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Speaker 1: What is Up?

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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. As you can see, we are joined by

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Speaker 2: writer MLB insider for fan Sided Robert Murray, gonna join us,

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Speaker 2: talk to us a little bit about the MLB trade

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Speaker 2: deadline as a whole, but also what the Mets could

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Speaker 2: be looking to do, what he's been hearing, what he's

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Speaker 2: been seeing. All stuff that you need for an MLB

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Speaker 1: How's it going? How's the trade deadline season treated you

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Speaker 3: It has been, you know, first of all, thank you

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Speaker 3: for having me on. I appreciate it's been. It's been

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Speaker 3: pretty active. The Dever's trade definitely caught me off guard

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Speaker 3: when when that happened. Was thankful enough to be breaking

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Speaker 3: So it's been it's been busy, but it's the calm

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Speaker 3: but I think once the end of the month gets here,

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Speaker 3: I am not gonna be running. I'm much sleep at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna have coffee and and vibes just running

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Speaker 4: Yeah, trade deadline feels like the Super Bowl for the

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Speaker 4: inside their of any sport. It's definitely the hot time

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Speaker 4: of year. So there's been a lot of rumors going

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Speaker 4: around about some teams buying, some team selling. Is there

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Speaker 4: one player you can give us just to start this

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Speaker 4: up that maybe some people aren't talking about bigger name

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Speaker 3: That's a great question, and I have been asking around

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Speaker 3: sees like a true, like elite name going like Devers

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Speaker 3: Stephen Kwan couldn't up making some sense here. If the

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Speaker 3: You've seen them in years past where they've sold guys before,

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Speaker 3: there's not like really that many great names available, I

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that many that many people connect him

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Speaker 3: And if they can flip Kintana and shed that salary,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Brewers just have what like nine major league

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Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do for you, Robers, We're gonna give

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Speaker 3: And there's so many like great, there's so many relievers

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Speaker 4: All right, Robert the next one Byron Buckston is the Twins.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be moved either. No,

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Speaker 3: Like that was just that's one of those rumors that starts.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's hit you with another guy then,

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Speaker 2: because we heard this rumor coming out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be moved. Yeah, I think there's

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Speaker 3: don't think it's San Diego. I could be wrong. Betting

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Speaker 4: Another one, another reliever. You mentioned some relievers before, Ryan

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Speaker 3: They did not because they view this as a retooling season,

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Speaker 3: exceeding expectations. I think shedding guys who are on expiring

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Speaker 3: don't He seems like the guy that the Cardinals should trade,

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Speaker 2: Last guy of the five, La Ponterra. Do the White

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Speaker 3: No, Wow. I thought he's just too low. The value

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Speaker 3: I mean they would be selling really really really low.

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Speaker 3: So my guess is he stays. They try to extract

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Speaker 3: I also think Samuel Contract probably stays, is my guest.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he skips coming back down to Earth

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Speaker 4: and has like gone straight through the crust of the Earth,

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Speaker 4: the last few months. But with the deadline not being sexy,

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Speaker 4: they don't actually have any players to sell that any

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Speaker 4: the scope of this deadline a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's the Diamondbacks for sure. Like if they decided

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Speaker 3: I mean, they don't have much bullpen available anymore, considering

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Playing off that bigger picture on the Mets deadline, Like

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Speaker 4: So I would imagine the top prospects probably stay. I'd

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Speaker 4: And I mean, hey, I mean you got that right

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Speaker 3: We're saying the word sexy a lot on this podcast,

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Speaker 2: So at least now our comments section will get off

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Speaker 3: No, hey, I'm glad to take the pressure off you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I absolutely believe that's the case. I think

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Speaker 4: It feels like that scenario is kind of unfolded the

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Speaker 3: Royals are going to be a team that's going to

435
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Speaker 3: be having plenty of conversations. It's not going to be

436
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 3: like a crazy sell off by them if they do sell,

437
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 3: But they have the pieces, especially on on the pitching side,

438
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,360
Speaker 3: where in such a because you ask around the league,

439
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 3: there's just not that many like great pitchers that are

440
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 3: going to be available, and there's almost every contending team

441
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 3: is saying the same thing, like we want pitching. But

442
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 3: I just, yeah, I don't know who exactly is going

443
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 3: to be the big guy it's going to be moved,

444
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 3: but Lugo is going to make a lot of sense.

445
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 3: Waka could make some sense too, although it's kind of

446
00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 3: struggled this year as well. I thought maybe Chris Saale

447
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 3: despite the injury, could be a kind of kind of

448
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Speaker 3: a candidate. But I heard pretty strong with yesterday that

449
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Speaker 3: they're not going to move him. They're not even going

450
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Speaker 3: to consider moving him or any guys that are controllably

451
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Speaker 3: on twenty twenty five. So it's no, they just they

452
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Speaker 3: do not want to move. They want to They want

453
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Speaker 3: to like win.

454
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Speaker 2: Six, so Zuna that means is probably available then I

455
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Speaker 2: would imagine it, right.

456
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Speaker 3: But he's got ten to five rights. I think that's

457
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 3: something we got to keep in the back of our

458
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Speaker 3: minds here.

459
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Speaker 2: And then the other one is Sean Murphy because obviously,

460
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Speaker 2: with Drake Baldwin playing so well, I'm assuming they want

461
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Speaker 2: to keep him too then.

462
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Speaker 1: Because he's got multiple years.

463
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Speaker 2: But we also know the contracts probably something they wouldn't

464
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Speaker 2: hate moving off of.

465
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Speaker 3: I feel pretty strong that they're not gonna move Murphy.

466
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought there could be This is my

467
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Speaker 3: own speculation, but of course Potter is needed catcher, and

468
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Speaker 3: I thought to myself, you know what, I could see

469
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Speaker 3: Probaber trying to swing big and just trying to go

470
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Speaker 3: on and get Sean Murphy. But I don't even think

471
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Speaker 3: he's the opportunity to do so, so I would. I

472
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Speaker 3: would be flat out stunned, I promise some people. Actually

473
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Speaker 3: on the podcast of my own The Baseball Insiders, I said,

474
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Speaker 3: if the Braves trade Sean Murphy, I would actually get

475
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Speaker 3: another dog. So oh okay, yeah, and so that that's

476
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Speaker 3: how strongly I feel about that.

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Speaker 4: There's a there's another picture in the National League. Set's

502
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Speaker 4: getting some trade rumors. A favorite of mine who Mark

503
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 4: chooses not to trust, but I'm begging him to believe

504
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: this time, Edward Cabrera on the Marlins. He does have

505
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: some team control. But as we saw last deadline, if

506
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: you just call the Marlins and make it offer, they

507
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 4: like they don't care about tea control. They'll they'll trade

508
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Speaker 4: anything that it's not nailed down to the floor. Is

509
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: he someone that's actually available in the deadline.

510
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: I think he can be had for sure. The price

511
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Speaker 3: is going to be a lot because he's a very

512
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Speaker 3: talented guy. But the Marlins only have two like truly

513
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: untouchables on that roster. It's Augustine Ramirez and Urie Perez,

514
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 3: and the rest of the guys will listen on and

515
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Speaker 3: they'll see exactly what they can get I wouldn't. I

516
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Speaker 3: don't necessarily, I wouldn't say that they're shopping Cabrera by

517
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Speaker 3: any means, like they're just listening. I think that's what

518
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: ninety nine point nine percent of players their situations are

519
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 3: right now. But knowing how Peter Bendix operates, I would

520
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: imagine probably a fair shot he's going to be moved.

521
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 3: I just don't know when or where, but I think

522
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: there's a fair shot or a fair shot of that happening.

523
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: Has there been any noise around not necessarily the prospects

524
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: for the Mets, because we know what David Surtins does there,

525
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: but with the major league ish ready players, guys like

526
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 2: Viento's Baty Mauriso, is kind of a group of guys

527
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: right now that are all vying for one to two

528
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: ish similarist positions. Some guys are playing well, some guys

529
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: are playing poorly. That's a name that a lot of

530
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: Mets fans think one of those.

531
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Speaker 1: Three could be moved to the deadline. Anything on that, I.

532
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Speaker 3: Can't say I've heard anything along those lines, at least

533
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: not as of this point. One thing that Stearns does

534
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: is he keeps a pretty tight ship with the Mets,

535
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: but that being said, like Vantos was really strong last year,

536
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: and those numbers aren't the same as they were this

537
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: year as they were last year. But if you're a team,

538
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: you can see obviously if he gets a consistent playing time,

539
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: he can be a very useful player for you. He

540
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: can hit for power. Obviously, a highly regarded player coming

541
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: up through the minor league system, so I could see

542
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: some teams being very enticed by him for sure. Okay,

543
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: I thought that was a I thought it was a

544
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: different texts almost almost got live news, but that was

545
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: not actually news.

546
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: I always think, I love to watch you write the

547
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Speaker 4: tweet live.

548
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 3: Yes, no, that'd be crazy. I mean it's happened before,

549
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: and I mean that'd be pretty cool. It wouldn't have

550
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: been Mets related. I can tell you that.

551
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you are relatively young in the

552
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: insider game. What is what is your favorite piece of

553
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 4: news that you've broken over the last couple of years.

554
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I would say Devers is not my current, like

555
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: new favorite, Like breaking that trade was gener rush that was.

556
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: That was like it wasn't but it was the closest

557
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: thing that we've had I feel like in baseball to

558
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: like the Luca Trade where it's just like what this

559
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 2: guy like there now way.

560
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was crazy and I'll take it

561
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 3: through it. It's all of a sudden. It's like I'm

562
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: sitting on my couch, pat my dog and I was

563
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 3: just watching baseball, doing my thing. And then next thing

564
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: I know, it's like I get a call and I

565
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 3: start talking to the guy and and he's he says like, bro,

566
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: like shut up, and I'm like, oh crap, like what's

567
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: going on here? And he said that Devers was being

568
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: traded to the Giants for Kyle Harrison, Hicks and more.

569
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 3: And I'm like there's no way, and I text somebody

570
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, it's legit. I'm like I got

571
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: to call one more. This is too big of a scook,

572
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: like really, And I call and there's silence on the

573
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Speaker 3: end of the phone. He's like yeah. I'm like you're

574
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: like I asked him five times. I'm like, this is legit.

575
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna look Stupid's like

576
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: it's one hundred percent, Like I don't know how you

577
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: found out, but it's right. And I tweeted and next

578
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Speaker 3: thing I know, like my phone just stops working and

579
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 3: the one text that I can remember, can I can

580
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: I swear on here? Yeah? Yeah, okay, Like I all

581
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I get a text from Jeff Passing

582
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: and it just says holy fuck, and it was like

583
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 3: it was crazy. It took like ten minutes for everyone

584
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: to get everyone to have it confirmed. But it was

585
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: on Father's Day and my dad a huge Giants fan too,

586
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: so that was really cool. So I talked to him

587
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: after it all settled down, Like the adrenaline of that

588
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: entire thing was crazy. So that's been my favorite to tease.

589
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: His extension was a lot of fun. Jackson Merrill one.

590
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: I knew about it for thirty six hours before I

591
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: broke it, so I had I had to sweat that

592
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: one pretty hard. But it's there's been There's been some

593
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: fun ones for sure.

594
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: So what happens on those kind of deal is like

595
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: when you know for thirty six hours someone's just telling

596
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: you you need to wait, and that's basically like you're

597
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: not trying to like fuck their stuff up, basically exactly.

598
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you got to maintain the relationship and

599
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: if you get scooped like it happens, and that's happened

600
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 3: to me before I had the Logan web extension. I

601
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: knew that one for about twenty four hours and I

602
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: thought I was going to break that and then the

603
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: team just announce it for right under me. But it is, uh,

604
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: it's a relationship driven game. It's a lot of fun.

605
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: It's it's also a lot of work and it's stressful.

606
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: But I can't imagine doing anything else because, like breaking

607
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: a big story like breaking the Devors trade is like

608
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: it's like the best feeling in entire world.

609
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: Like, like James was calling my phone. I was in

610
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: the car coming back from like a family party.

611
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: Father.

612
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Father's Day, coming back from like a

613
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: father's dy thing, and my phone's ringing NonStop, NonStop, and

614
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm just like, i'll call him later, and he's like,

615
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: you need to look at Twitter right now.

616
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: And we're looking at like whoa, whoa Ralphie Old Devers.

617
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

618
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: It was bonkers And I'm not kidding you. I had

619
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: it was right after I broke it. I had Faby

620
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: in our diet, who is the Dodgers be writer for

621
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: the Athletic one of my like really close friends in baseball.

622
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: He was in the in the press box it was

623
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: Dodgers Giants and he saw me tweeted He's like, bro,

624
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: are you hacked? Like every one of the press boxes wondering,

625
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: and I'm like no, like this is this is happening,

626
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 3: this is real. And all of a sudden, Harrison got

627
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: pulled out of the bullpen and told that he got

628
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: traded him and it was just overall it was just

629
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: complete madness. So a lot of fun. But man, I

630
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Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna have one of the deadline

631
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: quite like this one.

632
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 4: How's your poker face when you're sitting on news like that,

633
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: like saying you go to sit in those extensions for

634
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 4: thirty six twenty four hours, like you get people like

635
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: creeping through the woods, like trying to pick your brain,

636
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: trying to.

637
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: See if they can get a toe off you. Yeah,

638
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: it's like, thankfully none of those have happened, like in

639
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: a big crowd of people. So I was grossed. I've

640
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: been very luckily, very lucky to be home and just

641
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: chilling with friends. But my friends they can see that

642
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm stressing because I have like the worst poker face

643
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: in the history of Parker. I cannot I cannot hide

644
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: it and what are you holding onto? And I had

645
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 3: my I had my best friend visiting me in town

646
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: in Arizona when I had the Meryl thing, and he knew,

647
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: like I told him what was going on, and we

648
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: were sweating it together. And yeah, it was almost like

649
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: it was told. I was told I could break it

650
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: at this time. I could break it at this time.

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Speaker 3: and then they called me, called me at midnight, woke

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Speaker 3: me up and was like, no, you can't tweet it

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Speaker 3: till six. I'm just like, oh my goodness, this is terrible.

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Speaker 3: But no, it's it's a crazy game, but it's it's fun.

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Speaker 3: It is a lot of fun. And at this point

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Speaker 3: it's it's just it's a good time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, it sounds sounds awesome. Robert.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on talking about the MLB trade

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Speaker 2: deadline with us. We appreciate it. Let everybody know where

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Speaker 2: they can follow you and also talk about a little

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Speaker 2: bit about your podcast, The Baseball Insiders as well.

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Speaker 3: No, I appreciate it. You can follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 3: at by Robert Murray. I break my news there. I'll

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Speaker 3: write stories and share them on there as well. The

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Speaker 3: Baseball Insiders is the podcast I've done for a couple

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Speaker 3: of years now, something I'm super passionate about where I've

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Speaker 3: actually broken news on there, which is always a lot

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Speaker 3: of fun. So I'll sure unload my notebook as well,

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Speaker 3: So make sure to tune into that and find me

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Speaker 3: on fansted dot com. But I really appreciate you boys

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Speaker 3: having me on. This was an absolute blast and you

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Speaker 3: guys do a great job. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you ye no appreciate having you on. Guys.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening and watching. Make sure

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google drops the rate and drops review,

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Speaker 2: at James Chiano and I'm draftneckmark with a C. Thank

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Speaker 2: you guys for listening and watching. We will catch you

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Speaker 2: all after the Royal series all start break peace out

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Speaker 2: that guys.

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Speaker 5: And then.

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Speaker 6: And then

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