1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: We do this thing every day from one until four 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: and then after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app. We are going to have a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: press conference about the La County Sheriff's deputy who is 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: shot in the back while on his cycle. He was 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: not seriously hurt, but they do have the shooter and 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: there's going to be a press conference on who the 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: shooter is and that could come up any minute. In 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: the meantime, while we have a chance, let's talk with 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Peter Pralambus and he is the ABC News investigative reporter 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: and he will tell us what happened at the Trump 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: trial today New York City. 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: Peter, Yeah, today was a day for these stirs. I 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: mean they were taken behind the closed door meeting what 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: was once a secret meeting in twenty fifteen between Donald Trump, 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 3: his lawyer Michael Cohen, and then publisher of the National 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: Inquirer David Pecker, where they each agreed that they would 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: work together to push out positive stories about Trump negative 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: stories about his opponents, and what eventually ended up leading 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: to Trump's criminal indictment a catch and kill scheme to 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: buy in silence negative stories about the former president. This 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: was all during the direct examination of David Pecker, who's 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: still on the witness stand. He's going to resume on Thursday. 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: But he's really serving as the narrator in a way 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: for this case, laying out the entire all the main 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: early allegations to the jury as one of the main 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: participants in this alleged conspiracy. 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: Right, and this is the setup. I mean, everything that 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Pecker testified today not a crime in and of itself. 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with Pecker acting as a cheerleader for 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: a candidate or you know, Trump, looking for favorable coverage. 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: But what it leads to is the payment that's in 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: contention at the end of this story. 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: Yes, so that's one hundred percent, right. So the three payments, 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: one to a Trump terror doorman, one to a playboy model, 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: and the last one Stormy Daniels, on their face value, 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: they're not crimes. It becomes a crime after the election 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: when Trump attempts to repay his lawyer Michael Cohen for 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: a one hundred and thirty dollars hush money on one 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand dollars payment to his lawyer. To 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: his lawyer, Michael Cohen, a prosecutor, is alleged became a 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: crime at that point when Trump falsified records by not 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: labeling them properly and saying that they were legal expenses. 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: But at this point, prosecutors are framing this as an 47 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: overarching conspiracy, that this was a crime done in order 48 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: to facilitate an effort to influence the twenty sixteen election. 49 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: We'll see how the gervors response that over the coming weeks, 50 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: but today's really kind of laying this essentially laying the 51 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: groundwork for the rest of the case. 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just this is such a weird 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: case because what Pecker laid out today, every single action 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: is not a crime, but because it ended up with 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: this falsified payment listed in the business records, it's like 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: all considered part of the crime. 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: So prosecutors are suggesting, based on their past court filings 58 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: that you know, Trump's qualification of business records was done 59 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 3: in furtherance of another crime. Somehow, they're going to have 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 3: to tie that falsification back to an election law being 61 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: broken in twenty sixteen, But we haven't seen that laid 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: out yet. But I think it's important to note that 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: the witnesses in this case have a ton of baggage. 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: Prosecutors admit that a porn star, a disbarred lawyer, a 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: tabloid publisher, and they've chosen David Pecker, who you know, 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: theoretically has less baggage than Daniels or Cohen, to be 67 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: their narrator, to be the one who introduces the jury 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: to this evidence. I think that's a meaningful choice. I 69 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: think it's an important framing. I mean, the National Inquirer, 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: despite its reputation, is a somewhat of a household name. 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: It's the kind of tabloid you see and you're waiting 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: in line at the grocery store. Some of the stories 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: that this agreement facilitated. You might remember, for example, there 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: was a wild store in twenty sixteen that Ted Cruz, 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: his father, was connected to the jfk assassination that came 76 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 3: out of this entire secret agreement to publish negative stories 77 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: about Trump's opponents. 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: Oh I saw, I just saw on TV they laid 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: out all these Hillary Clinton covers from that period, and 80 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: they had Hillary dying of brain cancer in six months. 81 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: Jeez, and Trump was watching intently as David Pecker was 82 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: testifying about this. Pecker explained how, at the end of 83 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: the day, Hillary Clinton and Bilkinson stories was their kind 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: of bread and butter. It sold tabloids back in the day, 85 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: and then regardless of what happened with Trump, he was 86 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: going to run those stories, even if it also had 87 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: the additional benefit of hurting one of Trump's political opponents. 88 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Clinton and Trump always was big box 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: office for any media outlet over the years. Well, what 90 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: about the hearing on whether Trump violated a gag order? 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: Because he can't control himself. Every time he leaves the courtroom, 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: he holds a many press conference with reporters and starts 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: trashing everybody in sight. 94 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: So what was the hearing about today? 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: You see this? 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: All right, we're going to break it out. 97 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 5: Hold on, John, and we're going to go to that 98 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 5: news conference story. 99 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 6: I'm here to discuss the details surrounding the attent murder 100 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 6: of our deputy Samuel Aspruto, who was shot in the 101 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 6: line of duty yesterday in the city of West Colvina 102 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 6: while he was on a police motorcycle in his full 103 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 6: police uniform. Detectives from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department 104 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: Homicide Bureau quickly responded to the scene last night and 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 6: started their investigation. 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 7: Homicide detectives worked throughout. 107 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 6: The night to process the scene, collect evidence, and canvas 108 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 6: the area for surveillance video, and potential witnesses. During the 109 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 6: course of their investigation, homicide detectives learned that officers from 110 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 6: the California Highway Patrol Border Division arrested Raymundo Duran, a 111 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 6: forty seven year old Hispanic mail, on suspicion of drunk 112 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 6: driving and weapons possession charge. 113 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 7: He was booked into. 114 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 6: The San Diego County Sheriff's Jail. Raymundo Duran was detained 115 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 6: by the officers of the CHP Santa No. Nofre Inspection 116 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 6: Facility in San Diego County. During their investigation, the California 117 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 6: Highway Patrol officers retrieved a firearm from Raymundo Duran's vehicle. 118 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 6: He was discovered parked at a location in a two 119 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 6: thousand and eight silver Toyota Camry four door. Homicide detectives 120 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 6: responded to San Diego County Sheriffs Jail and interviewed Raymundo 121 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 6: based on statements obtained from Raymundo Duran, surveillance footage retrieved 122 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 6: from the shooting scene in the city of West Covina, 123 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 6: witness statements obtained by homicide detectives. SIRS detectives strongly believe 124 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 6: that Raymundo Duran is the suspect involved in the shooting 125 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 6: of our deputy in the city of West Covina. There 126 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 6: is no evidence at this time that suggests that there 127 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 6: are additional suspects outstanding or that may have been engaged 128 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 6: in the shooting of our deputy. As you see, I'm 129 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 6: surrounded by a lot of folks. So I do want 130 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 6: to start off by thanking bear with me because this 131 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 6: was a very urgent matter to us. When this occurred. 132 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 6: You saw our pleas for the community's assistants to come 133 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 6: forward and a lot of that did happen. So I 134 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 6: do want to thank the tenacious work of our homicide 135 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 6: detectives who are still working on this case from the 136 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 6: minute it occurred, our body worn unit camera who usually 137 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 6: responds out to scenes to canvas for videos. You know, 138 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 6: a lot of things are on video these in this 139 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 6: day and age. Our Fraud in Cyber Crimes Bureau and 140 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 6: our deputies from the San Dimas Station, our Century Station, 141 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 6: Industry Station, and South Los Angeles Sheriffs Station. I also 142 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 6: want to take a moment to thank the West Covina 143 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 6: Police Department, and their chief is here with us and 144 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 6: I spoke to him last night. He couldn't have been 145 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 6: more helpful and all the help that they offered us 146 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 6: last night. 147 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 7: And then I'm flanked by a lot of CHP officers and. 148 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 6: I'm not nervous. They're all behind me. Usually we get 149 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 6: nervous when they're behind us right. 150 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 7: Especially on a freeway. But they did an amazing job. 151 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 6: They took a very dangerous person off the road and 152 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 6: we believe at this time that it is our suspect. 153 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 6: I also spoke to Kelly Martinez, who's the sheriff of 154 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 6: San Diego County last night, and they were very helpful 155 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 6: in their assistance once this individual was in custody. I 156 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 6: do want to mention about the CHP that Sean Drie, 157 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 6: the Commissioner of the California High Patrol, contacted me this morning. 158 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 6: He's like, Hey, what can we do, how can we help? 159 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 6: So he's been awesome as well as the entire CHP. 160 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 6: I also want to take a quick second to thank 161 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 6: the wititnesses that came forward immediately when our deputy was 162 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 6: shot in the back. 163 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 7: I can't say enough about them. 164 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 6: They saw what they saw, got out of their cars, 165 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: went immediately to aid our deputy, communicate with them, and 166 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 6: eventually their information became very important to the investigation that 167 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 6: our homicide detectives were conducting. So thank you in our eyes, 168 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 6: your heroes. Not only did you help this deputy, but 169 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 6: I have a feeling, based on the characters that has 170 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 6: been described, you do. 171 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 7: This for anybody who needed help out on the street. 172 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I'm very happy that 173 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 6: this person is in custody, but I'm even more thankful 174 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 6: that Deputy Aspoutal is doing well and he's recovering it home. 175 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 6: I made several statements last night and talked about the 176 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 6: fact that he was wearing his vest, his bulletproof vest, 177 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 6: and we believe. 178 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 7: It saved his life. 179 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 6: The situation could have ended so tragically, and even though 180 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: this was not a good incident, I think the outcome 181 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 6: is a lot better than we would have liked with 182 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 6: his safety, and it does remind us for our community 183 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,479 Speaker 6: out there how dangerous the job is in law enforcement. 184 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 7: I think we take it for granted. 185 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 6: These men and women put on a uniform, a badge 186 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 6: twenty four to seven, seven days a week, and they 187 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 6: go out there there's gunfire, they run to it, they 188 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 6: don't run away from it. And under these circumstances, I'm 189 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 6: so proud to be part of this profession. 190 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 7: So what I will do is I'll go on to 191 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 7: the next phase. 192 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 6: I'll take any questions that you may have, but please 193 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 6: keep in mind that, yes, there are a lot of 194 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 6: details in how our detectives worked with the other agencies 195 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 6: to make this arrest, but a lot of the detailed 196 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 6: information will be given in court. 197 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: Uh and and we. 198 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 6: Plan on doing everything we can to make sure that 199 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 6: this individual gets prosecuted to the full extent of the law. 200 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 7: And with that, I will open it up to any questions. 201 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: Based on those witnesses you just think, can you share 202 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: a little bit more about the circumstances that have led 203 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 4: up to the shooting? How did this suspect of logically approach? 204 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: What were the circumstances surrounding that shooting? 205 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 6: All excellent questions, and those are all details that were 206 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: still all. 207 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: Right, then let's drop out start answer any questions. We 208 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: getting one shot there, sure, Robert Luna. So that's the 209 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: good news is they caught the guy. They caught the 210 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: guy who fired at the sheriff's deputy while stopped at 211 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: a red light. He was on his motorcycle and the 212 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: bullet hit the deputy in the back, but there was 213 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: a bulletproof vest he was wearing, so the injuries were 214 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: not serious. 215 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 216 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 8: six forty. 217 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: Now. 218 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: We just brought you the press conference that Sheriff Robert 219 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: Luna had La County Sheriff. This story happened in West Covina. 220 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: Had a stop light and Sheriff's Deputy Samuel Asporo was 221 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: shot once in the back yesterday afternoon at two forty five. 222 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: It was at Baranca Street and East Garvey Avenue. He 223 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: radioed for help and there were a number of witnesses 224 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: and they got the guy. But there's no details available. Obviously, 225 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: they're just putting the investigation together and getting the witnesses together. 226 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: So we dropped out of that Iceporo had been with 227 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: the department for nineteen and a half years and there's 228 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: nothing more terrifying when you're a cop sheriff's deputy, knowing 229 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: you are a target for any random lunatic with a gun, 230 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: that you can be taken out just standing in line 231 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: getting a coffee, or walking the street, or sitting on 232 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: your cycle at a stoplight. I mean you, I can't 233 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: imagine what that's like, knowing that you as always guys 234 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: who want to take a shot at you. 235 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Let me see what's this here? All right? 236 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: The suspect identified as Ramondo Duran and yeah, he was 237 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: arrested in San Diego County. 238 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: All right. 239 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: So now when we were interrupted, we were talking about 240 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: the Trump trial with an ABC News correspondent, Peter Harral 241 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Lambus and Peter obviously had to go, But one thing 242 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: I wanted to finish up on was the second part 243 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: of the story today. Part one was David Pecker, the 244 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: publisher of the National Inquirer, testifying about his role in 245 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: setting up the chain of events that led to Trump 246 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: falsifying records as to what the payments were for. And 247 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: Pecker was all in on helping Trump. They were friends, 248 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: and he had no problem doing rob Ros stories, cheerleading 249 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: for Trump and also running stories that were embarrassing or 250 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: negative towards anywhere anyone from Ted Cruz to Hillary Clinton. 251 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Remember this was the twenty sixteen race. And Trump's under 252 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: a gag order and it's making him crazy. He was 253 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: complaining again today, I'm not allowed to defend myself, and 254 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: yet other people are allowed to say whatever they want 255 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: about me. It's very, very unfair, and called the judge, 256 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: Juan merch On a highly conflicted judge. Trials in recess 257 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: as of eleven o'clock our time because of passover, and 258 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: they're going to come back on Thursday. But the judge 259 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: has been irritated with Trump and irritated with the Trump's 260 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: law team because he keeps telling Trump basically to shut 261 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: up when you go outside. And then the lawyers try 262 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: to tie themselves into knots, explaining that Trump's actually not 263 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: violating the order. 264 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Well he is. 265 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: He's going on a rampage all the time. And if 266 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: anybody else in the world was told shut up, you 267 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: can't talk about the case publicly, the rest of us 268 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: would because we don't want to get sanctioned, to pay 269 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: a fine or end up in jail for a couple 270 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: of nights. Trump Trump had to sit there and listen 271 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: as Pecker was asked about a guy named Dino Sjudin 272 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: a dormant at Trump Tower. Now, so Jun was trying 273 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: to tell a story about Trump following an illegitimate child 274 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: with a maid. He was, I guess, calling up various 275 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 2: media outlets and got in touch with Dylan Howard from 276 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: the National Inquiry. He was the editor in Cheap and 277 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: Pecker testified. When he heard about the tip, he immediately 278 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: called Michael Cohen, Trump's attorney and told him exactly what 279 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: I was told. That there was a story going around 280 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: that Trump had knocked up the maid and allah Arnold Schwarzenegger. 281 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not unreasonable to believe this sort of thing, 282 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: and it turned out to be a false story. 283 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: But they. 284 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: Paid so you didn't anyway, thirty thousand dollars to take 285 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: it off the market. This is the catch and kill aspect. 286 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: This is what they did with Stormy Daniels. This is 287 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: what they did with another woman as well, Karen McDougall, 288 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: Playboy model. The McDougall's story was true. Story Daniel's story 289 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: was true. The Sijudan story was apparently not true, but 290 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: who the hell knows. In any event, you pay so 291 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: though so no other outlet will buy the story and 292 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: Eric and so that is the help that Pecker was 293 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: giving Trump is to not only pay for true stories 294 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: and kill them, but pay for even untrue stories that 295 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: sounded plausible and kill them before another outlet picked them up. 296 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: Now, none of this is illegal. I have to stress this. 297 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: Even people who have a unreasonable hatred of Trump, there 298 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: is nothing wrong with paying people off to shut up. 299 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: There's nothing illegal about paying a publication. Obviously it's the 300 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: National Inquirer. I don't think is there anybody out there 301 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: who didn't know that the Inquirer paid for stories? Is 302 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: there anybody out there who thought all the stories the 303 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: Inquirer published were true, or that they thought they were true? No, 304 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: of course, gott all right. It's it's it's this bizarre entertainment. 305 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: That you know. 306 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 2: I guess there's a small number of like stupid people. 307 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: I mean, the magazine really is pitched at stupid people. 308 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: So maybe there's some stupid people who actually buy into 309 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: this stuff. Most people don't. It's just weird entertainment. But 310 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: has to be stressed here is having a guy who 311 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: owns a publication to do raw, raw cheerleading stories is 312 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: not illegal. I think we know there are many news 313 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: agencies now that are full time cheerleaders for either the 314 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: Republicans or the Democrats. That's the way the media has 315 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: separated out. Even a lot of legitimate or formerly perceived 316 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: to be legitimate news agencies now just do cheerleading and 317 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: people split into squads. Well, that was true in twenty sixteen, 318 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: and there are pro Trump outlets and anti Trump outlets, 319 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: and that's the way of the world now. 320 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: So none of that's illegal. The only illegal part is. 321 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: The only illegal part is technically he wrote in his 322 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: businusiness records that this check to his attorney Michael Cohen 323 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: was for legal fees, when actually it was a reimbursement 324 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: for shutting down the Stormy Daniels story and others. That's 325 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: a real knit to pick there, isn't it. I Mean, 326 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: you can make a good case that it was legal 327 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: fees when you're paying an attorney who just done the 328 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: work and made the payment himself to shut the stories 329 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: down with the National Inquirer. But even if you want 330 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: to look at as some kind of fraud, it's on 331 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: the list of crimes in the world. Boy, that's exceedingly minor. 332 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: He wrote legal fees instead of hush money payment. I mean, 333 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: and they say that they're using what would ordinarily be 334 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: a misdemeanor, they're charging it as felony because it was 335 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: in commission of a larger crime, which is. 336 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: Influencing the election. 337 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: Well, influencing the election is what candidates do every time 338 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: they wake up in the morning and open their mouth. 339 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: They're influencing the election. 340 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: Of course, they're going to try to cover up or 341 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: downplay negative stories, and of course they're all going to 342 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: try to uplift or exaggerate positive stories. I just this 343 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 2: is like daily normal life. And I can't imagine that 344 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: this becomes a thirty four felony case. And I can't 345 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: imagine that in the normal time of the normal jury 346 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: anybody would look at this as something that deserves prison time. 347 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: I mean, there may be crimes he committed in the 348 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: other cases that deserve prison time, not this one. 349 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Not for a bookkeeping entry. 350 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: As to whether it's legal fees or reimbursement for the 351 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: hush money. I mean, that's and influencing an election. That's 352 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: that's the business, right, That's what everybody in politics and 353 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: media is doing. 354 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: Now. 355 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: Everybody's influencing elections. Boy oh boy, they actually get twelve 356 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: jurists to buy this. We've got more coming up. 357 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI a 358 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 8: six forty. 359 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: Run from one to fourth and then after four o'clock 360 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app. There 361 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: has been a run of burglaries parked cars in Plyd 362 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: del Ray, Westchester. This has been going on since January, 363 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: and finally two juveniles have been arrested taken into custody. 364 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: They did, man, they broke into what seventeen By the way, 365 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: good parenting here, huh, excellent, good job. They should publish 366 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: the photos of the parents, probably just the parent. They 367 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: probably didn't grow up in two parent households. Let's go 368 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: to Chris Adler KFI News with all the details. 369 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 9: Hey John, Hey, yeah, So LAPD arrested those two miners 370 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 9: for at least ninety two car break ins john across 371 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 9: west Yes, ninety two total, at least that we know of. 372 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 9: And this is across Plia, del Ray and the Westchester 373 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 9: air area. Going back to January. So in January sixty 374 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 9: cars were hit in the Westchester area. Then about two 375 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 9: weeks ago they hit fifteen more cars in Westchester, and 376 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 9: then this past Sunday, John, seventeen other cars were burglary, right, 377 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 9: so that's ninety two totals. 378 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: See all right, So the seventeen vehicles I mentioned that 379 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: was just over that was. 380 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: Just Sunday, That was just Sunday. 381 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 5: That was Sunday after church. 382 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they probably were coming. 383 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 9: From church, right I would, I would expect no less so, 384 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 9: and then LAPD said this morning, the investigation and actually 385 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 9: the video footage that they pulled from several of these 386 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 9: car break ins is what led to the identification and 387 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 9: they were able to find their location at an apartment 388 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 9: complex on Manchester Avenue where they found the two miners 389 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 9: with credit cards, IDs, backpacks, burglary tools. So they're saying 390 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 9: that these are the two responsible. So they were booked 391 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 9: for the car burglary reason. Then they were released to 392 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 9: their parents and police say the investigation is still ongoing, 393 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 9: but is asking anyone out there who may have any 394 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 9: surveillance video because they're going to turn this over to 395 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 9: DA Gascoyne's office for felony charges. 396 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: John, They are all that's right. It's an election year, 397 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: so he probably will charge them with felonies. 398 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: Well they that's what they say. 399 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: They might even go for jail, might be a weekend 400 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: in jail for these two guys. 401 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 5: Well, we don't know exactly how old they are. 402 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 9: I was actually trying to get some more information from 403 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 9: the investigators to find out, you know, exactly how they 404 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 9: were able to identify them, get some more information, find. 405 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: Out their age. We didn't have. We have not yet heard. 406 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 9: Back from them. But what was really interesting was I 407 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 9: was covering the store. I was in Pliads del Ray 408 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 9: today and I was speaking to a people living in 409 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 9: the area and people who work in the area, and 410 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 9: what they told me was they don't see a lot 411 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 9: of police patrol. It's been an issue for years. This 412 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 9: area of pliod Delray is like this little pocket between 413 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 9: Marina Delray and Elsagundo, and they get they say, they forget, 414 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 9: they get forgotten about. And I spoke with Councilwoman Tracy 415 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 9: Park about it, about the concern of the residents, concern 416 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 9: of people working in the area, who say they get 417 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 9: about five to seven new homeless. 418 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 5: People a week. 419 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 9: John That's what they told me, five to seven new 420 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 9: homeless people, new faces that they're seeing, they say, But 421 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 9: because it's right off the one oh five. They're getting 422 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 9: a lot of riff wraft from inner city people coming 423 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 9: creating a lot of problems along the along Vista del 424 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 9: Mar and going into I'm sorry, a Dockweiler Beach right 425 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 9: there in So they're seeing a lot of crime in 426 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 9: the area, but not a lot of police. 427 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: Is a nice neighborhood and it's generally a peaceful neighborhood. 428 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 9: They're quite a few very nice, very quiet. I spoke 429 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 9: with a woman who lives on the sand today and 430 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 9: she said, you know what, although the number is shocking 431 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 9: with the amount of car breakings in the area, but 432 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 9: she said it's nothing new that they've been dealing with this. 433 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 9: Her neighbor had his car broken in five times. He's 434 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 9: an uber driver. He relies on his vehicle for his income. 435 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 9: And she said, this is this kind of stuff is 436 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 9: happening in Plaia Delray. 437 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 5: But they think it's happening because there's there's there's. 438 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 9: A lack of police patrol because there's not there aren't 439 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 9: enough police on the streets because of the defunding of 440 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 9: the police department. And they said, but it also gets 441 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 9: forgotten about people. People know that they can kind of 442 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 9: get away with crime there, and the homeless hang out there. 443 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 9: They sleep on the beach, they camp out, and no 444 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 9: one's really doing anything about it. 445 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: It's a little out of the way and they don't 446 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 2: get the police. They need that they they I mean, 447 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: because I've gone there a number of times and there's 448 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: no police. It doesn't even seem like it's part of 449 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. But that wasn't sure that it was part 450 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: of Los Angele. I wasn't sure if it was its 451 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: own thing or part of that country. 452 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 9: Such a small pocket John that it has the Sheriff's 453 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 9: Department and of part of Pacific LAPD Pacific Division covering it, 454 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 9: so it's not really a signed to one department. It's 455 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 9: kind of you know, it's like, okay, well, whoever is available. 456 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: They'll call them, you know. 457 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 9: And one thing I spoke with a bartender out in 458 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 9: play it Al Ray today and he told me about 459 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 9: two years ago there was a homeless man who pulled 460 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 9: out a machete and a bat attacked two women and 461 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 9: it took him three nine to one one calls to 462 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 9: get police to come out and handle this guy. And 463 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 9: then the police asked the bartender what do you want 464 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 9: us to do with him? Do you want us to 465 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 9: drop him off about forty miles away or do you 466 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 9: want us to take him to jail? 467 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 5: And he said, are you kidding me? You guys are 468 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 5: the police? Why you're asking me. 469 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: What I want? 470 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 8: You? 471 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: This is life under Karen Bass, this is life under 472 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: Eric Carcetti. You know, where the police have a mandate 473 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: to do what It should be obvious that he's committed 474 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: crimes and you should be taking him into the police 475 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: station and try and then putting them in jail for 476 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 2: a while. That's what was normal, and now the police 477 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: are asking. 478 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 5: That's just well. 479 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 9: I did talk to La City council woman Tracy Park today, 480 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 9: who's been very vocal about the situation. 481 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: She's very good. 482 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, she's she's really good. She's very active, and 483 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 9: she was just you know, she's very happy to see 484 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 9: these arrests, but she knows more work needs to be 485 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 9: done and says what she's pushing for right now in 486 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 9: the city council John is these video cameras, license plate 487 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 9: readers that we're seeing in Beverly Hills, we're seeing in 488 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 9: the Orange Police department. Because with the lack of police 489 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 9: officers on the streets and Pliadelray in that area. 490 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 5: She said, there needs to be a supplement. 491 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 9: We need to have a supplement in the city, something 492 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 9: else that we can do. 493 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 2: The cameras get the evidence after the fact that if 494 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: they had police patrols, that would be the deterrent to 495 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: from the keep the thieves from stealing. You know, if 496 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: there's a police car always coming down the block, you're 497 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 2: not going to go on a spray like that. 498 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 9: Well, I spend a lot of time in Plia Delray, 499 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 9: the Westchester area, and I can tell you today was 500 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 9: the first time that I have seen an LAPD car 501 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 9: drive through that area on Culvert and Vista del Mar 502 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 9: in months. And like I said, I spent a lot 503 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 9: of time out there. I saw one car and I 504 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 9: spoke with LAPD Pacific today and I said, hey, you guys, 505 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 9: have you guys you know, beefed up patrol And the 506 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 9: officer said to me always that was his responsible. 507 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: When I talked, yeah, But. 508 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 9: When I talked to the residents and I talked to 509 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 9: the to the employees who have been there for years, 510 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 9: they said, no, we're not seeing any kind of patrol. 511 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 5: We need patrol out here. 512 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: No, I've never seen an LAPD car drive through Plyidel 513 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: Ray for all the time. 514 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 5: The day was my first. 515 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, Maybe next time I go, I'll see one too. 516 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 5: I'll tell them you said hi John. 517 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: All Right, all right, very good, Chris, thanks for the report. 518 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: Chris Adler from KFI News. I can't believe two kids, 519 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: two kids, ninety two vehicles since January. No, they don't 520 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: have any police roaming the streets Applyadel Ray. In fact, 521 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: when I've been there, I've always been wondering, is this 522 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 2: like LA County? Is this an unincorporated area? It's like, 523 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: who's what's the jurisdiction here, because there's no obvious sign 524 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: that it's it's part of Los Angeles. 525 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: Not if you're looking for a cop car. 526 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: This is But you know, this is what Garcetti and 527 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: Karen Bass, this is what they've created. They don't fund 528 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: the police properly. They demonized the police. They take a 529 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: knee for the police. I mean, this is this is 530 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: what you do. Affect affect the story. I didn't get 531 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: to yesterday. In a while, get to it next because 532 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: this will lead right into it. They they're not getting 533 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: recruits showing up for LAPD classes. Karen Bass claims she 534 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: wants to hire the police. Well, the police don't want 535 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: to be hired at least, you know, young men and 536 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: women don't want to become police officers in LA. And 537 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: do you blame them, Well, the way they've been abused 538 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: and insulted and neglected. I mean, it's just it's just 539 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: outrageous the way the cops have been treated in LA. 540 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: So why would somebody not already invested in the CYSM, 541 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: Why would they why would they volunteer? 542 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that coming up. 543 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI AM 544 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 8: six forty. 545 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: Coming up after two o'clock. 546 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: Television journalist Jeffvaughn, and he's hosted some shows here at KFI. 547 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: He's got a story about George Gascone. It's election here 548 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: and gas Goone is fighting for his life to get 549 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: re elected at Ali County DA. And he became well 550 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: known for punishing deputy das who opposed his policies, and 551 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: he would demote them, he would he would send these 552 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: guys out to the equivalent of prosecutorial Siberia. Well, these 553 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: guys are getting promoted again, they're being they're now getting promotion. 554 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: They're being reeled back from Siberia, and Jeff Fawn's got 555 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: the story and he will talk to us coming up 556 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: after two o'clock here at KFI. Now, we were just 557 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: going through report with Chris Adler from KFI News and 558 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: she was down in a ply To Delray, which is 559 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: a very peaceful, civilized area of Los Angeles, just south 560 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: of Marina del Rey, south of Venice. But they've had 561 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: two I assume they're teenagers. They're listed as juveniles welthough, 562 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: you never know. It could be two nine year olds 563 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: the way things are going. And these two characters broke 564 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: into ninety two cars since January, ninety two cars on 565 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: January twentieth, they smashed the windows of more than sixty 566 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: parked cars. April fourteenth, fifteen, and then April twenty first, seventeen, 567 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: so it was three separate dates. Ninety two vehicles were smashed, 568 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: stole a lot of stuff, stole a lot of backpacks, 569 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: ID cards, credit cards. 570 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: It shocks me. 571 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: There is no chance I think I have ever left 572 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: my ID, my credit card, my wallet inside a car 573 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: a eever, but ply of Delray is the kind of 574 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: neighborhood where it seems like everything would be quiet and 575 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: safe anyway. What Chris said is people in the neighborhood 576 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: told her, hey, we don't have any police patrols here, 577 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: and they don't. When I've been down there, I've never 578 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: seen a cop. There's a lot of neighborhoods left. The 579 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: police work is overloaded to the south side and the 580 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: east side. That's where the serious crimes are going on, 581 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: which leaves the west side, for example, and parts of 582 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: the valley exposed. Because there is less violent crime, there's 583 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: more of this kind of stuff, which you know normal 584 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: people take seriously, burglaries, thefts, shoplifting, all that stuff that 585 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: makes people frightened and crazy. That's important to them. Well, 586 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 2: for police, that's a secondary job. And the reason that 587 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: they don't have police patrols in all the neighborhoods, one 588 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: of the reasons is because Eric Arcetti and the police 589 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: chief Michael Moore treated the cops so badly by disrespecting 590 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: them from the time of the George Floyd riots right 591 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 2: up to this moment. And Karen Bass hasn't done much better. 592 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: She smiles and talks a good game, but she hasn't 593 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: fooled anybody. She was always a part of the defund 594 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: the police crowd. And I mean she's naturally a progressive 595 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: and progressives don't like police all right, Now that she's 596 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 2: become mayor, she's got to at least give superficial support 597 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: to hiring more cops. But she doesn't have a whole 598 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: lot of money either. Well, she claims she wants to 599 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: reach ninety five hundred officers. You know how many we 600 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: have right now eighty eight hundred, So we're about seven 601 00:34:52,960 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 2: hundred short. Since July one, five hundred and fifty officers retired, resigned, 602 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 2: or were dismissed five hundred and fifty and they only 603 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 2: got three hundred recruits that graduated. So just since July first, 604 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 2: we lost two hundred cops. For as far as total manpower, 605 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: there's another one hundred and thirteen that are going to 606 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: leave by June thirtieth. And the thing is the classes 607 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: that they're graduating are really small. The LAPD has graduated 608 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 2: an average of about thirty one recruits in its last 609 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: ten classes, thirty one. And you might be saying, well, 610 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: how many cops does LA need. Well, the interim chief 611 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: Dominic Choi says, we need twelve thousand. We have eighty 612 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: eight hundred. He says, we need twelve thousand, and that 613 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: number has been around for over twenty years. The former chief, 614 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: William Bratton, he said twelve thousand was the minimum that 615 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: the department needed. And of course with the defund the 616 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: police ninnis idiots on the city council and the defund 617 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: the police. Mayor and Eric Garcetti take a knee. Garcetti, 618 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: take a knee, Michael Moore. What they did is they 619 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: demoralized the cops, and a lot of the bad guys 620 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: took cues from the police chief and from the mayor 621 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: that hey, open season on cops. 622 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: These guys are bad. I mean, look what happened. 623 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: Look what happened to the sheriff's deputy in West Covenia 624 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 2: shot in the back while he's sitting on a motorcycle 625 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: at a red light. All that comes from the top. 626 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 2: They look and see how the people's representatives, the people 627 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 2: running the department, the people running the city in the county, 628 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: what do they feel about the police. Oh, the police 629 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: are considered bad guys. Okay, well we're bad guys. They're 630 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 2: bad guys. We'll take them on. That's the mentality. There's 631 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: a high burnout rate among the officers. In fact, this 632 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: comes from a US Department of Justice study. There's reasons 633 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 2: for what they call a historic crisis and police staffing 634 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: because of public scrutiny of police conduct. You know, all 635 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: the phones that come out every time a cop is 636 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: trying to wrestle with a bad guy. Suddenly all this 637 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: video recording devices come out, and of course the video 638 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: is edited out of context. It's put on the idiot 639 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 2: local newscasts. How many stories have has something looked bad 640 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: for the cop and it's like, wait, wait, wait, you 641 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 2: know that's not the entire video. You didn't see the setup. Well, 642 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: that's caused a big problem. Cops are afraid to move, 643 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: they're afraid to act. They didn't want to join high 644 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: officer burnout rates, and there are a lot of other 645 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: jobs that pay better. You know, unemployment's pretty low. Most 646 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: people are happy with the jobs they have right now. 647 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: You know how bad it was after the George Floyd situation. 648 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: The department lost five hundred and seventy seven officers in 649 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: that one year, five hundred and seventy seven. 650 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: And now they're getting it back. They're getting the officers rehired. 651 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: Two three dozen at a time, largest class to graduate 652 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: from LAPD since July had thirty six officers, the smallest 653 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: twenty five. So about two to three dozen. And it's 654 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: a six month course. You get nine hundred and twelve 655 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 2: hours of training. You know the police aren't trained well enough. Hey, 656 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: they got nine hundred hours of training. Let's see how 657 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: you do. It's a lengthy background check. And let's see 658 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: the pay now, starting salaries eighty six thousand dollars. There's 659 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: a lot of bonuses over time, incentives, but they're not 660 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 2: getting paid of fortune, not especially live in California. So 661 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 2: so what happens Why del ray get gets no coverage 662 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: and two teenagers get to run amuck and bust into 663 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 2: ninety two vehicles. We come back, Well, this is actually, 664 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: you know, another part of the problem. George Gascone he 665 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 2: demoted or reassigned a number of deputy DA's who had 666 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: opposed his policies. With Gus Goon running for reelection and 667 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 2: pols say he's over twenty points down. Well, is he 668 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: now giving promotions to these same deputy das that they 669 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: had that he had demoted. We're going to talk with 670 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: Jeff Vone. Jeff Vaughn television journalist. He'll come up with 671 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: us after two o'clock. He's got the story, and we've 672 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: got Debora, mark Lid and the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, 673 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You 674 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 675 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 676 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app