1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: and course creator. We are two working parents who love 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. This 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: episode is airing in late May of twenty twenty six. 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: We are going to be talking all things summer. I 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: think we've had a summer episode probably every year since 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: we've started, right, Sarah. 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we can't help it, but just kind of 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 3: lean into getting excited about the upcoming seasons. And we 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: also know that pe are excited to think through what's 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: next with us. So we hope you enjoy this tradition 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: as much as we enjoy doing it. 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: I may have even run on the Tuesday after Memorial 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: Day a great many years as well as we are 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: putting it in now. It's sort of the unofficial start 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: of summer. Before we get into our summer content, though, 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to do a quick deep cluttering update so 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: people know that Sarah had set this as a goal 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: for the year, and you've been working with a pro 30 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: So, so Sarah, how's it going. 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, And just to remind you all, I set this 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: as a goal like a bunch of years, and this 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: is one of those things that I struggled with. So 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: this was finally the year I said, oh, okay, it 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: is clear I am not making progress on my own. 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to bite the bullet and hire someone to 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: help me. So I ended up finding a Khan Mari 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: organizer certified in my area. I knew I wanted someone 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: in person that would actually physically show up and force 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: me to do things, versus like some kind of online 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: program that I was theoretically supposed to follow along with 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: but could always move forward a few days until I 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: didn't do it. So I hired this lovely woman. Her 44 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: name is Sophie, and I think she's come maybe like 45 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: five or six times now. She comes in three hour blocks. 46 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: We scheduled them ahead of time, and we are going 47 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: in kind of typical Kan Marie style, doing one category 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: of items at a time, and I have to say 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: I have done so much more with Sophie than I 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: had accomplished on my own many years in a row. So, 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I'm so excited that I've finally made 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: some progress on this goal. I've done my whole closet 53 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: like really really well, so not only does she help 54 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: you weed things out, but she kind of helps arrange 55 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: things in a Kan Marie like way that makes sense. 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: I've done all of the books and paper in the 57 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: house that includes like going through all file folders that 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 3: kind of thing. It enabled me to also kind of 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: be inspired to go through some of the kids books. 60 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: We did all of the bathroom and any kind of 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: bathroom like supply old medicines, all of that kind of stuff. 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: And next is going to be the kitchen. So yeah, 63 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 3: I'm super happy. I don't know that we're going to 64 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: be like entirely finished the entire house by the end 65 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: of the year, but I don't care. I think as 66 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: long as I'm continuing to schedule appointments and makes steady 67 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: progress that I will be done close to that timeframe, 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: And if not, I would still call it a win 69 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: because this is like, yeah, wait, what are. 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: The major areas that still need to be done? 71 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: You said the kitchen, like is that it doesn't have 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: multiple zones or I mean, like what's the the kitchen. 73 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: I don't think will be hard. Actually, there are still 74 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: just like a lot of like called komono in conwary speak, 75 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 3: which is just like category of random stuff in a 76 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: number of rooms. The garage definitely needs some work. There's 77 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: like a kid's play area, so it's not necessarily space, 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: it's like more categories. We haven't done sentimental items yet, 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: so there's a good amount still to go. But again, 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's a noticeable amount of progress. And every 81 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: time I use my closet in my bathroom, I'm like, oh, 82 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: this is much better. 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. 84 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: Now I have not done any official decluttering lately, though 85 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: I do definitely think there's some areas that could use it. 86 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, stuff just builds back up. 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: I mean we had decluttered a lot of things, but 88 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: it does not stay that way, and especially when you 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: have many people living in a house. But one thing 90 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: I did do over the weekend is I threw out 91 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: a lot of old pairs of shoes. Sometimes you can 92 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: donate shoes like my daughter's dress shoes that no longer 93 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: fit her are definitely getting donated, but like little boy 94 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: sneakers that had been worn into, like nobody wants those, 95 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: but they had been in our mudroom. Like we had 96 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: nice bins in the mudroom, but like as the kids 97 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: outgrew shoes, the most recent old one would just wind 98 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: up in the bin. But then you keep getting new 99 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: shoes in every six months or so, and you know, 100 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: in two years, everyone's got four or five old pairs 101 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: of shoes in there. So I threw out a lot 102 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: of particularly Alex's, but some of Sam's old sneakers, and yeah, no, 103 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: that's just at least fewer shoes in that room. And 104 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: there's still a lot of shoes, but fewer than there were, 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: so that's help. 106 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: It's like you realize when you go to get shoes 107 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: and it's not annoying because you're not fishing through like 108 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: five that you're like, oh, that was helpful. 109 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: You don't see, well, you're not even the bins are 110 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: being used in that way, Like the bins are literally 111 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: only holding the old shits because they keep their most 112 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: recent shoe like out right got it, and they tend 113 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: not to go through different pairs so much. But you know, 114 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: still now the bins have more space at least I 115 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: got rid of a few that were sitting around, and 116 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: I put my coats in the closet, like the winter coats, 117 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: Like I still have one coat out because we even 118 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: recording this in May, like it could be forty eight 119 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 2: degrees in the morning at this point, and said the 120 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: coat may still be necessary. But the big ones were 121 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: moved and that created some open space as well. 122 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's a very exciting summer milestone, so perfectly on 123 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: topic for this episode. 124 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Are you decluttering your schedule at all for the summer soon? 125 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: Honestly, yeah, kind of. Cameron just well he sort of 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: swapped something out, but he stopped doing a basketball that 127 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: was very annoying the driving side, so I'm happy about that. Unfortunately, 128 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: my oldest set of fractures, so that decluttered a couple 129 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: of her dance classes that require use of your hand, 130 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: like acro, And then for me, I don't know, I'm 131 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: kind of like shifting around some workout stuff, so decluttering 132 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: some old types of things and thinking about maybe moving 133 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: into the gym for the summer. So yeah, just definitely 134 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: things are shifting around, and I've kind of said no 135 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: to continuing a couple of kids' athletic type commitments over 136 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: the summer because they're gonna be very active in camp. 137 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure we need to be like getting 138 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: up early for tennis, for example, on the weekend. 139 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, you may not need to get 140 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: up early for tennis on the weekend in life in general. Yeah, 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm My choirs stop in the summer, both of them. 142 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: By the time this is airing, My downtown choir will 143 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: have had our last concert of the season, and so 144 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: that will be done mid May. My church choir stops 145 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: singing by mid June. There's a summer choir, but it's 146 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: more casual. You just show up on Sunday morning if 147 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: you want to do it, if you're there that weekend, 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: and then so nothing will start up again till September. 149 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, I have a couple months off, which is 150 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: going to be mean that we'll have some time in 151 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: the evening. I will have some more time in the 152 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: evening because when both choirs are going, that's two hour rehearsals, 153 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: one of which is only ten minutes away, but the 154 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: other is like thirty minutes away. 155 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: So it does add up. 156 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll use the time to relax write the book 157 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: I need to write. 158 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: I was going to say, You're going to have some 159 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: expansive golden hours in the summer. So that works out 160 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: pretty well considering it's going. 161 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: To be a name to write the book about golden hours. Exactly, exactly. 162 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: All right, Well, so speaking of summer, what actually is 163 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: your summer landscape? 164 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Then, Sarah, what times are your kids off school? Theme? 165 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually pretty shocked to count the weeks 166 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: this summer and find that there are really only nine 167 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: weeks in which all of my children are not in school. 168 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: Genevieve does technical have ten weeks. They finished at the 169 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: same time this year, but the big kids school is 170 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: starting a week earlier. I think they're actually moving to 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: earlier because I have noted that their last day of 172 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: school in twenty twenty seven is in May, and I've 173 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: never actually seen that before. So we're just going full 174 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: Southern style early early school year. But yeah, so it's early, 175 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: and it is short. You've got like a month of 176 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: summer left when my kids are going back to school, 177 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 3: So this is like our I want to hear about 178 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: your time frame and what you plan to do with it, 179 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: But I'm just a little bit surprised that we don't 180 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: have as many weeks as I might have expected. What 181 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: about you. 182 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah, well that is shorter. That is definitely shorter. No, 183 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: we end in like mid June. 184 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: I think it's like the somewhere between the fifteenth and 185 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: seventeenth for all the kids. But then we don't start 186 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: till September eighth, so we have a full week in September. 187 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: I think everyone will basically just be going feral by 188 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: that point because there's not a whole lot of camps 189 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: that are running the first week of September, so I'm 190 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: not quite sure how that's. 191 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Going to go. 192 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: I would travel that is such a prime travel week 193 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: because everything's discounted. I feel like because no one else 194 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: has that week. Yeah, I mean. 195 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see. 196 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean I will have just we will have had 197 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: the two weeks at the beach yes in August, and 198 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: then I will have had sort of a longer work 199 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: trip that I'm coming back from. So I don't know 200 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: that I'm going to be that excited to like take 201 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: off with people again. And we've had some pushback of 202 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: being gone right up until the start of school from 203 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: the kids in the past, because they want to get 204 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: ready for it. They want to you want to shop, 205 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: they want a shop exactly exactly, but it'll be good. 206 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: So diving into our summer fun list, we can at 207 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: least start with these before we get to our first break. Sarah, 208 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: you make a summer fun list, right, I mean I make. 209 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: A summer goals list as I make seasonal goals list, 210 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: and I always make sure there are fun items on 211 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: my goals list, So I would say, yes, it is 212 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: definitely some summer fun, and you have inspired me to 213 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: kind of make sure I lean into some seasonal fun 214 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: wherever I can. But we've talked about how our summer 215 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: it's just I like the loser schedule. But the weather 216 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: is we talked in the last episode how I'm a 217 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: lightning fhobe, and you know what, all those lightning strikes 218 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: are happening in the summer, so the whole country is like, 219 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: let's get out and enjoy the sun. And it's like, 220 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: this is actually the least likely for us to want 221 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: to enjoy the sun in the next few months compared 222 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: to the rest of the year. So it just doesn't 223 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: have exactly the same Panash. But you I feel like, 224 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: feel very inspired to get outdoors when you're thinking about 225 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: your summer fun. Am I right? 226 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 227 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean I was with the day we're recording this. 228 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: It's May and sort of more earlier May, and it 229 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: was a gorgeous day yesterday. It was like a high 230 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: of eighty two and sunny, and I was just like 231 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: enjoying it so much being out because that sort of dry, 232 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: breezy eighty two degrees is pretty much perfect and they 233 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: won't be like that every day, but I tend to 234 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 2: get that hot. I mean, yeah, July August, it will 235 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: be in the upper eighties probably for a lot of days, 236 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: but it is nice. It's our reward for like having 237 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: had snow cover for basically the entire winter this year. 238 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see what this one brings, but you're 239 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: going to lead in at least into some summer reading. 240 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: That's like a cozy thing you can do when you're 241 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: indoors avoiding the lightning. 242 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: Right. 243 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: Yes, it actually just does feel very right to me. 244 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: And it's funny because some are reading. I guess other 245 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: people will be reading on the beach, but for me, 246 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is perfect. I have a very natural, 247 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: cozy indoor activity that is actually like very big in summer. 248 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: People are always talking about fun novels in the summer. 249 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 3: I in particular, for years have been using the modern 250 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: Missus Darcy Summer Reading Guide, and I actually I ordered 251 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 3: it in print this year just because I thought it 252 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: would be so I love to support her, and I 253 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: just was like, I will enjoy so much receiving this 254 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: in the mail and having it in my little copied 255 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: like like have a little thing on my desk. But 256 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: I put paper and I'm gonna put it right there 257 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: so I can circle what I want to get and 258 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: put on hold and order, et cetera. So super excited 259 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: to lean into that. And it does fit our weather 260 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 3: patterns here. But you are going to go to the 261 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: pool too, right, Well, yeah, I do plan going. Let's 262 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: take a quick break and then we can actually get 263 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: into the meat of our summer fun lists. 264 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, we're going to take a quick break. 265 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: All right, we are back, and sorry for the teaser there. 266 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: I think it sounds like we're ready to start getting 267 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: into our summer fund list and we'll try to alternate 268 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: so that we're not one of us is not talking 269 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: for this entire time, but Laura did just ask me 270 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: about whether I plan to go to the pool. And 271 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: that's a little bit of a joke because I tend 272 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: to like when we take our little retreats together to record, 273 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: I don't spend a lot of time in the water, 274 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: So she said, well, does that actually sound fun to you? However, 275 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: so we don't have a pool. We have a community pool, 276 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: and I'll talk about that later, but I think if 277 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: it as like a social thing, like meeting others there. Plus, 278 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: I'm just excited that my kids are finally at an 279 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: age I feel like they're better swimmers than I am, honestly, 280 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: and it's like I don't have to stare at them 281 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: the whole time. As long as I kind of have 282 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: an awareness of what is going on, I can more 283 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: like relax or bring a book. And of course I'll 284 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: be watching the weather. But we live very very close 285 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: to the pool, so it'll be easy to get home 286 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: if we needed to, and I really am looking forward 287 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: to either driving if it's iffy weather or biking to 288 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: our local pool and really leaning into that this summer. 289 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: I think it'll be fun for everyone. 290 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, when the kids can be more trusted in 291 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 2: the pool. It is definitely a entirely different experience than 292 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: if you are holding them and making sure the swimmys 293 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: are on correctly and all that good stuff. So the 294 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: first thing on my list is going to a Phillies game. 295 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 2: You know, I think professional sporting events are always fun, 296 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: and we have several reasonable teams around here, and so 297 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: may do one is a date night, potentially might do 298 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: it as a family activity. Actually, all my kids were 299 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: reasonably good about going to Philly's games last summer, and 300 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: now they're even older than they were last year. I mean, 301 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Alex in particular enjoyed watching it, which I was not 302 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: sure that was going to happen because he hasn't really 303 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: been into playing baseball. But he did enjoy watching it, 304 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: So I think that could be a family activity as well. 305 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: That sounds fantastic. I'm only sad I can't go with 306 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: you this time, but the dates of the home games 307 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: did not align with my short trip to Philadelphia. 308 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: All right. 309 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, next, speaking of which, my next item on the 310 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: fun list is that I'm going to continue my streak 311 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: I don't know how many years, but it's decent of 312 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: visiting Philadelphia for the fourth of July. I think I 313 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: learned from Gretchen Rubin something about like having your routine 314 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: for minor holidays can really like just make it easy 315 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: to make sure you have those connection points with family 316 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: throughout the years, and July fourth has always been a 317 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: very logical one for me to go to Philadelphia because 318 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: their weather is better than our weather. Often Josh has 319 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: to work, so a couple of those times I've gone 320 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: just with the kids, and actually that's going to be 321 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: the case this year as well. But it's just a 322 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: nice little short time that I can hang out with 323 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: Laura and see my parents, see my sister, and just 324 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: make sure I am getting that time in because I 325 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: do feel like short, frequent visits feel really meaningful to 326 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: me in terms of staying in touch with my family. 327 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 328 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: No, we'll enjoy seeing her, and she'll be here for 329 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: the two hundred and fiftieth, which is happening in Philadelphia 330 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: this summer. Shortly after that, I'm going to go see 331 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: Sarah McLaughlin in concert. She is playing at the Man's 332 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Center here, so I got tickets for that. I think 333 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: summer concerts are just it just it's one of those 334 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: things that feels like summer, and maybe like in the past, 335 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: I was more into like fruit picking, like it take 336 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: the kids, strawberry picking or peach picking that felt like summer. 337 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: But I think especially I'm going more into the concert era. 338 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: I think outdoor concerts in the summer like not here, 339 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,479 Speaker 3: but back when I lived in Philadelphia, in massive Massachusetts, 340 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: we're like amazing, especially if they're the type where you 341 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: can like lay on the lawn with your blanket or something. 342 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: Thing that is fantastic. I'm also sad I'm gonna miss 343 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: Sarah McLaughlin, but I'm going to align my next goal 344 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: with this one as well, which is that I am 345 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: manifesting that I will be seeing Ariana Grande this summer, 346 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: who is coming to an indoor concert venue near me, 347 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: which is smart lightning proof, like totally, it's the Hockey Stadium. 348 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: It is so lightning proof. So I am super excited 349 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: for that. I was just talking Annabelle. I think it's 350 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: going to go with me. She enjoys Ariana as well, 351 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: and I was talking about my ticket purchasing strategy, which 352 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: is that there are a couple of showings I could 353 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: go to, so I'm gonna do a little like attempt 354 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: to game the system and try for some last minute 355 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: tickets and then if it doesn't work, just pay a 356 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: lot of money for the second date. 357 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: All right, how are you going to game the system? 358 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm connu. 359 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna wait till the last minute because a 360 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: lot of times tickets I live right near the stadium, 361 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: and so like an hour before it would be no 362 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 3: big deal, Like it's twenty minutes for my house. So 363 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: I could buy them that late in the game and 364 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: that not miss the concert or even after the opening 365 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: act starts. 366 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: Fine, Wow, that would be pretty late to buy the tickets. 367 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: But I guess it could work. I guess it could work. 368 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: I mean, if it saves me hundreds of dollars, it 369 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 3: might be worth it. 370 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: It might be worth it. Okay, Okay. 371 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: One thing that I've enjoyed doing with the little boys 372 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: is going out and smelling the honeysuckle. We have this 373 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: whole patch of honeysuckle vines that are growing in our yards. 374 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: And yes, I know they're vines and they probably kill 375 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: the plants under it, but the smell of honeysuckle is 376 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: very much a smell of summer to me, and it's 377 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: also an excuse to tell the boys, Okay, it's time 378 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: to go outside and play by the honeysuckle, and then 379 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: they will and go have toad time as we call it. 380 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: Here are time outside after dinner. That's a good toad 381 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: time activity for late May early June. 382 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: I love it. The smell of honeysuckle is so distinctive, 383 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: and whenever I breathe it in, I think of you, 384 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: because I know you're super into it. 385 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: Anything else on your list, Sarah, Yeah. 386 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: I got two more. I said I would like to 387 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: lean into Sunday dinners with family and friends this summer. 388 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: I think I just would like to do more hosting. 389 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: Josh and I were talking about how we used to 390 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 3: host in med school and are very imperfect surroundings, and 391 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: then we went through kind of a PAF follow period 392 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: where the kids just made it kind of annoying and 393 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: we stopped, and we didn't stop. We slowed down, and 394 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: I just feel like it's time to bring it back. Plus, 395 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: we've had some sad loss in our family, and so 396 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: we want to spend more time with Josh is dead, 397 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: and Sunday dinners I think would be a really nice 398 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 3: way to make that happen, so full time on the 399 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 3: weekends and Sunday dinners is going to be kind of our. 400 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: Architecture, your architecture for your weekends. 401 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. 402 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: I am hoping that I will be able to take 403 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: at least a short writing retreat this summer. I am 404 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: working on the manuscript of Golden Hours and need to 405 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 2: finish that and hopefully we'll have it to a place 406 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: where I can. I like to take my writing retreats 407 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: when I'm in an editing stage, like I have a 408 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: draft and I'm really going in and making it better 409 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: and I can sort of. I want to be able 410 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: to see the whole manuscript at a time and so 411 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: devote longer periods of time to it without getting interrupted, 412 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: and sometimes getting away is necessary for that. So probably 413 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: won't be a long retreat, but at least a little 414 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: bit of time devoted to that is on my list. 415 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: That sounds lovely. Someday I'll do a writing retreat. Sounds good. 416 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: My last one is to celebrate my twentieth anniversary in style, 417 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: And to be fair, this is kind of like already booked. 418 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: We're going to Hawaii, and I'm so excited. We went 419 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: for our honeymoon in two thousand and six, and now 420 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 3: we're going with the kids. And as of this recording, 421 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 3: I have now done pretty much all of the planning 422 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: that I needed to do. It was kind of hanging 423 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: over my head and I I'll actually sat next to 424 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: me and we combined a lot of recommendations. We actually 425 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: use a little bit of AI and we booked like 426 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: nine million things in a row. And now I have 427 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 3: this beautiful graphic that she made that shows like day 428 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 3: by day of the trip what's happening. And I'm just 429 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: like so excited. So that will be a great thing 430 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: to check off the list, and actually will kind of 431 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: be our summer grand finale because the kids have one 432 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: week after that to kind of recover and then they 433 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: go to school. 434 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that buffer week I think will be nice. 435 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: I think you'll be especially for adjusting back time zone wise, 436 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: even though I know you're splitting it up and stopping 437 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: in the West Coast on the way back. Yeah, Well, 438 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: we have traditions in our case, like you like to 439 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: do with similar things that the Hawaii want is new 440 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: for you guys, But we're going back to the beach. 441 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean, we've rented the same house that we've been 442 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: renting for years, and we'll be there for some time 443 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: in August, and especially as the kids get older, I 444 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: think there will be some coming and going. The older 445 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: two children can drive, so they may drive themselves back 446 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: and forth depending on things going on. I know Michael 447 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: will come and go. I need to leave before the 448 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: end of it for something as well. But we'll go 449 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: to all the places we normally go to the ice 450 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: cream we have a couple of restaurants we like there. 451 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna run on the boardwalk, We'll go to the 452 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: pinball arcade. 453 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: Probably. 454 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 2: There's just a lot of fun things to do that 455 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: we've done so often that they kind of create their 456 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: own weight and tradition through having been done often. So 457 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: I do like to have a little bit of repeat 458 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: things in my life. 459 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: No, that sounds awesome. That's like how we experience Montana 460 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: or have done Amelia Island in the past. It's great, 461 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna keep building those memories. All right, Well, let's 462 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: take another and then maybe we'll talk about a couple 463 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: of things the kids are doing that are different and 464 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: then share some summer pain points and solutions. 465 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: Well, we are back talking all things summer. So we're 466 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: looking at some of the things kids are doing differently 467 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: this summer. One thing, Michael, my husband, it's not kids, 468 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 2: but it's sort of related because Henry's kind of doing 469 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: it with him. We built a deer fence around an 470 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: area that is a garden. So we've had these sort 471 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: of old beds in the yard, but they were just 472 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: completely exposed. And here in Pennsylvania, if you have anything 473 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: out growing. 474 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: That is like edible, if it's edible for you, it's 475 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: edible for a deer. 476 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: And so we've tried to grow stuff and just get 477 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: totally eaten. So we built a deer fence around it, 478 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: and now we will be growing very things out there. 479 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: They've already planted like strawberry plants, blueberry plants, lots of 480 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: pumpkins to come up in the fall. 481 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: So we shall see how this goes. 482 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, they're gonna be able to make desserts 483 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: with your own blueberries. 484 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: Maybe she'll see they haven't come up, like it hasn't 485 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: manifested yet, but it is in process. 486 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Things have been planted. 487 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: How about you, Sarah, Yeah, so I guess the only 488 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: I don't know. I really did worry about this summer 489 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: in terms of like, oh my gosh, my older two 490 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: kids are kind of aging out of typical summer camp 491 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: kind of seasons, but we've found some good stuff. My 492 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 3: Cameron's actually trying School of Rock for the first time. 493 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: We've wanted him to get into something musical for I mean, 494 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: he gravitates toward music but just hasn't done anything formal 495 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: with it. And I think he actually has a great 496 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: year and we'll have a great time. So that's going 497 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 3: to be fun doing that a few times a week 498 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: and learning guitar. And then Anna Ball's going into her 499 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: freshman year, has decided to take geometry over the summer, 500 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 3: so she'll pretty much be very busy with that as 501 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: well as gymnastics, and so my fear of her having 502 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: nothing now I feel like I'm worried she's going to 503 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: be too busy during those whopping six weeks that she 504 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: has at home before our two week trip that we're taking. 505 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah. 506 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: My oldest is in well as we are recording this. 507 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: He just got to London today. He was gone on 508 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: the plane overnight and is in the UK for about 509 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: six weeks for a course there that has run through 510 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: his University. They have a sort of early summer session 511 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: over there, so that's pretty exciting for him. And then 512 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: when he comes back, he will be working for cancer 513 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: nonprofit doing some work virtually for them, so that's exciting. 514 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: A job. 515 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: Jobs are so exciting, and a job that likely will 516 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: give him some great learning experience and should be really 517 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: interesting too. Yeah, and I guess I'll update that because 518 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: I think listeners might be curious as to whether we've 519 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: gone back to the overnight camp side of things, because 520 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 3: my kids have done a number of different variations of that. 521 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: We had the older two go to a traditional like 522 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 3: four week summer camp in upstate New York one year 523 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: they did not want to go back. Then they went 524 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: to a Monday through Friday overnight camp that was fairly 525 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: local for two years, and Genevieve joined them last year, 526 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: so I had all three of them there, which sounds great, 527 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: But then Annibal was coming back and forth for gymnastics 528 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: and it actually ended up being like, not very It's 529 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: probably more hectic than a normal week, honestly, with all 530 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: the driving, and this year, no one is really chosen 531 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: to go to overnight camp other than one week of 532 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: a basketball camp. That's about an hour and a half 533 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: away that Cameron is going to do mostly just because 534 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: then he'll get to play lots and lots of basketball. 535 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: So everyone's going to be doing their local stuff, mostly 536 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: in the same place because thankfully the place where jam 537 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: Annabel is taking geometry has camp, so oh nice, everyone's 538 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: every good dropped off. 539 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, one drop off is key. The only person is 540 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: going away for overnight camp currently. This may change, but 541 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 2: currently it's Alex and he's going to a two week 542 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: overnight camp that he's gone to. This will be his 543 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 2: third year there. What we are thinking about though, you 544 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: can go when you are seven, and whether next summer 545 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: Henry might go to And I would not consider that 546 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: for him except that Alex would be in the same 547 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: camp as him that year, and it's the only year 548 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: that they could do it together because Alex will then 549 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: age out and they have a teen program, but it 550 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: would be that separate from the little kids. So it's 551 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: a question of yeah, seven seems very young to me, 552 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: but his brother would be there when they might enjoy, 553 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: like Alex would want to share it with him and 554 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: Henry would like to be there with it. 555 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, Jennial he said the Monday through Friday 556 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: camp at seven, and she loved it. 557 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: She loved it, Okay, Yeah. 558 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's kind of typical for the 559 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: youngest child to be wanting to go earlier because they 560 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 3: want to do what their siblings are doing, and then 561 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: you have a comfort because you're the wings are there. 562 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 3: I don't know how long that campus. I don't know 563 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: that I would have centered for like a month or anything, 564 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: but for a couple of weeks. I think I bet 565 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: he would love it. 566 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: Maybe all right, Well, we'll update on that later as 567 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: we because we'll have to make the decision an early fall. 568 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: Although I can always put the deposit down and then 569 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: lose the deposit, I guess you know, it's not a 570 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: huge amount, so we may decide to do that. 571 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Any summer pain points that you are working on. 572 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, just mostly like, even though the kids are going 573 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: to be in the same place, the timing doesn't quite work. 574 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't start as early as school does, so I 575 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: really can't get to work and then Annabell finishes first. 576 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: But I mean, our solution is just our nanny. I'm 577 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: so thankful that's still an option. I probably will do 578 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: some driving on the days that I'm flexible, but on 579 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: my clinical days she'll probably just do it. And that's fine. 580 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my main well pain point. Yeah, no, I say, 581 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean there will be some driving pain points for sure. 582 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the reality with this maney because 583 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: although we will have at least for some of the 584 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: summer two drivers, but then of course we don't have 585 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: cars for everyone, so that maybe it's own special pain 586 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: point to have to figure that one out. Like what 587 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: do I do if everyone wants a car simultaneously. I 588 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: don't know what we do. We guess we sign up 589 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: who needs it more. Anyway, we'll cross that bridge when 590 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: we come to it. But also I've realized I do 591 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: like sort of morning runs, but I also don't like 592 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: getting up early to run. And if it's high eighties 593 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: and humid and it's hard, why you're not running later 594 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: in the day. I'd have to wait till like eight 595 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: pm to run, which I could. I've done that some 596 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: because Sam starts ramping up for cross country in the summer, 597 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: and so we'll go at like eight pm to run. 598 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to wake up early. 599 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: He does definitely does not want to wake up early. 600 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: So but with this, I would just say I have 601 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: figured out a treadmill workout that I don't hate. 602 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: That is an option. 603 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: Then I did it when it was snowy all winter 604 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: that we had snow cover or two months this winter, 605 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: which is that I basically I am only running two miles, 606 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: but I'm trying to run it really fast, like I'm 607 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: trying to well fast for me, meaning I'm trying to 608 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: do it in less than twenty minutes, right, But I 609 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: will also let myself stop after like five minutes. I'll 610 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: like run half a mile, get off, do like two 611 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: minutes of strength training, get back on, run fast for 612 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: five more minutes, get off, do another two three minutes 613 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: of strength training, get back on for five minutes, run fast. 614 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: So repeat this cycle four times. That way you get 615 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: in a half hour block two miles run fairly quickly 616 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: for me again, and then ten minutes of strength training 617 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: in this thirty minute block. And so it fits in 618 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: like the afternoon, like if I have an hour between 619 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: stuff I have to do, I can actually do this, 620 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: or I can do it at night like when the 621 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: kids are around. They sometimes I have to do it 622 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: with somebody playing video games near the treadmill but whatever. 623 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: So, but it's not boring in a way that like 624 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: just pounding out miles on the treadmill is horrible. 625 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: Totally, totally, no, that sounds great. I actually Josh was like, oh, 626 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: we should get rid of our treadmill, and I'm like no, 627 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: because even though I don't run anymore, like if there's 628 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: a lightning storm in the summer, but I really want 629 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: to walk, it's kind of nice to have that option. 630 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, having. 631 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: An option a wonderful backup. Which again the lightning is 632 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: the lightning themed past two epiles. 633 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: That's how I think about our summer unfortunately. I mean, 634 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: you can think I'm exaggerating, but it's most days and 635 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: it's annoying. 636 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I know, I get it. I get it, like those 637 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: tropical storms. Is it like there's a wet. 638 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Season, Yes, it works in one soon season on soon season. Yes. 639 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: All right, So here's our question. 640 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: So it's sort of pitched to Sarah here because this 641 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: person is thinking of putting in a pool plus hot 642 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: tub combo. A lot of them have it, since it 643 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: says it seems like a fun family activity, but realizing 644 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: that maintenance may also be a problem, you know, for 645 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: generally trying to spend less time on housework and house maintenance. 646 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: Maybe this is just inviting problems. And so, Sarah, you 647 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: moved from a house that had a pool to a 648 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: house that does not have a pool, and I wonder 649 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: if you could talk about that decision. 650 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've done both, and I mean, I don't think 651 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: either is wrong. I love having access to a pool, 652 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: so I do think that if we didn't have a 653 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: community pool that's like less than a mile away, we 654 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: would have more prioritized getting a property with a pool. 655 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: That said, in Florida, there's like many many people have pools, 656 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: and my guess is that the competition on the pool 657 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: service market is pretty fierce, so it's not usually that 658 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: difficult to find reasonably affordable poolcare that you don't have 659 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 3: to put much effort into other than like paying your 660 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: online bill. So I didn't find it like arduous to 661 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 3: take care of a pool. In the past, for us, 662 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: we just always had like a little bit of safety 663 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: worries about, oh, it's kind of nice to not have 664 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: to even think about your kid falling in the pool. 665 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: And then now that's again, everyone can swim really well, 666 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: so that's less of an issue, and I sort of 667 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: have come around to being like, oh, I kind of 668 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: wish we had a pool because then maybe my kids 669 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: would like hang out by the pool more. But that said, 670 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: like our Annabell's bff two houses down literally they have 671 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: a pool, so like, yeah, there's plenty of pool availability. 672 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: So I say, if you have easy pool availability, there 673 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: might not be that much extra reason to get a 674 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: pool unless you're really hoping that your house is going 675 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: to become a social hub, and if that's a big 676 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: goal for you, it is nice to have a pool 677 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: as the kids are getting older. 678 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I like the hot tub on 679 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: the shoulder. Seasons here, I will say that has been nice. 680 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: You go in in spring before it's warm enough for 681 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: me to be swimming, and then in the fall for 682 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: a while when it's too cold to be swimming. And 683 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: that's something you can just do quickly when it's in 684 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 2: your backyard in a way that obviously if you had 685 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 2: to go somewhere, I just don't think we'd do it 686 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: because you're not going anywhere at like eight thirty at night. 687 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just not happening most of the time. 688 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's going to require some maintenance or maybe 689 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: you want to think of it this way, like you 690 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: should at least budget for having somebody come, possibly more 691 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: than once a week, because like stuff's gonna wind up 692 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: in there, Like the chemistry can change quickly if it rains. So, Yeah, 693 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: if you're at a place like Florida that has a 694 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: lot of competition, that's great, and probably you can have 695 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: somebody come like twice a week relatively cheaply. That may 696 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: or may not be the case elsewhere if there's less competition, 697 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: but you might want to budget for that. 698 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: If you're gonna put one in. 699 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: Yes, definitely think about it. It's like it's not just 700 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: the buying of the pool. You have to think about 701 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 3: the long term costs. 702 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 2: Or you could decide that basically you're gonna get a 703 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: PhD In chemistry and do it yourself. 704 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: But you don't recommend that though. Do you do it yourself? 705 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: But you don't recommend that though? 706 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: Do you? I do not recommend that. It's a lot 707 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: of a lot of effort. They may have tried, but yeah, little, many, 708 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: many chemical things. All right, Love of the week, Sarah, 709 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: what do you have for us this week? 710 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 711 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: I have for you credit card points and miles with 712 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: a shout out to my guru on this one, who 713 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: is Kathleen Paley, who been on this podcast before. She 714 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: also hosts the Reframe podcast. I am a total I 715 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't want say novice. I'm like an 716 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: intermediate level. I'm not an advanced level points in Miles Ninja. 717 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: But like everything I do know, I pretty much learned 718 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: from Kathleen. And when we booked our flights to Hawaii, 719 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: I was able to book about half of them on points. 720 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 3: And I mean, like, I'm not a couponer, but if 721 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: I can save like literally thousands of dollars by just 722 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: being strategic about which credit cards I'm using, when I'm. 723 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: All for it. 724 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's been great. 725 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: Well, one thing you could do with money that you 726 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: are saving from using credit card points and stuff, well 727 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: with the pool maintenance, I guess you could do that listeners. 728 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: But last week had the realization of sometimes you do 729 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: want to pay to preserve your ability to concentrate and focus. 730 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: And we have done the home manager thing. It's not 731 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: that many hours a week, like, it's really not that 732 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: many hours that we have her come, but we do 733 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: make sure to have everybody who is showing up to 734 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: do work at the house or like contractors in general, 735 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: come when she is there, right, that schedule it precisely 736 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: for when she is working, and so those days we 737 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: tend to have like a lot of people there if 738 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of stuff going on. 739 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: And so Wednesday, like the week before this, I think 740 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: we had like four or five groups showing up at 741 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: various points on Wednesday, like to meet with her over 742 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: long term stuff. And sometimes so you're getting multiple bids 743 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: for things. And I was sitting in my office and 744 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: I actually wrote like thirty five hundred words on something 745 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: because it was like not my problem. 746 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, this is it. 747 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: This is like the Virginia Wolf for the room of 748 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: your own, like preserving your concentration. It's just not priceless, 749 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: but worth putting money into. 750 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: Money being a tool for building the life you want. 751 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: I love it. It sounds divine to know that all 752 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: the house stuff was just being taken care of and 753 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 3: you could not think about it. That's beautiful. 754 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: That was it. 755 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: It was a beautiful moment. 756 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: All right, Well, this has been best of both worlds. 757 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: We've been talking all things summer. We will be back 758 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: next week with more on making work and life fit together. 759 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 760 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 761 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 3: and you can. 762 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 4: Find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has 763 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 4: been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us 764 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 4: next time for more on making work and life work together.