker 3: that it doesn't work in the Ravens favor. But I'm

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Speaker 3: sure Tomlin and company will watch the Browns tape and

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Speaker 3: be like, I know exactly how hard I was going

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Speaker 3: to attack us, which isn't rocket science. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be a ton of their henry and it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: man coverage on the outside, a single.

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Speaker 4: High yes, but they don't rush the passer as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they got to generate blitz to get home

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Speaker 3: against you know, but well where a pursuit of was

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Speaker 3: going with this, and I thought it was a good

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Speaker 3: angle too, though He's like, all the matters is week eighteen,

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Speaker 3: and yes, you'd love the rest.

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Speaker 4: And it's a games you win. It's a games you win.

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Speaker 4: It's games you win. I know that.

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Speaker 3: But you at least got a test run of what

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Speaker 3: not to do and how to gain plan without Metcalf.

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Speaker 3: You know what kind of defenses you're gonna see. There'll

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Speaker 3: be different human beings doing the coverage, the pass rush,

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Speaker 3: the tackling, the play calling, but you have a pretty

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Speaker 3: good idea of how the Ravens are going to attack you,

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Speaker 3: especially because you know the organization so well. And I

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Speaker 3: think you learned what to do and what not to

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Speaker 3: do by kind of a practice run, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. Sure, I mean I think there's something to

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Speaker 3: be taken away from that, and if not, you should

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Speaker 3: be critical of the coaching staff that you didn't learn

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Speaker 3: from your mistakes in some ways, or critic goal of

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Speaker 3: Rogers for check into a past too much. I don't

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Speaker 3: need go balls of Scottie Miller against Humphrey or whatever

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Speaker 3: next week, you know what I mean, Let's just run

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Speaker 3: the ball and make it mooth centric and so I

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Speaker 3: think that stuff's kind of interesting, and you know, something

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Speaker 3: to take away from it at least is hey, you

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Speaker 3: did this and the other thing. And maybe it's true

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Speaker 3: know what their injury situation is, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get more clarity on that later in the week.

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Speaker 3: But I think there's a better chance that you have Watsiamalu,

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Speaker 3: Pierre Austin this week than last. Well there's a zero

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Speaker 3: percent last week, or at least there's a chance for

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Speaker 3: getting those guys back.

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Speaker 4: You lost Washington.

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Speaker 2: I think DK would be the one that I would

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Speaker 2: I mean, I will say I didn't really I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have Peg Pursuda to be like the no, the you

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Speaker 2: know Sergeant Optimism there right right right, Well, I might

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Speaker 2: be major misery and he's Sergeant opt All those things

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Speaker 2: are very true. I just didn't want them to have

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Speaker 2: to have to worry about operating with DK Metcalf more

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Speaker 2: suspending for a game that doesn't matter. Great, we got

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Speaker 4: And again this is a hand on Monday, I think.

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Speaker 2: I speaking of hand as this all, you know, comes

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Speaker 2: full circle for us. I think my my biggest doom

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Speaker 2: and gloom thing to today is they keep showing Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers and I want to go back and watch the broadcast,

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Speaker 2: you know, because again I'm in the booth and I'm

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Speaker 2: are going on. But it seemed like in that fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: and everything, every time I looked up, it would be

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench with Arthur Smith, Tom

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Speaker 2: his wrist, And all I kept thinking was you have

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Speaker 2: to find a way to win this game, because your

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Speaker 2: quarterback needs a week off before the playoffs, and instead

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Speaker 2: now he's instead, Now he's gonna get you know, the

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Speaker 2: most physical, violent opponent that you play every single year

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Speaker 2: coming to your house with bad intentions.

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Speaker 4: So there's no way around any of those things. Again,

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Speaker 4: your best defensive player.

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Speaker 2: Is at worst gonna probably be pretty rusty on Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: After the oldest defensive tackle has played the most snaps

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Speaker 2: Over the like that, and there's don't get me wrong again,

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Speaker 2: by the time we get to the end of the

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Speaker 2: week and we give predictions and we picked the game

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Speaker 2: and all that, Like, I will not be doom and

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Speaker 2: more doom and gloom now in the bigger picture of things,

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Speaker 2: I felt like you really needed a week eighteen off

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Speaker 2: and see the same thing where you're actually turning a corner. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but all that stuff that PURSUEDA said is true.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, I mean you there's two ways of looking

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Speaker 4: at what could have been or.

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Speaker 3: And then now what you got, you got, what you

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Speaker 3: do is okay totally, but you got one game to

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Speaker 3: prepare for that ends our season.

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Speaker 4: These are the cards in our hand, doesn't matter what.

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Speaker 2: And then when we got then we'll worry about the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and the rest and the health and all that

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Speaker 4: It's not what you wanted, there's no doubt. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: It is. It is not over. And that's hey, that's

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Speaker 2: what the you know, that's what the three week that's

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Speaker 2: what the three week streak afforded this team was not

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Speaker 2: much but a little bit of leeway down the stretch here.

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately they they you know, would have you would

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Speaker 3: Set up really nice for you, you know, and you

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Speaker 2: It's it's like you ever play Uno, you ever played

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm the victor. I'm out. You know, like whereas

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Speaker 2: now it's like the Steelers just got hit with a

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Speaker 2: draw four, you know, right right as you were about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's exactly what happened, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And you're right. I like, if you want some you

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Speaker 2: want some optimism from me, I think I think the

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Speaker 2: Steelers have won like like eight of their last twelve

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Speaker 2: or nine of their last twelve against the Ravens. Maybe

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Speaker 2: very good. I mean it's it's like nine and three,

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Speaker 2: It's a primetime game where the Steelers at home in

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Speaker 2: prime time. Over the last few years, I know this

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Speaker 2: year they likesed nine of the last twelve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty good and hasn't been there for every

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Speaker 2: Might be, but he might not. Yeah, exactly right. I

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Speaker 2: wonder do you think with the early line, which I've

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Speaker 2: seen at three three and a half, Baltimore favored just

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Speaker 2: depending on where you look, do you think that is

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Speaker 2: an inkling of Vegas expects Lamar to play? Am I

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Speaker 2: am I going too early? Am I jumping the gun.

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Speaker 4: On a little too early?

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Speaker 3: I just think one team is coming off a much

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Speaker 3: better performance than the other.

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Speaker 4: That's true, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean one went on the road to beat Green

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Speaker 2: The concerning part right now about Baltimore is if Henry

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Speaker 2: can run like that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, which he often does in December and in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: His history is one of the greatest running backs in

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Speaker 2: NFL history in December.

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Speaker 3: But they still have a lot of problems. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that the Ravens are a lot scarier now than

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Speaker 3: they were in the first meeting there two or three

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. Now, if it comes back that Lamar's perfectly

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Speaker 3: fine and he's you know, thousand percent, I'd be like

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Speaker 3: an inclination that he's gonna play.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things going on there.

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Speaker 2: There are Baltimore currently three and a half point favorites

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Speaker 2: over the Steelers Sunday night.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I totally get, you know, I mean in terms

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Speaker 3: of remember what Vegas is trying to do.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to get the whole world to bet on

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And there's a taste in your mouth is a

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Speaker 4: You know, you have a much better taste in your

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Speaker 4: mouth about a.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, Yeah, one hundred percent. And so yeah,

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Speaker 2: here we are. I think that's you know, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, I did think of one or two

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Speaker 2: Every time I look over at you, I chuckle a

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Speaker 4: Come a long way and he sure has.

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Speaker 3: He is going to be a free agent, Yes he is.

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Speaker 3: He is not cost a draft pick. He goodbye him.

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Speaker 3: We will have a lot of Malik Willis conversations. Trust me,

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Speaker 2: Eighteen of twenty one, two hundred and eighty eight yards

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Speaker 3: And he's still as talented as he was coming out

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Speaker 2: Seen, liberty, liberty, liberty, Liberty. Yeah, I Malik looks like Malik.

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Speaker 4: Willer's plenty about Willis. I can promise you.

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Speaker 2: I was like four years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'll take this. I like what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's on record. Willis was my favorite quarterback in that

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Speaker 3: I've always voted for Willis. That didn't happen. I don't

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Speaker 3: I mean different times. Sure, all I'm looking at is

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Speaker 4: I am highly interested. Oh other team should be too.

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Speaker 4: The defense is an embarrassment right now. They run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, yep, Burrow Higgins's chase there, gonna put points.

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Speaker 2: Fifty fifty one points and what was that highest over

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Speaker 4: If smart people pick them to win the North next year,

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Speaker 4: I would get it.

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Speaker 2: If they have a good offseason, they could certainly could

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Speaker 3: Not sure what to take in Miami. They're they're kind

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, yeah, yea, yeah, I was. They played Miami last.

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Speaker 4: I thought they would score more.

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Speaker 4: I thought that would be start all your fantasy guys.

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Speaker 2: Actually they under just hit in that and that one

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Speaking of which a team that is

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Speaker 4: My rookie of the year that I hope some people

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Speaker 4: you're so in it if.

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Speaker 2: You tell you what you should listen to this Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson guy. Sometimes you know, he he he he kisses

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Speaker 3: If I have free time, I'm going to go out

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Speaker 3: I think both of them have a good future. I

441
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 3: think both these organizations have some optimism. I mean, I

442
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,119
Speaker 3: think there's something to be said here. The Saints d

443
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 3: isn't a joke. Right now at Laves a Star is

444
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 3: playing well. Yeah, and Ward's getting better and better. So

445
00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 3: this was a This was not Raiders by any sh no, No,

446
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,199
Speaker 3: I mean a whole different world.

447
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 2: These are two organizations that are trending upward.

448
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.

449
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,199
Speaker 2: The Arrow might not be drastically up, but it's definitely up.

450
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 4: I don't think their next year's Patriots, you know, that

451
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 4: type of thing, but I'd be excited from where I'm

452
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 4: at in those worlds.

453
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: Jags get it done in Indy in a close one, Matt.

454
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: The Jags needed to get it done, and they did.

455
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 2: In Indianapolis. They stay at the forefront of that division.

456
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 2: They moved to twelve and four Jacksonville just beating everybody

457
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 2: twenty three to seventeen. Over the Colts. Trevor Lawrence was

458
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 2: efficient once again. They ran the ball well, they spread it.

459
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: They've got some real weapons, you know, a wide receiver there,

460
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 2: like even without Travis Hunter.

461
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys like Brenton Strange and brent and Strange, Washington

462
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 3: or not Parker Washington at a big day. Yeah, they're

463
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 3: really well coached. I mean, I think Shanahan's probably the

464
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 3: coach of the year. But there's five or six really

465
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 3: good candidates. Cohen being the other being in one of them.

466
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 3: People in Tampa Bay are lived. How could you keep

467
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: bowls and not, you know, keep Liam Cohen.

468
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: Sure, they're a really hard team to nitpick right now,

469
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 4: and I've been I'm not a doubter, but I have

470
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 4: never once said Jacksonville's best team in the AFC. They

471
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 4: have a pretty good case.

472
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Speaker 2: They might have the most impressive resume.

473
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point, pretty good case. I'm saying I'm

474
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: there yet.

475
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: But twelve and four, I don't think any of us

476
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: saw that coming. We could, we could have seen this

477
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: team scratching and claw on and get into the playoffs.

478
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: But but twelve and four and looking, he's playing out,

479
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 2: he's playing out standing. They've got some weapons, and yeah,

480
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen the toast, Arthur Motes's buddy, Liam Cohen, the

481
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 2: toast of the town.

482
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Speaker 4: There were at a relationship.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

484
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Speaker 2: They when Mots was a JMU, he was the quarterback

485
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: of UMass and so they were like the two darlings

486
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 2: of the conference. Like Cohen Cohen was like the offensive

487
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: player of the year, Motes was the defensive player of

488
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: the year. And so when they were done, they like

489
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: trained and prepared for the draft and all that stuff together.

490
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: Motes actually has a great store. Worry about how Liam

491
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 2: Cohen was supposed to get on a plane to go

492
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: visit like the Eagles, I think it was in Philadelphia,

493
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: and his like overslept his alarm or something like that,

494
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: and like came to Motes's hotel room like panicking, and

495
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: Mots was like, dude, I got you, and like drove

496
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: ninety miles an hour to get Liam Cohen into the

497
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: airport to make his to make his flight to you know,

498
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: to have his visit with the with the Philadelphia Eagles. So, yeah,

499
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of a local local Steelers Audio Network

500
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: family tie here. And speaking of the Buccaneers, who, of

501
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,719
Speaker 2: course Liam Cohen was with last year, they can't get

502
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 2: anything they have. I mean, like a Colts level type falloff. Yeah,

503
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: they are seven and nine now. The Bucks are Yeah,

504
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 2: after falling twenty to seventeen in the Battle of Florida

505
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: there in Miami to the Dolphins. Baker Mayfield is just

506
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: all over the.

507
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 4: Place right now.

508
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was clearly an offensive coordinator backward

509
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 3: situation there too.

510
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 4: They're exposed.

511
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: They've lost seven of their last eight games.

512
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 4: The Bucks of badness.

513
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 2: The only team, matt that they have that they've beat,

514
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: you know, over the last two months is the Cardinals.

515
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: Really by a field They beat the Cardinals by a

516
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: field goal at home. Other than that, lost the Patriots, lost,

517
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 2: the Bills, lost the Rams. Okay, those are three really

518
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: good teams, but lost to the Saints at the time.

519
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: Lost of the Saints, lost of the Falcons, lost of

520
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: the Panthers, lost to the Dolphins.

521
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 4: Have three division losses in the worst division in the

522
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Speaker 4: last month.

523
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not gonna go one more left. You got one

524
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: more left. Fortunately thanks to the Seahawks, the Bucks still

525
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: do have something to play for.

526
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: But man, they are cala.

527
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: I am too. They just I don't know how Tampa

528
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: listen again, it's such a week the week league, and

529
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 2: you got one opportunity in front of you to win

530
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 2: the division, but they are just trending in the worst

531
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Speaker 2: possible directions.

532
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Speaker 4: I mean, Steelers are one three out of four. They've

533
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Speaker 4: not lost seven.

534
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: Of eight, right, yes, exactly, h Matt. A team that's

535
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: feeling really good about themselves and out their hats and

536
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: their T shirts. Yesterday the New England Patriots. Oh, they

537
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 2: just absolutely demolished the Jets and then the Bills lose,

538
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: which clinches the division for them. Your guy Drake.

539
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: May, who's he's right back at the MVP race.

540
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: Who's more your guy, Drake May or Tyler Shuck because

541
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: they're both, they're both your guys.

542
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

543
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: Nineteen of twenty one, two fifty six, five touchdowns for Drake.

544
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Speaker 3: From the fourth quarter. It was over immediately. My two

545
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: big takeaways. I think May is right back in the

546
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: ring for MVP. The Jets could battle the Raiders now

547
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: for being the worst. They're a disgrace at this point.

548
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: I mean they trade away that they have more excuses though,

549
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: sure they're in a third quarterback and you know, trade

550
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: away quit traded away in sauce. Yeah.

551
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: Uh, speaking of the Panthers, Matt, they did have an

552
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: opportunity to clinch at home, but they end up falling

553
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: to the Seahawks. Not a shock or there. I mean,

554
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: that's just two different class of teams. But for Seattle

555
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: gives them the opportunity to have a chance at the

556
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 2: one seed in the in the NFC West Division title.

557
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: They'll play for that Saturday. Like we mentioned against the Niners.

558
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: For the Panthers, it's a bummer, but not all is lost.

559
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: You still have an opportunity to finish with a winning record,

560
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: win the division. You get the job done against Tampa

561
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: on Sunday.

562
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: It's not the.

563
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: Same as losing the Browns because you lost the Seattle.

564
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: And we said that, well, there are two different classes

565
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: of NFC potential playoff teams.

566
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: Seattle's go when Seattle could win the whole thing, where.

567
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: The Panthers would just be a year ahead of schedule,

568
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 2: happy to be there.

569
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was not starting to come around

570
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: on Bryce Young, but I was open to the that

571
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: he's a little better than I thought. But then he

572
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 3: played defense like this, and all of a sudden, it's like, man,

573
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how far this guy can.

574
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Speaker 2: Think hard hard to ignore the limitations. Yes, against an opponent,

575
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: lakes are a little higher. I'm with you on that, Matt.

576
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: The In the Battle of the Bad in Las Vegas,

577
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: the Giants steam rolled Yeahs. The Raiders Dart looked okay,

578
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: l A continued to look terrible. Pick it got in

579
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: at the little in a little bit at the end.

580
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: I bet you, yeah, Gino got hurt again. I think

581
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: Kenny will probably get the final start there in week eighteen, but.

582
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: Raiders lose it. I think they're all there. They have

583
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: a very high percent chance to get.

584
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: The first over to get the first overall US loss.

585
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean there's some funny business going on. We're

586
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: gonna shut down Andrew Thomas, our best offensive lineman. We

587
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna shut down Max Crosby, you know, like you

588
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: know Crosby taking videos.

589
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: A lot of him playing basketball.

590
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he really wanted to play, and you know,

591
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: I wonder if he like the man's a trade.

592
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 4: But this was the Battle of the Bad.

593
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is the Raiders are really in

594
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 3: line to get that first overall.

595
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 2: As we've been saying for probably the last six seven

596
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: eight weeks, Like there's some very poor teams in the NFL.

597
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: But the Raiders are they take the cake right now.

598
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: They are the emperor of the bad.

599
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: Short screams Mendoza, And then there ends up to the conversation,

600
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: which is an off season conversation, is would you add

601
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: would you take Jalen Moore if you even have if

602
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: you have dark hm hm. You know, like that's something

603
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: that's gonna be talked about a lot.

604
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting, interesting offseason for both of these teams. But

605
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: at least maybe the Giants have a young co well

606
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: they at least they're going to uh, you know, whether.

607
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: They they can make a move away from them or

608
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: what's the new staff thing they could do?

609
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 4: The ownership think, I don't know.

610
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: They certainly could, But the Giants get it done there

611
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: in Vegas and convincing fashion. A wild one, a low

612
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: scoring thriller at Orchard Park where the Bills score on

613
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: the very last play of the game, they decide to

614
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: go for two, they do not convert. The Eagles hold on.

615
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: Uh So Buffalo now will be a wild card. They've

616
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: got no chance to win the division as they fall

617
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: thirteen to twelve at home to Philly.

618
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: They're currently the seventh seed.

619
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: They're currently that, that's right, I mean.

620
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: They lock and move. But as it stands right now,

621
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: they're the seventh seed. Right now, they're in.

622
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: So that would put them in what new in they'd

623
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: go to New England for the first round of the

624
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: play Denver right now is one I believe. So this

625
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: is more of.

626
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 4: A tomorrow conversation.

627
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I wouldn't like that if I

628
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: was the Patriots. That's not who I want to see

629
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: after my great season and earning the number two seed.

630
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: Is Josh Allen and the Bills.

631
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 3: This was very weather yeah, influenced, to say the least.

632
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't a blizzard, but it was massive

633
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: wins and all that stuff. And it did not look

634
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: like a super Bowl matchup. No, they both look like

635
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 3: pretty flawed teams.

636
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: They didn't look like eleven win teams.

637
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: No, no, you know, but I do think both these

638
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: teams know how to win. They've got a lot of

639
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: recent playoff experience. Keep an eye on Josh Allen's foot

640
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: though it's a problem. He's limping around a lot.

641
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't he doesn't look took a couple of really

642
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: bad sacks characteristic of him.

643
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: I think it's injury related.

644
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: Missed that throw at the end?

645
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, oh again later in the week conversations.

646
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: But like, if you're the Bills, you know you're in.

647
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask you that you just sit

648
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: them down, you play the Jets.

649
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you might win without them. I didn't think

650
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: of that, but I mean.

651
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: And if you can't, I would have to look at

652
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: it and see, like what are their chances to move

653
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: up in the wild card pecking order? But is that

654
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: that much of a difference.

655
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: Much of a difference to you to you know, seven.

656
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: New England or Jacksonville or best Pittsburg Baltimore.

657
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: The worst you get seven, you're.

658
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Not gonna have a home game regardless. Now, the one

659
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: angle of that is last game ever for Orchard Park.

660
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: Is he gonna want to be in street clothes or.

661
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: Does he play a series?

662
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair question. It's a fair question to ask, though,

663
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: Like maybe you should give Josh Allen a breather here,

664
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: since Week.

665
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: Eight teams are gonna have interesting conversations like that, do

666
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: I really care about being.

667
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: The five seed versus six seeds?

668
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: You know, yes? You know yes?

669
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: And the NFC I might like I want to go

670
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: to the NFC. You South Champ, right, should people like

671
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: I want to go to Pittsburgh or Baltimore or Baltimore. Yeah,

672
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: but you don't know that answer. They're playing last and

673
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: Allen's got a foot. You know, I can't have that

674
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: guy compromise at all.

675
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: No, He's the one guy that you have to have

676
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: ready to go if you're Buffalo. And then finally, Matt

677
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: last night. This is another one that we mentioned briefly,

678
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: but I mean, I think was right up there with

679
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: the Rams Seahawks Thursday night, or from a couple of

680
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: weeks ago, is game of the year.

681
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: It started to feel better about both teams than I

682
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: did going in, and I feel better about totally games.

683
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: I knew both defenses were bad. The fact that the

684
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: Bears should go toe to toe with that offense that

685
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: never punts and even without Kittle is a machine right.

686
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: Now, unbelievable, fire, unbelievable. McCaffrey and Party were just outstanding there.

687
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: It's after a week lately.

688
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: They're you know, they first play the game, Party throws

689
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: a pick six to Chicago and it's like, all right,

690
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: no worries, we're good, We're fun. It drives him right

691
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: back down the field a couple of minutes later, and

692
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: over and over and ties the game.

693
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: Uh, while watching the game, but this is a first

694
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: game in history that the score went seven to seven

695
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: fourteen seven, fourteen, fourteen, twenty one, fourteen, twenty one, twenty one,

696
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: twenty eight, twenty one, twenty eight, twenty eight, thirty five,

697
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: twenty you know, like just seven seven seven seven seven

698
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: seven seven.

699
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: I mean that's what it felt like.

700
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: It did.

701
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: Guys, just gonna score again.

702
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. There was a lot

703
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: of times last night and you know this, like just

704
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: with working the games and travel, you know, being gone

705
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: Saturday night and she work the game Sunday, travel back

706
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: home all that. I've got two young kids. I'm just

707
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: typically exhausted. Yeah, like those we see them and those

708
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: Sunday night games. I'm looking for an excuse to go

709
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: to bed.

710
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: Sure you know what I mean.

711
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: And like that whole game, I'm like I can't go

712
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: to bed, Like this is great, Like I.

713
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: Gotta keep watching this batch out and watch it with Yeah, could.

714
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: One of these teams like pull away please? I could

715
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: go to bed.

716
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: No down on the wire.

717
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: And if you're Chicago man, Caleb Williams continue to kind

718
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: of answer the bell and keep you in that game.

719
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Luther Burnon might be blossoming into a star.

720
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: That's something I was talking my buds about it. I'm like,

721
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: Burden and Loveland outstanding.

722
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: We're going to be Loveland too, Yeah.

723
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: On this offense for years to come. And Williams too.

724
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't want to talk about the they

725
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: missed those two guys too.

726
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: If if I'm a Chicago fan, I'm still happy because

727
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're we're for real.

728
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: Oh, You're for real?

729
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: You know, like this this might not be the Super

730
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: Bowl year. The NFC's loaded and we're still young, but

731
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: we are for real. We're going to be in this

732
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: conversation now for a long time going forward. If you're

733
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: the Niners, It's like, Man, if we can get a

734
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: little bit of luck in the injury department here in

735
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs, we might we might find ourselves in an

736
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: NFC championship game.

737
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: Any I trust and maybe Warner comes back. Yeah, I

738
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: still might doubts about their defense, but same score every

739
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: time with the ball. What's the difference? I mean, they

740
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: did that without Kittle, you know, I mean it's craziness.

741
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I really think New England, Jacksonville, Chicago should

742
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: all be like, yeah, we're real.

743
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

744
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: One of my one of my buddies texted me last

745
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: night during the game and he was like, this reminds this, uh,

746
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: this Bears Niners game reminds me of watching like Patrick

747
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: Mahomes Texas Tech against Baker Mayfield's Oklahoma and like when

748
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: they would meet up in the Big Twelve and it

749
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: would just be toucheddown, touch down, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

750
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of who blinks and who has

751
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: the ball lass and who's able to survive at the

752
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: ball situation. Yeah, that was a lot of a lot

753
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: of fun last night and what I thought was one

754
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: of the more entertaining, one of the better games of

755
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: the year. But you said it perfectly. If I'm both

756
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: of those teams, I'm feeling good about about where we're

757
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: at right now. We have what yeah, one more segment

758
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: to guy was like thinking, I was like, wait, do

759
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 2: you have two more segments? One more segment? One more

760
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: segment to go on the other side, couple final Steelers,

761
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: I don't think yeah, because now that you mentioned it,

762
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: the Rams can't win the division.

763
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: So I'm sure they want to be the five.

764
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: They want to be the five seed and go to

765
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: Tampa or Carolina. But we'll look we'll look more at

766
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: that stuff tomorrow and as the week rolls along and

767
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: we get closer and closer to the conclusive Week eighteen

768
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: results in final week of the regular season coming up

769
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: this weekend after tonight's Monday Night Full Ball Action will

770
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: officially put Week seventeen in the books. One more segment

771
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: to go on the other side to close this thing down.

772
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 2: Wet Hueler Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers

773
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

774
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

775
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

776
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: You know, man, I'm laughing here. I'm kind of perusing

777
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: back through tweets that we got during the game and

778
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: after the game and all those things, and they are

779
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 2: it is funny, you know, a win versus loss.

780
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 4: It's so harsh.

781
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: It's it's it is, it is crazy, and I get it.

782
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm listen, I have I have not been

783
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: the typical cheery, happy, happy, go lucky West that I

784
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: that I that I have been here.

785
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: Today, last play the game, so many sins are forgotten.

786
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: You know the score on the last play of the game.

787
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: It's like you had you didn't have DK, you didn't

788
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: have Calvin Austin, you didn't have you didn't have TJ. Watt.

789
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: Nothing went your way. You were on the road in

790
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: a place where you've had some voodoo go against you.

791
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: The wind, the wind was crazy and I I do

792
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: and King are kind of touched on. This place was

793
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: like half empty when the game started, but by midway

794
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: through the first quarter it was probably seventy five eighty

795
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: percent full. And I gotta be honest, it was I mean,

796
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: I know we've talked about this before, and you worked

797
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: for the organization for a year. I'm not trying to

798
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: be nice to Browns fans in Cleveland here, but if

799
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: they ever actually did have like a legit contending winning team,

800
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: that would be maybe the hardest place to play in

801
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: the league.

802
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what they bang on that makes that

803
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: crazy noise and that kind of shuf it's not passionate.

804
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: And they handle the weather.

805
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: It's nut And like again, I I think I had

806
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: told you the exact moment, but I have it in

807
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: my notes here. Fourth quarter, you open up with an

808
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: eight minute drive, Bos missus that field goal, no points,

809
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: It's still ten to six. At that moment. When Bos

810
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: missed that field goal, at place came alive really, and

811
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 2: I mean it had been kind of building to that point, yeah,

812
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: but it was like, Okay, we're really gonna win this.

813
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

814
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: And then every commercial break, the whole stadium is channing

815
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett clap clap, cloup, clup clapp, and he's like

816
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: they keep showing him on the jumbo tron and he's like,

817
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: you know, like putting his hand up to his ear,

818
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: and the place is just going nuts. I mean, like,

819
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: if you if you're able to navigate that and get away,

820
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, that sucked, then you should have should

821
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: have been you know, it was way too close for

822
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: comfort and all those things. But the sins are forgiven.

823
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: As you say, Now it's the opposite. Now you gotta go. Now,

824
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: you got to go repent for your sins on Sunday

825
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: night against your biggest rival.

826
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: If they lose, how could they choke the season away?

827
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. But meanwhile, if they just

828
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: can you know, happen to throw a touchdown pass on

829
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: the last final player or two of the game.

830
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 4: Wow, what a great year, do you know? Yeah, look

831
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: out at the AFC, you know right.

832
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

833
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: John tweeted us and said, this was let's see here,

834
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: this was. Let me see exactly when this was because

835
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: the time stamp will matter. This was Saturday night. Uh.

836
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: Do you guys think that we should take a run

837
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: at Malik Willis this offseason since since the quarterback draft

838
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: class won't be as good as we originally thought.

839
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: Might it probably follows me on Twitter and there was

840
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 3: deep into the game, I wrote, I want Malik Willis

841
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh.

842
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: Did you did you? Did you put that out? Yeah?

843
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that it's cut in the chase.

844
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: We'll talk, we'll talk, we'll talk more about that.

845
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: A lot of people like, oh, you're just chasing the

846
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: fancy object. Look, I didn't just meet him today. I've

847
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: been following this subject for a while. More on that later, folks.

848
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: I was so sick and what would it have been

849
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: just hear of them in the in the winter and

850
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: spring of twenty one. You know how sick I was

851
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: about talking about Malik Willison. Kenny Pickett, That's all we

852
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: talked about every day. It was Malik Willison, Kenny Pickett,

853
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: That's all anybody talked about every day. And you know

854
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: what's funny is I'm really excited to like get to

855
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 2: the point that we start talking about these draft prospects. Yeah,

856
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: but by the time we get to April, I'll be

857
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: sick about talking about Fernando Mendoza and Dante More and

858
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs and Rvel Reeves. And it's it's very cyclical

859
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: in that regard. Uh. John Harbaugh just spoke a few

860
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: minutes ago said, Tyler Huntley's strong performance will not affect

861
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: who starts Sunday night in Pittsburgh. Quote. If Lamar is

862
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: ready to go, he's playing end quote. Jim Harboss said,

863
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: so not shocker there, But I think that was kind

864
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: of to bring it up, kind of yes, kind of noteworthy.

865
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: It was a strong performance.

866
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: It absolutely was, absolutely was.

867
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how they ever got away from him.

868
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: There was that stretch where he wasn't the Backup's custom

869
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: made to be Baltimore's backup. Why did he ever drift

870
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: away from that?

871
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: It reminds me like that's what you while you know,

872
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: that's what you want is your and I don't mean

873
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't mean this as like disrespect, but you want

874
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: your backup quarterback to be like great value brand of

875
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 2: your starting quarterback.

876
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah right right.

877
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: You you don't want to have a Lamar Jackson and

878
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: then a statue pocket passer, right, you know.

879
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: Like the Colt said Flacco and Anthony Richardson, I'm like this,

880
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: if one gets hurt, you gotta just take the game

881
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 3: plan and throw it apart exactly right.

882
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: It was kind of like when Dennis Dixon was in Pittsburgh,

883
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he was so much

884
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: different than the other pieces and what they were doing.

885
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: It's and some of that's very difficult. Like you could

886
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: be the Buffalo Bills and you can say, okay, we

887
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: want a great value you know, Walmart brand Lamar Jackson. Okay,

888
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: well good luck, you know, but Trubisky.

889
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: Was a highly talented second overall pick didn't work out

890
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: as much, you know, but.

891
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you uh, you know, if you've got an athletic,

892
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: mobile guy, you don't want some more traditional pocket passer

893
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: type as your backup.

894
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: And and vice versa very much in your camp. Yeah,

895
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: he seems like the perfect Lamar backup and he did

896
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: and showed it in this game.

897
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: Charlie Batch and Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah right, you know Gikowski,

898
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: similar body type, similar skill set. Obviously not as good

899
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: as the starter, but you don't have to completely throw

900
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: out the game plan and something new when you put

901
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: that guy in. A couple all right, A couple more

902
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: things here for you, Matt, Jalen success like you a

903
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: lot of times like the reference EPA success rate, some

904
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 2: of these things. So you ready for this. Jalen Moren

905
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: on his twelve carries fifty eight percent success rate.

906
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: That's really really good.

907
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: Pat Fryarmouth sixty percent success rate. Now that's a small

908
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: sample size because it was only three catches, but three

909
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: catches for sixty three yards. So when I look at it, yeah,

910
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: you're down DK metcalf and in a game like this,

911
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: that was the biggest possible absence, and he is your

912
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: biggest playmaker on an offense that is already kind of

913
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: thin in that department, especially at the wide receiver, especially

914
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: at the wide receiver position. But like, you've still got

915
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: playmakers that you need to use. I don't want to

916
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: be in here no matter what happens. Sunday night at

917
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: Akershurst Stadium against Baltimore. The one thing that will drive

918
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: me nuts is if we're in here Monday, low on

919
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: sleep and honked off and all that about a loss,

920
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: and we're saying again that they failed to utilize their

921
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: best players, Like, yeah, there's got to be more than

922
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: twelve carries for Jalen Warren and there's got to be

923
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: more than three catches for Pat Fryermuth, especially now in

924
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: light of Darnell Washington having a broken arm.

925
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you beat me to it on that.

926
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: Like, I understand playing Washington over any of the other

927
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: tight ends, totally totally wants to play against some all

928
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: that good stuff. But when you lost him, now Friar

929
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: mouse snaps spiked dramatically, and he was playing before, but

930
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: when Washington went out, he basically was a full time player,

931
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: and he has to be in this game.

932
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure. I mean, he's going to be a full

933
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: time player, but I need him featured more.

934
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: I do.

935
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: Carci even featured Jonny Smith, a Smidge Moore feature game.

936
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: Bowmore's receivers point that points in that game Carston Sweessinger

937
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 2: was like struggling to walk and get back in and out.

938
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: Of the huddle I'm glad you brought that up.

939
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: And I don't know how it How did it take

940
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: us to the very end of the two hour show

941
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: to mention that at.

942
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: The end of the first half, Like, why is he

943
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: on the field one?

944
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: Why are the Browns leaving him out.

945
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 4: Right like that linebacker? Coach, that's the.

946
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: Best rookie linebacker in football. Why are you risking something happening?

947
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: He could barely get back to the huddle in certain plays.

948
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: Why aren't you taking Pat Fryarmouth and going right up

949
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: to seem and attacking him. Both of those things drove

950
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: me nuts from the Steelers point and the Browns point.

951
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly why.

952
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 3: And then he started the second half and we maybe

953
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: shot it up or taped it up he did something. Yeah,

954
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: but still it's like this guy's still playing. Good for him,

955
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: but attack the heck out of him. There was one

956
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: play that I think it was his coverage possibility where

957
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: that Steelers had successful play. Yeah, and it wasn't a

958
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: ton of time at the end of the second half,

959
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: but he was obviously massively compromised.

960
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: He was. He totally was.

961
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: And we saw what could do late in the game too.

962
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: We know what he can we know what I mean.

963
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 4: It's one of those things. Yeah, he's not a mystery.

964
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: He's not a mystery. The only mystery is why his

965
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: role has been so limited except for in very limited spots. Yeah,

966
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: like in Cincinnati and a couple times.

967
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: Where here and there.

968
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then uh oh, I guess too. While sticking

969
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: on Carsion Sweessenger, it reminded me of this one thing

970
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: we should probably mention today in honor of our buddy

971
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: Dale Lawley. Guys are allowed to get better. Yeah, Devin

972
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: Bush is a pretty good, pretty good, pretty good player.

973
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: He's not pretty good player. He played pretty well yesterday.

974
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: Hated to see that, but he played pretty well.

975
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's not like, oh he's okay, he's

976
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: a borderline starter.

977
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: No, like he's the answer next to the questions.

978
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: That's a really good tandem. Yeah, there could be one

979
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: of the better tandem. If Sweessinger takes that sophomore step

980
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: forward linebacker, they could they could be one of the

981
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: better tandems.

982
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: Contractation. Yeah, it's a good that's good.

983
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

984
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: He's going to be a starter from now on, Yes, yes, yes, player.

985
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: Good for him. You know, I don't think the Steelers

986
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 4: did him wrong or anything. I mean, he wasn't good.

987
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Here correct, correct? Uh, here you go, Matt kind of

988
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: final one to drive this home. Uh. This is from

989
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: Jerry Dulac DK Metcalf and the Steelers win in Baltimore

990
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. DK metcalf seven catches one

991
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight yards, including fifty two yard reception

992
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: forty one yard reception in each half in the win

993
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: against the Browns twenty three to nine. Earlier in the

994
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: season October twelfth. Was that day he had three separate

995
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: catches of twenty five or more yards, one that went

996
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: for a touchdown. Yeah, if you thought having him, not

997
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: having him in Cleveland was harmful, guess what that's gonna

998
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: be the case once again here against Baltimore. You've got

999
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: to find a way to overcome. And I think again

1000
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: getting back to the mic pursuit of this sliver of

1001
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: optimism as it relates for Sunday, is now the film's

1002
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: out there and how teams are going to defend.

1003
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: You, and there's not a lot.

1004
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: Of mystery and in the game planning for this, but

1005
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: you have got to find ways to get the ball

1006
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: in the hands of your playmakers. You need more moveth.

1007
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: You need more Warren john Usmith too, like you mentioned,

1008
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: because you can. You can't just run it back and

1009
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: think that you're kind of you know, tree of veteran

1010
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: wide receivers and mvs stealing and Scottie Miller and the

1011
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: young kind of unproven still trying to hop on the

1012
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 2: moving train guy and Roman Wilson. You can't. You know,

1013
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: those dogs are not going to change their spots by

1014
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: by by Sunday night.

1015
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: You may make more plays for you, they may have

1016
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: better games, but you can't count on them.

1017
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: You need to change your spots from a schematic and

1018
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: play calling perspective.

1019
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 4: More so, learn some lessons. Hopefully that's clearly that's what

1020
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: I'm hoping now.

1021
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 3: I don't need to harp on this, but Jerry put

1022
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: out those stats against division rivals and Metcalf did a

1023
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 3: stupid thing interacting with a fan.

1024
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nobody's fault other than metcalfs this. He's not

1025
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, be clear about.

1026
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 4: That exactly, you know, right, like he's hurting the team?

1027
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: Yes? And boy did that really? It could have that

1028
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: suspension could have gone one of two ways where you

1029
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: take care of business against a bad Browns team, and

1030
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: it's an afterthought. No one even really thinks about it.

1031
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: Five years from now and even brings it up, or

1032
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 4: it ends up.

1033
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: These last two games go south and it becomes a

1034
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: major catalyst moment in that that's.

1035
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 4: A yeah, yes, and so far you didn't get over

1036
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 4: the first hurdle.

1037
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: No you did not. Now you've got one more opportunity

1038
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: to do so, Matt, good conversation today. Enjoyed it as

1039
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: always as much as I wasn't looking forward to it.

1040
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: You did make it a little, uh, a little more palatable.

1041
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: Maybe that should have been a new thing. Maybe every

1042
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: Monday that the Steelers lost a game, we should have

1043
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: came in here wearing the same outfits, so we could

1044
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: have we could have had a little chuckle and lightened

1045
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: the mood. But thanks to teamwork makes the dream work baby.

1046
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: Thanks to Rob King for joining us. Thanks to Nathan

1047
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: for producing TV on the video side of things, mister

1048
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: TV for keeping us handsome on YouTube as always, how

1049
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: about TV yesterday down there on the sidelines in Cleveland,

1050
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: our dude was I was sending you pictures. I was

1051
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: scoping scoping pictures out from him for me up in

1052
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: the booth. I'm all dry, and I mean the windows

1053
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: are open, so it's a little chilly, but I'm not

1054
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: feeling the wind in the ring. TV is down there

1055
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: fighting for his life elements, and I'm sending pictures. I'm

1056
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 2: like zooming in all the way on my camera and

1057
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: taking pictures of him and sending it to him and Matt.

1058
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 2: Big thanks to TV for today, but also for you know,

1059
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: big tip of the cap for him for battling the

1060
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: elements yesterday there at Huntington bank Field. We'll be back

1061
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: tomorrow more on you know, some final some some Tuesday

1062
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: rewatch Tuesday rewind thoughts and more on Steelers and Ravens.

1063
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: As we look ahead through the week, we'll also take

1064
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: a look at some playoff scenarios and draft scenarios and

1065
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: some things like that. Is all of that is coming

1066
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: more and more into focus. But that will do it

1067
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: for us for today. For Matt Williamson, I'm what shooler.

1068
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: Take care. Everybody will talk to you tomorrow. You know

1069
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 2: where to find us. As always, it's on your twenty

1070
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: four to seven home of the Black and Gold. It's

1071
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