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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much at Late Kick Josh. Anytime

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Speaker 1: over twelve hundred yards, nine touchdowns, but he waned at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. So what if they don't.

431
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Speaker 1: What if they start hot? What if they finish hot?

432
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Speaker 1: You've obviously got Heisman consideration there, but also if they're

433
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Speaker 1: not front loaded, if they have consistency and performance over

434
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Speaker 1: the entire season. They face four top twenty five teams,

435
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Speaker 1: only one of them in the top ten. Missouri faces

436
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Speaker 1: Alabama the twenty sixth of October. That's the only preseason

437
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Speaker 1: top ten odds team. We don't have an ap pole

438
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Speaker 1: out yet, but we're talking fan duel odds to win

439
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Speaker 1: the national title. They play four teams in the top

440
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Speaker 1: twenty five, there's only one in the top ten. Now,

441
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of other good teams there. Going

442
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Speaker 1: to College Station not easy. Going to South Carolina and

443
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State back to back not easy. They got Oklahoma

444
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Speaker 1: at home. None of it's easy. But if you all

445
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Speaker 1: of a sudden tell me, yeah, that wide receiver quarterback

446
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Speaker 1: duo is going to be fire, well all of a sudden,

447
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a team that's going to play a

448
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Speaker 1: ton of one possession games this year. Anyway, they got

449
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Speaker 1: a really good shot to make the playoffs themselves. Those

450
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Speaker 1: are just some what ifs floating around my mind. You've

451
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Speaker 1: got what ifs and you've got shopping lists, then I

452
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Speaker 1: know we're floating around your household right now, you've got

453
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Speaker 1: back to school coming up, you've got back to sports

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Speaker 1: coming up. Why not just head over to Academy Sports

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Speaker 1: back to maybe the back to life tour. Maybe that's

471
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Speaker 1: what we should call this false tour. All right, I

472
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Speaker 1: got Dan Lanning coming up on the show in just

473
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Speaker 1: a few minutes, So stay locked in for that. I

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Speaker 1: had one of you asked me a question. I tried

475
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Speaker 1: to get it in on the show the other day,

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Speaker 1: but I ran out of time. And it's okay because

477
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Speaker 1: it's kind of evergreen, so we can ask it today.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any inclination as to which direction Alabama's

479
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Speaker 1: defense is going to go this year? Caine Walmack is

480
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator there. For those unfamiliar, he was the

481
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Speaker 1: head coach at South Alabama and left there to be

482
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator under Kaylin Debor. And there was a

483
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Speaker 1: weird thing that had happened with BAMA defense over the

484
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Speaker 1: past several years. So from two thousand and nine to

485
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, their defensive numbers ranked second, fifth, first, first, fifth, twelfth, third, first, first,

486
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Speaker 1: then from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three sixteenth, twenty, first, thirty, second, seventh, eighteenth, sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: Now that obviously overlapped with Alabama going a much different

488
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Speaker 1: direction offensively, and there's always the theory out there you're

489
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Speaker 1: not going to do one thing with an offense, but

490
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Speaker 1: keep your defense at the level that it was. It's

491
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Speaker 1: kind of a Ceesaw effect. Yeah, I buy into that.

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Speaker 1: So that was then this is now You're bringing in

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Speaker 1: another high pierate offensive attack here in Kaitlin de Bourn

494
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Speaker 1: and Nick Sheridan running that offense there, and everyone expects

495
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Speaker 1: points from Alabama. What levels the defense going to play out?

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Speaker 1: Will the defense let them run the ball this year?

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Speaker 1: The way they want this is almost like a what if?

498
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Speaker 1: Because I picture Alabama in my mind, given the personnel

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Speaker 1: they have, given the staff that just came in, I think,

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Speaker 1: run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. I

501
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Speaker 1: think Jalen Milroe can do that for you. I think

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Speaker 1: they got three running backs I would trust to do that.

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Speaker 1: I think I trust, especially the interior of that offensive line,

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Speaker 1: I trust to be able to do that. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of the trust I have. I don't have a

506
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Speaker 1: ton of trust at least now in established proven playmaking

507
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Speaker 1: ability at wide receiver. They got capability, and Jeremy Benard

508
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Speaker 1: coming in from Washington, Yes, to an extent, he's proven.

509
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Speaker 1: They don't have returning thousand yard reception type guys. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I think about. But you don't play that

511
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Speaker 1: style if you're playing catch up, and defense goes a

512
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Speaker 1: long way in providing you that cover to be able

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Speaker 1: to play that style. Think about Michigan last year. Is

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Speaker 1: Michigan running the ball thirty times in a row against

515
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Speaker 1: Penn State if Penn State's leading seventeen to thirteen, I

516
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Speaker 1: really don't think so. So it's fair, I think. And

517
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Speaker 1: it's also fair to think about the depth they have there.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're used to rolling into a season and

519
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Speaker 1: looking at Alabama, even if you're not picking them to

520
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Speaker 1: win it all, you say, well, man, they got this dude,

521
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Speaker 1: this dude, this dude, and this dude. Future first rounders

522
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Speaker 1: on defense? Do they have that guy or those guys?

523
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Speaker 1: Caleb Downs would have been that he's gone got good

524
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Speaker 1: players there? But is there a Dallas Turner on the

525
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Speaker 1: edge there? If there is, it comes from you know,

526
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Speaker 1: guys whose names you don't know right now. And look,

527
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: they got former five star guys littering that roster like

528
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Speaker 1: Yonz Pierre Keon Keeley. Those guys are there. So it's

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Speaker 1: not that they lack talent, they just lack proven talent

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Speaker 1: on the back end. You heard Nick Saban himself last

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Speaker 1: week at SEC media Day say their frontline guy's good.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they've got the depth if they

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Speaker 1: get banged up I don't know if they have the depth,

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Speaker 1: which is crazy cause Nick Saban built that roster, but

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Speaker 1: they don't have the depth. Well, okay, that means over

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Speaker 1: under nine and a half wins. If you were to

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Speaker 1: look at that, you may say, oh, I could see

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Speaker 1: Bama winning ten or eleven. I'll take the over. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're an odds maker like at FanDuel, you have

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Speaker 1: to put that number out considering injury will happen. You

541
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Speaker 1: just don't know when, you don't know where, but it

542
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Speaker 1: will happen. So when I look at Bama, I just

543
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Speaker 1: need them to be top twenty defensively this year. You

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Speaker 1: flown in that ten to twenty range. That's realistic and

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Speaker 1: that would be good. Twenty to twenty five even pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You get below that and then you're probably asking your

547
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Speaker 1: offense to do little more than ideally you'd want to

548
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Speaker 1: ask them too. You're playing some uncomfortable games. But they

549
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Speaker 1: still have the third best odds right now to win

550
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Speaker 1: the SEC Championship, and it's not too dissimilar from the

551
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Speaker 1: odds market to win it all. So your guess is

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Speaker 1: as good as Vegas is right now as to what

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Speaker 1: they'll be defensively. We had another question, and we actually

554
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Speaker 1: have photographic evidence of this one, and I did want

555
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Speaker 1: to get to this one. And we'll have Dan Landing

556
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Speaker 1: coming up in just a few minutes. William from Sumter,

557
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Speaker 1: South Carolina, he said, why does Florida State get treated

558
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Speaker 1: differently than Colorado for using the transfer portal? Very similarly

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Speaker 1: Ole miss as well. Well, I do agree that Colorado

560
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Speaker 1: gets viewed differently. I do agree that people talk about

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Speaker 1: him differently, but I don't think it's for the reasons

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Speaker 1: that you said there, William. I think it's because I

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Speaker 1: think it's called it's been differently, you know, Florida State.

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Speaker 1: Just to give you an idea, Florida State under Mike

565
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Speaker 1: norvel they came in there, and yes they did lean

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Speaker 1: on the portal pretty heavily, but they didn't lean on

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Speaker 1: it to build their team. They leaned on it to

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Speaker 1: supplement at the outset. But all the while, Mike Norvella

569
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Speaker 1: has preached high school recruiting, high school recruiting, high school recruiting,

570
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Speaker 1: and that's now what they've started to lean on a

571
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Speaker 1: little bit more. Colorado and Dion have never preached that.

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Speaker 1: I've almost referred to Colorado as a grand experiment more

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Speaker 1: so than a program, because a program I think about

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Speaker 1: as being built on high school recruiting. You know, like,

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Speaker 1: if Brett McMurphy's writing about you out there, and I

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Speaker 1: say that because we're in the shadow of him right now,

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Speaker 1: and he's talking about your program, he's probably not talking

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Speaker 1: about guys you got from the portal. He's talking about

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Speaker 1: guys that you got from high school, and maybe they

580
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Speaker 1: disappear for two years, and all of a sudden, now

581
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Speaker 1: they've read shirted and they're ready to go. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: not how Colorado's been built. That's not how Dion ever

583
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: set out to build it. That is how they set

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Speaker 1: out to build it at Florida State. That's how they

585
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: even set out to build it at ole Miss. They

586
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: used the portal heavily, but just to give you an

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Speaker 1: idea of the gulf between those two, those two concepts,

588
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three and twenty four cycles, Colorado took

589
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: ninety four kids out of the portal, Miss took forty seven.

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Speaker 1: FSU took twenty nine. To take it a step further.

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Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty three portal cycle, Colorado took fifty

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Speaker 1: two kids. That is more than the second, third, and

593
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Speaker 1: fourth teams combined took so there is no comparison to

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Speaker 1: be clear with what Dion's been doing versus what Florida

595
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Speaker 1: State role miss had been doing. That's the first part.

596
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Speaker 1: The second part is I think it makes people uncomfortable

597
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: and therefore they look for a default reason to criticize

598
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Speaker 1: Deon Sanders. I also think maybe Deon Sanders' personality just

599
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: makes him prone to folks wanting to criticize him. I

600
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: think that maybe if a guy who who was buddy

601
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Buddy and did every talk show out there and returned

602
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Speaker 1: every text message and made himself available to everyone were

603
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Speaker 1: to take this approach, I think folks would view it differently.

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Speaker 1: Some of the same ones who criticized criticized Deon Sanders

605
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: would probably praise whoever else was doing as a maverick

606
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: and as a visionary, and nothing would be different about it.

607
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: There are a lot of folks who are really, really

608
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Speaker 1: petty in this business. Got if you got reasons for

609
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: disliking Dion or not not being about what they're about

610
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Speaker 1: at Colorado, I don't really care. That's fine, everyone's got

611
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Speaker 1: an opinion. But if I look at it and you're

612
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Speaker 1: asking me, is there bias against Colorado with how people

613
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Speaker 1: talk about them portaling versus how folks talk about FSU

614
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Speaker 1: and Ole Miss No. It could be that you have

615
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Speaker 1: my mentality. It could be that you just really believe

616
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Speaker 1: that ultimate sustainability has to be built through high school recruiting,

617
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Speaker 1: and you've never seen anyone try and do what Colorado's doing. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: you may not have great confidence that it's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with hating on Dion, quite

620
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Speaker 1: the opposite. Love Deon Sanders, love everything he does for

621
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Speaker 1: the sport, Love what he's about. I got no problem

622
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Speaker 1: with any of that. It's just a philosophical thing with me.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to watch him try and prove it wrong.

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Speaker 1: By the way, but that would be the first time

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Speaker 1: that we've ever seen it. So if someone's got doubts

626
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Speaker 1: about it, I don't think it has to be biased.

627
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: I think you're just in a common sensical standpoint, looking

628
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Speaker 1: and saying, yeah, this is way different than even the

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Speaker 1: next most radical approach. Is all right, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: Bold Predictions, and then we'll get to Dan Lanning. Bold

631
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Speaker 1: Predictions is a segment that we have been doing year

632
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Speaker 1: over year and now the bold predictions on this show

633
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: come from you, and they are the things that you

634
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Speaker 1: claim you believe enough where you'd put your own money

635
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Speaker 1: on it. This year, and we got some boldness tonight

636
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Speaker 1: on the show. First up, let's go to Gainsville, Florida.

637
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Speaker 1: We were there a couple of months ago, and Greg

638
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: from Chicago said Florida will sneak into the playoffs as

639
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: the eleventh seed. Greg, I'm gonna do you a favor.

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Speaker 1: This is already bold enough. I'm not even going to

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Speaker 1: hold you to the eleven seed because if they make

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Speaker 1: it as the twelve seed, I'm not gonna say you

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Speaker 1: were wrong. So let's just say Florida makes the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Even then, that's a nine point five on the boldness scale.

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Speaker 1: They've got three straight losing seasons to go from that

646
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Speaker 1: to playoff against this schedule is a bridge a little

647
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Speaker 1: bit too far from me now, Greg, if it does

648
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Speaker 1: happen to nine and a half, it's not a ten.

649
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Speaker 1: So it could happen. If it does happen, there is

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Speaker 1: a returning quarterback there. It'll probably be because of that.

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Speaker 1: They've got back to back top fifteen recruiting classes. They've

652
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Speaker 1: been top ten in portal. They've got a top twenty

653
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Speaker 1: five returning production roster, and they've got a top twenty

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Speaker 1: talent roster overall. This is the formula with a lighter

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Speaker 1: schedule for a team to make a quantum leap. The

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Speaker 1: thing about Florida is their output could be leaps and

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Speaker 1: bounds better than it has been and then be a

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Speaker 1: six and six or seven and five team, just because

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Speaker 1: that's what this schedule dictates, and that's not good enough

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Speaker 1: for a playoff. I wonder if Florida is the one

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Speaker 1: team in the country that, if there's a lot of chaos,

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Speaker 1: might have some on the fringe calling for them to

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Speaker 1: be a playoff considered team at eight and four, which

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Speaker 1: I know drive some of you bonkers, and that's fine,

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Speaker 1: But Florida making the playoff, that's a nine point five

666
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Speaker 1: for me. What about the next one, you know, Ohio

667
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Speaker 1: State goes to Oregon. I think it's week five, Week six,

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Speaker 1: something like that. It's like in the middle part of

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Speaker 1: the season. Doug Zone said. Oregon will beat Ohio State

670
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: by ten plus in Austin October twelfth. There's the date

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Speaker 1: that's an eight point seventy five on the boldness scale.

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Speaker 1: We've got a line on this Fandul's got the number

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Speaker 1: right now at Oregon minus one and a half. Autsen

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Speaker 1: Stadium is gonna matter a lot here. When is the

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Speaker 1: last premire all eyes on it game that we've seen

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Speaker 1: emanate from Auton Stadium. You watched Oregon Washington last year,

677
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Speaker 1: but that was up at Husky Stadium. You watched Oregon

678
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Speaker 1: Washington again, but that was in Las Vegas. I went

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Speaker 1: up two years ago to Austin and UCLA was in town.

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Speaker 1: But you haven't really had the eyes of America. You

681
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Speaker 1: haven't really had the eyes of the college football world

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Speaker 1: focused on Autson Stadium for a premier game in quite

683
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Speaker 1: a while. This will be it. So you're favored by

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Speaker 1: one and a half at home, that's adjusted odds makers

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Speaker 1: telling you you'd be about a two and a half

686
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Speaker 1: to a three point dog neutral site. Oregon secondary will

687
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Speaker 1: be tested here, So Oregon secondary would be the question

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Speaker 1: of that team. And then the other question is just

689
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Speaker 1: raw physicality. But here's the other part. So if this

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Speaker 1: were to happen, maybe it's because Ohio State's offensive lines

691
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Speaker 1: overwhelmed by the noise in the physicality that Oregon can bring.

692
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Speaker 1: So there's a world where this happens. It's not crazy.

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Speaker 1: We scored three reason seven's not one, so it's not

694
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Speaker 1: crazy that, you know, you pop a couple on the

695
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Speaker 1: boom that's worth fourteen points and voila. Oregon's won like

696
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Speaker 1: thirty eight to twenty four something like that. It's an

697
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Speaker 1: eight point seventy five because Ohio State's a really good team.

698
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Speaker 1: But it's not impossible. Next up, this one's pretty bold

699
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Speaker 1: as well. But you got a no schedule to know

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Speaker 1: that this isn't crazy. AJ from Jacksonburg, Ohio, Kyle McCord

701
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Speaker 1: leads Syracuse to a ten and two record and an

702
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Speaker 1: ACC Championship game appearance. They don't win it, they just

703
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Speaker 1: go that's a nine, but no Boulder, just a nine

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Speaker 1: on the boldness scale. Kyle McCord's there, transferred in from

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, so I got experience. They got Fran Brown

706
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Speaker 1: in entirely new coaching staff up there. Sometimes that's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. Look on your screen, and if you're not watching,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening, let me tell you the schedule for

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Speaker 1: Syracuse is up, and there is no Clemson, and there

710
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Speaker 1: is no FSU, and there is Miami. But they're at

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Speaker 1: home last game of the regular season. So there is

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Speaker 1: a world amidst the Ohio and Holy Cross and at UNLV,

713
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Speaker 1: and there is a world Yukon's on there as well.

714
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Speaker 1: There's a world where they're the most anonymous ten and

715
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Speaker 1: two team in the world. Not great, but there is

716
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Speaker 1: a world where that happens. They play five of the

717
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Speaker 1: bottom eight odds teams in the ACC, so maybe possibly

718
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Speaker 1: it's there. That's still a nine, but it's on the

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Speaker 1: fringes of believability enough for me. And the last one,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call this one quite as bold. It's

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Speaker 1: a really fun one. It maybe the most fun bold

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Speaker 1: prediction we've had. Think about all the teams that wear

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Speaker 1: red and then listen to Grant from Frisco, Texas, three

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Speaker 1: of the final four teams in the playoff will wear

725
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Speaker 1: red as their primary color. Okay, so think about those teams. Now,

726
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Speaker 1: we're counting like Maroon, we're counting Crimson, We're counting all

727
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Speaker 1: those I have the odds to win the title in

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Speaker 1: front of me. These are the teams that wear red.

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Speaker 1: Number one, number two, number five, number six, number eleven,

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Speaker 1: number fourteen, number eighteen, nineteen t twenty twenty two and

731
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Speaker 1: twenty four. So that's two for six, eight ten, Eleven

732
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Speaker 1: of the top twenty four teams to win the National

733
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Speaker 1: Championship wear red Georgia, Ohio State, Bama, Old Miss, Florida

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Speaker 1: State A, and m Utah, Oklahoma, USC, NC State, Louisville.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even put Wisconsin in there, Arizona not in there, Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Iowa State of course, because we all know

737
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Speaker 1: they're going to play for the Big twelve championship. Win

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739
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Speaker 1: well could see this three out of the four. It

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Speaker 1: So I get to the building this morning a little

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Speaker 1: the show after the interview. And so I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys watching. Without further ado, here is our

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Speaker 1: sit down from earlier today with Oregon's head coach Dan Lanning.

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Speaker 1: So at the fifty thousand foot level, everybody saying, man,

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Speaker 1: Dan Lanning in Oregon, Lincoln in usc All, these folks

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Speaker 1: got to change conferences, and it fills up like magazine space.

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Speaker 1: What does it actually mean? Like you're not in the

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00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: Pac twelve anymore, you're in the Big ten. So from

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Speaker 1: the time the season closed on last year to now,

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Speaker 1: what that we don't think about, what that, We don't

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Speaker 1: see if you had to do Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot outside of you. You're still trying

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Speaker 3: to build the best roster you possibly can. I'm a

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Speaker 3: believer in winning football. Wins, right, It doesn't regardless of conference.

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Speaker 3: What you do have to do is spend some time

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Speaker 3: reports on all the teams that we're going to play

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Speaker 3: next year. Get an idea of what the personnel changes are.

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Speaker 3: You know, what are some groupings that we might be

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Speaker 3: But what we have to do from a retention and

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Speaker 1: Organ's one of those teams gets talked about year round

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Speaker 1: because you guys are always at or near the top

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Speaker 1: of the recruiting conversation. So I've always felt growing up

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Speaker 1: So I knew about it for a long time. So

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Speaker 1: in a way, Orgon's always been visible nationally. When you

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Speaker 1: games in time zones that you hardly ever visit as

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Speaker 1: a team, is there like a tangible effect that has

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Speaker 1: on recruiting where all of a sudden, people's antennas go

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Speaker 1: up a little bit more. You got twenty percent better

852
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: chance of landing this kid than you would have in

853
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: a previous life.

854
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it certainly opens up some new recruiting areas

855
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: for us, some opportunities to go to places we haven't

856
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: necessarily gone.

857
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: We've always been a national.

858
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 3: Team, but we're a lot stronger now in the Midwest

859
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: because of our affiliation with the conference.

860
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: I think it gives people a clear vision.

861
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: There's no question things are a little shaky in our

862
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 3: last conference and where that went. Organ was always a

863
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: premier team, was going to survive whatever that looked like.

864
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: But now being affiliated with some of the great traditions

865
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten and what that looks like, you know,

866
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: gives us a great opportunity to go into homes and

867
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 3: get great players.

868
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: What was life like. It's out of your control, Like

869
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: you don't control which conference you guys go into. And

870
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure you may have known a little bit more

871
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: than those of us on the outside, but you probably

872
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: were like staring into the fog as well. So when

873
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: the future is uncertain, knowing you like I think I

874
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: do like it's out of side, out of mind because

875
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: you don't control it. But at the same time, when

876
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: you get questions in recruiting, when your staff is asking

877
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: you questions, when you're reading headlines and everything looks like

878
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: it's about to fall off a cliff for a conference,

879
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, does that affect you at all? You just

880
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: got to keep on keeping on. Well, I think you're.

881
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: Leaning on what you do know, and you said it.

882
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: You know, Organ's always been in premiere brand. It's always

883
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: been a place where people see opportunity. It's always been

884
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: a school. It's innovative and ahead of the curve. So

885
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: you leaning in all that, and then once you get

886
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: to tie yourself to a conference like the Big Ten,

887
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: and what's been accomplished in this conference with some of

888
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: the great teams that we get to play, it just

889
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 3: sweetens the pot.

890
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: All right. So you're entering year three now, which means

891
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: people think they have a lifetime of knowledge about you.

892
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: It's you get talked about in year three and year

893
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: four as a head coach like guys used to get

894
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: talked about in year fourteen or fifteen as a head coach.

895
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: So everyone else thinks they have you figured out do

896
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: you have you figured out or is there still a

897
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: part of Dan Lanning the head coach, Dan Lanning the

898
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: dude that's just evolving and you look back two years

899
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: ago and say, well, I've already changed a pretty good

900
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: amount in this area or that area.

901
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: I hope I keep changing, right, I mean, if you're

902
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: not changing as a coach, adapting, then you're falling behind,

903
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: you know.

904
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: And that's something you learned from Coach saving coach.

905
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: Smart guys that I've been around, is you have to

906
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: continue to grow with the game. You have to continually

907
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: to grow personally if you want your players to grow personally.

908
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: So that's something that you know, I'm excited about growth.

909
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: That's something I'm always looking forward to. I hope the

910
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: version of me today is different than the version of

911
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: me ten years from now.

912
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: For sure.

913
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: Where were you and what was your first reaction when

914
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: you saw Coach Saban retired.

915
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: I was at my house, you know, hanging out.

916
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: I got I got a couple of text messages and phone.

917
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Calls kind of right before I thought they were fake.

918
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

919
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: I how much that guy did for this game, what

920
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: he was able to create, and then the opportunity to

921
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: learn from I'm just grateful for the experience to be

922
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: around him and get to be a fly on the

923
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: wall there for a little bit.

924
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: You not many guys worked under him, and then you

925
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: had a run under Kirby Smart at Georgia. So there's

926
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: like a classroom basically you sit in as a coach

927
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: that not many get exposed to. They see it from

928
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: the outside, they go to conventions, they text with their

929
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: buddies who have been on those staffs, but walk people

930
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: through from just a viewer at home perspective, how intense

931
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: and how high the standard is in those buildings.

932
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, you can't measure it, right, you can't

933
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: measure it is. It's fourth and one every single day.

934
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: I always said when I went from sam Houston State

935
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: to Alabama and like, I'm going here to get my

936
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: doctor in football, And that's kind of what I felt like.

937
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 3: I got an education as a coach, and then even

938
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: getting the opportunity to go and coach with Mike Norvell

939
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: at Memphis and then go coach with Kirby as well.

940
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: You know, I think all those places really grew me.

941
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily about quantity of experience, but quality. And

942
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 3: I was really fortunate and in a short window to

943
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: get some great quality of experience.

944
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: When you've been around folks who do things at a

945
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: high level, and then you get your to put your

946
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: hands on your own wheel. If you've experienced that, I

947
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: got to imagine it gives you a leg up on

948
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: maybe other guys that are sort of feeling their way out.

949
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: It's not that you have all the answers, but you

950
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: can immediately recall back to when this was operating at

951
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: this level. It was never acceptable. Folks were about to

952
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: hear it Monday morning in the building, right, And so

953
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: then it's up to you to execute that. And you

954
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 1: find out really quick whether you're a general or you're

955
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: just a soldier. When you go from soldier to be

956
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: in a general, especially for the first time at any level,

957
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: much less a level like organ what's that transition period?

958
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Like to word, Now everybody's focused on you instead of

959
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: you being one of many who are focused on someone else.

960
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the big piece. Great leaders can't

961
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: be afraid of confrontation, right. You got to be willing

962
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: to address things as you see him, and you've got

963
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: to be able to say, hey, let's fix it.

964
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: What I always like to do is be a part

965
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: of that. Right. I'm not just the guy that points

966
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: out problems.

967
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: I want to be the guy that's in there help

968
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: them fix it and want to get my hands in

969
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: the dirt and help and the other.

970
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: Benefit of places I've been.

971
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: When you don't have a strong opinion about how you

972
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: want to do something, you can kind of lean back

973
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: and say, well, this is how coach Smart did it.

974
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: You know, this is how coach Saban did it, Coach

975
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 3: Norvel did it, Coach Graham and lean on those experiences.

976
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: So it's been fun for me to really get to

977
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: put your own stamp on your program, make it yours,

978
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: but at the same time be able to lean back

979
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 3: on some experiences that you've had.

980
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: So when you guys got to the end of last season,

981
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: you're in the Pac twelve championship game, you come up short,

982
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: you go to a bowl game and dominate an opponent,

983
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: then you got to a period where you can just

984
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: wholesale self scout. You can top to bottom forensically analyze

985
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: your program. What did you see? What were a few

986
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: of the things you landed on that you thought, I

987
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: got to adjust this, we got to evolve here, we

988
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: got to change here.

989
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, some critical moments, you know, I think we start

990
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: off slow in that last game in the PAC twelve

991
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: Championship certainly hurt us. You know, ability to stop the

992
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: run in that game. We've been able to stop the

993
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: run most of the season. In that game, you know,

994
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 3: struggle to do that, but didn't convert in some critical moments,

995
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 3: and those are moments that will certainly take you know,

996
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: take advantage of improving in the kicking game. I think

997
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: in special teams play is something that we really want

998
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: to focus on this year and make an impact on.

999
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: I think we have great specialists on our team now.

1000
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: Excited to see how they perform. It's a little different,

1001
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 3: you know, when the lights are bright and the moments

1002
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: are so tight. But those are all things that we

1003
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: really want to attack this season. Be able to run

1004
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 3: the ball it will when necessary, or things that we're

1005
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: really looking at.

1006
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: Are there aspects that you literally have to be a

1007
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: coach or be behind the scenes to understand the magnitude

1008
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: of and understand the importance that maybe general public doesn't

1009
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: place on it, but you see it and you say, no, no, no,

1010
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: we got to hammer this thing every day. And maybe

1011
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: it's something on the field, or maybe maybe it's like

1012
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: a mental neck up sort of thing with the team

1013
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: that you guys hammer on that the outside world would say, man,

1014
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: they spend a lot of time on that. Why they

1015
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: spend it so much time on that?

1016
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just the physicality of the game.

1017
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: You know, I still believe football is meant to be

1018
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: played a certain way, and I think people would be

1019
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: surprised if they came to our practice how physical those

1020
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: practices are, how intense they are. We always want to

1021
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: make practice harder than the game, and you know, having

1022
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: a fifty thousand foot view, you might not see the

1023
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: work that's put in, you know, on a Tuesday practice,

1024
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: you know, the contact that occurs at a practice.

1025
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: So that's that's really important to us.

1026
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: So that bleeds into the follow up, which is having

1027
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: the depth required to practice like right. And then also

1028
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: you've got the fact that you may have to play

1029
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: seventeen games to get where you ultimately want to get right.

1030
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: So then the question becomes, okay, well, how do you

1031
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: balance a practice schedule the level of physicality you're going

1032
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: to have in practice? And then also you get into

1033
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarters, you're up twenty four and there are nine

1034
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: minutes left on the clock. Do you handle that any

1035
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: differently now knowing the workload you're putting on guys, and

1036
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: then how far you got to go versus the way

1037
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: you would have five years ago.

1038
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to have your thumb on your team

1039
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: and have a really good understanding where your team's at.

1040
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: It's one thing I spent some time visiting with some

1041
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: NFL coaches this season about, Okay, longer season, what's that

1042
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: look like for you at the end of the season

1043
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 3: as opposed to the beginning. Putting a priority on what's important, right,

1044
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: what's an important piece of practice that has to be

1045
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 3: contact and what isn't and then just understanding your team.

1046
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 3: You know, ten years ago, if a team was down,

1047
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 3: you know, fourteen points, but two minutes to go, game

1048
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: was over. Yep, that's not the case anymore in college football.

1049
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: It is a little bit more of the case in

1050
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: this conference, right Some great defenses played in this conference.

1051
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: So if that's something we'll continue to figure out. And

1052
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: it goes back to why I think the most important

1053
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: important trait for a head coach right now is adaptability.

1054
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: I understand your team creating an experience to develop your roster.

1055
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: The depth of your roster is really important. So all

1056
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: those things that up.

1057
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: All right, So when I see you guys land someone

1058
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: in recruiting, I'm going to put out the WWE GIF

1059
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: and that's the end of it for me. Okay, Oregon

1060
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: got a big time recruit. That's it. I noticed it.

1061
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: I'm done. Other people want to explain it though. It

1062
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: can't just be this. It's got to be that as well.

1063
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: And so half the time, in fact, three quarters of

1064
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: the time, I look and the allegations are legal, so

1065
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. But there's also this hidden connotation that, well,

1066
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: if not for this, they wouldn't be doing that.

1067
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 2: Right.

1068
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: Can you explain the process A to Z in a

1069
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: condensed time period of what goes into recruiting even with

1070
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: nil resource in your back pocket, and what it actually

1071
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: takes to land a guy.

1072
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1073
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely that. You know, recruiting, it's not one thing. It's

1074
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 3: one plus one plus one plus one. It's the evaluation, right.

1075
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: It's the three hundred and twenty one different schools that

1076
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: we hit this offseason, you know, in spring recruiting. It's

1077
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: the twenty three satellite camps, it's the phone conversations, the

1078
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: text message threads.

1079
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: It's the relationship building and all that's.

1080
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: Built to have an opportunity to sit at the table

1081
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: right to have a seat at the table at the end,

1082
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: to be in that discussion, and then as nil a

1083
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: part of it, absolutely find a top ten team. It's

1084
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: not a part of their program right now. You better

1085
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: be willing to do it and figuring out ways to

1086
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: do it. And it's a part of our process, but

1087
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: not the only, not the only part of our process.

1088
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: So a lot of pieces go together.

1089
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: For a long time, Organ's been signing elite players, whether

1090
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 3: it'sd Anthony Thomas or Caveon, And for a long time

1091
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: Organ's been innovative. You know, at one point it was,

1092
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: well their jerseys are cool and that's why kids are

1093
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: going well. They have great facilities and that you know,

1094
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 3: what Organ's done is they've adapted the times and found

1095
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: out the best way to do things in correlation with

1096
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 3: an unbelieve staff that works their tail off every day.

1097
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: Right that's on the phones recruiting, spending time developing relationships

1098
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: and then a great product that your players brag on.

1099
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: Your best recruiting advocates for you are the players on

1100
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: your team and when our players can speak about their

1101
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 3: experience at organ and then the proofs in the pudding.

1102
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: You can look at a guy like bo Nicks that

1103
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: came ends up being a first round.

1104
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: Pick right here and was developed.

1105
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: You can point to that point to that success and

1106
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 3: then have all the other piece of the puzzle that matter.

1107
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: See, here's what's funny about what you just said. So

1108
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: I could have I could have a trillion dollar nil

1109
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: bag at pat State. I could do that, and I

1110
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: could just go be the highest bidder for every kid.

1111
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: I could do that, I get them all product. I

1112
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: could also two years later have the class fall apart

1113
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: because I didn't really have any adhesive. Guys came there

1114
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: for a very very fundamental reason, right, and then there's

1115
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: really nothing keeping them there. So we've seen high profile

1116
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: classes do that in the past three years, is my point.

1117
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: So that's my comeback on a lot of that is Okay,

1118
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: well go find those guys two years later can be

1119
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: your best recruiters, because if they are actively recruiting others

1120
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: to the program, it means there was a lot more

1121
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: drawing them there than just something that honestly is not

1122
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: really going to be visible for them. If they take

1123
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: care of themselves ten years down the road, because ten

1124
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: years down the road they're gonna be making generational money.

1125
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: That's right.

1126
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, rooted in substance, right, Like there has to

1127
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 3: be substance behind it. I'm really proud of the fact

1128
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 3: that we haven't lost a starter in my time since

1129
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: being a coach here to the portal.

1130
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: I think that speaks to the culture we have within

1131
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: our team. I think it also speaks to our ability

1132
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: to take care of our players.

1133
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: And one thing about Oregon is if we say something,

1134
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: we do it too right. And there's a lot of

1135
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 3: false promises out there in college football. But when you

1136
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 3: look at the truth of our program and the people

1137
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: within our program, you see guys that have come here,

1138
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: gotten better, had success, had opportunities to go play in

1139
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: the NFL and win a lot of games here, which matters.

1140
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: Which coach is in the Big Ten do you have

1141
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: the closest relationship with.

1142
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question.

1143
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's really fun sitting in those those Big

1144
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: Ten meetings because you see a bunch of guys that

1145
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 3: are really competitive, but really good guys that care about football, right,

1146
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 3: And you know, PJ Flex, a guy that I never

1147
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: knew before begin bump into him and having an impression

1148
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: that I thought, and then the reality of who he

1149
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: is the guy is is, you know, really unbelievable. You know,

1150
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: what Brett brings to the conference with his experience in

1151
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: the NFL and the different place has been is really

1152
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: an advocate for our group at Illinois.

1153
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: You know. Jed's a guy that I've obviously had.

1154
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: Familiarity with his time at Arizona and got to connect with.

1155
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of guys in this conference that

1156
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for and just being

1157
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: able to sit in the same room as them, getting

1158
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: to sit in the same room as Kirk ference is

1159
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: pretty awesome.

1160
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: Aron.

1161
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 3: I'm still one of those guys that pinched myself and say, hey,

1162
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 3: what am I doing in here?

1163
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: You know?

1164
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: So it's fun. Now what's hard in college football? We

1165
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: don't really get to be friends anymore. We all compete

1166
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: with each other, but there's a level of respect.

1167
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1168
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 3: Matt Ruhle's a guy that I sat away from for

1169
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: a long time and seen from a distance.

1170
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: Getting to know that guy.

1171
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: That guy cares about his team, He cares about his players,

1172
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: he cares about the game of football, So that's been

1173
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: fun for me to experience.

1174
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: Now, there there are a lot of folks in my

1175
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: industry that I grew up reading, I grew up watching,

1176
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: or I grew up listening to that. Now I'm in

1177
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: this aim laying at right. But in our world, in

1178
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: the digital on demand world, I don't have to compete

1179
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: against them. They can just watch anything they want to

1180
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: at any time in your world. If they beat you,

1181
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: that's an L for you, that's a W for them.

1182
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: And and there's the added effect of, like you just

1183
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: mentioned it, you kind of grew up looking up to

1184
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: some of these guys. You've probably taken from a lot

1185
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: of them. How surreal is it? You can't focus on

1186
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: this on game day, but like on a non game day,

1187
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: if you just look in the mirror and have a

1188
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: pinch myself moment for thirty seconds, how surreal is it?

1189
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Especially knowing your story and the atypical route you took

1190
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: to get where you are. How crazy is it to think,

1191
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: wait a second, like when we take the field on Saturday,

1192
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: I got the same job here as that guy has there,

1193
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: Like we're equals now.

1194
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievably blessed and certainly fortunate to do it. But

1195
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: it's no different than when I go play, you know,

1196
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: knockout with my son. I want to win, right, and

1197
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: winning winning is important, So I'm grateful for be there.

1198
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 3: But you want to get so caught up in the

1199
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: moment that you don't recognize what you know, what's the

1200
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: mission at hand.

1201
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: So when I look at you guys, I don't think

1202
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: most of the country would be able to just rattle

1203
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: off organs too deep on the d line, right. But

1204
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: yet in totality, that group looks ready to compete in

1205
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: this conference, right. And we were talking about how how

1206
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: you have to have adequate depth to practice the way

1207
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: you want to at a level of physicality, also in

1208
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: November to be able to stand up and then December

1209
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: and in January. How good do you feel about the

1210
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: versatility and depth you guys have on the front.

1211
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: I'll feel a lot better once we go play some games, right,

1212
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: But I do feel like for the first time we

1213
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: have a complete depth chart to the point to where

1214
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: we can practice the way you have to. We can

1215
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: develop both halves of our roster, and we have a

1216
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: group that can play, that has size, girth, athleticism, and

1217
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 3: if we do a great job coaching them. These guys

1218
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: can really perform on the field.

1219
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: Were there any being general here, Were there any tweaks

1220
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: that you guys thought, because we're going to this conference,

1221
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: we need to change in terms of nutrition or strength

1222
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: and conditioning or is the organ plan the organ plan?

1223
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1224
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: Really, our plan hasn't changed. It's about how fast we

1225
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 3: can get there, right, go. I always knew D line

1226
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 3: play mattered, especially from the place I just came from. Right,

1227
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: D line is really important, and our D line today

1228
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: looks a lot different than our D line did when

1229
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: I first got there, right, And so the formula for

1230
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: winning football that certainly matters. Now there's no doubt in

1231
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 3: this conference that there's the level of physicality in the

1232
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: way the game's played. But that doesn't that still translates

1233
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: back to winning football.

1234
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: This new NCAA rule where you've got different on field

1235
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: staffers being able to coach than you used to be

1236
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: able to have. I looked at that, and I said,

1237
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: there may not be a ton of change I can

1238
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: make right now, But when I get to December, when

1239
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: I get to January, I could probably go to the

1240
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: G five level or FCS level. If I'm a major

1241
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 1: program and I could take position coaches or maybe even

1242
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: coordinators and bring them here as off field analysts who

1243
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: benefit really tangibly because they're getting on field coaching experience

1244
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: at Oregon on their resume. How much do you think

1245
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: that rule change is going to befit your coaching depth?

1246
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1247
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: You know, for us personally, I'm excited because sometimes we

1248
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: lose landscape of the people in your program, developing the

1249
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: people in your program, and there's there was an avenue

1250
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 3: for a while where it's hard to develop young coaches

1251
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: in your program because they never get the opportunity to coach, right,

1252
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: So could you go poach other.

1253
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: Programs best coaches? Absolutely?

1254
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: For me, I'm way more excited about seeing our young

1255
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: coaches grow. You know, we want to create an environment

1256
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: in Oregon where we can can promote within right, a

1257
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: coach moves on and gets an opportunity that we're really

1258
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: excited about for him. Now, this gives us the opportunity

1259
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 3: to help develop the next guy on the roster, the

1260
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 3: next man up, and they have to be talent enough

1261
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: to do that, so you can't sacrifice talent. Will there

1262
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: be some of that that happens where teams lose a

1263
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: great coach because he's at a smaller level and he

1264
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 3: sees an opportunity. Absolutely, and it might be something will assess.

1265
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 3: But more importantly, I'm excited for the young coaches on

1266
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 3: our staff and some of the coaches on the sideline

1267
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: and our staff that don't have to be on the

1268
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: sideline anymore. They can actually, you know, be on the paint.

1269
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: How do you balance the idea in your head that

1270
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: you want to maintain continuity of staff. Everyone would love

1271
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: things not to change if you have it in a

1272
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: sweet spot, But yet you still want to promote an

1273
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: environment and foster an environment where your guys are working

1274
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: towards their goals and you want to help them achieve

1275
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: their goals. A lot of them want to be coordinated

1276
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: or head coaches, Like, what's the balance in Man, I

1277
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: hate to lose this guy, but man, I'm happy for

1278
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: this guy.

1279
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 3: Well, I got to remember how I got here, You're

1280
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: right right, And I got to remember my path and

1281
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 3: my goals and my aspirations.

1282
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: So I've always put my goals in my mirror.

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Speaker 3: My number one go in my mirror right now is

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Speaker 3: help my people live out their dreams and aspirations. Now

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00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: in our staff, and in our organization, it's about accountability.

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Speaker 2: Right for you to achieve those goals, and.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I had to do to get there, and

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Speaker 3: here's what you have to be able to do to

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Speaker 3: get there. And the benefit of that is when the

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Speaker 3: team's first, the rest.

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Speaker 2: Takes care of itself. The opportunity are going to come

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Speaker 2: your way whenever you do a great job.

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Speaker 1: What's it like having a conversation with a guy if

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Speaker 1: they do come to you. I assume guys will come

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Speaker 1: to you to get your advice about their upward mobility,

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Speaker 1: and you'd have a meeting with them about that at

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Speaker 1: some point during the year. Anyway, when a guy thinks

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Speaker 1: he's ready could be a player, when a player thinks

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Speaker 1: he's ready to start, when a coach thinks he's ready

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Speaker 1: to elevate, and you think almost but not quite, how

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Speaker 1: gentle or how stern does the messaging have to be

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Speaker 1: in just delivering truth back to the other side of

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Speaker 1: the table.

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Speaker 2: That's the part.

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Speaker 3: Deliver the truth right, Give them the truth, and people

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00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: are gonna make decisions best for them, what they think

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00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: is best for themselves, and that in that moment an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna trick anybody to stay into our program.

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Speaker 3: And what happens when there is change, When there is uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, some transition, that's also an opportunity to growth

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Speaker 3: in your program. But you don't want to lose, you know,

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Speaker 3: a plus's especially if they're not ready.

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Speaker 2: So you fight to keep them. You fight to keep them,

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Speaker 2: but on the.

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Speaker 3: Same note, you give them truth and if they are ready,

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Speaker 3: you remember that somebody gave you that opportunity to and

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00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: you got to give them that opportunity to move on.

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Speaker 1: We were having a conversation with another coach the other

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Speaker 1: day and there was an era frankly, when I was

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00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: coming out of high school, there was the era of

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00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: specialized sports, focus on playing one sport, and some of

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00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: us got tricked into that. Fortunately that's waned a little

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00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: bit and you got you got some pretty high level

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00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: guys that still play multiple sports, some of them even

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Speaker 1: into the college level. How often do you deal with

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Speaker 1: that recruiting guy baseball, basketball and football, and coach I

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00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: may want to continue that. How how beneficial is that

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Speaker 1: from a skill standpoint? And how do you handle those conversations?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oregon, that's really who we are. If you look

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00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: at our team, you'll see a goal glove winner. They're

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00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: playing linebacker and Bryce Betcher, you know, and I think

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Speaker 3: he was fourth this year on our fourth or fifth this.

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00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: Year on our team and tackles, so he's able to

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Speaker 2: do both.

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Speaker 3: You see Rod Pleasant out there playing corner and then

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Speaker 3: running track in the spring. So this is a place

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Speaker 3: where we really embrace that. We love recruiting guys that

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Speaker 3: are multi sport athletes. Well, what's great about our plays?

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00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: You actually could get the opportunity to do that after

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00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: you come here as a player as well, and proofs

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: in the pudding.

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Speaker 2: I've been a lot of places where they say that.

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Speaker 3: Then you get to campus and spring ball rolls around

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00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: and coaches saying, wait, wait, we're not still doing that

1345
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 3: doing that? Yeah, we just told you that. No, like

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00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: in our place, you can see it. It's actually happened.

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00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 3: Bryce Betcher is a great example of that. Rod Pleasant,

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Speaker 3: it's a great example of that. At one point, Organ's

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00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: four by one team was all football players. I think

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00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 3: that's awesome for the sport. I think that's awesome for

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 3: all sports, and it's certainly something we embrace at our place.

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Speaker 1: If you're the kind of place that delivers on promises.

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00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: How often do you hear from guys maybe coaches, but

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00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: mostly players who chose somewhere else. They go somewhere else.

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00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they got there and maybe it wasn't what they

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00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: thought it to be, and maybe it's just random. Tuesday

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00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: you see a text, hey man, miss you. Guys probably

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Speaker 1: would do it different if I could do it over again.

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01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: Is that common or is that more fantasy?

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01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: It certainly happens. It certainly happens.

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01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: And that's where I think in recruiting it matters to

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01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: don't always be bad.

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: You shouldn't alway feel bad.

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Speaker 3: About finishing second, because sometimes that might come full circle.

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Speaker 3: And we do a great job of maintaining relationships with

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Speaker 3: guys even if they don't choose our place. I want

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01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: to see kids be successful. I want to see players

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Speaker 3: going and change their family future. And I want to

1369
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 3: see guys that love football have success. So sometimes it's

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Speaker 3: a great lesson for them and it might translate to

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Speaker 3: a decision they make down the road.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe they didn't pick.

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Speaker 3: Here, but down the road, they're going to be a

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Speaker 3: better decision maker when they get that opportunity and evaluate

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Speaker 3: everything that's around them.

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Speaker 2: And that's the benefit.

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Speaker 1: Folks have been talking. So folks have been talking around

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Speaker 1: Indy all week. Not how the duck got in the river,

1379
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Speaker 1: but who knew about the duck? Did you know about

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Speaker 1: the duck ahead of time?

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01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: I've maybe heard about the duck.

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Speaker 3: I'm really fighting right now to get this inflatable duck

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01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: to travel to all of our away games. I think

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01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 3: that would maybe bother people a little bit. And I

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01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: don't mind bothering people. It means maybe you're.

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Speaker 1: Doing that the more people bother to I want to

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Speaker 1: know about deployment. Is that something you just pulled I

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Speaker 1: did three am?

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Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, I didn't actually institute, like I wasn't the

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Speaker 3: one inflating that thing.

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Speaker 2: But really love to see that video.

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Speaker 1: But if you wink at me, I know what that means.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to admit anything publicly. Okay, so we

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Speaker 1: get mighty different round.

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Speaker 2: That's certainly something that's a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. A lot of these players

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play, there's no water nearby Cornfield. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: think they stay in storage the airplane hangar. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: you came here. You were nice enough to hit us

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Speaker 1: first today. So we're talking in the morning before you

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Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, they're gonna ask a million questions today.

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Speaker 1: But the one or two things you have circled bright

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Speaker 1: red sharpie. This is the thing that we have to

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Speaker 1: nail for this year's team to be what it needs

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Speaker 1: to be. What is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there's a lot of that other

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Speaker 3: than really creating a team. Again, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: people realize in college football, I think everyone does how

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Speaker 3: much teams change. You know, in my two years here,

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Speaker 3: we have ten players on our roster right now that

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Speaker 3: we're there. When we got there, it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: different team. And this year we have you know, we

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Speaker 3: brought in a lot of players as well, So it's

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Speaker 3: about how quickly can you become a team. We have

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Speaker 3: guys that have ex brands, some at other places, you know,

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Speaker 3: some here, But it's about developing your roster and game

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Speaker 3: to play as a team and be unselfish. It's really

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Speaker 3: hard in college football. Now we have a team that

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Speaker 3: really believes in that. So those are the pieces that

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Speaker 3: are gonna matter. You know, playing to our standard, not

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Speaker 3: necessarily playing to our opponent, I think is something we

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Speaker 3: really got.

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Speaker 2: To focus on this year.

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Speaker 1: As well, Daileen, we appreciate it man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Josh, appreciate it Man.

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