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Speaker 1: choices out there. Fun Today, Tony Grossi, who was I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, virtually attacked my Shador Sanders after that

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Speaker 1: Hocky season game. Tony Grossy has the courage to not

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Speaker 1: our show today. I'm here to the fan America's journalist

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Speaker 1: Tony Grosy calling it like he sees it. Hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you basically need.

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Speaker 4: A bodyguard at this point. I mean, witness if you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of dramas. So it is interesting when

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Speaker 1: I show up for work in the morning, what's on

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Speaker 1: my desk? And this was interesting. It was the the

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Speaker 1: PFF grades for preseason Week one rookie quarterbacks. Oh look,

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Speaker 1: Schador Sanders according to PFF, easily the highest credited quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart was good, Jalen Milroe, cam Ward struggled, Tyler

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Speaker 1: exactly what you saw. This is what we will of

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Speaker 1: all guessed. Right. Jackson Dart better than I thought. Schador

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Speaker 1: looked like he did in college. But here's the other thing,

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Speaker 1: to grow up, and maybe he never will. But you

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Speaker 1: could argue of all the rookie quarterbacks, he was throwing

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Speaker 1: to the weakest receiving corps. This morning, I went and

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Speaker 1: found the ten guys who made a catch for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns in this game. Eight are undrafted. One of

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Speaker 1: them is sal Kanella, who honestly is my favorite Sopranos character. Ever,

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Speaker 1: one of them is toa Tua Jamari Thrash. Now I

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Speaker 1: remember James Thrash, no relation to Jamari Thrash. Gauge Larva

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Speaker 1: Dan Larva Dan I thought was a headache medication. The

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Speaker 1: this is what he did, with the exception of Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 1: This is what he did at Colorado. He had to

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Speaker 1: And when I looked at that receiving car this morning,

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Speaker 1: the opposite of JJ McCarthy's experience when he was at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: had a very comfortable college experience, and he has struggled

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Speaker 1: Sanders may have had a famous dad, but basically he

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Speaker 1: There's no question Miles Garrett got a speeding ticket. He can.

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Speaker 1: He's arguably the best player in football. Shure Sanders, a

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Speaker 1: For the record, Shador Sanders today injured his oblique at practice.

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Speaker 1: the other part of the best football dynasty of my

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Speaker 6: Said, it's winning the game, and we have winners, and

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's been fun so far. So again, the

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Speaker 1: That's the Moss Brady Space, five and five AFC championships,

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Speaker 1: it just you're not going to do another twenty year dynasty.

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Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen with the division that good.

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Speaker 1: By the way Brady was, I was almost right. Brady

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Speaker 1: was thirty and three against the Bills. And by the

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Speaker 1: way Mahomes is like thirty five and five against his division.

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Speaker 1: That's not going to remain the same of the next

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Speaker 1: forty games. He's not winning thirty five. I'd be surprised

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Speaker 1: But the Bills were dysfunctional, the Dolphins are always average,

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Speaker 1: and the Jets were mostly dysfunctional. And that's not a knock.

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Speaker 1: But remember when years ago the Colts were in the

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Speaker 1: he may only win half as many divisions of Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning and his primes in that division. So it's like

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Sean Payton. It did help. They were

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Speaker 1: and Saban nobody in the SEC. All the powerhouse is

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee is the Georgia's. They couldn't get their coaches right,

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Speaker 8: I'm the producer of the Paul and Toni Fusco Show.

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Speaker 3: Matt Stafford, Colin, we've been waiting for Matt Stafford to return,

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Speaker 2: On his new lid. No, I'm trying to change.

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Speaker 1: He'll roast anybody at every position in the NFL. There's

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Speaker 1: like four people that are different. I mean quarterback receiver,

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Speaker 1: Pashwasher and Terry or Lineman. AJ Brown's one of the

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Speaker 1: four that's different. I would say Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown, and you can you know, you can put

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Speaker 1: number four whoever you want.

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Speaker 4: So it's funny.

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Speaker 3: Remember AJ Brown was starring on the Tennessee Titans before

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Speaker 3: their GM shocked everybody by trading him.

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Speaker 2: How pissed was Mike Grabel.

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Speaker 3: He ended up leaving the Titans like he was just like, you.

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Speaker 1: Can't, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Give it away? Aj Brown? It's guy's a game changer Colins.

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Speaker 3: Since he got to Philly, they have made the jump

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Speaker 3: to I mean absolute superstar team.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts has a great unit around it.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate calling AJ Brown the best receiver in

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Speaker 3: the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I get it. Justin Jefferson Chase, but Brown's right there

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Speaker 4: with him. It's really close.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say yes? I would say that. Jmck of

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Speaker 1: the news, Well, that's the news.

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Speaker 2: And thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: So I'm all fired up. We're a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: away from the biggest college football game over Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 1: I ever remember it is going to be Texas at

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. I think Texas plays Penn State for the

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Speaker 1: national Championship. My guess is Alabama Georgia Ohio State are

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Speaker 1: probably the third best team in the country. Notre Dame's

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Speaker 1: really good, so it's Oregon. But I saw an article

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Speaker 1: this morning and it's like the this is being intimated.

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Speaker 1: Is Texas college Football's new Alabama? A boy So Georgia

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Speaker 1: was the new Alabama for about four years until the

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Speaker 1: nil took off, where sec tough, physical, defensive head coach,

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Speaker 1: multiple Natties. Georgia was the new Alabama. Texas. My entire

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Speaker 1: life has been USC in cowboy hats as good looking,

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Speaker 1: a lot of style, a lot of vibe, a lot

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Speaker 1: of energy. Coach always makes a lot of money. Cool stadium,

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Speaker 1: cool city. Where are the Natties? So Texas and USC played,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, the most memorable college football game two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five Rose Bowl. I was at it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. It's the best looking crowd in the

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Speaker 1: history at college football, even in a very busy city

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Speaker 1: full of glamour like LA. It was the coolest thing

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Speaker 1: in LA for months. And I love Texas football and

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Speaker 1: I didn't go there. I don't understand why I love

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Speaker 1: Texas football, but it's something you can love without living there.

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Speaker 1: It's cool. They passed the eye test. They have most

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Speaker 1: of my life. But they're not Alabama. They're not gritty,

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Speaker 1: right Like Texas is the prom king. He's the coolest

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Speaker 1: guy in school. He may be the best looking guy

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Speaker 1: in school. He's the prom king. Alabama was like the

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Speaker 1: best wrestler in your high school, like you know, didn't

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Speaker 1: always look good in clothes, but nobody wanted to mess

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Speaker 1: with him. Didn't have the coolest car, was never really

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Speaker 1: the coolest. The quarterback was, so nobody's afraid of the

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Speaker 1: prom king. And that's the problem. Alabama intimidated you. Georgia

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Speaker 1: intimidated you. USC. Texas they create envy, they got money,

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Speaker 1: but Bama was on o line, run game, toughness, linebackers,

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Speaker 1: fundamental overflash. Texas is always like USC. They're good teams,

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Speaker 1: always have a lot of flash. I mean, you go

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Speaker 1: back to the USC dynasty, and most people would say

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Speaker 1: two words, Reggie Bush, right, Like that's what you would say.

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Speaker 1: So Sark can coach, Sark is big money Sark and recruit.

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Speaker 1: But do you trust Texas in a big spot if

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Speaker 1: they're playing a hyper physical SEC team or like one

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Speaker 1: you know in Ohio State or a Notre Dame tough

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Speaker 1: physical team, do you trust them? I don't. I mean

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Speaker 1: I may be a USC honk, I don't trust them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it's drizzling, you won't get their a game?

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Speaker 1: Do you will not get USC's a game if it's

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Speaker 1: overcast and there's a light drizzle in the second quarter?

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Speaker 1: And I kind of feel like Texas has always been

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Speaker 1: USC and cowboy hats. Here's Sark on their preseason number

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Speaker 1: one ranking.

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Speaker 9: It really doesn't matter. That's how I drowned it out.

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Speaker 9: I tell the guys exactly that, like, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 9: It's irrelevant to the to the way the season is

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Speaker 9: going to go. It's irrelevant to the way we're gonna play.

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Speaker 9: It's irrelevant to how our opponents are going to play.

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Speaker 9: Maybe it puts a little bigger bulls eye on us

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Speaker 9: for our opponents, but the reality is we have to

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Speaker 9: go do it right. We have to perform, and we

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Speaker 9: have to perform at a high level over time and

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Speaker 9: time and time again.

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Speaker 1: And part of it is I've told this story before

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Speaker 1: when I used to cover Oregon football. Auson Stadium was

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Speaker 1: old and tickets were not that expensive, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden they built a beautiful stadium. It got

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Speaker 1: more expensive and the crowd got quieter, right like it

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Speaker 1: was more. It was more bougie. And there is something

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Speaker 1: to be said about grit, you know, like they're not

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Speaker 1: change in Michigan Stadium, Alabama, Georgia. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame has done a good job.

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Speaker 1: Like Notre Dame is like tough and physical, and even

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Speaker 1: with Brian Kelly's last couple of years, they go against

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Speaker 1: Georgia and there are a lot of good linebackers and

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Speaker 1: offensive line. College football, to me, the three programs that

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Speaker 1: have always been sort of like Rodeo Drive, Miami Hurricanes,

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Speaker 1: Texas Longhorns, and USC. I think the sport is better

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Speaker 1: when they're all good, and they rarely have been simultaneously.

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Speaker 1: But to me, they don't feel the same as like

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. That's why I'm so fascinated with USC

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Speaker 1: going to the Big Ten, Oregon and Washington going to

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. They play crappy weather all the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those states don't have any great high school players.

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Speaker 1: I mean of Oregon and Washington, they have to work

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Speaker 1: hard to go get players out of state. USC football

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Speaker 1: and Texas football they're pretty and Pete Carroll briefly made

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Speaker 1: them really tough and really physical. And Sark didn't, Lane

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Speaker 1: Kefvin didn't, Lincoln Riley hasn't, Clay Helton didn't. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: they can't coach, doesn't mean they're not good coaches. But

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Speaker 1: there is something about USC and Texas in these big

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Speaker 1: spots against tough, physical teams. I trusted the Pete Carroll teams.

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Speaker 1: I haven't since. I'm telling you, if it's raining, they

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Speaker 1: don't feel like the same team. And I feel a

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Speaker 1: little at with Texas. It is a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: and a lot of sizzle and a lot of flash.

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Speaker 1: Bama doesn't worry about that. Georgia didn't worry about that.

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Speaker 1: This is my take.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Eastern, not a Empacific tonight.

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Speaker 3: It's a Battle in the NL East has the Braves

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Speaker 3: take on Juan Soto, Francisco Lindoor and the rival Mets

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Speaker 3: at seven pm Eastern on FS one.

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Speaker 1: Braves disappointing year Mary k Cabot a lot of Cleveland discussion.

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Speaker 1: She's an excellent journalist. Another excellent journalist, Tony Grossi on

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Speaker 1: the show. Later virtually attacked by Shadur after that Week

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Speaker 1: one performance, Mary kay Cabot says Shadeur suffering an oblique

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Speaker 1: injury early in the throwing drills, Dylan Gabriel is a

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Speaker 1: good bet to start Saturday against the Eagles, so that,

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Speaker 1: you know, would seem to indicate we will now have

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Speaker 1: a start by Shaduur, which was excellent, and to start

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Speaker 1: by Dylan Gabriel. And I'm no litigator, but there is

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Speaker 1: a point in every trial when the evidence becomes overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: And as Uncle Colin your judge for the moment, if

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel struggles, we know Kenny Pickett's not going to

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Speaker 1: be the Browns quarterback. How do you not put Shador

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Speaker 1: number two? Because I watched Shador and he moved and

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Speaker 1: he was good downfield throwing to eight undrafted targets. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I keep watching this video look pretty good

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Speaker 1: to me. What do I know? So oh, in top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, I am gonna make it's really my

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Speaker 1: final tweak, my final NFL predictions, because I'll do it

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Speaker 1: the day of next the Thursday, the NFL starts on

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. I do but last year I don't

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Speaker 1: recall doing many changes. So coming up in twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: this is kind of my next to last tweak. I've

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Speaker 1: got major moves now, I've got Ota rookie camp, training camp,

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Speaker 1: multiple injuries, and you're getting consensus on opinions like Chicago's

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Speaker 1: offense is struggling, that's the consensus. Denver everything is clicking.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves Peyton the defense and Bonnicks. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: a majority opinion. You're getting a lot of majority opinions.

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Speaker 1: Detroit doesn't look quite as tight with the new coordinators

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Speaker 1: as they did last year. So you Miami is acknowledging. Yeah, physicality, culture,

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Speaker 1: and accountability. That's really what we're talking about because I

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Speaker 1: didn't have any of those last year. So you're starting

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Speaker 1: to get consensus opinions on what is coming out of camp,

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Speaker 1: and so there you go. So that'll happen in fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very interested, and I don't talk a lot

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee Titans an organization. Even when they have the

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Speaker 1: good coaches Mike Rabel, they can't get offense right. So

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Speaker 1: cam Ward to me, was the obvious best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: college football. I liked his road. He's got no ego,

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Speaker 1: He's just he's really intent on playing good football. Tennessee

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Speaker 1: has butchered quarterbacks Marcus Mariona, will Levis, Vince Young, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even matter. Jake Locker, who I was not a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of as a quarterback. This kid's got it all.

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Speaker 1: I don't get the ego. I got the arm. He

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Speaker 1: can move but would rather throw it from the pocket.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't have a lot of help the other

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Speaker 1: day when he played. But they just don't have much

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Speaker 1: to work with. But a lot of times with these

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, you know, we kind of throw them to

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Speaker 1: the wolves. It's like that show Chopped where you give

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Speaker 1: a chef a basket and it's got bach choi in

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Speaker 1: a sweet potato and skittles and some octopus and some

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Speaker 1: red liquorice, and you're like, hey, make a delicious meal. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know this is not going to be zaggat rated.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like this Tennessee's all lines bad.

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Speaker 1: They're right receiving corps bottom five in the league. I

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Speaker 1: like the coach, but he's unproven. One of the best

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Speaker 1: things they have going for them the dysfunction of the division.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's where he is. So in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty years, the Titans about a top ten offense once

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Speaker 1: and they've drafted multiple quarterbacks in the first round. This

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Speaker 1: is really the first one. I like everything. I like

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Speaker 1: his story, I like his mindset, I like his arm

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Speaker 1: I like his movement. He cares about the right stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think they may have finally found their quarterback. Here's

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Speaker 1: Brian Callahan, the young, unproven coach.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to be an NFL quarterback. There's a lot

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Speaker 7: that goes that goes on for these guys, and there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of things that Cam continues to learn. And

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Speaker 7: I think that's that's been the beauty of the training camp,

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Speaker 7: and while we're doing all the things we're doing is

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Speaker 7: so he can try to accelerate that process as fast

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Speaker 7: as possible. He's very prideful. He wants to perform well

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Speaker 7: all the time. And he's learning how to play NFL football,

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Speaker 7: and those moments where it gets hard is where you're

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to put him in as many of those

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Speaker 7: moments as possible.

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Speaker 1: And again, this is not a brock pretty situation or

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Speaker 1: a Dack situation when you inherit a lot of the pieces.

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Speaker 1: Dak got a great o line, a dominant back, an

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Speaker 1: offensive coach. Dez Bryant may have been a headache, but

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Speaker 1: he was a touchdown machine. You know, brock Purty gets

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Speaker 1: George Kittle, and you know Deebo Samuel Christian McCaffrey. Go

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Speaker 1: look at brock Perty's last fifteen starts, as they've gotten

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Speaker 1: old and brittle. In his first twenty one, it's a

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Speaker 1: different quarterback. So this is a tough lift. This is

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Speaker 1: not going to win an Academy Award as a movie.

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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for that. I'm just gonna watch his

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Speaker 1: scenes and see if he's memorable. I mean, that's kind

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Speaker 1: of it. But you got to I mean, if this

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Speaker 1: kid had twenty six total touchdowns and ten turnovers total

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Speaker 1: and they were nine to eight, forget the wild card

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Speaker 1: because I think Jacksonville's actually had a pretty good camp,

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00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: pretty quiet camp I would take it to the bank.

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Speaker 1: You got it, context lights, What is the landing spot?

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00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I talked about this yesterday with Jaden Daniels. Everybody's like,

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Speaker 1: this is remarkable. It was easy schedule. He only beat

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Speaker 1: one playoff team and that was the Eagles with Kenny

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00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: Pickett playing a majority of the game. He had a

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Speaker 1: number one receiver, better than average offensive line. Cliff Kingsbury's

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Speaker 1: a remarkable coordinator, may not be a great head coach,

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00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: and they had a good owner, a new GM, a

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00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: defensive smart coach like Jayden. Daniels got a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a number one receiver here. Offensive line's fine.

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00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn got to a Super Bowl as a coach.

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00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: I think Brian Callahan's good. I don't know that so

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Speaker 1: O line is worse than Washington's. The schedule is look,

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Speaker 1: give me Tennessee schedule. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: tougher again. Last year Jayden didn't beat Lamar or Baker.

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00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts right when he paid the good quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this schedule is brutal at Denver and Sean Payton Rams

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Speaker 1: and again Houston at Houston playoff team a much better

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Speaker 1: Raider team, the most improved team arguably in my opinion

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Speaker 1: in the league. New England so and then at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year it's San Francisco, Kansas City, Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: on the road. It's not that formidable. You could win games.

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Speaker 1: But my guess is they start zero and two. That

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Speaker 1: is my guess. But the difference is last year they

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00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: out played Chicago in Week one and will Levis game

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Speaker 1: that gave the game away. If they out played Denver

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Speaker 1: in week one, what is the line on that seven

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Speaker 1: and a half? Eight? If they out played Denver in

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Speaker 1: week one, cam Wart's not going to give the game away.

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Speaker 1: He's just not that kind of quarterback. He has buttoned up.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's Jmack. Last night, I was I had

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Speaker 1: a lot of time at night at a couple hours,

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Speaker 1: so I went a mile deep into my Phil Steel

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00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: College Football book that kind of stuff, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Clemson's better than I gave him credit for.

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00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: And I went through some of the NFL lines. Is

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Speaker 1: I think you admit this, and I've always been into it.

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Speaker 1: Schedule does matter. Like for Tennessee with the rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 1: they did not get a great opening two hands Sean

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Speaker 1: McVeagh and the second week. The more I look at

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Speaker 1: this schedule stuff, the more I think it matters. Like

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this with the New York Giants, I

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Speaker 1: think the Giants could be really interesting. They have no

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Speaker 1: chance to go five hundred in the first eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: They have no chance because they're going to be playing

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Speaker 1: old Russell or kid Jackson Dart. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: what happens in this league is luck of the draw.

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Speaker 4: Listen, this is tough.

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Speaker 2: I get the.

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Speaker 3: Giants hype and Abdual Carter videos and we talked about

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Speaker 3: it Monday.

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Speaker 4: I was like a dual Carter and.

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Speaker 3: The videos are all over online in the last twenty four hours. Colin,

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Speaker 3: My only concern is we do an end of the season,

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Speaker 3: you know, recap, and then we do the draft and

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Speaker 3: free agency and we make our assessments, and then preseason

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Speaker 3: comes and we see a couple of snippets because we

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00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: haven't seen football in a while, and everybody goes overboard, Oh, well,

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Speaker 3: look at the Giants. I can unequivocally tell you they're

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Speaker 3: going to be terrible. The quarterback situation just is not

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Speaker 3: going to be resolved. The offensive line has questions the

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Speaker 3: defense other than the line, the secondary stinks. So let's

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Speaker 3: not overreact to preseason and to go back to something

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Speaker 3: you said earlier, Hey, Shadour did well against the Carolina

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Speaker 3: Panthers backups. So now Dylan Gabriel comes in and remind

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Speaker 3: me who does he have to face again this week?

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Speaker 1: Backups of the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, remember, isn't that there

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Speaker 1: are both.

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Speaker 3: Like philip Eagles super Bowl team, unbelievable roster, great GM

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Speaker 3: like I do think Jyllan Gabriel is gonna do good

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Speaker 3: and people.

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Speaker 4: Are gonna jump to the conclusion.

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Speaker 1: But but again they're all backup. Because Philadelphia has spends

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Speaker 1: a lot of money on its stars, they don't have.

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Speaker 1: Their backups aren't great either. Drafts so well Colin the depth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but those guys Howie Grosman, remember he was the.

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Speaker 3: One who plucked that dude off the Saints. Zach Baond

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Speaker 3: the linebacker almost like a nothing and a special teams guy,

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Speaker 3: and then Zach Wand's an all pro.

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Speaker 4: So they have an eye I think they're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: Dudes, but it's eye test with Shador Sanders. If they'd

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Speaker 1: have lost the game, if you had just watched the highlights.

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Speaker 1: He was accurate downfield, accurate, he moved well, his decision

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Speaker 1: making was good. His traits in college all all segued

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Speaker 1: into the NFL. I always said this with Johnny Manziel.

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Speaker 1: In college, Johnny Manziel ran away from defenders. I knew

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Speaker 1: he was in trouble in his first preseason game when

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Speaker 1: he tried to run away from it was like a

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Speaker 1: Washington defensive end and the guy chased him down, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, that's a problem. Tim Tebow. He is

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Speaker 1: so accurate. Then you watch them in the pros, You're like,

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Speaker 1: he's a tight end. Shedeure, who I've been told is inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: But when I watched them at Colorado, he was always

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Speaker 1: pulling away from defensive ends. He did that against Carolina

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Speaker 1: at Colorado with no offensive line and no run game.

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Speaker 1: He was always throwing on third and thirteen, face of pressure,

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Speaker 1: seventy four percent completion rate. When I watched him Friday,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, in the face of pressure, he was really

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Speaker 1: accurate his stuff college dupro I'm seeing the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Journalist Tony Grossi in a couple of hours