WEBVTT - Farewell Tiffany 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.920 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:05.360 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.039 Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.720 There is a burden to speak in the truth. It 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:17.759 comes with a consequence. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.840 Tiffany Cross, Tiffany Cross, Tiffany Cross. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:23.160 Cross, Welcome home. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:23.479 Y'all. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.720 The people who shackled us, abused us, berated us, oppressed us, 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:32.120 suppressed us. Their descendants are not that far removed. I 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.080 see that you were not just okay with it, but 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.600 you celebrated it. It was a joke to you. I'm 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.319 looking at these white folks, I'm like, why you want 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.840 your kids to be dumbred in arts? Because I want 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.479 everyone in my life around me to be doing something dope. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.919 And the reason why is because when I fall, they 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.640 gonna be in a position to catch me. The reason 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.160 why the United States is a superpower is because of enslavement. 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.000 Joe, there's no time, girls. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.840 I told y'all, I've been ready, and Peaches and Earth 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:05.840 came out. So I do think that we have to 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:09.800 start considering how we want to exercise the buying power 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.839 of two trillion dollars in this country. Hit them where 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.920 it hurts and if you target white man's money, I 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:16.720 have to just feel like that's when you get attention. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:18.440 First of all, Craig was kind of cute. 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.600 Thank you, Craig. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.160 If you're not receptive or curious, then you are likely 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.720 not my audience and I'm likely not yours. I am 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.240 curious about things I can learn from anybody, but I 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.720 don't necessarily respect everybody's opinion, and I don't think all 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.160 the people say I respect everybody's opinion. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.440 You's a lie. I don't believe that. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.479 Brilliant women said this some years ago. And I think 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.959 these words are to be echoed right here, and that 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:45.520 is our. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:45.960 Time is now. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.040 Welcome home, guys. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.160 Yes, this is our New Year's e show. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.040 This is why Angela and I are sparkling, and why 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.120 these guys are doing their best to keep up with them. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.800 Let's go okay, all right? So why do we start 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:05.520 out with all those clips? 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.360 I want to let everybody know this will be my 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.960 last show with Native Land Pod. I'm sad to say, 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:13.840 but it doesn't have to be a sad occasion. When 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.160 Bakari joined, his one stipulation was he would not do 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.240 the show with me, and that's not true. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:20.560 I did say there was going to be a fair 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.760 and we found out. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.040 He put it in his contract. He said it can 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:30.720 only be one Beyonce on this table. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:32.160 No I am. 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:37.240 I am leaving the show. I want to do more 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:42.239 things that I want to do by myself basically, but it's. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:44.440 Some people. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.880 I might be that person, yes maybe, but hopefully this 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.320 won't be the last time you see me here because 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.800 I want to come back as a guest. But I 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.799 want to thank my co host because I really move 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.160 your mic toe. Am I messing up already? I want 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.080 to thank my especially Angela, because I remember I didn't 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:04.560 really put a lot of thought into this, and Angela 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.960 was like, hey, we're gonna do a podcast. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:07.919 Was going to be in it, and it was always. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.960 Supposed to be this group that you see right now. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:17.760 And but but Pa Cary was tied up. Yes he 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.800 was getting the bag when I'm mad at that, and 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.000 then he joins, this is how it was always supposed 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.960 to be. And so I'm just thankful to you for 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.040 inviting me to this platform. And you know, if it 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:34.000 weren't for this space, I would have felt voiceless. And 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.040 I just like, since my show has been canceled, You've 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.000 been a constant at my side of you know when, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.080 like literally in Atlanta we even had a little security 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.480 guard with us. I won't say no names, but people 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.640 were like just surrounded me. But Angela was the one 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:52.120 constant there. So doing this work has been amazing, and 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.720 I'm just thankful that it doesn't mean we won't see 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.680 each other or talk because our friendships predate the podcast. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.680 They exist beyond the podcast. I think will always have 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.280 some sort of work and relationship. Really, truly, I'm not 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.240 being coy. I really don't know what the next steps 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.560 look like, but whatever they are, I'm gonna be talking 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.080 to Angela about it, getting her advice on what it 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.080 might look like. I know I want to do people 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:15.520 A lot of you have asked, you know, why don't 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.360 you bring it back the cross connection, And I would 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.719 get so annoyed because I'm like, do. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.880 People think I got a network? You know, like God 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:21.560 does his work? 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.440 And younger people really look at me like does she 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.200 not get it? You know, like nobody's watching networks anymore. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.480 Like you literally have the ability to do this now, 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.640 and so I'm figuring all that out, and thankfully you've 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.080 been in the space a lot longer, so I'll definitely 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:40.480 be bugging Angela a lot. Chris Morrow, who's the founder 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:44.600 of Reason Choice Media, I'll definitely plan on bothering him. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:49.520 Thank you Leonard for founding the network with Angela and Chris, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.640 And to Bakari and Andrew, I'll just say you're welcome 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.280 for all the knowledge I've given you both yes, and 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:56.920 for carrying you both. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.360 Yes every episode. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.520 It's hard work and carrying you guys, but I did 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.360 want to let the audience know kick off the show 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.240 and let the audience know that it's not a sad 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.360 occasion because, like I said, you'll see me back here. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.320 I hope these guys I'll be begging to come on. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:19.200 I think we're booked okay to play. I'll take y'all out. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.120 I want to do an in person show though the balloon. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.039 Watch her pop the balloon show and please keep tuning 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.200 in a Native lamp. I'll be experiencing how you guys 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.240 do as an audience member. And so many people stop me. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.520 Oh this is also like the like thirst for audiences 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.680 because so many people stop me all the time to 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.880 talk about native land. And every time that's happened, I've 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.280 been thinking like how you gonna feel when you're not 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.400 a part of it anymore and people stop you and say, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.480 I love native Land, but I know that these guys 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.360 are amazing and the audience will continue to grow, uh, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.640 and I'll be among the audience. So I didn't want 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.359 to get through a whole show without letting the audience 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.920 know that. So thank you guys, most importantly my tribe, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.680 because every time I said something, y'all were always in 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.400 my d MS and in the comments. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.440 Or supporting one or the other. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:08.960 Yes. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:10.440 And I didn't even mind the arguing. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:14.040 I didn't mind the disagreement, and I definitely appreciated the 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.960 support because sometimes it is like I'm the only person 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.240 who feels away, and you know, I see oh the audience, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.599 and I think for all of us, I always say, like, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.159 whatever you say, however, you feel somebody out there. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.200 Supports you and agrees with you. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:28.560 So it was just great to be able to be 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.640 transparent and authentic here for two years, one hundred and 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.640 what episode is this twelve. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:38.960 Day? 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:42.000 That's so rude? 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.320 Andrew, I think they just fizzled. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.920 Well, speaking of not fizzling, do you guys have encouraging 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.599 words that you like to share for our girl. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.040 Tif Oh she staying for the rest of the show. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:57.560 Yeah, she said, if you don't mind, is one last hur. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.920 Is the consummate journalist era that hearkens back to where 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.359 we need to be. And so I think her beauty, 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:10.080 her character, her intellect, the treasure that she is will 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.200 find a home where she makes it. A lot of 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.400 people have to look for homes like those dogs. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:25.440 You like, Yeah, you know, continue anyway. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.680 But you you can build your home and it's going 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.440 to be wherever your feet land. So I don't you 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:38.960 leaving this show. I have nothing but selfish feelings about it. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.520 I have no heartburn, no heartache, no disdain because I 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.760 know that you're going to be okay. Now, the three 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.240 of us, we're going to have some grieving moments. They 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:53.840 won't last long, but they but we will miss you 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.840 and everything that you bring to us. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:56.680 Thank you. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.240 I'll miss you, guys. I'm trying to tag along on 0:07:59.280 --> 0:07:59.920 some of these things. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.000 I just want to let the record reflect I've been 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:08.480 against us from the start. When Tiffany began telling me 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:14.080 that she's been feeling a calling toward journalism, toward this 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:20.560 very sacred space of truth and facts in a world 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:30.720 that is bathing, drowning, and people's individual interpretations and narratives 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:31.920 with no regard for. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:33.200 True fact history. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.960 I feel very very very very very toward today because 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:49.040 this experience was really forged through pretty traumatic experiences for 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.400 each of us, and we, of course it shared those 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.360 experiences with the with the audience in. 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:57.000 Our own way. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:03.560 And you know, when you when you lose someone from 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.440 that sort of trauma bond, even though we had bonds before, 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:11.120 but they weren't There's something particular and special and unique 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:17.080 and traumatic about a trauma bond, and that when a 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:24.000 piece of that uh changes the environment, it does feel 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.120 like a part of you is pulled away. And that's 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:34.920 what I feel. But I know that that that you're 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.640 going to continue to take me to dinners, yes, and 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:42.360 feed me good Maybe an occasional walk every now and again. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.600 Yeah, I'll be there. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.520 I'll be the only thing. 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.400 I'll be there, warning all of the approaching dog parents 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.520 to police, turn around the other way. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.680 Ganger danger, danger, danger of love. 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.320 But Tiffany, you are You're You're better than a professional. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.640 You're the best of us, I mean us are people. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:12.720 You're the best of us. 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.040 And you didn't just become that you've been that, and 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:23.160 I'm just really really thankful to God and obviously you 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:29.120 Angela for creating this space where we could take the 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.320 first step and then the second step and then the 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:33.400 third step. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:34.920 Out of. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:42.720 The holes that we shrouded ourselves in. Not so much Tiffany, 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.479 but definitely me. She's a you know, she's a butterfly. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.839 You know what I'm gonna miss most. And I tell 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.679 you this, I think that although I feel like your 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.320 opinions are opposite mine a lot, I feel like you 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.800 hit on where the majority of people are and that 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:08.680 is a talent. That's a skill, and that's an endowment 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:15.240 of a gift. Most importantly, and so long as that 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:20.359 north star continues the guide you, your instincts, your guttural instincts, 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.520 led by truth and your honesty, which I think is 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:32.000 bar none, not only will you have an audience, but 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.600 God is going to continue to expand your territory. I 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:39.560 believe it. It's already done. It's a matter of just 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:40.320 walking in it. 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:41.000 That's it. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.160 I love you, and I miss you, and I'm not 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:46.960 going anywhere because there's nothing you can do about it. 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:49.400 I don't want to see too. 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.640 And Amen, because I really don't know what the audience 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:52.720 curation looks like. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:53.280 So thank you. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.760 I appreciate those words of encouragement. That's going to be 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.760 harassing Angela every other day. You got whatever I do. 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.440 Next, follow us real, Yeah, and you're real. 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.280 They'll get that you're well. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:09.880 Tiff there definitely would not be a native Lampid without you. 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.800 You are a key part of what makes Welcome Home 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.880 feel like an authentic experience, a place where people can 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.559 be safe to disagree, definitely not debate, though. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:21.720 We don't do that. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:23.800 Never, No, we do, but Tiff does. 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.640 Not to box with guys. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.439 Well you know Peaches and her. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:38.240 Okay, got it, but I guess that, you know, I 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.120 really want people to understand how important it is for 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.880 you to be leading in this way and hopefully for 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.520 other folks at home to follow suit. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.080 You have to pursue and follow your dreams, your way. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.679 When you talk to us on the phone, I think 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.400 we all agreed the most important thing is your happiness 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.360 right now, and I want you to be happy. I've 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:03.520 you know, watched you suffer a lot personally, professionally in 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.440 so many ways. And if there's anything that we have 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.720 done even at this juncture, like some things are for 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.080 a season. So even at this juncture, to stand in 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.920 the way of your progress, your joy, and your happiness, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:16.360 we don't want to ever be in a way of that, 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:18.920 and so I want people to know that as she's 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.800 building the thing that feels most authentic to her, please 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.840 continue to offer commentary. You know, Tiff is going to 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.000 be building and flying at the same time, because that's 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.280 the era we live in right now, where we don't 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.160 have the formula for a and OP right now. It 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.360 continues to shift and we move each week. Things change. 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.880 Sometimes the show feels too heavy to us too, and 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.960 so we're navigating you know, that funny with the ratchet, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.800 with the real serious, with the counter and of the lies, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:47.120 with the debate whether we bring a conservative bond or not. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.040 And you're going to go and do all of that 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:50.679 on your own, and you're going to be great at it. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.760 And we will absolutely carve out, create and maintain space 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.640 for you here as a guest or as a guest 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.840 host when you come back, but also as you know, 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.280 an entity that is going to be growing with you. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.240 And so we do that as a team, even if 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.719 it's not on this particular show. Perhaps it'll be a 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.200 shared platform, but regardless, we're gonna be lifting up what 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.359 you do. And so I'm very thankful for your sisterhood, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.320 for the many ways in which you've taught us, and 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.480 you continue to teach us by example, even we don't 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.640 like it sometimes, you know, but we know we're challenged 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:29.880 to be the very best versions of ourselves professionally and 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:30.680 as your friends. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:31.760 So thank you. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.400 And my sister and I just want to say again, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.680 I just appreciate you guys so much because the past 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.920 two years have been challenging but also fun, you know, 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.440 like we laugh all the time, and there are definitely 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.440 times where there is no different me, you know, like 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.960 if the cameras rolling or not, you get the same version. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.320 And so there are times where people will come up 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.680 to me and reference something very personal. They're like, oh, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.400 I heard you like saying this on or you were 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.520 telling Angela something and I'm like that was. 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.960 A private conversation. Can you mind your business? You know, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.160 And I'm like, oh, id that on the. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.680 Podcast in the living room they were sitting. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.400 We feel like that with you all, Like I forget 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.040 that there is an audience out there listening. And so 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.200 when I'm out in public and someone will reference my 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.680 tears or just you know, something personal. It can feel 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.440 briefly invasive, you know, because I really feel like it's 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.880 just us talking and connecting, and that's the space that 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.520 you all provided. That's why we say welcome home to 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.520 the viewers, and so I'm just grateful for for each 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.440 of you. It doesn't feel like goodbye at all, because 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.520 I mean, Angela and I probably still gonna talk every day. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.680 Our group chat were flooded four times. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.040 My message Angela, She's gonna as I was. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.960 You did say you were. Let me say why. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.080 I have advice, but let me say why. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.120 Angela founded the network reason Choice Media, and so she 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.360 is building podcasts and doesn't transparency. We don't know where 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.720 my show is going to be. Like we're all having conversations. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.640 Stay tuned to the end of the show. You might 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.440 get some news. But she has a lens that I 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.480 don't have, so that is why. And we might disagree 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.240 on content, but you know, she might say you should 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.280 do that. I feel like I've we were talking about 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.000 other week that I was trying to control her show, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.880 her solo pod. I'm like, no, you can do this 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.640 topic blah blah blah. So I feel like we'll have 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.120 to kind of exchanges. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:25.880 You don't remember that. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:27.320 I saw it. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:28.120 It was beautiful. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.920 We were on the phone, we were getting off our call, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.400 and you were talking about stuff you should do. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.040 And I wasn't even supposed to be on the call anymore. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:35.480 I was supposed to drop off and I'm trying to 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.280 produce I do and I'm like, no, you can do 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:39.920 that this week because blah blah blah blah blah. I'm 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.840 like this, ame, mo, let me go. You know, stay, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.800 We'll do that for each other. Obviously, for my lawyer, 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.120 Beyonce is the star. He's always going to tell me 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.000 how to be a superstar. But Curry, I'm always going 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.640 to reference you and ask your opinion and thoughts. You've 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.760 even when I haven't, you get you got. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.000 Sometimes giving me a superstars. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:07.600 Recognize the superstars just just watch out for the Billables. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.840 But you've given me advice about appearing on CNN and 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.280 in different places. You've given me advice about who an 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.440 audience should be like. So you've definitely poured into me 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:26.840 and that Andrew and I I just I feel taken 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:28.159 care of when we're together. 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:29.640 I feel like we. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:34.960 Connect on a very soulful level and can share and 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.920 just the human connection part of our relationship is not 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.280 ever going to go anywhere. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.520 And I literally am going to tag along. 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.280 If Angela's oh, we're doing some podcast conference in San Diego, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.120 I'm like, Okay, I'm going. I'm booking a ticket. I'm 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.000 going just to be kicking it with you guys. So 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.159 I don't feel like this is a farewell, Like I 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.560 think our business relationship will continue in some capacity, and 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.520 I know our personal relationships will because it's been decades already. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.040 So we're happy New Year. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.359 Want to make y'all we got a whole show to 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:04.679 get to. 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:06.840 I love y'all back, and I want to I know 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:07.960 we'll do this at the end of the show, but 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:12.359 I do want to thank Nick, our producer, who cares 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.920 so much about this show. And it's just it's hard 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.240 to find people to work with who care as much 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.320 as you do, and it's easy to like complain about 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.040 the talent, and you know, Nick is in the trenches 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.359 with us, and so I really want to thank you 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.280 Nick for that Lolo you guys know, Lolo who catches everything. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:35.600 That was also very supportive of each of us and is. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.800 A dog mom, So I love Lolo. 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:43.200 Lauren Hansen, our executive producer, will show up in spaces 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.239 that we didn't ask her to, but she shows up 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.720 because she believes in this platform, the PDP program that 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.560 Angela started. It's just young people and I see them 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:53.600 sometimes and they'll say, hey. 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.680 I'm an Angela's PDP program, Like oh hi. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.600 It's a whole community of them who you know, donate 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.439 their time to make this show great too. So I 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.800 just want to let them know from the bottom of 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.879 my heart how much I appreciate you guys, and I 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:07.800 hope that we will all continue to be in touch 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:20.440 as though. Let's get to the rest of the show 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.960 because it's the end of the year and we want 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:27.440 to have some fun looking back at all the memories 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:28.120 we've created. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.720 A couple of fights, probably it was we had a lot. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:33.920 Of beef this year. We were beefs. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.560 You know what started it? Let me tell you what 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:37.040 started it. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:39.560 Let me tell you what started This man had the 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.560 nerve to be sworn in on Martin Luther. 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:48.760 That's what started it. Liberation isn't beholden to a party. 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.520 It is it is only incumbent upon us to ensure 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:54.960 that we are always advocating for the best interests of 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.280 black people. Now, when your personal interests get in the 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.399 way of that, we got a problem, and we at 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:00.640 least need to have a conversation. 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.639 But this seems interesting because our inauguration episode. I was 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.000 reading the comments and everybody kept saying, yes, Angela agree 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:07.879 with you. Angela gradually make a point, and I was like, what, 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.600 I don't even remember because we had so many conversations. 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.119 I'm like, what is she saying. I watched and you 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.920 did have all the smoke for people who sat down 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.760 with Trump. You had all the smoke for President Biden 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.560 for even sitting next to him. And it does sound 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.080 a little bit like you're giving Snoop a pass or 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.919 you're giving Nelly a pass, when I don't know what 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.320 they've done to earn that pass. Like to me, I 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.520 just I just tried to explain it, like I think 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.560 I heard that, but you're but what you're doing is 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.600 extending them understanding that you you are not quick to 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.320 extend other people if they're. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.560 Oh, but you don't know that way. 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:50.399 I told y'all a month or so ago that I 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.560