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Speaker 1: Today is our NFL Week fourteen Sunday Recap episode. I

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Speaker 1: am Chad Millman. I am joined in misery by my bff,

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Speaker 1: my companion Mike and Padre, and my co host Professional

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Speaker 1: Better Simon Hunter. Simon. We are trying to watch the

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Speaker 1: end of this Chiefs Bills game. We have the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: minus one head. Oh so I am in.

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Speaker 2: Are we doing, Chad.

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Speaker 1: Question for you, Simon, win or lose right now? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Cadarius Tony is Caadarius Tony on the roster next week

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't remember last year, he was pretty

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Speaker 2: important for them in the Super Bowl. But I don't know, Chad,

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Speaker 1: restrictions apply. All right. We had Carolina plus six. We

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Speaker 1: had the Chicago Bears plus three and a half. We

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Speaker 1: had the La Rams plus seven and a half. We

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Speaker 1: had Kansas City minus one and a half. Because we

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Speaker 1: felt so good if Kansas City hit the ball at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game and they were down. We

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Speaker 1: were going to win that bet. Tonight we have Dallas

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Speaker 1: minus three and a half against the Eagles in Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night football. Simon Games, we passed on biggest debate we

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Speaker 1: had today, Jets and the Rams. You love the Jets

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Speaker 1: you have all week. Credit to you. You convinced me

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Speaker 1: to bet it, but we did not put it in

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Speaker 1: the contest. I love the Rams all week. We started

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Speaker 1: feeling anxious about this one kickoff because the line hadn't

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Speaker 1: you're my guy, Simon, if you if you feel strongly,

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Speaker 1: we can trade it out. We were definitely worried. In

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Speaker 1: bad weather today the Jets would not score at all,

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Speaker 1: so we ultimately kept the Rams. Turns out it didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're terrible right now. We're in a bad

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Speaker 2: all the time how hard these contests are. And this

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Speaker 2: is why it is. Where it's like you have games

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Speaker 2: you like, all these different games, you have to get

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Speaker 2: it down to the five and yeah, the the Jets one.

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Speaker 2: I just like I said to you this morning, it's

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Speaker 2: just a game we always take where when everyone's giving

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Speaker 2: that Chiefs one's gonna stink for a little while, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's a game. Like I said you before we went

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Speaker 2: And the bounces did not go away at all in

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Speaker 1: By the way, the total was thirty three and a half.

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Speaker 1: I bet the under. Did you bet the under two

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Speaker 2: It is probably my biggest bet of the week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's perfect way to summon up. They're just

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Speaker 2: they're terrible in so many ways, but all starts with

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Speaker 2: It was seven to three, it's right there. And then

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Speaker 2: and yeah, they just can never recover from that. So tough,

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Speaker 2: Chet We like ben bad quarterbacks and they bite us

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Speaker 1: of that exact series that you were talking about, Miles Sanders.

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Speaker 2: You just you get in these repeat modes if you

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Speaker 2: number one pick, it really does not make sense. There's

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Speaker 2: not a single thing that he does really well, and

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Speaker 2: you're really seen it this year where he has yet

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Speaker 2: an absolute trainer of the season for Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Seventy six first round quarterbacks of the Super Bowl era

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young. It's current yards per attempt would be the

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Speaker 1: second worst for a full year since Donovan McNabb nineteen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true at this year for Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Bears were at plus five, we betted at plus three

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Speaker 1: round robin. This game, like I got a little nervous

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Speaker 1: because I thought it was too much of a public dog.

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Speaker 1: It turns out none of it mattered, and I got

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Speaker 1: the Bears were losing, they played like a real football team.

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore runs a great route. Justin Fields hits him perfectly.

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Speaker 1: The Bears take the lead in nineteen thirteen. Forget about

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Speaker 1: the fact that on the ensuing point after attempt they

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Speaker 1: bad mistakes. Two hundred and twenty three yards passing touchdown,

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Speaker 1: fifty six yards rushing touchdown. Go Bears. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: just it just sucks where it's like we play this spot,

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Speaker 2: we know it's a long term winner. It just didn't

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Speaker 2: get there. And you know, I know a couple of

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Speaker 2: people that they keep back in Mahomes and they're just

435
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Speaker 2: getting destroydering out a lot of professionals. Like it's just

436
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Speaker 2: I keep saying, we got to adjust. This isn't the

437
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,719
Speaker 2: same old team, but it's hard where it's like they

438
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: were down fourteen today, tren I still wasn't that worried.

439
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 2: And that's what's tough this team where it's like the

440
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Speaker 2: Mahomes factor of it. It's like, I know we need

441
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Speaker 2: to adjust, but at the same time, they're always in it.

442
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: Like it's just that there's just such a good team.

443
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Speaker 2: They're so well coached. So it's a tough one. I'm

444
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: still not going to overreact to this loss for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Another game that we're going to have to talk about

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Speaker 1: in the week fifteen lines because it is a massive,

447
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Speaker 1: massive number. All right, just an Fyi Evan is reporting

448
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Speaker 1: from the Action Network News desk. Justin Herbert fractured right

449
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Speaker 1: index Finger. Also in the postgame report, Patrick Mahomes is

450
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Speaker 1: apparently very upset because he thought Kadarius Tony was on side.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Patrick, we're with your brother. We all

452
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Speaker 1: believe he was on sides. As a reminder to catch

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Speaker 1: every episode of The Favorites live on YouTube. For those

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Speaker 1: enjoying on YouTube, don't forget to give us a like

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Speaker 1: to recap Fox Old Dallas minus three and a half.

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Speaker 1: We got that coming up tonight, Big Balls Carolina plus

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Speaker 1: four and a half. Turns out it was just a

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Speaker 1: kick in the dick folks exec decision Chicago plus three

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Speaker 1: and a half? Who bears Simon says, Kansas City minus

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Speaker 1: two and a half? Another, Ah, that is fucking brutal.

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Speaker 1: All right, survivor you have green Bay? Correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but sad news the contest everyone knows. I won't

464
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Speaker 2: say the name of it, but basically, on Thanksgiving I

465
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: had to use Green Bay like we had no choice,

466
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: and we got really lucky. And this week we decided

467
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Speaker 2: to go with Pittsburgh and we got knocked out. So

468
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Speaker 2: I will not be winning nine million dollars. I'm still

469
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: in another contest. That's tax free. But unfortunately it's a

470
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: lot of professionals and there's like one hundred people left somehow,

471
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: and I hate it. I absolutely hate it. So the

472
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: goal now is to survive that one. I'll keep it

473
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Speaker 2: going if green Bay does it, but if green Bay loses,

474
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Speaker 2: it's over. I got nothing left people, I got somehow.

475
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: I got one contest left here in fourteen fucking Pittsburgh

476
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Speaker 2: Steelers man and that whatever that was that snappers head

477
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Speaker 2: looking up again, these fucking refs, Chad. I'm so mad

478
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: about because like that, I could taste the nine million,

479
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: Like I think there's twenty people left in that contest,

480
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: and it's like God, that would have been amazing to

481
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: go there and win that money. So yeah, that's tough,

482
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: but hopefully green Bay comes through so we can keep

483
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Speaker 2: doing our survivor picks for the people.

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Speaker 1: Something after taxes like four and a half mil. And

485
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: these days, these days, you can't even you can't even

486
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Speaker 1: buy a nice house for four and a half million dollars.

487
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: That's true.

488
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: You know it's four and a half million. Trust me,

489
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't go as far as as it used to. Okay,

490
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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, Uh Carolina, Ash Chicago Rams, Jets, Giants.

491
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Speaker 1: Those were our money line round robin. So we got

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Speaker 1: the Bears and we got the Rams, and we got

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Speaker 1: the Bears and the Jets, and we got a shot

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Speaker 1: with the Giants on Monday Night. Although I'm hoping it

495
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Speaker 1: doesn't work out for us, because I want you to

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Speaker 1: stay alive.

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Speaker 2: In your kind, to be over, to be honest with

498
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: the survivor is killing me. The stressing about it. It's

499
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Speaker 2: such a waste of energy.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to keep going because I like, I like

501
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Speaker 1: the idea of you being in a tax freak Sunday

502
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Speaker 1: Night football pick. Look, we're on the Cowboys that we've

503
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Speaker 1: been on it all week. Uh Monday Night Football, Uh

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00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: Giants plus six and a half. I feel like I

505
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: I pushed you into that one. So you can tell

506
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Speaker 1: me if you're if you want to renounce your participation

507
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Speaker 1: in that.

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Speaker 2: Roger, I liked it with you. I liked it Sunday Night.

509
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 2: My fear is just just how well Jordan Love is playing.

510
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: Where it's like, you know, we might be just stepping

511
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: in front of it. You know these teams sometimes they

512
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Speaker 2: go on these steam rolls. It's just like Detroit was

513
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Speaker 2: early in the year. Remember, we kept trying to jump

514
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Speaker 2: in front of Detroit because we knew Detroit wasn't as

515
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: good as they were playing, and we just kept getting caught.

516
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: And that's the same thing here with green Bay. It's like,

517
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: we know Green Bay isn't a top three team the NFC,

518
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 2: but they're being prices one right now just because they've

519
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: been playing so well. So yeah, if people want to

520
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: know where the professionals are at, they love the six

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Speaker 2: and a half six on the Giants, But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm just gonna ride to survive your I have

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Speaker 2: a little bit on the Giants, but yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: Chad knows. I just need green Bay to win.

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Speaker 1: Packers are without Christian wants to on offense, koair Walker,

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Speaker 1: Jaire Alexander on defense. Simon, can you also Aaron Jones

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Speaker 1: is questionable? Simon? Can you name the fastest growing ticketing

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Speaker 1: app in the United States?

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Speaker 2: Game Time?

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Speaker 1: at this. You can go see the New York Football

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I picked out some early week fifteen spots. Look the

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Speaker 1: Steelers on the road at Indy plus three Classic Raw

548
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Ross spot. The key factor here TJ Watt in the

549
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: concussion protocol. So if he's not playing, we're not We're

550
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: not betting. If he is, we probably got to make

551
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Speaker 1: a decision.

552
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: Is there going to be Mitch Trubisky.

553
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: Though it's going to be Mitch Trubisky, you don't.

554
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Want to experience back in Mitch as someone that that

555
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: had needed needed the Steelers for their life. On Thursday.

556
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: You don't want to ride to Mitch train again. Chad

557
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 2: stay away, listen.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're saying. I thought of that

559
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: when I wrote this down in our notes. But we're

560
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: talking about a not very good Indie team. I think

561
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: they were exposed today. They should not be favorites.

562
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: I think they've been very lucky.

563
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: They've been very lucky. I thought Raybound did a great job.

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00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: You know, he had the Bengals this week, and he

565
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: did a great job of explaining what Indy had done

566
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Speaker 1: in their four games and who they had beaten in

567
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: their in their four game winning streak, and it was

568
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: incredibly lucky. And today they saw the truth. And they

569
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: are not a very good football team when Gardner Munshi

570
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: was their quarterback, especially against the defense that can cause

571
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Speaker 1: them a little bit of trouble, which the Bengals were

572
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Speaker 1: able to do to day with Trey Hendrickson. So if

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Speaker 1: t J wats playing, I'm less uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it. Tennessee plus three and a half

576
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: at home versus Houston.

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Speaker 2: It's minus one and a half.

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Speaker 1: Brother, Well, I was going to say, I was just

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Speaker 1: going to check the lines right now. I had a

580
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: feeling this would move based on the rout. Yeah, missed it.

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Speaker 2: Missed it, it's still to take it, though we might

582
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Speaker 2: begin Davis Mills.

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Speaker 1: It's true, right, all right?

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Speaker 2: I mean we saw how different this team's whole identity

585
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: change from one quarterback to the next. The Davis Mills

586
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: is bad even when he came in. I know the

587
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: Jets defense obviously is incredible, but I don't hate it.

588
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: I don't hate the idea of Chad. So I'd grabbed

589
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: the one and a half just in case this number

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00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: keeps going up. I could see it easily get up

591
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: to minus three if CJ does miss time.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the again? If you have

593
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: any games that you love, we'll get to it. But

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Speaker 1: these are the games that I pinpointed. Lion's currently minus

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Speaker 1: four against the Broncos at home feels like a get

596
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: right spot.

597
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: I know, but what should we do here? Like we

598
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: just that's the thing. They're broken, right, That's what sucks.

599
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: It's like I agree with people that it feels like

600
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: Denver got very lucky today and they keep getting this

601
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: turnover luck, which has been insane this run they've had.

602
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: But they're going up against a team that wants to

603
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: turn the ball over right now, and golf and their

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00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: coach Campbell is kind of losing his mind here on

605
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: these fourth downs. He's like the stubborn gambler that's like, no,

606
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep hitting on sixteen and fifteen, like this

607
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: is what I do. I know it's gonna win. It's like, no, dude,

608
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: you keep losing like you're winning early on because you're

609
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: getting lucky. Now it's just getting irrational, Like I think

610
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: they're on their own thirty five or forty against the Bears.

611
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 2: They went for it. And that's what I love too

612
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: about the Bears. They started doing fuck you right back.

613
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: They're like fourth and thirteen, we'll go for it, like

614
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: screw you, guys. If this is the kind of game

615
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: you want, we'll play this game. And it works. So yeah,

616
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you, like my gut instincts like Detroit,

617
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: like this is everyone in the public's going to be

618
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: on Denver. But now I'll probably throw a it on Denver.

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Speaker 2: At this plus four and a half, I just this

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00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: number has to come down, right. I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm missing it, but this film.

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00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: I think it will come Well. Look it was at

623
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Speaker 1: four and a half before the end of the Denver game.

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00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: And now it's at.

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Speaker 2: Four, Okay, and then that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the notes that I wrote were exactly what you

627
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Speaker 1: just said. Is Detroit in trouble, the Broncos continuing to

628
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: get lucky and doing just enough of the right things

629
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Speaker 1: in the spots, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

631
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Speaker 1: Also, they keep playing like justin Herbert going out with

632
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: a fractured index finger and they're playing easton stick there.

633
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: I think they're zero for three before that on fourth

634
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: downs the Chargers like it's just it just keeps breaking

635
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: ever his way, which again, like you said, it's it's

636
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: partially good coaching, but they're getting a lot of luck.

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Speaker 1: Cleve Whend minus three at home against the Bears.

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00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: Joe je Flaku battered FLACKU, Look, this line was a

639
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Speaker 3: two and a half.

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Speaker 1: I know that the books were begging us to take

641
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Betters did. It's a three, really

642
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: good run defense, improving pass rush in the Bears, a stay,

643
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: a good rush offense, a quarterback who found his rhythm

644
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: today against a not very good secondary.

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00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I mean it probably didn't mean much

646
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: to a lot of the fans, but I again, I

647
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: had more, way, more money on Cleveland, but I tried

648
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: to hit this middle. The Jaguars got to plus three

649
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Speaker 2: and a half for like two three days and it

650
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: lined up perfectly, And for some reason, Duke Peterson went

651
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: for two and I did not get the middle. Just again,

652
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: these coaches do the most random shit, like why would

653
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Speaker 2: you not want to get to three? Like you're you're, you're.

654
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Speaker 2: If you hit the field goal, you get to go

655
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: to overtime against Joe Flacco, who I think at that

656
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: point already had two turnovers. Yeah. Very A lot of

657
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: his coaching is very bizarre. This line is already up

658
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 2: to the minus three for Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Uh. You know. First first reaction is what Chad just said,

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00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: I like back in Cleveland at home. I like back

662
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: in this defense at home. That's what I did today.

663
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: Like I had plenty of people reach out for like

664
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Speaker 2: are you scared that it's Lawrence now playing against Joe Flack?

665
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: When I said, well, it feels like the rushing I'm back.

666
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: I thought the defense would play better. You know, the

667
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: defense didn't play that great overall. I guess thet Jaguars right,

668
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: but still they made big stops and key spots and

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00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: you know, Joe Flack as much as I want to

670
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 2: beat him up, Like, you know, he made some big

671
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: throws in that game. So yeah. The thing is stuff

672
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: about this line is I know, if it gets to

673
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: four or three and a half, I kind of want

674
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Speaker 2: to take the Bears, but if three, I guess I

675
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: still lean towards taking the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, to me, it's a wait, like I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: I think the money is going to keep coming on

678
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland and because of that defense, and I'm just going

679
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: to take the Bears when I can get the hook

680
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: is really.

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Speaker 2: Really, I feel like everyone's gonna point on justin. Justin

682
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: feel is the way sexier bet than back in Joe

683
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Flack was a favorite. I promise you that much.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Titans are now at minus two thanks.

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Speaker 1: Two more games, two more games, two quick games, and

686
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Speaker 1: then I want to make.

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Speaker 2: Sure you guys to play in the chat. If you

688
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: see anything about CJ, you can definitely throw in the chat.

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00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's not going to play or not,

690
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: but that that's an indicator that the pros think he's

691
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: not going to play.

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00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: Two more games that I want to discuss the Cardinals. No,

693
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: not the Cardinals. The Commanders plus six and a half

694
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: against the Rams. That felt a little juicy, like the

695
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Rams might be overvalued there, but we just got uh

696
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: we just took debate on the Commander's plus six a

697
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: week ago at home against the Dolphins. So to pass,

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00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna tell me you want to take

699
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots, by the way, Oh my god, Patriots Chiefs

700
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: was plus ten before the end of the Bills Chiefs game.

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Speaker 1: Now plus seven and a half to pass for me? No,

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00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: thank you.

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00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean you can still get plus nine and a

704
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: half on bet three six five if you so help choose. Yeah,

705
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: way too many points for a chief You're right, so

706
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: i'd grab that. But like you, I just said, we're

707
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: not going to get this contest, Like this is just

708
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: if I'm lucky, I'll be able to get a couple

709
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: of thousand down here at the nine and a half.

710
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: But this is this is kind of a dead number.

711
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 2: It's gonna be what Chad you said, this will drop

712
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: to seven seven and a half. Still don't hate it

713
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: at that number, but yeah, it's just just probably a

714
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: safer bet for me just to tick the under in

715
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 2: this game. Like both defenses are really good. That feels

716
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: like the safer play here cold December game of Fox Bro.

717
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: I don't mind taking the under in that spot either.

718
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: Who is shocked you didn't bring up this Bucks green

719
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: Bay game Bucks plus three and a half in green

720
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: Bay before green Bay plays? You know, to me, I'll

721
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: grab the three and a half just in case what

722
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: chat talked about, like if this if the pros are

723
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: right and this is a fallout spot for green Bay

724
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 2: and they lose, this game will definitely drop down. I mean,

725
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: these the bucks in Green Bay are not that far off.

726
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: I know that sounds crazy to everyone, but I'm telling you,

727
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: if I fight this in the model, I know this

728
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: is going to come back two and a half two

729
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: for the number. So the number the values definitely right

730
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: now is on the Buccaneers. We said it though, what

731
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: the the Packers are just in right now? It's just

732
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: if they beat the Giants, I'm gonna look like a

733
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: fool because it's number pile'll go up the four to

734
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: four and a half. But I'm gonna grab it just

735
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: in case they finally have a closed game against the Giants.

736
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: That was definitely when I jumped out. You know, I

737
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: can't I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but.

738
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: Then don't.

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00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: No, we got to talk about the Bills. They're minus

740
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: two against the Cowboys.

741
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw it.

742
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Like we're supposed to take that too, brother, I know,

743
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

744
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: We got to decide right now. The Bills offense has

745
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: been playing better and better, right They played really well

746
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: against the Eagles. The defense gave it up. They played

747
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: better against the Chiefs. The defense almost gave it up,

748
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: by the way. So like, if we want to go

749
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: into where we're betting on Josh Allen, who will will

750
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: definitely throw a pick at the wrong time to give

751
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: the other team to get it to to give you

752
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: a team a chance to stay in it and that

753
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: defense to be winning at the end of the game,

754
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott to make bad play calling decisions about clock management,

755
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: and then for that defense to give it up so

756
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: the other team can tie the game. Then we can

757
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: bet on the Bills if we are willing to accept

758
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: that scenario.

759
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: No, I'm right there with you. It's gonna suck, but

760
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: it's just I know that's who the pros are going

761
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: to back, regardless of what the Cowboys do here. You know,

762
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: obviously we hope the Cowboys win, but even if they do,

763
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: when I just I can't see this number dropping. It

764
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: just it just feels like the public will be on

765
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the pros will be on the bills.

766
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: So just interesting that it's minus two, because that's such

767
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: attempting number for a number for people back the bill.

768
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: It's a bait number. That is a fat, juicy worm

769
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: of a number, and the books are looking at us

770
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: like we are little brain fish.

771
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: I know, we got to get out of here real quick. Though.

772
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: What do you think of that? Ravens minus three again?

773
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: The Jaguar Sunday night.

774
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting. I'm anxious about Lamar

775
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: as a favorite.

776
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm grabbing it. Yeah, I just I have to just

777
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: the Trevor Lawrence. He had no mobility and that really

778
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 2: hampered him. And I feel like he got a little

779
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: lucky against that Cleveland's defense and the Ravens defense. That's

780
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: such a bounce back spot for them after going to

781
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: lit up by Stafford. You know that, you know, I

782
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: got it. I got it back at the three because

783
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: how does this not go up?

784
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: I just I'm seeing it well. By the way, I'm

785
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: seeing it at three and a half almost everywhere.

786
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: So it's still three. I bet three sixty five our friends.

787
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, Chad's right, I'll probably get off this call

788
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: and I'll be gone. But that's just when it jumps

789
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: out to grab right now.

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00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna think about the Steelers as

791
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: dogs if they have t J. Watt, Tennessee has already

792
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: moved beyond a place that makes us comfortable. Baltimore minus three.

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00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna go grab as soon as we get off

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00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: this show. Slim pickens for early best this week. But

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