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Speaker 5: Sir, probably heard that you're supposed to get like ten thousand

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Speaker 5: steps a day, but according to new research, just seven

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Speaker 5: thousand steps a day could be enough to improve your health.

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Speaker 2: Do you I hear six?

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Speaker 5: It really sounds like scientists have lowered their expectations for us,

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Speaker 5: explains by the new Surgeon General warning on cigarettes as

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Speaker 5: do not smoke during pregnancy unless it's your second kid.

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Speaker 2: Then what else?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I like the jokes, but the problem is the

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Speaker 3: original ten thousand step thing was completely made up. The

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Speaker 3: problem with a lot of health stats, and we're about

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Speaker 3: to get into some here, is they're misinterpreted regularly. Oftentimes

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Speaker 3: they're very, very small, preliminary studies that the researchers themselves

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Speaker 3: would never put out there as a national story to

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Speaker 3: talk about. But it's something exciting about something that can

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Speaker 3: cause cancer or eliminate cancer or whatever, and so the

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Speaker 3: media goes crazy with it. And then there's studies that

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Speaker 3: are paid for by like, you know, mattress companies or

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Speaker 3: says eating more chocolate leads to better sex life or whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know, So sure you gotta watch out for that.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to that stuff. Couple of things real quick.

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Speaker 3: First of all, can we make a vow? We need

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Speaker 3: to make a vow. I don't think we can keep it,

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Speaker 3: but we should try. We should make a vow every

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Speaker 3: day and work toward this goal to stop talking about

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Speaker 3: cable news as if anybody's watching it because nobody is.

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Speaker 4: So that's so fine with me, Yeah, I agree. But

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Speaker 4: anytime you talk about Jake Tapper said this or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It might be interesting for some reason, but nobody is

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Speaker 2: watching that show. Nobody.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm looking at this stats that byron Yorke

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Speaker 3: just put out from Fox. It's more likely you're watching

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Speaker 3: a Fox show. Certainly, but uh, CNN's total audience during

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Speaker 3: their five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and eleven PM hours.

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Speaker 2: You're cherry picking.

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Speaker 3: Added together don't beat one showing of the five, which

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Speaker 3: is not even one of Fox's highly rated shows. Oh

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Speaker 3: so talking about anything on CNN or MSNBC really is who.

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Speaker 2: Are you talking to? Boy?

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Speaker 4: It is the ultimate example of something holding on to

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Speaker 4: just any reputation based entirely on its gloried pass and.

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Speaker 3: By people who are old enough to remember when it mattered.

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Speaker 3: If you're younger, you don't even know what it is.

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Speaker 2: So right, Well, it's on in airports inexplicably.

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Speaker 4: We got this CNN have a picture of the head

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Speaker 4: of the FAA with a mule or something. I mean,

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Speaker 4: how is CNN on in airport's all over America? That

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Speaker 4: is almost that is almost certainly the explanation.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, moving along, we got this text about that horrible

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Speaker 3: sloppy language. You're putting out fake news again. The shooter

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Speaker 3: in New York never played in the NFL. I didn't

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Speaker 3: he was a high school star and that's where he's current.

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Speaker 4: You never stated anything that could be taken to indicate

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Speaker 4: he didn't play in the NFL, but he did see

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Speaker 3: make him some sort of anybody to look up to

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Speaker 3: because he killed a bunch of innocent people like a scumbag. Right,

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Speaker 3: if you didn't get enough sleep last night, you've doubled

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Speaker 4: I hope you're happy. Oh no, not another bout of

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Speaker 3: This is pretty damned interesting and a bit of a breakthrough.

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Speaker 3: I think we've been talking about sleep stuff a lot.

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Speaker 3: Everybody that I know deals with sleep issues, or if

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Speaker 2: With having instead of self.

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Speaker 3: Reporting about sleep, which is all you had to really

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Speaker 3: fake long sleepers in all studies we've ever heard. They

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Speaker 3: actually that's what they actually call them, fake long sleepers

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Speaker 3: in studies we've heard about through our whole lives. It's

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Speaker 3: skewed everything we've ever had about sleep because you got

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Speaker 4: Is anybody struck anybody else struck by the hilarious irony

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Speaker 2: It's when I'm asleep. True.

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Speaker 3: It's the largest study of its kind ever. Researchers strapped

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Speaker 3: their health for almost seven years. Among people who claimed

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Speaker 3: to sleep more than eight hours a night late nearly

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Speaker 3: a twenty two percent, so a fifth we're actually getting.

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Speaker 2: Six or less.

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Speaker 3: That's a big chunk of people who thought they were

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Speaker 4: Yes, statistically, that's like, why are you even talking about

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Speaker 4: the previous numbers? They're ridiculous, right, But let me jump

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Speaker 4: everything you've ever heard about sleep studies is fake because

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Speaker 4: of what do they call them, lying bastards?

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Speaker 3: That's not what they call them, fake long sleepers. My

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Speaker 3: bastards would be too harsh, that'd be appropriate. Uh, sleep

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Speaker 3: rhythm matters more than sleep duration. Inconsistent or weak. Daily

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Speaker 3: Up to thirty seven percent of Parkinson's. These numbers can't

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Speaker 4: That's a lot that. That's an extraordinary claim. I am,

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Speaker 2: Wow. What's what's our source here? What's our publication? Is this?

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Speaker 3: It's a dirty Chinese research led by doctor Quinn Chen

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Speaker 3: Army Medical University in cheng Wang Peck Peaking University. Okay,

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Speaker 3: are you concerned that the Chinese are trying to infiltrate

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm highly skeptical about all of this. The idea

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Speaker 4: that bad sleep rhythms are more serious a problem than

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Speaker 4: we understand, that's perfectly reasonable. But a bunch of commis

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 3: The study linked various sleep problems to one hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy two different diseases across virtually every system in the

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Speaker 2: Some diseases showed dramatic associations.

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Speaker 3: For example, people with the most disrupted sleep rhythms face

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Speaker 3: more than triple the risk of age related physical debility.

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Speaker 2: I don't really doubt that. Well, yeah, but triple, But

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Speaker 2: I don't doubt that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Your previous sentence about Parkinson's caught my ear, partly because

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Speaker 4: both my mom and my grandfather died of complications from Parkinson's.

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Speaker 4: But so little is known about what causes Parkinson's. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But my guess would be that whoever wrote this article

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Speaker 3: It could just be those two things to go together

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Speaker 3: for unknown reasons. But I wanted to get back this

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Speaker 2: Well, you could be.

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Speaker 4: You've got a gene mutation that causes poor sleep rhythms

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Speaker 4: and parkinson for instance, Parkinson's for instance.

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Speaker 3: Sure, so people with the bad sleep triple the risk

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Speaker 3: of age related physical debility. Also, you doubled the risk

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Speaker 2: Yeah again, don't I eliminate the any chance of gangreen

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Speaker 4: Ruin my beach vacation. It's it's hurt my golf game.

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Speaker 4: The gang green.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible. How many people have you ever known gotten gangreen?

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Speaker 2: life has been poorer for it. Listen, you're a great guy,

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Speaker 3: Well, I saw you, I saw your hinge profile, and

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Speaker 3: you mentioned the gangreen right up toward the top.

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Speaker 2: So it shouldn't have been a surprise anyone. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: So this sentence, this is the one you're having trouble with.

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Speaker 2: I exactly shut that. That means nothing. Sorry, I hate

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Speaker 4: We need a meeting, A long meeting, okay, a sort

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Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if a lot of the

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Speaker 3: problems we have though in the modern world is people

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Speaker 4: known for thousands of years.

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Speaker 2: But well, I'll just say what he said.

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Speaker 4: Leave time in your life for God, Leave time in

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Speaker 2: Put down your damn screen. You know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even do this on purpose. It has just

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Speaker 3: kind of happened for a variety of reasons. But I've

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Speaker 3: been on this kick all summer long. Of at sunset,

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Speaker 3: I schedule my evening around this. At sunset, I ride

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Speaker 2: So I'm there.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at this wheatfield with the sunset, and I

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Speaker 3: I went to Florida South Beach for a couple of days,

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Speaker 3: away from it saying, this is the coolest thing I've

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Speaker 3: ever done in my life.

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Speaker 2: But it was so strange. The guy was so drunk.

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Speaker 3: For one thing, he had the really drunk guy eyes,

445
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Speaker 3: you know, where they're like really glassy yes and watery,

446
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Speaker 3: and he kept shoving shoveling these he had a paper

447
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: bag with him. He'd brought sandwiches from home. This gets

448
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Speaker 3: to the I don't know what these people are doing,

449
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Speaker 3: if they make money doing this, or is this your job?

450
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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you play them for money.

451
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Speaker 2: I don't even know.

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Speaker 4: A good friend of the show is a friend of

453
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Speaker 4: mine just texted the New York chess hustlers usually play

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Speaker 4: for a few bucks.

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Speaker 2: They're usually very good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was unbelievable, as drunk as

457
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Speaker 3: this guy was. Hell, I'm gonna give you a lesson, Henry.

458
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Speaker 3: You'll remember this arrest of your life. First of all,

459
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Speaker 3: number one, Get one thousand and one chess moves, get

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Speaker 3: the book and he names the guy Dad, buy him

461
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Speaker 3: that book. Okay, and uh, they set up the chess

462
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Speaker 3: pieces and they start to play. Let me see how

463
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Speaker 3: good you are, Henry. So they play for a little bit,

464
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Speaker 3: and Henry would go to make a movie. He put

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Speaker 3: it back, Henry, Henry put it back. No, Henry, think

466
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Speaker 3: about it, Henry. And so, so then we do that.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, So let me give you a lesson. And

468
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Speaker 3: so then he gives him a lesson and he's sitting

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Speaker 3: by and he's shoveling this sandwich that he made into

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Speaker 3: his mouth, and.

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Speaker 2: Parts of it are getting in his mouth, but.

472
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Speaker 3: Most of it's not, and the rest of it's just

473
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Speaker 3: like falling on his shirt and onto the chessboard, and

474
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Speaker 3: he'd have to wipe the chunks and sandwich away as

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Speaker 3: he's moving the chessboarder. At one point, he kicks over

476
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Speaker 3: his half a bottle of Miller lte and it tips

477
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Speaker 3: over and rolls between my legs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just he's a.

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Speaker 3: Drunk like he seems like a homeless guy. Yeah, I

480
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Speaker 3: don't even know what's going on there, Henry. I'm gonna

481
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Speaker 3: give you a lesson. Now, the best guy in the park,

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Speaker 3: that guy over there with the sunglasses on, he's the

483
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Speaker 3: best player in the park right now. Nobody will play

484
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Speaker 3: him again, Which gets to my if nobody will play

485
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Speaker 3: you because you're so good, how do you make any money?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how this works. Hey, you gotta wait

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Speaker 2: for somebody strong.

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Speaker 4: My chess playing friend also pointed out that it's a

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Speaker 4: thing among chess enthusiasts. There are there are videos of

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Speaker 4: grand masters going under cover and playing these guys and

491
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Speaker 4: appreciating how good someone.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this dude was amazing when Henry was actually playing,

493
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Speaker 3: and how fast he would move and how he saw

494
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Speaker 3: the whole board was to be as drunk as he

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Speaker 3: was hots was really quite amazing.

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Speaker 2: Was he really drunk or do you think this was

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Speaker 2: part of the hustle?

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Speaker 3: No, he was drunk. I know a drunk guy, and

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Speaker 3: he was very drunk. And there were many people playing chess.

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Speaker 3: It was mostly dude sitting at empty chess tables waiting

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Speaker 3: for somebody to come playing for whatever.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So his lesson was, Henry, let me ask you

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Speaker 2: a question.

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Speaker 3: You're a home by yourself, and outside the door there

505
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Speaker 3: was a gorilla and two dogs. Okay, a gorilla and

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Speaker 3: two dogs. Wow, they knock down the door and they

507
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Speaker 3: come in the house. What do you do, Henry, I

508
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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I called my dad. You don't have a phone, Henry.

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Speaker 3: What do you do when the gorilla and the two

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Speaker 3: dogs coming home?

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Speaker 2: And it was just like this the whole time. It

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Speaker 2: was so wild hand the dogs and punched the gorilla.

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Speaker 3: No, I guess I worry about the dogs because I

515
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Speaker 3: can't fight a gorilla.

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Speaker 2: No, Henry, Henry, that is wrong. What is the biggest threat?

517
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Speaker 2: Henry the gorilla. That's right.

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Speaker 3: The gorilla is the biggest threat. So do you see

519
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: where my queen is right now? That is your biggest threat.

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Speaker 3: Get rid of the gorilla, Henry, And so Henry moved

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Speaker 3: and got rid of the queen. Now you don't have

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Speaker 3: to worry about the gorilla. Do you see where my

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Speaker 3: two dogs are?

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Speaker 2: Henry? And it was just like that through the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: This went on for like forty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: It was incredibly entertaining and really interesting imagery to try

527
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Speaker 3: to figure out some chess strategy.

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Speaker 2: For a few bucks.

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Speaker 4: For five bucks place, that's the best money you've ever

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Speaker 4: spent in your life.

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Speaker 2: Did the entertainment.

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Speaker 3: Alone, let alone the chess lesson? It was really so

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Speaker 3: it was like out of a freaking movie. And I thought,

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Speaker 3: what are you? I mean, his clothes, he looked like

535
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Speaker 3: a homeless person. I mean, his shoes had holes in him.

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Speaker 3: He smelled bad, he's spitting his sandwich all over, he's hammered, drunk,

537
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Speaker 3: but brilliant at chess. I just so, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's going on there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we've all known people like that, whether

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Speaker 4: they're musicians or writers or what have you, that they

541
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Speaker 4: have an incredible level of capability at one thing, but

542
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Speaker 4: not so much on life skills or hanging on to

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Speaker 4: a job for instance, or don't want to right for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: God dang it, that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, Henry walked away from saying that was

547
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Speaker 3: the greatest thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 2: In my life. He really really liked it.

549
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Speaker 3: Both the chess lesson and just the entertaining flare of

550
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Speaker 3: the whole thing was so well again, like straight out

551
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Speaker 3: of a flip and movie.

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Speaker 4: Well, the downside was you didn't get a chance to

553
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Speaker 4: talk about the big beautiful bill on the air since

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Speaker 4: you were on your vacation.

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Speaker 2: On our vacation didn't come up in conversation with anyone.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 4: A round up of different people, many of them conservatives,

558
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Speaker 4: and their takes on that message.

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Speaker 3: Gorrilla is in your home, You're gonna worry about the

560
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Speaker 3: dogs first. Think about it, Henry, to try to imagine

561
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: that anyway, So you keep spitting sandwich all over, I

562
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Speaker 3: don't know what to say.

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Speaker 2: The dogs are happy with the sandwich.

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Speaker 4: Leavings arms.

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Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty show. Well, I sound this very interesting.

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Speaker 2: I was considering trying to cram these two things together.

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Speaker 4: The incredible radicalization of young women around the world as

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Speaker 4: their male companions. They don't have companions, but as the

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Speaker 4: males of their generation are swinging to the right. Not

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Speaker 4: not a lot, but some. And how weird and interesting

571
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Speaker 4: that is. But we'll do that another time.

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Speaker 2: I want. I'm just gonna go with this.

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Speaker 4: It was a piece written by Mark Penn and Andrew Stein,

574
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Speaker 4: and they're both Democrats. Penn, you may reize recognized his name.

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Speaker 4: He was a polster and advisor to the Clintons in

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Speaker 4: the nineties and two thousands. And this other guy was

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Speaker 4: a New York City council president for a number of

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Speaker 4: years in the eighties and nineties. But the title is

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Speaker 4: gen Z the Useful Idiot Generation. Young people usually become

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Speaker 4: less radical with time. Are we seeing an exception? And

581
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Speaker 4: they go into describing, you know, hippie Vietnam War protesters

582
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Speaker 4: who got jobs, got married, and had children. Exactly, wash

583
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Speaker 4: your damn dirty hippie feet. Now their grandchildren see them

584
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Speaker 4: tethered to Fox News. Today's young Americans are following the

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Speaker 4: first part of that pattern. Ask a group of them

586
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Speaker 4: to choose between capitalism and socialism. They'll split right down

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Speaker 4: the middle, and he goes into the nominating horrifying Zorn Mundami,

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Speaker 4: who says he wants to capture the means of production.

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Speaker 4: I've heard that phrase. Yeah, you know what, Oh, I

590
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: ought to get into the PolitiFact thing. Someday PolitiFact rated

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Speaker 4: is false, the idea that Mundami's a communist. And then

592
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Speaker 4: when it came out that he said we need to

593
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Speaker 4: seize the means of production, which is straight out of

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Speaker 4: the communist manifesto, they said incomplete data anyway, But will

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Speaker 4: the young people outgrow their radicalism? And this is the

596
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Speaker 4: part they really intrigued me. There's reason to doubt it.

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Speaker 4: Record numbers of gen z are persu doing higher education,

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Speaker 4: with fifty three percent of those eighteen to twenty four

599
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Speaker 4: having completed at least some college. That's a troubling sign

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Speaker 4: given how left wing ideology has come to dominate higher education.

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Speaker 4: And again, these are two mainstream democrats writing colleges where

602
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Speaker 4: many young people learn that socialism means free stuff. They're

603
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Speaker 4: indoctrinated to blame capitalism for racism, inequality, and climate change.

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Speaker 4: Unlike the older generations, they grew up after the end

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Speaker 4: of the Cold War and have no memory of the

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Speaker 4: atrocities committed by the Soviet Union, Maoist China and other

607
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Speaker 4: socialist regime regimes.

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Speaker 3: I have no memories is an interesting way to put it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't live through most of that stuff, my memories

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Speaker 3: or because somebody taught them to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an excellent point.

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Speaker 4: And he said, they say, maybe they'll see socialism and

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Speaker 4: action in New York. But here's the really intriguing part. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: the process of growing up is slowing down. They're talking

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Speaker 4: about what I mean. It's not automatic that a young,

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Speaker 4: ideal stick way left person becomes a conservative. It happens

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Speaker 4: through processes, experience, mugged virality exactly, the process of growing

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Speaker 4: That's actually a great phrase. The process of growing up

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Speaker 4: is slowing down. The median age of first marriage is thirty,

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Speaker 4: almost five years later than it was in nineteen eighty five,

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Speaker 4: and that means that young people settle down and take

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Speaker 4: on responsibilities later, if they ever do. Nearly half of

623
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Speaker 4: Gen Z adults aren't are not in a committed romantic relationship.

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Speaker 4: They largely live communally, often work from home, and are

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Speaker 4: connected primarily through the four plus hours they spend each

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Speaker 4: day on their phones. Their primary sources of information are

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Speaker 4: TikTok and Facebook, whose algorithms lead them to material that

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00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: reinforces their preconceptions rather than challenges them four.

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Speaker 3: Hours a day on their phones. What would they have

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Speaker 3: been doing before, Because I mean, that's the whole opportunity

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Speaker 3: cost thing. Only so many hours in the day, there

632
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Speaker 3: would have been more television watching back in the day,

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Speaker 3: But all four hours wouldn't have been taken up with that.

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Speaker 4: No, but lots and lots and lots of relating to

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Speaker 4: real human beings who don't feed you agreement based on

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Speaker 4: their algorithms. In my experience, my friends, my girlfriends, my wife,

637
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: my family, they all feel free to disagree with me

638
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: semi regularly in a way that Facebook and TikTok never will.

639
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Speaker 4: They will, with all due respect to your sister in

640
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Speaker 4: law who constantly posts garbage that you hate. Those algorithms

641
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: again lead them to material it reinforces their preconceptions.

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Speaker 2: I think much other than that your real life. Maybe

643
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Speaker 2: that's not true anymore.

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Speaker 3: I was about to say, your real life, you don't

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Speaker 3: talk about politics nearly at all, as opposed to being

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Speaker 3: bombarded with it on your whatever device you're looking at.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think in general, because I actually do

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Speaker 4: agree with that, but in general, real life life quote

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Speaker 4: unquote is much more messy and much less catering to

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Speaker 4: you in a hundred different ways than virtual life is,

651
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Speaker 4: which tends to lead people toward less two EI to

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Speaker 4: idealistic progression.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell people I know, from now on,

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Speaker 3: I want you to I'm going to use an algorithm,

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Speaker 3: and I want you to feed me things I only

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Speaker 3: want to hear. Only say things I want to hear

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Speaker 3: or I'm interested in.

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Speaker 4: They would make a squinty face and say, no, I'm

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Speaker 4: not doing that.

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Speaker 2: And there's more.

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Speaker 4: Another traditional source of ballast, religion has been become lighter

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Speaker 4: as well. More than one third of gen Z reports

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Speaker 4: zero religious affiliation. Roughly sixty percent did not participate in

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Speaker 4: religious services growing up.

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Speaker 2: That produces a lack of moral grounding.

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Speaker 4: We've had a really interesting couple of conversations about that.

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Speaker 2: Let's not get off on.

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Speaker 3: That, but yeah, I don't know if you could make

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Speaker 3: a blanket statement of lack of moral grounding because you

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Speaker 3: didn't participate organize religion, right.

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Speaker 4: But their greater argument is the things, the inputs, the

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Speaker 4: influences in life that tended to make you more realistic

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Speaker 4: and therefore more conservative are missing, including religion. Put this

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Speaker 4: all together, and it's little wonder that about half of

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Speaker 4: eighteen to twenty year olds twenty four year olds tell

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Speaker 4: pollsters that they support Hamas over Israel. Hammas specifically, not

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Speaker 4: the Palestinian people efing Hamas. By and large, these young

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Speaker 4: adults aren't hardcore ide logs. They're merely ignorant. About half

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Speaker 4: of young Hamas supporters say they don't want to wipe

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Speaker 4: out Israel.

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Speaker 2: They prefer to state solution.

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Speaker 4: Call them the useful idiot generation, mouthing slogans and causes

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Speaker 4: they don't understand and from which they would recoil if

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Speaker 4: they did again.

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Speaker 2: This was written by Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's you know, the Queers for Palestine thing

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Speaker 4: is the perfect example of that. It's the useful idiot generation,

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Speaker 4: valthing slogans and causes they don't understand and from which

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Speaker 4: they would recoil if they did. Well.

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Speaker 2: A guy like Mark Penn, who worked for the Clintons.

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Speaker 3: He realizes Democrats are never going to win another major

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Speaker 3: election and let they unless they get this under control.

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Speaker 3: So he's trying to figure out why do were young people.

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Speaker 3: Why are they so crazy? That's what he's trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out. Final couple of sentences. The older generations are

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Speaker 3: not blameless here. We created the environment that produced this

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Speaker 3: unmoored generation. Socialism and anti Semitism will continue to fester

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Speaker 3: and grow if we don't stand up and reform our universities,

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Speaker 3: reinforce our basic values, and balance our social media.

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Speaker 2: I agree completely.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: I am sticking with the idea that.

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Speaker 4: Reforming our education systems or tearing them down and building substitutes,

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Speaker 4: is the most important issue for America for the next

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Speaker 4: fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow, the all stopped at his shower.