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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Smitha and welcome to Steph.

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Speaker 1: I never told your protection. I heart Radio, Samantha. As

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Speaker 1: as movie theaters are slowly opening, I have some friends

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Speaker 1: do you have any memorable theater experiences? So I am

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Speaker 1: not a movie goer, like I don't love it. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like the ones that I remember best are

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Speaker 1: the ones that I went to like late night. So

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Speaker 1: And then one of them would be the Twilight movie

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Speaker 1: and there was a lot of love to that. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was good. That was super Bowl. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: I love going to the movies, and part of that

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Speaker 1: each other. Yes, that is true. I I think I

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Speaker 1: told the story before. But when I was in college,

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Speaker 1: which for this feminist movie Friday, we are wrapping up

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Speaker 1: or look at Star Wars with these Star Wars sequel holes,

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Speaker 1: and there are going to be some spoilers if you

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Speaker 1: have not seen them all, although we did accidentally spoil

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Speaker 1: so sorry about that. And yes, we promised that the

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Speaker 1: Star Wars movie talk is coming to an end for

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Speaker 1: now because we still want to get Holly from stuff

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Speaker 1: you miss in history class. To talk about Rogue one.

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Speaker 1: They are definitely Star Wars characters women characters that I

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Speaker 1: will absolutely be more Star Wars, just not specifically about

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Speaker 1: they're on the vintage section of the Star Wars content

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Speaker 1: now so you can, you too, can watch Wilford Brimley

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Speaker 1: And it was a lovely, lovely time. Yes, And then

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Speaker 1: Last Jedi. And then the most recent one, Rise of Skywalker,

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Speaker 1: lot of behind the scene speculation about why this was

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Speaker 1: that Disney exams. We're worried about the backlash again of

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Speaker 1: an interracial couple if they went the Ray Finn route,

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Speaker 1: because white women should not be with black people apparently.

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Speaker 1: But you know, they're gonna put all the minorities together,

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Speaker 1: because that makes sense, col Um. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: Finn and Poe we're at one time supposed to get together.

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Speaker 1: Both actors expressed their willingness and disappointment that the storyline

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Speaker 1: didn't pin out, and again, yeah, that makes sense because

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Speaker 1: of the fears from higher ups about backlash once again, Um,

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Speaker 1: And there's a cut between two women at the end

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Speaker 1: of the lastestallment. But it feels like more like tokenism

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Speaker 1: to be like, see we're cool, look at us. Extremely

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Speaker 1: brief too. It's like yeah, so fast. Yeah. And also

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Speaker 1: Kylo Red and Slash pen Sola was related to Ray. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's weird. They're continuing updating Cannon around that, so I

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Speaker 1: guess now they aren't I don't know. It's pretty bessy

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Speaker 1: and their relationship has touches of an abusive wood. But

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Speaker 1: I have now learned no One Palpatine, which was my

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Speaker 1: big question after the Rise of Skywalker, his son and

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Speaker 1: snow cor Strand cast which I suspect is what is

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Speaker 1: up with the Imperials wanting Greggy slash baby Oodes blood

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Speaker 1: in the Mandalorian. But unless I'm wrong, Palpatine forced impregnated

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Speaker 1: Chami Skywalker, who gave birthday Anakin Skywalker, so related, I

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Speaker 1: would think so, I would think so. But hey, but

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Speaker 1: all right, let's let's talk about some of other female

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Speaker 1: characters really quickly, starting with Rose, and we probably will

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Speaker 1: come back and cover these women more in depth, especially

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Speaker 1: if you listeners right into it. Let us know if

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Speaker 1: that's something you would like. But yes, Rose Tycho was

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Speaker 1: played by Kelly Marie Tran, the first one of color

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Speaker 1: to play a leading role in Star Wars films, and

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Speaker 1: in she became the first Asian American woman to appear

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Speaker 1: the character. Rose was introduced in Rhan Johnson's film The

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Speaker 1: Last Jedi as a loyal resistance officer, a mechanic whose

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Speaker 1: sisters sacrifice hangs over her to most of us anyway,

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Speaker 1: she she wasn't a book prior to this, and she's

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Speaker 1: the protagonist of several comics and appears in TV shows

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Speaker 1: and video games, but most of us were introduced to

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Speaker 1: Rose in this movie. She and her sister had joined

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Speaker 1: the Resistance after watching their homeworld be decimated by the

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Speaker 1: First Order. She's hopeful, determined, creative, open, clever, and loyal.

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Speaker 1: She can see both a bigger picture. In the end

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Speaker 1: of it was making it up. She's instrumental and saving

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Speaker 1: the Resistance and last Jedi. She also serves as sort

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Speaker 1: of an every fan, a fan getting pulled into the action,

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Speaker 1: like when she meets Finn and she's like, are you

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Speaker 1: Finn deefin uh? Sort of a fan stand in yeah

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Speaker 1: she uh. She does climb the ranks and plays a

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Speaker 1: pivotal role in the Rise of Skywalker, and it mostly

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Speaker 1: had been majorly reduced due to racist and sexist backlash,

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Speaker 1: including her weight, which is stupid. Despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: she was critically very well received. She everybody was so excited.

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Speaker 1: I remember that was the one thing I knew about it,

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Speaker 1: and I was excited. I was like cool. Tran was

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Speaker 1: role and struggled with the isolation of filming due to confidentiality.

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Speaker 1: She bonded with the actor John Boyega over it, and

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Speaker 1: she did a lot of work and a lot of

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Speaker 1: training and tapped into her family's experience with the Vietnam War,

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Speaker 1: so she put a lot of effort into it. She did.

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Speaker 1: Tran underwent therapy to deal with all of this online.

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Speaker 1: Her askment it when angry fanboys edited her fan page

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Speaker 1: to include vulgaran racent comments, it made national headlines. Nicole

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Speaker 1: Carlos over at Salon Route. I kept help, but wonder

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Speaker 1: if trans character aligned with the misogynistic and racist stereotype

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Speaker 1: of Asian women as submissive and seductive. With the trolls

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Speaker 1: have still come out of note, some fans and celebrities

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Speaker 1: really came out in support of her, which was beautiful

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Speaker 1: to see and face of all this ugliness, and one

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Speaker 1: study suggested that the attacks on her were perpetrated by

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Speaker 1: Russian bots. Tran wrote an essay about the whole thing

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Speaker 1: for The New York Times called Kelly Marine Tran, I

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Speaker 1: won't be marginalized by online harassment, She wrote. Their words

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Speaker 1: reinforced a narrative I had heard my whole life that

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Speaker 1: I was other, that I didn't belong, that I wasn't

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Speaker 1: good enough, and simply because I wasn't like them, And

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Speaker 1: that feeling, I realized now was and is a shame,

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Speaker 1: A shame for things that made me different, a shame

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Speaker 1: for the culture from which I came from. When she

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Speaker 1: appeared on a panel and Star Wars celebration in tween nineteen,

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Speaker 1: she got a standing ovation and people chanting her name,

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Speaker 1: and she visibly teared up over it. Over at The Independent,

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Speaker 1: Clarice Lowfrey wrote that trans reception was not only heartening,

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Speaker 1: it was a moment of pure relief for so many

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Speaker 1: fans of the franchise, worried that the well had finally

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Speaker 1: been poisoned beyond repair. J. J. Abrams said, co I

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Speaker 1: was grateful to Ryan Johnson for a lot of things

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Speaker 1: he did in episode eight, The Last Jedi, and the

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Speaker 1: greatest for me was casting Kelly Marie. Yeah, but she

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Speaker 1: was barely in the Rise of Scott Walker. She was

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Speaker 1: definitely replaced by a hobbit um. She was in it

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Speaker 1: for less than two minutes, absent from merchandizing posters trailers,

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Speaker 1: prompting the hashtag wears Rose to trend and later hashtag

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Speaker 1: Rose Tico deserved better and hashtag justice for Rose. Credics

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Speaker 1: were out spoken about the admission to labeling as one

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Speaker 1: of the major she's of the film, saying it was

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Speaker 1: hard to feel like the trolls hadn't one. Absolutely they won,

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Speaker 1: like they absolutely cut her out. Whatever the reason may

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Speaker 1: have been, they could have done better, for sure, Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: And then there's Mas. She's played by Lapidio Yango. A

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Speaker 1: wise and scrappy pirate, queen and collector and also a

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Speaker 1: force sensitive A little force sensitive. She attempts to guide

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Speaker 1: Ray to accept the force and provides aid to the resistance.

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Speaker 1: Niango's performance was captured through motion capture. Han Solo describes

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Speaker 1: her as a quote acquired taste. She is centuries old

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Speaker 1: and a lover of the arts. Then there's Holdo, played

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Speaker 1: by a Laura Dern Vice Admiral Emlin Holdo. She appears

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Speaker 1: in the Last Jedi and his second in the chain

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Speaker 1: of command behind Leia, taking control when Leiah is sidelined

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Speaker 1: and oh my gosh fanboys and not like her either.

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Speaker 1: One of the things they hated about that movie was

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Speaker 1: how flashy pilot Po was called out for essentially man's planting,

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Speaker 1: And this is a character you're supposed to like. But

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Speaker 1: that's the point. Not everyone who does sexist things is

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Speaker 1: a horrible person. Not everyone who man's plants totally sex

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Speaker 1: Sometimes good guys do it too, and they need to

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Speaker 1: realize what they're doing, and Po grows and learns as

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Speaker 1: a character from this whole thing. There were also a

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Speaker 1: lot of criticisms around her feminine appearance, including from Poe,

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Speaker 1: her hair, her clothes, her jewelry. Basically that any woman

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Speaker 1: could be a leader dressed like that and could be

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Speaker 1: respected dress like that, that was impossible. She sacrificed herself

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Speaker 1: to save the Resistance with the wholda maneuver which some

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Speaker 1: fans say broke the Star Wars universe. I went down

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Speaker 1: that rabbit hole, and I was like, no one is

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Speaker 1: going to be interested in hearing my thoughts on this,

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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you that it is a controversy. She's

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Speaker 1: this eccentric, clever, dedicated, calm competent. She appears in several comics.

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Speaker 1: If you want more backstory on her. So one of

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Speaker 1: the main criticisms of her character is that she's painted

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Speaker 1: as the main antagonist in this film, only for it

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Speaker 1: to be a reversal as she becomes the hero at

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Speaker 1: the end. But because of how they painted it, it

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Speaker 1: didn't work, especially if you're rooting for a Poe. And however,

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Speaker 1: Poe himself used a phrase need to know, which was

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Speaker 1: essentially what he was really pissed about with Holdo that

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Speaker 1: and she wouldn't praise him. In fact, she criticized them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he was really mad because he give us like

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Speaker 1: demanding answers and she was like, you know, it's need

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Speaker 1: to know. Then later he's like, that's the exact same thing, right.

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Speaker 1: And a part of this is I think you're still

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Speaker 1: meant to side with Poe, or at least connect with them.

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Speaker 1: And it's a flip of the traditional storyline of ignoring

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Speaker 1: orders from your superior with the added layer of a

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Speaker 1: female leader and a male subordinate. Poe ignored orders from

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Speaker 1: Leah as well, and a bunch of people died because

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Speaker 1: of it. Holda and Leah's friendship is one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite parts of that movie, though they are a longtime friends,

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Speaker 1: Leah said about her after she died, Protecting the light

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Speaker 1: was more important to her than looking like a hero.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Leiah, I know we've talked about her

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Speaker 1: a million times before, but I think the key point

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Speaker 1: about her character are one of them is that she stayed.

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Speaker 1: Han left, Luke left, but Leah kept up the fight

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Speaker 1: and mentored the next generation. Leiah takes over raised training

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Speaker 1: after Luke's death, still hopeful and determined to strong and

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Speaker 1: wise despite so much tragedy. Again, so much tragedy, so much. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do have a little bit more for your listeners,

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Speaker 1: but first we have one more cup break forward from

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Speaker 1: her sponsor. Every back, Thank you sponsor. So we did

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Speaker 1: want to touch on Kathleen Kennedy, who is a huge

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Speaker 1: controversial flashpoint in the world of Star Wars. Kennedy is

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Speaker 1: a big time producer. Her first movie was Et the

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Speaker 1: Actual Terrestrial. The sixty plus films she's worked on have

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Speaker 1: wrecked upwards of eleven billion dollars, earned more than eight

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Speaker 1: OSCAR nominations, and with seven point five billion dollars in

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Speaker 1: box office re seats, she is in third place as

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Speaker 1: when it comes to producing, behind allmen Kevin Figy, and

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Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg. When she first got started out, she caught

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Speaker 1: the attention of Steven Spielberg and worked on several of

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Speaker 1: his projects. Just look for producer credits in popular movies.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you've seen her name before you've seen something

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Speaker 1: she has done. Right. So, in the early ninety nineties,

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Speaker 1: she and her husband, Frank of Marshall founded the Kennedy

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Speaker 1: Marshall Company, and she's received lots and lots of awards.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand twelve, but she left the Kennedy Marshall

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Speaker 1: Company to become a co chair of Lucasfilm Limited, next

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Speaker 1: to George Lucas, and she moved up to president when

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Speaker 1: Disney bought Lucasfilm out in chosen by Lucas himself, and

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Speaker 1: her contract is currently set to end in October one.

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Speaker 1: Which have you seen the rumor that George Lucas is

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Speaker 1: saying he's coming back? Yes? Always, always, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's true and what's false anymore. Okay, So every time

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Speaker 1: something goes wrong in quotes in Star Wars or is

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Speaker 1: not to the liking angry fans, she is almost always

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Speaker 1: bringed right or wrong. You've probably seen her name trending

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Speaker 1: out on Twitter in response to some perceived Star Wars issue,

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Speaker 1: especially with the sequel trilogy. UM. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: a part of that makes sense because she is the president,

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Speaker 1: but I really think she draws a lot more igher

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Speaker 1: and a lot more like personal attacks than perhaps a

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Speaker 1: male figure would. UM. So many headlines about how she's

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Speaker 1: going to get forced out of Star Wars. You may

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Speaker 1: have seen this recently when Dave Filoni was promoted at

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Speaker 1: Lucasfilm and he does a bunch of the like Mandalorian

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I definitely want to return to

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Speaker 1: this for a future episode. I just wanted to mention

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Speaker 1: it because I swear at least once a week I

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Speaker 1: see that she's trending and people about at her about

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Speaker 1: something related Star Wars, and they're like, she's gonna get

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Speaker 1: replaced by this person. We will see, yes, and one

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Speaker 1: day we're definitely going to return two Star Wars characters

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Speaker 1: like Rogue One's Ginner, so perhaps with Holly fry Um,

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Speaker 1: Kira from Solo, all the women in the shows. But

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Speaker 1: for now, that is what we have to say about

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Speaker 1: the Star Wars sequels. Please send any of your thoughts

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Speaker 1: are suggestions about what movies we should do next are

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Speaker 1: a way we keep a list. I swear it's not

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Speaker 1: all Star Wars all the time. You can emails at

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