1 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Deir dra Hall is here a soap opera legend is 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: amongst us five thousand episodes. Actress Deir Drahal is best 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: known for her portrayal of Marlena Evans on NBC's daytime 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: drama Days of Our Lives, whom she has played for 5 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: over forty five years. She is officially the longest running 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: soap actress ever, just passing the five thousand episode mark. 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely incredible, possibly unprecedented. This is just be with Deirdre Hall. 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. So how many how many soaps 9 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: are there left? 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 2: Four? 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Four? Wow? So when when soaps started leaving television? Were 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: you nervous? 13 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: I think that what ended up happening was Greg Ming, 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: who was our executive producer, saw the trend it's getting 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: more expensive to shoot them and blah blah blah, revenue 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: might not be there. And so he figured out a 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: way to start wrong word, just cutting cost and you know, 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: cut out a rehearsal, cut out of this, cut out 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: of that, do more shows in a day, you know, 20 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: take a week off once a month. So that he 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: really cracked the code on how to do it on 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: a budget. I am persuaded as why we lasted as 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: long as we have because because the other shows can't 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: do it. 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Well. Oh so he has a gift for it that 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: other shows don't have, Like he just was a masterminded. 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: That's early on he figured out and we, you know, 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: we we began making changes that had been made to 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: make us come in under budget. 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Got it? Okay, So I'm going I might go all 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: over the place because I'm just I'm just going with 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: what's interesting to me. And when I've jumped off the 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: page and you, so, do you what do you think 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: of Housewives? Like? Do you feel like that's like a 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: real a reality show, soap opera? Does it do you? 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: Does it remind you of what your characters doing? 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: No, don't. I don't watch any of those shows. 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: You don't watch You don't even know what they're doing. 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: You know. 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: My problem with those shows is that they're relying on 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: women fighting. And I'm not a fan. 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I got it, agreed, I get it. It's I know. 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I watch a lot of really 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: high profile people talk about it and watch it, and 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I think and then they do feel a little guilty 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: about it, because why it's kind of why I left 47 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: without being sanctimonious and better than because I was there 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: and created a lot of success there. But it got 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: to a point. There's a point where you're like, this 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: feels a little icky. I can't really justify this, so 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: it's why I was asking. But they do feel a 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: little like soapish. You're playing a character and you wouldn't 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: really in your real life do the things of the 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: scripted character that you were playing. So it's it's different. 55 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: This is real women, and I think that people that 56 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: are watching want to They battle and struggle between oh, 57 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: that's not real or they're not making it real enough 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: and really thinking it's not real. So being okay with 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: how toxic it is, does that make any sense, like 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: forgetting that it's actually real women fighting and forping each 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: other's hair, that they forget that it's not scripted, it's 62 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: real women. So it's like a blurred line there I 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: make any say. 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: I just dislike all of it. 65 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, got it? Okay. So did you think are you 66 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: a person that likes consistency and you have loved just 67 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: knowing exactly what not to expect because every day is different, 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: but that you have a level of consistency and comfort 69 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: and like you. You have a life that you've carved 70 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: out and curated in being on a soap for so 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: many years, I mean unprecedented, Like, what does that mean 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: to you? 73 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: That's the greatest gift. It's you know it it it. 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: I think it's the best of show business. I think 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: it allows me to first of all, pay my mortgage, 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: but secondly to be in the same place with the 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: same phone number, in the same dressing room, and the 78 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: same co stars and the same here and makeup people, 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: and that that's a recipe for creativity. I'm not always 80 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: having to audition, create a new part, work with new 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: people that I'm not sure of, don't have to travel. 82 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: My kids can come to work with me. When they 83 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: were babies, they did, could bring a nanny to work. 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: It's just it's the best, the best. And in terms 85 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: of performance, we also get to play every beat of 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: an emotion. So in nighttime shows, you might be in 87 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: you know, one scene in five telling the story and 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: day and days, or in soaps you're telling every frame 89 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: of the story that you're in. 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: Interesting. I'm friends with Kelly Ripper, good friends with Kelly Rippa, 91 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: and we've talked about the comfort level like of just 92 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: choosing a job where Mark would take roles and go 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: travel and do movies and different things where she liked 94 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: that consistency of having young kids and knowing where she's going. 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: And interestingly enough, she landed another job that has a 96 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: similar aspect to it. You know, she knows where she's 97 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: going to be in the morning, she knows what it entails. 98 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: There are other things that she can do to do 99 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: promotion for it or other deals, but by and large, 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: she's had a very consistent life. And I think that 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: that is something that mother's parents do crave and there's 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: something nice of to not just worry about where your 103 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: next paycheck's coming from. 104 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: Well said yeap, love to tell you. I think she's 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: just terrific. I enjoy watching her. 106 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And she could do anything she wants, and she 107 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: could be a business mobile and do a thousand things 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: and be all over the place, and she chooses to, 109 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, layer one thing in at a time, Like 110 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: she wrote one book recently took her all this time 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: and she wrote it. She put her whole body into it. 112 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: And then she'll launch a podcast, so she'll layer one 113 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: thing into the batter versus like what I do, which 114 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: is so many different things, which can be very tiring. 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, so I think that that's something. And did 116 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: you were you tempted to do other things to leave? 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Did you feel like the grass was greener? How did 118 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: you stay in this same place and evolved for all 119 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: this time? How did you know you shouldn't be jumping 120 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: ship and doing something else, particularly when you were younger. 121 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: Well, the the disadvantage of soaps is is sometimes we're 122 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: considered the step children, which I think is a device 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: of we don't have the money for you know, three 124 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: hour lighting. We don't have the time for a three 125 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: hour wardrobe fitting, or don't have a lot of time 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: to rehearse over and over and over. It's what makes 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: it spontaneous. Oh, then you were asking something, I've lost 128 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: my train of thought. 129 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Now when were the times that you thought you might 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: jump off? You know? I left the Housewives at a 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: certain time, and other people stayed on for fourteen, you know, 132 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: fourteen seasons. And some people are those people that want 133 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: to jump and then maybe come back or do it differently, 134 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: and some people want the consistency and also don't care 135 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: what people think because you're creating your own life. There 136 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of things that I could do for 137 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: a lot of money. I don't want to do them 138 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: because I have to like live in my own body 139 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: and my own house with my daughter, and I could 140 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: go back for millions of dollars to the Housewise, I 141 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Like, so you don't want 142 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: to do other things, I think you've probably had other 143 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: choices other so you know what, For. 144 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: A while I did. I did a show called Our 145 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: House for two seasons with Wilford Brimley. We all know Wilford, 146 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: and it was a totally different animal because it, as 147 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, filming takes a long time and there's a 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: lot of sitting around, a lot of waiting once again 149 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: other people playing all the beats in the story. I 150 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: loved it, and I missed my daytime. And I've done 151 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: Hallmark movies, I've done other things. But I like what 152 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: we talked about, coming to the same place where with 153 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: the same people, having my life exactly as the one, 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: and I don't have to work five days a week. 155 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: I rarely do, so it gives me all. Yeah. 156 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: I think the messages about people curating and creating their 157 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: own career and everybody thinks I remember when I got 158 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: a talk show, and I remember I had had too 159 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: much to drink, and I was with a girlfriend and 160 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: we were going to a party, and I said, what 161 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: the hell am I getting myself into? Because everybody thought 162 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: that it's something that I should want because it was 163 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: so big and the numbers were and I felt suffocated instantly, 164 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: and it didn't matter if I could make ten million 165 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: dollars a year. I just it was directing traffic and 166 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: when we come back and next up, and I just 167 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: had ten people on me by seven am, asking questions. 168 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: And I hated it. And so it didn't go on 169 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: a second year, and I felt guilty because I didn't 170 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: want it to get picked up again, but I wanted 171 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: it to for the two hundred and fifty people that 172 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: were working on or whatever it was. I didn't want 173 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: to do it. So often in life we think we're 174 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: supposed to want something, whether it's who we're supposed to marry, 175 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: or what where we're supposed to live, or how big 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: our house is supposed to be. I didn't want that, 177 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: no different than I don't want a house that has 178 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: thirty bedrooms, Like I wouldn't want that, even though other 179 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: people look at that on TV and think that's amazing. 180 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: I think it looks dreadful. So that's why I talk 181 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: about this. That's why I think it's fascinating your career 182 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: and has it been because there are only four soaps 183 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: and you said you mentioned paying your mortgage. It's a 184 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: very successful show to be on all these years. So 185 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: do you have leverage in negotiating? And do you make 186 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: more money every year? And you know, have you felt 187 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: like you just are happy to have job security or 188 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: you do have some leverage, Like there's a dance going 189 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: on with the people that you work for and that 190 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: your fans would be frustrated if you weren't there, Like 191 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,239 Speaker 1: how does that work negotiating? Not specifically, but just dynamic. 192 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: I think longevity is a good thing. I think having 193 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: a long fan base, a passionate fan base is a 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: offully good for us. You know, we recently moved over 195 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: to Peacock, so it was a real thought process of 196 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: how do we how do we help our people find 197 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: us because it's not so easy to do, you know, 198 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: and if you're not accustomed to to to you know, 199 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: to streaming, how do they do that? But what we 200 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: found is most people found us and a lot of 201 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: new people found us, and then was at one point 202 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: there was a number you could call if you can't 203 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: find us on Peacock called this number We'll talk you 204 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: through it, And there was actually, I think there was 205 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: a period of time where there was a sense off 206 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: coupon if you if you hadn't gotten Peacock yet, come on, 207 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: we'll help you get it. So the people upstairs were 208 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: very clever about helping our audience find us, and for 209 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: the most part they did. 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: And they did. That's interesting because I was talking to 211 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: someone very successful in media the other day. We were 212 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: talking about Bravo and he was saying that he's like, 213 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Bravo is streamers for old people, meaning like they have 214 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: to get used to going on going online. There's there's YouTube, 215 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: there's Instagram, there's Peacock, there's you know, I don't have 216 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: all the apps. Like it's overwhelming. So I'm inspired by 217 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: and moved by the fact that you were saying that 218 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: they came because it's a different audience than you know, 219 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: young Instagram TikTok or YouTubers that are finding extreamers. That's 220 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: the only way they watched TV, and they watch it 221 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: on their phone. So I think it's fascinating that you're 222 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: saying they came. A lot of them came. 223 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: And the good part about it is that on Peacock 224 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: we are all day long. So where you used to 225 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: have to be in front of your set at twelve 226 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: or five o'clock wherever you were, suddenly you can get 227 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: up at six in the morning and while you're getting 228 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: ready to go to work, you can throw it on 229 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: or it's there in the evening. So the advantages obviously 230 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: were easy to find any time of day. 231 00:11:48,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Interesting. The many of the people you work with, you'd 232 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: like a family. I work this is like a family. 233 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been working with them forever. 234 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: Forever, forever, Bill and Susan Hayes obviously the king of 235 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: me in a daytime. I've been here for many, many 236 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: many years before I got here, and the same thing, 237 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: same hair and makeup people and for the most part, 238 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: lighting cameramen. That people change out, obviously, but it's a family, 239 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: and we're all pulling as hard as we can in 240 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: the same direction to make it easy for everybody. 241 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: And it's great. That's how it should be. That's kind 242 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: of a change that I've noticed overall in the world 243 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: about you know. I hear myself saying to my assistant 244 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: a lot, like because I'll be aware, Oh you're working 245 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: until eight o'clock this day, Okay, make sure you take 246 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: a day off, like make sure you balance that out 247 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: or you know, you want people to have work life balance. 248 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: It's not the same as it used to be. I mean, 249 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: I work really hard all the time, and I'm always 250 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: thinking that's who I am. It's just my body. But 251 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm very aware and want I want people to be happy, 252 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: like you want people to be happy, because then they're excited, 253 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: like they're inspired. I'm working on a project right now 254 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: and all of us. What did I say the other day, 255 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: there's no drama. We're all excited and it's good. The 256 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: outcome is good. But like we have no master. We're 257 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: just all collaborative and we're at different levels. As a 258 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: twenty two year old's kid, there's me, but we all 259 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: there's no ego. That's what I was going to say. 260 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: When you work in an environment, there's no ego, and 261 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: everybody seems the same, whether it's my assistant, a twenty 262 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: two year old camera guy, my housekeeper, we're all the same. 263 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: Like it's really fun and I like that environment. So 264 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: you're describeding a whole crew and cast that all are 265 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: just saying this is not this is There's only four 266 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: there are only four soap operas left. But we all 267 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: like our gigs. So let's like move the boat forward 268 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: and all, you know, be slightly uncomfortable in certain ways 269 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: but excited in other ways, and keep it moving. 270 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, And everybody's giving a hundred percent. 271 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: And everybody's giving one hundred percent. So have you and 272 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: your character fused? Like? Is there crossover? Are there blurred lines? 273 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, do you see yourself in her? And do 274 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: you see her come into your real life, your non 275 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: camera life. 276 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: You know, you can't do this many pages of dialogue 277 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: every day without having some ability to play from yourself. 278 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: You know, Marlene's not a character to me. She sort 279 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: of is who I am, and we have the same 280 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: belief systems and family values and all that. Because that's 281 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: easier for me. That's easier for me to play her 282 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: if i'm if I sit inside her comfortably, I don't 283 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: have to stretch way out of my own bounds to 284 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: play her. 285 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: And have you you mentioned doing other projects? So does 286 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: this move really quick, and you like moving quickly like 287 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: this shorthand to what you're doing, meaning when you talked 288 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: about like you get to imbibe the entire character, and 289 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: when you went over to do a movie or something, 290 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: it's slower. And I noticed that I once did a 291 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: part on I thought it was like Royal Pains or something, 292 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: and I thought it was very tedious, like now we 293 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: got to get the other stiff. Oh, I thought we 294 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: were done, Like I want to get the cameras up 295 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: and let's go. And that's why I can say I 296 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: just started shooting a YouTube series two weeks ago because 297 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: I and I had all these different TV offers, but 298 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk to a network, do a 299 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: press to where someone was telling me to do. I 300 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: didn't want bulk. I just wanted to, like, get the 301 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: cameras up, let's do what I want to do, edit it, 302 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: and weeks later, like it's ready, and it's it's twenty minutes. 303 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: It's not short. It's a real episode. But I don't 304 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of bulk, and I like movement. So 305 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: you kind of described that you feel at work like 306 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: you understand the beast, you understand the game, and you 307 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: guys get to do a lot and like, get it done. 308 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: It's not that, it's not it doesn't have to be 309 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: that deep getting a product out, Is that what you're describing. 310 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: We do an enormous amount of pages a week. We 311 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: bounced between eight and nine shows a week, so that's 312 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: a lot of work. But it's been figured out. Just 313 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: the rubrics on it seems to work. And we can 314 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: bind shows, we can bind scenes, We change sets at 315 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: a certain point so that we're not moving cameras all 316 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: the time, we're in the same wardrobe. They figured it out, 317 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,479 Speaker 2: they've cracked moving on how to do a lot. 318 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: And you did, and you've and you've cranked out five 319 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: thousand episodes a yeah, So what kind of record is that? Like, 320 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: has anyone who's done five thousand? I mean, I don't know, 321 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: but that just sounds like staggering to me. 322 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: It did to me too, and I thought, oh, Shirley 323 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: Johnny Carson, No, wait, maybe maybe, and that I couldn't 324 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: think of anybody that would have been in a position 325 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: or a show long enough doing it five days a 326 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: week to have kind of come up with those numbers. 327 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: So we don't have any comps. We don't. You don't 328 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: know of any Do you have a star on the 329 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Walk of Fame? 330 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: Not that I do. 331 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh okay, that feels like five thousand. That feels major, 332 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: major bag alert, that's major. 333 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And so went jar that was huge. I 334 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: was that just was just that was a moment. 335 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: Where is it? 336 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: It's Hollywood and Highland? 337 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: That's so? And you have you brought like and your 338 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: family's gone to see it? And like, have you walked 339 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: on it since you got it? Have you been? 340 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: My family's been been to see it. Yeah. 341 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: Now you have how many kids? 342 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: You have too? 343 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: Two? And you are married? Still? Nope, you're not married. 344 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: So you've been a single mom for years? 345 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: Ye gosh, yes, I guess I have. Yeah, probably fifteen, sixteen, 346 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: seventeen years. 347 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: And what do your kids do? 348 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: My my my eldest is uh is working for Golden Voice. 349 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: You know what Golden Voice is? 350 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: No, what is it? 351 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: Okay? They put on concerts, Oh, coach, it comes from 352 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: Golden Voice and the Yeah, and my youngest is still 353 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: in school. Oh nice, okay yea. 354 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: And so they didn't want to go into like performing 355 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: or the entertainment industry in this way. They like, interesting, 356 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: do you feel that what level of recognizability do you 357 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: have Have you had a normal life outside of work, 358 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: like walking around are you getting recognized all the time 359 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: or it's really like a sprinkling. 360 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: I live in a small town. The people there know me, uh, 361 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: other than Santa Monica obviously, and uh uh, it's it's 362 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: just not a big deal, you know, I'm not I'm 363 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: not walking the streets in New York where you seeing strangers, 364 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, moment after moments and realizing that, oh I 365 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: think I know her. You must get this. Sometimes I'll 366 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: think somebody will say did I go to school with you? 367 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: Yes? 368 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: Because it can't quite place yes. 369 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Out of context exactly. No. I bring that up to 370 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: certain people because I feel like it's not to be 371 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: fame is not to be underestimated, meaning like there's nice 372 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: when you when you when you meet someone and you're like, 373 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: what's the level of fame? Because there's an arc where 374 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: if you've crossed over that you really can have a 375 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: lot of discomfort in your life, and there's a point 376 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: where it can be really nice and you can engage 377 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: with people who really recognize you and connect and say 378 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: the right thing in the sense that they'll not be invasive, 379 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: but respectful and understand. And it's a really nice experience 380 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: that someone appreciates your work and what you mean. And 381 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: I can imagine someone like Taylor Swift literally cannot walk 382 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: outside of her apartment and that feels suffocating and like 383 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: you can't be a normal human being. So while I 384 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: would if I went to a mall or like a 385 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: food festival, I would be attacked every two seconds, but 386 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: I don't do that that often. And I can go 387 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: to a Dollar Tree store and be recognized, but in 388 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: a very fun way, you know what I mean, Like 389 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: it's not or go to CVS and I feel like 390 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: I often say I'm the Justin Bieber of CVS. But 391 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: it seems like there's just a recurring theme of you 392 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: creating the light work life balance that you wanted and 393 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: kept kept working on very diligently. So what are you 394 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: working on besides do you work on other what do 395 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: you do besides work? 396 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: Like? 397 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: What is what are your hobbies and what are the 398 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: projects are you're working on? And you know what goals 399 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: do you have? 400 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: Now, I've got a garden. I love my garden. It's 401 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: tomato seasons, so it's going to be gaspacho season and 402 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, I can. I make jams and I can, 403 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: and that to me is great fun. That's just being 404 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: home and relaxing and working working in the garden. 405 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: You can't, okay, do you know about So I have 406 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: I have an apple orchard, and I have to now 407 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: decide which I have decided this morning, unless someone can 408 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: convince me otherwise. If you have a thriving apple orchard 409 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: which had died before I moved here, and I didn't 410 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: realize my house is from seventeen forty three that if 411 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: you have a thriving apple orchard, you can't fertilize around it, 412 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: and so you're going to have bees, which then will 413 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: be on your property or something like that. So the 414 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: suggestion that the house manager made today because I was like, no, 415 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: we need I want the apples, and I don't. We 416 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: want to apple pick on our property and like make 417 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: apple pie and be apple people. So but I also 418 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: don't want bees everywhere. So he said, I suggest you 419 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: get a bee keeper or a bee person that comes, 420 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, does that mean we're gonna have honey? 421 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: And so like now I'm leaning into it. So it 422 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: seems like a cousin to gardening where we can have 423 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: our own honey. So do you think that's a good 424 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: idea or a bad idea. 425 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: I've got a neighbor that raises bees and produces honey. 426 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 2: And I walked down to visitor one day and thought, 427 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: this is this is of my bandwidth is there's a 428 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: whole process to it. 429 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't want to be a bee keeper. 430 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: I want to be a bee. I want to be 431 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: be adjacent. I want to be like like relate. I 432 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: relate to bees and and I you know, they can 433 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: identify as bees, and I'm identifying as a person that 434 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't normally want bees, but I want a relationship with 435 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: them so we could keep those trees. 436 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: Well, you need to learn about bees. You know bees, 437 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: there are male and female bees, and a lot of 438 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: them don't sting, right, I want either male and female 439 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: doesn't sting. And you know that bees sleep holding hands. 440 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: You know a little more than the average b. 441 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: Well only because they interest me. But yeah, and then 442 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: you'll love them and then you'll appreciate them, and then 443 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: you'll love having them around. Okay, you know that's and 444 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: you know when the bees go, we're all done anyway. 445 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: So all right, So you you then you're pro b. 446 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Not you're not pro fertilizer in this scenario, you're pro b. 447 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm pro b, you're pro b. So I'm leaning into 448 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: the end your pro apple tree, I assume because you're 449 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: a gardener. 450 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: I am. I'm and I'm thinking that somebody has solved 451 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: this problem for you already. You need to dig a 452 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: little bit deeper and say, I'm not the first person 453 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: hasn't Well, I'm not. 454 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: The first person that had apple trees and bees. Okay, 455 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do a TikTok on it and my 456 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: people will comment and they'll let me know what they think. Okay, 457 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: so great I did. This is not the thing that 458 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: I thought we'd be talking about, but I'm excited. And 459 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: I also want you to know that I the best 460 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: gaspacho on the planet Earth. I know that sounds like 461 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: a very massive statement, but on the planet Earth is 462 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: in the Hampton's at a place called round Swamp Farm, 463 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna explain why I know it's the best. 464 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: First of all, I would never pay eighteen dollars for 465 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: a large thing of gaspacho, like I just wouldn't. That's 466 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money. It is so insane and addictive, 467 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: and they don't keep a lot of chunks. It's puried, 468 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: but it is so unincredibly delicious that they won't even 469 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: give out the recipes, so we have to try to 470 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: recreate it. But at the end of the season, I 471 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: buy ten of them and I freeze them and they 472 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: kind of just last till the next season because I 473 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: don't need it every I do need it every day 474 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: when I've opened one, but I don't need it all year. 475 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: You get you get over it like you did it, 476 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: and then you need to wait till next month and 477 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: then you'll be into it again. Because it's like I live, 478 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: I think about it, I dream about it. I'm going 479 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: to send it to you and you're not going to 480 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: believe how good it is. It is not, so we 481 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: have to figure out how to recreate it with your tomatoes. 482 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: Dear dur Oh my goodness. 483 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a big thing. It's zesty, it's perade. It's 484 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: like just salty enough, and it just I don't know 485 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: if you sometimes crave salt, but I get dehydrated and 486 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: need the salt to hold on to thing, and I like, 487 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: I think about it, like I dream about it. So 488 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm sending it to you. It's divine. 489 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm ready. 490 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm waity, you're ready for me, okay, because maybe both 491 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: of us can figure out what's in it? Yeah, And 492 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I want to kind of go there 493 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: and say, like I'm allergic to something, so what's in it? 494 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: So we can kind of like try to navigate. But 495 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's not overly cucumbery, it's not overly peppery 496 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: by any means. It's just essence of tomatoes and zest. 497 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: So I'm sending it to you. Yeah, you're gonna freak. Okay, 498 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna freak you. Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna 499 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: get it. It's start. When does the season start? Like 500 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: when will tomatoes start to be bountiful? 501 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: You get another probably three four. 502 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: Weeks, Okay, all right, I'm on it. I'm gonna get 503 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: your address and we're gonna send We're gonna send it 504 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: to you. Okay. So you originally wanted to be a psychologist, 505 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: that was what you wanted to do. 506 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: I was in college studying, yes, sending therapy. 507 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: Do you believe? Do you go to therapy? I go 508 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: to therapy. I'm like calling you out but I go 509 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: to a therapist, and so do you. 510 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: I'm not the moment, but I'm a strong believer in it. 511 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: Right you had? Do you have like I don't. I'm 512 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: not at the moment. I have someone, but I don't 513 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: go every Tuesday at four o'clock, but I have someone 514 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: to call upon. 515 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: Are you do you I've got somebody to call on. Yeah, 516 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: you do. And if I end up in crisis and 517 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: have a problem that I need help with, I have 518 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: no hesitation. 519 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: No hesitation, And what do you think about this road 520 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: that took you on this journey versus being a psychologist, 521 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: which is quite different peculiar? 522 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: Well, I was in school, and I was supporting school obviously, 523 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: and and I kept having to back up because I 524 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: kept getting acting jobs, which was supporting school. So at 525 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: one point I thought, wait a minute, I'll just I'll 526 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: just keep on acting until I have my career. And 527 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: then thought, wait a minute, I'm missing something. I seem 528 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: to have a career. So at that point I dropped 529 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: out of college and just one full time. 530 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: Acting And how were you getting acting jobs when it 531 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: wasn't even your main gig. That's so hard for some people. 532 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: Because I began by modeling, and I would model in 533 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: those jobs don't last forever. And then and then my 534 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: agents said, I want to try some commercials. Okay they 535 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: pay better, Yes they do, I'll do commercials. And then 536 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: she said, whytn't to try acting? Is it okay? 537 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: What? 538 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: And you know when Universe was hiring every cute little 539 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: girl in town to be a nurse or a secretary 540 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: and got enough jobs. And I was doing a job 541 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: where I had to approach a scene and with Barry 542 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: Sullivan when he had a long monologue and bring him 543 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 2: some papers and exit the scene. And what I had 544 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: not realized was it was a long shot and that 545 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: I actually was meant to go back into the office. 546 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 2: But I actually went and sat at a chair and 547 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: watched him do his scene, and I was in the shot. 548 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: And that was when I said, uh uh, you can't 549 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: do this to people. If you want to do this, 550 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: you've got to get into some classes. So I studied 551 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: for about twelve years, and yeah, don't don't mess around 552 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: with this. You're going to be serious about it, get 553 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: serious about everything. 554 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: If you do and do it. If you don't, don't. 555 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm like that with literally every single thing 556 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: that I do. If I make a coffee, it's going 557 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: to be good. Like I don't play games otherwise, I'd 558 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: rather just lay down and sleep. Let's do it or don't. 559 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm very much like that. And do you do commercials anymore? 560 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Because I feel like your skin is perfect, and I 561 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: feel like you would be great in commercials, not that 562 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: you need another job. 563 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: Well, thanks, I don't do commercials. No, I would, but 564 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: it just hasn't come up. 565 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: I could. I think you should. I think you should 566 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: be doing like some commercials for like longevity and skin 567 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: and like I don't know, I'm just looking at you. 568 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: I would see you in a commercial. 569 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, I'll make a call when we're done. 570 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, make a call, say back, and when you go 571 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: to Cassie Bethanny Frankel says, I should be doing commercials. 572 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: I think people believe me. Not everybody likes me, deir Jo, 573 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: but people do believe me. So I feel like that 574 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: endorsement might go somewhere. You'll let me know and wait 575 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: till you get the caspacho. 576 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I'll be contacting you then. 577 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: Yes, please? Awesome? Okay, did we forget anything to be missing? Anything? 578 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: Is there anything you wanted to mention about your family, 579 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: your life, your business, your show. 580 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: I just don't like to feel like the luckiest girl 581 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: in the world. I'm living my dream, happy with my children, 582 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: happy with my job, happy with my friends, happy the 583 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: word live. 584 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: You have peace and balance. 585 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: They have peace and balance. I'm talking about piece and 586 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: balance on the show today. How funny you would say that. 587 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: That's so weird because I feel that when you're younger, 588 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: you want a little bit of chaos and things to 589 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: be a little difficult, and whatever you think is awesome 590 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: is exhilarating. And now I feel like it doesn't mean mediocrity, 591 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: but good is great, like calm is good, sleep is good, 592 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: being I mean bored, you know, hydration healthy, like just 593 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: feeling alive feels good, meaning feeling fresh. Where we used 594 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: to be, you didn't care if you didn't sleep, and 595 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: you didn't even care if you felt like half a wreck. 596 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: So I feel like peace and balance is extremely valuable, 597 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: and I do think younger people could stand to learn that. 598 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: They'll get to it. 599 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll get to exactly. 600 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: Jalapenos. I put jalapenos in my in my gaspontso. 601 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: And it's spicy or not too spicy. It's just giving 602 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: a tiny. 603 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: Kiss enough just to kick. 604 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get I'm going to send you this, 605 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: and this could be a project. We have to figure 606 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: out how to recreate it, because I'm telling you it's 607 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: another level. I cannot wait to get it. And I'm 608 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: not sending you a frozen one, because the frozen ones 609 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: are good, but they're not like the fresh ones. So 610 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to figure out how to ship it. Maybe 611 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: some dry ice. I'll do a deep dive on that 612 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: and let me know. I'll give I'll give them, they'll 613 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: give you my number, and you'll let me know if 614 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: I if I oversold. 615 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: This, okay, and and and I will in turn send 616 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: you my recipe. 617 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Okay, fabulous You purae or you like the chunks because 618 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: I like things period, that's just my own personal preference. 619 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: Purd you do like. 620 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't like chunky soups. It's like a meal. I 621 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: don't like goula. I need puree and like because it's 622 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: because it's because it's peaceful and it's balance, very nice, yes, 623 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: a piece and balance for perfect awesome. Oh, dear dress, 624 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: so nice to meet you, and thank you for coming 625 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: and congratulations on so many milestones with stars on the 626 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: Walk of Fame, five thousand episodes, piece and balance. Good 627 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: Spot Show was a lot there, beautiful healthy children. 628 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: So nice to nice. 629 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: To meet you, awesome, have a great day. She was 630 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: lovely and beautiful and sweet and from a different world. 631 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about soap opera actresses besides Lisa 632 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: Rinna and Kelly Rippa, and you know, it's nice to 633 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: learn something about something you know nothing about, about a 634 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: person you know nothing about, an industry you know nothing about, 635 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: and just you know, acknowledge someone's success in a totally 636 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: different space and time. And she was really sweet and 637 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to get her information, get her the 638 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: Good Spot Show. I never ever don't follow through on 639 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: something I say I'm going to do. That is something 640 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: that is just who I am. So I will figure 641 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: out how to ship this fresh Spot show from the 642 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: Hamptons and make sure that it's not frozen but fresh. 643 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: And I'm excited. So yeah, nice to meet dear Jehol 644 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: and go watch her show. And Peacock