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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williams and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly and this is the Drive and Matt, it's

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Speaker 2: time for the Fantasy Football Focus here to tick off

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Speaker 2: our number two.

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Speaker 3: And I'm looking here at the Pro Football.

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Speaker 2: Focus PPR rankings and they have their one through two

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Speaker 2: hundred here, but they broke them into some tiers. And

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Speaker 2: it's interesting because I'm looking here at tier number one

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Speaker 2: and there are only eight players in Tier number one.

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Speaker 3: M I would say that's a big number. I mean

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's just McCaffrey alone or whatever, but all right.

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Speaker 2: These are so I think the way they're doing this

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Speaker 2: easily your sure first round guys.

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Speaker 3: And then you consider an NFL draft. Yeah, these sixteen

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Speaker 3: going no matter what, the first round type of thing.

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Speaker 2: So you're looking at Christian McCaffrey, C D Lamb, Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, A mon Ross, Saint Brown, Bjean Robinson,

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Speaker 2: A J.

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Speaker 2: You those your surefire first rounders. And I can't argue

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Speaker 2: with any one running back. There only one running back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I get too bje there, Bjeon usually Hall and

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Speaker 3: b Gen are in that conversation. I was thinking about

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Speaker 3: this today coincidentally, and I didn't look at through a

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Speaker 3: PPR lens. But Tyreek's going to be my number one receiver,

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Speaker 3: and but for PPR, I might prefer Lamb. I mean

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Speaker 3: there's just no target competition at Also, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty passes. Yeah, and he's gonna catch the short stuff,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna catch the long stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's why mon Ross Saint Brown is so valuable. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like he could he can have one hundred and ten catches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he gets a bump in PPR. Like

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Speaker 3: who in that group is better in PPR? I would

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Speaker 3: say Lamb Saint Brown, not AJ Brown, not Tyreek, maybe Jefferson. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, would you consider any of them? It's so

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Speaker 3: early for this, But this is what I was thinking

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Speaker 3: about with Tyreek is if I have one one, I

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Speaker 3: might go Tyreek over McCaffrey. Not in PPR necessarily, but man,

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Speaker 3: these receivers are safe and what Tyreek did last year

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Speaker 3: was bonkers. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, I never

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Speaker 2: get one one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had it. I mean, and

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Speaker 3: I think that my home league.

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Speaker 2: I think the one time that I had it in

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Speaker 2: the home league, I traded it.

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Speaker 3: Really like. I don't like waiting so long for the

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Speaker 3: next That's the problem that I have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to if I can get more picks earlier, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: I prefer to pick in the middle of the round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Tier two guys, this is much bigger

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Speaker 2: group here. You're talking about. Well, it goes all the.

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Speaker 3: Way down from nine to twenty six. Okay, so you

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Speaker 3: would get if you did take McCaffrey one one, you'd

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Speaker 3: get up with three or three of them. Yeah. So

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Speaker 3: you're looking at bress Hall, I think he's more of

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Speaker 3: a Tier one guy for me, him and Bjeon. No,

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Speaker 3: he's a one two basically. In this one, I could

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Speaker 3: see uh Pook and the.

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Speaker 2: Kua, Barrett Wilson, Karen Williams, Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, Davonte Adams,

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Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, Chris Olave, Travis atn Isaiah Paiceco, Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, QB one for them, Josh Jacobs, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Drake London, Rashad White, Marvin Harrison, Brandon Ayuk.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I was mostly focusing on the running backs.

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Speaker 3: That was twenty six names, just eleven running backs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so nine in that group. They're not all the same

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Speaker 3: to me at all, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm with you. Those guys at the top

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Speaker 2: are much different from the guys.

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Speaker 3: At the even just focusing on the guys at the top,

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Speaker 3: Gibbs and especially Barkley are the ones I want way

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Speaker 3: over Karen Williams and some of the others. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: didn't mention Derrick Henry. I did not. I mean it's

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Speaker 3: PPR right crushes him, you know, more than most backs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll have especially in Baltimore's offense. Does he get

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Speaker 2: the twenty catches this year?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so. But I

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Speaker 3: mean as a fantasy over an over riding fantasy thing.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I think Henry's vastly underrated. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: the ball. Well, I don't know if I want him

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Speaker 3: in PPR, but if I could get him outside the

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Speaker 3: top thirty five, I want him in PPR. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tier three not quite as big, And this takes you

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Speaker 2: it from twenty seven down to thirty nine. Sam Laporta

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not sure I'm going to be the one

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Speaker 3: that takes the tight end one this year.

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Speaker 2: Then you got DK Metcalf, Travis Kelce, Mike Evans, Michael Pittman, Deebo,

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Speaker 2: Samuel Still no Au by the way.

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Speaker 3: No, he was the end of the last one. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: you're right, you're right, you're right. Last one.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Nico Collins, Derrick Henry, DJ Moore, Alvin Kamara, Jaylen Waddle,

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Speaker 3: I want nothing to do with Kamara. I don't really

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Speaker 3: love that group. I don't either. I mean the guys

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Speaker 3: like Nico Collins, say, Nico and Evans were two I

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Speaker 3: thought were values at that price, and the other one's like, eh,

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing cart wheels.

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Speaker 2: Over Moving into Tier four, this takes you from forty

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Speaker 2: all the way down to my goodness, sixty four. So

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Speaker 2: Tier four is pretty big. Now we're looking at James Cook,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes as QB three Malik Neighbors, Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we said Harrison yet. He was up

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Speaker 3: until a lot of names once I lose trap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lamar Jackson, DeVante Smith, Trey McBride is tight end four.

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Speaker 3: In fine with that, the Devin ah Chan RB fifteen

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that price, I'm forty six. I'm perfectly happy

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about early fourth round picker ing

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Speaker 3: like that as my RB two yeh yeah, right, or

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Speaker 3: I'm three receivers deep and yeah yeah wow. Uh c J.

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Speaker 2: calvinly Evingram, Joe Burrow, Kyle Pitts, George Pickens, at sixty two,

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Speaker 3: That's your Tier four guys, kind of like some of

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Speaker 3: the tight ends you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all shop in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kincaid, I thought was a value at that price. Ing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna get a looking pepper. He was. He got

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Speaker 3: a lot of targets last year and he's athletic after

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Speaker 3: the catch. I like that tier more than the tier

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kennedy Walker is RB seventeen. Yeah, I'm in

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Speaker 3: What's a six round pick a Chan and Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 3: and run everywhere else. Yeah, gotta be fine with that, right,

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Speaker 3: that would be audio and like pick up nauseating around

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a league winner there.

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Speaker 3: Uh the tiers. I think Walker's gonna be a big

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Speaker 3: target of mine. Yeah. Yeah, we might have to fight

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Speaker 3: over him in the league work. Yeah, it seems like

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Speaker 3: stock is down on him and it shouldn't be Tier

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Speaker 3: five guys. Keenan Allen, that's I trust him though, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah. Uhry McLaurin, okay, should get him out of

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Speaker 3: Washington him, Yeah, boost him up a little bit. We

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Speaker 3: she Rice Deontay Johnson. I don't know how you put

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Speaker 3: where she Rice there. I don't know either, but nice

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Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, uh, Deontay Johnson, Aaron Jones, Chris Godwin,

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Speaker 2: Remondre Stevens.

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Speaker 3: And that's more.

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Speaker 2: Realistic to me for Steven like the one we did

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Speaker 3: How you must say the same for Deontay. Yeah, Deontay's

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Speaker 3: going a lot later than that in the underdog stuff

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Speaker 3: right now, which makes no sense to me at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: who's he's fighting with? Photargraph right it should be like here,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get ton of targets.

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins, DeAndre Swift, Hollywood Brown, David Montgomery, Jonathan Brooks,

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Speaker 2: David and Joku tight End nine, James Connor, Zamir White,

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard, Lad McConkie, Jordan Addison, Jordan Love, Courtland, Sutton Roe,

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Speaker 2: Mdoonjiay Brock, Bowers is tight End ten, Hyer, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 2: as a QB ten, Javonte Williams, Jayalen Warren is RB

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Speaker 2: twenty this PPR Yeah, Yeah, Rock Party, Najee Harris, Zach Moss,

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas, Raheem Mostert, Keon Coleman, Jade and Daniels, Jake

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Speaker 2: Ferguson tight End eleven. Devin Singletary is RB thirty one,

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Speaker 2: Christian Watson, Brian Robinson, Nick Chubb at one oh one.

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Speaker 3: Chubb and Rice are almost impossible to run.

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Speaker 2: I can't yeah, can't even know. You can't draft Chubb.

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Speaker 3: Not right now unless you get some really good news soon.

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Speaker 3: Obviously huge tier. I don't have a huge tear iNTS

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Speaker 3: on all those. But like when you said David Montgomery,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, that's pretty late for Montgomery in that offense.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty late for both Steeler running backs when they

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Speaker 2: are RB twenty seven and RB twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: I forget who I was listening to, but it was

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Speaker 3: an interesting conversation of which backfields for fantasy or do

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Speaker 3: you trust two backs? And they had this big like

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Speaker 3: draft and some of the names that came up were

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Speaker 3: Miami of course, Detroit of course, the Steelers, even Arizona

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Speaker 3: now with the Benson and Connor and they came up

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Speaker 3: about five or sixteen. There's enough there for two guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and that Steelers were the epitome of it. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's Steelers and Lions or the poster child.

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Speaker 2: Okay with jayde and Daniels's QB twelve, Yeah, he can run.

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Speaker 3: My problem with him, though, is I hope he says healthy.

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Speaker 3: He protects himself so poorly.

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Speaker 2: So okay, So you love Richard Anthony Richardson, but you're

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Speaker 2: not You're not in as much on.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm buying him. I'm buying him at twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you said, Brock Party in that neighborhood. I would

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Speaker 3: take Daniels over Perty. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 3: they're close. I mean Perty, you'll throw a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I mean Jay Daniels might. I think his floor is

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Speaker 2: like eight hundred rushing yards said.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be one of the top. Gon be

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Speaker 3: one maybe two reason and take off. Yes, so that's great.

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Speaker 3: I just hate how he protect himself. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean he could get better at that. Yeah he could.

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Speaker 3: They could tell.

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Speaker 2: I hate run out of bound, went in doubt. Run

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Speaker 2: out of bound, You're faster? Slide yeah, or slide that's allowed?

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Speaker 3: Uh looking here. But I have no problem investing in

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Speaker 3: him at tier seven. Back him up with Stafford or

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Speaker 3: mount Yeah yeah, Cayle Williams, Xavier Worthy, kirku you Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams at that price, though I prefer Daniels.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take definitely take Daniels, and I would

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Speaker 2: want to make sure I've got a good veteran backup

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Speaker 2: that's gonna play a lot.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers or maybe Daniels or Williams is even my two.

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Speaker 3: You know, I already drafted Burrow. That's diicy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what I think about Williams or fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Yet, Jackson Smith and Jig Butt one O five, Ezekiel

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have might Jacobe Myers, Trey Benson.

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Speaker 3: Curtis Benson at that price, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, that's that's the.

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Speaker 2: Perfect backup situation there. Yeah, take jayde and Daniels and

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Speaker 3: That's what they don't. That's what they do. He led

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Speaker 3: I guess he's fighting Zeke for the how Dowbell than that?

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Speaker 3: I think I would to Ezekiel Elliott. I just think

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Speaker 3: That's fine, you know that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if Dalbels, if he takes over the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's enough.

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Speaker 2: Chewba Hubbard, Ty Chandler, Antonio Gibson, Dalton Schultz is tight

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Speaker 3: Those backup running backs in that neighborhood kind of interest me.

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Speaker 2: Yipson Chandler, Jared Goff and then Tyler Aljierre.

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Speaker 3: Algier would be interest me too, Yeah, because guys are

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Speaker 2: Does you know if you're taking yours, that's your fourth

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Speaker 3: Undah? Okay, I mean I have mixed feelings about handcuffing

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Speaker 3: if you draft the beje on high and Algiers is backup,

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Speaker 3: you know you have both on your roster. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: Uh, Looking here down into tier eight, Julia McLaughlin, Jery's a.

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Speaker 3: Paul Andre Miller's me on my team a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rashid Shaheed, Romeo Dobbs, Adam Thielen, Marshawn Lloyd, Darnell Mooney,

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Speaker 3: Could Josh Palmer end up? He could be sleepy, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is QB twenty Uh you.

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Speaker 3: Could throw thirty touchdowns? He could? Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: What's weird about that situation is Shakier is almost entirely

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Speaker 3: to do that. Coleman, they keep talking about like he's

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Speaker 3: a power slot, like he's a Colston. Samuel's best out

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Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna play outside, right, right, right, So Samuel's one

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Speaker 2: Khalil Herbert Johan Dotson, we just spent talking about.

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Speaker 3: Him sleepy or sneaky one right, yeah too.

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Speaker 2: Bucky Irving, the Mario Douglas, the Tavian Wicks.

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Speaker 3: I don't think at that price absolutely.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy is QB twenty one.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not buying that. Drake may is QB twenty two.

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Speaker 3: I'm not buying that either.

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield is QB twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Could he fall back to Earth? He could regret I

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Speaker 3: expect the regression. I mean, he lost his offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: got paid, and I'm not super invested in him. JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 3: I mean assume many runs. Will levis okay?

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Speaker 2: Ricky Piersoll the Cowboys defense at one sixty.

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Speaker 3: Three, that's the first d off the board. Yeah, sacks, sacks.

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Speaker 3: What this is telling me? Though? I liked a couple

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Speaker 3: of the wide receivers in that group, not many. That

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Speaker 3: not many. That was what I was thinking, too, Like,

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna you can take your wide receivers, you

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Speaker 3: seven rounds. I had the exact same impression, like I

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Speaker 3: don't want the shop for these receivers. I'll take some

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like Marshall Lloyd my second.

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Speaker 2: I could even live with some of those guys as

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I had the same thing, like maybe I just

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Speaker 3: we mentioned in that tier, you know, and Pat farm

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Speaker 3: mean that's that's cheap and I think it will only

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Speaker 3: go up. Yeah, moving on to tier nine. You got

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Speaker 3: Ray Davis in Buffalo. I'll take him at that. That's

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Speaker 3: a nice player overall.

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Speaker 2: Is that you're talking about one sixty four RB fifty four.

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Speaker 3: Like the fifteenth round, fourteenth round. I mean they'll he

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Speaker 2: He'll end up starting some games for them this year

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right right, right now. He's a power back. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't think they want Alan to run quite as

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Speaker 3: running backs, I'm in on. You've named a few of

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Speaker 3: them that are, you know, rounds eleven through fourteen. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Xavier leg at the Ravens defense at number two.

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought at all about team defenses.

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Speaker 2: I'm not in at the Ravens defense over at two.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not lost your defensive coordinator. We've talked about

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Speaker 3: I don't think they'd be either one of those would

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Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell, Okay, Quinton Johnston, the Browns defense.

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Speaker 3: There's a case there as long as they're at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Roshawn Johnson one, Dell Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Robinson would be way higher. Yeah, he's got a floor.

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Speaker 3: They might have seven catches for only fifty yards.

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Speaker 2: You just wonder how much the rookie bites into what

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Speaker 2: he does. Yeah, San Francisco, Jermaine Burton, Rashad Bateman, that's

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know he's gonna be on the field

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Speaker 3: where you're getting them?

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Speaker 2: Justin Tucker, your first kicker. Elijah Mitchell the Jets defense,

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Speaker 3: Elijah Mitchell sort of sneaky if there's truth to wanting

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Speaker 2: They draft, didn't they.

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Speaker 3: The real fast dude from Louisville. Yeah, yeah, Guard, Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But Mitchell's he performs what he's out there, right, he does,

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Speaker 3: and McCaffrey injury away from being way more vital, way more.

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Speaker 2: Marvin Mims, Miles Sanders the Dolphins defense. I'm not buying

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Speaker 2: that as defense center six. Luke Muskrave at tight end seventeen.

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Speaker 3: I like the player a lot. Yeah, I mean he

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Speaker 3: I will too.

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith is QB twenty six, Michael Wilson, DeMarcus Robinson,

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Speaker 2: Steve Deelers defense at number seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they should be a top twelve one

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Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Camanie Videll with the Chargers running back, Yeah, Malachai Corley

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Speaker 2: the way down at wide receiver with seventy nine. Highly

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Speaker 2: subject to change, Yeah, Hunter, Henry Elijah Moore, Keaton Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: He's worth taking a shot at if he's healthy. I

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Speaker 3: mean he was explosive and very efficient.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey, Derek Carr the Bill's team, Aubrey kicker for.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys, kicker who he is? The Bills defense, Tyrone

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Speaker 2: He's super raw, but there's nothing in front of him, right,

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Speaker 3: Those are your top two hundred. They go farther than that.

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Speaker 3: WoT you're gonna go all the way down.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking here behind a lot of kickers and things

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Speaker 3: To Russell Wilson mentioned Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is QB thirty one if he just puts

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Speaker 3: Year, right right, I mean he's a starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred rushing yards at twenty six touchdown passes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: over three thousand passing yards. He's much better fifteen games.

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Speaker 3: Much better than some of those guys that are rated

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Speaker 3: ahead of him, Rice Young and yeah, come on, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's I'm close. I assume the general public thinks he

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Speaker 3: He's the starter. Yeah, yes, So I read an article

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Speaker 3: value right now of everybody out there, of Underdog prices

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Speaker 3: for these best balls. Wilson's going way too late, and

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Speaker 3: I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Fields comes in at QB thirty three, not

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Speaker 3: Would you ever handcuff that quarterback situation. No, I don't think. No,

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Speaker 3: if you're in a twenty five team or roster dynasty league, yes,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Calvin Austin comes in at wide receiver one oh three.

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Speaker 3: be like best ball. He's great because he catches an

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Speaker 3: eighty yarder for you, right, you know that's thing, yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: Ques Watkins is listed on their wide receiver one fourteen,

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Speaker 2: ahead of Van Jefferson I had of Van Jefferson. I

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Speaker 2: get a feeling that if, if, if they line up today,

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Speaker 3: Be the equal snaps of Calvin Austin or would play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to go too much deeper with that, but

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Speaker 2: that's the h They do.

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Speaker 3: A four hundred PPR four hundred four one hundred, including

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Speaker 2: A lot of kickers, a lot of defenses, a lot

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Speaker 2: kind of tells you where. So think of what they

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Speaker 2: think about the Steels quarterbacks situation as a whole, but

432
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Speaker 2: then also where they feel Fields. Is that in terms

433
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Speaker 2: of the backup, right, That's.

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Speaker 3: About what I was gonna ask you is, let's say hypothetical.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully it doesn't happen. Wilson does an Aaron Rodgers where

436
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Speaker 3: he lasts four plays and he gets hurt, he's out

437
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Speaker 3: of the year, and justin you're the guy. He's a

438
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Speaker 3: top ten guy for Fantasy. For Yeah, he gonna run

439
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Speaker 3: for a bunch of yards. And I don't care what

440
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Speaker 3: team he's on, but behind that line with this coordinator

441
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Speaker 3: and as much as they're gonna run, wrote a ball

442
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Speaker 3: to George Pickens, right right, get the ball to be Yeah,

443
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Speaker 3: well ahead of like Aaron Rodgers and you know guys

444
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Speaker 3: that are established stars. Yeah, he's gonna run. He just will.

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Speaker 3: That's it, and that's you know, he does it as

446
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Speaker 3: well as anybody. Yeah, I'd probably have him ahead of

447
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Speaker 3: like our Jaden Daniels conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would you rather have him or Anthony Richardson

449
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Speaker 2: if all things about the same. Yeah, Actually I might

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Speaker 2: rather have Fields because he's been the healthier, he's been

451
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Speaker 2: the healthier player.

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Speaker 3: No, that's maybe he's the top five he has been

453
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Speaker 3: in the past in terms of fantasy playing. You knew

454
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Speaker 3: he's right in every snap, I might have him over

455
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Speaker 3: Burrow or Stroud or you know, non runner.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's some of the questions that the

457
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Speaker 2: national media has with few. I think fantasy football trickles

458
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Speaker 2: into the reality it does, and people, well, yeah, he's

459
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Speaker 2: been a top ten, you know, top ten fantasy quarterback. Yeah,

460
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Speaker 2: but that's not.

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Speaker 3: A different world. Yeah, a different world. He runs. People

462
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Speaker 3: haven't seen him run are going to be blown away.

463
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Speaker 3: I've seen him run the OTAs a minicant. He is fast.

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Speaker 3: He is fast, and he's a thoroughbred. I mean he's

465
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Speaker 3: not a track guy.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he gets the road, he gets to the edge,

467
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Speaker 2: just like watching Lamar get.

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Speaker 3: To the edge. Yeah yeah, yeah, and with power, yeah bigger.

469
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Speaker 3: I really think he is the best running back, running

470
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Speaker 3: quarterback in the league right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just has to refine the rest of it

472
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Speaker 2: and that that that will take time.

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Speaker 3: But I still like the player. Oh I did too,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how much we'll see of him

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Speaker 3: in the regular season, but he's not. I don't think

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Speaker 3: he will be. But he's intriguing as could be.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get to it at break. That's gonna do

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Speaker 2: it for the fantasy football focus. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right

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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 3: and you're listening to.

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Speaker 2: The Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and on the

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Speaker 2: thirty third team today. Matt Marcus Mosher right, the top

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Speaker 2: seven defensive corps heading into the twenty twenty four seasons.

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Speaker 2: So he did pass rusher off ball linebacker, secondary player.

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Speaker 3: Took a corner or safety. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, and your pass rusher could be an outside linebacker,

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Speaker 2: an edge, it could be a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So someone from each level of the defense. Basically,

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Speaker 3: it's a good way looking at it. So let's take

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Speaker 3: a look at that here and how he has this.

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Speaker 2: I think we might see the Steelers on here.

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Speaker 3: I think we should. We should. Yeah, the second levels

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Speaker 3: maybe where they fall short, but I think Queen feels

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Speaker 3: that very nice one. You're picking one here, right, You're yeah,

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Speaker 3: just one, one representative from each spot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So number seven for him is the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons, Eric Kendricks, Trayvon Diggs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe we could come up with eight through

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Speaker 3: thirty two that are better. Certainly we could come with

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Speaker 3: a lot better linebackers. I mean, Kendricks is thirty two

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Speaker 3: or something like that, and he's fine. Diggs is fine,

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Speaker 3: but he's not top ten corner in my opinion. Parsons

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Speaker 3: is a total superstar. Yeah, you know, would you put

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Speaker 3: the Bengals ahead of that? Who would we pick? Hendrickson, Hendrickson, Wilson?

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Speaker 2: Wilson And that's one of the corners, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they brought back a couple, you know,

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Speaker 3: the veterans s. Yeah, I mean they're not bad on

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Speaker 3: the back end. There's not a star, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're probably top tennish I would say, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: think they'd be better than Dallas because of Parsons, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I think Diggs is probably better than anybody they

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Speaker 3: have in the secondary. Number six is Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're looking at Justin Mattebouquet, Roquan Smith, Kyle Hamilton.

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Speaker 3: That's a great trio. Yeah, that's pretty strong. I mean

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Speaker 3: they got hitting some other neighborhoods. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the problem for them is the things around.

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Speaker 3: Those guys, the edge guys. They're not as strong as

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Speaker 3: corner as they used to be, right, Clowney and van

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Speaker 3: Noy and Queen and Stone and some of they're not stars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know when they're with their defense this year,

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Speaker 2: and I know I said this last year, I didn't

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Speaker 2: think I thought it was gonna take a step back.

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Speaker 3: But at that.

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Speaker 2: Point, remember when I when I was saying they hadn't

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Speaker 2: like signed van Ney yet, No, they.

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Speaker 3: Had it like Clowney and van Noy and those those

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Speaker 3: guys were Later. Oh, I was with you. I thought

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Speaker 3: their d line was going to be flat out. But

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Speaker 3: there's a reason why they went out and got guys

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Speaker 3: like them because they saw it.

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Speaker 2: Like they got in the training camp and all those

538
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Speaker 2: young edge rushers that they had drafted, they haven't worked out.

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Speaker 3: They've been okay, but they have not hit home runs

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Speaker 3: on him at all.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean none of them have looked you, Oh

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Speaker 2: we can, we can build around this guy. That's not

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Speaker 2: been the case.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The guy they are building around is Matabuke, right.

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Speaker 3: Who when we to be fair, I mean, I thought

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Speaker 3: their D line was going to be a problem. I

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Speaker 3: thought they'd be fine the back seven and Mattabuque wasn't

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Speaker 3: Mattabuque yet. Yeah. He took a massive step for Hue,

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Speaker 3: which I think he'll continue. I think he's real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, huge, and Hamilton right is not taking a

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Speaker 2: step down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Number five the Pittsburgh Steelers good, they would be

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Speaker 3: right there with Baltimore, certainly ahead of Dallas. I assume

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Speaker 3: it's what Queen Amenca? What Queen Amenca? Okay, that's pretty

556
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Speaker 3: good trio, pretty good.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's pretty good power trio.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is what we're doing. But Cam Hayward

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Speaker 3: and Porter aren't bad either. Yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: They've got guys. They've got more around them, these guys

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Speaker 2: than the two teams that we just mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's this time next year it might

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Speaker 3: be Porter over Maker or could be ideal. Ideally, if

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Speaker 3: you're the Steelers, you'd like that to be a conversation

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Speaker 3: to be a conversation. Yeah, Or is there a chance

566
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Speaker 3: Wilson's over Queen? Probably not, but yeah, you know it's

567
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Speaker 3: right getting ahead of ourselves. I mean, what's gonna be?

568
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Speaker 3: What what's gonna be? But I mean high Smith's Smith.

569
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Speaker 3: Yeah and Cam and you know it's a good defense.

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Speaker 3: It is it really is. I mean Cam Slutton completes

571
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Speaker 3: it to me. Yeah at four. Okay, this is this

572
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Speaker 3: is arguable with the Steelers Kansas City. So I'm guessing

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Speaker 3: it's Jones, Chris Jones. That's an easy one. Bolton is

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Speaker 3: probably the linebacker. Yeah, but Bilton versus Queen is Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the same. If not, Queen's probably Queen's better athletes.

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Speaker 3: Queen had a better year last year. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: assume it's McDuffie with Snead gone. Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 3: Steelers over that are I would try m close.

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Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie, I think has one career interception. He does

580
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Speaker 2: not take the ball away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's mostly a slot. He's a good player then, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But I'd take Manco over him.

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Speaker 2: I'd take the Steelers trio over that one. I just would,

584
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: even if Watton Jones are a wash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I take Queen slightly over Bolton. I take Mincover McDuffie. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would tell I would too. It's a good one. Yeah,

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00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: it's a good one. Yeah, definitely belongs on the list.

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00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers is slightly better. Me too, Me too.

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Speaker 3: Three is Cleveland, Okay, Garrett j Oka Ward.

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00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: I assume that Denzel Warden and Denzel Ward to me

591
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: is the weaklink because I don't even think he's their

592
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: best corner.

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Speaker 3: Emerson's really good.

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00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: I think Emerton's better, and I think I think Ward's

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Speaker 2: on there because he's a name, plays a name.

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Speaker 3: And they're paying they're paying them a bunch of money.

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Speaker 3: But nobody still think Mincover Ward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anybody goes into a game shain.

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00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: We can't throw the ball at Denzel Ward. In fact,

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Speaker 2: you might throw prefer throwing the ball at Denzel Ward.

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Speaker 3: It might get to that point sooner than later the

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Speaker 3: way Emerson's progressing. H I think Steelers over him. I mean,

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00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: we could fight Garrett and Waddell Day and I don't

604
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Speaker 3: even care to be well.

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00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: I think Queen's better than I love him both. I

606
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: think Queen's a better player today is yeah.

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Speaker 3: Definitely a better year. Yeah, and I'll think mankover Ward.

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00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so we got down right now, they're

609
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: third at worst, right, Yeah, got the top two here

610
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: San Francisco at two, all right, Nick Bosa, Fred Warner,

611
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Varius Ward.

612
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: Ward's always considered way underrated, and I haven't studied him.

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00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: People think he's really really good, but I don't think

614
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: he's the top ten corner. No. I don't think two

615
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: names are awesome though.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're secondaries where they're really kind of good, not great.

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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do one past rush and they always invest

618
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: in D line, so their.

619
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Speaker 2: Thing is I mean, Fred Warner is the best linebacker

620
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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 3: Bosa is the top four. Warner and Roque one heard

622
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Speaker 3: that are definitely better than Queen that we've mentioned on

623
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Speaker 3: the second level. Yeah, yeah, but I got no problem

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00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: with the Niners out of that. I mean, Bosa washes

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00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: out with like Garrett and Watt to me, Yeah, that

626
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Speaker 3: doesn't Yeah.

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00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Warners again, your number one, your number one guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is so good. He's so good. That's the

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00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: ace up to sleeve for them there. Yeah, absolutely number one.

630
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: The Jets.

631
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Speaker 2: Quinn William is it the Williams brothers Quinn and Williams

632
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Speaker 2: Quincy Williams Sauce gardens.

633
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: It's pretty good. Quinnin or Quentin the linebacker Quincy Quincy. Okay,

634
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: why if you're a parent, I know, and you're naming

635
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: your kids, why would you make your life? Yeah? Why

636
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: would you do that? Eight of the kids right? Even

637
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: to yourself? Yourself? Yeah, you know you're gonna get old

638
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: and see now like every parent and starting the wrong

639
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: names and hey, Q and everybody comes running and maybe

640
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: they have three or four other brothers.

641
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: They get another son named quent Lynn, the daughter named QUINCYA.

642
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: I think they're fine being one, mostly because of Sauce,

643
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: Like Mink is an elite player. Yeah, but we haven't

644
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: talked about a lot of elite defensive backs in this

645
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Speaker 3: process so far. Leak corners you mean, yeah, true, I

646
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: was just thinking DB's in general. But Hamilton and Mink

647
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: are pretty strong. But Quinnin is right there with Jones

648
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: and Thoms. The d tackles. The linebacker might even get

649
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: Quincy Quincy has really come on. He might have protected

650
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 3: really well.

651
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: But he might be if we're looking at all the

652
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: off ball linebackers on this list, he might be like

653
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: six or seven.

654
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: Say he's ahead of Kendricks, that might be it. Yeah,

655
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: he's behind Bolton and Queen to me, you know, he's

656
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: coming to his own but he's got life a little

657
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: easier than most. Two and Mosley might be as good

658
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: as him. Yeah, there's actually one of the teams that

659
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: who do we pick? Yeah, that's I probably have the

660
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: Steelers third at worst. Yeah, I think so. I think

661
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 3: they got sold just a little short, little short who

662
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: was the Chiefs are the one right ahead of him? Yeah,

663
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: and I think we I'd rather have Pittsforghan the Chiefs.

664
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're looking at that, do you put

665
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: more emphasis on the defensive tackle than the edge rusher?

666
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: It seems like he does, and I understand why, but

667
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: there are some pretty longer edge rushers, I mean, like

668
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: the edg Rusher's only reason Dallas made it.

669
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: Right exactly, Yeah, otherwise they're they're not there.

670
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but it does seem like Chris Jones and

671
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: Williams with the Jets carried a lot of weight. I understand.

672
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: My other problem with that, though, is that Williams has

673
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: only done like once Quinn Quinn's Yeah, been a big

674
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: sack guy. Yeah, like whereas Chris Jones has done it

675
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: multiple years.

676
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: I get that Jones is a better resume. Yeah, you

677
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: got to show it to me again. I'm scanning my

678
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: brain to see if there's any of that in that

679
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: neighborhood and having a hard time coming up with clear ones. Yeah,

680
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean like that. I was starting with off the

681
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: ball linebacker because if you could compete there, maybe you'd

682
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: be in the mix. But I'm I think those are

683
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: the teams you mentioned. Cincinnati, it's a good one. I

684
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: think if you.

685
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: Start looking at overall with the you take the core

686
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: and then you add him what's around those players?

687
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: Much different conversation. I think the Steelers are clearly three. Yeah,

688
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: Chiefs are. That helps in the conversation. Yeah, I mean

689
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: they had a lot of role players and tough guys.

690
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: Jets aren't bad, but they lost some too. They did

691
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: they did maybe a nice f sneed or they lost

692
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: a linebacker or two as well. Yeah Gay yeah, yeah,

693
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: and yeah they brought back what tranquil but lost Willie Gay. Yeah,

694
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: so they're not as deep as they were. I can't

695
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: come up with any other team though, that I mean

696
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: has real strong cases at all three levels. Yeah, it's tough.

697
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: It is tough. It's hard to find all three pieces.

698
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: And the Steelers have been missing that middle one.

699
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: That's that's that's the thing that you know, kind of

700
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: the lynch pin, and they don't have they don't have

701
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: just one that's you, you know, all of a sudden,

702
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: if you know, if you can get Cole holcome back. Yeah,

703
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: he's not the Queen's level one. Maybe wouldn't be on

704
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: this list anywhere with any of the but he's right,

705
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: he's a good.

706
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 3: Player, right right, right. I mean, if he's your two,

707
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we're last year, he's one, we're

708
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson steps into that rule, you know. And Roberts

709
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: to me, Roberts is fine. Yeah. Yeah, so no, the

710
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: middle fields way better, way better. No, I agree. I

711
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 3: think the line and off the ball linebacker the most

712
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: improved spots on the team.

713
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think the quarterback, I don't. I think

714
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a really good defense.

715
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: And if you think about it that light. I mean

716
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: in tiro line, which is a five man unit, quarterback,

717
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: which is the most important position in sports, and off

718
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 3: the ball linebacker that's always going to have. Basically two

719
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: guys on the field are clearly improved, and we could

720
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: fight about which of the three is most improved from

721
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: last year. You got worse at receiver, but improving at

722
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: those three spots. You also got also got better at safety. Yeah,

723
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: not to the drastic, no, not to that level.

724
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: But I think you got a better player, or get

725
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: you upgraded there.

726
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: I mean, no line could go from bottom third to

727
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: top third. I think you upgraded at cornerback, I think so,

728
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: I mean not as confident, but the combination of Sutton.

729
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: Remember it was Levi Wallace last year, who's a fine player,

730
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: Peterson and some dudes that were you could pick on.

731
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: You're definitely better at the corner. Yeah, but the most

732
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: upgraded units that probably fourth for me. But they've they've

733
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: upgraded a lot of spots. Like I mean, if you're

734
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: line again goes from bottom third to top third, and

735
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: your off the ball, linebackers go from bottom third to

736
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: top third, and quarterbacks tougher to move from bottom third.

737
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: If it goes from bottom third to middle it's a

738
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: lot of difference, a lot of difference. It's a lot

739
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: of difference. Right now, people are attacking linebackers like crazy,

740
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: you can't be terrible a linebacker, No, you really can't be.

741
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: And it's it's not an easy position. It's hard of

742
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: a premium position than people realize. It used to be

743
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: like I'll just find some of the fifth round, show

744
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: them in there. Well, then Shanahan's going to eat you

745
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: alive with kittle crossing routes.

746
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: And just young guys like when people talk about Queen

747
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: and well he's he's a product of Rokuan.

748
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: We also got went into year four.

749
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: Right right right, I mean he's a huge Actually year

750
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: three he was a year three he may he started

751
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 2: to make that turn and into year four, that's kind

752
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 2: of when that you hit that slight spot.

753
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: That's when the light went on for Roquan a little earlier.

754
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: But not look go look at Roquan Smith's numbers in Chicago.

755
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: They were not happy with him his first couple of years, non.

756
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: Know, they traded him for a reason. They weren't going

757
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: to extend him. Yeah you know, and then then they

758
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: went out and gave huge money to Edmunds and Edwards.

759
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: It wasn't like their anti paying linebacker.

760
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: Were heading into that year four, year five stuff exactly

761
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 2: I just think that's much like tight end. Those guys

762
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: are asked to do so many different things.

763
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah that it.

764
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: You know, you can be really good in coverage, but

765
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: if you can't stop the run, yeah you can't play.

766
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: I also have a little bit of a problem because

767
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's Levante David telling White where to

768
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: go in Tampa Bay. I mean, maybe Roquan is a

769
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: he's certainly a positive influence for Queen, but it's not

770
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: like Alvin Harper that only gets single coverage or an

771
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: edge rusher. I'm not picking on high Smith, but obviously

772
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: Wat's better than high Smith, and high Smith benefits from

773
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: Watt because of protections, Like teams can't be like, well

774
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna double rope. It doesn't have the way the

775
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 3: position is. It's not like you pick or choose your poison. Yeah,

776
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: you know, maybe you throw it one a little more

777
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: than the other, but.

778
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: Over That's another reason why I think the Ravens defense

779
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: could take a step back because they're gonna plug in

780
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: a guy who basically really didn't play last year, and Simpson, well.

781
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: His clock is starting now. He might be two years

782
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: away from being from being at that level. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, no,

783
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: I think that's definitely a step back. Yeah, so it

784
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: definitely is.

785
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: So that was Marcus Mosher's take on the top top

786
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: trios in the NFL.

787
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting. My takeaway was there aren't many teams that

788
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: have three high quality. Yes, you know, if you're one

789
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: of the seven or eight that's even in the conversation,

790
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: it's pretty strong.

791
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: It's also three AFC North teams on there again.

792
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Eagles doesn't qualify. Yeah, you know, I.

793
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: Mean they ignore the linebacker yea, yeah, to their detriment.

794
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely. Let's get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

795
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: I am Dale at four AFC North teams.

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00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. We're

797
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Speaker 2: gonna take another break. We'll be back to finish up

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Speaker 2: the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt Kevin Patra on

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Speaker 2: NFL dot Com.

805
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: He's around the NFL writer.

806
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: He's put together the ten biggest remaining roster Holesky for

807
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: teams heading into the there's some.

808
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: Substantial ones around there are.

809
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's go ahead and take a look at

810
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: at this, and there might be a Steeler thing on here.

811
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: We'll see. Yeah, there's one I could go come up with.

812
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: Number ten is Dallas Cowboys running back. We talked to

813
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about that in the fantasy segment, Like,

814
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: I don't think Ezekiel Olli has much left in the

815
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: in the tank.

816
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 3: And Rico daldole is he's just a guy, just the guy. Yeah.

817
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: And then they have the short scat back sproll type

818
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: guy yeah from k also for K State. His dad's

819
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: a scout on the team, I forget, but he's not

820
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: a full time player. Do you think they'll do anything

821
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: about it though?

822
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean there could be somebody gets cut loose tomorrow

823
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: gets cut somebody like that.

824
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: But I doubt they like getting the heavy like Ryan.

825
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: It won't be a number one, No, No, He's probably

826
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: going to be a committee question absolutely.

827
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: For Tampa Bay Edge rusher at number nine, huh.

828
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: I mean they've invested in their D line a lot,

829
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 3: but Edge is a little light. I mean who do

830
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: they list there?

831
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Well, you're looking at they lost Jack Barrett got Yadabi

832
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: and Joe Tryon Smith.

833
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: They drafted Chris braswell, a lot of unproven young Yeah,

834
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: second day picks. Yeah, we'll see. Uh, well try and

835
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: Showyanka was a one. He was a one. Yeah.

836
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: He hasn't lived up to the billing eight. The Jets

837
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: tight end situation, they don't have have one, well.

838
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: They do, but what his face isn't terrible? Tyler Conklin. Yeah,

839
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: but they really wanted to get brock Bauers. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

840
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: I mean there's a spot for an obvious upgrade. But

841
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 3: I can live with conklinand if Corley and Williams are adequately.

842
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: Only problem with Conklin is he's got a pretty extensive

843
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: injury history.

844
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: He does, he does?

845
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: You know, if they lose him now all of a sudden,

846
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: you don't really have a whole lot there.

847
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 3: And we know like Aaron Rodgers does like to throw

848
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: the tight end. He does. I look at him like

849
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: if he's your four behind a Hall, Corley, Williams and

850
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: of course Wilson, then you're fine if he's four or five.

851
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, uh, Miami Dolphins at number seven with

852
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: their interior offensive line line, I would have that higher,

853
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: way higher, definitely higher than the Jets. You're a team

854
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: that that that thinks you have, that has Super Bowl aspirations. Yeah,

855
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: and you your interior offensive line stinks.

856
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: It's brutal. I mean they paid Jensen this the center

857
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: from the Titans, but they lost Williams from last year,

858
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 3: who's better than Robert Hunts, and Hunts got huge money.

859
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 3: I mean I would tackle in there too.

860
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're counting on Isaiah wind and he's never worked out.

861
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 3: He's kind of a he doesn't really have a home.

862
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: And two is not the biggest quarterback, not the most

863
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: mobile quarterback. If you could pressure up the.

864
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: Middle on him. Extensive injury history. Yeah, yeah, that's not good. No,

865
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: it worries me.

866
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Number six New England Patriots left tackle m right now.

867
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: It's just between Chokes and the other Penn.

868
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: State Kayden Wallace, the third round pick, both who played

869
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: right Yeah, they both played right tackle.

870
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you want to you want to throw Jacoby.

871
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: Brissett and Drake May out there, like when Drake May

872
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: is going in those fantasy drafts, like.

873
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna throw him out there with a you know,

874
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 3: I mean i'd consider receiver for them as well. No,

875
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: that's been the case for several years. Yeah. Yeah, Like

876
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: I think there's a really high chance that offense tackles

877
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: their first round pick next year.

878
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chicago bears their defensive line.

879
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: That's say de tackle mostly. Yeah, I think that's what

880
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: they're really saying. Yeah, Okay, it's just unproven with like

881
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: Dexter Gervin and those type of guys. I thought Christian

882
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: Wilkins might Yeah did I say that writer? You got

883
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: two first names? Yeah, my best buddies kids are named

884
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: Cameron Jordan, so yeah, and Jordan Cameron and Cameron Jordan

885
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: drafted the same year. So yeah, that was only which

886
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: one was older of his kids, but it's called him

887
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 3: Jordan Cameron Cameron Jordan numbers probably listening.

888
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: Number four And we just talked about this to open

889
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: the show. The Washington Commander's offensive line.

890
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: They honestly could be on there twice because their d

891
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: ns are empty too. Yeah, I mean the rest of

892
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: our team looks good. A Rome wasn't built in today,

893
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: but there's a lot more building that needs to happen.

894
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: Again, I think Dan Moore would have great value on

895
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: the open market if you're if you're looking to move

896
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: something here and get something back in return.

897
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 3: Dan Moore to me, Yeah, if I'm Washington, and maybe

898
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: even Tack a year on his deal, if you were

899
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: to trade for.

900
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: Him, if you were the Patriots, would you be interested.

901
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 3: He's better than Choos. Yeah, Plus those other guys are right, Tack.

902
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: I just don't know what you would get, you know

903
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: right right that you It wouldn't help you get a receiver,

904
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: but you maybe get a pick unless you get like

905
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: Kendrick Bourne or some you know, yeah higher than that. Yeah.

906
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So that Washington Commander's offensive line not good.

907
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would put the end there too. I think

908
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: they could be on there twice. Chargers wide receiver at

909
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: number three, they could be on there twice. Their d

910
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: tackles are terrible too. You have the running back situation. No,

911
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: that's piece together in a big way too.

912
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: For a team that wants to run the ball as

913
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: much as they do, they basically just trade it out

914
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: for the Ravens backfield.

915
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. And JK. Domons is like Dick Chubb, like, yeah,

916
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: I mean if you look at the health, yes, minimal, minimal, minimal.

917
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: I mean he's kind of a gift because of the

918
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: Harbaugh connection and right, Yeah.

919
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: Well they're good guys and they'll they'll go you know them,

920
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: And I get that, But does any does any one

921
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: of those backs get to a thousand yards this year?

922
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think so. Yeah, because the

923
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 3: other guys guys ahead of them aren't great. They're gonna

924
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: run the ball a lot. Yeah, I'm with you, Yeah,

925
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm with you. But they're leading rusher in twenty twenty five.

926
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Probably isn't No, he's not on the loss right right now.

927
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, and uh, but they're That's

928
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: why I love them Lab McConkie so much. There's not

929
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: a lot of competition there too.

930
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 3: Their tight ends aren't great and their d tackles aren't Greaty,

931
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: somebody has to catch football, yeah yeah, but in terms

932
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 3: of roster holes Washington and Chargers, and the other part

933
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: of that is is both Baltimore running backs really haven't

934
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: caught the ball in their careers. So where are the

935
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: catch is going? They're going to Lab mcconkee. Yeah, yeah, no,

936
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: I hear you, And you mentioned even like Josh palmerky, Yeah,

937
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: just by default, because I don't think it's going to

938
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: catch sixty passes this year. Yeah, I bet he'll catches

939
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: Quintin Johnson. Yeah.

940
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: Number two on this list is Pittsburgh Steelers number two

941
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver.

942
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: Agree. You know, we talked about it at nauseum. We

943
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: opened the shows. A lot of names there and they've

944
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: all had the boy. I'd feel good. I'd love that

945
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: group of names. If you added the two. Yeah, that's like, Wow,

946
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: they got too many good guys. Then you're trade one.

947
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: Then you trade one of them. Yeah right right, too

948
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: many guys that can make the team. As to ask

949
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: them to be Pickens, you know, bookend or his replacement

950
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: if he were to get hurt.

951
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: That that's that's the thing that you know, all these guys,

952
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: I've watched them all at ot as in mini camp.

953
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I see some some flashes there like

954
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: they're their NFL players fast.

955
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: But what happens if George Pickens gets hurt? Right, that's

956
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: my biggest question. You get nine in the box, you know, right,

957
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: That's that's the thing. Although I live with what they

958
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: have today, if you told me they all stay healthy.

959
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: If you're gonna put nine in the box, and I

960
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: can put Quez Watkins and at Calvin Auso.

961
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: On the field and go ahead have it. Yeah, there's

962
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: a reason that they They want speed.

963
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want speed, and even like Marquees callaway you

964
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: can run, you.

965
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: Can get downfield, yeah, Watson can run. Yeah. But it

966
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: should be on the list. It's one of the top ten,

967
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: no doubt, biggest no doubt areas of concern right now.

968
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: Number one on here Atlanta Falcons, edge rushing.

969
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 3: It's probably Ed Rusher if it's Atlanta. Yeah, they're counting

970
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: on like epicetty. Yeah, I mean it's surprised. Uh they

971
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: drafted to I think did pre walk He actually had

972
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: a pretty good year last year perform where DoD he

973
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: end up? Uh? Do you go to Titans? That's where

974
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: he was before? I can't remember, but I remember I

975
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: thought it was a decent landing spotform Atlanta. He's with

976
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: the charters. He may play quite a bit for them, Yeah,

977
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 3: because the guys can't stay healthy. But no, they're count

978
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: on epiheaty And then they used what a seventh third

979
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: round pick on edge guys I thought were.

980
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: Fast, Lorenzo They got Lorenzo Carter, they got Braylan Trice.

981
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, and you can we could talk all

982
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: day about the penis thing. But they've been searching for

983
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: that for years, forever, forever. I mean there was years

984
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 3: that t J. Watt had more sacks and the Falcons. Yeah,

985
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: I mean, but they again, the Pennock situation cost them

986
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: either the Bama kid or lot to or you know

987
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's what's what's that's what you're

988
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: paying for, you.

989
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, you know Raheem Morris is a good defensive

990
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: coaching Oh yeah, yeah, He'll figure out some ways.

991
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: To generate some pressure. But they just don't have a guy.

992
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: They don't have a guy. And we could probably say

993
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: this any of the last five years. I bet their

994
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: first round pick next year as an ed rusher, they'd

995
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: love to haven't been. They'd love to have Nick Kerbing.

996
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he'd play a lot for them. Yeah right right,

997
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: I mean Smith would be a star for them. Oh god, yeah,

998
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: I mean like they Yeah, may Sman's way better than

999
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: what they're playing with. Absolutely, But that's the problem is

1000
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: Grady Jarrett's not the interior force that he was. Yeah.

1001
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if their pass rush has been lacking for

1002
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: half a decade, yeah, that's not a bad team for

1003
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Young offensive line to start the season off.

1004
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: That's a good point. It's a good point. I don't

1005
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: know what Morris will throw at them schematically stuff. Yeah,

1006
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll be.

1007
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: Bet it's something that Mike Tomlins probably knows.

1008
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: But in terms of one on one matchups that that

1009
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: the line's not scary, no, not at all. It's a

1010
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: great one.

1011
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: It's a great one to get out of the gate

1012
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: and get some knocking in on.

1013
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1014
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: So we'll see how that works out for the Steelers

1015
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: here as they get into it. That's Kevin Patra's list

1016
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: of the top ten biggest remaining roster holes. And hey,

1017
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: we've talked about that Steelers number two wide receiver spot.

1018
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: Everybody has.

1019
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: We've thrown some names out there that I think would

1020
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: be a month still training care. Maybe something gets done

1021
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: in the meantime.

1022
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of time left and you know,

1023
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: we can get into training camp and that could be

1024
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, you know, somebody emerges line, yeah, right,

1025
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: somebody emerges somewhere that that you know, you didn't expect

1026
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: or you know, we'll see, we'll see. I mean, there's

1027
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: some effort for that to be filled. It doesn't have

1028
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: to happen now.

1029
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: And we've come up with ten to fifteen names that

1030
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: would all be of interest. Yeah, you know, some big

1031
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: from the woods, you know. Yeah, like in all every

1032
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 3: shape and size in between.

1033
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, Matt, that's going to do for the show today.

1034
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: So do it for me for a bit, gonna do

1035
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: it to you for a week. We won't have you

1036
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: back here. But again, we will be doing shows on

1037
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: Wednesday and Friday of this week. We won't do one

1038
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: the following Monday. Yeah, and as Matt works his way

1039
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: back into the country, I'll take it back.

1040
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: I'll take a day off too good. Yeah.

1041
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's gonna do it for my partner, Matt Williamson,

1042
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: who's headed on vacation for Justin Miller. Here on site,

1043
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lallie. We thank you for listening to this

1044
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.