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Speaker 2: And now your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 3: Today is January twenty eight, twenty twenty five, and we
Speaker 3: are officially eighty six days away from the NFL Draft
Speaker 3: in Green Bay, Wisconsin, as we are live from the
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl here in Mobile, Alabama. We are at the
Speaker 3: Mobile Convention Center here for the Draft Show presented by
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Speaker 3: got Nick Harris, Tommy Yarisham, Kyle Yeomans, and our first
Speaker 3: guest of the day, running.
Speaker 4: Back Atli Gordon from Oklahoma State. Olie.
Speaker 3: First off, thanks for taking some time. And it's a
Speaker 3: busy schedule here in Mobile. We're just getting kicked off.
Speaker 3: What's kind of the first thing on your plate throughout
Speaker 3: the week?
Speaker 5: You know, I feel like today we have the first practice,
Speaker 5: you know, we had to little kickoff, a little pet
Speaker 5: Bradley meeting everybody, getting to see everybody.
Speaker 6: I just feel like, you know, we got a lot
Speaker 6: to be going this week.
Speaker 3: What are you excited about the showcasing your ability and
Speaker 3: getting to interact with all the players across the board.
Speaker 4: What's the number one thing on your list? Honestly, you know,
Speaker 4: just practicing with the players.
Speaker 5: You know, it's a bunch of us here, you know,
Speaker 5: a bunch of great players, and you know we wouldn't
Speaker 5: be here for a no reason.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and obviously you're meeting with a lot of teams too.
Speaker 7: How much effort and prep do you all put into
Speaker 7: that aspect of things too, because this is, you know,
Speaker 7: a really good opportunity to meet with some of these
Speaker 7: teams for the only time in the draft process. You know,
Speaker 7: there are some teams you will meet with here that you
Speaker 7: don't meet with that combine that you could end up
Speaker 7: getting drafted to.
Speaker 5: I feel like we take a lot of time just
Speaker 5: off of our free time, you know, talking to our agents,
Speaker 5: even our free time here, you know, talking to other players,
Speaker 5: you know, getting some seeing how they feel, getting their
Speaker 5: perspective from it, you know, being able to get what
Speaker 5: we know, being able to get what they know, you know,
Speaker 5: combining our stuff like that.
Speaker 8: When you look back at your time at Oklahoma State,
Speaker 8: what's something that you did that maybe scounsels say, oh,
Speaker 8: I don't know if he did this as well that
Speaker 8: you're hoping to change their minds on here this weekend.
Speaker 5: I would say going from sophomore to junior year definitely
Speaker 5: being more downhill.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Sophomore year it was just one step going, you know,
Speaker 5: Junior year was kind of a little behind on that,
Speaker 5: but I feel like I can stay here.
Speaker 3: Why do you think you were a little behind in
Speaker 3: your junior year in that regard?
Speaker 5: I would just say it was more of processing what
Speaker 5: was going on in the box. You know, it was
Speaker 5: more people in the box my junior year than it
Speaker 5: was sophomore year.
Speaker 3: You did a great sophomore year in the way that
Speaker 3: you were able to explode just kind of onto the
Speaker 3: scene when the dope Walker reward and kind of take
Speaker 3: your career to the next level.
Speaker 4: How do you get back to that?
Speaker 3: Whenever you were talking to these NFL teams in showcase
Speaker 3: that that's the guy that you truly are.
Speaker 5: You know, just go out there and just play free,
Speaker 5: you know, not worry about anything too much, you know,
Speaker 5: especially now with being not having to worry about school,
Speaker 5: just being able to go out there and play football.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's how it'd be from now on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that trophy and your trophy case is definitely a
Speaker 7: target going into twenty twenty four, right going into the
Speaker 7: junior year. What would you say you've learned from that though?
Speaker 7: With those stacked boxes and everyone having to account for
Speaker 7: you coming out of the backfield, do you think that
Speaker 7: has helped you going into this process?
Speaker 5: I would just say, you know, being able to tune
Speaker 5: that out and run harder. You know, sometimes it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: it's a stack box, but you know in the league
Speaker 5: is going to be a stack box.
Speaker 6: Can't let that stop you.
Speaker 9: And it's no different at UIs Trinity.
Speaker 7: They were putting stack boxes on you all the way
Speaker 7: through the fifth ront of the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Yeah that is too.
Speaker 5: I feel like high school I was just able to,
Speaker 5: you know, outrun everybody was good. But you know, everybody
Speaker 5: in the next little gets better and competition gets better.
Speaker 6: So when you look at this.
Speaker 8: Running back class from top to bottom is pretty deep.
Speaker 8: Where do you feel like you stand out amongst the
Speaker 8: rest of your peers in terms of what's something that
Speaker 8: you feel like you do better than anybody else.
Speaker 5: I would say catching the ball out the backfield, being
Speaker 5: able to pick up pass bro you know, just just
Speaker 5: being a bigger back, you know, the passover comes easier,
Speaker 5: and you know, more people want to swat and swim
Speaker 5: and go through music because I'm a bigger back.
Speaker 6: So I feel like that helps a lot.
Speaker 3: Did you learn a lot of that from your time
Speaker 3: in high school before even showing up at Oklahoma State?
Speaker 4: Because there wasn't a whole lot of passing in Ulyss Trinity.
Speaker 4: They were running the ball quite a bit. I mean,
Speaker 4: how much do you have to adjust when you got
Speaker 4: up there to still water in that regard?
Speaker 5: I would say from my freshman the junior year, I
Speaker 5: definitely had to just a lot, you know, especially like
Speaker 5: you said with the past bro picking up passes.
Speaker 6: We didn't really felt like that if we did, it
Speaker 6: was me throwing it so and it did.
Speaker 5: I wasn't even throwing it, but uh yeah, I felt
Speaker 5: like freshman the junior year, I definitely had to adjust.
Speaker 5: You know, Okay, what passing? What was this linebacker gonna do?
Speaker 5: What does this dlama go?
Speaker 10: Do?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: Sometimes we got to pick up d lomba. So I
Speaker 5: feel like from freshman the junior year, I definitely had
Speaker 5: to learn that.
Speaker 9: Can you still do the pregame Hawka.
Speaker 5: I feel like, if you know, we got a group
Speaker 5: of the guys together, I definitely could.
Speaker 7: Do burying your high school experience to the college level
Speaker 7: and obviously having a good time up in still Water.
Speaker 7: What would you say, overall the carries that you've gotten,
Speaker 7: why would that be.
Speaker 9: A positive for a team to have that many carries?
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like it'd be huge just because
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a lot of carries, but also when
Speaker 5: you look around the collegiate level, it's definitely not as
Speaker 5: much as some of the other backside. So I feel
Speaker 5: like my body and everything is still fresh and you know,
Speaker 5: ready to go. You got a lot of mallets left
Speaker 5: on it.
Speaker 7: I think, especially because you look at a guy like
Speaker 7: Derrick Henry right, and he had a ton of carries
Speaker 7: in high school, a ton of carries at Alabama, and
Speaker 7: that's obviously translated well into the NFL, especially for a
Speaker 7: bigger back.
Speaker 9: Do you think that benefits you at the end of
Speaker 9: the day.
Speaker 5: I feel like it does because I feel like teams
Speaker 5: will look at it and be like, Okay, you know,
Speaker 5: we could put the ball in his hands.
Speaker 6: He knows what to do and you'll know how to
Speaker 6: manage with it.
Speaker 8: And speaking of managing it, like these guys said, you know,
Speaker 8: in high school they leaned on you a lot.
Speaker 4: At Oklahoma State they lean on you a lot.
Speaker 8: How have you learned to kind of manage that workload
Speaker 8: and take care of your body to where when you
Speaker 8: get to the NFL level you can continue to manage
Speaker 8: a workload like that.
Speaker 5: I mean, as we're getting older, you know, you know
Speaker 5: how to take care of your body. You know, some
Speaker 5: days you need more ice tub, some days you know
Speaker 5: you got to hit the lift harder. I just feel
Speaker 5: like it depends on where I am in the situation
Speaker 5: at the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to face a lot of great prospects
Speaker 3: throughout the week, whether it be in drills or one
Speaker 3: on ones and throughout these Senior Bowl practices. Who are
Speaker 3: some of the guys that you've known or faced before
Speaker 3: that you know are going to bring the heat. And
Speaker 3: even if if you don't have anybody specific that is
Speaker 3: going to be here this week, who was the best
Speaker 3: player you went up against during your college career?
Speaker 5: I would say probably during the week. You know, we
Speaker 5: practic against our own team and you know, my boy
Speaker 5: Nick Martin over there. I feel like, you know, he definitely,
Speaker 5: he's definitely going to bring the heat, and you know,
Speaker 5: I can't wait to go go against him. You know,
Speaker 5: it's always good on good, especially coming from Glomow State.
Speaker 5: The practices are always good.
Speaker 3: So anybody else in the Big twelve to keep an
Speaker 3: eye on that you've you've faced, whether they're a draft
Speaker 3: prospect or not.
Speaker 4: I would say the linebacker from Utah.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, Yeah, he's nice, he's good.
Speaker 7: We got a lot of film nerds that watch our podcast.
Speaker 7: If you had to pick one game to go, tell
Speaker 7: people to go watch, like this was my best get.
Speaker 7: Not necessarily stats, just like a game like, hey, I
Speaker 7: was good in past pro. In this game, I was
Speaker 7: good out of the backfield, I was good downhill, just
Speaker 7: complete overall from your career.
Speaker 9: What game would you say go back and watch.
Speaker 6: I would say State knsas State this past year, this
Speaker 6: past year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, why that game?
Speaker 5: I would say, oh no, no, no, b yu b
Speaker 5: yu is what I mean. I just felt like they
Speaker 5: really showcased everything. Me coming out of the backfield, catching the ball,
Speaker 5: me being able to get downhill on fourth and one
Speaker 5: and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: I feel like that showed my game.
Speaker 4: Joe you mentioned Nick Martin.
Speaker 8: You see one out it and practice a lot who
Speaker 8: won the battles in majority of the time with it.
Speaker 5: You were Nick sit at the table, all right, yeah,
Speaker 5: but now you know me and my dog, we were
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty. It was always good on good.
Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: called by the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like it'd be huge, honestly, just
Speaker 5: just hope of being.
Speaker 6: A cowboy, you know, stand a cowboy, and then I'll.
Speaker 5: Be close to the house, be able to see my
Speaker 5: mom at any time, you know, my family.
Speaker 6: I feel like that'd be huge.
Speaker 4: That would be an awesome time.
Speaker 3: Allie Gordon joining us here on the Draft show. Allie,
Speaker 3: good luck this week, go show out. Can't wait to
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Speaker 6: Yea, sir, thank you' I'll tell you later. He gets
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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Draft Show here from Mobile, Alabama
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty five Reese's Senior Bowl. We've got
Speaker 3: our second guest. It's Mike Green Edge rusher from Marshall
Speaker 3: and Mike, we've just told you you're already an early
Speaker 3: fan favorite across the board for draft fans at home.
Speaker 4: What is your goal this week?
Speaker 3: What's the number one thing you're trying to achieve over
Speaker 3: the week of practices.
Speaker 4: And then the game on Saturday.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm basically out here trying to show that I
Speaker 18: compete with the best guys in the country. And I
Speaker 18: feel like there's sometimes some talk about competition levels, and
Speaker 18: I'm basically here trying to show that I could play
Speaker 18: with these dudes.
Speaker 3: Of course, you guys were Sunbelt champions up at Marshall,
Speaker 3: had a great year in Huntington, West Virginia. But you
Speaker 3: talked about the competition element. Why do you feel like
Speaker 3: that's the case because you guys played some of the
Speaker 3: top competition.
Speaker 4: You played against.
Speaker 3: Ohio State, you played against some of those other teams
Speaker 3: in the Sun Belt in and non conference play along
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 18: Yeah, maybe because it wasn't consistent, Maybe because we didn't
Speaker 18: play the best of the best guys each week, So
Speaker 18: of course going to be like at least a little
Speaker 18: talk about it. But I don't really think in most
Speaker 18: cases that's that's not the factor. I know sometimes it
Speaker 18: could be like that, but for the most part, like,
Speaker 18: I still think we played the top notch competition at
Speaker 18: some points of the season, and there's other barriers that
Speaker 18: have to overcome, like double team, triple teams, getting uh
Speaker 18: getting chip blocked, and all those types of things. So
Speaker 18: I think it was still a challenge and I'm just
Speaker 18: excited to be out here and showcase my talent.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: You mentioned being double team triple team all the time
Speaker 8: on film. When you get one on one against the
Speaker 8: tackle or whoever it may be, what do you feel
Speaker 8: like you do best in order to win there and
Speaker 8: get to the quarterback?
Speaker 18: Yeah, most of the time, I have a I have
Speaker 18: a plan of how I'm going to approach the tackles
Speaker 18: that we're going to.
Speaker 6: Face that week.
Speaker 18: Most of the times I was able to beat them
Speaker 18: any kind of speed rush or any kind of finesse move,
Speaker 18: So that was kind of like the thing that I
Speaker 18: think I did the best at the last season. So
Speaker 18: it just depended on which opponent we were facing. Some
Speaker 18: opponents I had to do speed rushes. Some point I
Speaker 18: have to do power rushes. So it's just dependent on
Speaker 18: who we were facing that week.
Speaker 8: You mentioned the variety of past rush moves. It stands
Speaker 8: out on film. You can win in a lot of
Speaker 8: different ways. What's your favorite favorite past rush move and
Speaker 8: what do you feel like makes it so effective for you?
Speaker 18: I think spinning because I'll sell either inside or outside
Speaker 18: very good, and I'm able to get down and leverage
Speaker 18: and be a little bendy and fast, So I think
Speaker 18: it's easier for me to sometimes spin around guys.
Speaker 6: So I'll probably say spinning.
Speaker 7: You in this era of college football, nine out of
Speaker 7: ten of these guys. Maybe that's a little high, but
Speaker 7: a lot of these guys here the first stop doesn't
Speaker 7: really work out, and then they find the second stop
Speaker 7: and it's able to really, you know, help their career.
Speaker 7: Going from Virginia to Marshall and having to go through
Speaker 7: that process again, go down to the G five level,
Speaker 7: but still find your way into first round conversations. How
Speaker 7: do you think that speaks to your progression.
Speaker 18: I think it just speaks to you, like everything that
Speaker 18: you need to know about me. I'm a guy that
Speaker 18: keeps my head down to keep pushing, regardless of the
Speaker 18: competition level and regardless what challenges I.
Speaker 6: May have faced.
Speaker 18: I was still able to keep my head down and
Speaker 18: keep going. So I think that just tells you the
Speaker 18: type of guy that I am and the type of
Speaker 18: football I like to play.
Speaker 7: I know Coach Huff runs that program like an NFL team.
Speaker 7: What would you say your experience under Charles Huff and
Speaker 7: that coaching staff prepared you for the NFL.
Speaker 18: Coach Huff, he's a great guy. He kind of played
Speaker 18: like the grandfather of the team. He sat back, He
Speaker 18: lets you figure out things yourself, and he was just
Speaker 18: able to let us be able to go out there
Speaker 18: and just play football. And I think he's a great
Speaker 18: coach because he he's not out there on the field
Speaker 18: with us, so he let us figure things out and
Speaker 18: I think that that helped us in the long run.
Speaker 4: And he's a great guy.
Speaker 6: And I love Coach Huff to death.
Speaker 9: Sorry, I'm not trying to run through questions here.
Speaker 7: I got one more As far as yesterday way and
Speaker 7: you're one of the big winners getting in over two fifty.
Speaker 9: How big was that for you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, it was huge.
Speaker 18: I didn't know how big it was going to be
Speaker 18: for me at least, but I knew I was gonna
Speaker 18: have to come in here a little bit more heavier
Speaker 18: than I've been this past few years. But I feel
Speaker 18: like it it was a big accomplishment for me, simply
Speaker 18: because there was a lot to talk about me being
Speaker 18: undersized and things like that, and I came in not undersized.
Speaker 18: So of course people are going to keep coming with
Speaker 18: things that like arm length and hand size and all
Speaker 18: those different types of things.
Speaker 4: But that's just challenges that everybody's.
Speaker 6: Gonna have to face.
Speaker 18: And I feel like, regardless what the measurements is, the
Speaker 18: tape is the tape.
Speaker 3: Mike green Edge rusher from Marshall, joining us here on
Speaker 3: the Draft Show. Going back to what you talked about
Speaker 3: with the winning ability and the success rate of a
Speaker 3: finesse move and a speed move. At Marshall, you led
Speaker 3: the FBS in sacks, sack yardage, tackles for loss this
Speaker 3: past year, put together a monster season. You're going up
Speaker 3: against that competition that you mentioned as well, this week
Speaker 3: in the Senior Bowl, do you think you'll have to
Speaker 3: employ more than just one speed move or one uh
Speaker 3: finesse move in order to get it done now that
Speaker 3: you're going up against some of the better tackles in
Speaker 3: the country and then ultimately into the NFL.
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: These guys watch tape on me.
Speaker 18: So the same things that I've been doing to get
Speaker 18: to this point now is probably not the same things
Speaker 18: that I'm being able to do this week. I'm gonna
Speaker 18: have to pull out the different things that's in my
Speaker 18: tool bag and and and show that I could do
Speaker 18: different moves besides just speed rushes and and and infiness moves.
Speaker 3: You sound like a film buff in your own right.
Speaker 3: You watch a lot of film.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I watch a ton of film, especially on myself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, a little self reflection.
Speaker 3: And you talked about having a plan for each tackle
Speaker 3: coming into this correct, Do you have a plan for
Speaker 3: the tackles for this matchup?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: For the Senior Bowl? Who are you going up against
Speaker 4: and how are you gonna win?
Speaker 18: For sure, I'm going to I'm going up against right
Speaker 18: tackle from Purdue Miami, Minnesota, some two organ guys. So
Speaker 18: I think I think it's gonna give me a chance
Speaker 18: to showcase my talent and and those guys that they're great.
Speaker 18: All of them have different types of skills set and
Speaker 18: different types of things that they're good at. So so
Speaker 18: I kind of got an idea in the back of
Speaker 18: my head of what things I can do against each
Speaker 18: and every.
Speaker 4: One of them.
Speaker 8: You mentioned kind of being self reflective and watching a
Speaker 8: lot of film on yourself.
Speaker 4: What's something that you see in yourself?
Speaker 8: It's like, you know, I gotta get this right, and
Speaker 8: you're hoping to get right this week.
Speaker 18: I'll probably say bringing out different tools that that's in
Speaker 18: my bag. Kind of like what I just touched on
Speaker 18: is like, they know what I'm good at, and they
Speaker 18: know what I'm best at, so so they're gonna try
Speaker 18: to eliminate that. So I think for me, it's going
Speaker 18: to be it's gonna be big that that I go
Speaker 18: out there and and I show other things that I'm
Speaker 18: good at. And I think that's going to be very
Speaker 18: important for me to go out there and and and
Speaker 18: just show that that that I could just do different things,
Speaker 18: not just be your rushing and not just just spinning
Speaker 18: or not just trying to finesse a guy.
Speaker 7: So a big part of this week in Mobile is
Speaker 7: not only on the field, but also meeting with teams,
Speaker 7: getting to know some gms, some coaches, and things like that.
Speaker 7: If you had to explain what Mike Green is like
Speaker 7: off the field, what do you get into.
Speaker 6: I like golfing.
Speaker 9: Okay, you got a nice swing.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I'm not too good at it, but but
Speaker 18: I want to go through that to that phase now,
Speaker 18: so when I'm like thirty and forty and fifty, I'm
Speaker 18: able to go out there and put some nice swings
Speaker 18: out there. And I just like being outside table tennis.
Speaker 18: I like playing pickle ball. I'm in Arizona right now training,
Speaker 18: so that gives me a good opportunity to go out
Speaker 18: there and play pickleball because that's like a big pickleball city.
Speaker 18: Apparently I didn't even know that before I got there.
Speaker 3: But not very big in pickleball up in Huntington, West Virginia.
Speaker 6: Not very big pickleball out there.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, And like you said, being outside and in
Speaker 3: the mountains of West Virginia, always an opportunity to go
Speaker 3: out there and have some fun. Jude, who was the
Speaker 3: best offensive tackle you went up against throughout your college career.
Speaker 6: There's there's a there's a lot of good ones that
Speaker 6: I faced.
Speaker 18: I think the most difficult tackle for me at least
Speaker 18: will be the left tackle from Virginia Tech sixty five.
Speaker 18: I think he just transferred to maybe Utah or something
Speaker 18: like that. I'm not too for sure, but it was
Speaker 18: his an arm length. Like like as y'all, y'all guys
Speaker 18: probably know, I don't got the longest of arms. His
Speaker 18: arm length is what is what gave me challenges. But
Speaker 18: he he was a good football player. He his IQ
Speaker 18: was tremendous and and I think he was one of
Speaker 18: the best tackles I faced last year.
Speaker 3: All Right, So, if if you're like like Nick's talked,
Speaker 3: talked about having that conversation with the GMS, with the
Speaker 3: coaching staff, if Jerry Jones was on the other side
Speaker 3: of that camera and you're having to pitch to Jerry
Speaker 3: Jones why you should be a part of the Dallas
Speaker 3: Cowboys organization, what would your pitch be.
Speaker 18: I'll probably say, just like my relentless effort to get
Speaker 18: around the ball, my relentless effort to continue to get better,
Speaker 18: the type of guy that I am, I'm continuously rising
Speaker 18: throughout the years, and not just a football player, but
Speaker 18: as a person. And I think I was just pissed
Speaker 18: him about how how like Nonsalon I am, and how
Speaker 18: I'm just able to keep going regardless of what type
Speaker 18: of situations get thrown my way.
Speaker 3: Absolutely might appreciate you taking some time aspreciate so much
Speaker 3: congrat asoiation getting to this point in the journey. Go
Speaker 3: get them this week and we'll talk to you again
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Speaker 3: Time for our final guest of the day, Marcus bow
Speaker 3: from the University of Purdue up in Purdue, Indiana, one
Speaker 3: of the top offensive tackles in this twenty twenty five
Speaker 3: NFL Draft class. And Marcus, first off, you've gone up
Speaker 3: against some of the better competition already throughout your Big
Speaker 3: Ten slates, some of the best teams, best players. What's
Speaker 3: so special about the Senior Bowl Week and the opportunity
Speaker 3: that's at hands coming over these next few days.
Speaker 21: I feel like you know you're getting to go against
Speaker 21: more NFL prospects, more talent. It's always going to be
Speaker 21: a good, good time going against some good players. You know,
Speaker 21: anytime you gets to step on the field for me
Speaker 21: is always blessed. So I'm excited.
Speaker 3: There's one of one thing about our viewership. They're big
Speaker 3: film buffs. They love watching film. And we've already had
Speaker 3: one of our other co hosts bring your name up
Speaker 3: in conversation. If you're talking to those that have been
Speaker 3: watching the film this week, whether it's a GM or
Speaker 3: a coach, what's your message to them on what you're
Speaker 3: working on and how you're trying to get better.
Speaker 21: I just want to be consistent and win all my
Speaker 21: reps really for the most part, and show everybody that
Speaker 21: I can play multiple positions. I mean, in general, I've
Speaker 21: just been working on playing center, playing guard, playing tackle,
Speaker 21: being able to play left and right, just working on everything,
Speaker 21: to be honest.
Speaker 4: And you expect to play all three this week.
Speaker 21: I definitely expect to play some guard. Not sure about center,
Speaker 21: but yeah, awesome.
Speaker 8: Your Big Ten Conferences known for the physicality at the
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage and just kind of the mix of
Speaker 8: the elements up time at times with up North and cold.
Speaker 6: And all that mixed together.
Speaker 8: You know, usually you turn out some pretty good offensive
Speaker 8: lineman like yourself. How I was playing in that conference
Speaker 8: helped mold you into the player you are, and especially
Speaker 8: going up against some pretty good defensive line talent too.
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's it's been great for me. I mean since
Speaker 21: I've been playing since you know, red shirt freshman year.
Speaker 21: I started all the games and I was going against
Speaker 21: some big ass dudes at guard. So it's been It's
Speaker 21: helped me a lot grow physically mentally, and it's definitely
Speaker 21: been a challenge.
Speaker 8: You've gone up against some some pretty good defensive lineman
Speaker 8: in your day.
Speaker 4: Who would you say is the best that you've faced
Speaker 4: and why? Uh? Matchup wise?
Speaker 6: I feel like Mazie.
Speaker 21: Smith when my red shirt freshman year was he was
Speaker 21: pretty tough, he was strong as an ox in the
Speaker 21: Big Ten championship game, he was probably one of the
Speaker 21: better ones.
Speaker 9: Are trying to appeal the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the versatility between inside and outside obviously,
Speaker 7: there's a lot that you can learn from that, not
Speaker 7: only in the college level, but also take into the
Speaker 7: NFL level for any team that would be looking at
Speaker 7: you potentially at both Why do you feel like either
Speaker 7: or could work.
Speaker 9: At the NFL level.
Speaker 21: I feel like, I mean, I have the athleticism and
Speaker 21: the knowledge about ball to play either one. I feel
Speaker 21: like I'm just I feel like I can do it.
Speaker 21: I mean, I know I can do it. I'm ready
Speaker 21: to play wherever they ask me to, for sure.
Speaker 7: I know a big part of this experience here and
Speaker 7: Mobile is not only on the field, but also meeting
Speaker 7: with teams and gams, getting to know you, coaches, getting
Speaker 7: to know you. For anybody who's wanting to get to
Speaker 7: know Marcus bo, what would you say you're about off
Speaker 7: the field?
Speaker 21: Off the field, and then I'm really chill. I don't
Speaker 21: I don't do too much. I stay at home. I
Speaker 21: hang out with my dog, spend good time with.
Speaker 4: The people I love.
Speaker 21: What kind of dog you got, Staffy Pitt?
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, there you go.
Speaker 4: In a little while, I missed her.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what's your name?
Speaker 6: Roxy?
Speaker 4: Roxy?
Speaker 9: You've been training, that's why you haven't seen her?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's at back out, gotcha? Where are you training
Speaker 4: at Dallas?
Speaker 6: So? Dallas?
Speaker 4: Very sure? So you're you're nearby? Of course, a great
Speaker 4: group over there doing great work.
Speaker 3: What are some of the things that you're technically trying
Speaker 3: to get better at throughout the training process and then
Speaker 3: this weekend mobile.
Speaker 21: I'm really working on, you know, hav a good pad
Speaker 21: level of my past set's kind of just been working
Speaker 21: on snapping the ball really, that's I haven't really been
Speaker 21: working on fundamentals of the snapping, but just trying to
Speaker 21: get comfortable and learning how to snap and learn how
Speaker 21: to get off the ball, and just really working on
Speaker 21: my game overall.
Speaker 3: Is there a position between the three that you feel
Speaker 3: most comfortable at?
Speaker 4: Is it? Is there one that outlines it better?
Speaker 21: I feel most comfortable at tackle. I mean I understand
Speaker 21: it the most. I know what it takes and you know,
Speaker 21: in terms of depth and with with the setting and whatnot.
Speaker 21: But I'll probably say tackle as them.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: You talked about being a film buff and kind of
Speaker 3: getting into the knowledge of the game. How much have
Speaker 3: you watched guys at the next level NFL tackles, NFL
Speaker 3: offensive lineman and is there anybody you model your game after.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've watched a lot of Trent Williams when I
Speaker 21: first switched to tackle, you know, his his game was.
Speaker 21: It helped me a lot, to be honest, I like
Speaker 21: it took a lot from him in terms of what
Speaker 21: he does with his hands and a lot of things
Speaker 21: in the run game that he did. But I like
Speaker 21: to watch a lot of Trent Williams for.
Speaker 4: Sure, A good one, for sure.
Speaker 8: The good thing about sorry to cut you off, but
Speaker 8: the good thing about this week is you get to
Speaker 8: go up again some of these top tier guys that
Speaker 8: you know, defensive tackle and edge. Have you looked through
Speaker 8: the list at all and are there any guys that
Speaker 8: you're looking forward to playing against.
Speaker 21: I've looked through the list. I've watched, you know, some
Speaker 21: tape on most of the edge guys. I wouldn't say
Speaker 21: there's really anybody in specific that I'm excited to go against,
Speaker 21: but I'm excited for the competition.
Speaker 7: If you had to go back and tell fans, like, hey,
Speaker 7: go watch this game, this is probably the game I
Speaker 7: was most sound in Pass Protection, Run Game Complete overall?
Speaker 9: What game would you say that would be?
Speaker 21: Probably say the Oregon or Michigan State game.
Speaker 9: Yeah, one of those games.
Speaker 21: Just going off with what you said, I feel like
Speaker 21: I was in a flow, having a good game. You know,
Speaker 21: I don't remember really getting beat at all that game,
Speaker 21: So whenever I don't get beat at all during the game.
Speaker 4: It's good for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you said you're you haven't necessarily honed in on
Speaker 3: anybody that's on the list, but there's been some people
Speaker 3: honing in on you. We talked earlier with Marshall edge
Speaker 3: rusher Mike Green. He said, I'm excited to go up
Speaker 3: against Marcus Bow and what.
Speaker 4: You bring to the table.
Speaker 3: So you have the reputation preceding you. We're excited to
Speaker 3: get to watch you. Final question for me, what would
Speaker 3: it mean? Of course, the Cowboys have had a rich
Speaker 3: history on the offensive line. What would it mean if
Speaker 3: on Draft Day you get your name called and you're.
Speaker 4: Going to get a star on the side of your helmet?
Speaker 4: That'd be pretty neat.
Speaker 21: I remember our offensive line coach had us watch The
Speaker 21: Great Wall of Dallas multiple times the past two years,
Speaker 21: and just like as an offensive line that documentary, But
Speaker 21: I feel like it'd be cool.
Speaker 6: Man. Dallas is a great.
Speaker 21: Organization, great franchise and has history behind it.
Speaker 3: Hey, Nate Newton is a big friend of the show
Speaker 3: and a big day for sixty one man.
Speaker 21: He's want to watch him on that documentary time and
Speaker 21: once we're done, we'll get you some insight before you
Speaker 21: hit the practice.
Speaker 4: Phil Marcus, thanks so much for taking some time. Good
Speaker 4: luck this week. Congratulations on getting to this point. We've
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Speaker 3: Mike Green and Marcus baal or Bo.
Speaker 4: Excuse me to come and sit down with us. It's
Speaker 4: been interesting.
Speaker 3: Nick, we talk about these guys and of course the
Speaker 3: film study and a lot of times this is the
Speaker 3: first real contact that you have with them through the
Speaker 3: draft process. From this point forward, we'll have the draft
Speaker 3: process including Senior Bowl of course.
Speaker 4: Then you've got combine.
Speaker 3: You've got thirty visits in a lot of different elements,
Speaker 3: pro days, whatever it may be. What are your first
Speaker 3: impressions on the three guys that we got to talk to today.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good environment to kind of sit down
Speaker 7: and get to know these guys. Obviously I knew Ali
Speaker 7: a little bit from before his time in Oklahoma State,
Speaker 7: so good to catch up with him.
Speaker 9: Mike Green.
Speaker 7: When he walked away, I think we all three looked
Speaker 7: at each other like, man, that was a good interview.
Speaker 7: So I know Mike Green's a fan favorite for a
Speaker 7: lot of guys, and rightfully so. I mean you're looking
Speaker 7: at you know, him weighing in at two hundred and
Speaker 7: fifty one pounds yesterday, coming in here and having those
Speaker 7: measurements come in. Granted the arm length might be a
Speaker 7: little short, but I think this is a guy who's
Speaker 7: stamping his spot as a top twenty pick and if
Speaker 7: he has a good week this week, that can only continue.
Speaker 7: But I think you talk about the personal element, and
Speaker 7: that's obviously I think it's an underrated part from the
Speaker 7: fan perspective. It's an underrated part of this process here
Speaker 7: in Mobile or the underrated process of the at the
Speaker 7: part in Indianapolis for the Combine is when these teams
Speaker 7: sit down with these guys and get.
Speaker 9: To know them.
Speaker 7: We've heard many times great talents get put off the
Speaker 7: board because of character concerns or something that was a
Speaker 7: red flag in a Combine meeting or a Senior Bowl meeting.
Speaker 7: So you know, getting to know the person is just
Speaker 7: as valuable as getting to know of a player.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you were unanimous on Mike Green. That
Speaker 8: was a really good interview, and you're right. I think
Speaker 8: the personality portion of it has something to do with
Speaker 8: it because you think about how much time these guys
Speaker 8: are going to spend with their coaches, their position coaches,
Speaker 8: the strength staff, and their teammates, so you know, you
Speaker 8: want to make sure that everything is a good locker
Speaker 8: room fit too. But really, all three of these guys
Speaker 8: that we talked today seem like they fit that. Bill
Speaker 8: and Mike Green came to me Across is very confident.
Speaker 8: He broke down his game really well. I appreciated how
Speaker 8: he kind of went into his different past rush moves
Speaker 8: because that popped out on film and we can win
Speaker 8: in so many ways at the line of scrimmage. And
Speaker 8: then Ollie Gordon being able to explain, you know, hey,
Speaker 8: here's why my sophomore year to junior year jump wasn't
Speaker 8: what we expected.
Speaker 4: And the same thing with.
Speaker 8: Marcus bo talking about some of the guys that he's faced,
Speaker 8: and he mentioned Mozzi Smith as a guy who who
Speaker 8: gave him some trouble back in his college days.
Speaker 9: So can I say that surprised me, that was surprising.
Speaker 4: That was a little surprised, But that was surprising. But
Speaker 4: I think he mentioned it is like just brute strength
Speaker 4: and that that doesn't surprise me at all. But how
Speaker 4: good he was at Mission, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know a lot of necessarily.
Speaker 4: Twenty he was great at Michigan.
Speaker 7: Yeah, let me back track, fan, it wasn't necessarily surprising
Speaker 7: that he said, you know, Bozzie Smith the player, because
Speaker 7: he again, he was talented the Michigan and he's he's
Speaker 7: I think he finished the season just fine last year.
Speaker 9: The Cowboys forward for sure.
Speaker 7: If this seemed drafted a one tech in the first round,
Speaker 7: I wouldn't hate it, because I think you could get
Speaker 7: better at that position. But you look back at what
Speaker 7: he was in college, that's maybe not the most surprising.
Speaker 9: But he's just he's.
Speaker 7: Faced a lot of you know, big defenm like that
Speaker 7: Ohio State defensive front.
Speaker 9: Like there was no guys there. But uh, remember I
Speaker 9: didn't mean to tell you out there.
Speaker 3: Michigan Cats that are at the top of the too.
Speaker 4: He didn't say either one of their names. He said
Speaker 4: the one that was drafted.
Speaker 8: And Andrasia Stewart at the edge out of Michigan too,
Speaker 8: So that there's all kinds. I mean, you look at
Speaker 8: Ohio State, Jack Sawyer, J T. Twoey MALIAU. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: mean that's impressive that Mazzie Smith stuck out amongst the
Speaker 8: rest of those guys.
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of draft people that are
Speaker 3: just hitting their head on the table.
Speaker 4: They're like, I don't want to hear about that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff.
Speaker 3: But of course, bow was a guy that brought us
Speaker 3: brought up in the early portions, and you could kind
Speaker 3: of hear there. The versatility is something that teams covet
Speaker 3: good offensive lineman. He's at least the tackle or the
Speaker 3: film that we've seen.
Speaker 4: He's better at tackle.
Speaker 3: But he said he's confident pretty much anywhere on the line,
Speaker 3: but he still wants to kind of stay there on
Speaker 3: the outside.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think it's a fascinating thing we are
Speaker 7: going to talk about now that there is finality in
Speaker 7: the coaching search, Brian Schottenheimer being hired. There's going to
Speaker 7: be a lot of consistency coming over from the previous regime.
Speaker 9: But what do the changes look like?
Speaker 7: And I've written a little bit about that on the
Speaker 7: Star Telegram, is what exactly can the changes be expected
Speaker 7: from the Schottenheimer regime? And I wonder how that trickles
Speaker 7: down to scouting because you looked at, specifically, whenever Dan
Speaker 7: Quinn was in down as to fit'sive coordinator, he loved
Speaker 7: the versatile defenders. He wanted the guys that can play
Speaker 7: multiple positions. I feel like that kind of trickled down
Speaker 7: with the entire McCarthy staff as well. That's been a
Speaker 7: Will McClay thing since the very beginning, since way before
Speaker 7: McCarthy even got involved. So how much do they emphasize
Speaker 7: versatility with guys? They love guys that can be placed
Speaker 7: in multiple different positions. You look on the offensive line specifically,
Speaker 7: you look at a guy like Cooper b b last
Speaker 7: year coming in as a guard, they move him to
Speaker 7: center it works out. You look at brock Hoffman whenever
Speaker 7: there's injuries up front, he can start at center, he
Speaker 7: can start at right guard, having that flexibility. Tyler Smith
Speaker 7: started a game at left tackle last year. So I
Speaker 7: think hunting out these opportunities for guys that are versatile,
Speaker 7: it's a positive, But I also think there is a
Speaker 7: negative side of it too, because you also need the
Speaker 7: guys the same token that can be honed in on
Speaker 7: one spot and really master that craft.
Speaker 9: And I feel like the Cowboys do have those spots.
Speaker 7: But I also feel like maybe there is a there's
Speaker 7: a bag of you know, mixed traits with certain guys,
Speaker 7: and I feel like if they could just you know,
Speaker 7: hone in. Let me think off the top of my head,
Speaker 7: you know, find a find a you know, just a
Speaker 7: downhill running back. He doesn't need to have any receiving
Speaker 7: receiving NAXX, you know. I feel like you can find
Speaker 7: a receiving back in this draft. If you wanted to
Speaker 7: just find that downhill guy that can get you those
Speaker 7: red zone opportunities, get you those short yardage opportunities. You
Speaker 7: can look at just a pure edge rusher, you know,
Speaker 7: just to help seal the edge, you know, to pair
Speaker 7: with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 9: Granted versatility is fantastic.
Speaker 7: You look at a guy like Marcus Bow, he could
Speaker 7: certainly help in this this offensive line room.
Speaker 8: I appreciate versatility, especially on the offensive line, because I'm
Speaker 8: from the line of thinking that you know, regardless of
Speaker 8: what you've got in your personnel room, you want to
Speaker 8: put the five best offensive linemen that you can out
Speaker 8: there on the field, and you got to figure figure
Speaker 8: out a way to get your five best guys out there.
Speaker 8: You can't have one of your best five offensive line
Speaker 8: then sitting on the bench and waiting to come in
Speaker 8: and fill in and support. So if the Cowboys think
Speaker 8: that Marcus Bow fits that bill, then you got to
Speaker 8: find a spot for him on this offensive line.
Speaker 4: Is it at right guard?
Speaker 8: If Zach Martin doesn't return, is it that tackle if
Speaker 8: either Terrence Steele doesn't returner if Tyler Geyton, you know,
Speaker 8: just doesn't progress or take that next step. So that's
Speaker 8: how I look at the offensive line. But no, that versatility,
Speaker 8: and Nick makes a good point and that sometimes it
Speaker 8: can be negative because if you're moving around too much,
Speaker 8: and we kind of saw it with Tyler Smith when
Speaker 8: he moved a tackle is kind of a little bit
Speaker 8: different than what he's been able to do at guard.
Speaker 8: But the fact that you're able to do that and
Speaker 8: still play at a high level is incredibly valuable.
Speaker 7: Not only not only him, Chauncey Golston. I mean whenever
Speaker 7: he came whenever he came into the league, he was
Speaker 7: an edge guy.
Speaker 9: At Iowa.
Speaker 7: They tried to hone him in on the interior and
Speaker 7: trying to make him that flex piece that can play
Speaker 7: up and down and a round.
Speaker 9: But once injury forced him to just stay at end.
Speaker 9: He was great at just the end, you know.
Speaker 7: And some of these guys, I think maybe versatility can
Speaker 7: get you know, pushed onto them, And I don't think
Speaker 7: that's a Cowboys problem. I think that's a leak problem.
Speaker 7: I see it happening around the league with different guys,
Speaker 7: and you know, I think it's versatility can be a
Speaker 7: great thing, but it can also be a detrimental thing
Speaker 7: with the wrong guy.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up the Schottenheim or higher because
Speaker 3: of course, this is kind of a an off ball
Speaker 3: episode here in Mobil, a little bit different than what
Speaker 3: we've done in the past, and so it is the
Speaker 3: first episode that we've had at the draft show with
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer as the new head coach here in Dallas.
Speaker 4: So you mentioned how it could change from a scouting standpoint.
Speaker 4: We're gonna learn a lot about that, I think this week.
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer did not make the trip and nor will he
Speaker 3: to Mobile, but the rest of the front office is
Speaker 3: here and the scouting department is here. We're gonna get
Speaker 3: a lot of conversations as to what those early conversations
Speaker 3: have been about building this draft board and building the
Speaker 3: priorities that they're going to look at throughout the offseason.
Speaker 3: But one thing I want to mention is, of course,
Speaker 3: the first draft that Mike McCarthy ran as an offensive
Speaker 3: minded head coach. Brian Schottenheimer is an offensive minded head coach.
Speaker 3: You ended up with Ceedee Lamb in that first pick
Speaker 3: at seventeen. Even if you could have used that selection early,
Speaker 3: that was kind of a blinking light best player available,
Speaker 3: they ended up taking him, and that's how it happens.
Speaker 3: Is there any shift in your thinking with Shottenheim or
Speaker 3: as the man in Dallas, whether or not the Cowboys
Speaker 3: will lean offense or defense at pick number twelve.
Speaker 7: I think that's a fantastic point, especially appealing back to
Speaker 7: twenty twenty and McCarthy getting ceedee Lamb. Granted he fell
Speaker 7: to them, but a different yeah, remind me who it
Speaker 7: probably would have been.
Speaker 9: That's okay, yay from LSU that worked out.
Speaker 7: I think I think you're certainly onto something there because
Speaker 7: you look at the running back position. Obviously Ashton GenZ
Speaker 7: we're going to talk about ad nauseum. It's just a
Speaker 7: matter if he gets to twelve, I think. And I
Speaker 7: keep flipping my thinking on this, because like, some days
Speaker 7: he catched me and I'm like, yeah, I'd take him
Speaker 7: at twelve.
Speaker 9: In other days, I'm like, no, the class.
Speaker 4: Is too good.
Speaker 7: I wonder what the scouting department thinks about that, And
Speaker 7: I think that's probably something the whole closer to their
Speaker 7: rest up until draft day.
Speaker 9: But I think going and.
Speaker 7: Getting multiple offensive weapons in this draft, whether it be
Speaker 7: a Harold Fan and I'm seeing it right here on here, Tommy,
Speaker 7: or a Mecca Buka, whether it be late in the
Speaker 7: first if they decided to trade back, or you know,
Speaker 7: a Trey Harris in the second or third around. Jayden
Speaker 7: Higgins is a wide receiver here from Iowa State. There's
Speaker 7: some offensive weapons that he could add to this team.
Speaker 7: I think if he's looking at the offensive side of
Speaker 7: the ball, he has to be maximizing that going into
Speaker 7: this draft process.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree.
Speaker 8: And you know, really, when it comes to that first
Speaker 8: round selection, I think you go best player available, just
Speaker 8: because I think every position you've got on your roster
Speaker 8: right now, maybe except for quarterback, would I would accept
Speaker 8: or expect a first round selection from because I think
Speaker 8: that this team just needs to get right personnel wise,
Speaker 8: whether that be running back, whether it be wide receiver,
Speaker 8: defensive line, whatever it may be. But no, I agree
Speaker 8: with Nick. I think that this offense needs to be
Speaker 8: built around what Brian Schottenheimer wants to do. And when
Speaker 8: you think about that, it's running the football. And he
Speaker 8: was talking about some of the things yesterday, getting the
Speaker 8: play action game, going motion shifts. Who are some guys
Speaker 8: that fit that bill And so you've got to this
Speaker 8: guy in department has got to dive into that. They
Speaker 8: know who their head coach is now, they know what
Speaker 8: this scheme is going to look like, they know what
Speaker 8: Brian Schottenheimer's gonna want, or if they don't know now,
Speaker 8: they should know here pretty soon so they can go
Speaker 8: and get those guys for Shottenheimer and kind of round
Speaker 8: out this offense.
Speaker 3: Anybody here you mentioned Higgins from Iowa State, Anybody here
Speaker 3: that you've had your eye on that could maybe fit
Speaker 3: that bill across the board.
Speaker 4: I know Allie Gordon's an interesting one.
Speaker 3: Because we've brought him up, We've had that conversation on
Speaker 3: the Draft Show previously, had the conversation with him today,
Speaker 3: did a great job on the interview and we'll take
Speaker 3: some bits and pieces from that.
Speaker 4: That could be an interesting later.
Speaker 3: Option if you want to try and stretch it past
Speaker 3: the third round or maybe third round, fourth round, fifth round,
Speaker 3: if you can somehow get back into the fourth and
Speaker 3: package some picks together.
Speaker 4: But overall, anybody kind of stand out amongst.
Speaker 3: The group of Reese's Senior Bowl guys that you can
Speaker 3: keep an eye on.
Speaker 8: Well, if you're looking at the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 8: I think at the running back position, like I mentioned,
Speaker 8: Alie Gordon is the guy to keep an eye on
Speaker 8: if they're looking for a receiving back out of the back, though,
Speaker 8: I think Devin Neil from Kansas is one of the
Speaker 8: better receiving backs in this class. And then if you
Speaker 8: look at the wide receivers, this is a really good group.
Speaker 8: I think you mentioned Nick earlier from Iowa State. Jaden Higgins,
Speaker 8: the big X guy, that's something that I think this
Speaker 8: offense really needs. We talked about it with Trey Harris.
Speaker 8: I brought us and I went back and forth on
Speaker 8: Trey Harris. We really like him, and so I think
Speaker 8: that would be a good option. And you know, Jaden
Speaker 8: Higgins is another guy to watch for there. Jack Besh
Speaker 8: from TCU a good option at wide receiver. Then this
Speaker 8: defensive line class, especially here in Mobile, I mean just fantastic.
Speaker 8: Dion Walker measured in it like six seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, fifty Wow.
Speaker 4: It's just a big, big, big human being. Walter Nolan.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure if he's going to participate or not,
Speaker 8: but he measured in pretty well too. I'm a big
Speaker 8: fan of his. And then some other good options Omar Norman,
Speaker 8: Lott Nicks guy and I S. Peebles from Virginia Tech,
Speaker 8: Alfred Collins from Texas. So some really good intriguing options
Speaker 8: to watch here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, looking at this running back position, I think there's
Speaker 7: multiple guys to take a look at going into this week. Obviously,
Speaker 7: we've talked about this class so much and how much talent.
Speaker 7: There is top to bottom. There's talent you can get
Speaker 7: on Day three. Some guys that I'm really looking forward
Speaker 7: to seeing RJ. Harvey out of UCF. He came in
Speaker 7: a little bit smaller than I expected you yesterday, but
Speaker 7: I'm still an RJ.
Speaker 9: Harvey backer. I think this is a guy no pun intended.
Speaker 7: I think this is a guy that can really have
Speaker 7: a good week and explode on draft boards. Damian Martinez
Speaker 7: out of Miami. He's a big power back. He's downhill.
Speaker 7: He weighed in I think yesterday two thirty five, if
Speaker 7: my memory is serving me correctly. He is a big
Speaker 7: presence coming out of the backfield from Miami, a transfer
Speaker 7: from Oregon State that had a great career with the Beavers.
Speaker 7: Six okay, okay, Then he's gotten a little lighter because
Speaker 7: he played He played probably a two thirty two thirty
Speaker 7: five at Oregon State, so some weight that he has
Speaker 7: shed in his time at Miami. And then Woody Marks
Speaker 7: from USC I think he's gonna have one of the
Speaker 7: bigger weeks for running backs here. I think this is
Speaker 7: just an environment that benefits him a lot. Talking about
Speaker 7: the tight end position. Thomas Fedon out of Nebraska. This
Speaker 7: is a guy that I'm really watching close this week.
Speaker 7: And then Gunner Helm out of Texas, if he competes.
Speaker 7: Some of these Texas guys are still battling their season
Speaker 7: ending not that long ago, so keeping an eye on that.
Speaker 7: And then the receiver I'm most excited to get my
Speaker 7: eyes on this week. Actually, I'll give you two names
Speaker 7: we've talked about, Saveon Williams and Novach is a big
Speaker 7: supporter of his. I'm really excited to see what he's
Speaker 7: got coming down the pipe this week. And then Xavier
Speaker 7: Rostreppo out of Miami. That is a guy that I
Speaker 7: think has some inside out versatility. I have some questions,
Speaker 7: but I'm very curious to see how they get answered
Speaker 7: this week here in Mobile. I think Rostrepo is a
Speaker 7: potential second round talent that could sneak into the back end.
Speaker 9: Of the first round with a good week here.
Speaker 3: The only concern I have of trying to get a
Speaker 3: true read on this running back class and the talent here.
Speaker 4: Is in these practices. It's no secret running back is.
Speaker 3: A tough a tough evaluation because they're not getting hit,
Speaker 3: they're not actually running through legitimate holes. A lot of
Speaker 3: the time, it's just thud up and then keep going
Speaker 3: and you're gonna run through tackles. You got to see
Speaker 3: the lateral ability, the burst, the handoff, all the different
Speaker 3: elements there to it.
Speaker 4: But one of my favorite.
Speaker 3: Parts about this week are the one on ones outside.
Speaker 3: Why does your versus corner inside? You've got the offensive
Speaker 3: line versus the defensive line, and really the different evaluations
Speaker 3: you can do. There two edge rushers I want to
Speaker 3: look at. Of course, one of them is probably gonna
Speaker 3: be out of the mix for Dallas anyways, unless they
Speaker 3: want to talk about it at twelve, because I.
Speaker 4: Don't think he gets the forty four.
Speaker 3: But Princely Umami Ellen from Ole, miss I think is
Speaker 3: somebody you can keep an eye on.
Speaker 9: And then you get to forty four you think so,
Speaker 9: I think, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, I'm here to manifest it.
Speaker 3: But Landon Jackson from Arkansas as well. I think he's
Speaker 3: a big body, somebody that nobody's really talking about right now.
Speaker 3: I've had a chance to watch some of his film
Speaker 3: this past week, and he's a disruptor man, good setting
Speaker 3: the edge, good and run defense as well, long long
Speaker 3: arms and able to use that link to his advantage.
Speaker 4: So I think keep an eye on those two guys.
Speaker 3: Of course, we talked about Mike Green and we had
Speaker 3: the great conversation with him earlier in the show.
Speaker 4: Excited to see what he can.
Speaker 3: Bring as the ATBs leader in sacks and tackles for
Speaker 3: loss this past year.
Speaker 7: One extra edge rusher, I want to throw in Donovan
Speaker 7: azer Riaku from Boston College uh Sole production one his
Speaker 7: past season.
Speaker 9: I definitely butchered it too. I think I think he's
Speaker 9: got a fun week ahead of him.
Speaker 7: I'm curious to see how he matches up with some
Speaker 7: of these elite tackles that are here in Mobile. That's
Speaker 7: a guy that I'm keeping a close eye on because
Speaker 7: you look at the flash in the pan like one
Speaker 7: year explosion guys, you see you see donovanzer Riaku, and
Speaker 7: I think that's a That's a guy I think who
Speaker 7: could benefit by consistency here and Mobile and then a
Speaker 7: good combine as well.
Speaker 3: Of course, practices begin today at Hancock Whitney Stadium on
Speaker 3: the campus of University of South Alabama. Excited for this
Speaker 3: entire week. We'll be back here on Radio Row in
Speaker 3: the middle of the week. If you have names of
Speaker 3: prospects that are here at the Senior Bowl that you
Speaker 3: want to hear from, tweet at us.
Speaker 4: Of course, Nick Harris, what's your.
Speaker 9: Handle on Nick Harris f WST.
Speaker 4: It changed, it was used to be Nick Harris DC.
Speaker 3: And then you've got You've got Tommy Underscore Yards, got
Speaker 3: that one down, and then mine's Kyle Underscore Yeomans. But
Speaker 3: tweet at us if you haven't already, give us some
Speaker 3: names that you might want to talk to you throughout
Speaker 3: the week.
Speaker 4: We'll do our best to request it.
Speaker 3: With the Senior Bowl staff that's done a great job
Speaker 3: of loading us up with great prospects and different conversations
Speaker 3: along the way.
Speaker 4: Practices begin today.
Speaker 3: We'll have some extra coverage on Dallas Cowboys dot com,
Speaker 3: whether it's Tommy and I on the.
Speaker 4: Video side or written.
Speaker 3: And then you can of course hear from Nick Harris
Speaker 3: on four Arth Star Telegram as well. Lots of coverage
Speaker 3: still to come here from the twenty twenty five Reese's
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama for Scott Purcell and Chris
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Speaker 3: for Tommy Yarish, Nick Harris and Kyle Yeomens. We'll see
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