WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme Presents: May Flowers Part 1 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.040 Quest Loft Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:10.119 Good People. What's good, y'all? 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.400 This is Questlove and your tune into Quest Love Supreme 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.439 and we got some things in the works for the 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.960 future of this podcast, but in the meantime, we are 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.959 looking back and celebrating our catalog. It's the month of May, 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.680 so thematically, I've been thinking a lot lately about the 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.520 idea of giving people their flowers while they're still. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.400 Here or while they can still smell them. And this 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.600 is something we always talked about on QLs. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.600 It's not just the icons, the big names, but the 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.839 folks behind the scenes, the ones whose work and presence 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:48.040 quietly shape the future. The ones who change the room 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.279 just by walking into it, or change your. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.040 Life by just being in it. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:56.040 It's bigger than just saying, while you're a legend, you know, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:00.000 give these people their flowers. On QLs, we always try 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.960 to say and say loud you met. And here's why, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.039 because if we don't celebrate our heroes, our peers, our 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.679 people who will So anyway, today we're picking some May 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.520 flowers and some of these clips from the show. Over 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.280 the last nine years, we got the Pointer Sisters, three 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.280 different members of cool in the Gang runned Dette Cooper, 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:26.240 Climax producer and songwriter Leebroy Burgess. These are all icons 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.959 that you need to know, and what better place to 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:39.800 begin than with the legendary Frankie Beverly. So in twenty 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.600 twenty three, coustlep Supreme was granted an interview with Frankie 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.560 Beverly and the recent years he hasn't done that many 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:52.000 interviews at all, and this one was a rare opportunity. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.440 And what's more, we were able to do it in 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:59.720 person at Iheart's Hollywood Studios, and we caught it off film. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.960 All right, So in this clip you'll hear me Frankie Beverly, 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.840 his family members Will Beverly and Miss Deborah Beverly Pugh 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.480 as well as like you and Fonte heloone and I 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.600 really love what Fonte says to Frankly about soundtracking some 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.880 of the happiest times in life for so many of us. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.120 As I called out in this episode, we titled this 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.079 one QLs gives. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.120 Frankie Beverly his flowers. It's an integral. 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.120 Part of this two part retrospective. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:35.760 So would you say that songwriting was therapeutic for you? 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.280 In terms of expressing yourself. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:44.400 Yes, absolutely, yeah, because I'll say that love like oftentimes 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.840 I think people will tend to type cast soul music 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:52.600 in R and B as somewhat like meaningless love music 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:53.120 or whatever. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:54.160 But I don't know. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.959 I think coming from you, especially the way you sing. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.720 There's such a gentle comforting almost right, Yeah, And it's 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:06.040 such a gentle Normally, gentle singers are are like like 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:12.639 high like falsetto smoky stylistics, and so it's very rare 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:17.760 to hear a baritone voice that's that gentle and that. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.080 Sort of thing. I appreciate it. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.680 I'm reflecting to you. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.919 What I'm only showing you what you what you are. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:32.480 But yeah, like in the sixties and seventies, when most 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:37.440 lead black singers were high falsetto. 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.720 High voices whatever. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.800 For you, was there was that ever an option like 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.400 to figure out because sometimes like Ronald Eisley. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.560 Will go between his high voice and his low voice. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.640 But for you, was there Oh okay, I was gonna 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.480 be the singer. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.280 All right, Yeah, the approachable every day guy. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.480 Okay, I get that, And. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.040 That's what he really it was approachable. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:01.880 That's a that's a. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.080 Good term approachable. I see that. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.480 Yeah, he was approachable. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.080 What do you What was I thinking? 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.160 Yeah, what do you think? 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:09.640 Now? 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:10.960 I was you know what I was just thinking. I 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.280 was like, yeah, because I was thinking about awards, and 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.480 I was thinking about like these Grammys and these all 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.599 these awards, and I was like, to my recollection, you 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.960 guys don't have a lot of those. But the acceptance 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.640 of you in the community, and I've seen you speak 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:24.240 about this. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.680 Before, far exceeds. 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.160 So that everyday manism that you're talking about, it's worth 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:35.080 so much more, it looks like than the untouchable of it. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:41.120 All right, Yeah, that's very true, honey. It seems like 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:47.480 our people really supported us, even from a young stage, 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:48.920 as much. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:49.240 As we could. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:49.440 Yes. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.520 Yeah, I've been to I've had the privilege attendant on 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.320 one of your shows. You came to my hometown at Raleigh, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:56.919 North Carolina. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.360 This was this was some years back, and y'all played 0:04:59.360 --> 0:04:59.960 this emphathy. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.800 It was outside, and I mean you came out and 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.479 it was full of people and they sang every word. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.080 They sang every word. I was like, if Frank you 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.480 want to chill the night, he didn't got the same. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.520 We gonna sing form you know what I mean, but 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.799 I think you know, speaking of what like he was saying, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.599 just you know, I just want to make sure that 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.800 we communicate to you today. You know, you were just 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.560 a staple in our households, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.520 Like your music was like always there, and it was 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.640 and it was oftentimes too. It wasn't just your music 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.840 was there, but your music was the soundtrack to some 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.040 of the best times of our lives. Like you always 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:39.239 associated I always associated Frankie, Beverly and Mads with good times, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.719 you know what I'm saying. And like what you were 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.919 saying about him singing with love we need love to 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.799 live that was like one of my favorite songs. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.120 Like I would always play that. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.600 I even a. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:49.440 Very long time ago. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.600 I said it was like wow, I sampled it and 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.040 wrapped over it did not come out. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:59.600 I was sixteen. Yeah, shine, golden time of the day. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.400 The shining part was the original music that clones Oh. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.440 My god, if you can ever mass but we couldn't 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.360 make the loop work and so then we start all 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.360 over again because yeah, but. 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.719 But no, no, you It was just always a spirit 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.560 that came through in your music and just really spoke 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:18.920 just to all of us and just made us all 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.040 feel really good. And you know, I've seen it, just 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.600 the magic of you performing and people. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.120 You know, it's like your family member. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.440 Yeah, that's so beautiful. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:37.120 You guys gonna make me start crying, all right. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.719 So that excerpt into what Franklin Beverly saying he was 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.800 gonna start crying, which wow, it's just something. A year 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.080 after we take this interview that mister Beverley passed, so 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.279 we're the ones who are crying. But that interview means 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.919 so much to me and to the team. He was 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.440 all smiles and he has that coolness what you see 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:09.840 in the video of this episode. Twenty nineteen, Coustlef Supreme 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.840 got a visit from Anita Pointer, Bonnie Pointer and their brother, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:19.320 Fritz Pointer. Bonnie and Anita have since then, you know, transition, 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:24.240 But this was a great career conversation with three as 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.480 the pointed sisters are mentioned. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.120 A lot on Quest Lef Supreme. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.960 One of the things we often did as co hosts 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.840 is leave time at the end for random or personal questions. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.240 Is to really give the affirmation that happens here and 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.680 if you get a taste of the random and then 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:48.480 some heartfelt flowers from QLs, especially from Boss Bill. In 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.480 this conversation, we spoke about trying to get the Pointed 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.080 Sisters into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, something 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.560 that has not happened yet, but I personally, I would 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.400 like very much well to see. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.440 What was it like being a part of USA for Africa. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.000 We are the world night, Oh. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.720 God, what tonight. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.240 We had just come from the I think the am 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.400 A Awards and went to the studio and I was 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:15.920 in awe. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.840 Everybody top secret like all these famous people. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.360 I wound out about it and was the top secret 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:26.760 like we. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.120 Found out like the day before, because they sent us 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.920 sheet music and a cassette and. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:33.560 Have in the frame. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.200 Quincy's house and he has the lead sheet framed on it. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.040 Yeah, I got a. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:42.120 Lead with everybody. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.319 I went around that night and made everybody designed my 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:50.040 music and I got home my frame and they're. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.040 Kind of intimidated by anybody that was in the room 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:52.679 or you guys, like. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.480 Yeah, everybody everybody was like you, oh. 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.480 My god, oh my god, to be cool. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:13.440 Michael Jackson, you want to, Lionel Richie, yes, wonderful, Yeah, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:22.080 Bette Midler else was there, uh No, But chi LEI 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:22.600 was there. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.760 I think that's Oakland. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.800 Too, n So that's Oakland, and LaToya Jackson was like 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:38.320 right beside me, Turner, turn that was a wonderful, wonderful night. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.800 I mean we got out of there, the sun was 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:41.240 coming up? 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.600 Were there all night? Did you have any experiences with 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.080 Aretha while she was alive? 0:09:47.960 --> 0:10:00.479 No, Well, Ruth, Ruth had some competition with Areas Edwards. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.760 In fact, in fact her daughters. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.040 Wow, the one who's singing with her, her daughter who 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.960 singing with her is product of Ruth and Dennis. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.040 Edwards, and she and Maria were dating Dennis like, oh 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:16.520 yeah the same time. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:24.880 Wow, Wow, it's a frozen I don't even myself. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:27.559 I'll do myself right now. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:38.359 Too much information, baby. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.440 Well you know I have to say that enough, can I? 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:46.800 This is a pleasant, pleasant surprise. Again, Finnie, such a 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.840 fan and the myviewers for the longest. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.160 So I'm glad to finally ad met you. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:57.080 I never thought I would thank you that same for you. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.600 Your whole family. And again, yes, rock and Roll Hall 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.000 of Fame, I gotta be. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.760 We've got a star on the Hollywood Walk and welcome 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:22.960 fan Arkansas, Black Hall of Fame, everything. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.439 Don't matter. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:30.960 Yes, it doesn't matter. I just want to say that 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.439 something I said earlier today. You guys were in my childhood, 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.400 and every time I listen to your music, I'm just 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.560 taking back to such a wonderful place in time. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:38.880 In my life. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.720 Wonderful just to be sitting across from you guys, like 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:48.640 beside out here. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:53.280 We see we taught you well, well, I see that 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:54.439 T shirt you have on. 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.440 You got a lot of good information from the morning. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.600 More questions before we before we break. May Staples was 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:04.400 she an influence? 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.320 Oh lord, Yeah, we were listening to a song we 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.360 were We did Respect Yourself, Yes, in Vegas, and Fritz 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.480 brought up a c D and played it. We played 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.600 it last night with us singing in Vegas at Caesar's 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:23.000 Palace singing respect Yourself, Mays. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:29.080 We were on the road. 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.760 But yeah, and Frince was very good friends with Mayvis 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:38.400 Staples and we had some fun, fun times together. Yeah, 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.480 and I was also the friends with with purpose. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:45.120 He was a differend than mine. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.240 Well, go to those night clubs and you go in there. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.360 Oh my god, this is a gun sitting right there 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.120 on the desk. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.000 Where we have sound check. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.240 The gun on the desk. 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:02.199 I just got one of the silhouettes from that. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:03.960 You know that is that's a tattoo. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:10.400 Will look on the back and the tattoos. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.200 You gotta be like a SoundCloud rapper. Put it on 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:21.880 your face. Yes, thank you so much. I appreciate it. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:27.320 Thank you for coming on the show today. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.120 I love it, y'all. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.560 That was Anita, Bonnie and Fritz Pointer on QLs from 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:45.400 twenty nineteen. We had Robert Coop Bell on QLs in 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.040 twenty twenty one. It was the first series with band members. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.840 This whole conversation had flowers from Corner Gang's excellent transition 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.800 from jazz funking to disco, message music and more. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.840 Here's the tail end of that comment, which I loved. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.480 What are your three personal favorite songs that you've done 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:08.439 in your catalog? 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:14.800 That's some of the manas is definitely one. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:26.160 Hollywood swinging, okay okay, and of course celebration now Hollywood Swinging. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.560 It's all about when he's first, what's going about to Hollywood? 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.640 And again Frankie k Frankie Hollywood Crops. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.280 He broke that record in New York A. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.800 Ladies, can I ask you a capitalistic question before we go. 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.400 If you were to stop. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.160 Doing music right now and no other music existed, could 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.640 you tell us what cooling the Gang song could feed 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:52.000 you for. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.920 Life if I were to stop doing music. 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:56.800 Yes, Like, if you just stop doing music and didn't 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.960 care about any other songs, records or whatever, what's the 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.120 cooling the Gang song that could have been feeding and 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:03.160 we'll feed you for life? 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:10.160 Oh well, that's that's celebration, celebration. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:12.040 I wasn't sure. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:12.640 It's so many. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:19.040 Hey cool, it's even they're going to do a whole 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.640 big thing. I think TikTok live, that company all cool? 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:23.120 Get it? 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:25.680 Something mad? 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:26.800 I mean you got? 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:27.800 I mean Will Smith? 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.359 I mean the movie. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:35.240 Yeah, even though what's my man? Lebron James did the 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.640 somemer man, he's up on dumping diving into the swimming 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:39.440 pool with something mad. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.840 Something mad is just it might be someone mad and 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.880 seeing that some celebration, it might be. 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:50.240 It's definitely celebration. Kah, celebration ain't never going to die ever? 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.160 Yeah, hey cool, the DJ played celebration at my mitch 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:56.960 for in nineteen eighty three. 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:02.520 You ever get paid for that, dude? And the nineteen 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.040 ninety three same thing? 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.040 Yeah, that's wait, a minute, I will ask, have you 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.200 guys ever done celebration at a wedding or at the 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.440 bar mitzvah As school in the game? 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:16.240 Yes? 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.440 And what is that rate? I'm still in my capital 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:19.840 is bad? 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:23.960 How do I get that out of my next heavy price? 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.240 I want to leave on this though. Oh when. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:30.360 Super Bowl? 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.960 Yeah, it was the Stealers. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.880 And who was it that Super Bowl. 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.920 In nineteen eighty Were they playing the Cowboys? I'm not certain? 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:45.960 And looking up Steve. 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:52.160 Bill and the Stealers one that was that one? And 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.240 the Steelers one by that one touchdown? 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.240 Okay, the last few minutes of the game. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.880 So we were scared. Need to play. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:06.160 For whatever that team was anyway, And I only came 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.600 to us, I said, will you guys please don't play celebration? 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.359 You serious? Two thousand and nine against the Cardinals, but 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:20.359 we didn't play celebrations. You did not play celebration because. 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.040 They lost that game. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:27.159 Okay, well then ladies night it is. 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:31.919 Anyway. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.400 I want to thank you guys. Was the support of men. Man, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.199 you're just your whiz man. You know he asked me 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:38.040 questions that. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.119 I have to remember again. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:46.159 Man, you know, I'm just your legacy. Wait, did you 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.000 have one last question? Oh I was, Yeah, I had 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.719 a question about fruit man. Was that song? Is that 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:57.359 a reference to the fruit of Islam? About that song? Okay, okay, 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:58.439 got you it was. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.959 Yeah, we just came up with different ideas than concept 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.360 you back in the day the fruit man come by 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:06.679 the truck and you want to get. 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:06.960 Some wa. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:14.840 Yes, wow, okay, but good try No, I thought I 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:16.560 heard that. I never heard of red. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.879 As something like a belt. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.720 We had this conversation before, and y'all was laughing at 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.280 me and called me old. And I'm trying to explain 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:29.840 to y'all between at least the fruit, the fruit and 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.119 the fish man were the same. Dude on my Grandma's 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:33.800 blocked I remember. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.000 The fish man. We didn't have a fruit man. We 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.960 had a fish man. When you see the look online's 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:38.840 face right now. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:39.840 I don't believe you. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.520 I think you're talking about your auntie down south, not 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:41.960 in Philly. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:43.399 Fish in Philly. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:47.000 Yes, like just like, just like mister Softie comes by 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.879 every you know, every four point thirty on you know, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:50.600 on his route. 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.879 However, I will say the watermelon man is still a 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:55.800 very real thing in a lot of different cities. 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:58.879 Yeah, but for Southwest Philly. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.439 Like the fishman would just you know, the back of 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.000 his truck would be like a whole bunch of ice 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.119 and a whole bunch of fish. He just go up 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.960 and down each block selling mackerel, poorgies, like different types 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:12.840 of fish. And then the next day he come back, 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:19.040 same truck, clean, have vegetables. Next day fruit Like they 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.920 would take fruit to the hood. Like that's the thing 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.200 I missed. We want to have the fruit man deliver. 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:26.680 You know. Now we gotta go to the suburbs. You 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:27.400 get the good fruit. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.880 Bill San your life? 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:31.640 What'd you say? 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:32.040 Bill? 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.520 Long Island didn't have any man in a car. We 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.840 had to go to the store. Hey man, it was 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:43.400 different than it was called food deserts. 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:51.480 See, we're getting to know each other America. Brother Cool. 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:53.879 I want to thank you personally for you know, your 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.520 legacy and sharing story with us. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.680 Don't forget support Cool. You know the new album tell 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.800 me about them. After Jenna said that her she was like, 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.080 he was like, give my step mom loves that. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.040 So I was like, I gotta get something okay, cool, Yeah, 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:11.280 we're drinking on some lake cool. 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.400 So we got the rose for the late days. 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:25.199 Oh but that's all you had to say, Lady Stereo 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:26.040 type I do like. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:33.600 QLs also had Corner Gang's drummer, Funky George Brown on 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.600 and Uh late twenty twenty three, I asked him the 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.959 same question. This interview was taped in September and George 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:46.399 passed that November. That loss hit me hard because it 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:50.000 was amazing to have George share history as we compiled 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:56.119 several oral histories of Corner Gang. Could you tell me 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:03.800 what your three favorite Cool and Gang songs are? But 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:06.640 can you also just tell me what was your favorite 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:07.680 song to create? 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:09.960 Wow? 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:12.639 Wait, are you one of those? They are all my 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.120 kids and I can't separate them. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:15.960 No, no, no, I'm not one of those guys. I 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.560 waldon Peace from the World and Peaceful Album. Okay, that's 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:25.200 the title song. I remember John Coltrane, I love that. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:31.720 W Yeah that and it's just really none of the hits, 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:32.280 none of the. 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:36.840 Big us those other hits. You know me Little Children 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:43.199 is one of my favorites. Yeah, you know, never Don't Change. 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:47.120 And the third would be fruit Man. 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:55.640 No, it's We've got some rhythm songs in the Caribbean Festival. Okay, yeah, 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:59.320 I'll take that. It had all that listeners in it. 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.080 It's it's fine and some of that. And so when 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:07.919 you hear it, you go, man, bubba about the Horns, 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:17.919 you know, just you know that group and you got that, 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:20.960 you know, so it was great. 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.960 Okay, So making making those three like your your your 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.360 favorite yeah, you know, as I said at the top 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.280 of the show, man, it's it's really kind of our 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.520 missioneer on the show, just you know, to give flowers 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:37.800 to legendary people that otherwise might not get there. They're 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.359 just too as far as you know, the legacy that 0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:45.119 they set forth. And definitely you know for all of 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.720 us here, you know, Cooly Gang represents. I mean, it's 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:52.720 an institution of of of just brilliant and you know 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:57.320 it sustained all music, all times, you know, all spaces 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:01.240 and still strong to this day. And even my band, 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.160 you know, goes through a cool in a Gang moment 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.640 in our current show and you know the songs are. 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:12.119 Plus you'll have a Jermaine Jermaine bryceon. 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.000 Tub Yeah. Yeah, yes, I know that he plays with 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:16.480 you guys. 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:21.120 Brother, Yeah, yeah, he plays he plays with them now 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:23.800 yeah yeah, man, But we just thank you for coming 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.959 on the show and we appreciate your you know, your 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.320 legacy and and and everything that you've done, and thank 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.480 you all your break beats and everything. 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.560 We love that. We love it to death. 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.640 Thank you. You know. I'm not going to say it's 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.480 been a long hard road. It's been a long beautiful 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:47.560 road being as a creator, you know, because Ronald and 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.680 I sit and come up materials, he and I especially 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:55.199 back in the late seventies and early eighties, that's what 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:59.800 we did. We just set in the studio and reverse things, 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.200 put together live albums, you know, from all the tapes. 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.720 You know, the deal just just had a ball and 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:10.520 being the all night six o'clock in the morning, you said, 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.920 I'll see it in a few hours, come back again into 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:18.679 that whole set. That that that's worth everything, you know, 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.680 as far as creative people is concerned. That's that's worth 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:26.640 it all, you know, and and and and it becoming 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.159 successful too. And if it doesn't become successful, you go 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.560 back in your tweet, what did we do? 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:32.760 What? 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:33.920 What's going on? 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:34.600 So? 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.120 And I appreciate you having me on. 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:45.800 As well, thank you, but it makes it, just like 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.879 all of us, it makes it a little harder, you know, 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.280 when you go I love your music and you gotta 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.640 you know that whole thing defended their doing. 0:24:55.680 --> 0:25:01.760 Loving fans, but truly truly hard folk. Thank you well, 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:02.119 Thank you. 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:08.280 From the same amazing family tree is James JT. Taylor. 0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.040 QLs had him on the show last year. 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.840 JT was with the group when they got inducted into 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.440 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and of course 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.000 he joined in the late seventies and the early eighties 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.160 boom and we really hit it off. There was some 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.440 serious flowers in this episode. JT has continued to really 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.760 support QLs and we love you JT. Taylor all right, 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:38.439 enjoy in the history of you being a professional singer, 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:44.440 as anyone ever yelled fire and rain to you from 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:45.040 the audience. 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.200 You did steal my question, Denton. 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:53.359 I was honestly wondering about that today about look at 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:54.160 his victory pose. 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.560 That's great. 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:56.439 No. 0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.480 I used to sort of study the publishing stuff, credits 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.520 and in like sort of books, and I was always 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:07.439 wondering if if the publishing ever got crossed between you guys, 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:08.560 you know, and anything. 0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.840 Not the money at that time he was making big 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.520 money and we weren't. But uh, but I used to 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:19.640 when I first went solo. The publishers got things mixed up. 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.440 In fact, at the at the Rock and Roll Hall 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.800 of Fame, he came over to my room and I'm 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.320 in the dressing room and he came over to meet me. 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:29.600 He said, I always wanted to beat you. 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.640 I said, really, and no, that was the first time 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:33.160 y'all met. 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.840 That's the first time we met, right. 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.199 I wish I could have been there for that. 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.200 Yeah, man, And he came over and we hugged each 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:44.159 other and we share share some you know, conversation, and 0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.080 I told him that story. I said, I was getting 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.919 these like kind of country songs, man, and you know, 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.520 my my manager said, wait a minute, I think this 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.520 supposed to me for the other James Taylor. So we 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.639 had a laugh and I said, I want to do 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.399 something with you, and he said, let's do that. You know, 0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:01.920 so that might happen in the near few my voices. 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:02.800 I approve of that. 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:08.720 Do you know Marvin ever heard You're not to him 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:10.399 on take my heart if you want it? 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.800 I don't know, man, but I'll bell tell you because 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.040 you know I'm a big Marvin fan as well. But 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.639 we were doing the that's when I was still with Cool. 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.560 We did the rain I think the Rainbow Room or 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.160 the Rainbow Theater in London. 0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.520 And we're on stage because I don't know what song 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.200 we were singing, and I looked to my left over 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:36.000 in the corner and Marvin is standing in the way, man, 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:36.720 almost like. 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:37.800 There at the time. 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.359 Yeah, he was living there, right, so of course I 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.639 had to bring him on and just walking on stage 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:47.840 place with berserk and you know, he walked off and 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.440 we were taking a picture to the other look, he's 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:51.480 looking over at me like. 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.119 This, you know, looking down on me. He said, j T. 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:55.760 You know I can slam dunk you. 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.640 You know that, right, I. 0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.240 Said, bro, I can play ball too, but let's do this. 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.040 We never got to play. 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:02.760 But he was. 0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:04.680 He was amazing. 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:05.040 Man. 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.840 I would have loved to just tick the ball to 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:09.199 him a little bit because he was a tall He 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.560 was kind of a tall guy. 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:12.520 Would have been tough. 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:14.560 But yeah, but uh no, I don't know if he 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:15.080 ever did. 0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.080 It's one of my favorite Ada libes of viewers. 0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.680 I was actually talking to George because George wrote the song, 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:26.400 and he was like, I said, like. 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:31.800 Marvin, Marvin, huh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly exactly. 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:34.720 You know, there was a time period in which videos 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.320 were not necessary but could be an option to help 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.800 you sell a little more if you were trying to 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:42.720 get your stuff played on like Top of the Pops 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.720 or you know, if you couldn't get to Europe in time. 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:47.560 What was the video process like? 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:53.960 Because even that video for Misled, which I'll never understand, 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.080 like are you just showing up? And like okay, it's 0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:01.000 a chase scene with in Indiana Jones and a bunch 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.400 of white dancing around me, Like yeah. 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.760 Right, well, you know, you know, of course I've always 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.160 been into film, you know, and like even right now, 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:10.600 you know. 0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:14.400 My future project that I'm working on now I'll tell 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:15.480 you about that in a minute. 0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.240 But because I was in the film earlier in my life, 0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.440 I was able to when videos came along, I could 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:22.880 process everything that's happened. 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:26.240 Because most of our songs was like a storyboard. And 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.880 you mentioned Misled, it was about you know, it was 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.600 basically Caalice's. 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.080 Life story, part of his life story, and my my input, 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.480 and it was the metaphor of the white dancer was 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:42.719 like she was like the cocaine that people were taking, 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.600 you know, misleading, looking beautiful and everything and taking you 0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:51.800 down that rabbit hole, you know, and my nephew who 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:56.240 played me as a young kid, Yeah, that was my nephew, yeah, 0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.440 you know. And so to bring that part, and that 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:03.000 was the the book and the special effects. So and 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.800 then the one thing that happened on that video is 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.520 that we said, how are we going to get the 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.640 band in? And I wrote most of that concept and 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.960 I said, well, you guys are going to be you know, 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:17.320 incognito as well. And it's a dream state. So that's 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.959 why you know, that happened. And when we came at 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.080 the end and they were like j T, we got 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:23.400 to go, man, we got a gig to do. 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.360 They were in the dream and that's when they turned around. 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:31.120 So Michael definitely influenced that as far as the video 0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:32.600 because remember MTV. 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:36.120 Wasn't playing us, and Michael turned that around. 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.480 So that's when the whole video thing for black artists 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.480 started kicking in. And we knew that Michael had raised 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.959 the bar. So we had to raise the bar because 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.840 if you remember, on most of the charts, if we 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.160 knew Michael was coming, we had to get our position first, 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.000 you know, because came you know, we're going to knock 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.880 you out a number one, but being there in the 0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.600 top five, top ten, that means in the stores your 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.600 music was right there along inside his and it would 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:09.160 help your sales. Yeah, all of that the video world 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.000 actually helped me with the project I'm doing. 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.480 Now and what my future is going to be. 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.000 Got it at the time. Do you guys get invited 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:22.760 to do band aid? Like, do you have any ankling 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.760 of the clue what you guys walked into? 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.320 No, because we were on tour again. 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:28.840 I just had a night off in London. 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.680 We were actually just I don't know if we I 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:34.760 think we did have a night off. 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.840 But the thing that bothered me was that they had mentioned, 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.640 I think on the news of something that you know, 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.600 it was all of these big stars there and when 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.920 we got there, there was no cameras and I remember 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.360 telling DT, I said, you know, with the press, man, 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.040 I'll be you all people telling about the press and 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:58.160 we walked in. No one said, you know, okay, JT, 0:31:58.320 --> 0:31:59.880 you're going to be doing this and it's going to 0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:01.560 be and that we kind of just walked in the 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.080 studio and there was everybody was just sitting around the 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:08.440 room and and Phil Collins and and Geldolph and they 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.040 were behind the board and they just kind of waved 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:16.600 and you know, and later on I thought somebody mentioned 0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:20.760 that they wanted me to do the part that what 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.600 to Night thank God, and I didn't. And I'm glad 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.840 they didn't ask me because I would have never done that. 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:31.560 Bear Bono's line, thank God it's you, it's them instead 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.680 of you. I said, well, no, I would have never 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:38.200 sang that anyway, because that's just a little too much 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.600 for me. You know, I wouldn't thank God it's you. 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.720 You know that, that's not my vibe, you know what 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.960 I mean. But yeah, it was. It was awesome, man, 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:47.880 but we still didn't know how it was going to 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.600 come out. I just enjoyed, you know, meet and you know, 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.920 Sting and Phil, but it was it was intense. 0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:55.680 It was like no. 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.840 Time to really hang out and talk about it. And 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.360 when they put us all on stands together, it was 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.040 just like, Okay, this is what we're. 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:03.320 Going to sing. 0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:07.240 We learned the song and we went through the process. 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.840 For you, what was the best Like when you think 0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.240 of like the good times or whatever, like places you played, 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.320 or even people you met or people that you never 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:22.000 thought you meet, what's a career highlight for you of 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.480 something like like, wow, I can't believe this happened. 0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.040 There's many, okay, But. 0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:33.640 I think going to Africa for the first time was 0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:40.200 monumental because I remember when we were at House of 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:44.280 Music once and this was doing a part type and 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:50.080 this agent came to the studio and asked us to play. 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.960 And that's when everybody was refusing to play some city. 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:54.560 It was part of. 0:33:54.520 --> 0:34:01.080 Our protests, and I remember looking at this guy almost 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.160 tearing up that how could he have the nerve to 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.800 come here and ask us to perform there, knowing the 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.920 atrocities that were going on, right And I remember we 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:19.760 got a silver record I think from South Africa, and 0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:21.959 when we got it, I said, I refuse to hang 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:27.839 this up in my house until Mandela is freed, and 0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:32.200 I put it in the closet, and when he was freed, 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.600 I took it out and celebrated that. But I think 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:40.280 going to Liberia and then learning about. 0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.320 The slave quarters and where our people. 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.480 Were brought from the shores and things like that, the 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.920 Ivory Coast up and down, you know, And I'd always 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.759 felt like I didn't want to take money out of there, 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.279 like like I because it wasn't really built up as 0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.200 much like Ghana right like it is now, you know, 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.000 And I just didn't understand what I understood. But I 0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.800 didn't feel good about doing a concert and taking money 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.799 from a place that we should have just left it there, 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:13.640 you know. 0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:18.200 But I think Africa was. It's still to this day, 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.200 the feeling I get that touches my heart most. 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.279 One. Congratulations on getting in the Rock and Roll Hall 0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:28.640 of Fame. 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:30.200 Yes, thank you. 0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.920 Were you surprised or were you actively hoping for this? 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:35.239 Well? 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.560 You know, I tell the story. 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:39.719 I said, it's when I think back to being at thirteen, 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.880 you never think about it. You never think about any accolades, 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:45.040 at least I did. 0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:47.799 My whole thing was just a love for music, man. 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:51.439 And you know, when they told us about the rock 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.960 of course, I called all my family and I think 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:58.120 they announced it on the American Idol or something like that, 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:00.920 and we were all sitting around watching waiting for it 0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:02.879 to come on. When they said bam, cool in the gang, 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:06.200 my phone jumping off the hook, people talking about how 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:06.879 can I get there? 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:07.560 I want to come. 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.279 We had a lot of family there, but it was 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:17.120 just a culmination of all of the years of the sweat, 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:20.520 being away from my family, having my family there and 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:24.200 enjoying some of it, coming into cooling the gang and 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:28.560 then leaving the group. And also, you know, I brought 0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.960 everything from Hackensack High School to you know, the bands 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.840 I was in to you know, Jersey City. 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.520 Anybody that I met along the way were a part 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:39.680 of it. 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:45.200 And that's including you, your group, the Philly Sound, motown Son, 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.040 you know anything. 0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:47.319 It was like I was. 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:49.760 It was like I was bringing all. 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.080 Of you with me, you know, and then of course, 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.000 you know, to find out that you were going to 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.280 be with me, I'm. 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.520 Like, oh man, this is too good to be true, 0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:57.960 you know. 0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.320 So you know when I walked up and met you, 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.520 you know, like yo, right in the middle of playing Yo, man, 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:03.960 what's up? 0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:05.680 And I got a good picture. I want to say 0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:06.840 to you about that too. 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.520 But I was nervous, man, and like, you know, well 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:10.320 you were nervous. 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:11.960 Come on, man, you were smacking. 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:16.160 Na I mean, but just you the only legendary illuminaria like. 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.440 My life soundcheck track that I haven't met yet, you 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:20.920 know what I mean. 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.040 So, yeah, it was awesome. 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:25.080 In the cool and. 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:30.960 Gang adjacent universe, there's Leeroy Burgess. Last month, Fonte cited 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.120 this twenty twenty three to two part of Conversation that's 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.319 one of the most underrated episodes of QLs. We were 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.160 delighted to have Lee Roy with us, and he. 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.319 Gave us the kind of history that you can't find. 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:48.120 In a Wikipedia page, while we got the chance to 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:51.120 celebrate his career. Let's listen in as he tells us 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:58.520 about a musical bloodline that is truly mind blowing. You know, 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.480 I told, like some of my friends and luminaries and 0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.839 music heads that you were coming on the show. I 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.240 have to say, you're probably the most connected human being 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:13.040 I know, because the first response that every music head 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.080 tells me when I'm like, yo, we're about to get 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.960 him on the show, they tell me like, Yo, you 0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.040 know he's related to Tom Bell, right, Yo? 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.560 You know he's related to Archie Bell, right, Yo? You 0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.880 know he's related to how many the bells bells? 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:31.040 So you're trying to tell me that Tom and Robert 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.360 and Ronald of Cool and Gang and Al Bell. 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:38.360 Of Stacks and Archie Bell of that you're all related? 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:39.080 Yes? 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:40.240 Wow? 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:44.959 How come no one has? Yeah? 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:49.040 I don't know. Listen, you do well. 0:38:50.360 --> 0:39:01.560 With that Patty LaBelle No, no, right, I thought Patty 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:02.280 was the strength. 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:10.680 But Ricky Bell Ricky Yes, Okay, we are all the 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:17.560 descendants of an enslaved individual named Prince Bell from the 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:22.520 eighteen twenties and eighteen you know, eighteen sixties, seventies or 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:23.240 something like that. 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:28.200 Prince Belle had a total of three wives. With each 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:33.879 of his wedding unions, he made a bunch of kids, right, 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.920 those kids became my grandparents and my mom and my 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:43.040 dad and the same as two full Tom Bell or 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:46.840 the Bell Brothers from Cooon, the Gang, Jerry Bell from 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:53.279 the Dads band Bell Al Bell, Ricky Bell from Bell 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.080 Bidevaux Tom. 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.959 I was only playing that's real, goddamn. 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.680 Outside of the Bell family or Judge Mathis, Greg Mathis 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:08.880 is a cousin, and the actor Richard browntree Is, all 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.640 of us are descendants of Prince Bell. 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:13.880 I also heard Betty Right as well. 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:14.759 Betty Right. 0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:18.200 I met Betty Right and. 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.080 Are we relatedly working? 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:20.839 Right? 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:22.120 We all? 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:22.480 Well? 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.320 I believe that I believe that I'm related to everybody. 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.839 In the world. I mean, well, I see why that's crazy. 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.480 Yeah, So shout out to our fire burges who also 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.240 I mean you know fire right. 0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.400 Uh yeah, yeah, player absolutely. 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:43.440 Absolutely fire urges who definitely want this episode to happen 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.359 while you are connected to everyone, right. 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.000 So when I think about where, you know, was it 0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:56.400 I predestined to enter the music industry, I'm kind of 0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:03.360 leaning towards feeling like that because there's so many loom 0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.920 nerves in my family that are not just in entertainment 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:11.640 but in music specifically, who have made a definitive monk 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:17.120 on the industry as a whole. So I'm just bringing 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:17.400 up the. 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.279 Rear Common's Bell thing might be real too. 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.760 I'm just saying it was predetermined, like your your future 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:28.719 was everyone in your family has singing talent, and it's 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:30.360 push the envelope. 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:31.120 That's crazy. 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.760 Can I just ask who found who first? Like when 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:37.440 did y'all know that this was the story behind your family? 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:37.960 Yeah? 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:39.200 Tom Bell. 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.120 Back in my when. 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.279 I was very very Alexander. 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.879 Four, five and six and stuff like that, he used 0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.640 to come to the family picnics down that we used 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.600 to have down in Jamesburg, New Judge. We still have 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.480 him in the same place every year. He used to 0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:58.880 come and I used to follow him around like a 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.920 little pubblic dog. Right, because he was always talking music. 0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:07.280 That's that was then he stopped coming right fairt forward 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:11.879 to about nineteen somewhere in the nineteen nineties, the Bell 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.360 the South Jersey Bell Picnic couldn't happen, So the North 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:20.359 Jersey Bell the Bell Aiken's Picnic happened, and my mother 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.719 traveled to that because I was on the road. Right, 0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:30.120 That's where my mother met Cool's Cool and Robert and 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.520 Ronald and Ali and Kevin's mother and she was son 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:39.359 sings my son's things in the music. Also my son Hell, 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.720 who's your son Black Habby? Who's jo son Coonigan? 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:43.080 Oh? 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:44.920 We need to do right? 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:45.800 So wow. 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:53.120 So that's how they And then a wonderful cousin of 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.560 mine that I didn't know, I met her on Facebook. 0:42:55.880 --> 0:43:00.160 Her name is Geneva Norman Right, and she asked she 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.319 was a cousin and she relaid, and then she presented 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:08.000 me with a document, the Bell family history, going all 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:12.560 the way back to Prince Belle right, and it contained 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:19.240 every single everybody in the whole family, including all my brothers, 0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:23.920 all my siblings, all my cousins, all you know. It 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:28.200 was just really a definitive document, sixteen page document that 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.840 told me who everybody was and where everybody was, and 0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:37.759 so forth and so on. So as I proceeded through 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:42.440 life after finding that out. The last one that I 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.839 met officially was Betty She was called to the look. 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:50.560 When she was called to her ascension, I met on 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:54.799 the National R and B Music Society was giving her 0:43:55.680 --> 0:44:00.839 a Lifetime Achievement award, and I was, you know, I 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:06.440 was at president at that awards presentation, and I walked 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.920 over to her after she got the award and I said, congratulations. 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:15.439 Was right by the way, I'm a descendant of Prince Bell. 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:23.560 And she jumped up and said cousin and and and 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.719 and so you know, things like that. That's been my 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:31.319 life to to uh with Jerry Bell from dazz Man 0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.879 and formerly of new Birth. He was the lead thing 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:34.439 of new Birth. 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:35.000 Uh. 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:40.240 Yes, I performed with new Birth, and I believe didn't 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.400 didn't He eventually join Cool in the Gang in eighty 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.240 seven when JT left. 0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.399 Jerry Bell was the one that sing led her web. 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:51.840 Yes, yes, yes. 0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:56.399 He Oh. That explains it. That explains it. 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:02.799 That is what yo, Because you don't understand when they 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:08.919 made an album nineteen eighty seven or eighty eight, and 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:13.560 you know Jat had left the group and they did 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.880 an appearance on Soul Train and Don was trying to 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:18.560 put two and two together, like, wait, where I know 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:18.879 you from? 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.920 Where I know you from? He said, Oh, man, Dad's 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:28.920 been and that is wow. Okay they're cousins. 0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:38.680 Yeah, that is crazy all right. 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.560 So in twenty twenty one, we also had Stephanie Mills 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.680 on the show. Stephanie Dinomant's words when it came to 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.680 her opinions on things, but she did with a love 0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:50.920 and care for the music, especially her peers. And you know, 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:54.680 Team Supreme showered Stephanie love and she gave it right back, 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.840 and there's a clip reflective of that energy. 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.040 Makes sense of what's happening today at all? 0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:04.080 Or is it just like R and B. 0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:09.000 Well, I think that they've just kind of like killed 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.600 dur and B. They're trying to but we're trying to 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.239 hold on to it as you know. No, I think 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:19.400 it's very easy for people today to become pop stars 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:23.680 and they use the word legends and icons and things 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:29.560 very loosely, and I think that's why a lot of 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.520 people can't sing live. I mean a lot of shows 0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:36.080 are taped a lot of shows you'd be surprised. I've 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.239 been on the road with quite a few artists, and 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:43.759 mostly predominantly all their whole show is taped. Yeah so, 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:48.400 but I come from theater, you know, And I'm so glad. 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.960 I'm so thankful every day that, you know, I've learned 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.719 how to sing, whether I can hit that note that night, 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.719 or point to my background singer and hit it. But 0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:00.239 what I do before I go on the road. Does 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.000 I sing all my songs every day so that I 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:07.319 can sound somewhat like I sounded, you know, and and 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:09.719 and people won't be scared to hear me. I do 0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.319 sing every day because I just love to sing. But 0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:16.120 today's music, I don't think any of today's music you'll 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:20.000 hear five and ten, fifteen years from now, like you 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:24.399 do Stevie and Aretha and and and the people from 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.120 the seventies and eighties. I don't think that you'll hear 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.400 this music today. 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:31.560 Not one y'all don't. 0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:33.839 I'm trying to think in my head like you. I'm sorry, 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.520 I was trying to argue that fact, but okay. 0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:37.440 I don't do. 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:38.600 I don't know. 0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:42.920 I mean, I love Jasmine Sullivan, but I feel I 0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:47.319 love her as a vocalist, Deborah Cox. I think it's 0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.120 a brilliant vocalists. 0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:50.760 And. 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.160 But that's still not in this in the next to 0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.080 ten years, in this last years. 0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:58.840 That's not that's not like immediate. 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:02.200 Like do you think that we'll hear Cardi b stuffed ten. 0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:03.200 To fifteen years from them? 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:03.759 No? 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:08.239 Man, So you know that. And that's not to take 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:09.719 away from anybody. 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.960 I'm not because I don't knock anybody's hustling, But I 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.160 just don't think that you know, their music is gonna 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.360 last ten to fifteen years. 0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:21.319 For me, Miss Stephan, I was gonna ask, so with 0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:24.719 your jam with hip hop? When hip hop, you know, 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:30.440 kind of came into the just into the industry. You know, 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.600 every episode of Unsung they all have the same story. 0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.560 It's like they they were doing great and then rap 0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:37.359 it was over. 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:40.640 You know what I'm saying. How what was it like 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:41.120 for you? 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.200 You know what I'm saying when you saw the industry 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.560 kind of starting to shift and you saw what hip 0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:46.440 hop was becoming. 0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.239 What was that like for you? And what was your 0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:52.879 relationship to hip hop? If any I didn't have. 0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:56.040 A relationship with hip hop, but I enjoyed it. 0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:58.400 I mean I I don't know. 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.040 I guess some different because I just I just keep 0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.799 doing me. I just kept doing what I did. I 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.960 didn't try to change and try to adapt, you know, 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:11.040 I just I just kept doing another version of me 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.960 whatever that. You know, just keep doing another version of me. 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:18.280 I love hip hop, you know I I would. I 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.680 Oh my Christmas album I rapped, I wrapped the Red. 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:29.920 Bars, you know, Yes, I don't know. 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.160 I just I you know, everybody has their thing to do, 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.920 and I think, you know, hey, you just keep on 0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:37.480 going and to come back around. 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.200 I've seen it, but it didn't bother you like the 0:49:40.320 --> 0:49:42.040 Unsung bother me. 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:46.000 No, I didn't freak out about it now because I could. 0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.880 Always go and do theater. I can do other things. 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:49.560 So I didn't. 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:50.520 I didn't like. 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:54.400 Oh god, no, I didn't want anymore anyway. 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.239 If there was a show, what would the show? Is 0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:58.759 there a show you have in mind that you would 0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.880 love to do as far as the theater, Yes. 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:03.680 Melbourne and I are going to do Run. 0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:06.120 It's a woman show. 0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:07.760 Make it happen. 0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:09.200 We're writing it now. 0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:10.680 Oh yes, I'm here. 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:11.359 We're here for that. 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:13.280 We're writing. 0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.080 Melbourne is just wonderful on stage. We did a We 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.640 did a show called up If Your Hat to Talk, 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.839 and it was just wonderful being on stage with her. 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:24.520 I can't wait. 0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:27.160 Talk recently and that she was like, let's work together. 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:27.960 I said, let's do it. 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:28.799 We found a writer. 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:30.080 So they're writing it now. 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:31.879 Oh it's good. 0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:33.160 Get my ears ready? 0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:37.239 Okay, since I wasn't going to ask the question, but 0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:41.440 I mine as well. Have you heard back from Sam 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:45.279 Smith back at him? 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:50.640 Oh? Holy forgot about that. She's the she brought smoke. 0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:51.880 I love. 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:56.239 You know what it is? This is really what it is. 0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:56.800 Talk about it. 0:50:57.480 --> 0:51:02.319 People don't really know my personality because I've always just 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.239 been a singer and on Broadway. But I'm really just 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.040 a hood girl from Brooklyn, you know what I'm saying. 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:12.080 I'm really just that that girl. And I love Michael. 0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:14.440 He's not here to take care of herself and I 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.840 to speak up for herself. And I get tired of 0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:21.080 people who I know have copied sounds. I mean, Sam 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:30.960 Smith is nothing but Sylvester all over. So you know, 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:34.719 when you say you don't like our music, how can 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.720 you say that? So I really had to. I felt 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.240 like I have to say something. And my manager's always 0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.680 like Okay, I'm gonna let you say this, but you 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:45.359 gotta say it like this, because sometimes I just think 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.719 people need to back off. 0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.560 I don't like when they're they need an education. 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.080 And they need an education, they need it. And I 0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:55.959 don't think people should say things about people and they're 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:59.000 not here to defend themselves. I mean, if you wanted to. 0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.280 It's just like when fifty he was talking about Michael 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.279 and you know, and then his daughter said, please don't 0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:08.799 talk about my father, and then fifty wanted to, you know, go, 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.239 she's a child, you know so I kind of I said, 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:14.320 why don't you talk to me? I'm more your speed, 0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:18.000 I'm older, you know. So I just I just don't 0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:19.280 like when people are bullies. 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:20.320 I don't like bullies. 0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:21.520 I don't. 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.879 There you go, Stephanie Miles. I'm telling you, Stephie Mills 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:27.840 deon word they said in Twitter on fire. 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:32.920 Okay, he doesn't play, Leon does not play. 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:34.480 And you know who didn't. 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:35.120 Play, Aretha? 0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:36.120 Aretha didn't play. 0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:36.840 She didn't really. 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:41.000 Oh now what was she like? Did you y'all have 0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.040 worked together and anything or were y'all just colleagues. 0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.440 I lived in Detroit for a couple of years. And 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:48.480 she used to come. I did a play there and 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.799 she used to come and see me, and towards the 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.279 end of her life we would talk. I talked to 0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.840 her about two months before she passed away, and she 0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:00.560 told me a lot of things about Motown and how 0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:04.680 Barry started it and how his sister was involved and 0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:08.800 a father, and it's a conversation I could never talk about. 0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:13.600 But I Lovedaretha. But Aretha took no prisoners. 0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:15.560 When I tell you, she didn't, she didn't. 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:21.680 Yeah, So I you know, I guess in closing, I 0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.239 would just like to know from this journey you had, like, 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.920 what is your in her career with so many highlights 0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.719 in it, what is your like, your your favorite what 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:36.440 means the most to you of your entire journey, your 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:37.240 creative journey. 0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:44.800 That I'm still here, That I didn't get on drugs. 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:49.480 I didn't, you know, because I think about Whitney, and 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.200 I think about Michael, and I think about Prince, I 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:56.040 think about Gerald and so many times as artists, we 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.920 have so much pressure and wait on us that just 0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:04.680 destroys us. And people don't really understand sometimes what an 0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.360 artist is going through. So I think that I'm still here, 0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:11.440 and somewhat my right mind, and that I enjoyed it. 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:15.840 I'm able to enjoy it and sit back and relax 0:54:15.920 --> 0:54:17.760 and just enjoy it. 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:19.520 All right. 0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:23.800 Yeah, compliments are important, I know, learning how to take it. 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:27.279 When we have Bernardette Cooper or on QLs. 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:30.360 The singer from Climax, and that conversation seems supreme. 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:34.440 And I pointed out how Bernadette's style and persona or 0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.440 it was kind of a precursor to hip hop, name dropping, 0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:38.000 design of. 0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:39.439 Brands, confidence, etc. 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:39.960 Etc. 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:42.600 It was great to share with them. This was a 0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:44.239 different way of giving flowers. 0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:50.520 I felt, right, if you really look at the character 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:54.160 that you built, I mean, it's so it's such a 0:54:54.160 --> 0:55:01.120 precursor to what hip hop became ten years later. You 0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:04.520 are probably the first person I ever heard name drop 0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:09.440 like Versace. Yeah, names I never heard of before that 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:13.799 rappers would start just I became their birthright ten years later. 0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:20.360 And in Tiva, In Tiva, I was fearless. You have 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.000 to understand she and I was and I was in 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:26.680 and I was in too close and they started sending 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:31.279 me close and I just kind of like, I just 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:32.160 kind of spoke my mind. 0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:35.279 I wish I really allowed myself to have, you. 0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.239 Know, now you have to be a little bit more 0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.239 resolved because everybody is so sensitive and the things that 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:40.920 you say. 0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.640 You know, but that's what age was for, so you 0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:45.120 don't have to do you know. 0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.160 You know, I even think about it, you know, I 0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:50.399 even think about my demographics, what they want to hear 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:52.480 from me, you know, they you know, and I don't 0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.760 want to continue and be a caricature of my old self. 0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:56.160 You know. 0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:58.560 I was going to say, do you get tired of 0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:03.120 having to turn it on in a snap like other 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.719 days where you just wish like you never had to 0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.000 invent that character too? 0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.520 You know, I'm naturally a. 0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:15.960 Comedian, so I'm always that comes very easy from me. 0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:18.839 The character is easy. The character is more easier than 0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:19.840 me being myself. 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:20.840 You know. 0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:24.319 Yeah, I could bring the character, and I'm much more 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:28.000 comfortable on stage than I am anywhere, you know, so 0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:30.399 I don't struggle with it at all. 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:31.880 I don't struggle with it. 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:36.319 I'm working on now in the product that you hear 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:40.080 me putting out is kind of the evolution of Bernadette 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.440 Cooper and me who has evolved into the woman and 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.319 kind of like slowing down a little bit so that 0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:49.600 I can perform my songs way until you know, I 0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:52.600 get older and older, my songs will be able to 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:54.600 And I wish I could do a song on an 0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.200 album on Janet Jackson because I think she would be 0:56:57.239 --> 0:56:59.000 good at doing that so she doesn't have to get 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.920 up and do realthm nation and then all of those things. 0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.960 That's a lot to be dancing and all that. 0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:06.920 You know, now's the time to kind of slow it 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:09.799 down and go into the new you and your and 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:13.200 your demographics will follow because they they're there too. 0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.160 They're there too. There's a tram age, you know. 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:18.960 So that's what I'm doing right now with the projects 0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:20.480 that I'm that I'm working on. 0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:25.480 Thank you for listening in good people, and we have 0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.680 more Maine Flowers on QLs dropping next week. 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:29.640 Stay tuned. 0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:46.480 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. For 0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:49.680 more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.960 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.