1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: The OTB continues on Mike Keith and Amy Wells. Hello, Mike, 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: are you just fine? Thank you? I'm excited about our guests. 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Oh too, we were. He's better known from NFL films, yes, 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: but we refer to him now as mister Nashville a 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell who has a regular presence on our flagship 6 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: station one O four five Zone in Nashville, but loves 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: to come to Nashville, loves country music. So if people 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: are asking you, Greg co Sell, I'm thinking about coming 9 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: to Nashville to cover the NFL Draft, why are you 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: telling them they should come to Nashville. Well, first of all, 11 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Nashville is such a great talent. To me, and not 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: that I've been in every city in America, but I've 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: been to a few over the years in my thirty 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: nine years of NFL films. To me, there's nothing like 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Lower Broadway. I think that part of the city is 16 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: just unique, and you know, just hanging out there, I 17 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: mean you don't necessarily have to be a big drinker 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: or you know, but just walking I guess from like 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: fifth down towards the River is just it's it's a 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: unique experience and you've walked from fifth down to the river. Well, 21 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: I sure at night, during the day whenever, you know, 22 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: but you have you gone into a few bars too 23 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: by chance, I may have peaked in has been there, 24 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I will look right right right. But here's the point 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: all of this that you're talking about. And you've been 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: to the CMA music fans four years in a row, 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: and you've been and you've been to town, I mean 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: for several different things. You know, Nashville. Can you imagine 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: what you know Nashville as with the draft? Oh, I 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: think it's going to be unbelievable. And the one thing 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: we know, because it's Nashville, is they're going to put 32 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: on a show. So there's gonna be probably country music 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: every night, you know, in a number of places, probably 34 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the street. It's probably gonna 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: be like the CMAS to some degree. Whether they'll close 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: off you know, a couple of streets you know, down 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: towards the river, and it'll be phenomenal. All right. So, 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: as you talk about the Titans and you analyze the 39 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: Titans and you look at the Titans, what is your 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: perception of the Tennessee Titans as an organization, as a 41 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: football team as a team competing to be in the 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: postseason in twenty nineteen. As this offseason starts, Greg Kosel, well, 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know they have a new offensive coordinator, 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: and I think that the offense is something I would 45 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: look at closely. Marcus Mariota is going into his fifth 46 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: year correct, correct and in all honesty, and you guys 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: know me, I watched the tape. You know, it's never 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: a personal agenda, you know. I think there's a sense 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: that we're not not exactly sure what Marcus is at 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: this point. I mean, he's a quality NFL starting quarterback. 51 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: He's not a lower tier guy, but he was a 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: number two pick in a draft, so you're expecting him 53 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: to be I mean, he doesn't have to be a 54 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but you're expecting him to be a solid, weekend, 55 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: week out, consistent player that you know what you're going 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: to get when you game plan. And I'm I think 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: the tape shows that he's not quite that guy yet. 58 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: Now we can debate why they've had a lot of coordinators, 59 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: he's had some injuries. You know, there's always mitigating factors, 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you gotta be 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: on the field. You gotta be available, you gotta play, 62 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: and at quarterback, you've got to be consistent beyond the 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: quarterback situation that may or may not actually be a situation. 64 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Is there a piece that the Tennessee Titans are missing. 65 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I think they're missing some pieces on the perimeter. You know, 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: I think that Corey Davis can be a really good player. 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: You know, maybe he's not the explosive player that I 68 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: thought he had a chance to be, and I'll be 69 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: the first to admit that, or maybe he still can be. 70 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: He's played two years, so he's going into his third year. 71 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: I think they need more than that on the perimeter. 72 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: You know, the game in many ways, and I don't 73 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: know what Author Smith is going to do, but the 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: game in many ways has become more spread. More teams 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: eleven personnel meaning three wideouts. Is that the predominant majority 76 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: personnel package throughout the whole league. You've got to be 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: able to attack on the perimeter. The way the game 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: is set up now, there's a lot of what we 79 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: call three by one sets where you have a single 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: receiver to the boundary. That receiver is critical in today's 81 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: NFL because he gets man coverage and that receiver, whether 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: it's Corey Davis, whether they draft someone who they think 83 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: better fits that role, but that receiver is critical in 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: today's NFL. Is that free agency in your mind? Mindery? 85 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Is that the draft? You know? In all honesty, I 86 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: haven't studied all the free agent receivers. Maybe you know 87 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: the names better than I do. Right now, there aren't 88 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot, But I doubt there's a guy who you're 89 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: going to plug in and say he's my X and 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: we're ready to rock and roll. So it's more than 91 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: likely a draft situation. Um, I've done a bunch of receivers. 92 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a number of guys that fall into 93 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: that category potentially. Who's that guys? I tell you a 94 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: guy I really liked on tape and I think he 95 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: fits the X role in the NFL. And that's a 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: keen Butler from Myowa state, big kid. Think he moves well. Um, 97 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's six five, he's two twenties. 98 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, I see him as that kind of receiver. 99 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: I would like to ask you about tight ends. The 100 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: tense Titans have Delaney Walker, who will be coming back 101 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: from injury in twenty nineteen, John Smith, who will also 102 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: be coming back from injury in twenty nineteen, the Tennessee 103 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Titans could use potentially another tight end. Is that a 104 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: free agency pickup? Is that a draft pickup? Well, I 105 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: think tight ends have become more and more important in 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: the league as well, because now they're spread players. I mean, 107 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: obviously you want a tight end who can block. And 108 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: there's no question I think the Titans will run the ball. 109 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: I think based on what happened last year, they'll go 110 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: into this year with Derrick Henry is the number one guy, 111 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: and they will run the ball, no question. And they'll 112 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: line up with two tight ends. So they do need 113 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: an inline blocking tight end. But Delaney Walker, and again 114 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: we don't know because of his age and the injury 115 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: now if he's still Delaney Walker, but he was certainly 116 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: the kind of guy that you could detach from the 117 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: formation and you know he could line up split and 118 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: still win. Whether he can still do that, I guess 119 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: we don't really know that at this point. He'll be fine. 120 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: Is there a tight end in the draft that you like? 121 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: There's three of them who are probably being considered as 122 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: first round players. There's no a fan from Iowa who's 123 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: a totally detached player. There's Hockinson from Iowa, who I 124 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: love on tape, and then there's IRV Smith from Alabama, 125 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: who is another guy I really liked his tape. So, 126 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, where do they draft nineteen. I don't think 127 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: they're taking they're gonna ta to tight end in nineteen. 128 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: But in the second round, well, then it depends how 129 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: the draft plays out, right, you know those are the 130 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: guys I really like. I don't know if you get 131 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: to what pick, what is their pifty one fifty one? 132 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: I guess that depends how the draft plays out. Everybody's 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: talking about defensive linemen, and you know, so people if 134 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: they feel the need to then run up and get 135 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: D lineman because they're coming off the board. There's always 136 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: a position or some players that kind of get pushed back. 137 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Who people say, God, I'm surprised he got pushed back. 138 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: But that's you don't know that till the draft plays out. 139 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Do you buy some of the talk Greg co Seld 140 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: that this is a great draft for interior offensive linemen? 141 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: I would say that probably the two best overall position 142 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: groups in this draft or D line in on line 143 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: wow old line period, or interior I haven't gotten to 144 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys yet, so I can't say 145 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: you know who the guys are. But in just having 146 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: some conversations last night in the lobby, uh, you know, 147 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I was a lot of people are talking about old 148 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: line being a real strength of this draft, you know, 149 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting. You look at a team like 150 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Okay, everybody you know saying, well, should 151 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: your draft to guard high, so they draft Quentin Nelson. 152 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: So here's the Colts now with high draft choices on 153 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: their old line, and all of a sudden, their old 154 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: line becomes the foundation of the team. You know, so 155 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Smith too, I mean in the second round, right, So 156 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: you know you're dealing with a situation where people say, oh, 157 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: don't draft old lineman high, particularly interior o lineman. But 158 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: yet when when an old line becomes really good, then 159 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: people say, oh, great move because that's now our foundation. Yeah, 160 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: you know, so it'll be interesting because he has to 161 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: titan see their old line, particularly the interior. You know, 162 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: I think they were very inconsistent group last year. I 163 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: personally believe they need to get a little more athletic 164 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: in there. I mean, you don't need dancing bears, but 165 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: I think they need to be a little more athletic. 166 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball. You talked about 167 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: the D line a little bit. Is Quinnin Williams the 168 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: number one defensive tackle in this draft? Probably? I mean, 169 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: he's really good. He's really good. But I think you 170 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: have a lot of guys. I mean, the guy who's 171 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: fascinating is going to be at Oliver from Houston because 172 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: he's not gonna wait two hundred ninety five or three 173 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: hundred pounds. When you watch his tape sometimes you think 174 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: of a running back the way he moves, and I'm 175 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: anxious to see. He's going to be very scheme specific 176 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: because he's gonna have to be a gap player because 177 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: he may wait two seventy eight, you know, So he's 178 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to be a gap player, a penetrator. He's 179 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: not a pure pass rusher. He's gonna have to be 180 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: taught a little bit of that. But his movement traits 181 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: are ridiculous. I mean, he, like I said, there are 182 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: times you like a running back and it looks like 183 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: a running back. It's crazy, it's crazy. But where did 184 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean? He's like a Drell Casey moves like that? 185 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Now Casey's a bigger guy than than this guy is, Right, 186 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: Casey Casey came into the league in like three ten. 187 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Now he's like two eighty five. This guy is not 188 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: even that big cane in mind. One thing, there's very 189 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: few what we call two gap defenses in the NFL now. 190 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: Even teams that line up with a three in a 191 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: three four, they're essentially playing one gap defenses. Defenses are 192 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: not defined by how many people have their hand in 193 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: the ground. They're defined by the gap principles, and there's 194 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: very Wade Phillips is a perfect example. Wade for years 195 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: lined up with a three four, but it's essentially a 196 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: four to three. He's playing one gap principles. So there's 197 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: very few true three four two gaps. There were twenty 198 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: thirty years ago when the three four sort of really 199 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: became in vogue. Everybody's pretty much playing gap one gap defenses. 200 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: Well the three four, I mean, everybody ran a fifty 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: with the five two and then such like they backed 202 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: up the defensive ends and made him outside linebacker. Right, 203 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: nobody really does that any no, I mean, it's not 204 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: truly Yeah, I mean, you know there's more. Look, Aaron 205 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: Donald is a freak. But there's more one gap de 206 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: tackles than there are big like Richard Seymour's remember him. Oh, 207 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: there's very few of those guys. So you have to play, 208 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta dance with the girl who brung you. 209 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you gotta play with what you're 210 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: The college is put out. There's not hardly any Richard C. Well, 211 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: the Good Lord doesn't make a lot of Richard C. No. No, 212 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean he's a big man who could do all. 213 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean he was like six five three fifteen who 214 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: could move, move, and he was physical, and he could 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: control and displace offensive line in a two gaps system, 216 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: a borderline Hall of Fame player without question, I mean, 217 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: no doubt. Well what about Greg coach Sell? What about 218 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: mister Nashville? And wait, you are so palp wait for 219 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: the draft? You are so palmped. It's gonna hang out 220 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: with coach Mac my guy us two. Yeah, it's our 221 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: guy too, all right, Yeah, Greg co Sell, NFL Films 222 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: thirty nine years. Just finished my thirty ninth season. Wow, 223 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us on the OTP. Appreciate it. Guys. 224 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: Field Yates with ESPN joints us on the OTP, welcome, 225 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: good to be here. I was appreciated. This is um 226 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of an interesting thing from the standpoint that 227 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: what we talk about can change so fast based on 228 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: where Antonio Brown gets traded, what happens with case Keenum, 229 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: what goes on with all these different things in free agency, 230 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: which is actually just days away now. So when you 231 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: when you see things here at the combine, how sure 232 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: are you in what you're saying or what do you 233 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: focus on that you can be sure about? Very unsure 234 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: is how I would describe it, because this is a 235 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: part of the puzzle, right, So we are when I 236 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: do a puzzle, I always trying to find all the 237 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: edges first, right, and then you can fill in the 238 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: guts to the puzzle of color coordinating and all that. 239 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: But I don't want to say that this is the 240 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: beginning part of the process, because scouts have been working 241 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: on the twenty nineteen class since really, I mean twenty 242 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: seventeen in some cases, because you got players that were 243 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: draft eligible at that time that stayed in school, Guys 244 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: that were showing some promise, Guys you knew were going 245 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: to be a big part of this draft class eventually. 246 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: But it is a twelve to eighteen to twenty four 247 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: month process for every single draft, But for those of 248 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: us that are in the media and that are covering 249 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: the draft, that's sort of an individual events separate from 250 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: the season. In some ways, is the unofficial kickoff to 251 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: draft preparations. So I'm looking at this as very much 252 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: the outside structure of the draft process. We all know 253 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: the major names people are focused on, and some of 254 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: them will emerge as more or less major, and some 255 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: of them will maybe solidify their stock. For now, I've 256 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: got all the same questions that most do about some 257 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks here, and I have my focus on 258 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: the defensive lineman and the edge group specifically as well. 259 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: But there are also some players that we aren't aware 260 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: of right now that might run really fast, jump really 261 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: high or far, maybe interview really well, maybe throw really well. 262 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: Amongst the quarterbacks, we all of a sudden, we're going 263 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: to wake up on Monday morning next week and say, 264 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: maybe that guy belongs somewhere in our top one hundred 265 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: prospect list. As an evaluator at the combine, what is 266 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: the biggest piece of trying to decide what players best 267 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: fit your club. Yeah, I've always found that the two 268 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: things that we talk about the least that might actually 269 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: be the most important for the combine or the interviews, 270 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: and the medical process. The medical process is tough because 271 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have access. The NFL is unique 272 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: in this way. Actually, you know, the NBA has some 273 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: issues where not every NBA team gets access to information 274 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: of all the prospects. So you think about how that 275 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: would feel fundamental. So maybe we'd take it for granted 276 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: that in the NFL you were getting access to medical 277 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: information top to bottom, every bone and muscle and tended 278 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: accounted for for every single prospect here. And sometimes we 279 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: found that there are players who are dealing with things 280 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: that we had no idea. I mean, there are players 281 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: that have serious medical situations that can impact their draft stock. 282 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: You know that the Raider took a player in Mohurst 283 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: last year in the fifth round from Michigan who at 284 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: one point was regarded as one of the top fifteen 285 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: or so prospects. Medically, it just drove him down boards 286 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: and fortunately he had a really successful first season with Oakland, 287 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: and you know, it looks to be a promising player, 288 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: but you can learn a lot about the medical side 289 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: of it. And then football players. The tape is ultimately 290 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: what is most important in a lot of cases, but 291 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: the interviews are one of your first chances to actually 292 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: sit down and meet these players and find out a 293 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: bit of what their fiber in there and their fabric 294 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: is all about. What do you know about these guys 295 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: that you can glean from fifteen or so minutes in 296 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: a private setting, or what does your position coach pick 297 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: up in a conversation over in the convention. There are 298 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: a lot of bits of information that are attainable in 299 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Indianapolis that are not attainable in any other portion of 300 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: the pre draft process. Field. When we look at mocks, 301 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: we see all the defensive linemen. We see the quarterbacks 302 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: are going to probably go higher than they should because 303 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: everybody needs a quarterback. What I can't get a consensus 304 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: on right now are cornerbacks, which are always I mean, 305 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: they're like left hand pitching in baseball. You can never 306 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: have enough left hand pitching. You can never have enough corners. 307 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Who are the corners that you think can make a 308 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: move here in Indianapolis that can sort of take themselves 309 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: up into potentially that top fifteen or even the first round. Yeah, 310 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: could Greedy Williams run like blazing fast time and like 311 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the question always is how high can you climb? Right, 312 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: So a cornerback, probably the best cornerback should be finding 313 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: his name or hearing his name called somewhere in the 314 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: top ten picks in first classes. Right, that's just based 315 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: off the positional value that being said. You can't, you know, 316 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: jam a square pay into a round hole here merely 317 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: because he plays cornerback. But I think what we found 318 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: too is the NFL has some types right that some 319 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: teams don't necessarily evaluate. The idea to cornerback at its 320 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: essence is the same right being able to cover the 321 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: opposing wide receiver. But some teams have specific types that 322 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: they are more focused on. Some teams are so heavily 323 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: based in man or zone the alternative that they don't 324 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: have a choice but to rely on players that have 325 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: better instincts. Lonnie Johnson from Kentucky, guy that maybe has 326 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: shown himself a little bit more in what I would 327 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: call the pre combine pre draft process, that has maybe 328 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: separated himself a little bit from where he was just 329 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: based off the tape you had at Kentucky. But there 330 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: are other players that I think we're gonna latch. We 331 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: always latch with cornerbacks onto the time speed. So I'd 332 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: say that any whoever amounts to the number one or 333 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: the fastest cornerback at the end of this procession like 334 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: probably is going to be all of a sudden in 335 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: the conversation for sliding up the draft boards. So is 336 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: it when we talk about Greedy will yeah, is he 337 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: the odds on favorite to be the number one? And 338 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: if so, why do people like Greedy Way? I would 339 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: first of all, I would think, yes, that he is 340 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: the odds on favorite to be the number one cornerback 341 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: taken now, we are a long ways away. But when 342 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: you're the number one defensive back at Alabama or LSU, 343 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: and obviously Greedy played his college bay Alis, you like, 344 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: by default you've got your we have our our antenna 345 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: is up on you. Because there, I think probably the 346 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: two best or at least two of the best schools 347 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: in terms of producing defensive backs. The pedigree is apparent 348 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: and then the track record is obvious. But production and 349 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: not that everything is about production. You do not draft production. 350 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: Your a draft traits, but the traits can lead you 351 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: to production. So I think that Greedy Williams was shown 352 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: himself to be capable in man coverage, played in a 353 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: big time conference, played against excellent competition. Right, I mean, 354 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: You've got players all over the SEC that will either 355 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: hear their names called this year in the draft or 356 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: will be future stars. I mean, you know, I think 357 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: there might be an Alabama. There might be like a 358 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: fourteen year old he's already committed to Alabama bag in 359 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two or twenty twenty seven NFL draft 360 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: or whatever year. At my math is poor this morning here, 361 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: but played against a ton of high level competition. And 362 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: when you're a GM, or when you're a scouting director, 363 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: when you're a college guy director, whatever it is, you 364 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: are not just a valuating tape. But in the ideal world, 365 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: you are finding players that have played at the highest 366 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: level and you want to scout their best tape. And 367 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: the good news for Greedy is that you've got plenty 368 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: of competition that you can see him flex his best 369 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: football against. Mike Keith knows that I'm all in on 370 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: edge rushers this year. I'm very excited about them. Is 371 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa the far and away, for sure number one 372 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: edge rusher in this draft? I think this is a 373 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: good week for Nick Bosa because he is The combine 374 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: is full of players that are like genetic freaks. They're 375 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: all like, these guys are all cut from the top 376 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: one percent, right, this is the probably like one tenth 377 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: of one percent. But Nick Bosa is different, and you know, 378 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: we know a little bit about him, not just because 379 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: of what he did an oldhouse date. Father obviously a 380 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: first round pick in Miami Dolphins many years ago, brother 381 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: Joey third overall pick for I think they were still 382 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: in San Diego at that time, now Los Angeles Chargers. 383 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: But when he played in Ohio State this year and 384 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: I think it was cut short in a second game 385 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: against TCU, was the final time we saw Nick Bosa. 386 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it's even after just one game dominance and uh yeah, 387 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: put it this way by Titans. By time the Titans 388 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: are picking absenter trade, he'll be you know, he he'll 389 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: be long gone. He'll have already probably made it on 390 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: the plane to his new home, which could very well 391 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: be Uh well, I think it could be somewhere on 392 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: the West coast based off how the draft order is 393 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: currently played out. But it's a good class for edge rushers, 394 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 1: and I think Nick Bosa provided the checks out everything 395 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: healthwise this week, should separate himself as the clear cut 396 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: number one guy. You said it, it's a great year 397 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: for edge rushers. There's a lot of them in there. 398 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Who's someone that maybe Titans fans should keep their eyes 399 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: out for? Man, it's a good question. So, yeah, Amy, 400 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: I was bringing the best um well, I think so. 401 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: I just say this is that because things can sort 402 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: of slide so much with value in terms of um 403 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, guys can move up and down so much 404 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: over the next couple of months that like we focus 405 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: for the first round on some of the most obvious 406 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: names people know, and you know, certainly we talked about 407 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. Josh Allen from Kentucky is the name that 408 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: everybody is talking about because he had such a great 409 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: final season with the Wildcats, and you know, despite not 410 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: playing in the Senior Bowl, was a guy that really 411 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: made his mark and sort of put a stamp on 412 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: his case to be a you know, a top five 413 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: or so pick. Don't know if he's an edge rusher, 414 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't know where he'll play. But at Oliver is 415 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: a name that from Houston, guy who came in with 416 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald like buzz when he arrived a number 417 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: one recruiting the country, Houston dominated as a freshman. There's 418 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: some moments this year, you know, I had sort of 419 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: the notable incident with his coach on the sideline over 420 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: wearing a jacket when he wasn't playing in the game. 421 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: That sort of felt like it was one of those 422 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: that maybe could have not been made in such a 423 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: big deal that it was. But at Oliver's intriguing. I 424 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: don't know exactly where he fits in the NFL, but 425 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: we're finding and I think that Aaron Donald's kind of 426 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: helped break this mold. I think Jarell case has kind 427 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: of helped break this mold. Is that like, if you 428 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: can apply pressure, no matter where you do it from, 429 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: don't matter where you do it, do it from making 430 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle unhappy, whether it makes a guard unhappy. 431 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: If you can apply pressure, you've got a home in 432 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: this league, Mississippi State outside linebacker defense. But I ask 433 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: about Sweat first, sure Montes, sweat Montes. Yeah, I want 434 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: to ask about what he has shown and where do 435 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: you think he could be there and be worthy of 436 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: the nineteenth pick for the Tennessee Tite I think nineteen 437 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: sounds about I mean again, in the in the two 438 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: months in advance, sounds like a reasonable range for him. 439 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: Another player that I thought showed really well in big 440 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: time competition. And you know, think about the SEC. There 441 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: are some excellent offensive tackles that are gonna hear their 442 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: names called, uh, you know, at some point early on. 443 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: Whether it's Jonah Williams for Alabama, you know, there are 444 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: some guys that have some serious accolades here. Bull miss 445 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: has always got some offensive prospects on the offensive line. 446 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: They're going to be hearing their names called to um. Yeah, 447 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: I think it's possible that he could be a name. 448 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: And I guess I was jumping the ship. Let's go 449 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: say I'm a jump jumping the gun a little bit. 450 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: There might be two defensive line in slash front seven 451 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: players from Mississippi State. They hear their names called early 452 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: in the in the draft process. All right, well, so 453 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: give us Jeffrey Simmons the more of an interior defensive 454 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: lineman sixty three, three hundred and fifteen pounds. Yeah, I 455 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: mean a monster, I mean just an absolute monster in 456 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: terms of what he did, especially against big time competition. 457 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: It was awesome against big time competition, checks a lot 458 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: of the physical boxes. The issue here is that you know, 459 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: obviously he's got an injury he's dealing with right now, 460 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: and some question marks off the field, with some red 461 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: flags there, and it's going to be a case of 462 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: risk versus reward. How high I guess, I guess it 463 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: depend on how you viewed the draft. How how far 464 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: does he fall view the questionnaires, he's still a first 465 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: round guy based off of ability, then you know, like 466 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ability there, and I think that's 467 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: unfair to make obvious player compared to make comparisons. But 468 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, as an example, we have seen you know, 469 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: Robert kim DJ who's now with the Arizona Cardinals. I 470 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: believe it was twenty third they took him a few 471 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: years back. It was a guy that also played at 472 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: the SEC, also did most of his damage from the interior, 473 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: was at one time a top overall recruiting the country. 474 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: But he slid down the draft board as well. So 475 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: we're seeing that. You know, sometimes the physical ability is 476 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: not the only determined of where a guy goes. What 477 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: is the most intriguing position group to you in this draft? 478 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I think wide receivers one that I'm keeping an eye 479 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: only because we have seen so little production from for 480 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: round wide receivers in a lot of cases over the 481 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: past four years. I mean, we're seeing guys essentially red 482 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: shirt at that position in some cases, right, I mean, 483 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: guys found their footing later on this year for a 484 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: couple of teams that you say first round pick Calvin 485 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: Ridley was sort of the exception. He was terrific for 486 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons this year, especially from a touchdown production standpoint. 487 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: But if you look at players that in court, Coleman 488 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: bounced around at like four separate teams after being the 489 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: fourteenth pick. I believe it was the first first wide 490 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: receiver taking that year by the Browns out of Baylor. 491 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen guys that have hit their stride 492 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: and year two or year three, you know they're they're 493 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: like a couple of games this past year where Corey 494 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: Davis will the best player on the field. I think 495 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: Philadelphia that overtime win currently best player in the field. 496 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: The same thing against New England. But it's it's interesting 497 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: to see how the transition is tougher because of the 498 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: way the college offense are being played. So the wide 499 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: receivers are always going to be a group that I'll 500 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. Well, and you look at the list, 501 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: I mean Marcus Brown from Oklahoma, d DK, Medcalf from 502 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Old Miss ye kelvin Harmon, NC State, A J. Brown, 503 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: Old Miss yep uh Inn Cal Harry from Arizona State. Right, 504 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean there's nobody that obvious. There's not a Julio 505 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Jones in that list. Do you think it's a year 506 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: that we may not have a first round wide receiver 507 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: based on what you're saying, yea, And based on this group, 508 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: I think a couple of guys will still make it 509 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: in the first round. But you're right, there was not 510 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: an Julio Jones or an aj Green and instant of 511 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: course they was. I think they were the same year 512 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: or maybe their year apart. But still the point is 513 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: that you know, you don't see those guys often, and 514 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: of course those two guys emerged within twelve months of 515 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: each other. But yeah, it might be that there is 516 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: not a wide receiver that is the surefire top six, seven, 517 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: eight nine prospect guy. As a matter of fact, it's 518 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: not a great year in free agency either, so really 519 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: an interesting market. You free agency, there aren't a ton 520 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: of players that are obvious sort of number one wideouts. 521 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you might see more complimentary 522 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: pieces in free agency, which might be part of the 523 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: reason why there's been a lot of buzz about Antonio Brown, 524 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: who's obviously expressed his desire to be out of Pittsburgh. 525 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: What's the value for Antonio Brown? What are you offering? 526 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: I still thinking, again, this is not my job to 527 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: make the trade, but if I had the ability to 528 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: make that trade, I still think if I were a 529 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: team in the back half of the first round, I'd 530 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: offer a first round pick for him. This is for 531 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: a franchise that has a long list of tremendous players. 532 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is one of the greatest Steelers ever. His 533 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: production since being drafted in two thousand and ten is unmatched. 534 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: I just think the guy is such a unique talent, 535 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: and I get it there's some considerations you have to make, 536 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: but a back end of the first round pick makes 537 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: sense to me. Like Indianapolis, No, say, I know, I 538 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: know that's that's not what but I mean, listen to 539 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: so they've got twenty six, yeah, thirty four, fifty nine, 540 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: eighty nine, one, twenty nine, one thirty five, one sixty 541 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: So they got tons of draft picks. Yeah, they have 542 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: over one hundred million dollars in cap room. Yeah, I 543 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: don't need another receiver. I don't know that I see it, 544 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: but I do think that's the right type of range. 545 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: Just pick twenty six ish, No, thank you, but I 546 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: mean absolutely not. I mean, if you're you're talking about 547 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 1: teams that have the capitol, sure they check a lot 548 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: of the boxes of things that you're looking for. I 549 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: don't know that it's it's the right if it'll be 550 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: specifically the right fit, but I could totally understand the reasoning. 551 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, all right beyond that, because now I'm all 552 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: worked up Beyond Antonio Brown, who are some of the 553 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: most intriguing free agents to you? What are some of 554 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: the big storylines you're interested to see. We'll see where 555 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: it all ends up. With franchise tags. I think obviously 556 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: guys like to Marcus, Lawrence, Jadevi, and Clowney could be 557 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: bound for the franchise tag. We know it. No, Lavon 558 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: be will not get the franchise tag. But so I'd 559 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: say that of the players that actually feel like they 560 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: could be attainable, I think girl. Thomas is one of 561 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: the more interesting names Seattle Seahawks. Obviously, it doesn't sound 562 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: like he wants to be there going forward? Is fine? 563 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: That like there's a lot of great value in the 564 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: sort of second layer of free agency. How does the 565 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: running back class take shape? I think that, you know, 566 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: Dean Lewis probably will be the best running back to 567 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: change teams over last year. And I guess Labe On 568 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: Bell is a pretty compelling case too, But we'll see 569 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: what happens with Bell. I feel like Bell has almost 570 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: been like an odyssey more than a free agency switching 571 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: of teams. But the running back markets always interesting. And 572 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: then I mentioned the wide receiver markets not particularly robust. 573 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: So where does it set up for a guy like 574 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: Adam Humphries, who might be the best wide receiver available, 575 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: or Golden Tate. You know there's a guy like Devin 576 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: Funches just need a change of scenery. Where are some 577 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: of these guys end up that maybe didn't have the 578 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: best walk years they wanted field Yates three straight winning 579 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: seasons for the Tennessee Titans and one of six NFL 580 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: teams to do it. What do you think the national 581 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: perception is of the Tennessee Titans as we begin the 582 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: fiscal year in twenty nineteen. For the NFL, trajectory is 583 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: the right one, right, I mean, I think that in 584 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: the NFL, I kind of view you as you're on 585 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: the arrow up, you're on the arrow down, or you 586 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 1: don't really have direction, and I think actually, in some 587 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: ways being rudderless is kind of the worst spot to 588 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: be at. Titans are going up though, I mean, like 589 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: no bad contracts on the book, healthy cap situation, talented 590 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: pieces on the roster. I think, a very good offensive line, 591 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: which is an area that's really difficult to find right 592 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: now in the NFL. And I think that if Marcus 593 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: can make strides in his fifth year, that right there, 594 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: I think is sort of the pivot for this team. 595 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Right and he's got continuity for the first time. It feels, 596 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, new coordinator, but larger the same system. That 597 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: should really make a difference for him. What's the most 598 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: important part of this offseason for the Tennessee Titans. It's 599 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: a good one there, I'll go. I'll go with figuring 600 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: out let's say, figuring out Marcus Mariota, but just sort 601 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: of ironing out the details from Marcus Mariot, did you 602 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: doubt you who invest in him? Again? Do you do 603 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: do a contract? Now? Obviously, you know quarterbacks in the 604 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: final year of their deal is often a time to 605 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: negotiate and then how do you get into the next level. 606 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: And certainly that starts with him staying on the field 607 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: and and finding the right fits for him schematically. But 608 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: to me, that's that's a really important piece for them. 609 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: Does it make a lot of sense for both sides 610 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: for him to play the year under the twenty point 611 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: nine million dollar contract. I think that for some reason 612 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: it's become almost like like that's almost like a ghost year, right, 613 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: it never actually happens. But I don't think it's such 614 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: a It's not a terrible thing. If here's the reality 615 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: for the Titans, if they want to get a deal 616 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: done with Marcus Mariota long term, it's going to cost 617 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money no matter what. So whether it's 618 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: right now, whether it's June first, whether it's February of 619 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, it's gonna cost him a lot of money 620 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: one way or the other. And they've budgeted accordingly. You know, 621 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: they have the money and the cap space to spend 622 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: from Marcus, you may say to yourself, like, if I 623 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: play really well this year and I'm set myself up 624 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: in a way that I'm not currently set up to do, 625 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: which is not the worst thing in the world for 626 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback either. Well, and his mom doesn't need a house. 627 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: He's got you got that already, and he's getting a 628 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: thirteen million dollar raised. Anyway, My point is he he's 629 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: not desperate for the money. He knows of paydays coming 630 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: yet regard Let's so, it just seems like for both 631 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: sides they don't have to be in a hurry. Yep, 632 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: there's sometimes patience is uh is just the root of 633 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: not all evil, but a lot of good. We borrowed 634 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: enough of his time. Do you have something else for 635 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Field the age? I don't think so. Field, Okay, Well, 636 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: thank you guys for having me on. Well, thank you 637 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: for being with us on the OTP. No problem.