Speaker 1: Deir dra Hall is here a soap opera legend is
Speaker 1: amongst us five thousand episodes. Actress Deir Drahal is best
Speaker 1: known for her portrayal of Marlena Evans on NBC's daytime
Speaker 1: drama Days of Our Lives, whom she has played for
Speaker 1: over forty five years. She is officially the longest running
Speaker 1: soap actress ever, just passing the five thousand episode mark.
Speaker 1: Absolutely incredible, possibly unprecedented. This is just be with Deirdre Hall.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. So how many how many soaps
Speaker 1: are there left?
Speaker 2: Four?
Speaker 1: Four? Wow? So when when soaps started leaving television? Were
Speaker 1: you nervous?
Speaker 2: I think that what ended up happening was Greg Ming,
Speaker 2: who was our executive producer, saw the trend it's getting
Speaker 2: more expensive to shoot them and blah blah blah, revenue
Speaker 2: might not be there. And so he figured out a
Speaker 2: way to start wrong word, just cutting cost and you know,
Speaker 2: cut out a rehearsal, cut out of this, cut out
Speaker 2: of that, do more shows in a day, you know,
Speaker 2: take a week off once a month. So that he
Speaker 2: really cracked the code on how to do it on
Speaker 2: a budget. I am persuaded as why we lasted as
Speaker 2: long as we have because because the other shows can't
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Well. Oh so he has a gift for it that
Speaker 1: other shows don't have, Like he just was a masterminded.
Speaker 2: That's early on he figured out and we, you know,
Speaker 2: we we began making changes that had been made to
Speaker 2: make us come in under budget.
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay, So I'm going I might go all
Speaker 1: over the place because I'm just I'm just going with
Speaker 1: what's interesting to me. And when I've jumped off the
Speaker 1: page and you, so, do you what do you think
Speaker 1: of Housewives? Like? Do you feel like that's like a
Speaker 1: real a reality show, soap opera? Does it do you?
Speaker 1: Does it remind you of what your characters doing?
Speaker 2: No, don't. I don't watch any of those shows.
Speaker 1: You don't watch You don't even know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: My problem with those shows is that they're relying on
Speaker 2: women fighting. And I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1: I got it, agreed, I get it. It's I know.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I watch a lot of really
Speaker 1: high profile people talk about it and watch it, and
Speaker 1: I think and then they do feel a little guilty
Speaker 1: about it, because why it's kind of why I left
Speaker 1: without being sanctimonious and better than because I was there
Speaker 1: and created a lot of success there. But it got
Speaker 1: to a point. There's a point where you're like, this
Speaker 1: feels a little icky. I can't really justify this, so
Speaker 1: it's why I was asking. But they do feel a
Speaker 1: little like soapish. You're playing a character and you wouldn't
Speaker 1: really in your real life do the things of the
Speaker 1: scripted character that you were playing. So it's it's different.
Speaker 1: This is real women, and I think that people that
Speaker 1: are watching want to They battle and struggle between oh,
Speaker 1: that's not real or they're not making it real enough
Speaker 1: and really thinking it's not real. So being okay with
Speaker 1: how toxic it is, does that make any sense, like
Speaker 1: forgetting that it's actually real women fighting and forping each
Speaker 1: other's hair, that they forget that it's not scripted, it's
Speaker 1: real women. So it's like a blurred line there I
Speaker 1: make any say.
Speaker 2: I just dislike all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got it? Okay. So did you think are you
Speaker 1: a person that likes consistency and you have loved just
Speaker 1: knowing exactly what not to expect because every day is different,
Speaker 1: but that you have a level of consistency and comfort
Speaker 1: and like you. You have a life that you've carved
Speaker 1: out and curated in being on a soap for so
Speaker 1: many years, I mean unprecedented, Like, what does that mean
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 2: That's the greatest gift. It's you know it it it.
Speaker 2: I think it's the best of show business. I think
Speaker 2: it allows me to first of all, pay my mortgage,
Speaker 2: but secondly to be in the same place with the
Speaker 2: same phone number, in the same dressing room, and the
Speaker 2: same co stars and the same here and makeup people,
Speaker 2: and that that's a recipe for creativity. I'm not always
Speaker 2: having to audition, create a new part, work with new
Speaker 2: people that I'm not sure of, don't have to travel.
Speaker 2: My kids can come to work with me. When they
Speaker 2: were babies, they did, could bring a nanny to work.
Speaker 2: It's just it's the best, the best. And in terms
Speaker 2: of performance, we also get to play every beat of
Speaker 2: an emotion. So in nighttime shows, you might be in
Speaker 2: you know, one scene in five telling the story and
Speaker 2: day and days, or in soaps you're telling every frame
Speaker 2: of the story that you're in.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I'm friends with Kelly Ripper, good friends with Kelly Rippa,
Speaker 1: and we've talked about the comfort level like of just
Speaker 1: choosing a job where Mark would take roles and go
Speaker 1: travel and do movies and different things where she liked
Speaker 1: that consistency of having young kids and knowing where she's going.
Speaker 1: And interestingly enough, she landed another job that has a
Speaker 1: similar aspect to it. You know, she knows where she's
Speaker 1: going to be in the morning, she knows what it entails.
Speaker 1: There are other things that she can do to do
Speaker 1: promotion for it or other deals, but by and large,
Speaker 1: she's had a very consistent life. And I think that
Speaker 1: that is something that mother's parents do crave and there's
Speaker 1: something nice of to not just worry about where your
Speaker 1: next paycheck's coming from.
Speaker 2: Well said yeap, love to tell you. I think she's
Speaker 2: just terrific. I enjoy watching her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she could do anything she wants, and she
Speaker 1: could be a business mobile and do a thousand things
Speaker 1: and be all over the place, and she chooses to,
Speaker 1: you know, layer one thing in at a time, Like
Speaker 1: she wrote one book recently took her all this time
Speaker 1: and she wrote it. She put her whole body into it.
Speaker 1: And then she'll launch a podcast, so she'll layer one
Speaker 1: thing into the batter versus like what I do, which
Speaker 1: is so many different things, which can be very tiring.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so I think that that's something. And did
Speaker 1: you were you tempted to do other things to leave?
Speaker 1: Did you feel like the grass was greener? How did
Speaker 1: you stay in this same place and evolved for all
Speaker 1: this time? How did you know you shouldn't be jumping
Speaker 1: ship and doing something else, particularly when you were younger.
Speaker 2: Well, the the disadvantage of soaps is is sometimes we're
Speaker 2: considered the step children, which I think is a device
Speaker 2: of we don't have the money for you know, three
Speaker 2: hour lighting. We don't have the time for a three
Speaker 2: hour wardrobe fitting, or don't have a lot of time
Speaker 2: to rehearse over and over and over. It's what makes
Speaker 2: it spontaneous. Oh, then you were asking something, I've lost
Speaker 2: my train of thought.
Speaker 1: Now when were the times that you thought you might
Speaker 1: jump off? You know? I left the Housewives at a
Speaker 1: certain time, and other people stayed on for fourteen, you know,
Speaker 1: fourteen seasons. And some people are those people that want
Speaker 1: to jump and then maybe come back or do it differently,
Speaker 1: and some people want the consistency and also don't care
Speaker 1: what people think because you're creating your own life. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that I could do for
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I don't want to do them
Speaker 1: because I have to like live in my own body
Speaker 1: and my own house with my daughter, and I could
Speaker 1: go back for millions of dollars to the Housewise, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Like, so you don't want
Speaker 1: to do other things, I think you've probably had other
Speaker 1: choices other so you know what, For.
Speaker 2: A while I did. I did a show called Our
Speaker 2: House for two seasons with Wilford Brimley. We all know Wilford,
Speaker 2: and it was a totally different animal because it, as
Speaker 2: you know, filming takes a long time and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of sitting around, a lot of waiting once again
Speaker 2: other people playing all the beats in the story. I
Speaker 2: loved it, and I missed my daytime. And I've done
Speaker 2: Hallmark movies, I've done other things. But I like what
Speaker 2: we talked about, coming to the same place where with
Speaker 2: the same people, having my life exactly as the one,
Speaker 2: and I don't have to work five days a week.
Speaker 2: I rarely do, so it gives me all. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the messages about people curating and creating their
Speaker 1: own career and everybody thinks I remember when I got
Speaker 1: a talk show, and I remember I had had too
Speaker 1: much to drink, and I was with a girlfriend and
Speaker 1: we were going to a party, and I said, what
Speaker 1: the hell am I getting myself into? Because everybody thought
Speaker 1: that it's something that I should want because it was
Speaker 1: so big and the numbers were and I felt suffocated instantly,
Speaker 1: and it didn't matter if I could make ten million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. I just it was directing traffic and
Speaker 1: when we come back and next up, and I just
Speaker 1: had ten people on me by seven am, asking questions.
Speaker 1: And I hated it. And so it didn't go on
Speaker 1: a second year, and I felt guilty because I didn't
Speaker 1: want it to get picked up again, but I wanted
Speaker 1: it to for the two hundred and fifty people that
Speaker 1: were working on or whatever it was. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do it. So often in life we think we're
Speaker 1: supposed to want something, whether it's who we're supposed to marry,
Speaker 1: or what where we're supposed to live, or how big
Speaker 1: our house is supposed to be. I didn't want that,
Speaker 1: no different than I don't want a house that has
Speaker 1: thirty bedrooms, Like I wouldn't want that, even though other
Speaker 1: people look at that on TV and think that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I think it looks dreadful. So that's why I talk
Speaker 1: about this. That's why I think it's fascinating your career
Speaker 1: and has it been because there are only four soaps
Speaker 1: and you said you mentioned paying your mortgage. It's a
Speaker 1: very successful show to be on all these years. So
Speaker 1: do you have leverage in negotiating? And do you make
Speaker 1: more money every year? And you know, have you felt
Speaker 1: like you just are happy to have job security or
Speaker 1: you do have some leverage, Like there's a dance going
Speaker 1: on with the people that you work for and that
Speaker 1: your fans would be frustrated if you weren't there, Like
Speaker 1: how does that work negotiating? Not specifically, but just dynamic.
Speaker 2: I think longevity is a good thing. I think having
Speaker 2: a long fan base, a passionate fan base is a
Speaker 2: offully good for us. You know, we recently moved over
Speaker 2: to Peacock, so it was a real thought process of
Speaker 2: how do we how do we help our people find
Speaker 2: us because it's not so easy to do, you know,
Speaker 2: and if you're not accustomed to to to you know,
Speaker 2: to streaming, how do they do that? But what we
Speaker 2: found is most people found us and a lot of
Speaker 2: new people found us, and then was at one point
Speaker 2: there was a number you could call if you can't
Speaker 2: find us on Peacock called this number We'll talk you
Speaker 2: through it, And there was actually, I think there was
Speaker 2: a period of time where there was a sense off
Speaker 2: coupon if you if you hadn't gotten Peacock yet, come on,
Speaker 2: we'll help you get it. So the people upstairs were
Speaker 2: very clever about helping our audience find us, and for
Speaker 2: the most part they did.
Speaker 1: And they did. That's interesting because I was talking to
Speaker 1: someone very successful in media the other day. We were
Speaker 1: talking about Bravo and he was saying that he's like,
Speaker 1: Bravo is streamers for old people, meaning like they have
Speaker 1: to get used to going on going online. There's there's YouTube,
Speaker 1: there's Instagram, there's Peacock, there's you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: all the apps. Like it's overwhelming. So I'm inspired by
Speaker 1: and moved by the fact that you were saying that
Speaker 1: they came because it's a different audience than you know,
Speaker 1: young Instagram TikTok or YouTubers that are finding extreamers. That's
Speaker 1: the only way they watched TV, and they watch it
Speaker 1: on their phone. So I think it's fascinating that you're
Speaker 1: saying they came. A lot of them came.
Speaker 2: And the good part about it is that on Peacock
Speaker 2: we are all day long. So where you used to
Speaker 2: have to be in front of your set at twelve
Speaker 2: or five o'clock wherever you were, suddenly you can get
Speaker 2: up at six in the morning and while you're getting
Speaker 2: ready to go to work, you can throw it on
Speaker 2: or it's there in the evening. So the advantages obviously
Speaker 2: were easy to find any time of day.
Speaker 1: Interesting. The many of the people you work with, you'd
Speaker 1: like a family. I work this is like a family.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been working with them forever.
Speaker 2: Forever, forever, Bill and Susan Hayes obviously the king of
Speaker 2: me in a daytime. I've been here for many, many
Speaker 2: many years before I got here, and the same thing,
Speaker 2: same hair and makeup people and for the most part,
Speaker 2: lighting cameramen. That people change out, obviously, but it's a family,
Speaker 2: and we're all pulling as hard as we can in
Speaker 2: the same direction to make it easy for everybody.
Speaker 1: And it's great. That's how it should be. That's kind
Speaker 1: of a change that I've noticed overall in the world
Speaker 1: about you know. I hear myself saying to my assistant
Speaker 1: a lot, like because I'll be aware, Oh you're working
Speaker 1: until eight o'clock this day, Okay, make sure you take
Speaker 1: a day off, like make sure you balance that out
Speaker 1: or you know, you want people to have work life balance.
Speaker 1: It's not the same as it used to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: I work really hard all the time, and I'm always
Speaker 1: thinking that's who I am. It's just my body. But
Speaker 1: I'm very aware and want I want people to be happy,
Speaker 1: like you want people to be happy, because then they're excited,
Speaker 1: like they're inspired. I'm working on a project right now
Speaker 1: and all of us. What did I say the other day,
Speaker 1: there's no drama. We're all excited and it's good. The
Speaker 1: outcome is good. But like we have no master. We're
Speaker 1: just all collaborative and we're at different levels. As a
Speaker 1: twenty two year old's kid, there's me, but we all
Speaker 1: there's no ego. That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1: When you work in an environment, there's no ego, and
Speaker 1: everybody seems the same, whether it's my assistant, a twenty
Speaker 1: two year old camera guy, my housekeeper, we're all the same.
Speaker 1: Like it's really fun and I like that environment. So
Speaker 1: you're describeding a whole crew and cast that all are
Speaker 1: just saying this is not this is There's only four
Speaker 1: there are only four soap operas left. But we all
Speaker 1: like our gigs. So let's like move the boat forward
Speaker 1: and all, you know, be slightly uncomfortable in certain ways
Speaker 1: but excited in other ways, and keep it moving.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, And everybody's giving a hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And everybody's giving one hundred percent. So have you and
Speaker 1: your character fused? Like? Is there crossover? Are there blurred lines?
Speaker 1: I mean, do you see yourself in her? And do
Speaker 1: you see her come into your real life, your non
Speaker 1: camera life.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't do this many pages of dialogue
Speaker 2: every day without having some ability to play from yourself.
Speaker 2: You know, Marlene's not a character to me. She sort
Speaker 2: of is who I am, and we have the same
Speaker 2: belief systems and family values and all that. Because that's
Speaker 2: easier for me. That's easier for me to play her
Speaker 2: if i'm if I sit inside her comfortably, I don't
Speaker 2: have to stretch way out of my own bounds to
Speaker 2: play her.
Speaker 1: And have you you mentioned doing other projects? So does
Speaker 1: this move really quick, and you like moving quickly like
Speaker 1: this shorthand to what you're doing, meaning when you talked
Speaker 1: about like you get to imbibe the entire character, and
Speaker 1: when you went over to do a movie or something,
Speaker 1: it's slower. And I noticed that I once did a
Speaker 1: part on I thought it was like Royal Pains or something,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was very tedious, like now we
Speaker 1: got to get the other stiff. Oh, I thought we
Speaker 1: were done, Like I want to get the cameras up
Speaker 1: and let's go. And that's why I can say I
Speaker 1: just started shooting a YouTube series two weeks ago because
Speaker 1: I and I had all these different TV offers, but
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk to a network, do a
Speaker 1: press to where someone was telling me to do. I
Speaker 1: didn't want bulk. I just wanted to, like, get the
Speaker 1: cameras up, let's do what I want to do, edit it,
Speaker 1: and weeks later, like it's ready, and it's it's twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: It's not short. It's a real episode. But I don't
Speaker 1: like a lot of bulk, and I like movement. So
Speaker 1: you kind of described that you feel at work like
Speaker 1: you understand the beast, you understand the game, and you
Speaker 1: guys get to do a lot and like, get it done.
Speaker 1: It's not that, it's not it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: that deep getting a product out, Is that what you're describing.
Speaker 2: We do an enormous amount of pages a week. We
Speaker 2: bounced between eight and nine shows a week, so that's
Speaker 2: a lot of work. But it's been figured out. Just
Speaker 2: the rubrics on it seems to work. And we can
Speaker 2: bind shows, we can bind scenes, We change sets at
Speaker 2: a certain point so that we're not moving cameras all
Speaker 2: the time, we're in the same wardrobe. They figured it out,
Speaker 2: they've cracked moving on how to do a lot.
Speaker 1: And you did, and you've and you've cranked out five
Speaker 1: thousand episodes a yeah, So what kind of record is that? Like,
Speaker 1: has anyone who's done five thousand? I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that just sounds like staggering to me.
Speaker 2: It did to me too, and I thought, oh, Shirley
Speaker 2: Johnny Carson, No, wait, maybe maybe, and that I couldn't
Speaker 2: think of anybody that would have been in a position
Speaker 2: or a show long enough doing it five days a
Speaker 2: week to have kind of come up with those numbers.
Speaker 1: So we don't have any comps. We don't. You don't
Speaker 1: know of any Do you have a star on the
Speaker 1: Walk of Fame?
Speaker 2: Not that I do.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that feels like five thousand. That feels major,
Speaker 1: major bag alert, that's major.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And so went jar that was huge. I
Speaker 2: was that just was just that was a moment.
Speaker 1: Where is it?
Speaker 2: It's Hollywood and Highland?
Speaker 1: That's so? And you have you brought like and your
Speaker 1: family's gone to see it? And like, have you walked
Speaker 1: on it since you got it? Have you been?
Speaker 2: My family's been been to see it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now you have how many kids?
Speaker 2: You have too?
Speaker 1: Two? And you are married? Still? Nope, you're not married.
Speaker 1: So you've been a single mom for years?
Speaker 2: Ye gosh, yes, I guess I have. Yeah, probably fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 2: seventeen years.
Speaker 1: And what do your kids do?
Speaker 2: My my my eldest is uh is working for Golden Voice.
Speaker 2: You know what Golden Voice is?
Speaker 1: No, what is it?
Speaker 2: Okay? They put on concerts, Oh, coach, it comes from
Speaker 2: Golden Voice and the Yeah, and my youngest is still
Speaker 2: in school. Oh nice, okay yea.
Speaker 1: And so they didn't want to go into like performing
Speaker 1: or the entertainment industry in this way. They like, interesting,
Speaker 1: do you feel that what level of recognizability do you
Speaker 1: have Have you had a normal life outside of work,
Speaker 1: like walking around are you getting recognized all the time
Speaker 1: or it's really like a sprinkling.
Speaker 2: I live in a small town. The people there know me, uh,
Speaker 2: other than Santa Monica obviously, and uh uh, it's it's
Speaker 2: just not a big deal, you know, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not walking the streets in New York where you seeing strangers,
Speaker 2: you know, moment after moments and realizing that, oh I
Speaker 2: think I know her. You must get this. Sometimes I'll
Speaker 2: think somebody will say did I go to school with you?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Because it can't quite place yes.
Speaker 1: Out of context exactly. No. I bring that up to
Speaker 1: certain people because I feel like it's not to be
Speaker 1: fame is not to be underestimated, meaning like there's nice
Speaker 1: when you when you when you meet someone and you're like,
Speaker 1: what's the level of fame? Because there's an arc where
Speaker 1: if you've crossed over that you really can have a
Speaker 1: lot of discomfort in your life, and there's a point
Speaker 1: where it can be really nice and you can engage
Speaker 1: with people who really recognize you and connect and say
Speaker 1: the right thing in the sense that they'll not be invasive,
Speaker 1: but respectful and understand. And it's a really nice experience
Speaker 1: that someone appreciates your work and what you mean. And
Speaker 1: I can imagine someone like Taylor Swift literally cannot walk
Speaker 1: outside of her apartment and that feels suffocating and like
Speaker 1: you can't be a normal human being. So while I
Speaker 1: would if I went to a mall or like a
Speaker 1: food festival, I would be attacked every two seconds, but
Speaker 1: I don't do that that often. And I can go
Speaker 1: to a Dollar Tree store and be recognized, but in
Speaker 1: a very fun way, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: it's not or go to CVS and I feel like
Speaker 1: I often say I'm the Justin Bieber of CVS. But
Speaker 1: it seems like there's just a recurring theme of you
Speaker 1: creating the light work life balance that you wanted and
Speaker 1: kept kept working on very diligently. So what are you
Speaker 1: working on besides do you work on other what do
Speaker 1: you do besides work?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What is what are your hobbies and what are the
Speaker 1: projects are you're working on? And you know what goals
Speaker 1: do you have?
Speaker 2: Now, I've got a garden. I love my garden. It's
Speaker 2: tomato seasons, so it's going to be gaspacho season and
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, I can. I make jams and I can,
Speaker 2: and that to me is great fun. That's just being
Speaker 2: home and relaxing and working working in the garden.
Speaker 1: You can't, okay, do you know about So I have
Speaker 1: I have an apple orchard, and I have to now
Speaker 1: decide which I have decided this morning, unless someone can
Speaker 1: convince me otherwise. If you have a thriving apple orchard
Speaker 1: which had died before I moved here, and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize my house is from seventeen forty three that if
Speaker 1: you have a thriving apple orchard, you can't fertilize around it,
Speaker 1: and so you're going to have bees, which then will
Speaker 1: be on your property or something like that. So the
Speaker 1: suggestion that the house manager made today because I was like, no,
Speaker 1: we need I want the apples, and I don't. We
Speaker 1: want to apple pick on our property and like make
Speaker 1: apple pie and be apple people. So but I also
Speaker 1: don't want bees everywhere. So he said, I suggest you
Speaker 1: get a bee keeper or a bee person that comes,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, does that mean we're gonna have honey?
Speaker 1: And so like now I'm leaning into it. So it
Speaker 1: seems like a cousin to gardening where we can have
Speaker 1: our own honey. So do you think that's a good
Speaker 1: idea or a bad idea.
Speaker 2: I've got a neighbor that raises bees and produces honey.
Speaker 2: And I walked down to visitor one day and thought,
Speaker 2: this is this is of my bandwidth is there's a
Speaker 2: whole process to it.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't want to be a bee keeper.
Speaker 1: I want to be a bee. I want to be
Speaker 1: be adjacent. I want to be like like relate. I
Speaker 1: relate to bees and and I you know, they can
Speaker 1: identify as bees, and I'm identifying as a person that
Speaker 1: wouldn't normally want bees, but I want a relationship with
Speaker 1: them so we could keep those trees.
Speaker 2: Well, you need to learn about bees. You know bees,
Speaker 2: there are male and female bees, and a lot of
Speaker 2: them don't sting, right, I want either male and female
Speaker 2: doesn't sting. And you know that bees sleep holding hands.
Speaker 1: You know a little more than the average b.
Speaker 2: Well only because they interest me. But yeah, and then
Speaker 2: you'll love them and then you'll appreciate them, and then
Speaker 2: you'll love having them around. Okay, you know that's and
Speaker 2: you know when the bees go, we're all done anyway.
Speaker 1: So all right, So you you then you're pro b.
Speaker 1: Not you're not pro fertilizer in this scenario, you're pro b.
Speaker 1: I'm pro b, you're pro b. So I'm leaning into
Speaker 1: the end your pro apple tree, I assume because you're
Speaker 1: a gardener.
Speaker 2: I am. I'm and I'm thinking that somebody has solved
Speaker 2: this problem for you already. You need to dig a
Speaker 2: little bit deeper and say, I'm not the first person
Speaker 2: hasn't Well, I'm not.
Speaker 1: The first person that had apple trees and bees. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do a TikTok on it and my
Speaker 1: people will comment and they'll let me know what they think. Okay,
Speaker 1: so great I did. This is not the thing that
Speaker 1: I thought we'd be talking about, but I'm excited. And
Speaker 1: I also want you to know that I the best
Speaker 1: gaspacho on the planet Earth. I know that sounds like
Speaker 1: a very massive statement, but on the planet Earth is
Speaker 1: in the Hampton's at a place called round Swamp Farm,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna explain why I know it's the best.
Speaker 1: First of all, I would never pay eighteen dollars for
Speaker 1: a large thing of gaspacho, like I just wouldn't. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of money. It is so insane and addictive,
Speaker 1: and they don't keep a lot of chunks. It's puried,
Speaker 1: but it is so unincredibly delicious that they won't even
Speaker 1: give out the recipes, so we have to try to
Speaker 1: recreate it. But at the end of the season, I
Speaker 1: buy ten of them and I freeze them and they
Speaker 1: kind of just last till the next season because I
Speaker 1: don't need it every I do need it every day
Speaker 1: when I've opened one, but I don't need it all year.
Speaker 1: You get you get over it like you did it,
Speaker 1: and then you need to wait till next month and
Speaker 1: then you'll be into it again. Because it's like I live,
Speaker 1: I think about it, I dream about it. I'm going
Speaker 1: to send it to you and you're not going to
Speaker 1: believe how good it is. It is not, so we
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to recreate it with your tomatoes.
Speaker 2: Dear dur Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a big thing. It's zesty, it's perade. It's
Speaker 1: like just salty enough, and it just I don't know
Speaker 1: if you sometimes crave salt, but I get dehydrated and
Speaker 1: need the salt to hold on to thing, and I like,
Speaker 1: I think about it, like I dream about it. So
Speaker 1: I'm sending it to you. It's divine.
Speaker 2: I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I'm waity, you're ready for me, okay, because maybe both
Speaker 1: of us can figure out what's in it? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to kind of go there
Speaker 1: and say, like I'm allergic to something, so what's in it?
Speaker 1: So we can kind of like try to navigate. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's not overly cucumbery, it's not overly peppery
Speaker 1: by any means. It's just essence of tomatoes and zest.
Speaker 1: So I'm sending it to you. Yeah, you're gonna freak. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna freak you. Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get it. It's start. When does the season start? Like
Speaker 1: when will tomatoes start to be bountiful?
Speaker 2: You get another probably three four.
Speaker 1: Weeks, Okay, all right, I'm on it. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: your address and we're gonna send We're gonna send it
Speaker 1: to you. Okay. So you originally wanted to be a psychologist,
Speaker 1: that was what you wanted to do.
Speaker 2: I was in college studying, yes, sending therapy.
Speaker 1: Do you believe? Do you go to therapy? I go
Speaker 1: to therapy. I'm like calling you out but I go
Speaker 1: to a therapist, and so do you.
Speaker 2: I'm not the moment, but I'm a strong believer in it.
Speaker 1: Right you had? Do you have like I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not at the moment. I have someone, but I don't
Speaker 1: go every Tuesday at four o'clock, but I have someone
Speaker 1: to call upon.
Speaker 2: Are you do you I've got somebody to call on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you do. And if I end up in crisis and
Speaker 2: have a problem that I need help with, I have
Speaker 2: no hesitation.
Speaker 1: No hesitation, And what do you think about this road
Speaker 1: that took you on this journey versus being a psychologist,
Speaker 1: which is quite different peculiar?
Speaker 2: Well, I was in school, and I was supporting school obviously,
Speaker 2: and and I kept having to back up because I
Speaker 2: kept getting acting jobs, which was supporting school. So at
Speaker 2: one point I thought, wait a minute, I'll just I'll
Speaker 2: just keep on acting until I have my career. And
Speaker 2: then thought, wait a minute, I'm missing something. I seem
Speaker 2: to have a career. So at that point I dropped
Speaker 2: out of college and just one full time.
Speaker 1: Acting And how were you getting acting jobs when it
Speaker 1: wasn't even your main gig. That's so hard for some people.
Speaker 2: Because I began by modeling, and I would model in
Speaker 2: those jobs don't last forever. And then and then my
Speaker 2: agents said, I want to try some commercials. Okay they
Speaker 2: pay better, Yes they do, I'll do commercials. And then
Speaker 2: she said, whytn't to try acting? Is it okay?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: And you know when Universe was hiring every cute little
Speaker 2: girl in town to be a nurse or a secretary
Speaker 2: and got enough jobs. And I was doing a job
Speaker 2: where I had to approach a scene and with Barry
Speaker 2: Sullivan when he had a long monologue and bring him
Speaker 2: some papers and exit the scene. And what I had
Speaker 2: not realized was it was a long shot and that
Speaker 2: I actually was meant to go back into the office.
Speaker 2: But I actually went and sat at a chair and
Speaker 2: watched him do his scene, and I was in the shot.
Speaker 2: And that was when I said, uh uh, you can't
Speaker 2: do this to people. If you want to do this,
Speaker 2: you've got to get into some classes. So I studied
Speaker 2: for about twelve years, and yeah, don't don't mess around
Speaker 2: with this. You're going to be serious about it, get
Speaker 2: serious about everything.
Speaker 1: If you do and do it. If you don't, don't.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm like that with literally every single thing
Speaker 1: that I do. If I make a coffee, it's going
Speaker 1: to be good. Like I don't play games otherwise, I'd
Speaker 1: rather just lay down and sleep. Let's do it or don't.
Speaker 1: I'm very much like that. And do you do commercials anymore?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like your skin is perfect, and I
Speaker 1: feel like you would be great in commercials, not that
Speaker 1: you need another job.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks, I don't do commercials. No, I would, but
Speaker 2: it just hasn't come up.
Speaker 1: I could. I think you should. I think you should
Speaker 1: be doing like some commercials for like longevity and skin
Speaker 1: and like I don't know, I'm just looking at you.
Speaker 1: I would see you in a commercial.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, I'll make a call when we're done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make a call, say back, and when you go
Speaker 1: to Cassie Bethanny Frankel says, I should be doing commercials.
Speaker 1: I think people believe me. Not everybody likes me, deir Jo,
Speaker 1: but people do believe me. So I feel like that
Speaker 1: endorsement might go somewhere. You'll let me know and wait
Speaker 1: till you get the caspacho.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be contacting you then.
Speaker 1: Yes, please? Awesome? Okay, did we forget anything to be missing? Anything?
Speaker 1: Is there anything you wanted to mention about your family,
Speaker 1: your life, your business, your show.
Speaker 2: I just don't like to feel like the luckiest girl
Speaker 2: in the world. I'm living my dream, happy with my children,
Speaker 2: happy with my job, happy with my friends, happy the
Speaker 2: word live.
Speaker 1: You have peace and balance.
Speaker 2: They have peace and balance. I'm talking about piece and
Speaker 2: balance on the show today. How funny you would say that.
Speaker 1: That's so weird because I feel that when you're younger,
Speaker 1: you want a little bit of chaos and things to
Speaker 1: be a little difficult, and whatever you think is awesome
Speaker 1: is exhilarating. And now I feel like it doesn't mean mediocrity,
Speaker 1: but good is great, like calm is good, sleep is good,
Speaker 1: being I mean bored, you know, hydration healthy, like just
Speaker 1: feeling alive feels good, meaning feeling fresh. Where we used
Speaker 1: to be, you didn't care if you didn't sleep, and
Speaker 1: you didn't even care if you felt like half a wreck.
Speaker 1: So I feel like peace and balance is extremely valuable,
Speaker 1: and I do think younger people could stand to learn that.
Speaker 2: They'll get to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll get to exactly.
Speaker 2: Jalapenos. I put jalapenos in my in my gaspontso.
Speaker 1: And it's spicy or not too spicy. It's just giving
Speaker 1: a tiny.
Speaker 2: Kiss enough just to kick.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get I'm going to send you this,
Speaker 1: and this could be a project. We have to figure
Speaker 1: out how to recreate it, because I'm telling you it's
Speaker 1: another level. I cannot wait to get it. And I'm
Speaker 1: not sending you a frozen one, because the frozen ones
Speaker 1: are good, but they're not like the fresh ones. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to figure out how to ship it. Maybe
Speaker 1: some dry ice. I'll do a deep dive on that
Speaker 1: and let me know. I'll give I'll give them, they'll
Speaker 1: give you my number, and you'll let me know if
Speaker 1: I if I oversold.
Speaker 2: This, okay, and and and I will in turn send
Speaker 2: you my recipe.
Speaker 1: Okay, fabulous You purae or you like the chunks because
Speaker 1: I like things period, that's just my own personal preference.
Speaker 2: Purd you do like.
Speaker 1: I don't like chunky soups. It's like a meal. I
Speaker 1: don't like goula. I need puree and like because it's
Speaker 1: because it's because it's peaceful and it's balance, very nice, yes,
Speaker 1: a piece and balance for perfect awesome. Oh, dear dress,
Speaker 1: so nice to meet you, and thank you for coming
Speaker 1: and congratulations on so many milestones with stars on the
Speaker 1: Walk of Fame, five thousand episodes, piece and balance. Good
Speaker 1: Spot Show was a lot there, beautiful healthy children.
Speaker 2: So nice to nice.
Speaker 1: To meet you, awesome, have a great day. She was
Speaker 1: lovely and beautiful and sweet and from a different world.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about soap opera actresses besides Lisa
Speaker 1: Rinna and Kelly Rippa, and you know, it's nice to
Speaker 1: learn something about something you know nothing about, about a
Speaker 1: person you know nothing about, an industry you know nothing about,
Speaker 1: and just you know, acknowledge someone's success in a totally
Speaker 1: different space and time. And she was really sweet and
Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to get her information, get her the
Speaker 1: Good Spot Show. I never ever don't follow through on
Speaker 1: something I say I'm going to do. That is something
Speaker 1: that is just who I am. So I will figure
Speaker 1: out how to ship this fresh Spot show from the
Speaker 1: Hamptons and make sure that it's not frozen but fresh.
Speaker 1: And I'm excited. So yeah, nice to meet dear Jehol
Speaker 1: and go watch her show. And Peacock