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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: all kinds of fun, show prep things like that. And

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Speaker 1: follows individually Clay Travis on Twitter, Buck Sexton on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Facebook. And I have some CRT thoughts to share

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Speaker 1: with all of you. It's an acronym now that I

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Speaker 1: feel like everyone pretty much knows critical race theory because

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Speaker 1: it's big in the headlines. There's a fellow named Christopher

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Speaker 1: Ruffo who in recent months has been pushing CRT out

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Speaker 1: into public view. That's really what this is. He just

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Speaker 1: finds places, institutions, schools, particularly schools these days. But it

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Speaker 1: has also been government trading seminars. I've interviewed Chris a

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Speaker 1: number of times, a very astute guy and now increasingly

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Speaker 1: a very brave guy because the Left is angry about

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Speaker 1: what's going on when it comes to CRT. They're upset

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Speaker 1: that the right is finally pushing back. The conservatives has

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Speaker 1: said enough of this racial Marxist madness. And so there

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of a dispute that broke out

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Where As Clay and I know these things

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Speaker 1: tend to happen on Twitter. You had Joy Read, who

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Speaker 1: is a female African American host at MSNBC, who had

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Speaker 1: a back and forth. World initially just was calling out Rufo,

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Speaker 1: and Rufo said, have me on your show. And now

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Speaker 1: I'm not reading the transcript here or anything, but you know,

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Speaker 1: he basically called around and said, it's it's cowardly to

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Speaker 1: on to explain myself. She initially claimed that this was

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Speaker 1: quote making white man demands and quote which was quite

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Speaker 1: a thing to say, and it turned out she decided

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Speaker 1: she would have him on. Here's how some of this

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Speaker 1: one this is Rufo making his case about the lies

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Speaker 1: she's told about him. When it comes to CRT, the

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Speaker 1: problem that I have is that you've really spread, for

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Speaker 1: I think, key false pieces of information about critical race theory.

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Speaker 1: You've claimed in recent weeks that critical race theory isn't

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Speaker 1: being taught in schools. You've claimed that most American public

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Speaker 1: school students learned what you call Confederate race theory and

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Speaker 1: are taught that slavery was quote not so bad. You've

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Speaker 1: claimed that state legislation will prevent schools from teaching about

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Speaker 1: the history of racism, and finally, you've claimed that critical

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Speaker 1: race theory isn't rooted in the philosophical tradition of Marxism.

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Speaker 1: And I think that all four of those claims are wrong.

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Speaker 1: Clay squared away here, mister Ruffo, what do you make

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Speaker 1: of it? I think it's great, and there's still a

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Speaker 1: lot of people out there, I think who are a

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Speaker 1: little bit confused as to what critical race theory are

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Speaker 1: and is, and I think he did a good job

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Speaker 1: of explaining it there. All of American history, buck as

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Speaker 1: everyone knows, is imperfect. We are not a perfect nation.

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Speaker 1: We are, I believe, as close to perfection as any

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Speaker 1: But we have flaws, and American kids should be taught

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Speaker 1: about both the successes and failures of American history. But

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Speaker 1: what we should not be teaching kids, and this is

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Speaker 1: what critical race theory does is that they are responsible

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Speaker 1: for things that happened hundreds of years ago. I'm not responsible,

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Speaker 1: Buck for slavery. You are not responsible for slavery. Certainly

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Speaker 1: a ten year old kid in elementary school in Iowa

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Speaker 1: is not responsible for some of the ills that have

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Speaker 1: existed in our country. And what is particularly galling to

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Speaker 1: me is the story of America is a story of progress.

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Speaker 1: It is a story of a democracy becoming more perfect

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Speaker 1: over time. The history of America is a proud one

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Speaker 1: feels like very much to me that what critical race

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Speaker 1: theory is repudiating is Martin Luther King and also the

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Speaker 1: civil rights movement, because the civil rights movement was a

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Speaker 1: uniquely American movement that predicated its moral authority on our

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Speaker 1: Declaration of Independence. If you study it, I would encourage

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Speaker 1: people out there. I'm a huge history buff Taylor Branch

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Speaker 1: wrote a great history of the civil rights movement, three

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Speaker 1: dividing us, canceling out our common American humanity. And I

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Speaker 1: the Left is really uncomfortable with this debate or feels

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Speaker 1: I mean, they want not only cultural Marxism, but they

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Speaker 1: want cultural hegemony. They want control of the American conversation

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Speaker 1: around well everything, but certainly around issues of race. And

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Speaker 1: that's where a critical race theory all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: a CRT expert. You're exaggerating. They do this to try

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Speaker 1: here's just an example of an exchange for that that

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Speaker 1: Manhattan Institute. He's a think tank scholar and Joy Read

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Speaker 1: MSNBC host on this issue. Listen closely to how they're

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Speaker 1: now trying to claim that we're not even really talking

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Speaker 1: What you're doing is you're playing a series of word games.

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Speaker 1: And I know that critical whiteness studies a solid field

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Speaker 1: of critical race theory. These things are all deeply into

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Speaker 1: Just you know, we didn't know who each other were,

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Speaker 1: It's just not really right to do that and let

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Speaker 1: not it's clay. Their argument is garbage. That's what this

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Speaker 1: of overrated. Hey you know the Holocaust, Oh, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: world history. But the lesson, certainly of American history, is

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Speaker 1: OutKick you can go read it got OutKick dot com

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Speaker 1: good argument Collite to your point. You know, there are

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Speaker 1: help the country be in a place where we are

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Speaker 1: protecting all We're protecting this country from the worst leftist ideas,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, eventually they'll destroy everything. But do you want

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Speaker 1: to look around? I mean, this is like Julius Caesar

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Speaker 1: in the Conquest of Gaul, right, he created a wasteland

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Speaker 1: and called it peace. We don't want that. It's the

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Speaker 1: Purge for people out there who've seen the Purge movies.

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Speaker 1: But it is a funny point, Russell, because there is

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Speaker 1: an argument out there that if we really wanted to

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Speaker 1: just create a laboratory to measure the true impact of police,

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Speaker 1: the way to do it would be, say, pick a

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Speaker 1: city for one week, there will be no police in

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Speaker 1: this city and see what would happen. And the results

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Speaker 1: would be such chaos and anarchy that the idea of

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Speaker 1: funding the police would disappear forever. Right, Like, there's this

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Speaker 1: hypothetical idea out there, Russell, Like, I think is what

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Speaker 1: you're kind of hitting at is that a lot of

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Speaker 1: times you don't see the work that the police do

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Speaker 1: because the absence of crime is difficult to contextualize, right.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that because there's been such a decrease

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Speaker 1: for so long, we're getting that kind people are getting

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Speaker 1: more used to. Well, maybe over policing is a problem.

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Speaker 1: Things have been so safe in my neighborhood, and they forget.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Democrats are in charge. Before

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Speaker 1: Democrats are in charge, they're promising free everything for everybody,

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Speaker 1: and enough people say to themselves, maybe they can give

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Speaker 1: us free everything. And then when Democrats run things and

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Speaker 1: very poorly and you realize that you're paying for it,

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Speaker 1: it's not free, then they start to see the reality

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Speaker 1: of the situations. Just like that with law enforcement. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting, buck, When I started practicing law,

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Speaker 1: A lot of times you don't realize business and the

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Speaker 1: impact of business until you become an adult. There's lots

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Speaker 1: of people out there who philosophically they think, oh, it

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Speaker 1: would be great if tax rates were x, and you know,

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Speaker 1: if we had all this free thing, and then you

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Speaker 1: start to actually learn the business side of things. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I've ran a business in OutKick and also, as a

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Speaker 1: young lawyer, I would see basically the way that government worked,

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Speaker 1: and when you're before you actually interact with government, it

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Speaker 1: can seem like it makes sense, and then you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the least efficient thing that

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Speaker 1: has ever existed in the history of mankind. And so

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Speaker 1: the idea of government growing when I was practicing law

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Speaker 1: started to terrify me. Yeah, the irs seems a lot

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Speaker 1: more scary when you've actually gone on audit. No, that's

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Speaker 1: the way this works. Let's get James and spokecan Washington

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Speaker 1: in the mixture. A lot of people want to talk

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Speaker 1: about the second madment. What's up, James? So libertarians have

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Speaker 1: a saying of I want people to be able to

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Speaker 1: defender crops. Well, actually, more sphasically, I want homosexuals crops

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Speaker 1: from the government with any ar fifteen. The idea of

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Speaker 1: taking guns away from people because you're going to make

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Speaker 1: them safer. And I haven't heard that libertarian phrase, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Yeah I haven't. Have you heard that libertarian phrase?

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Speaker 1: That one went over your head too, No, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty common one. Okaying away people's guns and

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Speaker 1: then terminating or deleting the entire police department in every

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Speaker 1: city in every state, and the sheriff's departments is kind

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Speaker 1: of insane, so you wouldn't put They want you to

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Speaker 1: put total faith in their ability to govern the uncovered. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think both of us have buck a lot of

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Speaker 1: libertarian leanings in terms of being in favor of individual freedom.

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Speaker 1: And I believe what we're going to see in the

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Speaker 1: wake of COVID is an entire generation of people who

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Speaker 1: hadn't really realized they were libertarians suddenly realizing they were

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Speaker 1: libertarians mask wearing. I think, and I hope, and I'm

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Speaker 1: an optimist. You may disagree. I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: make a lot of people say, I don't know necessarily

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Speaker 1: that I want this level of government interference. I just

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Speaker 1: I think of it as Conservatism is the party of liberty,

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Speaker 1: and so we shouldn't be seeding this notion of individual

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Speaker 1: liberty or being the champions of it to any any

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Speaker 1: other ideology. And that's also one of my great complaints

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Speaker 1: is that we have to refer to contemporary Democrat leftists

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Speaker 1: as liberals. They are the anti liberty party, and yet

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Speaker 1: they take this liberal nomenclature. And also they should be

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Speaker 1: the reds, not the blues, so to speak, because this

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Speaker 1: is just the network News decided in the seventies to

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Speaker 1: give colors random a signing of quote. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's actually so random. Clearly the Democrats should be the

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Speaker 1: red Party like communists and the Liberal they should be

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Speaker 1: called status or authoritarians, but at least refer to them

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Speaker 1: as Democrats and not really as liberals, although there is

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Speaker 1: some connotation to that. But we thank you very much

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Speaker 1: for calling in James from Spokane, Washingio. Clay. I just

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Speaker 1: had one thought, and then I know we've got to

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Speaker 1: start thinking about our our up lifting moment of the

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Speaker 1: day and some other things. They don't want to get

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Speaker 1: rid of all police. I mentioned the IRS before Biden

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Speaker 1: wants to add I think it's seventy thousand IRS agents forbid.

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Speaker 1: They want federal police because they want people with guns

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Speaker 1: taking orders from DC to be able to kick in

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Speaker 1: rooted Giuliani's door or you name it, anyone from a

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Speaker 1: Trump administration arrest them on some process nonsense. They want

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Speaker 1: to use the ATF to take guns from people and

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Speaker 1: lock them up because they have a ten round magazine

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Speaker 1: instead of a seven round magazine, as if that's going

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Speaker 1: to stop any crime. Always remember that they want the

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Speaker 1: force of the state. They just don't want your local

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Speaker 1: sheriff to be able to protect your rights and protect

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Speaker 1: your safety because that's not the way they view things well.

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Speaker 1: And even now the argument is already shifted from defund

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Speaker 1: the police to let's try to make it a gun

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Speaker 1: story why crime is rising, as opposed to acknowledging the

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Speaker 1: reason why crime is rising, which is because they defunded police.

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Speaker 1: It's the data. It speaks to us, it's not stupid.

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Speaker 1: From the tragedy of nine eleven, the Tunnels to Towers

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Speaker 1: heroes and their families with two hundred mortgage free homes

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Speaker 1: to honor the fallen chairman and TEO, Frank Siller walks

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Speaker 1: more than five hundred miles through six states and forty

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Speaker 1: Another first, the soldiers we lost in the War on

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Speaker 1: Terror are having their names read aloud the words never forget,

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Speaker 1: require action, do good, and take action. Now donate eleven

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show on the EIB Network walcome back in final

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Speaker 1: segment Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. By the way,

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Speaker 1: our caller buck Sexton got the phrase wrong. Many different

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Speaker 1: listeners have reached out to us. The phrase the libertarian phrase.

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Speaker 1: That is a cliche that a lot of people talk about.

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Speaker 1: They say they want gay, married couples to be able

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Speaker 1: to protect their marijuana plants with guns, the full extreme

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Speaker 1: of individual freedom. What our caller said did not make

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Speaker 1: any sense compared to that, but that appreciate him though,

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Speaker 1: bringing to our attention, I did not I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say I didn't know the AR fifteen, the AAR fifteen

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Speaker 1: gay guy phrase that he was using. This one is

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Speaker 1: the accurate one that I just read. That's a popular

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Speaker 1: T shirt with libertarian leaning individuals out there. Want to

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Speaker 1: remind everybody to follow us on social media if you're

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Speaker 1: not already on Facebook. I feel like this audience, We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of people on Facebook, Twitter, you know

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Speaker 1: some Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton, and then of course Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck is the handle for the show. We put

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Speaker 1: out clips and fun things from the show all day

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Speaker 1: and you should give us a well, we've got actually

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Speaker 1: lines lit today. We'll have to take some calls tomorrow

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Speaker 1: in addition to this, because so many people wanted to

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Speaker 1: get and we love hearing from all of you. Can

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Speaker 1: I just can I tease a tease here, Clay for

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Speaker 1: one second tease of a tease, which is that we're

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Speaker 1: hoping to have a really cool, fun announcement for everybody

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Speaker 1: that will occur next week, but for right now, I

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Speaker 1: know I'm keeping it super vague, but see I'm x

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Speaker 1: Cia Clay, so I can neither confirm nor deny. I'm

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Speaker 1: used to the super vague. Yeah, I saw they heard

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Speaker 1: the clips. They've got a CI agent, a lawyer. That

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Speaker 1: probably makes people think, my god, why am I listening

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Speaker 1: to this show. This is where all the former CIA

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Speaker 1: people listening are like, it's CIA officer Buck, and I know,

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Speaker 1: I know we'll change that. I promise I'll get notes

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Speaker 1: about that from all of them in a second man

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Speaker 1: in secret notes of course. Max. Well, that's that's how

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Speaker 1: we do it in the invisible ink. Yeah, in a

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Speaker 1: little capsule given to me by guy named Yuri from

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Speaker 1: the microfilm. Anyway, that's how it wasn't the old movies,

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Speaker 1: the old spy movies back in the day, Max in Ohio,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling in playing Buck. You guys

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Speaker 1: are doing awesome, and keep it up. I'll be here

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Speaker 1: to listen to you every day for years to come.

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Speaker 1: I'll be real quick. So I just want to weigh

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Speaker 1: in on all this attack on the Second Amendment. And

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Speaker 1: this is to all the Democrats and liberals if you're

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Speaker 1: a listener, and I hope you hear this, the Constitution

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Speaker 1: is a formality. Those are rights given to all of

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Speaker 1: us at birth. If you want to attack it, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: but it will never ever go anywhere, and the founding

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Speaker 1: fathers made sure to give us specific duties to the

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Speaker 1: ones who decide to even try to attempt to take

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Speaker 1: it shall not be infringed. Period. There you go. It's

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Speaker 1: a good almost final call. I think we got time

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Speaker 1: to get to more calls. Do we have time to

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Speaker 1: get a couple more people in here? Let's can we take?

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Speaker 1: Can we take? Kim in Asheville, North Carolina? Great town?

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Speaker 1: My brother, my brother wrote out some of the pandemic

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Speaker 1: in Asheville. Actually, one of my brother I got you brothers.

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Speaker 1: He loved it. It's a good town, beautiful town. What's

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Speaker 1: going on? Kim? Hello, jis. I just want to come

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Speaker 1: on tell y'all thank you for the y'all have you doing.

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Speaker 1: I consider you Olie, see you worker, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for you sir well, thank you. We consider you an

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Speaker 1: essential listener. Kim, so thank you so much. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've really enjoyed your show, and we're really

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Speaker 1: looking forward to here. No. I just wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: up a thing what's going on down here in North

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Speaker 1: Carolina that we're really putting a big push elm, that

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Speaker 1: we're we were doing pretty good too, of course with

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Speaker 1: grass when socists got a hold of it. We're trying

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Speaker 1: to do county by county to a second called second

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Speaker 1: Sanctuary Cities by county, and we rolls here in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: I can say everybody's found that our secret eric commissioners here.

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Speaker 1: We've got seven on the board commissioners. Six of them

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Speaker 1: are Democrats. And it's just you know, if you were

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Speaker 1: for anything Second Amendment right year nine and you're going

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Speaker 1: to hale. That's just how there is too. That's amazing

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Speaker 1: that that could happen in a state like North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: We've got to have Clay. We should talk more about

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Speaker 1: this because I have this idea that I've talked to

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Speaker 1: other conservatives about. We just have to start picking some

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Speaker 1: cities and take an ice and oh my god, we

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Speaker 1: are colonists. There is the right buck we've as conservatives.

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