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Speaker 2: energy assessments. Today, I am thrilled to be joined by

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Carey, the NFL Director of Broadcasting. As the NFL

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Speaker 2: schedule has been released, I know something that you and

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Speaker 2: many of the league office have been working tirelessly on

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Speaker 2: for some time before we get into the Giants schedule.

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Speaker 2: Just how much time goes into putting together an NFL

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Speaker 2: schedule for a season, all thirty two teams. It must

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Speaker 3: It is literally like I go, first of all, thanks

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Speaker 3: for having met on This is great. We're excited to

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Speaker 3: be done, but it's it's a it's a long process. Realistically,

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Speaker 3: we start almost the day after the regular season ends.

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Speaker 3: That's where we have kind of the final puzzle pieces

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Speaker 3: of the standing space matchup.

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Speaker 4: The matchups and everything else for the following year.

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Speaker 3: And we start tinkering at that point and really looking

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Speaker 3: at different combinations, but we have to wait until we

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Speaker 3: get through Super Bowl because that's at least when we

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Speaker 3: know who our kickoff game will be this year will

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Speaker 3: be the Chiefs hosting, So you know, that's that's when

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Speaker 3: I think we're all a little bit tired here, but

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Speaker 3: excited to be done and think that we came up

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And when we look at.

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Speaker 2: The Giants schedule, the Giant in recent years, but we're

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Speaker 2: back on the Giants Cowboys Week one? What made this

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Speaker 2: year the right time to reignite that?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a good question.

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Speaker 3: It felt like a bit of a tradition for a

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Speaker 3: which which is something that we love to see at

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Speaker 3: the league office, and it makes our jobs a lot

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Speaker 3: easier when we schedule. But the Giants last year were

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Speaker 4: This year. We really liked it there.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a great opening game for NBC

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Speaker 2: It's interesting too, because when you are making these schedules

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Speaker 2: What goes into those conversations when you guys are putting

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Speaker 2: It just it felt right for this year absolutely, and

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Speaker 4: The one o'clock windows are something that we struggled a bit.

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Speaker 3: And this one was one that fell that we felt

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the one o'clock windows that you know are

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Speaker 1: You know, the storylines, the narratives.

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Speaker 2: What we saw from the Giants last year is that

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Speaker 4: We're excited about the Giants and we're excited about the whole.

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Speaker 4: I think the NFC East will be run.

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Speaker 2: At their the Christmas Day you mentioned the rivalry games, right,

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Speaker 4: This spicy matchup day.

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Speaker 3: We actually really liked this schedule because of the way

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, one of the things that sticks out

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Speaker 1: The schedule.

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Speaker 2: The beginning of this schedule, seven times on the road

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Speaker 1: That early on. What went into this decision? How do

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, And I like the perspective that you're giving

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Speaker 1: But it's not that case at all.

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Speaker 2: You are working very closely with all of these clubs

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Speaker 2: Spades absolutely, and you know, you speak about it to

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Speaker 2: I think too that it's got to be so fascinating

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Speaker 4: To be a big one, You know what.

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Speaker 3: Who is Green Bay? With Jordan Love you don't have

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I cannot wait Week one. It's gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 2: a couple months away, but we are looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Carey, Thank you so much for taking the time

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Speaker 2: breaking this all down for us. This is a fascinating.

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Speaker 1: World of building an NFL schedule. You guys have done

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