1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 4: For John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annick and 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 4: Kenny Florian. 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: I fucking love him. 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: Next time job there, Krytufian prefers. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 5: A couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists. 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian. 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 6: Well quarantine did my master bedroom away from my children? 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 6: There is no one I would rather capture to spend 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 6: sixty minutes on video and audio with me than my 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 6: man Ken Flow. It's Monday, June eighth, twenty twenty, Episode 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 6: two fifty three of the Anakin Florian podcast, What's Up Kid? 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 7: What's going on? Dude? How was Vegas? 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 6: Vegas was good? I did not frequent any casinos, but 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 6: it was good to be back out there. Of course, 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 6: hotter in hell. You know, I live in Florida, I 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 6: run outside in Florida, but that desert is a different 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 6: beast right now. 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 7: It really is. 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 6: When you parlay the wind with the heat. My lungs 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 6: were not cooperating. But it was really buttoned up, I mean, 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 6: much more restrictive in terms of the hotel than in Jacksonville. 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 6: Everybody had to be mashed all the time or you 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 6: were getting a lashing. You know, you couldn't even go 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 6: in the building without a credential that had a wristband 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 6: that cleared that you had had your temperature screen. So 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 6: we felt pretty taken care of it. Another show is 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 6: in the can. 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 7: How was it for you? 38 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 6: I know you were watching most of the fights on 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 6: Saturday night. 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 7: I was, I was. 41 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: I saw a few of the prelimbs, the whole main 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: card and it was good man, it was good to 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: hear you again. 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate that we have a lot to get 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 6: to today. Later in the show, we will have some 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 6: thoughts from ken Flow. We'll see if he thinks this 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 6: one is going to stick her not Connor McGregor's third 48 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 6: retirement in the last four years, so on the way out, 49 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 6: we will be sure to get some thoughts from Kenny 50 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 6: on that. But in the nature of not burying the lead, 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 6: let us start with the Lioness, Amanda Nenz. I just 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 6: flew back with her from Miami, so I oftentimes travel 53 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 6: with Nina and Amanda because we live down here in 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 6: South Florida. So really interesting to hear her thoughts after 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 6: the fact, Ken Flow, I guess I'll start with the 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 6: fact that the last thing she or the American top 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 6: team Dan Lambert Mike Brown would ever do is take 58 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 6: an opponent lightly. Their focus Saturday night, or at least 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 6: her focus was to go twenty five minutes, right, Not 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 6: that she wouldn't have knocked her out if there was 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 6: an obvious opportunity, but she really wanted to prove that 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: she could go twenty five minutes at one hundred and 63 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 6: forty pounds, where she feels better than bantamweight. I think 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 6: her bandamweight days are over, and if this is the 65 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 6: beginning of several title defenses at featherweight, I think she 66 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 6: fought a near perfect fight. 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 7: Well it was smart. 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you've seen Spencer fight before you knew 69 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: she was gonna hang in there for as long as possible, 70 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: once again showing her toughness. But as far as skill, 71 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately for Spencer and frankly everyone in that division, 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: they're just not gonna be able to keep up with 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: someone like Amanda Nunez. I mean, there is no female 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: who can throw a punch like Amanda Neunz period. I 75 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: mean when it comes to you know, maybe hitting a 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: bag or whatever, but as far as a fight, a 77 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: professional fight, when it comes down to it, if you 78 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: need to hit another female in the face, Amanda new 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: Nez just does it better than any other female out there. 80 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: It's really impressive the kind of power and speed that 81 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: she's able to put together, her timing, and you know, 82 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: I really thought there was such a disparity and skill 83 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: by you know, the fourth round, that they probably should 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: have stopped the fight. Nonez really put just a lot 85 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: of combinations on Spencer. She again just hung in there. 86 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: She was tough as nails. But I don't know, I 87 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: think Amanda Noons just showed that she's just at another level. 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Yet again, I don't think there's anyone out there that 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: really can challenge her. I know, you really shouldn't say that. 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: You don't want to get that into the head of 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: a fighter. And obviously att did a great job of 92 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: keeping her focus for this one. But man, Nonez is 93 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: very good. 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 6: And from a legacy standpoint, and look what Henry Sahudo 95 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 6: did and then he chose to walk away, and of 96 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 6: course there are a lot of Bandamway killers waiting for him. 97 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 6: That is not Amana Nonez's reality. And there really is 98 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 6: nothing for her left to accomplish. From a mixed martial 99 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 6: arts She's won eleven consecutive fights. She has won eight 100 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 6: consecutive UFC Championship fights in any number of different ways. 101 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 6: If you talk about Ronda Rousey and Misha Tate and 102 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 6: Holly Holm and Chris Cyborg, none of them lasted more 103 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 6: than a round. Yeah, Pennington and Spencer and some of 104 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 6: these others have extended her for lack of a better 105 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 6: way to put it, but she is the goat. There 106 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 6: is not a distant second with respect to the great 107 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 6: Valentina Chevchenko. And we could dissect this performance. I mean, 108 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 6: I'll tell you from a judging standpoint, the way the 109 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 6: scoring rules are written right now to encourage more liberal 110 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: use of ten eights where you don't have to largely 111 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 6: dominate around. 112 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 7: Go read the rules. 113 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 6: There was at least two ten eights for me, if 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 6: not three, there at least based on the language Kenny 115 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 6: of the new scoring. So it was fifty to forty 116 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 6: five and then fifty to forty four times too. I 117 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 6: had fans coming at me saying, if you really read 118 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 6: the rules, they scored at fifty to forty, they had 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 6: five ten eights, and I, you know, I mean again, 120 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 6: I encourage people to read the scoring. But she was 121 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 6: as dominant as ever. I'd probably had it fifty to 122 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 6: forty three. You know, there's no doubt about it. 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Again, Nunez just looked like she was just in a 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: complete different level than Spencer. And you know, again Spencer's 125 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: toughness is impressive, but again there's just a huge skill 126 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: despair in that whole division period. 127 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 7: She has, you know, really run out of opponents at 128 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 7: this point. 129 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anyone out there that's going 130 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: to make things interesting, and I think that's her biggest 131 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: challenge at this point, is not only staying motivated for 132 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: these other fighters, but. 133 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 7: Just getting an opponent who's willing to get in there 134 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 7: with her. 135 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 6: Megan Anderson has won two in a row, She's won 136 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 6: three of four. I know there isn't a healthy appetite 137 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 6: for that fight, but she is six feet tall, and 138 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 6: I do think it's an interesting matchup just because of 139 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: that size. So I do think if she defends the 140 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 6: featherweight title first quarter of twenty twenty one most likely. 141 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 6: I think if Megan Anderson can get another win or 142 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 6: get another fight ideally right, that could produce a win, 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 6: she could be next in theory. But I think Amanda 144 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 6: is ready to go home and nest with her wife, 145 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 6: Nina Nunez, and become mothers and maybe take the rest 146 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 6: of the year off. I know Nina would like to 147 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 6: return to fight in February up a division at flyweight, 148 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 6: so maybe Amanda would help her and then not even 149 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 6: come back until April. Amanda was on crutches in a wheelchair, right, 150 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 6: I mean, she is banged up in that lower half. 151 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 6: And again, you don't win eight championship fights, Kenny, and 152 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 6: go through eight championship training camps without paying some sort 153 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 6: of price. You know, she looked like a prime Amanda Nunez. 154 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 6: But it's not like she can win eight more title 155 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 6: fights without absorbing a whole lot of damage along the way. 156 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: She has proven herself already as an elite mixed martial artist. 157 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: She has proven herself to be the greatest of all 158 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: time when it comes to, you know, the women's divisions. 159 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't see anyone breaking her record or doing what 160 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: she has done for a very very long time. So 161 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: Nuna's has separated herself from all the other great female fighters, 162 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and she certainly deserves that time off and again for 163 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: her she's already made a lot of money at this point. 164 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: You know, Nina obviously still interested in fighting, and she 165 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: can do you know, some impressive things in her division 166 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: as well, but with a child coming up and all 167 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: those things, you gotta believe that she's probably gonna take 168 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: a long time off. 169 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 6: I do think she would enjoy maybe a high profile 170 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 6: boxing match that could see her realize a big payday. 171 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 6: Would be something she'd have an appetite for, and she'd 172 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 6: be probably an underdog in that setting, which I think 173 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 6: would be an interesting challenge for her because at least 174 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 6: right now in MMA, I mean Ian Parker said last 175 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 6: week that a man it should have been minus eleven 176 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 6: hundred and he was exactly right. So we congratulate Amanda 177 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 6: Nunez and we'll see what is next. We of course 178 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 6: acknowledged the toughness of Felicia Spencer, but she was outmatched. 179 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 6: And I know my man TJ. DeSantis would have been 180 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 6: very surprised years ago to have seen Felicia Spencer rise 181 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 6: to a UFC title fight this quickly, having followed her 182 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 6: on the Invicta FC circuits. So we congratulate her effort 183 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 6: and defeat, and I do think she'll work her way back. 184 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 6: And what is obviously a division so thin that there 185 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 6: aren't even rankings at UFC dot com all right, comin 186 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 6: event was Cody Garbrand and hafae elis Sunsaw. Even if 187 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 6: it wasn't the biggest bandam weight fight of the night, 188 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 6: Ray Long is going to be waiting in the wings here, 189 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 6: so we'll table algo for a second, even though otherwise 190 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 6: I would go to him here, Cody fucking Garbrand with 191 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 6: a knockout that is going to be on highlight reels 192 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: for years to come, and say what you want about it, 193 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 6: and Sean O'Malley and others will in terms of the 194 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 6: technique or lack thereof You know, some people will suggest 195 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 6: that he grabbed the fence and there was something illegal 196 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 6: about the strike. You know, when Anthony Showtime Pettis pushed 197 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 6: his foot off of the fence, can flow right, as 198 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 6: long as you're not interlocking the toes. There's nothing illegal 199 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 6: about that as far as I know. Cody, yeah, I 200 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 6: guess did interlock a finger for a second, almost as 201 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 6: if he was like springing off the cage. I don't 202 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 6: see anything illegal about it. Asuansau was disappointed that he 203 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 6: let his guard down a little bit, but that was 204 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 6: a ferocious, ferocious knockout, one of the most deadly I've 205 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 6: ever seen CAESA And in that instance. 206 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 7: People need to use, you know, common sense. 207 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: What exactly was he gaining as an advantage by grabbing 208 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: the fence. There was no take tech, there was no 209 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: you know, grappling going up anyway. I just think it's 210 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of ridiculous. But anyways, h Cody doesn't need a 211 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of help when it comes to the speed and 212 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: power department ro He can produce that very well on 213 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: his own. 214 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 7: I think you kind of nailed it. 215 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: And this is not to take away from Cody because 216 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: technically he's so good when he's making you miss. But 217 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: the thing that stands out very clearly when you watch 218 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Cody Garbrandt fight is that he is a different kind 219 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: of athlete. 220 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 7: He really is. 221 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: The way that he moves and his ability to read 222 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: punches when he's trying to make you miss, right when 223 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: he gets emotionally he stands in the pocket. You're always 224 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: throwing the dice, and we see so many mixed martial 225 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: arts go and do that and be like I just 226 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: want to I want to brawl, I want to get 227 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: in there. Okay, well you might get knocked down in 228 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: that process as well. Cody Garbrandt needs to go back 229 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: and be that dude that he showed when he fought 230 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: Dominic Cruise. Maybe the best performance I've ever seen out 231 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: of any UFC fighter. 232 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, and he just looked phenomenal out there. 233 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: When he's out there, he's utilizing his footwork, he's analyzing, 234 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: not just diving headfirst into exchange. 235 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 7: That's when he really is at his yes. 236 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: And I hope this is a different change because if 237 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: it is, Cody Garbrandt will get that title back. 238 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 6: I absolutely guarantee you, no matter who he faces. You 239 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 6: called him a different kind of athlete. And those are 240 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 6: some seriously true words. And that's the rub, and I'm 241 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 6: glad that you led with it. That's the rub. When 242 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 6: it comes to Cody, No love Garbrant. Athletically, he is 243 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 6: on a different level than most a guy who if 244 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 6: he had different dimensions, maybe if he was as big 245 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 6: as his brother Zach, would have been a professional athlete 246 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 6: in a different sport. This kid played middle linebacker, the 247 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 6: premium position in the state of Ohio. At one hundred 248 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 6: and thirty five pounds. You know that shit doesn't happen 249 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 6: by accident. And as far as this Mark Henry relationship 250 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 6: is concerned, and by the way, Joe Rogan and Daniel Cormier, 251 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 6: at separate times on the broadcast both referred to Mark 252 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 6: Henry as a genius. Okay, their words, not mine, But 253 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 6: obviously we put him on a pedestal when it comes 254 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: to striking coaches, and rightfully so. He's turned away a 255 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: lot of elite athletes. This wasn't a by product Kenny 256 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 6: of Mark Ken of Cody reaching out to Mark. Mark 257 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 6: Henry like recruited Cody over the years because he saw 258 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 6: this athlete and saw this speed and felt like if 259 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 6: he could work with this guy, it could be truly 260 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 6: something special. Now I'm not saying garbrand I'm not the 261 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 6: technical guy. I'm not saying he's totally out of the woods, 262 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 6: that this is Garbrandt version two point zero necessarily, but 263 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 6: there was a lot of good in this performance and 264 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 6: he was able to punctuate it with a knockout that 265 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 6: is certainly going to hold up as one of the 266 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 6: better ones. 267 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 4: It was. 268 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: And again, you know, this isn't a Cody that couldn't 269 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: have done this on his own. No disrespect to Mark Henry. 270 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I think what Mark Henry has brought to the table 271 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: is discipline and the fact that he gets to utilize 272 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: his footwork. Again, Hey, you use your footwork, man, That's 273 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: what makes you special, That's what separates you. There's one 274 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: thing that allows you to hide in the octagon and disappear, 275 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: and it's footwork. And there's just no one in the 276 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: game who really, in my opinion, truly understands that and 277 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: gets fighters to really realize that. Everyone just thinks like, 278 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: there's the target, I'm gonna walk forward and just try 279 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: to hit it. 280 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 7: That's how most. 281 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: Professional mixed Marshalls artists approach the game and Cody Garbran 282 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: again is kind of brought back into that reality of 283 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: utilizing your footwork, and Mark Henry is probably responsible for that. 284 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I think keeping them disciplined, keeping those footwork patterns and 285 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: not getting them into just doing the same thing I 286 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: think is going to be important for Cody moving forward. 287 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: But either way, man, it was great to see Cody 288 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: get close to fulfilling his potential. That's how good I 289 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: think he is. I still think there's so much more 290 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: for Cody to show. The dude's is stunt and it 291 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: was great to see it back. The UFC needs someone 292 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: like Cody, Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. 293 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: I mean, he could sell tickets in Ohio and Pennsylvania 294 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 6: and Los Angeles and obviously has a style that can 295 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 6: produce a knockout like that. And can I just be 296 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 6: a fan for a second, Like, dude, I mean that 297 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 6: fucking knockout right, Like just sitting there and seeing a 298 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 6: man separate a really durable man like that from consciousness. 299 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 6: I mean, bro, it's one. 300 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 7: Hundred and thirty five pounds. Where do you he a 301 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 7: dude be able to put a guy to sleep like that? Again? 302 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: And we'll talking about Sean O'Malley and all that stuff, 303 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: But it's just rare. It's a rare quality to actually 304 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: have that kind of power. Because even in Sean O'Malley's knockout, 305 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: which was absolutely brilliant, he had hurt him twice. He 306 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: had hurt Wineland twice to the body before that, so 307 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: he was already kind of out and you know, had 308 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: been hurt to the head before that as well. But 309 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: one punch knockout power, like Cody Garbrands, Yeah, you just 310 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: don't see it. One hundred and thirty five pounds. He 311 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: bowed out of the way, timed it perfectly, came upstairs, 312 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: threw that punched from hell, and my goodness again, a 313 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: suns out. He's been knocked out what once? Maybe I 314 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: think it was the guy from Duke Ruvers's Why can't 315 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I think of it the southpaw there from Duke Ruvers's camp. Anyway, 316 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: Eric Eric Coke exactly. That was the only time you've 317 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: ever seen him knocked out, and he's fought a lot 318 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: of high level guys and that was kind of earlier 319 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: in his career, I guess you could say, but you 320 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: don't see a guy like sunts Out knocked out cold 321 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: like that too often. It's happened once in his career, 322 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and Garbrent's just again a special fighter. 323 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 6: Let's talk about Sugar Shan O'Malley for a second, because 324 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 6: obviously his head coach, Tim Welch, has a lot to 325 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 6: prove before he's in a conversation maybe with a Trevor 326 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 6: Whitman type. But I have said on our airwaves in 327 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 6: the past, I really believe in this one two punch 328 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 6: with Tim Welch and Sugar Shan O'Malley Tankeino Mendez, you 329 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 6: can't do much better than that in terms of your 330 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 6: primary jiu jitsu player that you're trading with day in 331 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 6: and day out. I believe they're doing the right things 332 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 6: from a strength and conditioning standpoint. I said on our 333 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 6: airwaves last week, if I could buy stock at any 334 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 6: young fighter, O'Malley would be the guy. I don't think 335 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 6: that people realize how good he is, whether they're focused 336 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 6: on the marijuana or him saying things like he's the 337 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 6: best striker in MMA right now. But there's more truth 338 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 6: to that line than people want to realize. And because 339 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 6: you're the expert, I would always defer to you, but 340 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 6: I see a very special bandam weight. I see a 341 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 6: future contender, if not world champion, every time I watch 342 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 6: him now, and I do believe he's ready to take 343 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 6: his shots at this division's elite right now. 344 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 7: It's a couple things, right. 345 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: I will say that O'Malley continues to improve and impress 346 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: in my opinion. I also say I understand he doesn't 347 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: have a manager right now or hasn't had a manager 348 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: for a little bit, but whoever is making those decisions 349 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: of deciding who he's going to fight and when he's 350 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: going to fight them deserves a lot of credit as 351 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: well because it's him. Okay, well, he's a smart guy, 352 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: and he knows exactly what he's doing. He's picking the 353 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: right fights for where his skill levels at, where his 354 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: experience is at, and that's just going to give him 355 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: that much more momentum, that much more confidence, and that 356 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: much more playing time to figure out exactly what he 357 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: can and can't do in a mixed martial arts bout. 358 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 7: And you're seeing improvement. 359 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I thought the way that he was moving the relaxation 360 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: to me is also impressive of how composed he is. 361 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 7: He's not a guy who's soon pretense. He's relaxed when 362 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 7: he punches. 363 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: I thought his feints looked really sharp and what separates 364 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: him to get a little bit nerdy here on his striking. 365 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: It's one thing to faint, it's another thing to faint 366 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: and be in a punching position to take advantage of it. 367 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 7: That's why Wineland was so hesitant in coming forward. 368 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Those fates were really scary to him because O'Malley was 369 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: fainting him and then ready to strike if need be. 370 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: And when he did, he made it work for him 371 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: and made Wyland pay for coming in Wyland. Yes, he 372 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: has been dropping his hands, He's been doing it for years, 373 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: but very few have been able to truly take advantage 374 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: of it and not get hit like Sean O'Malley. 375 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 7: So just lovely stuff there from Sean O'Malley. 376 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 6: And if you want to listen back to the Anak 377 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 6: and Florian podcast archives, he was our featured guest back 378 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 6: on for twenty I believe it was the twentieth of 379 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 6: opera if I'm not mistaken there. But if you go 380 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 6: to O'Malley's YouTube channel, he did a video on Sunday 381 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 6: morning and he was going to stay in Las Vegas, 382 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 6: which was not the end, she'll plan to talk to 383 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 6: the UFC brass So maybe there will be another quick 384 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 6: turn for O'Malley, who already has two wins here in 385 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 6: twenty twenty. And don't lose sight of the fact that 386 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 6: he had two years off and developmentally obviously took advantage 387 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: of that time. And I do believe we'll see if 388 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 6: he gets a new contract, and that's why he's in Vegas. 389 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 6: I don't know, but I think as long as he 390 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: is being paid the right money, he's gonna you know, 391 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 6: he's gonna command a top fifteen opponent next and watch one. 392 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 7: So I think, so listen, you look at a striking 393 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 7: you look at his reach. 394 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: That's always going to be a problem, I think moving forward, 395 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he knows this, Sean just needs to 396 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: continue to work on his wrestling and on his grappling. 397 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: So when he gets to that elite fifteen you know 398 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: those guys who are really kind of trying to take 399 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: them down and make them pay. 400 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 7: There he's ready. 401 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: And if he's able to do that and he's doing 402 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: the work, he's gonna be a tough guy to beat man. 403 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 6: And again you see him on the Quintet Ultra circuit too. 404 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 6: I mean a kid loves to grapple, you know, that's 405 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 6: a thing. 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Time to 434 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 6: get smooth, all right now to look back at al 435 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 6: Jaminn Sterling's title shot earning win over Corey Sandhagan last weekend. 436 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 6: Prepare yourselves for the Ray Longo met Now time for the. 437 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 4: Ray Longo Minute. 438 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 6: I'm gonna punch a hole in this fucking chuck stop. 439 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: That's what I want with the Ray Longo Minute during 440 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 4: Ray Longo the John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. 441 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 6: Well, this is the two hundred and fifty third time 442 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 6: in the last five years that we have done a 443 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 6: Ray Longo minute, but there is nothing like doing the 444 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 6: Ray Longo minute after one of his big three Chris Wiman, 445 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 6: Ally quinter Aljaman Sterling comes up with a win and 446 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 6: a finish and man that ally A Quinta led Cord 447 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 6: did a good job Saturday night, Oh. 448 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 8: Without a doubt. Man. Look, And I think that's the 449 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 8: UH for me. That's the beautiful thing is that I 450 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 8: think the culture of this gym is like a family. 451 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 8: And those guys in the corner that was Dennis Bezuoka 452 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 8: and Steve Lee and al Al's always the third guy 453 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 8: in the corner. He stepped up. They did a great 454 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 8: job with this kid. Not only a win, but a 455 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 8: fucking statement. I mean that's the UH that that's the 456 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 8: key to me is the uh just became out aggressive. 457 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 8: He got what he wanted. Soon as listen, al Jo 458 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 8: on your back. I don't give a fuck if you're 459 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 8: won thirty five five once, whatever it is, you don't 460 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 8: want that guy on your back. And I see that, 461 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 8: you know even inspiring. Man, I mean he's he's a handful. 462 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 8: I don't care what you wait is you can't let 463 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 8: that guy on your back. And I think he showed 464 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 8: it the other day and but he did kind of 465 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 8: know that. You know, Stateman is I mean not to 466 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 8: say sorry about that. We get to him at a minute. 467 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 8: Corey Santagan is, uh, you know he was too comfortable 468 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 8: on the floor. I think uh Lineker or maybe a 469 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 8: Sonster had his neck. He looked like it you cannot 470 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 8: do that with al jo That was the difference that 471 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 8: I think it was gonna get to the floor that fast. 472 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 8: Not really, but I did. That was a scenario for 473 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 8: sure in my head. And the uh I think when 474 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 8: we found out the octagon, how small it was and 475 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 8: even compared to what we have in the gym, At 476 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 8: first I thought it wasn't gonna be an advantage, but 477 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 8: it ended up being an advantage. And you know, San Haagen, 478 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 8: what we were worried about was the pace coming forward. 479 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 8: But you know what a lot of those guys that 480 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 8: can walk forward, they just don't. They look like a 481 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 8: different fight of going backwards. And I think that's what 482 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 8: you saw. And again al Joe on the floor was 483 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 8: where his strength was. No, I don't care what weight y'all. 484 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 8: I mean, he's really he's that good. 485 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 7: His mma jiu. 486 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 8: Jitsu is is phenomenal, probably if not the best up 487 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 8: there with anybody. 488 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, Kenny, we're obviously going to celebrate the shit out 489 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 6: of this win from an algamain sterling perspective, but I 490 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 6: do want to get your thoughts on Corey Sandhagen, and 491 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: also we might as well inject the octagon size into 492 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 6: the conversation here, because the measurables are unbelievable. It is 493 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 6: thirty point five percent smaller, Kenny, seven hundred and forty 494 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 6: five square feet versus five hundred and eighteen square feet. 495 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 6: I know you've competed in both. Feels like a different 496 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: sport for me. Your thoughts on this quick fight and 497 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: how the cage might have impacted the matchup. 498 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's always going to favor the grappler in 499 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: my opinion, having that smaller octagon first of all, just 500 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: brilliant on the part of al Jo and his team 501 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: to turn it into a grappling match right from the 502 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: get go. He had a beautiful shot put him up 503 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: against the cage and just kind of that little throw 504 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: by that he did. Sanhagan was in trouble once he 505 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: had the back. This did not look good. And even 506 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: as far as you know, Aljoe really with the control. 507 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: It was just unbelievable. These are two elite guys at 508 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five pounds, right, and the fact 509 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: that Aljo was able to get it done this quickly 510 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: was a huge statement. And in a time where sometimes 511 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: you don't know whether the number two guy, the number 512 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: five guy, the number eight guy is going to get 513 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: a title shot. Al Jamaine Sterling just told everyone. 514 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 7: To fuck off. Yeah, he said, now, then this shot 515 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 7: is mine. 516 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: Seriously, And I thought it was going to be a 517 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: really close fight, you know, Ray, I actually picked san 518 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: Haagan by a close decision. I thought that he'd be 519 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: able to outpoint him round by round. Al Jo knew 520 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: where he had the strength. Al Jo knew that, hey, listen, 521 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: maybe I could strike with him, right, maybe I can 522 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: steal some rounds here in there, But I know I'm 523 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: going to be the better grappler. And that was the 524 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: smart approach. Al Joe knew he had the strength advantage there. 525 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 7: He knew he was going to be the. 526 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Better grappler if he got on top and just took 527 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: full advantage of it. I was I was blown away 528 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: by a. 529 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I gotta tell you, gotta Remember look at 530 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 8: Alja how he came out and this is even a 531 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 8: surprise to me a little bit, but just a frantic pace. 532 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 8: He's you know, he's quick, he's moving, he's throwing kicks, 533 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 8: you're responding. He almost went for a cutkick, I think, 534 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 8: and they rabbed that leg and that was it. But 535 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 8: he never took a step back. I mean it was 536 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 8: very quick. Look, and this will be a blip on 537 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 8: the radar for san take and that kid can fight. 538 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 8: I was one hundred percent concerned with a lot of 539 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 8: things in this fight. I think that kid is great. 540 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 8: I love his style and he one hundred will be back. 541 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 8: But Al Joe just he sees the moment, man, and 542 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 8: he knew he had to make a statement and he didn't. 543 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 8: These are the things that that excite me in mma, 544 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 8: in any sport, you know what I mean. When you 545 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 8: see this type of behavior come out and look, you 546 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 8: gotta remember Al Joe was on a four or five 547 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 8: fight win street. The fights he lost, you could make 548 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 8: a case for he won. So he's for of the 549 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 8: best of the best. And his losses, with the exception 550 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 8: of the knockout to Marlin, which literally took on his 551 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 8: short notice that was a replacement for whoever he was 552 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 8: supposed to fight. Uh, the good jiu jitsu guy, what's 553 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 8: his name? Ken, He's an older guy, but his jiu 554 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 8: jitsu is good. 555 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 6: Not talking about Johnny Eduardo back No, no. 556 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 8: Wow, man, he just lost to Simone. 557 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 7: Borg No. 558 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 8: Whatever, either way, either way, I mean, the point is 559 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 8: that he I'm sorry, Kenny. The point is that I 560 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 8: can make a case for al Joe. You know, with 561 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 8: the exception of Morasle He's got seven eight wins in 562 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 8: the list, not whatever it is. He he those fights. 563 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 8: The fight with a son Sow I thought he won 564 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 8: was a close fight though, in a fight with ran 565 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 8: Yas to fight Rani yaha. And this is almost what 566 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 8: happened with almost what happened with Ferguson. You go from 567 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 8: a jiu jitsu guy to a fierce striker. Ferguson went 568 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 8: from a fierce wrestler to an unbelievable striker. These are 569 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 8: the things you know, you you should be able to adjust. 570 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 8: But I was not in favor of that fight because 571 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 8: of the timing of it. And uh, you know, but 572 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 8: again to al Jo's credit, man, look what he did. 573 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 8: He that was a pretty bad knockout. He came back 574 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 8: and rated five in a row with the elite of 575 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 8: that division. Phenomenal performance, attitude wise, character wise, everything. It's 576 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 8: just you know, and again, I think the culture of 577 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 8: this gym is so tight. And I said it like 578 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 8: with with the Quarantine, because those guys did a great 579 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 8: job with him, and you know, Al had his garage 580 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 8: and he wouldn't do that for anybody, trust me, he 581 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 8: would not. But Al Joe nobody had fights. Everybody was 582 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 8: dedicated to him. That's one good thing with the Quarantine. 583 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 8: It's not like, well, this guy's got to fight, he's 584 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 8: trained in this day, or he's got to get ready 585 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 8: for his bringing in it, everybody was focused on Al 586 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 8: Joe and he had his He had the same cast 587 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 8: of characters, but even with more focus, and I think 588 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 8: the camaraderie of that whole Dog Pound really just made 589 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 8: him rise to another another level, you know what I mean. 590 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 8: So I just I just loved the way. I just 591 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 8: love his attitude right from the get go. 592 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: Man, in a time where everyone loves to make excuses, 593 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: whether it's a bad decision or whatever it is, Al 594 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: Jamaine Sterling has clearly been working on his game and 595 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: working to get better. 596 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 7: Uh, and it's just it's amazing to see. 597 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Uh. 598 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: And it also shows that he's elite because Sanhagen is 599 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: a terrific fighter. And when you see a guy who 600 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: can take advantage it loves one mistake. It was one 601 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: mistake that san Haagan made and that was it and 602 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: that what that's what shows that Aljamain Sterling can be 603 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: a champion. This sport is it's those guys who have 604 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: that killer instinct, who can capitalize on little things that 605 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna separate you from just everybody else. 606 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, and he really believes in his jiu jitsu skills 607 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 8: more than any other skill set. Yeah, I'm saying he 608 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 8: believes in that jiu jitsu skill set and that's you know, 609 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 8: you heard him say even a Matt Serrah black belt 610 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 8: is different levels. He gets to train with really really 611 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 8: good guys and Kenny, you know you your buddy is 612 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 8: off the charts with jiu jitsu. You just absolutely, Uh 613 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 8: that was Ryan Hall. I mean, that kid is phenomenal 614 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 8: jiu jitsu wise. I'm sure who the hell's touching that guy? 615 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 7: You know what I mean? So you know this, there's 616 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 7: such an advantage man. 617 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, it really is, and Aljo's not at that 618 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 8: like level. Like I think Ruin is a different game. 619 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 8: But al Jo, his squeeze strength is his wrestling combined 620 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 8: with the jiu jitsu is a is a major problem 621 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 8: because even if he doesn't get you down, he could 622 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 8: get you in a position where that's all he needs 623 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 8: is just to get a book in get on your back. 624 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 8: And again, I don't care what weight you are, you 625 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 8: don't want the guy on your back. 626 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, al just got a good feel for that 627 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 6: carotid artery. Man, I'm telling you, yeah, I love it. 628 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 8: I sound like I know what the fake guy the 629 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 8: guy pat then went to sleep. But look, I don't 630 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 8: want to take anything away from Sannagan. That kid, there's 631 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 8: no question in my mind. He bounces right back and 632 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 8: he's going to be a problem. 633 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that win is going to age gracefully. And I 634 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 6: do think this will be a mental hurdle for him. 635 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 6: I mean, thrill versus agony for Corey Sandhagen and everything 636 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 6: that he put into this training camp for this fight, 637 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 6: in this matchup to not even be able to throw 638 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 6: a strike. I didn't landed one strike. It's got to 639 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 6: be pretty debilitating. 640 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, And I'll tell you what, Like, 641 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 8: we had really a good look for al Joe. It 642 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 8: was maybe when we when I asked al ju he 643 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 8: said no, the kid, the kid we used was maybe 644 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 8: like an inch or too big, but wow, he was 645 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 8: ready for the for. 646 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 7: The end up. 647 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 5: Uh. 648 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 8: But again, you have to play to your strengths. I 649 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 8: love what he did. He made that guy go backwards 650 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 8: and he got him against the cage and that was it. Man, 651 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 8: it was just it was short and sweet and really 652 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 8: great to watch. And again just he really earned it. 653 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 7: You know. 654 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 8: And John, you were always a big advocate of Aljoe 655 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 8: from day one, you know what I mean. So that's 656 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 8: off to you too, because I think you always believed 657 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 8: in him. 658 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 6: Maybe more than you at times. Man, I've always thought 659 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 6: he was going to be champion. 660 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 8: You know, a day I used to listen to you 661 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 8: and I just you know me, everything's a progression. I 662 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 8: want to make sure, like even I told out you 663 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 8: after this, I want you to have a good time. 664 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 8: I really do. I want you to have a great time. 665 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 8: But you might be getting the title shot quicker than 666 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 8: you think. You have to stay in shape and it's 667 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 8: going to be a five rounder. You cannot go off 668 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 8: the rails as much as you want to. Right now, 669 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 8: I think there's a good chance Aldo something happens and 670 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 8: he's right in there, so I hope he listens, and 671 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 8: I think he will. But again, we're cad play hard. 672 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 8: You gotta go out. 673 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 7: You gotta deserves it. 674 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, he deserves it. I don't want to take that away, 675 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 8: but you got to keep the big picture in mind. 676 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 8: And you made it this fall. You weren't that shot. 677 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 8: Let's fucking be ready at. 678 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 6: Old talk stopping now, especially now you. 679 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 8: Don't know when the cools have come. Look what they're 680 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 8: doing that recycling fighters every three weeks. Yes, it looks 681 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 8: like you know what I mean. 682 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 6: No, you're right. If you are Brian kellerher or Ray 683 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 6: Borg or Courtney Casey and you have been willing to 684 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 6: make that quick turn, it can be richly rewarding. And 685 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 6: you're right. He could be fighting for the belt in 686 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 6: six weeks, you know, and Logo could find himself on 687 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 6: fight Island. So at least right now, it looks like 688 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: it's gonna be Pyodrjan or Jose Aldo who is next 689 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 6: for Aljo? Right, one of those two guys who will 690 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 6: presumably fight for the Bandwaight title. But Ray like he 691 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 6: took it out of the matchmaker's hands. I mean Aljo 692 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 6: literally took it out of the promotion's hands. Dana White 693 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 6: has now said he's going to be next, even if 694 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 6: he does have to wait six or seven months. Ray, 695 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 6: you can't let him sign about agreement that isn't for 696 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 6: a shot at the undisputed title. I've got to feel 697 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 6: pretty good to hear that. 698 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 8: I agree. I would definitely not. I'm surprised that he said, 699 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 8: even in the end of those strange things. No, Algi, 700 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 8: you're fighting for the oh I know, period, that's it. 701 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 8: You're fighting for the title, and that's it. That's you 702 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 8: earned it and you're fighting for You earned it before 703 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 8: this and you're fighting now. You're definitely fighting for the title. 704 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 8: I might if you're asking me, I'll tell you everybody 705 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 8: who's listening, do not sign that baut agreement list. It's 706 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 8: a title shot. You earned it. It's not even you know, 707 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 8: it's not even. It's not right. It wouldn't be fair. 708 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 8: We know Aldo's a big name, you. 709 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 7: Know what I mean. 710 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 8: I get that part, you know, from the money, but 711 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 8: this kid earned it. You got to give him the shot. 712 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 713 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: So. 714 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 715 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 6: Cody Merrow, who is our chief marketing officer, produces Aljo's podcast, 716 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 6: and he texted me Kenny that the betting line for 717 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 6: Jose Aldo versus Pyotr Jan right, he got Yon minus 718 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 6: two forty. Wow, Jose Alto Junior plus two oh five. 719 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 6: Water than I expected for sure. Now, I'm not saying 720 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 6: that just not on the strength of this five fight 721 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 6: winning streak and the win over Courts san Haagen that 722 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 6: al Joe is definitely the favorite favorite against Pioldri Jan. 723 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 6: But I do think it's a whole lot tighter than that. 724 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I think Jan Sterling is is a Pickham 725 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 6: fight for me. But Aldo plus two. 726 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 7: Oh five right now, that sounds juicy, That sounds in 727 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 7: to me. 728 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: You you won't see Aldo with those numbers too often, 729 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: especially because a guy who you know certainly doesn't have 730 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: the experience he's He's fresher, no doubt, has less miles 731 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: on him, right, but doesn't have the experience of a 732 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Jose Alder Jose Aldo not getting respect from the from 733 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: the bookies. 734 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that that those odds seem way off 735 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 8: to me. 736 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, so, Ray, before we get to Morob Dwallis Schwilly. 737 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 6: I want to get to anything else you might have 738 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 6: on USC two fifty, particularly Cody Stamen. Yeah, this has 739 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 6: to go down as one of the more remarkable performances 740 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 6: that I have ever seen in my life. And Ken 741 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 6: Flow obviously can relate to this deeply, uh in terms 742 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 6: of losing a brother and what the aftermath the immediate 743 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 6: aftermath I should say of that is, but for Cody's 744 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 6: stateman who broke down in our fighter meeting, and you 745 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 6: knew that the emotions were going to be bottled as 746 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 6: best he could until the fight was over, and then 747 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 6: they would come pouring out, and that's exactly the way 748 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 6: it went down. But I just don't know, Kenny and Ray, 749 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 6: how how you compete in that setting. I mean, I 750 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 6: can't relate to the physical toughness of these athletes, never 751 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 6: mind the mental nor emotional toughness. But Kenny, I'll start 752 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 6: with you, man, I just don't know how Cody was 753 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 6: able to compete and compete as well as he did. 754 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 7: Neither do I. 755 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, there's times where maybe he just needed to 756 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: go out there and express himself and kind of unleash 757 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: that energy. 758 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 7: I think that's probably what that was about. 759 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: But having to put those emotions aside and really focus 760 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: on on a tough guy and Brian kellerher I thought 761 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: was really impressive. I'm not sure we've really seen anything 762 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: like that, a turnaround quite like that after the loss 763 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 1: of a brother. 764 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 7: I can't even imagine. My heart goes out to Cody 765 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 7: and his family. 766 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: Such a difficult thing to deal with, man, and having 767 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: to go out there and fight during these times under 768 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: all this craziness that's going on on the world. 769 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 7: It was. It was very amazing and it was very 770 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 7: emotional to watch that. 771 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 772 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 8: I mean, look, I had the pleasure of spending some 773 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 8: time with Cody in Japan when I had Sazaki fighting 774 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 8: Crookshank vote on the card. Those guys are good guys. Man, 775 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 8: I did that thing killed me the other night, killed me. 776 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 8: Cody's name, and I mean, I really, I mean we 777 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 8: spent thisce. You know, we were in the same locker room. 778 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 8: He's a good guy. Crook Shank's a great guy. They 779 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 8: had a girl with him. She was a sweetheart. Yeah, 780 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 8: I can't tell you how it's I just hope he 781 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 8: he found some sort of peace and solace in just 782 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 8: fighting and letting it out. Everybody's different. I don't know 783 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 8: how the hell he did it. Well, what a great performance. 784 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 8: And I gotta tell you, you know, Kellah is a 785 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 8: nice guy. He's from Long Island. I never against Wong. 786 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 8: I'm not saying I was rootin, but in my head 787 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 8: Staman had to win that fight. But but just for 788 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 8: what should be good in the world, he deserved that 789 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 8: win against a tough guy. And I got to tell you, 790 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 8: I give Kellhu credit even jumping in there in that thing, 791 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 8: because everybody's emotional, everybody has feelings, everybody's hopefully has some 792 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 8: sort of empathy. That was such a crappy thing that 793 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 8: the only result was what we saw. He had to 794 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 8: win that fight. It made me feel great. Like again, 795 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 8: anything I could ever do for your Cody, I would. 796 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 8: I you know a few times I met you, always 797 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 8: been a gentleman. It just sucks, man, But I hope 798 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 8: he found some sort of happiness in that, which I 799 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 8: think he did. It was a great performance. Is stand 800 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 8: up looked on point. He did look great at forty five, 801 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 8: and man, that's a just a tough I just hope 802 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 8: he's find some sort of peace and you know, he 803 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 8: can move forward, because that's a tough intennon. Like you said, 804 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 8: you know it. And I think there was a situation 805 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 8: years ago where Jim Miller lost his baby. He lost 806 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 8: his kid and he fought like two weeks later. So 807 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 8: these are tough people, man, These are mentally tough people, 808 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 8: and they find a way and they have the resolved 809 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 8: and just the mental fortitude to push through and just 810 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 8: do what they love to do, and they know it's 811 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 8: they're doing it for the right reason. I'm sure Cody's 812 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 8: brother would have never wanted him not to take that fight, 813 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 8: you know what I mean, So he just pats off 814 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 8: to him. I just hope he's okay. And I can't 815 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 8: relate to it because I've never gone through it, but 816 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 8: I could tell you emotionally, I was in tears, so 817 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 8: I know I felt it, and I just hope he's okay. 818 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 6: I know DC lost an uncle once during fight week 819 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 6: and he had to really shut the family out and 820 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 6: he ended up submitting Rumble Johnson that weekend. But for 821 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 6: Cody's Stamon, I mean, this was his eighteen year old 822 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 6: brother the week before the fight. And for Ken Fla, 823 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 6: obviously your younger brother, you know, my younger brother had 824 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 6: open heart surgery a couple of years ago, and those 825 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 6: were the longest nine hours of my life. I can 826 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 6: tell you that, you know, so uh, just so much 827 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 6: respect for Cody and certainly for Brian Kellerher who obviously 828 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 6: would have felt horribly. I think if he had finished Cody, 829 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 6: I think you're right, Ray, there was fine intervention with 830 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 6: that outcome, all right before we let you go, Morob 831 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 6: and the team staying out in Las Vegas. He's fighting 832 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 6: Ray Boord coming up this weekend. He's a massive favorite, 833 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 6: your guy Rob getting a lot of respect from Las Vegas, Ray, Uh. 834 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 6: And truly, maybe because of the way those first two 835 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 6: fights went, isn't on the ascent that he could be 836 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 6: you and I have top privately, could be five and 837 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,959 Speaker 6: oh in the UFC right now. 838 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 8: Without of that, I think that's I think that's a 839 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 8: no brainer. He's that in my book, he's five and 840 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 8: zero and just uh. I don't even want to rehitch 841 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 8: what happened in Jersey, but just give him an A 842 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 8: plus fucking bowls and toughness and just willing to die 843 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 8: in the acta guy and you got to give that 844 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 8: guy credit. Plus he's a great kid. Uh. He was 845 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 8: part of al Jo's camp. He's always in shape. If 846 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 8: you haven't watch his videos, he was non stop. You 847 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 8: got yeah, you gotta. Did you get a chance to 848 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 8: talk to him. 849 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 6: I didn't get to talk to him, but I find 850 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 6: myself on his Instagram feed pretty pretty regular. 851 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 7: Real. Yes. 852 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 8: You know when they called me about the fight. You 853 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 8: know the kid that manages the Jim Steve Lee. I 854 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 8: go listen, talk to Morob. He'll tell you exactly what 855 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 8: he's feeling. If he wants to fight, that's good enough 856 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 8: for me. And because he's he's very, very, just honest, 857 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 8: and you always get just a practical opinion from him, 858 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So he's a down to 859 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 8: earth kid. He's humble, he's grateful for everything he's got. 860 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 8: I think everybody could learn from him. I'm telling you 861 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 8: we need more of those guys in this world. That's 862 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 8: all I can say. 863 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 6: He's really a unifying force I think for the team too, 864 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 6: even if English is his second language. 865 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 8: You know, listen, look in the times we're at now, 866 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 8: which are crazy. I mean, look at only all the 867 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 8: different personalities we have in this gym, and colors and ethnicity, ethnicities, 868 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 8: every dude, we just what I love about sports and music. 869 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 8: It transcends all that bullshit. You don't you don't see color, 870 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 8: you don't see anything. You just see a person. You 871 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 8: see a human, you see a friend. You know, And 872 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 8: we have so many people from Albanians to you know, 873 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 8: he's from Georgia, you know, black, white Spans. It doesn't 874 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 8: fucking matter. When you're in a gym and you're on 875 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 8: a team, it all comes together. And I think that's 876 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 8: what everybody has to learn from, man, because we definitely 877 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 8: can all get along. And I don't want to even 878 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 8: go to that, you know, going to that, but uh, 879 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 8: just Morob is a good guy, and I'm telling you 880 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 8: the world could use a lot more of those guys. 881 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 8: It's just he's a pleasure to be around. You could 882 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 8: never be down when he's around. And if something's wrong, 883 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 8: he's there. You know, he's got his shoulder, you could cry. 884 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 8: He's just a great kit. I really are really a 885 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 8: great kid. Look al Jo staying out there. Thank god 886 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 8: he didn't get hurt. But those guys are sticking together, man. 887 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 8: And again, you know, I don't want to take credit 888 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 8: for anybody's wins, but I want to take credit for 889 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 8: the culture of this gym and the way they on 890 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 8: together for so many years. You guys, know, Kenn, you know, 891 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 8: it's hard to keep a place together, different personalities. Who 892 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 8: It's tough. Man. I don't know how much longer we 893 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 8: could do it. But man, I'm so proud of those 894 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 8: guys stepping up. It sucked for me being on the couch. 895 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 8: That's definitely the worst place for me. I you know, 896 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 8: I was I was gonna type something in between. I 897 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 8: couldn't even get my fingers I was. I was panicking. 898 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 8: I would my fingers were stuck, and thank god he 899 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 8: got that thing out in the first round. I wouldn't 900 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 8: have made it to the second round. But again, these 901 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 8: guys are phenomenal that they're loyal guys. They stick together, 902 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 8: and you know, I think it's a you know, a 903 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 8: second family for a lot of people. And it's that 904 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 8: that was just that that wind was so good for 905 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 8: so many reasons. It's it's you know, you know, from 906 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 8: that if he would have lost, I probably would have 907 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 8: hung myself today, you know what I mean. But those guys, 908 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 8: you know, they out did a fucking great job. 909 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 910 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 8: You know, who doesn't respect that? I mean you know, 911 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 8: I'm gonna say, even al Jo's I called it the 912 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 8: ripple effect, a trickle down mma. When I'll beat Kevin 913 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 8: Lee that time, man, he in fired al Joe and 914 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 8: Aljo went out. He had that performance against Muno's and 915 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 8: he's on a roll now, he's on a pair, you know. Uh, 916 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 8: And I love that, you know, And I love that 917 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 8: ripple effect concept, man, where one guy does good and 918 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 8: it just inspires a whole team of people. And that's 919 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 8: that's life, man, that's life to me. 920 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 6: Well, congrats on a huge w buddy. And the pre 921 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 6: fight parade and everything was great. And uh, I almost 922 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 6: wanted to like FaceTime you before the fight and just 923 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 6: have you there on mute, but I thought it would 924 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 6: distract me on the broadcast. 925 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 7: So enjoy it. 926 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 6: And you know, despite what they say on the streets, Ray, 927 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 6: you're actually a pretty decent guy too, So congratulate and. 928 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 8: Before I forget too, ye you. Uh, DC and Joe. 929 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 8: What a great team, what a great synergy, great chemistry. 930 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 8: Love seeing DC coming into his own Man, he's a 931 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 8: force to be reckoned with. Man, he's getting more comfortable now. 932 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 8: He's funny, he's insightful. 933 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's letting it go. 934 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 7: And no matter what he. 935 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 8: Says, who's gonna argue with that guy? He'll dump you 936 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 8: right on your fucking head. 937 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 6: Yeah that's right. 938 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 8: I mean, the guy's really just become a personality. 939 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 7: Man. 940 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 8: He's definitely got a Korea and it's been nice to 941 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 8: really watch you guys. 942 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 6: Well thanks, looks like we just lost ray Longo. But 943 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 6: I appreciate the uh, the sentimental and all the feedback 944 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 6: on the project. 945 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 7: Yeah there he is. 946 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 8: I can't get you back. 947 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 6: All right, Well, we love him, ray Longo. What a win, 948 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 6: but mal Ja main Sterling. There's no overstating how big 949 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 6: a victory that was. And congrats to all the other 950 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 6: winners at UFC two fifty. It was a memorable night. 951 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 6: Alex Perez getting it done with the calf kicks again, 952 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 6: Ken Flow. Somebody's got to figure some shit out, man, 953 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 6: somebody's gotta figure it out. 954 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: I loved it, you know, again, to see that kind 955 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: of damage done so quickly. I gets the guyland Formika, 956 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: who's been around the block once or twice or three times. 957 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: I thought was great to see those kicks were absolutely 958 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: brutal and just just hurt, you know. Anyway, I talked 959 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: a little bit about on Twitter, just dealing with something 960 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: like shin splints for anyone who's run a lot or 961 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: played soccer a lot, and it's like shin splints times 962 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: ten or having ship splints and then getting kicked right 963 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: in the shit as hard as you can. 964 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 7: It's absolutely brutal. 965 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: Guys are continuing to utilize this technique and people that 966 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: need to be prepared for it in training. 967 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 6: Man, it's brutal, right, you feel like your leg's broken. 968 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 6: For me, you had to go down. 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It's the main 1005 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 6: event challenge and the time is most definitely hi finished fight. 1006 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 7: How do you everything? 1007 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 4: Both will to win the main event challenge to John 1008 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 4: Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. 1009 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 6: All right, so forty six apiece going into UFC two 1010 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 6: to fifty. Big week for our guy, Ian Parker on 1011 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 6: social media at Ian Parker MMA nine to five the 1012 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 6: final you guys had five dissenting picks. Ian went four 1013 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 6: and one on those fights, so the duck field himself 1014 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 6: a little bit this week. Now, most of the betting 1015 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 6: favorites came in across the board at UFC two to fifty, 1016 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 6: Like if you parlayed all five favorites on the main card, 1017 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 6: that was a winning ticket. So perhaps some dogs are 1018 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 6: gonna bark this weekend. We also point out Ken Flow 1019 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 6: did change his co main event pick from a sunsout 1020 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 6: of Garbrent fight week, so it's fifty five fifty one 1021 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,760 Speaker 6: three picks today. It's UFC Fight Night I versus Calvio 1022 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 6: first one at bantamweight. Marob Dwalash Willie minus three sixty 1023 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 6: and ray Borg is plus three hundred. So ed, if 1024 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 6: you're looking for Morob to get some respect for his efforts, 1025 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 6: for his strength of schedule, he's getting it from Vegas. 1026 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 6: What do you think about the price and Marob against 1027 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 6: ray Borg. 1028 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 3: Price is a little high, but I think that also 1029 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 3: comes in based on ray Borg just losing to Ricky Simone, 1030 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 3: who can be considered somewhat of a similar fighter. Morob 1031 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 3: is an absolute takedown in Cardio Machine, and we just 1032 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 3: saw that that's not someone that ray Borg does really 1033 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 3: well against. And it's confusing because ray Borg is an 1034 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: excellent grappler, but uh, you know, with the momentum of 1035 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 3: al Jo on that in that team, I love Morob 1036 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 3: in this position. I think it's a great name to 1037 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 3: get on his resume as a win. So I'm going 1038 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 3: with Morob here, absolutely. 1039 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ken Flow hard to do much better than al 1040 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 6: Jamain Sterling is your primary fucking training partner if you're 1041 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 6: a badam weight in the UFC. Right now, ray Borg 1042 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 6: and you know this, Kenny because you called a lot 1043 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 6: of his early fights. His seventh pro fight took place 1044 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 6: in the UFC. He was six and oh when he 1045 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 6: made his UFC debut in twenty fourteen, so it's got 1046 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 6: a lot more UFC experience. Twelve times in the UFC. 1047 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 6: Of course, he fought DJ for the belt back in 1048 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 6: twenty seventeen, but he also fought Ricky Simone just twenty 1049 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 6: six days ago. And Kelleher looked pretty good against Cody 1050 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 6: Stateman with that quick turnaround. What do you think about 1051 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 6: Borg making a quick turn and do you feel like 1052 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 6: he's as up against it as the odds suggest flow? 1053 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, I think for Ray he has struggled with 1054 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: his weight in the past, obviously, you know, with this 1055 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of quick turnaround, I don't think that's going to 1056 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: be a factor here. I thought he looked pretty good 1057 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: in his last fight. Yes, he lost, but it was 1058 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: very close. I thought he landed some excellent combinations. His 1059 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: striking has improved a lot over the last year or so. 1060 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: I do think he's a dangerous grappler as well. Is 1061 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: he gonna beat Morob here? 1062 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 7: I'm not so sure. 1063 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,959 Speaker 1: I think you know, that quick turnaround and him having 1064 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: yes it was a good fight against them own, but 1065 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: it was a tough fight. 1066 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 7: He definitely took some damage. He gave some, but he 1067 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 7: took them as well. 1068 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: I think that may come back to haunt them a 1069 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: little bit in misfight against Marob as well. 1070 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 7: I like Marod by decision here. 1071 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a hard fifteen minute fight. I mean, 1072 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 6: I love Borg's fearlessness and taking the risk, and I 1073 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 6: think the fact that he's won two of three allows 1074 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 6: him to take that risk even though he is coming 1075 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 6: off a loss. It would only be two in a row. 1076 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 6: But if he loses this one, right, then there's a 1077 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 6: whole lot of pressure on him and his next fight 1078 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 6: to not lose three in a row. But that is 1079 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 6: one one Albuquerque. Tough dude, and he's got mouse to 1080 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 6: feed and he's certainly a fighters fight, all right. Co 1081 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 6: main event in the UFC midwaight division. A lot of 1082 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 6: heat on this one. I will set it up as 1083 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 6: quickly as I can. Marvin Vittori minus two to twenty, 1084 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 6: Carl Robertson plus one eighty will need the round of 1085 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 6: the method by the way, Ian as well. So VITORI 1086 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 6: had a fight scheduled against Darren Stewart March twenty first 1087 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 6: in London, Flies to London show gets canceled. Then he 1088 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 6: and Robertson were supposed to fight April twenty fifth, I 1089 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 6: think in Nebraska that and gets postponed. Then it was 1090 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 6: May thirteenth in Jacksonville. The fight was still on after 1091 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 6: Robertson misses weight, but his body didn't cooperate there after 1092 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 6: he was hospitalized. The fight gets called off, but Torri 1093 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 6: goes nuts at the host hotel and I think rightfully so, 1094 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 6: by the way, and now this Saturday, June thirteenth, it 1095 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 6: shall be done. Ian Parker Robertson plus one eighty Vittori 1096 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 6: monus T twenty. 1097 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 7: Who do you like? 1098 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 9: I think if that video of the hotel didn't happen, 1099 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 9: that price would probably more like minus one ninety five. 1100 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 3: I guess the first time that ye is raised the 1101 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 3: odds based on some dudes fucking rage. 1102 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 6: Look. 1103 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: I think Martin Vittori is a special fighter in this division. 1104 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 3: I think it's somebody that probably hasn't talked about a lot, 1105 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 3: and his performances he. 1106 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 7: Keeps getting better. 1107 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 9: Cardio is not an option. 1108 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 3: His combinations are there. I love his IQ in the 1109 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 3: cage his angles. I think he's just a very smart fighter, 1110 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 3: and even. 1111 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 9: Though I guess he is an emotional guy, this will 1112 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 9: be a test. 1113 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 3: Whether we see if that happens in a negative way 1114 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 3: towards him, because Roberson is one hell of an athlete. 1115 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 3: You know, some about a guy that almost put away 1116 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 3: to share and in a situation that not many obviously, 1117 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 3: as we saw Glover fight against someone like Anthony Smith 1118 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 3: doesn't happen too often. 1119 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 9: I still like Victory here. I think he's one of 1120 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 9: those future guys I see going to the top. 1121 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 3: I'd love to see him in out of Sonya fight 1122 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 3: at some point in the future, just because I know. 1123 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 3: I think he fought out of Sonya really early and 1124 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: out of Sonya's UFC career, and he did well. I 1125 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 3: like Vittori here. I don't like it at minus two twenty. 1126 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 9: Though, I gotta be honest, it's a little higher than 1127 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 9: I like against. 1128 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 6: Gyle like Roberson, but I do like Marvin here can flow. 1129 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 6: Marvin Victoria's two in a row all right, by decision. 1130 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 6: So Vittoria's won two in a row since that split 1131 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 6: decision lost to Israelata Sonya. Kenny Robertson on the other side, 1132 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 6: good athlete, he was a good baseball player. He's won 1133 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 6: two in a row as well. What do you think 1134 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 6: Robertson the dog or Vittoria the favorite? 1135 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 7: For you kid, geez, you know this. 1136 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: Is a little bit closer, a closer fight for sure. 1137 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: I think that yeah, uh ian Ian pretty much nailed it. 1138 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: I think that Vittori needs to keep his emotions in 1139 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,720 Speaker 1: check here. Robertson as well for that matter. But Vittori 1140 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,479 Speaker 1: is huge for the division. I think he's gonna prush 1141 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: for him. He's got a good chin. I see Robertson 1142 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 1: probably getting tired in and around the third round. Let's 1143 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: go with third round TKO for Vittori. 1144 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 6: Third round TKO for Marvin Vittori is the pick to 1145 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 6: click for canfalone. One thing too, I just want to say, guys, 1146 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 6: I don't make picks in this space obviously or anywhere, 1147 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 6: but ray Borg get plus three hundred in our scoring system, 1148 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 6: because that is a four point winner, I'd probably just 1149 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 6: fucking take a flyer on him, even though I understand 1150 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 6: the challenges that are up against him and from a 1151 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 6: strength perspective and having fought recently. But to me, in 1152 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 6: our scoring system, I am surprised at plus three hundred 1153 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 6: that neither one of you was willing to pull the 1154 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 6: trigger in Well, here's the thing. 1155 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 3: One Ray told me if I ever picked against one 1156 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 3: of his guys, he'll just own me. 1157 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 9: So just based on that alone, I can't do it. 1158 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 8: Two. 1159 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 9: You know what, normally, to your point, listen, borg is 1160 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 9: is fought the best of the best. 1161 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 3: Literally, I just really don't like him fighting someone like 1162 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 3: Moram with the cardio and the takedowns and just the 1163 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 3: foward aggression after fighting someone in simone that was tough. 1164 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 9: Otherwise, to your point, yeah, it's a it's a value 1165 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 9: play for sure. 1166 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, and now you've got a four point lead, so 1167 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 6: you're not in a position where you have to chase 1168 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 6: points at least right now as we sit here on 1169 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,399 Speaker 6: the eighth of June. All right, main event, we're gonna 1170 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 6: have it be led by Team Florian this week. It's 1171 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 6: Jessica I minus one point fifteen Cynthia Calvio minus one 1172 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 6: Zho five Flow will need the round of the method 1173 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 6: of victory, So Calvio an ever so slight underdog here, 1174 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 6: moving up to one hundred and twenty five pounds as 1175 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 6: she faces the division's number one contender, so both women 1176 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 6: missed weight for their last fight. Calvio was four and 1177 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 6: a half over for her draw with Marina Hadriguez. I 1178 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 6: was fucking five over the flyweight limit for her win 1179 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 6: over Viviani outa Uzio, even though she looked great in 1180 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 6: that fight. Kenny, what do you think about the main 1181 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 6: event here? 1182 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: Geez, well, you know, I think Calvio is definitely gonna 1183 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: be the better grappler, There's no doubt about that. I 1184 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: think Jessica has more experience on the feet, probably a 1185 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: little bit sharper with her boxing. For Kelvio, I think 1186 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 1: she needs to get her wrestling in order. You know, 1187 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: if she's been doing her job, doing her homework, she 1188 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: should be coming in here with some sharp takedowns where 1189 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 1: she can really take advantage of Jessica. I think that 1190 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: Calvio will be able to find a way to get 1191 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: this fight to the ground. 1192 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 7: I see her getting the win. Let's go with second 1193 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 7: round submission. 1194 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 6: Round two submission for Cynthia Calvio for Ken Flow, Jessica 1195 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 6: i Ian has won four of five that followed a 1196 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 6: four fight losing streak. Of course, the only loss in 1197 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 6: there that vicious headkit courtesy of Valentina Chevchenko. So I 1198 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 6: a pretty good bet historically to go the distance. She's 1199 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 6: done so in eight of her last nine. We're scheduled 1200 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 6: for twenty five minutes here. Ian Parker need a selection 1201 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 6: on the main event? 1202 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 7: Kid? 1203 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 9: Do I be a dick and just tail Kenny's picks 1204 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 9: for the rest of the year. 1205 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 8: In Coast. 1206 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 6: Well, you picked before him too often, so you can't. 1207 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 3: We can change him during the week, but now I'm 1208 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 3: kidding that's no fun. This is an interesting pick, obviously 1209 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 3: not the people's ideal main event here, and I'm very 1210 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 3: curious to how this five rounds goes for someone like Veo. 1211 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 3: We haven't seen her do that yet. 1212 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 9: Kenny's got probably the best point out of all this. 1213 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 3: The biggest difference here outside of the hype, I believe 1214 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 3: is going to be the wrestling and grappling from Cynthia, 1215 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 3: but we just don't see her utilizing it that much. 1216 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 3: And you can go back to her fight against Courtney Casey, 1217 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 3: where she was fighting a taller, predominant striker who now 1218 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 3: we've seen turned into a little bit of a submission 1219 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 3: specialist as well. She was throwing a lot of Haymakers 1220 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 3: trying to throw you know, she wasn't really fighting her 1221 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 3: way in that distance really threw her off. 1222 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 9: I think she's had time to work on that. 1223 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 3: I do think I is not used to fighting someone 1224 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,399 Speaker 3: maybe as aggressive, And I think the Kenny's point here, 1225 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 3: I mean, this. 1226 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 9: Is a hard pick. This really is, you know, because 1227 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 9: I do think it's going to go to a decision. 1228 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 3: I don't think either one is going to take the 1229 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 3: other out. I just don't see the power there, you know. 1230 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 3: And I's last, you know, when she didn't fight that 1231 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 3: opponent wasn't near Cynthia Cavillo's level. In my opinion, that's 1232 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 3: a factor too. That was kind of a prospect that 1233 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 3: I thought was rushed up a little too quickly against 1234 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 3: a veteran. So I'm going to also take Cynthia here. 1235 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 3: I think she needs to go back to that wrestling route. 1236 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 3: That's where she got to where she was so quick. 1237 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 8: It was a good. 1238 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 9: Prospect that everyone was looking at. I like Cynthia by decision, and. 1239 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 6: She's pumped to not be cutting down to one hundred 1240 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 6: and sixteen pounds, And what an opportunity for Calvio in 1241 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 6: what is a thin division, respectfully, at least at the top. 1242 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 6: She's fighting the number one contender in her UFC Flyway debut, 1243 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 6: so you know this division didn't exist when Calvio made 1244 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 6: her UFC debut. If she beats Jessica, she becomes the 1245 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 6: number one contender, might be fighting Valentina inside of a year, 1246 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 6: which is crazy to think about. All right, well, now 1247 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 6: the team Annik has the leading and we kind of 1248 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 6: got to determine the punishment. So we do want to 1249 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 6: hear from our Antaki Florian podcast listeners. So the loser 1250 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,440 Speaker 6: of the twenty twenty main Event challenge has to do 1251 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 6: something that is determined by the winner. Now I have 1252 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 6: to pay off that bet, but Ian has said he 1253 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 6: is going to join me in whatever that endeavor is. 1254 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 6: So at Anti Florian pod on Instagram or Twitter and 1255 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 6: we'll let Ken Flow and co Marrow maybe come up 1256 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 6: with what the final decision is gonna be. But uh, 1257 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 6: any suggestions were welcome. I mean, Ian, I think the 1258 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 6: Power Hour U has some legs, just because I know 1259 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 6: if Ken Flow had to drink seven and the third 1260 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 6: beers in an hour, he'd be. 1261 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,359 Speaker 7: Fucked dude, one beer. 1262 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 6: I know, well you and me, both Ken Flow and 1263 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 6: I have low alcohol tolerance. Let's just put it out there. 1264 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you were impressive at your charity job, so 1265 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 3: I think you're playing that a little too close to 1266 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 3: the cuff there. Actually, I'm gonna coll complete bullshit because 1267 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 3: you had like seven pineapple tequilas. Your brother had like 1268 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 3: three chicken wings and he's the one that fell through 1269 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 3: a table on the right, so that, I. 1270 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 9: Swear to guys, John was in the corner. I'm watching 1271 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 9: John Blovics verst John the last breaks. John's like, what happened? 1272 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 9: Like your brother fell through a table? Dude, you're doing 1273 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 9: a fucking You're doing a fucking shoey and then you're 1274 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 9: following me on Instagram. 1275 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1276 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,600 Speaker 6: I do think that the Instagram followed maybe would be 1277 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 6: part of it, and there would have to be some 1278 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 6: language that he couldn't follow you. Uh And yeah, I 1279 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 6: think that's all good stuff. But we will, uh, we 1280 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 6: will push that to the listeners and see if we 1281 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 6: get anywhere. If you want more content from Ian, it 1282 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 6: is at Ian Parker Mma Ken Flow. Don't want that 1283 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 6: Instagram content, folks, but if you do, it's at Ian 1284 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 6: Parker mma on Instagram. And I'm following Ian's one of 1285 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 6: my good friends. So I'm following dude n all. 1286 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 3: My videos and pictures because all it is is reposts 1287 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 3: of you fucking guys. Of course that's why he likes it, 1288 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 3: you know, if it's something you're just me by myself. 1289 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 9: Nothing. I got Ray Longo retweeting my tweets. 1290 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 8: We're like a reunited family again. 1291 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 7: And we're coming. Yeah, Kenny, that's amazing. 1292 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you and Logo are in a good place, all right, Ian, Thanks, 1293 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,919 Speaker 6: good job. Well, we'll see how it goes this week 1294 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 6: and we'll talk to you next Monday as we look 1295 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 6: ahead to uh To Blades and Volkov. Thanks buddy, You 1296 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 6: got it, guys. All right, So ken flow before we 1297 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,200 Speaker 6: get on out of here. Connor McGregor has announced his retirement, 1298 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 6: I believe for the third time in the last four years. 1299 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 6: Some quotes courtesy of ESPN dot COM's Ariel Hell wanna 1300 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 6: hear they should have just kept the ball rolling. I mean, 1301 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 6: why are they pushing Kabib versus Gaechie back to September? 1302 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 6: You know what's happen in September. Something else is gonna 1303 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 6: happen in September, and that's not gonna happen. I laid 1304 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 6: out a plan and a method that was the right move, 1305 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 6: the right methods to go with, and they always want 1306 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 6: to bock at that and not make it happen, or 1307 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 6: just drag it on. Whatever I say. They want to 1308 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 6: go against it to show some kind of power. They 1309 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 6: should have just done the fight me and justin for 1310 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 6: the interim title and just kept the ball rolling. In 1311 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 6: one final quote, Kenny, I had my goals, my plans 1312 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 6: the season, right. You heard McGregor talk a lot about 1313 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 6: this fighting season in twenty twenty. I had everything laid out. Obviously, 1314 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 6: the world has gone bleeding bonkers at the minute. There's 1315 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 6: fuck all happening at the minute. They want to throw me. 1316 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 6: This is the line. They want to throw me up 1317 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 6: and down weights and offer me stupid fights. I don't 1318 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 6: really give a fuck. I'm over it. So at least 1319 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 6: right now, Connor seems to want to fight. It seems 1320 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 6: like he was starting to maybe cut down to fifty five. 1321 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 6: Doesn't seem satisfied with the fights that are being offered. 1322 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 6: We've talked a lot about maybe some of the promotional challenges. 1323 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 6: You know, you're going to trot this guy out with 1324 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 6: no gate at the UFC Apex. You gotta take him 1325 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 6: to fight Island with no fans. There's a lot of 1326 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 6: different parts to this. I'm just curious how this Connor 1327 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 6: McGregor k news sort of registered on your plate over 1328 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 6: the weekend, if at all. 1329 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 7: Listen. 1330 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: I think he's being pretty candid about this. I think 1331 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: he envisioned himself really working towards a title. Uh in 1332 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: the UFC's lightweight division. It seems like, you know, he's 1333 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: probably not getting the fights that he wants. Obviously, I 1334 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: think it made I thought it made a lot of 1335 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: sense for him to fight Gaichie. But again with this 1336 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: weird time again, would the UFC sacrifice a fight with 1337 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: no crowd for a gay chie Connor fight right now? 1338 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 7: Doesn't make sense? Maybe you know Connor for any fight 1339 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 7: right now. Uh So, I don't know. 1340 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: I think Connor, if he wants to fight, he wants 1341 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: to have a fight that's going to be a true 1342 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: challenge for him. So we can go out and train 1343 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,919 Speaker 1: hard to look like he was putting in the work 1344 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: and and staying in shape and saying the right things. 1345 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: And I also feel like he has a lot of 1346 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: leverage right now in today's UFC environment when you have 1347 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: John Jones, Henry s Hudo, and mas Vidal saying that 1348 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: they're all going to retire. They all want to be 1349 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: released from UFC contract. So it's an interesting time right 1350 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 1: now for not just these guys, but all the fighters. 1351 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 7: And I don't know. Do I believe that he's going 1352 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 7: to be retired at this point? 1353 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: No? Can he retire at this point, yes, absolutely, but 1354 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I think it for Connor unfortunately, he's just gonna have 1355 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to wait for that right time. After maybe Habib and 1356 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 1: Gate you to fight, and when things get back to 1357 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: normal again, God willing, we'll see him back in the 1358 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Octor gun. 1359 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 7: See. 1360 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 6: I just don't think he's satisfied when it comes to 1361 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,919 Speaker 6: his MMA legacy. So when you say he can walk away, 1362 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 6: I think in many ways he can. Financially, of course 1363 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 6: he can. I know you're back. Ultimately took the decision 1364 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 6: out of your hands. There's no career ending injury right 1365 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 6: now for Connor McGregor. But I don't think he can 1366 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,959 Speaker 6: really enjoy his retirement without building upon his mixed martial 1367 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 6: arts legacy. I do believe, and I've been wrong before 1368 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 6: and maybe I'm wrong about this, you know, but I 1369 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 6: believe in his heart that he cares deeply about his 1370 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 6: MMA legacy and wants so badly to his goat comments 1371 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 6: not all that long ago, wants to add to it 1372 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 6: so badly that I just don't. 1373 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Believe at all that he's walking away for good. I 1374 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 1: also feel like we haven't seen the best Connor just yet. 1375 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: I still think that as a martial artist and a 1376 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: guy who truly loves to learn the game, he has 1377 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: a lot more to show. 1378 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 7: He's still in his prime. 1379 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: It would be a shame to not see him fulfill 1380 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 1: that potential and to show, you know, the other tricks 1381 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 1: that he most certainly has up his sleep before I. 1382 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 7: Let you go. 1383 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 6: Las Vegas is opening up. I couldn't even believe the 1384 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 6: extent to which it was opening up. Obviously, here in 1385 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 6: South Florida, Myke County, Palm Beach County, not so great 1386 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,479 Speaker 6: rises in cases, but for the most part, the state 1387 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 6: is starting to open up. Any update on mrakibjjmurackibjj dot 1388 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 6: com or you're still sort of in a holding pattern 1389 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 6: or anything, We're. 1390 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 7: Still in a holding pattern. 1391 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 1: We've gotten word that things are going to start to 1392 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: open up for gym's like hours in the next week 1393 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: or two you kind of still have to go out 1394 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 1: and fill these documents out to kind of get approval 1395 01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 1: from the county that you're a business that's going to 1396 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: be responsible and blah blah blah. 1397 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 7: It's good to see businesses open. 1398 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: I think it should have been done a little bit earlier, 1399 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: to be honest, as long as you're being responsible and 1400 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: taking the certain precautions, I think it's a travesty for 1401 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot of these business owners. I thought in the 1402 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: beginning this was something to be feared. Absolutely, it's a 1403 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 1: real thing. But to put a lot of these business owners, 1404 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: especially those that have been putting their life towards these 1405 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: things like these small mom and pop shops. These guys 1406 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: have been you know, working their ass off for twenty 1407 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: twenty five years and for them to you know, not 1408 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: be able to provide for their family, I think it's 1409 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: a hard thing to ask for a month, two months, 1410 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: three months now going on going on for this. So 1411 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: again it's time for things to start opening up, and 1412 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 1: as long as people are responsible, I think it's I 1413 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: think it's the right right choice. So hopefully we'll be 1414 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: up and running. And you know, I know our students 1415 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,959 Speaker 1: are really itchy to get. 1416 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 6: Back to it, right, And hopefully Buffer doesn't sue you 1417 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 6: for just saying it's time there, because that would only compare. 1418 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: That's right, geez, I didn't even realize that I'm just 1419 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: gonna right now he's calling me right now. 1420 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 6: Buff I'm sorry, dude, You're just gonna say it's time 1421 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,440 Speaker 6: like out of the blue, right. 1422 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 7: I know that I'm gonna hire all these lawyers. 1423 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 5: Now. 1424 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 6: We do wish you all the best because, of course, 1425 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 6: my identical twin brother is a small business owner and 1426 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 6: they have stayed open and been able to do so. 1427 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 6: But I really do feel for you guys, and uh, 1428 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,160 Speaker 6: i'd imagine when people come back, you do the temperature 1429 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 6: screening at the very least when they walk on the door. 1430 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, we have all these you know, new protocols that 1431 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 1: we're going to be following and uh, you know, make 1432 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,919 Speaker 1: sure safe. 1433 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 6: It gives me a great excuse to never go back 1434 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 6: to American Top Team West Palm Beach and train the rest. 1435 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: Sorry, no, it's the same thing, dude, I you know, 1436 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: for me, it's like Florida Martial Arts Center, same exact thing. 1437 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 7: So every business, everything that I do is been limited 1438 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 7: by this. 1439 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 6: So it's been It's been tough, but I'm not the 1440 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 6: only one except for the Anak and Florian podcast going 1441 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 6: fucking strong as thanks to everybody, by the way for listening. 1442 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 6: For subscribing on YouTube, you can go to Antik Imploring 1443 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 6: or Anti Floran podcast dot com. If you want merchandise, 1444 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 6: the code for ten percent off is af Antik florianpodcast 1445 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 6: dot com and uh we will be right back with 1446 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 6: you next week. More UFC selections, a recap of UFC 1447 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 6: Fight Night I versus cal Vio. Thank you to our 1448 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 6: guest today, Raymond Peter Longo, Ian Parker, our producers TJ. 1449 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 6: DeSantis and Cody Merrow with that for Caandfulum John Anak 1450 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 6: Until next week. Enjoy the fights, don't text and drive 1451 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 6: yo fucking later. 1452 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 5: Col Hello, I am doctor George Hesus Mesa, a clinical 1453 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 5: psychologist and collector of Chicano latinx art. 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