Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast predicted this would happen. Welcome
Speaker 1: to another dishow of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Janzas. I'm coming to you from a
Speaker 1: city filled with heroes in Bugger, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: Greg Rose withal What is up boys? Hey Dan? Oh,
Speaker 1: Happy Monday. Monday. I love Mondays. I mean, I you
Speaker 1: know what, I I'm sensing a little bit in my
Speaker 1: own life that that special feeling you get on a Monday, um,
Speaker 1: slightly disoriented, uh, not really wanting to awaken or get
Speaker 1: out of bed. Um. I had that feeling this morning.
Speaker 1: It kind of was a feeling of normalcy. M hm hm,
Speaker 1: nice rainy day here in l A, which I like,
Speaker 1: you know, as a little uh little change of pace.
Speaker 1: It does feel like, you know, this is I do
Speaker 1: not feel like I'm losing track of days because of
Speaker 1: our schedule and we're writing during the week two and
Speaker 1: because of the shows, and we got the Friday show,
Speaker 1: which is kind of you know, can exhale after. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're we're we're kind of in the flow here.
Speaker 1: We're in a we're in some sort of normality, which
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing. You think so. I mean,
Speaker 1: I never know where the weekends go. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember what I did with my weekend. Maybe it's probably
Speaker 1: because of the kids too. That schedule is so different
Speaker 1: on the weekends because they don't have homeschooling, so suddenly
Speaker 1: I don't really have you know, we don't have shows,
Speaker 1: we don't have homeschooling, so it's it's way more free time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like would be satisfied if a nuclear bomb
Speaker 1: landed in his front yard, but I I do not.
Speaker 1: I feel slightly disenchanted with all things right now, and uh,
Speaker 1: I really need that different a normal may you know,
Speaker 1: like that's that's just how it goes. Sometimes I think
Speaker 1: the reason the reasons are a little different. Yes, Lakisha
Speaker 1: had a Sessler Westley Chris that the baby was coming
Speaker 1: this weekend, but the fact that you're sitting here with
Speaker 1: us tells me that didn't happen. Well, she's moved the
Speaker 1: goalpost a little bit on that one. She said that
Speaker 1: that was more of wishful thinking, and now the baby
Speaker 1: cannot come Tuesday because she does not want him to
Speaker 1: steal away attention from our wedding anniversary. That was on
Speaker 1: the nine team so he's gotta come Wednesday or Thursday,
Speaker 1: but she thinks definitely this week. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: learn real quick that children don't do everything that you
Speaker 1: want all the time. And this may be the first
Speaker 1: strike of rebellion if he showed up right on that date.
Speaker 1: He's getting aggressive because she's twelve days out from the
Speaker 1: actual do date. So she's she's feeling some motherly intuition
Speaker 1: and you don't want to mess with that. Well, I don't.
Speaker 1: Also something something that gets increasingly marginalized as a married
Speaker 1: couple once kids into the fray, is your anniversary date.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're in the middle of seven things.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we got married seven years ago today.
Speaker 1: That's cool. First your experience on this one. But she
Speaker 1: claims that she is so large and and uh so
Speaker 1: awkward right now that the baby just needs to come out.
Speaker 1: You gotta go. Yeah, I gotta get it. Been there,
Speaker 1: uh hanging there, Lakisha. The payoff will be marvelous when
Speaker 1: Kalidas Wesling enters the world. We are still looking for
Speaker 1: a name. Still looking for a name. Hit up West
Speaker 1: on Twitter with suggestions, maybe you will name the child.
Speaker 1: It has to be a good one though, no jokes,
Speaker 1: no bits. All right, today's show got a lot to
Speaker 1: get to Monday show. There's news to hit. Also, we
Speaker 1: are going to do a bit of a deep dive
Speaker 1: here on the curious case of Cam Newton, the former
Speaker 1: m v P and still unrestricted free agent, a man
Speaker 1: looking for work, a man who no doubt is chomping
Speaker 1: at the bit to find a new team and start
Speaker 1: over after the Panthers opted to cut ties with him. Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna open up the swing, open the courtroom doors,
Speaker 1: and really break down the teams that make the most
Speaker 1: sense for Cam Newton and both sides of the case
Speaker 1: why they should be these teams employing a quarterback with
Speaker 1: Newton's potential and history, and also the flip side, the
Speaker 1: defense why these teams have stayed away. So that's that's
Speaker 1: coming up. Also at the end of the show. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: we're Spinning the Wheel, our new series where we go
Speaker 1: team by team or as long as this goes who knows,
Speaker 1: every Wednesday or every Wednesday ish, we will do a
Speaker 1: deep dive on one team and it is completely at random.
Speaker 1: We're gonna spin a wheel. Ricky worked with our behind
Speaker 1: the scenes team at NFL Media to create a completely rammed,
Speaker 1: randomized wheel and the team that it lands on will
Speaker 1: be the team we discuss in depth on Wednesday. We'll
Speaker 1: get to more of that, uh in a bit, but
Speaker 1: before that, let's do some news. I would like to
Speaker 1: see Brady with a big glass of whiskey, right, Mark,
Speaker 1: That would be good, just telling the truth. Yes, shiver
Speaker 1: my timbers. I mean, if there's never a reason to
Speaker 1: watch the NFL Network version of Around the NFL broadcast,
Speaker 1: it is to hear those gems from Mark Sessler. Mark,
Speaker 1: take us through the thought problem. Shiver my timbers. There.
Speaker 1: I think it was a lack of thoughts. I thought
Speaker 1: at that point, you know, hey, the show is rapping.
Speaker 1: Um Dan's gonna take us to break our show. You know,
Speaker 1: our weekend begins at that point. Essentially we know how
Speaker 1: that feeling is on on Friday, and some you threw
Speaker 1: it to me and I gave you that um non
Speaker 1: gim ever my timbers. I don't think I've heard that
Speaker 1: phrase since watching Popeye as a child. I don't know
Speaker 1: what shiver me timbers, but I didn't really I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure what that that meant, especially in the context of
Speaker 1: how Dan threw it to you, but I enjoyed. Ever
Speaker 1: have to apologize to all three of you. Let me
Speaker 1: timbers meaning it's an exclamation in the form of a
Speaker 1: mock oath, usually attributed to the speech of pirates. In
Speaker 1: works of fiction, it is employed as a literary device
Speaker 1: by authors to express shock, surprise, or annoyance. I mean
Speaker 1: it made sense then in the context maybe ever my timbers,
Speaker 1: what what are one? What are ones? Timbers? Right? That
Speaker 1: that's the part I don't have nailed it. They pants.
Speaker 1: I don't know forever if I always though, I was
Speaker 1: just like, I'm so scared, I'm shaking in my boots
Speaker 1: from that. But that's how I just kind of heard
Speaker 1: it my life, and I never knew what it meant
Speaker 1: it was. Maybe the delivery was confusing too, like he
Speaker 1: didn't sound like two shocked. She truly caught off guard.
Speaker 1: It was a huge selling point for the show to
Speaker 1: the people up on the third floor or or their
Speaker 1: empty offices up on the third floor. We want people
Speaker 1: quick on their feet. Look at Mark Cesler, perfect example,
Speaker 1: drops the pirate phrase from four and fifty years ago.
Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for, all right. Let's get into
Speaker 1: it um perhaps progress. I woke up this morning and
Speaker 1: had a New York Times alert on my phone that
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're rolling out some vaccine testing in
Speaker 1: this COVID nineteen world. And who knows, maybe that becomes
Speaker 1: a huge story and a life saving scenario for all
Speaker 1: of us, or maybe it's nothing. Uh. And in the NFL,
Speaker 1: some more potential optimism. A memo sent to teams for
Speaker 1: a path to reopening team facilities. It's been laid out
Speaker 1: to all thirty two teams. Roger Goodell sent it out Wednesday,
Speaker 1: which includes consent from state government officials, establishment of a
Speaker 1: club infection response team, social distancing, and other measures. This
Speaker 1: is from Tom Pallisero, who reported it late last week.
Speaker 1: All club facilities have been closed since March, as we
Speaker 1: all know, and now we have an outline of protocols
Speaker 1: and procedures on the path towards opening them back up
Speaker 1: and greg for anything to happen in in terms of
Speaker 1: a season, whether it's a full season or a truncated season,
Speaker 1: these buildings have to open. So if they can get
Speaker 1: that done, it's a big step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: It's a start. It's not a huge deal. I don't
Speaker 1: think because it's just medical personnel, you know, it's not coaches.
Speaker 1: It's just rehabbing in players until coaches can until coaches
Speaker 1: can get into the building. In every state they're not
Speaker 1: gonna let any coaches into the building. And we'll see
Speaker 1: if that takes us through the end of what would
Speaker 1: have been O T A S and mini camps or not,
Speaker 1: which would be the end of June. But even in California,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone was freaked out about the stay at
Speaker 1: home order, you know, kind of being extended. But the
Speaker 1: governor and and and the mayor of Los Angeles are
Speaker 1: opening up different parts of the city daily almost and
Speaker 1: and the governor says, you know, some sporting events can
Speaker 1: be back, you know, in June. And frankly, they already
Speaker 1: are happening, whether he's allowing it or not. Santa Anita
Speaker 1: has been racing uh down in in San Diego County,
Speaker 1: So we're seeing some pretty good progress at least that
Speaker 1: there's hope that camps could open on time. I think
Speaker 1: that's what everyone's hoping for. I would guess. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to trust anymore, I don't know
Speaker 1: what information to trust. I don't know what people to trust. Uh,
Speaker 1: it seems like one day deaths continue to rise, and
Speaker 1: then the next day everything's opening up and nobody's worried
Speaker 1: about a second wave or a third wave. Um, so
Speaker 1: I'm just taking this as a fluid situation and who
Speaker 1: knows what will happen. I'm very much with us. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can get drawn into the latest narrative, but then
Speaker 1: it seems to to flip by the next morning's news cycle.
Speaker 1: And Uh. At the same side, I mean, getting people
Speaker 1: into rehab and stuff is an important step. We weren't
Speaker 1: there two weeks ago, and there's a cast of characters
Speaker 1: that need legit, like Team medical help, and so I
Speaker 1: think that in terms of long term preparation that matters. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think with this whole thing that
Speaker 1: we're seeing the tick of human nature where you've got
Speaker 1: groups of people saying we've beaten this, but a virus
Speaker 1: doesn't really care about what people want to say. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, through microphones and stuff, it's like, we have
Speaker 1: no idea what the future is. So it's very much
Speaker 1: a wait and see, And it feels a lot more
Speaker 1: probable that they're gonna play games now though than it
Speaker 1: did a month ago. In other news, this is a
Speaker 1: potential huge deal in the NFL. The league is came
Speaker 1: from Jim Trotter, who reported it on Friday. The NFL
Speaker 1: is proposing a plan to incentivize minority hiring that could
Speaker 1: could include an improvement in draft positioning. Trotter said the
Speaker 1: league will present a pair of resolutions at tomorrow's virtual
Speaker 1: meeting to try to create more movement. This comes after
Speaker 1: an offseason's hiring cycle where there were very um There
Speaker 1: were many job openings, but again a few minority hires
Speaker 1: were made, both at the head coach and um management level.
Speaker 1: The first resolution would remove the barrier that prevents assistance
Speaker 1: under contract with the team to interview for a real
Speaker 1: coordinator job with another team, with Goodell reserving the right
Speaker 1: to determine if it's an actual coordinator role. And then
Speaker 1: the big one, the one that everyone's talking about. A
Speaker 1: team that hires a minority head coach would move up
Speaker 1: six spots in the third round to the following year's draft,
Speaker 1: and hiring a minority for the top personnel job would
Speaker 1: create a ten spot improvement, so you can move up
Speaker 1: your draft order and UM West this is like I said,
Speaker 1: coming off an offseason where they're just not seeing the
Speaker 1: gains that they they want and need in evening the
Speaker 1: scales here and the Rooney Rule obviously, which was put
Speaker 1: into effects some time ago, was designed to help minority
Speaker 1: coaches get jobs, but it's not working in the way
Speaker 1: they intended, so they're thinking of ramping it up. Your thoughts, well,
Speaker 1: sometimes in sports it's instructive to take a step back
Speaker 1: and think like somebody who has not been following sports
Speaker 1: your entire life. And when you look at the NFL
Speaker 1: and you see on the field it's almost all black players,
Speaker 1: and then you see on the sidelines it's almost all
Speaker 1: white coaches, and the g m s are almost all white.
Speaker 1: There's just something incongruous there that doesn't make much sense.
Speaker 1: And the current plan, which seems to be let Bruce
Speaker 1: arians handle all of this, doesn't work. Um, So I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised that they went back to the drawing board.
Speaker 1: My question is for such a small move up the
Speaker 1: draft board, and it is a tiny move up the
Speaker 1: draft board, is it worth the stigma that's going to
Speaker 1: be attached to a coach or GM who's hired in
Speaker 1: this fashion. I think it's an interesting idea. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people I think shot it down without
Speaker 1: really having any better ideas. Like I think it's a
Speaker 1: it's such a problem that trying new ideas make sense,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what they're going to But I
Speaker 1: thought the same thing wes um less about the stigma.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that would be a concern, although
Speaker 1: there's certainly a segment of the fan base that that
Speaker 1: would probably put a segma on it, And maybe that's
Speaker 1: what you're talking about and more of that. Is it
Speaker 1: really a that huge of an incentive, I mean, is
Speaker 1: that really gonna yeah, like they're gonna try to get
Speaker 1: every interview possible. It seems like fixing the problem on
Speaker 1: the core level of like growing young black and you know,
Speaker 1: people of color coaches is the bigger issue. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like a big move in the draft. I don't
Speaker 1: know that. It's just like people are willing to throw
Speaker 1: away those sort of moves for anything in the middle
Speaker 1: of the draft. It just doesn't seem like that huge
Speaker 1: and incentive to me, whereas the most of the criticism
Speaker 1: seemed to be this is given away way too much.
Speaker 1: But I just didn't understand that I feel like we
Speaker 1: all get a sense when you go through these annual
Speaker 1: UM firings where there's a you know, a flood of
Speaker 1: interviews for each team, and I feel where the insult
Speaker 1: seems to lie a little bit is when you can
Speaker 1: tell that team, a, we already know they want to
Speaker 1: hire this big name, but then they have to bring
Speaker 1: in a minority candidate to do basically a token interview,
Speaker 1: where I would imagine in some cases we've seen it
Speaker 1: turned down because that candidate knows they're not a serious
Speaker 1: candidate for the job. And so the current incentives, the
Speaker 1: current plan is not working. I mean, they the NFL
Speaker 1: each year has a racial and gender report card and
Speaker 1: it was the lowest this past year that it's been
Speaker 1: in fifteen years. And that's that's kind of shocking. And
Speaker 1: you know, Lewis Riddick to your point, though West made
Speaker 1: a made you know, he he had an interview too,
Speaker 1: and he's he's someone that's been looked at as a
Speaker 1: GM candidate, but he kind of looked at this this
Speaker 1: proposition and said, I get it. I think we all
Speaker 1: get it. But what happens if you get that job
Speaker 1: based off of what seems like on incentivized program and
Speaker 1: then you become a GM, and what do people around
Speaker 1: that team do they think that you're you want to
Speaker 1: be seen as someone that earned it. And I think
Speaker 1: that it can it can affect that a little bit.
Speaker 1: But for a while, I don't know what else to
Speaker 1: do because it is a critical issue in the league.
Speaker 1: And there are two gms right now that are minorities,
Speaker 1: and there are only four coaches, and one of them
Speaker 1: is Ron Rivera, who has been around forever. And you
Speaker 1: look at the QB coaches and the coordinator roles and
Speaker 1: there's not enough to Greg's point um growing people into
Speaker 1: those positions, and that's probably where it starts. Another one
Speaker 1: of those minority coaches is Anthony Lynn of the Chargers.
Speaker 1: He spoke to CBA Sports Radio and he was critical
Speaker 1: of the plan. He said, I think sometimes you can
Speaker 1: do the wrong thing while trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: I think this is out of desperation. This is something
Speaker 1: that we're throwing out there, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: You can't make people hire someone they won't don't want
Speaker 1: to hire for whatever reason. So we'll see, uh, if
Speaker 1: this is something that moves forward or if it it
Speaker 1: stops right where it is as a proposal, and they
Speaker 1: come up with maybe something else. But it does seem
Speaker 1: like there will be more changes and and more help
Speaker 1: for these minority candidates down the line. We'll see if
Speaker 1: this is the plan that ends up being used. In
Speaker 1: other news, bad news around the Giants and Seahawks in
Speaker 1: the legal realm, Giants cornerback DeAndre Baker, who the team
Speaker 1: took in the first round last year, and Seahawks cornerback
Speaker 1: Quentin Dunbar both turned themselves into the Broward County jail
Speaker 1: on Saturday, uh to satisfy a rest warrants in connection
Speaker 1: with an alleged robbery in Miramar, Florida last week. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is heavy duty stuff. There were guns involved, lots
Speaker 1: of money and good stolen, and both players are in
Speaker 1: the center of it. DeAndre Baker has been told by
Speaker 1: the team, the Giants, to stay away from team activities
Speaker 1: right now, the virtual meetings, and it seems like a
Speaker 1: situation that could you know, last well into the season
Speaker 1: potentially and uh, some real legal consequences in uh the offing.
Speaker 1: Potentially tough situation here. Yeah, Baker was a first round
Speaker 1: pick of Dave Gettlman, and he struggled for most of
Speaker 1: the last year, and he fell in the draft, you know,
Speaker 1: because there were, you know, some concerns coming out of
Speaker 1: school about his focus and off the field and and
Speaker 1: all that. And now he's in a situation where it's
Speaker 1: pretty clear reading the you know, you can just look
Speaker 1: at his bond. He had to pay two thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to get out of jail. Dunbar was half as much.
Speaker 1: Dunbar's lawyer at least swears up and down that everyone
Speaker 1: has recanted that he was there in the first place,
Speaker 1: and he might have an easier legal route out of this.
Speaker 1: We'll see, who knows, um, But Baker Baker struggled so bad,
Speaker 1: and it's such a serious claim. Who know, like if
Speaker 1: you told me he's never remember the giants again, Like
Speaker 1: it's it seems like it's at that level. But it's
Speaker 1: hard to guess where we're legal cases they're gonna go.
Speaker 1: We're in a weird spot where really the only punishment
Speaker 1: they could lay on him was you're not invited to
Speaker 1: the Zoom meeting um this week, Uh, positionally, And I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we're at the point where we're all in
Speaker 1: have been on I think now it's not cool to
Speaker 1: do zoom meetings with your friends. What we're post zoomed, right,
Speaker 1: it's it's become tired and all that. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I imagine there's a few jabronies out there that after
Speaker 1: a couple of zoom calls with old friends, they said,
Speaker 1: let's not invite um Robbie back next time. And I
Speaker 1: think that's just Baker just got he got zoomed out
Speaker 1: of there. Well running around with the guns. I just
Speaker 1: did the projected starters for NFC's The Giants have maybe
Speaker 1: the worst cornerback group in the in the league, or
Speaker 1: one of them. Anyways, if they had Baker, you know,
Speaker 1: they have James bad Berry, Baker and Sam Bill and
Speaker 1: nothing behind those three. And Baker and Beal struggled in
Speaker 1: our second year players. So it's like the whether whether
Speaker 1: you know, whatever happens with this legal case. This is
Speaker 1: a major problem for Gettleman, who kind of invested in
Speaker 1: Baker as a as a key part of their future. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Baker is not the only former first round pick from
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen to run a foul of the law
Speaker 1: over the last past few days. Bills defensive tackle Ed
Speaker 1: Oliver arrested on drunk driving charges in Houston over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Uh He was found allegedly with a beer between his legs.
Speaker 1: They searched his car, a gun turns up, So this
Speaker 1: could lead to a suspension, perhaps a beefy one for Oliver,
Speaker 1: who's coming off a promising West rookie year in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Now it's just been complicated a bit. Yeah, similar to Baker.
Speaker 1: There were questions about Oliver's character coming out of college.
Speaker 1: Um and to me, like, I'm afraid to go to
Speaker 1: the grocery store. How are these people partying and committing
Speaker 1: crimes in the middle of a pandemic. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on acting stupid beings. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: there's like we always hear there's two America's. I think
Speaker 1: there might be another division whereas people over forty and
Speaker 1: people under forty. The way they're treating the pandemic, well,
Speaker 1: I also think where the at least the Baker incident
Speaker 1: happened in Florida. It's a different world in Florida right
Speaker 1: now that it is in California. And that comes from
Speaker 1: the leadership you know above that whether it's the governor
Speaker 1: or the local mayors or everything. It's a different world
Speaker 1: down there in Miami Beach right now, go ahead, no, God,
Speaker 1: I will, I'll go now. I just was thinking, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you can include Erica in this. What would
Speaker 1: would if we had to over the next week, UM
Speaker 1: organized it collecting you know, a large enough arsenal of
Speaker 1: guns and pull off a bank robbery. What would our
Speaker 1: chance zero to one polling that off successfully. We're not
Speaker 1: unintelligent individuals, I think for the most part, but we
Speaker 1: have no experience in at realm? Would we just would
Speaker 1: do we even know how to get guns if we
Speaker 1: needed to? Am I allowed to even ask this question?
Speaker 1: I don't walk across the street from the NFL network
Speaker 1: offices right see, But that that lines out the door
Speaker 1: when the pandemic started. That's not the way we think.
Speaker 1: There's another crowd of people that are thinking, I must
Speaker 1: get guns immediately, and maybe so you want to go
Speaker 1: underground to find some illegal firearms before we rob a bank. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go and empty handed two into
Speaker 1: the you know the north. I mean you gotta roll
Speaker 1: into the dream scenario. Are female assassins have evolved taking
Speaker 1: you out at the end of it? Well, we have
Speaker 1: Erica attached to us. I wouldn't put that, but we'd
Speaker 1: all be in new categories. So I mean there there
Speaker 1: was a successful bank robbery right across the street from
Speaker 1: Ellis's elementary school in the fall, like straight up old
Speaker 1: school that the kids the neighborhood total lockdown was. She
Speaker 1: said it was her favorite day of school all year.
Speaker 1: They just watched movies all day, um and they got
Speaker 1: wait with it old school. So it still happens sometimes.
Speaker 1: I had a friendly worked at a bank and he
Speaker 1: said that a lot of people try to rob banks
Speaker 1: on Friday because you think that people. Yeah, but Monday
Speaker 1: is the day to rob the bank because that's when
Speaker 1: the Brinks trucks come with all the money for the week.
Speaker 1: Here we are just say, if you want to know,
Speaker 1: Monday is the day. I would say, this is how
Speaker 1: to do because I've watched a ton of real crime programs,
Speaker 1: including one recently that profiled a collection of bank robbers
Speaker 1: that were successful over a long stretch. In fact, they
Speaker 1: robbed the same bank at three or four times over
Speaker 1: a eighteen month stretch. I believe you don't want to
Speaker 1: do it l A. There's there's too many police forces
Speaker 1: in l a that you know, there's there's just too
Speaker 1: much heat around here. Uh. In fact, there's a world famous,
Speaker 1: like all time bank robbery here in l A that
Speaker 1: involved the massive shootout with swat and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: We got to get out to a countryside. We gotta
Speaker 1: get out to a a po dunk town and hit
Speaker 1: that one one that's not prepared, that doesn't have the
Speaker 1: police force, and it has to be coordinated. There has
Speaker 1: to be a getaway driver. There has to be all
Speaker 1: sorts of knowledge of the inside inner workings of the bank.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that goes without saying steepy Ham and
Speaker 1: egger Town. We just ride in, we strike at eight am,
Speaker 1: and we're out by eight thirty with you know, seven
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars each or or throw a zero
Speaker 1: on that and jewelry. We've got a big problem here.
Speaker 1: Who among us is the muscle technology technology, who has
Speaker 1: handled a gun at any point in their lives? Well,
Speaker 1: I think my question gun range. My my guests would
Speaker 1: be Greg. Greg will be the guy, the trigger man.
Speaker 1: We're not going to hurt anybody. Written A motorcycle bank
Speaker 1: easier I come from. No, A motorcycle is the easiest
Speaker 1: way to go through the drive through and or to
Speaker 1: get quick enough. Another bank that my friend worked at.
Speaker 1: You know, they do bank robbery training when you work
Speaker 1: at the banks, and they say that motorcycles are way
Speaker 1: harder to catch. I call sidecar. I mean I like
Speaker 1: that mentioned were each getting seven that I mean I
Speaker 1: need a little more to risk it all, you know,
Speaker 1: than seven. Well, but you learn on the small banks
Speaker 1: and they only have so much in the coffers, and
Speaker 1: then we'll then we then we'll strike big in like Seattle.
Speaker 1: Two other things, to be wary of the silent alarm
Speaker 1: that is right underneath the um the counter where the
Speaker 1: teller is. Got to make sure that person doesn't compromise it.
Speaker 1: And also they put the paintball thing in the bags
Speaker 1: of money. They explode and then the money is both
Speaker 1: traceable and worthless. So just just a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: We want to do this. We've gotta take it off pod.
Speaker 1: We don't need a gun. You just hand him a note,
Speaker 1: tell him to keep quiet, and hand over the money. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, that's what's happening in the news. There's a
Speaker 1: couple more things, but we we kind of ate up
Speaker 1: the time with the bank robbery talk. Well, sorry that
Speaker 1: that shook out. It will Todd Gurley be healthy for
Speaker 1: the Falcons out of the rundown? We have no answers
Speaker 1: to that question. It is perhaps notable that Derk Cutter
Speaker 1: is openly wondering if Todd Gurley is healthy after taking
Speaker 1: him on. That's a bit interesting seeing the quiet part
Speaker 1: out loud. I mean Todd Gurleys was for we'll move on,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he was fourth in the league and snaps
Speaker 1: back to back years. People honking a lot about a
Speaker 1: guy who plays a lot. It just hasn't been that good.
Speaker 1: M That's fair, all right, let's move on. It's time
Speaker 1: to get into it. It is the curious case of
Speaker 1: the m v P quarterback and the invisible team. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through for NFL franchises who have been
Speaker 1: linked to Cam Newton, the Great Cam Newton, the unemployed
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. And this is how we'll do it. Um.
Speaker 1: One of us will be the plaintiff. One of us
Speaker 1: will be the defendant for each of the four cases. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do a little double duty as a judge if
Speaker 1: I need to keep things under control and the judge
Speaker 1: Wattner role. But I'm gonna try to stay out of
Speaker 1: the way as the judge and let the plaintiff and
Speaker 1: the defendant do what they have to do. Ricky, Um,
Speaker 1: none of this pop culture is ephemera, is connecting with you,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but you would be the Doug Llewell and hypothetically,
Speaker 1: hypothetically who's kind of just in the studio talking low
Speaker 1: into a microphone. Um, I'll let you know if we
Speaker 1: need you for that. You've got Doug Noellen vibes, though
Speaker 1: I feel it. I'm sure that's an insult. Um, but
Speaker 1: you Yeah, he was Doug a little well and was
Speaker 1: not the muscle of the people's court anyway. All right,
Speaker 1: let us get into it real quick, Ricky, whoa the verdict?
Speaker 1: Are you guilty of lazy cliche thinking, shrinking from the
Speaker 1: challenge of giving your organization the best chance to win?
Speaker 1: Guilty or not guilty? All right? I like that. See
Speaker 1: West just amped up the stakes considerably. Hit it, Ricky.
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos up first. This is the plaintiff, me Dan
Speaker 1: hands us. He contends that the Denver Broncos are making
Speaker 1: a huge mistake by ignoring a major need at quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's suing for franchise negligence and emotional abuse on the
Speaker 1: fan base. This is the defendant, Chris Westling. He believes
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and John l a are right to
Speaker 1: throw their support behind Drew Lock, a promising second year
Speaker 1: passer who guided the team to four wins in the
Speaker 1: final five games of the season. M let's get into it.
Speaker 1: What you are witnessing is real. The participants are not actors.
Speaker 1: They are actual litigants with a case bending in a
Speaker 1: California immuniss of bold court. Both parties have agreed to
Speaker 1: dismiss their court cases and have their dispute settled here
Speaker 1: in our forum, Popold's court. All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: The plaintiff speaks first. That's me. Listen, Wes, I know,
Speaker 1: I know the Broncos there, that's your team there, your boys,
Speaker 1: and I and I get that John Elway is a
Speaker 1: man that inspires confidence, even if he's had swings and misses,
Speaker 1: and he's even promised us he's got a lot more
Speaker 1: swings and mrs in it before they send him packing.
Speaker 1: But as I've said on this pod many times before,
Speaker 1: now in this off season, it's seems very strange to
Speaker 1: use a five game sample from Drew Lock and then
Speaker 1: build a playoff caliber roster all around this young former
Speaker 1: second round pick, and then just say he's the guy
Speaker 1: because you want him to be the guy. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I did, West, and you'll be proud
Speaker 1: of me for this. I went back and I watched
Speaker 1: those drew Locks starts because I've been getting so many
Speaker 1: I've been getting killed by Broncos Twitter, and I watched
Speaker 1: those drew Lock starts and I came away largely man
Speaker 1: about the whole thing. I think he averaged about six
Speaker 1: and a half yards per attempt. He showed good mobility,
Speaker 1: uh in an ability to keep plays alive. He's got
Speaker 1: a nice arm, but he also a lot of bone
Speaker 1: headed mistakes. Of course, he's a rookie and that is
Speaker 1: to be expected, but that was something that was the
Speaker 1: m O on him going back to college, that he's
Speaker 1: a guy that made a lot of bad decisions. And
Speaker 1: it just seems ridiculous to me that Drew Lock and
Speaker 1: then a couple of Hammond Eggers beneath him on the
Speaker 1: depth chart. All due respect to I believe Jeff Driscoll
Speaker 1: and somebody who's worse than Jeff Driscoll that with Cam
Speaker 1: Newton sitting out there and and otherwise playoff ready roster
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't seriously consider slash go through with bringing
Speaker 1: in Cam and giving yourself that safety net. Arrest of
Speaker 1: my case, watch well out of order. Let me first
Speaker 1: date that Cam Newton is not a backup quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL, and it makes no
Speaker 1: sense for a team with a two thousand nineteen draft
Speaker 1: pick to bring him in as an underminey force. He
Speaker 1: makes sense more with an established quarterback who might be
Speaker 1: injury prone and you need a hack high caliber backup
Speaker 1: there in case of emergency. Drew Lock was the top
Speaker 1: quarterback on our board in two thousand nineteen, above Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: We almost picked him in the first round. We traded
Speaker 1: up to get him in the second. We like him,
Speaker 1: we like his college tape, and anyone who doubts he
Speaker 1: has what it takes to be a long term starter
Speaker 1: in Denver should go Rewatch the Texans game over and
Speaker 1: over again. Aggressive downfield, tight window, throws outside the numbers,
Speaker 1: throws his tight end open for a TV, made plays
Speaker 1: late in the down through improvisation. One of the hardest
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to sack through his five starts in the entire league.
Speaker 1: We've surrounded this guy with the talent he needs to
Speaker 1: succeed because we believe he is a first round quarterback
Speaker 1: who just happened to fall to the second round. And
Speaker 1: you want the truth, I'll level with you. All of
Speaker 1: us in the a f C West are the Bill
Speaker 1: Pollion coolts. If the starter goes down, we're screwed. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are head and shoulders above the rest of the division.
Speaker 1: If we lose Drew Lock, we're not winning the division.
Speaker 1: So why why bother undermining his confidence or confuse the
Speaker 1: team about who our quarterback is when we know if
Speaker 1: he gets injured, we're just not winning the DIVI is
Speaker 1: what kind of way is that to to run a
Speaker 1: football team? Then oh we're done? He had this guy
Speaker 1: has to be a star. Or why what are we
Speaker 1: even doing here? Your job as a team builder, John?
Speaker 1: Am I talking to John Elway? Or am I talking
Speaker 1: to West talking to John Elway? Okay? John? Uh? If
Speaker 1: very good? If if my job as a team builder
Speaker 1: is to make sure this team stays afloat, that I
Speaker 1: have them fully prepared, that I'm giving my head coach
Speaker 1: the best opportunity to win. I owe it to the
Speaker 1: fans and the team to build a roster where we're
Speaker 1: not shipwrecked. If a second round pick who had a
Speaker 1: question marks all around him coming into the league, uh,
Speaker 1: doesn't become the star. I mean they you can't leave
Speaker 1: the cupboard bear behind Drew Lock. You just it's just
Speaker 1: irresponsible and John Elway and John I don't mean I
Speaker 1: want to be disrespectful, but like you stink at this
Speaker 1: You've been You've proven time and time ago. I'll court
Speaker 1: ordering the court that was disrespectful. Um, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: withdraw that. But there's been a lot of evidence pointing
Speaker 1: to the fact that you do not know what you're
Speaker 1: doing at the quarterback position. A lot of irony. They're
Speaker 1: giving your background as a quarterback, but it's the truth.
Speaker 1: How why should I give you the benefit the doubt?
Speaker 1: That's my closing comments. Well, I'm not gonna take this personally.
Speaker 1: You raise a good point. My job is to give
Speaker 1: this team the best chance to win. And people like
Speaker 1: you you have the luxury of thinking like a fan.
Speaker 1: I have to think like a general manager. My job
Speaker 1: is to put Drew Lock in the best position to succeed.
Speaker 1: And that's responsibility. I have to an organization, to an
Speaker 1: ownership group, to my fans. The guy who I believe
Speaker 1: has what it takes to succeed, I cannot undermine him.
Speaker 1: I have to give this franchise the best chance, and
Speaker 1: to me, the best chance is to make sure Drew
Speaker 1: Locks this is a successful quarterback. And this is turning
Speaker 1: into the O J trial. Let's get to a verdict here. Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't need anything from the galley anohing from the
Speaker 1: peanut gallery. All right, uh, Greg Rosenthal, you're in the
Speaker 1: judge Wapner role here. What is your verdict? Oh I uh,
Speaker 1: my decision resides with the prosecution. John Away, You're guilty.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Next case. This is the plaintiff,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. He believes the Washington Redskins have numerous reasons
Speaker 1: to believe Dwayne Haskins is not the long term answer
Speaker 1: quarterback and they cannot pass on the opportunity to bring
Speaker 1: a former m VP into the building. He is suing
Speaker 1: for lack of organizational commons sense. This is the defendant,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. He believes Dwayne Haskins never received a fair
Speaker 1: shake in his first season and that the former first
Speaker 1: round pick deserves more time to reach his potential in
Speaker 1: our league. Well, I get that everyone wants to just
Speaker 1: shove Cam Newton onto any team in the league at
Speaker 1: this point and tell everyone how great that would be. Um.
Speaker 1: And it does fit for a bunch of teams, I think,
Speaker 1: and I see why it would. It does not fit
Speaker 1: for our Washington Redskins. And I'm gonna tell you why
Speaker 1: right now. Uh. We have Ron Rivera in the building,
Speaker 1: we have Scott Turner in the building. And while you
Speaker 1: can pitch the argument that these guys have worked with
Speaker 1: Cam and no him, they also had a chance and
Speaker 1: still have a chance to go get Cam Newton or
Speaker 1: make it clear to Cam Newton that they they are interested.
Speaker 1: And there has not been so much as a quiet
Speaker 1: fart on that front, not a whisper. There's no interest order,
Speaker 1: order of course accepted in the courtroom. I am sorry,
Speaker 1: your honor, but I I believe in the point that
Speaker 1: the Redskins have a belief that Dwayne Haskins was not
Speaker 1: given the same type of chance that other first round
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were given. Last year, you had Bill Callahan had
Speaker 1: to take over a team, and you know, with all
Speaker 1: due respect to what Bill Callahan did. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: get a good look at a rookie quarterback and a
Speaker 1: frazzled offense that wants to run the ball fifty times
Speaker 1: a game and close out contests in two hours and
Speaker 1: three minutes. He needs more time, he needs better coaching.
Speaker 1: And it's basically you're tangling narratives and you want to
Speaker 1: talk about the Redskins is disorganized. It's go draft the
Speaker 1: first round quarterback that you can't really even argue has
Speaker 1: had a fair shake, and then go bring in a
Speaker 1: veteran that's gonna completely disrupt his development and on a
Speaker 1: non win now team, not even a great situation for
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. Frankly, you're gonna have fans calling for Cam
Speaker 1: Newton to displace Haskins immediately or as soon as the
Speaker 1: team um encounters trouble, which will be about eight minutes
Speaker 1: into the first quarter of Week one, and then you're
Speaker 1: that's the team. You're gonna be dealing with, total chaos.
Speaker 1: And that's what Ron Rivera was brought there to neutralize that.
Speaker 1: You don't bring in Cam Newton. I mean, you start
Speaker 1: listening to these fans, you'll be one of them. I
Speaker 1: mean the Redskins have been listening to their fans and
Speaker 1: making emotional decisions for two until you have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: just keep bringing them in. Don't worry about it. The
Speaker 1: only good decision the Redskins ever made at quarterback really
Speaker 1: over the last few years was draft and Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: in the same draft as Robert Griffin. The third you
Speaker 1: get to you don't worry about the fans saying, oh
Speaker 1: that's a bad pick. You know, we don't, we don't
Speaker 1: need him here. You just you just see what happens.
Speaker 1: And in in terms of like wait until next year,
Speaker 1: I mean this organization, they've been waiting until next year forever.
Speaker 1: We got an adult in the building, Ron Rivera, let's
Speaker 1: just start getting classy. I love when this show evaluates
Speaker 1: quarterbacks after one season because about that. I like Dwayne
Speaker 1: Haskins more than than any um. I think of of
Speaker 1: the four of us uh in this courtroom. Then if
Speaker 1: he's the guy that we think he can be, then
Speaker 1: he'll go be great in this offense. He'll he'll show
Speaker 1: a lot of promise and he'll win that job. It
Speaker 1: can't hurt to have two quarterbacks. I've heard Judge Wesling
Speaker 1: your your final thoughts, your honor. Vertically, I find the
Speaker 1: Redskins guilty of lazy clich thinking and also thinking that
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen's a better quarterback than Cam Newton. Give me
Speaker 1: a break with that one. They thought it last year
Speaker 1: down the stretch, and they think it again this year. Sorry, guilty,
Speaker 1: Let's move on. This is the plane if Mark Zessler
Speaker 1: back for another go around. He believes the Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: are showing far too much faith in Ben Roethlisberger, thirty
Speaker 1: eight year old quarterback coming off reconstructive elbow surgery. He's
Speaker 1: suing for franchise negligence and abuse of blind faith. This
Speaker 1: is the defendant, the old juser. He believes that Big
Speaker 1: Ben is shown progress in his recovery from surgery and
Speaker 1: deserves the benefit of the doubt for sustained greatness over
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career. Mr. Sessler, this one's pretty
Speaker 1: simple to me. It's not an argument of Cam Newton
Speaker 1: is better than Big Ben or offers more than Big Ben.
Speaker 1: But this is a team that, even last year, with
Speaker 1: Big Ben out of the lineup and a rash of
Speaker 1: other injuries, was still knocking on the playoff door. A
Speaker 1: couple with a couple of weeks to go in the season,
Speaker 1: and if you're Cam Newton, you want to go somewhere where,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, you are not a starter at this
Speaker 1: point in terms of most teams bringing you in. You
Speaker 1: want to go to a quality organization where you have
Speaker 1: a chance to basically show the league once again, here's
Speaker 1: who I am. In a year from now, I will
Speaker 1: be starting elsewhere. And I think that this, to me
Speaker 1: has a little bit of a Teddy Bridgewater to the
Speaker 1: Saints type vibe to it, where Cam Newton is probably
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to play two or three very
Speaker 1: critical games for the Steelers in place a big bend
Speaker 1: just based on history. That's a roll of the dice
Speaker 1: um and if he does, he's in an offense that
Speaker 1: can sing right away. You're not dealing with a bottom
Speaker 1: five scenario there. Cam Newton could come in to be
Speaker 1: very productive, being immediate fan favorite. The defense is a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl defense, and you can trust Mike Tomlin to
Speaker 1: do right by you. And while I don't like the
Speaker 1: idea of Cam Newton going and having to blow up
Speaker 1: a young rookie starter who a team believes in UM,
Speaker 1: I do like this as a Super Bowl window operation.
Speaker 1: They certainly see themselves that way, even if maybe some
Speaker 1: do not um a playoff contender getting stronger at quarterback.
Speaker 1: We they have nothing behind big Ben that I trust
Speaker 1: at this point. It blew up their season a year ago.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great situation for the players around him.
Speaker 1: If big Ben goes down and look Cam Newton maybe
Speaker 1: someone you could use in that offense alongside big Ben.
Speaker 1: And I would say this as a final note, we
Speaker 1: need to see what big Ben is and if there's
Speaker 1: any reason he's six percent of Big Ben or his
Speaker 1: beard is weighing him down too much. I know he
Speaker 1: got a trim, he looks looks real sharp right now,
Speaker 1: But big Ben injuries have sidelined this team too many
Speaker 1: times over the course of his long and celebrated run
Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Cam Newton makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: We need to start looking at Ben Roethlisberger as a
Speaker 1: different case here. This is not Drew Lock, this is
Speaker 1: not Dwayne Haskins. This is a guy that has been
Speaker 1: a star for a long time. So the idea of
Speaker 1: bringing in Cam Newton would create a circus. You can
Speaker 1: have Ben Roethlisberger and Cam Newton on the same roster together.
Speaker 1: It is not a situation that's gonna do anything but
Speaker 1: turn the Steelers into a circus. That's not what this
Speaker 1: organization is about. They don't do things that way. They
Speaker 1: do not bring Tin Tebow in. They don't do uh
Speaker 1: circus type maneuvers at a desperation. And I think the
Speaker 1: way here is to look at what Big Ben is
Speaker 1: doing and his workouts and his rehabs and what we're seeing,
Speaker 1: uh that he just released a video, uh that he's
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. He looks good. He looked you know,
Speaker 1: he looked a little bulbous. I'm gonna be fair. It's
Speaker 1: a little heavier last time at the at the end
Speaker 1: of last season. But you see him throwing and working
Speaker 1: out uh this past week, and he looks like Big
Speaker 1: Ben to me and now to calm any other and
Speaker 1: alleviate any other fears, Mark, he is trimming the beard
Speaker 1: back and so you don't have that scary mountain man
Speaker 1: vibe to him, like a guy that's lost all grip
Speaker 1: with society and he's gonna go Ted Kazinski in a
Speaker 1: cabin somewhere. This man is ready to play football and
Speaker 1: play at a high level, and I don't need Cam
Speaker 1: Newton coming in here and mucking up the whole situation.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to the former heavy pick. All right, well,
Speaker 1: god speed with your bulbous quarterback, formerly bulbous, temporarily bulbous.
Speaker 1: Can I tag in here as Christopher Darten? What is
Speaker 1: this circus talk? How is this any different than Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and Jamis Winston? You make it clear that Cam
Speaker 1: Newton's the backup, he's an upgrade on Mason Rudolph, and
Speaker 1: then you fly Drew Brees, Drew Brees. It is not
Speaker 1: well said, it's poorly said. Then Roethlisberger is a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. So is Joe Breese. No, Ben Roethlisberger is
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Cam Newton is an m v P.
Speaker 1: You're you're lining Cam Newton to Jamis Winston. Nobody knows
Speaker 1: that gets Nobody knows what camp in the summer two
Speaker 1: years ago. Jamis Winston is a deeply inconsistent quarterback who
Speaker 1: threw so many interceptions this past year that the fact
Speaker 1: that he threw thirty plus touchdowns in five thousand yards
Speaker 1: was wiped away. He got dumped and had to sign
Speaker 1: almost at the veteran minimum Cam Newton is a former
Speaker 1: m v P at least revolution the quarterback position in
Speaker 1: the last decade. You can't compare the two guys that would.
Speaker 1: It's a totally different scenario in terms of what it does. Hey,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning is available to what happened two years ago,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. All right, we we go to the judge.
Speaker 1: Uh well, obviously not gonna be west I'll go to
Speaker 1: credit well despite um the first use of bulbous I've
Speaker 1: heard since a description of Bill Clinton's nose that that
Speaker 1: was pretty much the only time I've ever heard the
Speaker 1: word bulus. It's just always talk about that bull list
Speaker 1: and and really strong arguments. I gotta go with the prosecution.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler here, gutless behavior by the Steelers. All right,
Speaker 1: Mark needed the win. That's fine. Final one. How dare you?
Speaker 1: This is the plaintiff, Chris Westling. He believes that the
Speaker 1: Patriots decision to part ways with Tom Brady then failed
Speaker 1: to address the quarterback position in a substantial way, has
Speaker 1: set up the organization for potential incompetence in He's suing
Speaker 1: for franchise negligence and belief in false gods. This is
Speaker 1: the defendant, Greg Rosenthal, this is what I've been waiting
Speaker 1: for him. Bescientists going at it. He believes the Patriots
Speaker 1: have never done anything wrong and Bill Belichick is completely
Speaker 1: and totally in fallible. Mr Wesley Jared Stidham drafted on
Speaker 1: Day three, which means he was evaluated by the NFL
Speaker 1: as a backup coming out of college. Due to a
Speaker 1: strong preseason salary cap issues in the absence of Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: he is now seen as a savior. But how relevant
Speaker 1: is the preseason? Right there on your roster you have
Speaker 1: Chase win Of It's the preseason defensive player of the
Speaker 1: Year who went on to play about two nineties snaps
Speaker 1: out of a thousand during the season. How relevant is
Speaker 1: that you have a fourth round pick who outplayed Stidham
Speaker 1: in the preseason, Ryan Finley. For the Bengals, they decided
Speaker 1: halfway through the year he was their answer and better
Speaker 1: than Andy Dalton. He lasted a few starts. We saw
Speaker 1: he was a backup, a backup, that's what he is. Uh.
Speaker 1: Why bringing Cody Sessler after the pick six? If you
Speaker 1: thought he was good enough, if you thought he was
Speaker 1: good enough future starter, you'd have kept him on as
Speaker 1: your backup in the middle of the season. Rather, you're
Speaker 1: out of order. Boston Boston Sportunal says Jared's did him
Speaker 1: evaluated by the Patriots themselves as being a year away
Speaker 1: from ready to start for this team. So to me, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Greg, defend your team. Um. Were you or
Speaker 1: were you not? Um? The same person who said just
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago, if you just have a two
Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen draft pick, why do you want to
Speaker 1: confuse everything by bringing in a veteran were you just?
Speaker 1: It's yes or no question. I did not say that
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen early round pick. Was was Jared'stidham or
Speaker 1: not expected to be a first round pick before? You
Speaker 1: know he would before his senior season? Yes, like Javon
Speaker 1: sneed a few How often have you watched jared'st did
Speaker 1: him at practice? Never? So? How often has the you know,
Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time watched him at practice
Speaker 1: enough times to say this was not by design? Having
Speaker 1: only Jared stid him? Answer? Do you think you have
Speaker 1: a better evaluation process than the greatest badgering the witness?
Speaker 1: I do not. Also don't believe that he believes Are
Speaker 1: you aware of the one thousand meals that jared'stid him
Speaker 1: and his wife have given away um to families in
Speaker 1: need during the pandemic. So we found something he does better.
Speaker 1: The quarterback strike that from the record, that's irrelevant. Relevant
Speaker 1: that is that is part of the process of being morning.
Speaker 1: You be careful here? Do you want to be Hey,
Speaker 1: look at your boy, Nick Saban. Do you want to
Speaker 1: be the Nick Saban of the Dolphins. You refused to
Speaker 1: bring in a guy because you have questions about a shoulder.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be the Nick Saban Dolphins for
Speaker 1: the next decade? Oh? Look, when you've got when you've
Speaker 1: got a backup court like uh, like Brian Hoyer. There,
Speaker 1: you just don't want Who am I kidding? This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Give up all these teams for about practice. This is
Speaker 1: Cam Newton we're talking about. He should be in the league.
Speaker 1: What are you all doing? YouTube? Patriots? I'm going back
Speaker 1: to pro bono. Somebody get a straight jacket. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's how you want your lawyer to act. There. You know,
Speaker 1: just Jack, you're gonna be happy about his counsel here.
Speaker 1: I thought that guy had good lawyers. It seems like
Speaker 1: that guy's got great lawyers. I want someone else on
Speaker 1: the wall. All right, Well, Mark clean this up as
Speaker 1: the as the judge here, I don't know what even
Speaker 1: to make of what we just saw. Well, I have
Speaker 1: to almost throw the case out. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to take this back to square one. But based on
Speaker 1: what I saw, um, I think you know, football in general,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is someone that has always wanted to get
Speaker 1: the best possible player. I remember when the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: under Bill Belichick had Bernie cos Bernie. Well, this is
Speaker 1: this is you know, you're you're using past cases, and
Speaker 1: a past case would be Bernie and Belichick brought in
Speaker 1: Vinnie tested verdie caused all sorts of problems. Jared Stidham
Speaker 1: is not Bernie Kozar. I don't see why you don't
Speaker 1: do this. I'm with West, and by the way, West
Speaker 1: seems to be one of the two sides, the two
Speaker 1: lawyers that believe in his own case. I like your
Speaker 1: use of precedents. That's very precedent, baby. Yeah. Well he
Speaker 1: was very efficient with his words, you know, not us
Speaker 1: not a known bloviator that Judge Wapner. Alright, tune in
Speaker 1: next week for more cases here at the People's Court.
Speaker 1: This is adjourned. What is it called? This courtroom is adjourned?
Speaker 1: That's it? Nice work, all right, before we go? Good stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we accomplished there, but you know
Speaker 1: that was fun. Um it is now time. Yes, we
Speaker 1: get people complain. We get complaints sometimes not all the time,
Speaker 1: but occasionally that certain teams don't get enough coverage on
Speaker 1: our podcast. This is the around the NFL podcast, and
Speaker 1: it does. I suppose makes sense that every team gets
Speaker 1: equal coverage. That said, that's impossible. It's just not the way.
Speaker 1: It's not the way any podcast can operate. Taking notes
Speaker 1: and to the second, to the minute, to the hour,
Speaker 1: how much love each team gets. A team only gets
Speaker 1: as much love as they're interesting to us. Really, But
Speaker 1: what we're introducing here in the middle of a pandemic
Speaker 1: with let's be honest, some Minutes to Kill is a
Speaker 1: a new recurring segment where we will choose one team
Speaker 1: at random, selected at the end of a Monday show,
Speaker 1: and then devote an entire segment to that team, UH
Speaker 1: and prove to you that we do care about your team,
Speaker 1: your team matters, and will UH put our heads together
Speaker 1: after each Monday show, UH decide who's the best kind
Speaker 1: of outside beat right or beat reporter or whomever to
Speaker 1: connect with. Will have a guest involved on each show.
Speaker 1: Ideally that will give a in depth perspective, uh, someone
Speaker 1: who's covering the team on a day to day basis.
Speaker 1: So we're really gonna have fun with this. Also, we're
Speaker 1: gonna as a group it will be a homework assignment
Speaker 1: for us that we will do our studies and we'll
Speaker 1: do some reading and learn up and learn more about
Speaker 1: these teams before we have a nice conversation on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: because nobody wants uh, I'll informed Jabron he's talking about
Speaker 1: their team. That's a real greg that's a real test,
Speaker 1: as you know from going back a long time now
Speaker 1: p f T. If someone's gonna read about or listen
Speaker 1: to their team. They want the national people to have
Speaker 1: a general idea, not just general, but an actual idea
Speaker 1: of what's going on, not brush strokes, broad strokes that
Speaker 1: we're going in with a fine detailed uh tiny comb right.
Speaker 1: It's fired about going national. You got you gotta be
Speaker 1: able to match the hometown fan base at least, you know,
Speaker 1: for all thirty two teams. This will be a great test.
Speaker 1: So for one show at least we will match, uh
Speaker 1: that level of coverage, and Erica worked behind the scenes
Speaker 1: to get us a wheel of teams that you can
Speaker 1: see here if you're watching a video component of our show.
Speaker 1: We're gonna spin the wheel and being completely honest and transparent,
Speaker 1: we do not know where this wheel lands that has
Speaker 1: been set up. Ricky, can you jump in for a
Speaker 1: second and just explain to the audience the mechanics behind
Speaker 1: this that there's no way to throw this in any way. Yep,
Speaker 1: I was sent it via the graphics team. It's programmed
Speaker 1: that once it lands on a team, it gets cut
Speaker 1: from the wheel. Um and there will be no repeat.
Speaker 1: So once it lands and I'm I was afraid to
Speaker 1: even press it for the first time, so I don't
Speaker 1: even know where it's gonna land. Okay, so this is
Speaker 1: the moment of truth and and mark people. If it
Speaker 1: lands on the Jets, Browns, We're gonna catch hell here.
Speaker 1: But again, this is completely randomized, and uh, that's just
Speaker 1: the way it is. But the odds are it will
Speaker 1: not hit the Jets, Browns, Patriots, Bengals, Broncos, Colts, our
Speaker 1: favorite teams. It will hit on another team, but there's
Speaker 1: only one way to find out rights. Well, I think
Speaker 1: the Jets, Browns and Patriots should be taken off the boards. No,
Speaker 1: that's not how you guys want to take your pick.
Speaker 1: Who you feeling a feeling? I mean it's one and
Speaker 1: thirty two, right, A strong feeling it's gonna land on
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Okay, I am almost certain, just because it's
Speaker 1: been talked up it will be the Jets are Browns, Vikings,
Speaker 1: all right, Ricky, I don't guess money one, Oh Marbot Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I told you, I have told you I had a feeling.
Speaker 1: So he had a Sessler. Wow. I want everyone to
Speaker 1: realize that Mark saying that he did not see the wheel.
Speaker 1: There's been no wheel. Mark just accurately predicted that the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals will be the focus of our Wednesday show
Speaker 1: also did not. I also did my research on the
Speaker 1: Cardinals um over the weekend, so I just you know,
Speaker 1: I felt very confident that would be the case. Convincing
Speaker 1: surprise from Erica too. I thought it was great all
Speaker 1: the way around. Wait, I really didn't know. We didn't
Speaker 1: know it was good. Dan's probably a little annoyed this
Speaker 1: happened because it feels like if the fixes in it
Speaker 1: was genuinely Greg not so subtly trying to undermine the
Speaker 1: segment as usual by saying Ricky knew what it was,
Speaker 1: market Marc if you hadn't said anything, but it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been as big a giveaway where I swear on
Speaker 1: thor that I did not text anyone, or right, why
Speaker 1: are you eating lunch in the middle of the post
Speaker 1: were done? It's like one you know. It also just
Speaker 1: happens to be first alphabetically among the teams. All right,
Speaker 1: well that's something attract for Danna. No, no, that's wrong.
Speaker 1: So tune in Wednesday any Cardinals fans out there. This
Speaker 1: is a special show for you. Uh, it will not
Speaker 1: be the only thing we talked about on Wednesday news
Speaker 1: and anything else going on. Uh so, uh, check in
Speaker 1: on Wednesday our next audio show. And yes, reminder, every
Speaker 1: Friday they ran the NFL broadcast on NFL Network. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it, good stuff. Everybody, Monday's over from a work
Speaker 1: component angle. That's good. Brian continues, though, Yeah, alright, this
Speaker 1: is Dan Hanson signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the old Boss, Rick Hollywood behind the glass. Congratulations Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: you will fly with us on Wednesday, so then SA