1 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffor, joined as always 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: by my trust and colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field to review Wes. 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: Yet another walk off victory for green Bay, this one 6 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty seven over the Jacksonville Jaguars on the road. 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: A fourth straight win for green Bay six and two 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: record now, as I said, second straight walkoff victory, and man, 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: just whatever it takes at the end, the Packers are 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: finding a way here. 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: Survive in advance that you have to learn from it, 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: you have to improve from it. And as Tucker Craft 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: said after the game, there's certain things that have happened 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: in this first half of the season that they have 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: to very much get corrected if they're going to be 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: a championship team. If this is gonna be a team that 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: is going to make some noise in January and potentially 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: into February. But all that being said, Mike, you have 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: to win these football games. And I was reminded on 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: Sunday night and watching some of these games unfold, and 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: we'll talk about it later in the show. But obviously 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: what happened with Washington. You saw the game between Dallas 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: and San Francisco and the high stakes of that matchup 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: with both of those teams and the slow starts they've 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: been off to. You have to win games in this league. 26 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: You have to find ways through your errors, through your mistakes, 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: you have to continue to keep stacking things. And that's 28 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 2: what the Packers have done during this four game win streak. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: They were able to sweep the AFC SOL in this 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: non conference action. They were able to build some momentum 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: here through the first half of the season. And if 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: you're going to take the situation that the Packers found 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: themselves in Week nine last year in compared to this year, 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: being able to come out on the winning side of 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: this thing, I think shows the maturity of this football 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: team in the fact that it can go so many 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: different ways, whether it was the takeovers that turning those 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: takeovers into points, overcoming the loss of Jordan Love, but 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Willis going back in there, Josh Jacob's rushing for one 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven yards. Everybody pulled together in this one, 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: and as you said, it eventually came down to the 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: first time ever in NFL history, According to Elias, a 43 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: kicker in his first two games with the team, as 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: time expires, making a game wining field goal. Yeah, I mean, 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: it just doesn't get any bigger than that. 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this one was a lot shorter in that regard, 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: a chip shot for Brandon McManus to win the game. 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: But of course it starts with Malik Willis doing it 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: yet again. He comes in for Jordan Love. Love injures 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: is groin on the first possession of the game for 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the Packers. It was a third down. He's trying to 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: scramble to his right a little bit and throw back 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: across the field to Josh Jacobs and he strains the 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: groin muscle. He stays in for the rest of the 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: first half. The Packers score thirteen points, and Love is 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: in there. On the opening series of the second half, 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: he's almost at two hundred yards pass I mean, but 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: he's he's gutting it out, not clearly, not one hundred percent. 59 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: The mobility is not there. And on that opening essentially 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the opening third down of the second half for the Packers, 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: it's like, that's it. Love can't do it anymore. Malik 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Willis has to go in and this is where what 63 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I think was a remarkable turning point in this game. 64 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: And I know it came down to the last possession 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: and all that, and we'll certainly get into that. But 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Malik Willis comes into the game. He obviously this is 67 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: very different from his previous two games in relief in 68 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: place of Jordan Love, because those other two times he 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: had had the whole week of practice, they designed the 70 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: whole game plan with him playing quarterback in mind, all 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. This is emergency duty off the bench. 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Willis has to adjust, the coaching staff has to adjust. 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Everything's going on. And on that opening third down, the 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: first play he replaces Love, the Packers don't get the 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: first down and they punt the ball. So the next 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: time Malik Willis gets the football for his first full possession, 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: the Packers are trailing. Jacksonville went down long ninety plus 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: yard drive for a touchdown, took a seventeen to thirteen lead. 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: And this is the first time Malik Willis has been 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: the Packers quarterback playing with a deficit. Both of the 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: wins back in weeks two and three, Packers were never 82 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: behind in those games. And what did he do with 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: using Josh Jacobs pounding away, he scrambles once for himself, 84 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: hits a crucial third down conversion to don Tavian Wicks, 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: and then Josh Jacobs busts the long touchdown run and 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Malik Willis is in the game and the Packers aren't 87 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: trailing again. Boom, They're right back out in front. I 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: thought that drive in the third quarter showed an incredible 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: amount of just poison, moxie and whatever you want to 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: say about Malik Willis to be thrown into that situation, 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: to be losing, to be on the road, and he 92 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: put the Packers right back in front. And yes, Jacksonville 93 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: ended up tying the game later, but the Packers never 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: trailed again. 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: A few things I want to touch on here, first 96 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: and foremost, before Malik Willis even threw a pass, before 97 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: even scrambled, before even went under center, I thought it 98 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: was really apropos in the postgame locker room, how Josh 99 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: Jacobs Tuckercraft had both talked about this, the sense of 100 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: calm with the offense when Willis is entering the game. 101 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: As you said, there was a lot of adversity that hit. 102 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: The tide had turned at the end of the second 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: quarter two, Jacksonville started with four straight possessions where they 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: went three and out or had the interception as well. 105 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: In there, I think, yeah, but four straight possessions without 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: a first down, without a first down, Yeah, and here 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: they are. They start to get some momentum, and now 108 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: you're asking your backup quarterback for some magic. I even 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: tweeted it. I was like, they're asking Malik Willis for 110 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more magic here. And then what happens 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: immediately after that? He scrambles for twenty yards. They get 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: the thirty eight yard touchdown run by Josh Jacobs. But 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: before any of that happened, Tucker Kraft saying to those 114 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: guys in the huddle, Hey, we've been here before. We've 115 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: been in this situation before where we don't have Jordan Love. 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: This guy made it right, but we also need to 117 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: step up collectively to help him do his job. And 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: I felt like that's what this offense did. It was 119 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: more efficient, it ran on time, and really, with the 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: exception of just that one slant route they weren't able 121 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: to complete with Romeo Dobbs, I thought pretty much did 122 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: everything blueprint for what you want to accomplish. But what 123 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: I like the most about Malik Willis man in winning time. 124 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: The guy gets it done. They go out there again. 125 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Another adverse situation that the Jacksonville Jiggers go whatever it was, 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: ninety some yards, get down the field, they score, they 127 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: tie the game. There's less than two minutes left, and 128 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Packers are thinking, all right, we'll run here with Jacobs, 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: drain a little bit of clock off, make sure that's 130 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: in your favor so you don't go three and out 131 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: and give them too much time with two timeouts left, 132 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: and then they dial up the play for Jayden Reid 133 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: and one a brilliant play call for Matt LeFlore, a 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: brilliant job by the Packers' coaching staff and the players 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: for executing and building towards that moment, but just an 136 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: incredibly important play for Malik Heath or Balik Willis. Excuse 137 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: me to hit Reid on that play. He didn't have 138 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: to make a tight window throw, but you had to 139 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: get it there. He had to allow him to go 140 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: up make a field goal. And listening to Brandon McManus 141 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: talking to locker room afterwards about how you know you're 142 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: preparing for whatever the situation might be. Maybe fifty maybe forty, 143 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: you're not sure. And then here you are with a 144 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: twenty four yard field goal to win a football game. Michael, 145 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: this football team behind Malik Willis once again picked each 146 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: other up. 147 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah they did. They did pick each other up. And 148 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: the explanation of how the play to Jayden Reid came 149 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: about is pretty fascinating because and I've got the breakdown 150 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: of the plays both first out and second down on 151 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: that final drive. It's in my what you might have missed. 152 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: If you want to look at the clips. I'll try 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: to blame it as best I can here. Essentially earlier 154 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: in the game, the Packers had run a play action 155 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: bootleg and Jason Vrabel, the team's passing game coordinator, one 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: of a longtime offensive assistant for Matt Lafleur, he had 157 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: noticed something where he thought that Jaden Reid, coming from 158 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: essentially an inline position on the right side of the 159 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: offensive formation, leaking through the traffic and out to the left. 160 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: He thought that that would be open off of the 161 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: what they what they call a key pass or a 162 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: bootleg pass. So that play wasn't actually in the game 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: plan for this week, but based on Vrabel's suggestion, they 164 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: talked about it on the sideline, et cetera, et cetera. 165 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: They so they put it in and they had it 166 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: ready well. On that final possession, then the Packers get 167 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: the ball, a buck forty eight on the clock. They 168 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: got two timeouts. The game is tied, and Lafleur says, okay. 169 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: He calls a running play to Josh Jacobs, but it 170 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: has what's known as a can or an audible to 171 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: the pass play to Jaden Reed. He calls it on 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: first down, and they're looking for the safeties to be 173 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: in a certain alignment in the secondary for Jacksonville, for 174 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: Read's route to be open on first out. It's not there. 175 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: They don't get the look they want. They just run 176 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: the standard hand off to Jacobs. They get four yards, 177 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: same personnel, same formation, same play call, with the same 178 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: can call to the pass to Read. The Jacksonville safeties 179 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Savage and Cisco. They end up playing second down differently. 180 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Cisco comes down to help and run support where the 181 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: run to Jacob's had just gone on first down. When 182 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: Cisco comes down, Willis puts his hands up to his ears. 183 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: That's the can call. We're going to the alternate play. 184 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: The other guys on the team also put their hands 185 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: up to their ears. Everybody's on the same page. Everything 186 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: looks exactly the same, except it's a play action fake 187 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: and a bootleg and instead of blocking Jaden, Reid leaks 188 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: out and he's wide open. I mean, everything that went 189 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: into getting to that moment with the game on the line. 190 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: It's fascinating, but it's an example. It's also an example 191 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: of the complex level at which the game is played 192 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is the kind of stuff that 193 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: goes on all the time. We just don't necessarily hear 194 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: about it. We don't get all the explanations. And there 195 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: are things that happen like this where it goes wrong 196 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work and all that kind of stuff. 197 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: But the Packers pulled this off with a guy, a 198 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: quarterback who'd come off the bench in an emergency situation 199 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: and suddenly the game is on the line, on the road, 200 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: and the last thing you want to do is give 201 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: the ball back to Trevor Lawrence because he's scored ten 202 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: points on his last two possessions. It was a It 203 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: was a remarkable finish and and they're they're just there's 204 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: so many people who deserve credit for it, and ultimately 205 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Malik Willis to execute the way he did and to 206 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: put that ball on the money for Jaden Reid not 207 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: only so we could catch it, but so that he 208 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: could get all the extra yards after the catch and 209 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: get well into field goal range. Just an incredible finish 210 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: and a great win for Green Bay. 211 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't summon up any better mic and for the 212 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: packers of me. Again, it's it's like eleven different chess 213 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: games gonna go on simultaneously out there when you're trying 214 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: to figure out how all these things are going to 215 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: fit together. But what I like the most about that 216 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: play too is, you know, Jaden Reid he had he 217 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: had a couple of tough moments in this game, you know, 218 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: a couple passes where he had his hands on him 219 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: he wasn't able to bring him in. But it's a 220 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: sixty minute game, and it's why you have to have 221 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: a short memory. And Josh Jacobs even said when I 222 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: asked him about it in the locker room, you know, 223 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: watching the play from where he was standing, he thought 224 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: Jayden Reid was gone, just because the way he is, 225 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: the way he plays, and how quick he is. There's 226 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: just very few guys in the league that can catch him, 227 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: and for Green Bay then to be at what it 228 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: whatever was the fifteen yard line, they start running it again. 229 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: Chris Brooks, the reserve running back on this roster who 230 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 2: is getting more playing time in this game. The Jagors 231 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: try to let him get in the end zone because 232 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: they're out of timeouts now. The only way they have 233 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: to potentially win this game is to let the Packers 234 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: score and then try to tie it again. Yeah, or 235 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: potentially go for two. If they would get the touchdown 236 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: and Brooks has the presence of mind to go down, 237 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: it ends up being a twenty four yard field goal 238 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: and an easier field goal than if they were kicking 239 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: an extra point, and McManus and the operation was smooth 240 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: and write what it needed to be. I keep saying this, Mike. 241 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: I tweeted it the moment when I was waiting for 242 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: you to finish up with the game recap. I remember 243 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: tweeting this in the press box. I said, there's so 244 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: many moves that happened, and so much that goes down 245 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: during the offseason program and free agency and the draft 246 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: and everything. The Packers signing Brandon McManus in trading for 247 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: Malik Willis and potentially how many wins that has already 248 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: saved or produced for the Packers, depending how you look 249 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, for the total cost of a seventh 250 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: round pick next year. Again, Brian Goudicuins wants no flowers 251 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: and there is an other trophy that he is more 252 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: enamored with than any type of individual accolade that could 253 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: be thrown his way. But I'll tell you what, man, 254 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: having the pulse on your football team and having that 255 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: type of communication with your coaching staff and understanding how 256 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: the team needs to continue to get better as the 257 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: season wears on. The Willis and McManus acquisitions, I just 258 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: you cannot stress just how critical those have been for 259 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: literally ten cents on the dollar for what they paid. 260 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brian Gudiicuns would be the first one to 261 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: say that finding guys like Malik Willis when you need 262 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: to make a change at backup quarterback and Brandon McManus 263 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: when you need to make a change at kicker. This 264 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: is the pro personnel side, yes, right, scouting department, and 265 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: and there's a there's a team of them, a bunch 266 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: of great guys. And Gutakuns always wants to give them credit. 267 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: This is an example of why these guys are watching 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: everything at all times. They have they they're watching film, 269 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: they have scouting reports, they are paying attention to what 270 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: is going on everywhere around the league in terms of 271 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: who is available, who might become available, and because you 272 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: have to make these decisions fairly quickly when the need arises. 273 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: And UH again, that's just that, that's a that's a 274 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: piece of what goes on behind the scenes. That it's yes, 275 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: it's Brian Gutukunz who makes the final decision, but he's 276 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: getting a lot of input and a lot of research 277 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: and and a lot of the scouting is being done 278 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: by the other guys on his team. And to make 279 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: that collective decision for uh, for what to do. 280 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: A lot of GMS in that room too. You you 281 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: you made me write that story in the off season 282 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: for the ear. 283 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that I think well and 284 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: and and Ted Thompson had the same had the same 285 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: group of guys who did go on to become GMS elsewhere. 286 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: And Brian Gudakountz now has that team of guys that 287 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: they're going to be you know, as they say, running 288 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: their own show pretty soon. You know, in the in 289 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: the Ted Thompson area, you had John Schneider and Reggie 290 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: McKenzie and John Dorsey, those guys, and now it's you know, John, 291 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Eric Sullivant, John wi Jakowski, Mill Hendrickson, you know Williams, 292 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: you know Richie Williams. 293 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 294 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: All these guys are there. They're going to get a 295 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: chance someday to to be in charge of their own shop. 296 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: So it uh, it speaks to uh to what the 297 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Packers have here, sort of behind the curtains, so to speak. 298 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: We do need to get to where things are on 299 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: the injury front. Matt Lafleur did not really have an 300 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: update on quarterback Jordan Love on Monday, but the way 301 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: he talked about things, uh, Jordan Love has not necessarily 302 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: been ruled out for Sunday against the Lions. It's a 303 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: it's a wait and see kind of thing. They're gonna 304 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: see where Love is at the end of the week 305 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: and they'll make a decision there. But just the fact 306 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: that that's even part of the conversation is obviously tremendous 307 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: news for the Packers. Other guys who exited this game, 308 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs went out right at the end, which is 309 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: why Chris Brooks was in the game, and then he 310 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: sort of took the dive inside the five yard line 311 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: to keep the clock running. Jayi Alexander got hurt on 312 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: the game tying touchdown pass to Evan Ingram and Evan Williams, 313 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: the rookie safety. He had left the game in the 314 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: first half with a hamstring injury. Not a lot of 315 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: updates necessarily to pass along, although I'll say this, Josh 316 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: Jacobs wanted to go back into the game and they 317 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: just they held him out and said, you know, no, 318 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: we Brooks will take these last couple of handoffs as 319 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: we kill the clock. That's what we're going to do here. 320 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: So by all accounts, hopefully Jacobs is okay. Not really 321 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: sure on Alexander or Williams. I know there are some 322 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: media reports out there and whatnot. Lafleur didn't say anything 323 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: specifically about their chances other than obviously the Packers would 324 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: be in a tough spot defensively if they're missing one 325 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: or both of those guys with the high powered, high 326 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: flying Detroit Lions coming in. But it's going to be 327 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: a week where we're going to be watching the injury 328 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: report and seeing where things go here for Green Bay. 329 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 2: It's funny how every coach to some extent, has their 330 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: own phrases or little statements. I remember Mike McCarthy back 331 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: in the day was always, you know, so and so 332 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: is going to be stressed to play this week. Yeah, 333 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: you know, he didn't want to go into all the things, 334 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: but sometimes you use that stress to play. And one 335 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: of the things I've noticed with Matt Lafleur, when when 336 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: things are good, he doesn't want to go into everything. 337 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to talk about it. He mentioned he 338 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: still needed to talk to the training staff, but he 339 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: said Jordan Love was in good spirits on Monday, and 340 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: if you go back and look at some of the 341 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: track record, Matt has said that type of stuff. I'm 342 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: not guaranteed anybody's playing on Sunday, but I will say 343 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: for what I thought that could have potentially been when 344 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: he left the game, I remember telling you, and I 345 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: relayed that too, that it was a groin injury. You 346 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: even double checked with me on that, just because we're 347 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: thinking knee, we're thinking calf, we're thinking something else. Groin 348 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: injuries can be pretty severe too. You always worry about 349 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: the core muscle issues and the sports hernias, but the 350 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: fact that it wasn't knee related, I think first and 351 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: foremost was a sigh relief that there were no setbacks 352 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: with that. But again, we'll see where the week goes 353 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: on everything. But the fact is, man, you're seeing some 354 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: of these things happen in the league right now. Where 355 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: the Detroit game, you know, Aiden Hutchinson's sitting there with 356 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: his leg up there, everyone giving him a big ovation, 357 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: but he's out of the cards for them the rest 358 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: of the season. We saw what happened with Christian Darisol 359 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: last week for the Minnesota Vikings. And it is a 360 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: league in a sport that takes its toll on a 361 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: football team. So for the Green Bay Packers at the 362 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: very least, we'll see again how things go. But with 363 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: Jai Air, with Evan Williams or Jordan Love probably all 364 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: top ten top players for this team. The fact that 365 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: we're not worrying about the worst case scenario there, I think. 366 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: I hate to keep using that Dodger bullet analogy, but 367 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: you do feel somewhat better that it's not anything more significant. 368 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, well, you mentioned it earlier a few other 369 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: things that we do need to get to as far 370 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: as reviewing this game. Josh Jacobs twenty five carries one 371 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven yards two touchdowns, including that thirty 372 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: eight yarder, which I thought was one of the one 373 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: of the most remarkable touchdown runs I've seen in quite 374 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: a while. The blocking initially at the point of attack 375 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: was obviously really good, but then he makes the one 376 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: guy miss in the hole with incredible footwork. Then he 377 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: breaks another tackle as a guy is trying to grab 378 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: him by the shoulders, and then he's off to the 379 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: races with getting a nice downfield block from Watson. The 380 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: more I watched Josh Jacobs, I haven't seen I haven't 381 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: seen a running back. And this is no knock on 382 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: Ryan Grant or Eddie Lacy or Aaron Jones or Jamal 383 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Williams or any of these guys. But I have not 384 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: seen a running back in Green Bay with the combination 385 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: of the vision and the footwork that Josh Jacobs has, 386 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: because Jacobs is not how shall I say, Aaron Jones 387 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: always look like a slippery running back. Like the way 388 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: he ran. He was hard, he was hard to tackle. 389 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: He had he had a quickness, and a slipperiness to him. 390 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs doesn't quite have that. But what he does 391 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: with his feet to make guys miss and to get 392 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: tacklers off balance and then to accelerate to get the 393 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: yardage that he can, he's a He's just he's a 394 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: different type of runner. But man, he is fun to 395 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: watch that he is. He is more talented than I 396 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: ever knew previously, whether it was you know, at Alabama 397 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: with the Raiders seeing him in person, and now seeing 398 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: him every game for the Green Bay Packers, I couldn't 399 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: be more impressed with what he brings to the table. 400 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: Here's the way I work through these situations now, because 401 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: I don't want to make it about comparables, because anytime 402 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: we see something nice about somebody makes sound like it 403 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: was something a detriment to the others. 404 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: Exactly, And that's not what I'm doing here either. 405 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: What I'm doing and what my strategy is now is 406 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: let's pretend that Josh Jacobs is the only running back 407 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers have ever had. No Paul Horning, 408 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: no Jim Taylor, no Aaron you know, Jones, Amon Green, 409 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: this is the only guy. So here we are. You're 410 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: watching him play the first thing I thought, and again 411 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: he had to work through some stuff, he said. He 412 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: was telling the coaches, hey, trust me, trust me. Because 413 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: the first happened that he had thirty six rushing yards. 414 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: He had ninety six in the second half. He was 415 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: seeing the holes, he was seeing what he was looking for. 416 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: Even when he was going down, he felt like the 417 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: big play was still there. And even on the big play, 418 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 2: the thirty eight yard touchdown, he broke a couple of 419 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: rules to make that happen. Yeah, because he wanted to 420 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: be able to exercise that and be able to try 421 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: to find, you know, a touchdown. But here's the thing 422 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: about Josh Jacobs, and this is what I've this is 423 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: why I figured out he's a first round pick. He 424 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: went to Alabama, he as all these things that go 425 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: for him. The guy's a professional football player. The way 426 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: he approaches this game, it's like watching a sign test 427 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: work in figuring out what he wants to do and 428 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: what certain traits he wants to utilize on any given play. 429 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: You know, whether it's diagnosing what's happening at the line 430 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: of scrimmage in one cutting, whether it's him with kind 431 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: of that jump cut that he does, or sometimes the 432 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 2: guy can just go north and south on you and 433 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: push you forward for seven yards. That has happened plenty 434 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: of times this season too. Yea, and he does it again. 435 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: We'll see how everything looks this week on the injury 436 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 2: report front. But he does it while being an incredibly 437 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: durable force at that position. And when you look at 438 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: Brian Goodekoin's tract record for wanting to sign free agents, 439 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: durability is a big part of that. So while he 440 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: was an All Pro, and while he was a rushing champion, 441 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: while he had all these things going for him with 442 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: the Raiders, the fact that he did all this while 443 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: being a workhorse belcow back and being able to still 444 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: improve throughout that workload, I think it just shows you 445 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: the type of athlete Green Bay Packers were bringing into 446 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: their program independent of anybody else who's ever carried the 447 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: football for him this twenty twenty four football team, Josh 448 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: Jacobs is the right answer. 449 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to talk about the defense a little 450 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: bit too here because this was this was just it 451 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: was a strange, weird day. I thought. On defense, we 452 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier the first four times the Jaguars had the ball, 453 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: they didn't get a single first downright, Packers defense was 454 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: on top of it. They were flying high. It was 455 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: looking like a continuation and a building off of what 456 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: we had seen against Arizona, against Houston and getting to 457 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: this point and then all of a sudden, it wasn't 458 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: just that the Jaguars started moving the ball it started. 459 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: It was that they started taking chunks of the field. 460 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: The number of explosive plays, the twenty plus yard pass plays. 461 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: They got a few of them at the end of 462 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: the first halt when the Jaguars got ten points before 463 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: halftime on their last two possessions, and then we saw 464 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: it again at the end of the game late in 465 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter where they got ten points again and honestly, 466 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: Wes might have had two touchdowns, It might have had 467 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: fourteen points there if not for the third down shotgun snap. 468 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: That was a bad snap that bounces off Trevor Lawrence's 469 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: leg and they just have to fall on it, right 470 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: over it and then they have to kick the field goal. 471 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: So they didn't even get the opportunity to convert on 472 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: third down there near the red zone because because of 473 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: the bad snap. But it was just it was this 474 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: up and down like jekylin high day. You know, two 475 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: massive takeaways. Xavier McKinney gets his sixth interception, still leading 476 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: the NFL in that category. Edgrin Cooper makes a great 477 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: play getting the strip sack backed by the goal line. 478 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: Devonte Wyatt, you know, somebody called it like a musical 479 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: chairs type of gam like he bumped the Jaguars lineman 480 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: out of the way to recover. It sets up an 481 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: easy touchdown Malik Willis to Tucker Craft. So though you know, 482 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: two takeaways, that's that gave the Packers fourteen points, set 483 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: up fourteen points on the day. There's a lot of 484 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: good things the Packers defense did, but there are a 485 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: lot of things that, you know, you're kind of scratching 486 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: your head going, you know, what is with suddenly giving 487 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: up eight pass pigs of twenty plus yards in the 488 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: same game when all these other good things were also happening. 489 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: It was just it's strange. It's hard to get a 490 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: handle on exactly what was going on out excuse me. 491 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: Ten explosive plays for the Packers or that they allowed 492 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: in this game, including some of the rushing stuff. Here's 493 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: what stood out to me the most. So you look 494 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 2: at this as like a verdict right with the jury, 495 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: who was giving what type of evidence and who was 496 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: ultimately going to be the winner. From the Packers' perspective, 497 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: it was the fact that they did come out on 498 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 2: ahead on the turnover margin, the fact that they turned 499 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: those turnovers into fourteen points whereas the Jacksonville Jaguars immediately 500 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: gave it back, and the fact that Green Bay was 501 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: able to be a little bit more efficient in some 502 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: of the situational stuff, not necessarily red zone and goal 503 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: to go, but some of the other aspects of this game. 504 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: The Jaguars went zero for eight to start this game 505 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: on third down and really struggled to get into their operation, 506 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: but they overcame that with some of those explosive plays 507 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: late in the matchup. Despite losing Christian Kirk to a 508 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: broken collar bone and then also you know Thomas leaving, 509 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior leaving with the chest injury. Trevor Lawrence 510 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: was exceptional down the stretch, but the Green Bay Packers 511 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 2: just gave him too many holes and too many openings 512 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: with which to work. And as Matt Lafleur said, I mean, 513 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things you can diagnose for what 514 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: went wrong there in the second half of green Bay. 515 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: But the amount of times that green Bay was in 516 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: cover two in trying to get them to play in 517 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 2: front of them, trying to hit the check downs dictating 518 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: the terms of the game. But then they're missing tackles 519 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: and those things are turning into explosive plays. It wasn't 520 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: good enough. So that's the lesson the Packers have to learn. 521 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 2: Fortunately for them, they did have the comeback with the takeaways. 522 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: They were very pragmatic about how they utilize those. Edgrin 523 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: Cooper with thirty four snaps, has eight tackles, a huge 524 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: pass deflection on a trail route on the play in 525 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: which Kirk got hurt and then also punches the ball 526 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: out for the old only sack of the game ends 527 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: up becoming a strip sack that leads to seven points. 528 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: Very opportunistic game for green Bay. But what's what's coming 529 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: on the horizon now against the Detroit Lions. I mean, 530 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: you also have to be very much cautious here about 531 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: how you proceed. 532 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and with you know, a lot of fans are asking, well, 533 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: you know, where was where was the pass rush and 534 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: everything that you know that the Packers had shown against 535 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: Arizona against Houston leading up to this, with with the 536 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks not being comfortable and all that, sometimes the other 537 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: team just does a better job. I mean, it's it's 538 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: not like it's not like the Packers weren't dialing up 539 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: some of the same stuff that they do with the 540 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: pass rush. We saw Minnesota, Minnesota for the for the 541 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: entire first half of that game at Lambellfield, they just 542 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: handled everything that green Bay's defense was thrown at him. 543 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I thought Jackson Jacksonville's offensive line they handled green Bay's 544 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: pass rush much like much like Minnesota did. Unlike Arizona 545 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: and Houston that had a hard time with the stunts 546 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: and you know, and and that's you know, those guys 547 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: breaking through on on on, you know, the the games 548 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: and stunts up front, and that's how those quarterbacks got uncomfortable. 549 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes that's gonna happen. But then also what happened in 550 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: this game is the couple of times that Jeff Halfley 551 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: did dial up a blitz. It's like, Okay, the foreman 552 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: rush isn't getting there. You got to pick your spots 553 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: and send a fifth guy, maybe send a sixth guy. 554 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence Burned, I mean, you know, he saw he saw 555 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: it coming. He got the ball out, you know, to 556 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: somebody who was in open space, you know, the vacated 557 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: space where the blitzer comes from. Lawrence was on top 558 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: of that. So just suddenly saying, okay, we're not getting 559 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: any pressure. We got to keep dialing up blitz is 560 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: that wasn't going to be the answer because because Trevor 561 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence had made the Packers pay a couple of times, 562 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: so they got into a tough spot defensively there where 563 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: the foreman rush wasn't getting home, but but Lawrence was 564 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: taking care of him against the blitz and it just 565 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: it just becomes a matter of survival at that point, 566 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: and and it's tough. Fortunately, when the Jaguars did get 567 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: things going there in the fourth quarter, then ultimately they 568 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: didn't get the ball back. The game didn't go to overtime. 569 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: The Packers were able to kill the entire clock and 570 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: getting those last points, they didn't get the ball back, 571 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: and sometimes that's sometimes that's what it takes to win 572 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: in this league. 573 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: And why did it happen because of the way green 574 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: Bay started the game, and it's why it's a four quarter, 575 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 2: sixty minute football game. And the hole that the Jacksonville 576 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: Jaguars found themselves in. Even though it wasn't huge by 577 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: any means, it's what enabled Green Bay to make a 578 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: few plays there in the second half that ultimately tipped 579 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: the scales in their favor. 580 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, a little bit of sponsor business here. 581 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: West Sirius XMNFOL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up 582 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: to the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need 583 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, three sixty five And at Cousin Subs, 584 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: we have something for everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, 585 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 586 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: with your favorite sub or sub and a bowl Cousin 587 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: Subs fifty plus years of better. All right, Looking around 588 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: the league weeks week eight. Excuse me, I was about 589 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: to say week six for some reason. I don't know why. 590 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: This is why I was going to say six, because 591 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: including the Packers game, there were six games wes in 592 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: which there was a score in the final minute the 593 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: final sixty seconds of regulation where the lead changed hands. 594 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: Six games in the league in one week, which is 595 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: actually tied for the most in the league in one 596 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: week of games since the league Mercher in nineteen seventy 597 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: was that the Ackers loll in that the Packers game 598 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: was involved in that. And then, of course, as you 599 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: had alluded to earlier, Washington defeating the Chicago Bears on 600 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: the hail Mary in the Nation's Capital, and we were 601 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: all we were all watching that on our little TV 602 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: screens on the flight, on the flight coming back, and 603 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: that was quite the Uh, it was quite the reaction 604 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: from everyone on the plane. It was probably about fifteen 605 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: to twenty seconds later than everybody else's re action around 606 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: the country because of the delay of the satellite fever. Yeah, 607 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: for the live of the quote unquote live TV broadcast. 608 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: But but man, Jade and Daniels. Strange game in Washington, 609 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: with the Commanders kicking a bunch of field goals, they 610 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: couldn't punch in any touchdowns. They kick a whole bunch 611 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: of field goals. The Bears can't do anything until late 612 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Then the Bears finally get on 613 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: the board, they blow another chance to score. Then they 614 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: do get the go ahead points in the final in 615 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: the final minute, but they left just enough time for 616 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels to try a hail Mary. And we 617 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, we don't need to get into everything with 618 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: Tyreek Stevenson. But the bottom line is the Bears botched it. 619 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: The Bears botched it on the hail mary. They didn't 620 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: knock the ball down, they tipped it. And not only 621 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: did they tip it, they had nobody guarding the tip man. 622 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: Noah Brown is standing all alone in the back of 623 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: the end zund and a successful hail mary. That'll go 624 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: down as as one of the plays of the year 625 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: and felt. 626 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you if you're your defensive coach at 627 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: any level of football, that that goes down as teaching 628 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 2: tape for how not to defend a hail mary. I mean, 629 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: it's just it's true. I mean under fash. The other 630 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: thing about that was you weren't even in the end zone, 631 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: like I could see it, like the like the uh 632 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: Randall Cobb went against the Giants many years ago in 633 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: the playoff game. Randall was at the back of the end. 634 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the very ball came out. 635 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, Noah Brown was one of the only people 636 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: actually standing in the end zone when he caught that passage. 637 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: Which is all the more reason why you can't have 638 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: somebody standing there all by himself and from what I've 639 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: heard and what I've read, it sounded like Tyreek Stevenson 640 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: who was kind of off in his own little world 641 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: for a while there. He's the guy who's supposed to 642 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: be boxing out the tip man, or at least to 643 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: be there in case the ball is tips so that 644 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: there isn't an uncontested catch of the tip. That's exactly 645 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: what happened, and uh and Washington wins a game. 646 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: Instead, he ended up being the stocked into to his malone. 647 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it just it's terrible the way that worked out. 648 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: I feel terrible for the young man because from all 649 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: accounts it sounds like it's a good dude, but it 650 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: just made a huge mental air on that game. Without 651 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: perseverating on everything that Bears did wrong, though, I do 652 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: want to say something about Jayden Daniels because I said 653 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: this to a good friend of mine, Scott Vencey, on 654 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: the way home that night after I was driving home 655 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: from the airport. I am already ready to put Jade 656 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: and Daniels in the elite category for quarterbacks. I don't 657 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: want to talk about rookies. I don't want to talk 658 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: about young player. I'm talking about legitimate, elite quarterbacks. And 659 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: this is why I'm willing to say this. He proved 660 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: in this game, and he's done at intervals of the season, 661 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: but he definitely proved in this game. I can put 662 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: this entire team on my back and win a football game. 663 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: And Mike, there are so few guys in this league, 664 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: regardless of position, but definitely quarterbacks that can do that 665 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: where it's like I am going to will you to 666 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: a win, a w a little tally in that win margin. 667 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: And Daniels is that guy. So even when things aren't 668 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: going right, he has so much arm talent and the 669 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: fact that he was able to pull that off after 670 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 2: basically trying to execute the Aaron Rodgers scramble drill and 671 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: then having to roll it back. Yeah, it's just can't 672 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: say enough about him in Washington. For as much as 673 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: we talked about the Green Bay Packers being the outpost 674 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: of the NFL in the early nineties, late eighties, early nineties, 675 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: that's what the Washington Commanders have been here for the 676 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: last six seven eight years. Really. 677 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, they've been out in the wilderness. 678 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: There's a lot of hype on them right now and rightfully. 679 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, Well, quickly the NFC North as things 680 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: stand right now, the Detroit Lions coming off a blowout 681 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: win over the Titans. We can talk about that more 682 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: on our next show. They are six and one on 683 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: top of the division, the Packers right behind at six 684 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: and two. The Minnesota Vikings lost two games in a 685 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: span of five days. They are five and two, yep. 686 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: And the Chicago Bears, with the Hail Mary defeat in DC, 687 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 1: they are four and three. So lambeau Field this Sunday 688 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: and we'll get into it all in our next show. 689 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: But the top two teams in the NFC North going 690 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: ahead to head for the first of two times this season. 691 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Six and one versus six and two. This is what 692 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: you put yourself in these positions for, is to have 693 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: these opportunities. And the Packers are a team kind of 694 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: piecing it together, and there's all these questions about the 695 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: injury report and everything else. And the Lions are a 696 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: team that is just rolling right now. They are a 697 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: freight train coming down the tracks. I'm going to be 698 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: a heck of a week and a heck of a 699 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: matchup on Sunday. 700 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: I'll save all my comments on the Lions for Thursday's 701 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: show because we'll need something to talk about. Yeah, but 702 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: their win was incredibly impressive. Certainly the Los Angeles Rams 703 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: doing the Packers a favor, some controversy a little bit 704 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the game, but the Rams still 705 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: did have control that thing late to be able to 706 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: now send the Vikings to a second straight loss. But 707 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 2: why is this so important? Because the Green Bit Packers 708 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: are six and two, but they're two and two in 709 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: conference right now. Tampa Bay Buccaneers are on the outside 710 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: looking into the playoff picture. They're four and four. They're 711 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: four and two in the NFC. Those are the type 712 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: of things you got to keep an eye on as 713 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 2: you look towards tiebreakers and other things here down the stretch. 714 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: But the Green Bit Packers did exactly what you and 715 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: I have been saying for the last month. Mike. You 716 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 2: have to take care of business. You couldn't work try 717 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: about any more of these NFC North opponents until they're 718 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: finally here. Well, guess what, man, This Sunday, Lambeufield, the 719 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions are coming to town. Yeah, and we'll see 720 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: who's all out there, and it'll probably be a take 721 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: the entire week to see who's available. But a massive, 722 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: massive opportunity the green Bait Packers have ever earned by 723 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 2: being able to reel off these four straight victories. 724 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: Yep. And we will get into it on our next 725 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: show in a couple of days, but for now, we'll 726 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: call it a rap on this edition of Packers n Scripting. 727 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 728 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com for Wesiam Mike. Oh wait, 729 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: hold on, oh, we got to talk about the draft. 730 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: Hold on, mark your calendars, folks. Yep, I almost forgot 731 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: you'd lose your job. I would mark your calendars. The 732 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five NFL Draft is coming to Green Bay. 733 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: Be among the thousands of football fans cheering on their 734 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: team's picks by joining us April twenty four through April 735 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty twenty five. Visit green Bay dot com 736 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: slash Draft twenty five for more information. 737 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: We should just start doing that. During the intro, I'm 738 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: Mike alongside my partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We are 739 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: here from our Packers studios to let you know that 740 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft is coming to Green Bay, 741 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: and then we can start the show. 742 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning. In everybody. We will see you 743 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: next time.