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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'd almost forgotten the other half.
Speaker 4: Got about five dollars in your time.
Speaker 3: Five thousand dollars to you.
Speaker 4: Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3: Are you going to take the money and run? Or
Speaker 3: as football seasons approaching, are you going to give me
Speaker 3: a chance to win it back?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I got you.
Speaker 3: You're gonna give me a chance to win it back.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe not the full five thousand.
Speaker 2: Maybe not the full ten thousand, Yeah exactly, Maybe not
Speaker 2: the full ten but I'll let you chip away at it.
Speaker 3: Okay. You know, as a gambler, I'm happy you're gonna
Speaker 3: give me a chance to win it.
Speaker 4: Back.
Speaker 3: As a father, I wish you had said you were
Speaker 3: taking the money and running, but you know what, you
Speaker 3: take your wins where you can. Congrats buddy about fox me.
Speaker 3: You didn't just win the bet. You won the bet resoundingly.
Speaker 3: I had no chance from the very beginning. It's an
Speaker 3: all time bad wager by me, which makes an all
Speaker 3: time good wager by you. You should, you know, how
Speaker 3: like you ever walk into a restaurant and you see
Speaker 3: they have a dollar bill framed, It's like the first
Speaker 3: dollar ever made. You should have one of those hundreds
Speaker 3: framed and keep it with you forever. The first and
Speaker 3: only time I ever truly outfoxed my dad.
Speaker 4: To the time, Well it's foreshadowing there.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we'll see. I mean, I'm not gonna let
Speaker 3: that happen again. All right, now, we can do the show.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Welcome In episode forty two of What's Right with Nick Right,
Speaker 3: the podcast and YouTube show, a reminder Number one on
Speaker 3: our countdown of the fifty greatest basketball players of the
Speaker 3: last fifty years comes out on Sunday. It is not
Speaker 3: a spoiler to you know, acknowledge the fact that it
Speaker 3: will be Lebron. Lebron is the one name left. However,
Speaker 3: the video for it, oh my goodness, I mean we
Speaker 3: almost ran out of memory on the computer when we
Speaker 3: were recording the Lebron video. Demanse was here for the
Speaker 3: beginning of it, left, came back. I was still going,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be great that comes out on Sunday. But
Speaker 3: before we get to today's show, let's get to, as
Speaker 3: we always do, what we are not discussing on today's
Speaker 3: version of What's Right with Nick Right, we are not
Speaker 3: going to get into Genie Buss's Twitter account getting hacked
Speaker 3: allegedly selling PlayStations. I thought they were just trying to
Speaker 3: pay for Russell Westbrook buy out. Nos, she got hacked.
Speaker 3: Luca the MVP favorite once again. And by the way,
Speaker 3: have you seen the pictures demande of Skinny Luca?
Speaker 4: Yeah about young when he was young.
Speaker 3: No from this week, look at Skinny Luca. Somebody get
Speaker 3: my large adult Slovenian son of Sandwich. My man is
Speaker 3: trimmed down this summer in Slovenia. And we are not
Speaker 3: talking about f one's Lewis Hamilton joining the Broncos ownership group.
Speaker 3: Because we do not talk about F one on this show, however,
Speaker 3: we will be talking about what I thought should have
Speaker 3: been considered the biggest sports story of the summer. But
Speaker 3: it seemed like Ben Vallin, Dan Levettard, Mike Florio and
Speaker 3: me were the only people giving it the respect it deserved. Finally,
Speaker 3: the NFL now follow suit talking about the Dolphins and
Speaker 3: Tom Brady and the whole nine, so demonse get Us
Speaker 3: started up.
Speaker 2: According to a league investigation, the Dolphins repeatedly talked to
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Sean Payton without permission while while both
Speaker 2: of them were under contract. Yep, they've lost their twenty
Speaker 2: twenty first round pick and their twenty twenty four to
Speaker 2: third round pick as a penalty. Team owner Stephen Ross
Speaker 2: is suspended through six games and also has been fine
Speaker 2: to one point five million dollars, But his net worth
Speaker 2: is sitting at about eight point two billion, so it's
Speaker 2: how much.
Speaker 3: That's going to hurt the financial penalty probably not going
Speaker 3: to resonate that much. With Steven go ahead and.
Speaker 2: By the way, being suspended for six games, he's the
Speaker 2: team owner, so is go to the games.
Speaker 3: He can't go to the facilities, can't go to the games.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: So and he's also not you know some team owners
Speaker 3: or hands on right, and.
Speaker 4: It's like, hey, they're calling stuff in.
Speaker 3: Well, not not plays, but organizational decisions, okay, And he
Speaker 3: cannot be consulted theoretically on those things. So he can
Speaker 3: have no contact in that regard, all right.
Speaker 2: God And also, and back in twenty nineteen, when accused
Speaker 2: of intentionally tanking or telling coach Brian floor Is to
Speaker 2: intentionally tank, they were no, they were not found guilty
Speaker 2: because there was no evidence that they were ever trying
Speaker 2: to tank, because Brian Flora was actually winning games.
Speaker 3: And if you know he the claim there is that
Speaker 3: I said it, but I was joking exactly the old
Speaker 3: I lose a game, I'll give you one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Dollars, which is very crazy, as the league, not as
Speaker 2: the league came down hard enough on the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's talk about that and then we can
Speaker 3: we will. I will bring us to the Brady point,
Speaker 3: because the executive producer of the show, Gabe Goodwin, would
Speaker 3: quit in protest if we don't talk about the Brady
Speaker 3: particular complicity here.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So here's the problem. First of all, I really dislike
Speaker 3: Stephen Ross's statement where he implied that the investigation found
Speaker 3: that Brian Flores's allegations had no merit. It found the opposite, Hey,
Speaker 3: that they you did mention the one hundred thousand per loss.
Speaker 3: The league just decided you were joking there and that
Speaker 3: you were tampering, which is one of the things Brian
Speaker 3: Floor has alleged. So I think Brian Flores comes out
Speaker 3: of this looking better than anybody. I think it's full
Speaker 3: vindication for him. Here is the problem with the league
Speaker 3: saying that, and I quote the scope and the I
Speaker 3: want to get this exactly right. The scope and the
Speaker 3: severity of this level of tampering was unprecedented. The problem
Speaker 3: with the league saying this is the worst example of
Speaker 3: tampering we've ever seen, while also saying you're going to
Speaker 3: your penalty for that is going to be a slightly
Speaker 3: lower price than the Seattle Seahawks paid to acquire Jamal
Speaker 3: Adams is if for multi years with multiple teams when
Speaker 3: Brady was a Patriot, then when Brady was a Buck,
Speaker 3: you tamper with not only the quarterback of another team,
Speaker 3: but the Super Bowl winning quarterback of another team do
Speaker 3: it when he goes to the next team. Actually, it
Speaker 3: would appear induce him into retiring from that team and
Speaker 3: to get him on your team, which almost happened, and
Speaker 3: then also do the same thing with a Super Bowl
Speaker 3: champion coach. If the penalty is just a first and
Speaker 3: a third, I think it actually sends the opposite message
Speaker 3: to the league is trying to send to the to
Speaker 3: the rest of the league, which is I think the
Speaker 3: message they're trying to send is you'll be punished harshly
Speaker 3: for tamper the team. But if you know the ceiling
Speaker 3: of penalty for doing it multiple years involving the greatest
Speaker 3: player ever is a first and a third, then doesn't
Speaker 3: it make you feel pretty confident? All right? If we
Speaker 3: tamper with Chris Godwin when he's approaching free agency, what's
Speaker 3: gonna happen? Maybe we lose a fifth round pick. It
Speaker 3: would be not to bring up bad memories of yours,
Speaker 3: But Demanse went through a period in high school where
Speaker 3: you got in trouble a lot. You're you know, you
Speaker 3: just you didn't do a lot of bad things, but
Speaker 3: you seem to do them in an order of as
Speaker 3: soon as you got out of trouble, within six weeks
Speaker 3: you were in trouble again. And it was like he
Speaker 3: really only screwed up twice a year, but he would
Speaker 3: space them out constantly punished. If whatever the biggest scrip was,
Speaker 3: if I called you into me and your mom's room
Speaker 3: and I said, Demanse, this is the most disappointed I've
Speaker 3: ever been in you. This is the angriest I've ever
Speaker 3: been in you. It is unprecedented the scope of your
Speaker 3: mouth seasons and the severity of the penalty that that's approaching.
Speaker 3: So you are grounded for one week and no phone
Speaker 3: for two weeks, I think you'd walk out of there
Speaker 3: being like, oh, well, that's not that bad. And so
Speaker 3: if you are going to use the language the NFL used,
Speaker 3: I think they needed harsher penalty or else. It sends
Speaker 3: the message to the rest of the league is inting
Speaker 3: that big of a deal. Now, to the Brady part
Speaker 3: of it, I will almost always take the side of
Speaker 3: worker versus labor versus management, and I like that it's
Speaker 3: in the collective bargaining agreement that players and coaches cannot
Speaker 3: be penalized for tampering only organizations, and I think in
Speaker 3: real day to day life that's applicable. I think that
Speaker 3: if all of us ESPN tried to steal me away
Speaker 3: from Fox. I think that if ESPN got in trouble for,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to induce an employee under contract with
Speaker 3: another company, so be it. But should I get in
Speaker 3: trouble for listening? I don't think so. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's how that's work, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 3: so I also, as much as I'd love to pile
Speaker 3: on Brady here, I don't have as much of an
Speaker 3: issue with it. But to satiate Gabe Goodwin's thirst for
Speaker 3: some Brady slander, I will read you a tweet from
Speaker 3: the Athletic. NFL teams have been forced to forfeit their
Speaker 3: first round pick three times in league history. Tom Brady
Speaker 3: has been involved in all three instances. Wow Spygate in
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, to flate Gate in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: and now this tampering with the Miami Dolphins. I want
Speaker 3: to say one other thing about the tampering. The Dolphins
Speaker 3: tampering with Brady in twenty nineteen, his last year with
Speaker 3: New England, right when everyone knew that was going to
Speaker 3: be his last year with New England. I don't have
Speaker 3: that big of a problem what because to me, that
Speaker 3: was Brady was about to be a free agent, and
Speaker 3: that was them trying to set the table to be
Speaker 3: at the front of the line of his free agency search.
Speaker 3: I know that's against the rules. I don't have a
Speaker 3: huge issue with that them continuing it once he signed
Speaker 3: with another team, and the fact that it was successful
Speaker 3: it induced him into retiring from his team to try
Speaker 3: to go play for them. That to me is the
Speaker 3: real egregious part of this. And the fact that they
Speaker 3: ran the same you know, I don't want to say scheme,
Speaker 3: but they did the same thing involving a coach and
Speaker 3: got him to quit his team, right, And essensibly it's
Speaker 3: one of the reasons maybe they fire Brian and Flores.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is, it was a very effective tampering
Speaker 3: until the Flores lawsuit Blue lie whole thing up. I mean,
Speaker 3: they were Would the Dolphins have traded a million bucks
Speaker 3: a first and a third to get Brady and Sean Payton?
Speaker 3: Of course they would have, and it you know, not
Speaker 3: to misquote Scooby Doo, but it wasn't for the meddling kids.
Speaker 3: If it wasn't for Brian Flores's lawsuit, it would have
Speaker 3: all worked, all right. I hope, Gabe we got enough
Speaker 3: Tom Brady info in there where we were fair to
Speaker 3: Brady but also fair to the history of the league.
Speaker 3: All right, what's next?
Speaker 2: Still loads of criticisms surrounding Watson or Deshaun Watson's six
Speaker 2: games suspension. Seems that everybody on Twitter and everybody basically
Speaker 2: in the world agrees that the punishment should have been harsher,
Speaker 2: But the technicalities of the CVA are getting in the
Speaker 2: way of common sense.
Speaker 4: What should happen to? Here's what's going on? Here? What happens?
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say something a little. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's uncomfortable, but I try to always be as
Speaker 3: honest as I possibly can be when I'm broadcast. I
Speaker 3: I I joke with your mom that I'm more honest
Speaker 3: on television than I am in my day to day life.
Speaker 3: That I try to be as transparent as possible. Sometimes
Speaker 3: on TV I am a little more judicious with my
Speaker 3: words than here because I don't want them to be
Speaker 3: taken out of context, right, And I think here I
Speaker 3: have more room for a full explanation. Okay, So one
Speaker 3: of the things that I think is happening with the
Speaker 3: reaction to what I think the vast majority of people
Speaker 3: think is an incredibly light suspension, is I think, and
Speaker 3: this is where I have to be careful, but it's
Speaker 3: what I believe. I think the NFL is benefiting greatly
Speaker 3: right now from the fact that the judge in this
Speaker 3: case happens to be a woman. And by that I
Speaker 3: mean this, I think if that exact same verdicts the
Speaker 3: wrong word, but ruling was issued and it's a male
Speaker 3: judge signing, and it involves the terms of non violent
Speaker 3: sexual assault and continually referring to this as non violent
Speaker 3: sexual assault, I think that is far more problematic for
Speaker 3: the league if that is coming from a man's voice
Speaker 3: than Judge Sue Robinson. With that said, I personally find
Speaker 3: it just as egregious. But I just think the criticism
Speaker 3: as loud as the criticism has been, I think the
Speaker 3: criticism is actually a little quieter than it would have
Speaker 3: been if this was a different person giving the rule.
Speaker 3: All Right, So that's first point. The other point that
Speaker 3: is what is happening here is we need to remember
Speaker 3: that while we know of more than two dozen instances.
Speaker 3: The league only presented five, and the judge essentially dismissed
Speaker 3: one of them, so that she was only looking at
Speaker 3: four instances. We also know that the league does draw
Speaker 3: a distinction between violent and non violent sexual assault. Whether
Speaker 3: it should or it shouldn't, it does, and she felt
Speaker 3: kind of boxed in by President Jameis Winston got six
Speaker 3: games reduced to three. Zeke got six games that first
Speaker 3: time offenders with otherwise good reputations the harshest penalty they've
Speaker 3: gotten his six games, right. The question that I think
Speaker 3: most people have is is it fair to call someone
Speaker 3: a first time offender when there are this many accusations
Speaker 3: that are they a first time, a second time, a
Speaker 3: third time, a fourth time. That's not how they looked
Speaker 3: at it. They looked at these all kind of as one,
Speaker 3: you know, big thing. The other issue that I took
Speaker 3: personally with Judge Robinson's ruling that I think is very
Speaker 3: uncomfortable for the Browns is she put in her ruling
Speaker 3: that Deshaun can now only get massages from team employees,
Speaker 3: essentially like it's got to be set up through the team.
Speaker 3: I think that sets up a very uncomfortable situation for
Speaker 3: the people working for the Browns. Right in that position
Speaker 3: that might say, well, that's not what I signed up for.
Speaker 3: But on the flip side of that is he's the best,
Speaker 3: highest paid, most important player on the team, might like,
Speaker 3: do I have an obligation there? So I think that's
Speaker 3: something for the Browns to handle with, you know, internally, Okay,
Speaker 3: as far as what I think is going to happen,
Speaker 3: this is you know, by the time you guys hear
Speaker 3: and see this, we will know if the NFL did,
Speaker 3: in fact appeal. I think the NFL will appeal, even though,
Speaker 3: and this is one of those damned if you do,
Speaker 3: damned if you don't things. The optics on that the
Speaker 3: NFL is going to get crushed whether they appeal or
Speaker 3: they don't. If they don't, people will say the NFL
Speaker 3: was too lenient, even though they wanted a one year suspension.
Speaker 3: If they do, people will say, well, then what was
Speaker 3: the point of having this independent arbiter if you're just
Speaker 3: going to overrule them if it doesn't go your way.
Speaker 3: I would be shocked, though, if the NFL let the
Speaker 3: fewest games anyone could have anticipated, being the penalty six
Speaker 3: games and the smallest financial penalty possible, less than four
Speaker 3: hundred grand I don't think that's standing, so I think
Speaker 3: the NFL is gonna appeal. I don't think they are
Speaker 3: going to then impose their full initial we wanted a year.
Speaker 3: That way, it does look there is some deference to
Speaker 3: Judge Robinson's ruling, but I think he's gonna get ten
Speaker 3: to twelve games. I think he's gonna get ten to
Speaker 3: twelve games. And from a very cynical standpoint, I think
Speaker 3: it is better for the NFL that he get twelve
Speaker 3: games thereabouts than he get a full year. And the
Speaker 3: reason for that is if he gets a full year,
Speaker 3: then going into next season, this is a story all over.
Speaker 3: His first game with the Browns is for all of this.
Speaker 3: If he gets twelve games again, this should not be
Speaker 3: baked into the math on how much he gets. I'm
Speaker 3: just if I'm doing the most cynical reading possible, you
Speaker 3: give him twelve games. By the time he comes back,
Speaker 3: the Browns aren't on national TV anymore because they would
Speaker 3: have played twelve games without him. They're out of the
Speaker 3: playoff race. Everyone is focused on other things. It's a story.
Speaker 3: The week he comes back, they then finish their season
Speaker 3: and then next year. It's somewhat of a quote clean slate, unquote.
Speaker 3: So I think it's in the league's best interest that
Speaker 3: they up it. They show the world they're taking it seriously,
Speaker 3: and they do ten to twelve games. Again, apologies if
Speaker 3: by the time you guys hear this, we already know
Speaker 3: definitively that they are or are not appealing. My guess
Speaker 3: is they do appeal, and they up it somewhat. All right,
Speaker 3: what's next?
Speaker 2: First game of the preseason is on Thursday. The Jags
Speaker 2: are facing the Raiders, whose hype train is out of control.
Speaker 3: Yes it is, thank you for saying that, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Do you think the Raiders are getting too much hype?
Speaker 4: I mean clearly you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean listen. I adding Devontae Adams helps a ton.
Speaker 3: And by the way, bummer that Trevor Lawrence is not
Speaker 3: playing in this game. I want to see as much
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence as possible. If I believed in the for
Speaker 3: an office more and some of their other offseason moves,
Speaker 3: I'd love to be the guy to pick the Jags
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. I'd love to do that. I
Speaker 3: can't do it as much as I believe in Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 3: But set that aside. The problem for the Raiders is
Speaker 3: I don't want to get too much into our full
Speaker 3: NFL season preview, and I know the Raiders made the
Speaker 3: playoffs last year. But to me, you gotta look at
Speaker 3: the AFC right now as division division, the Bills in
Speaker 3: the East, the Bengals, and the Raiders in the North.
Speaker 3: One of the teams in the South, I think it'll
Speaker 3: be the Colts, but that somebody's got to win the division.
Speaker 3: I think the Titans take a step back, and then
Speaker 3: in the West the Chiefs and the Chargers. So we're
Speaker 3: already at six teams that I think our hands down
Speaker 3: better than the Raiders are, or in the team in
Speaker 3: the Colts case, just better positioned. Because somebody's got to
Speaker 3: win that division. So the Raiders, the Broncos, the team
Speaker 3: that doesn't win the South, call it the Titans. Some
Speaker 3: people still believe in the Steelers. I'm not one of them.
Speaker 3: The Browns. If Deshaun has only suspended six games, plus
Speaker 3: if the Patriots continue what they had building last year,
Speaker 3: I don't buy them, And the Dolphins, I don't buy them. Still,
Speaker 3: the point is it's five or six teams competing for
Speaker 3: one spot. And I know our Colin Goaherd loves Derek
Speaker 3: Carr and DeVante Adams, calling him a future Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: He is, without question, the worst quarterback in his own division.
Speaker 3: Now that's in part because it's the greatest quarterbacking division ever, maybe,
Speaker 3: But when was the last time a team with the
Speaker 3: worst quarterback in a division made some serious noise? It
Speaker 3: is you've got to have. If that can happen, it's
Speaker 3: because your team is built to win despite the quarterback,
Speaker 3: the way some would argue the Niners were a few
Speaker 3: years ago. But that's not the cage with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: What they do best is throw the football their passing game.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I am fading the Raiders this year.
Speaker 3: I think they are an under five hundred football team,
Speaker 3: not a tear gable football team, but too many difficult games,
Speaker 3: too tough of a schedule, and I don't think adding
Speaker 3: DeVante Adams is enough of a needle mover all, Right,
Speaker 3: what's last?
Speaker 2: During the offseason, Deebo Samuel requested a trade, which many
Speaker 2: people think that he was unhappy with his role. Sunday,
Speaker 2: he agreed to a three year seventy five million dollars deal,
Speaker 2: fifty eight point one million being guaranteed, and over the
Speaker 2: course of these three years, if he breaks or hits
Speaker 2: the milestones as a running back, he'll get just under
Speaker 2: two million dollars.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Are the forty nine Ers a scary team with Trey
Speaker 2: Lance and Deebo Samuel Listen.
Speaker 3: I think that they're again not to do the full
Speaker 3: NFL preview thing, but I believe in Trey Lance. I
Speaker 3: think the Niners are right now. They're my favorites to
Speaker 3: win the NFC. I agree the Niners will buy the
Speaker 3: end of the year, will have upgraded at quarterback. The beginning,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some And by upgraded at quarterback, I
Speaker 3: don't mean moved on from Trey Lance. What I mean is,
Speaker 3: let me say that differently, by December of this season,
Speaker 3: they will have better quarterbacking than they had in December
Speaker 3: and January of last season. I think by the end
Speaker 3: of this year Trey Lance will be better than Jimmy
Speaker 3: Garoppolo was in that offense beginning of the year. I
Speaker 3: think it's going to be some growing pains. Getting Deebo
Speaker 3: under contract was massive. I floated on first things first
Speaker 3: on Wednesday. Could they be the team that adds Odell.
Speaker 3: They could use some speed there. I love their defense,
Speaker 3: I love their coaching staff, I love the athleticism at quarterback.
Speaker 3: I love that they got Deebo done. They don't have
Speaker 3: to deal with it. I really to me the nin
Speaker 3: we are overwhelmingly likely to have an NFC Championship Game
Speaker 3: rematch of Niners Rams, but this one where the Niners
Speaker 3: can go toe to toe it as far as making
Speaker 3: plays on offense with the Rams with what Trey Lance
Speaker 3: will be by at that point is eighteenth, nineteenth, twentieth
Speaker 3: career NFL start. So I think they are smart for
Speaker 3: moving on for Jimmy g. They were smart for paying
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel because he didn't want them to use him
Speaker 3: as a running back and for his wide receiver value
Speaker 3: to go down. Now he's protected from that, got fifty
Speaker 3: eight million bucks. I love the Niners this year. I
Speaker 3: love him even more if they're the team that adds
Speaker 3: Odell once he gets back from the need.
Speaker 4: Oh go ahead. What's Whatdell's real value these days?
Speaker 3: Well, it's a real question because he tore his ACL
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. He's got a bunch of injuries.
Speaker 3: But where he helped himself greatly was he got to
Speaker 3: the rams. Not only was he not a distraction, he
Speaker 3: was awesome in the NFC Championship game and he was
Speaker 3: on pace to maybe being Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4: So it was.
Speaker 3: Awesome in the Super Bowl until he got hurt. So
Speaker 3: I think he has real value if the team is
Speaker 3: a contender. I think the Niners are. I think Green
Speaker 3: Bay also makes a ton of sense for Odell, but
Speaker 3: I don't know that he wants to live in the
Speaker 3: cold in that small town, so I think the Niners
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. Will be right back.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in What's Right, Nick Wright, Episode forty two
Speaker 3: of the regular podcast, our final edition of the fifth
Speaker 3: Yeardest Players the last fifty years. Our special edition podcasts
Speaker 3: come out on Sunday, so be looking for that. But
Speaker 3: also on today's show, I think we have a real
Speaker 3: chance of turning Demon's turning this into the most financially
Speaker 3: and personally and well, I should say, financially and professionally
Speaker 3: profitable weeks of your life. Finanefully it already has been
Speaker 3: with the ten thousand, but we've got something in the
Speaker 3: fire segment of the show that I truly believe that
Speaker 3: if we get fans of the show, behind the great
Speaker 3: Fox social media team, behind the great people at Blue Duck,
Speaker 3: all the people involved in this podcast, I think you
Speaker 3: have a real shot of the taking may it would
Speaker 3: be it would take you potentially away from this podcast
Speaker 3: for a period of time, but it would be worth it.
Speaker 3: We will discuss that at the end of the show. However,
Speaker 3: right now we're begin to before we get to a
Speaker 3: new game. The guys have told me there's a new
Speaker 3: game we are debuting. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: Before we get to that, you guys want to show
Speaker 3: me an old tweet of mine, which I love to see,
Speaker 3: So go ahead.
Speaker 2: Fan of the show sent into the producers a cold take, tweeting.
Speaker 3: Ors Okay, where's it from?
Speaker 4: From twenty eleven?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's always a little dangerous.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, So I don't know if we're rolling the tweet,
Speaker 4: but I've got it right here.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, what is it?
Speaker 4: You've got a oh, there it is.
Speaker 3: Oh it's my top twelve of all time at that
Speaker 3: point in time.
Speaker 4: Yep. For those of you listen on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Is Jordan at number one, Russell at number two, Magic
Speaker 2: at three, Kareem at four, Wilt at five, Duncan at six,
Speaker 2: Kobe at seven, Bird at nine, Bird at eight, Bird
Speaker 2: at eight, sorry, Oscar at nine, Shock at ten, West
Speaker 2: at eleven Jary West okay, and then Lebron Lebron at
Speaker 2: number twelve, Lebron at number six twenty eleven.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 3: Okay, so people have been sending me this. First of all,
Speaker 3: great job by you recognizing that we have audio listeners,
Speaker 3: not just viewers, so you got to read out the tweet.
Speaker 3: I had forgotten that. Great job. People have been sending
Speaker 3: this to me as some type of taunt about my
Speaker 3: lack of consistency. All right, I actually think this shows
Speaker 3: amazing consistency over the last decade. So first let me
Speaker 3: address what is on its face two obvious errors. Two
Speaker 3: guys who have not played a game since twenty eleven
Speaker 3: moved up in the rankings. So how could that happened?
Speaker 3: So Kareem went from behind Jordan and Magic to ahead
Speaker 3: of both of them, and a Cheme went from behind
Speaker 3: Shack to ahead of him. Right, Okay, I think those
Speaker 3: are both incredibly easy to explain. And the answer is
Speaker 3: I was not as educated then as I am now.
Speaker 3: In twenty eleven, I wasn't efforting to write a book
Speaker 3: on this. I was doing it just from my own
Speaker 3: general thoughts feelings that if I'm being totally transparent on
Speaker 3: the Kareem's stuff in particular, I think was clouded immensely.
Speaker 3: And we can start the clock if we want, because
Speaker 3: I'm gonna spend a little bit of time on this immensely.
Speaker 3: From Bill Simmons opinions on Kareem and Bill Simmons he
Speaker 3: had written this great book, the Book of Basketbory, the
Speaker 3: seventy five Grace Players. Ever, and Bill has I would say,
Speaker 3: a saltier view of Kareem than certainly than I came
Speaker 3: to have, and I hadn't done my own independent research
Speaker 3: on it. So that's why I was as shocked as
Speaker 3: anybody that going into the project, I would have thought
Speaker 3: I would have had Kareem behind Magic and certainly behind Jordan.
Speaker 3: I was as shocked as anybody whin after I did
Speaker 3: the research, that's no longer the opinion I held. The
Speaker 3: Akeem take is very simple, and you can say I
Speaker 3: was indoctrinated somewhat, But this was before I had moved
Speaker 3: to and worked in Houston, and there was once I
Speaker 3: lived there, and there was such reverence for a Keem
Speaker 3: and my co host on the radio, John Lopez, who
Speaker 3: I greatly respect his basketball opinion. He actually thinks Wilt
Speaker 3: is the greatest player ever. But set that aside, and
Speaker 3: who covered that, said, Nick, if you got to look
Speaker 3: into a team outside of the two titles, he's like,
Speaker 3: you're just he goes. Once you do it, you're going
Speaker 3: to have a greater appreciation for him, which I did.
Speaker 3: I looked at it and I said, oh, I had
Speaker 3: underrated this guy. So that's the adjustments of the two
Speaker 3: guys who haven't played all the other guys. The order
Speaker 3: stays the exact same, So Russell, Wilt, Weston, Oscar not
Speaker 3: eligible for my list.
Speaker 4: But I have.
Speaker 3: I had a decade ago Duncan just ahead of Kobe.
Speaker 3: By the way, since then Duncan went to the finals
Speaker 3: twice more and won another title, further solidified himself out
Speaker 3: of Kobe. I had Kobe just ahead a bird. Kobe
Speaker 3: played a little bit since then, but didn't do anything substantial.
Speaker 3: I had, and I had Shack as the last guy
Speaker 3: in the in the grouping it all. One could also
Speaker 3: argue Nick on my I have what happens to Doctor
Speaker 3: J and Moses? Well, Doctor J and Moses would have
Speaker 3: been on the outside of this twelve if you will,
Speaker 3: if we had added Wilton, Oscar and Russell. If it
Speaker 3: wasn't the last fifty years, this is all time. Also,
Speaker 3: if I'm being honest, in twenty eleven, I don't think
Speaker 3: I knew as much about Doctor J and Moses as
Speaker 3: I do now. Then it comes to the lebron thing. Folks,
Speaker 3: send me this and say, oh went from outside of
Speaker 3: the top ten to number one.
Speaker 4: Goddamn rights the easiest one.
Speaker 3: He won four titles, won two more MVPs went to
Speaker 3: it went to nine more finals since I sent out
Speaker 3: this tweet. Guess what, America, if you send me my
Speaker 3: list that right now has Giannis outside of the top
Speaker 3: thirteen in a decade, and he's added four more rings,
Speaker 3: a couple more MVPs, and eight more finals trips, He's
Speaker 3: gonna have skyrocketing, right So what what would have been
Speaker 3: bad for me would have been if this list had
Speaker 3: no connection whatsoever to my current one. But really, with
Speaker 3: the only exception being I had underrated a couple big
Speaker 3: men from the seventies and eighties in Kareem and a Chem,
Speaker 3: I say I did well. And the other reason I
Speaker 3: love this tweet that it's being brought up is the following.
Speaker 3: It's alleged by some corners of the Internet that the
Speaker 3: Lebron stuff is like me playing a character. I'm trying
Speaker 3: to be the anti skip fs one told me to
Speaker 3: do it, And this is documentation that back when I
Speaker 3: was doing midday radio in Kansas City, right I was
Speaker 3: still hashtagging tweets with can't help my love for Lebron.
Speaker 3: So that's authentic all right. Time Now for a new game,
Speaker 3: what's the new game now?
Speaker 2: Hunter for NFL Hall of Fame enshrinment ceremonies this weekend.
Speaker 2: It's time for a new game.
Speaker 4: Called first Mid and Chill, not and chill with first
Speaker 4: Mid Chill.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got it. Hold on, before we even get
Speaker 3: to it, I understand this is a play on the
Speaker 3: game f Mary Kill. So we're calling it first mid Chill.
Speaker 4: But it actually makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: Except for the fact that I'm thirty seven years old
Speaker 3: and I would never call something mid.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I was thinking about it.
Speaker 3: That is, as soon as I'm like, I'm gonna cringe
Speaker 3: just thinking about it. That is as that is not
Speaker 3: in my parlance.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 3: The only in my whole life. The only way I've
Speaker 3: ever used mid in a sentence was as a teenager
Speaker 3: to describe a type of weed, like that's mid grade.
Speaker 3: Like okay, that's but I But young people these days use, oh,
Speaker 3: that's mid People send me like people respond to some
Speaker 3: of my takes on the show, They're like, mid take, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm like, mid take.
Speaker 4: Like, those are people you probably wouldn't I wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't, but I will because I do appreciate the
Speaker 3: turn of phrase of F Mary Kill. Turning into first
Speaker 3: mid Chill and even rhymes kill and chill all play along,
Speaker 3: but we might have to tweak the title at some point. Okay, go,
Speaker 3: so you're gonna so you're gonna get me three current players,
Speaker 3: and what's happening?
Speaker 4: Three current players?
Speaker 2: You'll tell me which one's the first ballot Hall of Famer,
Speaker 2: which one has a shot, and which one will not
Speaker 2: make it in Okay, And so for our first group
Speaker 2: of guys, we've got Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: Okay, I you know I'm on the record here. Josh
Speaker 3: Allen has earned my fear and respect. I will put
Speaker 3: him first. Lamar Jackson is the one that we will
Speaker 3: call mid again. I don't like it, and Kyler Chill Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would be. I would be shocked if Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: into his career and it's even a Hall of Fame's.
Speaker 4: Got no hope in this guy just because he's small.
Speaker 3: That is true. I don't like small athletes.
Speaker 4: I don't want Kyler Murray to well.
Speaker 3: And what's funny that I get that, and I'm not
Speaker 3: rooting against him. I just naturally lean towards bigger, stronger, faster,
Speaker 3: more powerful. It's just he's always a safer as well. No,
Speaker 3: that's true, No, no, no, he has the speed part of it.
Speaker 3: That part's true, and especially at that position. I just
Speaker 3: it's really hard for me to buy into it. But
Speaker 3: even if I didn't have my skepticism, Lamar has won
Speaker 3: a League MVP and won a playoff game. Josh Allen
Speaker 3: is a favorite to win League MVP this year, has
Speaker 3: won a couple of playoff games, and his most recent
Speaker 3: playoff loss, he played a nearly flawless game, just got
Speaker 3: beat by the Chiefs with ten seconds left. So crazy,
Speaker 3: And so it's not it's shade. You could really like
Speaker 3: Kyler and still have him third on.
Speaker 2: This list, all right, now number two? Justin Jefferson, Jamar
Speaker 2: Chase or Jalen Wattle.
Speaker 3: All right, this one's also very easy. And I think
Speaker 3: all three of these guys could be excellent players, and
Speaker 3: they have all had excellent production. But it's easy because
Speaker 3: one of them talent wise to me, is far and
Speaker 3: away the best, and one of them situation wise is
Speaker 3: in far and away the worst. So Jamar Chase is
Speaker 3: I will say first without a doubt. Like Jamar Chase,
Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much on him, but
Speaker 3: I would be surprised if he's not a Hall of
Speaker 3: Famer if he stays healthy. He Burrow had an amazing
Speaker 3: report in college. Jamar was so dominant in college he
Speaker 3: then sat out a year, still was a consensus top
Speaker 3: ten pick. And then I think you can argue that
Speaker 3: he is already the single best receiver in the league.
Speaker 3: I think you could argue he's better than Nuke, He's
Speaker 3: better than DeVante, better than Tyreek, better than Coup. I'm
Speaker 3: not saying definitively he is, but he has an argument
Speaker 3: for it. Justin Jefferson production wise with a Oka quarterback,
Speaker 3: and Kirk Cousins has been historically great production wise. I
Speaker 3: really like Jefferson. To me, he's second. He would be
Speaker 3: the mid category. By the way, I got a little
Speaker 3: text during the second from Gabe, our fearless executive producer,
Speaker 3: who is actually a little bit older than me, and
Speaker 3: he said he initially named this game first maybe Chill,
Speaker 3: and it was changed to mid by one of our
Speaker 3: gen Z producers. You think it was Nick Okay, you
Speaker 3: think it's Nick Winer. I thought it was Mos. That
Speaker 3: was my guess.
Speaker 4: If most of you a second really, I.
Speaker 3: Don't really know mos that Wellies just feels like the
Speaker 3: type of guy who's gonna be like, nah, Bro's mid.
Speaker 3: Like that's what I thought. So I'm gonna put Justin
Speaker 3: Jefferson in the mid category of this list, and Jalen Waddle,
Speaker 3: who had one hundred catches and put up numbers as
Speaker 3: a rookie that you have only been totally matched by Inkmbolden.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put him as chill because of his situation,
Speaker 3: because now not only is he not the focal point
Speaker 3: of the offense because Tyreek got there. More importantly, I
Speaker 3: think Jamar's got an excellent quarterback in Burrow. Jefferson. Jefferson's
Speaker 3: got a competent quarterback and Cousins, and I think Waddle's
Speaker 3: you know, got Tua who I think they're gonna be
Speaker 3: changing quarterbacks. I'm not a to a guy anymore. I was.
Speaker 3: I thought I said he should go number one in
Speaker 3: the draft over Burrow, and then I was just wrong
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 4: What did you say, switched up with you?
Speaker 3: No, that wasn't why he was because I watched him play.
Speaker 3: All right, what's last number three?
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor and Zeke Elliott, Oh all right.
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of these guys are gonna
Speaker 3: be Hall of Famers, but I'm gonna put Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 3: first because he's never suffered the major injury that Simac has,
Speaker 3: and his production the first two years are outstanding. He
Speaker 3: had almost two thousand yards last year. If he can
Speaker 3: stay healthy, why not. I'm gonna put Christian McCaffrey's second
Speaker 3: because I do think he has unbelievable ability, but the
Speaker 3: injury stuff concerns me, and I'm without a doubt putting
Speaker 3: Zeke last because Zeke's best days are clearly behind him.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna have any more Monster seasons
Speaker 3: and his production up to this point so his career
Speaker 3: is far closer to the end of than to the beginning,
Speaker 3: and he's not a Hall of Fame level player. Look
Speaker 3: like he was gonna be the first couple of years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: has not turned into that. What's sad is that we
Speaker 3: don't even include Saquon on these lists anymore because of
Speaker 3: all of his injuries. But there it is, first edition.
Speaker 3: I like the game. We can tweak the title. We
Speaker 3: come back. We make Demonse a movie star literally, that's
Speaker 3: what we do next. What's Right? All right? Welcome back
Speaker 3: in final segment, What's Right? Nick Right? The podcast, the
Speaker 3: YouTube show all the above, and Demonse is clearly the
Speaker 3: most favorite member of the podcast, as evidenced by you
Speaker 3: guys selling me out to help him win ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Demanse also is the most athletic member of the podcast
Speaker 3: and the tallest member of the podcast. Here's why I
Speaker 3: bring those things up, and we can start the clock
Speaker 3: because it's gonna be quick. Demanse, I think we have
Speaker 3: a real chance of making you a movie star. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: so I've talked to you about a little of this.
Speaker 3: I talked with you about this a little bit. But
Speaker 3: let's show the audience. This was posted yesterday. The hit
Speaker 3: show HBO Winning Time is seeking basketball players for the
Speaker 3: roles of Kurt Rambis. All right, that's a white dude,
Speaker 3: Mitch Cupcheck, that's a white dude. James Worthy, a very
Speaker 3: tall black guy who don't look like Robert Parrish, a
Speaker 3: very very tall black guy who you look nothing like.
Speaker 3: And Byron Scott, So more on that in a moment.
Speaker 3: But Byron Scott, I would say light skin side six four, Yeah,
Speaker 3: your six 's three and the and the what the
Speaker 3: requirements for this are no acting experience, must have basketball
Speaker 3: experience for Byron Scott obviously, I think has to look
Speaker 3: somewhat like Byron Scott. And they need you to be
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles from August to January for filming. They
Speaker 3: want your basketball experience sent in a face picture, a
Speaker 3: full body picture, and your basketball experience. So you played
Speaker 3: college basketball, you want to be in LA and you
Speaker 3: can be in LA. You are the right height and
Speaker 3: I don't know if we have any mockups we can
Speaker 3: show you, but I think Demands as Byron Scott absolutely
Speaker 3: look at this. I think that absolutely can play. I
Speaker 3: don't know where the screenshot's from, but you can. It works.
Speaker 4: The forehead area is the it's just the ears.
Speaker 3: Well. I don't think it has to be exact course.
Speaker 3: And you have a nice jump shot like he did.
Speaker 3: You're athletic like he was. I really think you could
Speaker 3: do this. Yeah, so we need our This is what
Speaker 3: all of my brilliant takes from today, set them aside.
Speaker 3: We need all of our social media and graphics team
Speaker 3: on basically a sizzle reel of why Demands should get
Speaker 3: this role. We need to put it out there. We
Speaker 3: need the What's right fans out there to tweet at
Speaker 3: winning time or at the producers at who's the guy
Speaker 3: who's the big producer for the show. Someone can say,
Speaker 3: in my ear, he's the guy that just got in
Speaker 3: the argument with Will Ferrell. Everybody knows Adam McKay. I
Speaker 3: think it's Adam McKay. We need you guys to tweet
Speaker 3: at Adam McKay. We need you guys to tweet at McKay.
Speaker 4: And I see retweet everything.
Speaker 3: What'd you say? I will retweet everything, You'll retweet everything.
Speaker 3: I'll read. Also, what you need to do is find
Speaker 3: your best headshot and your best full body length photo
Speaker 3: that shows I would say, your muscle tone, and will
Speaker 3: explain the athleticism via the you know, the basketball career.
Speaker 3: Maybe include a clip if you have one on your
Speaker 3: phone of you between the legs dunking or reverse dunking.
Speaker 3: Something cool, and we're gonna send it. I think you
Speaker 3: can get this gig.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's I think the requirements and.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jeff pearl Yeah, we need to add Pearlman to this.
Speaker 3: The person who sent out this tweet, Jeff Pearlman, I
Speaker 3: feel like there's got to be people of I think
Speaker 3: I've interviewed Jeff, I really think you can get this role. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it would be unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And then I love it.
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's not actual act. I don't know
Speaker 2: how much of it will be actually acting.
Speaker 3: Like, No, it's mostly for the basketball scene. And one
Speaker 3: of the things Winning Time has done well is those
Speaker 3: basketball scenes look really good. All right, So that's the goal.
Speaker 3: Between now and football season at least get demands a
Speaker 3: callback for the role of Byron Scott. And again, I
Speaker 3: don't think it's not a massive field of people you're
Speaker 3: gonna be competing with because they got to be at
Speaker 3: least six to two and they have to have high
Speaker 3: level basketball experience and in LA. So we're doing this.
Speaker 4: We're doing it, all right.
Speaker 3: Just so you know, the standard fee for someone getting
Speaker 3: you your first gig, and a gig like this happens
Speaker 3: to be exactly ten thousand dollars. So if you get
Speaker 3: this role, just make sure you hold on to that
Speaker 3: ten thousand that I gave you this week. You might
Speaker 3: have to transfer right back over.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: That's a deal that's committed that's binding. We'll talk to
Speaker 3: you guys on Sunday.