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Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: There is a burden to speak in the truth. It

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Speaker 3: comes with a consequence.

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Speaker 4: Tiffany Cross, Tiffany Cross, Tiffany Cross.

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Speaker 5: Cross, Welcome home.

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Speaker 6: Y'all.

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Speaker 3: The people who shackled us, abused us, berated us, oppressed us,

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Speaker 3: suppressed us. Their descendants are not that far removed. I

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Speaker 3: see that you were not just okay with it, but

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Speaker 3: you celebrated it. It was a joke to you. I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at these white folks, I'm like, why you want

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Speaker 3: your kids to be dumbred in arts? Because I want

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Speaker 3: everyone in my life around me to be doing something dope.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why is because when I fall, they

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Speaker 3: gonna be in a position to catch me. The reason

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Speaker 3: why the United States is a superpower is because of enslavement.

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Speaker 5: Joe, there's no time, girls.

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Speaker 3: I told y'all, I've been ready, and Peaches and Earth

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Speaker 3: came out. So I do think that we have to

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Speaker 3: start considering how we want to exercise the buying power

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Speaker 3: of two trillion dollars in this country. Hit them where

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Speaker 3: it hurts and if you target white man's money, I

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Speaker 3: have to just feel like that's when you get attention.

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Speaker 3: First of all, Craig was kind of cute.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Craig.

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Speaker 3: If you're not receptive or curious, then you are likely

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Speaker 3: not my audience and I'm likely not yours. I am

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Speaker 3: curious about things I can learn from anybody, but I

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily respect everybody's opinion, and I don't think all

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Speaker 3: the people say I respect everybody's opinion.

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Speaker 5: You's a lie. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant women said this some years ago. And I think

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Speaker 3: these words are to be echoed right here, and that

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Speaker 3: is our.

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Speaker 7: Time is now.

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Speaker 3: Welcome home, guys.

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Speaker 5: Yes, this is our New Year's e show.

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Speaker 3: This is why Angela and I are sparkling, and why

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Speaker 3: these guys are doing their best to keep up with them.

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Speaker 5: Let's go okay, all right? So why do we start

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Speaker 5: out with all those clips?

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Speaker 3: I want to let everybody know this will be my

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Speaker 3: last show with Native Land Pod. I'm sad to say,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't have to be a sad occasion. When

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Speaker 3: Bakari joined, his one stipulation was he would not do

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Speaker 3: the show with me, and that's not true.

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Speaker 8: I did say there was going to be a fair

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Speaker 8: and we found out.

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Speaker 3: He put it in his contract. He said it can

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Speaker 3: only be one Beyonce on this table.

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Speaker 7: No I am.

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Speaker 3: I am leaving the show. I want to do more

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Speaker 3: things that I want to do by myself basically, but it's.

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Speaker 9: Some people.

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Speaker 3: I might be that person, yes maybe, but hopefully this

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Speaker 3: won't be the last time you see me here because

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Speaker 3: I want to come back as a guest. But I

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Speaker 3: want to thank my co host because I really move

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Speaker 3: your mic toe. Am I messing up already? I want

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Speaker 3: to thank my especially Angela, because I remember I didn't

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Speaker 3: really put a lot of thought into this, and Angela

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Speaker 3: was like, hey, we're gonna do a podcast.

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Speaker 5: Was going to be in it, and it was always.

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Speaker 3: Supposed to be this group that you see right now.

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Speaker 3: And but but Pa Cary was tied up. Yes he

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Speaker 3: was getting the bag when I'm mad at that, and

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Speaker 3: then he joins, this is how it was always supposed

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Speaker 3: to be. And so I'm just thankful to you for

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Speaker 3: inviting me to this platform. And you know, if it

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Speaker 3: weren't for this space, I would have felt voiceless. And

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Speaker 3: I just like, since my show has been canceled, You've

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Speaker 3: been a constant at my side of you know when,

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Speaker 3: like literally in Atlanta we even had a little security

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Speaker 3: guard with us. I won't say no names, but people

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Speaker 3: were like just surrounded me. But Angela was the one

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Speaker 3: constant there. So doing this work has been amazing, and

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Speaker 3: I'm just thankful that it doesn't mean we won't see

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Speaker 3: each other or talk because our friendships predate the podcast.

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Speaker 3: They exist beyond the podcast. I think will always have

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Speaker 3: some sort of work and relationship. Really, truly, I'm not

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Speaker 3: being coy. I really don't know what the next steps

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Speaker 3: to Angela about it, getting her advice on what it

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Speaker 3: A lot of you have asked, you know, why don't

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Speaker 3: you bring it back the cross connection, And I would

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Speaker 3: get so annoyed because I'm like, do.

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Speaker 5: People think I got a network? You know, like God

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Speaker 5: does his work?

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Speaker 3: And younger people really look at me like does she

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Speaker 3: not get it? You know, like nobody's watching networks anymore.

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Speaker 3: Like you literally have the ability to do this now,

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Speaker 3: and so I'm figuring all that out, and thankfully you've

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Speaker 3: been in the space a lot longer, so I'll definitely

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Speaker 3: be bugging Angela a lot. Chris Morrow, who's the founder

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Speaker 3: of Reason Choice Media, I'll definitely plan on bothering him.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Leonard for founding the network with Angela and Chris,

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Speaker 3: And to Bakari and Andrew, I'll just say you're welcome

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Speaker 3: for all the knowledge I've given you both yes, and

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Speaker 3: for carrying you both.

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Speaker 5: Yes every episode.

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Speaker 3: It's hard work and carrying you guys, but I did

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Speaker 3: want to let the audience know kick off the show

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Speaker 3: and let the audience know that it's not a sad

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Speaker 3: occasion because, like I said, you'll see me back here.

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Speaker 3: I hope these guys I'll be begging to come on.

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Speaker 5: I think we're booked okay to play. I'll take y'all out.

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Speaker 3: I want to do an in person show though the balloon.

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Speaker 3: Watch her pop the balloon show and please keep tuning

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Speaker 3: in a Native lamp. I'll be experiencing how you guys

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Speaker 3: do as an audience member. And so many people stop me.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is also like the like thirst for audiences

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Speaker 3: because so many people stop me all the time to

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Speaker 3: talk about native land. And every time that's happened, I've

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Speaker 3: been thinking like how you gonna feel when you're not

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Speaker 3: a part of it anymore and people stop you and say,

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Speaker 3: I love native Land, but I know that these guys

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Speaker 3: are amazing and the audience will continue to grow, uh,

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Speaker 3: and I'll be among the audience. So I didn't want

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Speaker 3: to get through a whole show without letting the audience

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Speaker 3: know that. So thank you guys, most importantly my tribe,

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Speaker 3: because every time I said something, y'all were always in

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Speaker 3: my d MS and in the comments.

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Speaker 7: Or supporting one or the other.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't even mind the arguing.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mind the disagreement, and I definitely appreciated the

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Speaker 3: support because sometimes it is like I'm the only person

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Speaker 3: and I think for all of us, I always say, like,

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Speaker 3: whatever you say, however, you feel somebody out there.

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Speaker 5: Supports you and agrees with you.

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Speaker 3: So it was just great to be able to be

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Speaker 3: transparent and authentic here for two years, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: what episode is this twelve.

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Speaker 2: Day?

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Speaker 7: That's so rude?

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Speaker 6: Andrew, I think they just fizzled.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of not fizzling, do you guys have encouraging

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Speaker 1: words that you like to share for our girl.

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Speaker 6: Tif Oh she staying for the rest of the show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she said, if you don't mind, is one last hur.

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Speaker 8: Is the consummate journalist era that hearkens back to where

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Speaker 8: we need to be. And so I think her beauty,

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Speaker 8: her character, her intellect, the treasure that she is will

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Speaker 8: find a home where she makes it. A lot of

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Speaker 10: You like, Yeah, you know, continue anyway.

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Speaker 8: But you you can build your home and it's going

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Speaker 8: to be wherever your feet land. So I don't you

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Speaker 8: leaving this show. I have nothing but selfish feelings about it.

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Speaker 8: I have no heartburn, no heartache, no disdain because I

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Speaker 8: know that you're going to be okay. Now, the three

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Speaker 8: of us, we're going to have some grieving moments. They

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Speaker 8: won't last long, but they but we will miss you

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Speaker 8: and everything that you bring to us.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'll miss you, guys. I'm trying to tag along on

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Speaker 5: some of these things.

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Speaker 2: I just want to let the record reflect I've been

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Speaker 2: against us from the start. When Tiffany began telling me

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Speaker 2: that she's been feeling a calling toward journalism, toward this

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Speaker 2: very sacred space of truth and facts in a world

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Speaker 2: that is bathing, drowning, and people's individual interpretations and narratives

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Speaker 2: with no regard for.

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Speaker 9: True fact history.

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Speaker 2: I feel very very very very very toward today because

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Speaker 2: this experience was really forged through pretty traumatic experiences for

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Speaker 2: each of us, and we, of course it shared those

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Speaker 2: experiences with the with the audience in.

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Speaker 6: Our own way.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when you when you lose someone from

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Speaker 2: that sort of trauma bond, even though we had bonds before,

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Speaker 2: but they weren't There's something particular and special and unique

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Speaker 2: what I feel. But I know that that that you're

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Speaker 2: going to continue to take me to dinners, yes, and

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Speaker 2: feed me good Maybe an occasional walk every now and again.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll be there.

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Speaker 7: I'll be the only thing.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there, warning all of the approaching dog parents

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Speaker 9: Ganger danger, danger, danger of love.

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Speaker 2: But Tiffany, you are You're You're better than a professional.

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Speaker 2: You're the best of us, I mean us are people.

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Speaker 9: You're the best of us.

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Speaker 2: And you didn't just become that you've been that, and

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Speaker 2: I'm just really really thankful to God and obviously you

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Speaker 2: Angela for creating this space where we could take the

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Speaker 2: first step and then the second step and then the

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Speaker 9: Out of.

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Speaker 2: The holes that we shrouded ourselves in. Not so much Tiffany,

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna miss most. And I tell

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Speaker 2: you this, I think that although I feel like your

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Speaker 2: hit on where the majority of people are and that

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Speaker 2: is a talent. That's a skill, and that's an endowment

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Speaker 2: of a gift. Most importantly, and so long as that

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Speaker 2: north star continues the guide you, your instincts, your guttural instincts,

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Speaker 2: led by truth and your honesty, which I think is

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Speaker 2: bar none, not only will you have an audience, but

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Speaker 2: God is going to continue to expand your territory. I

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Speaker 2: believe it. It's already done. It's a matter of just

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Speaker 9: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I love you, and I miss you, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: going anywhere because there's nothing you can do about it.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to see too.

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Speaker 3: And Amen, because I really don't know what the audience

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Speaker 3: curation looks like.

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Speaker 5: So thank you.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate those words of encouragement. That's going to be

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Speaker 3: harassing Angela every other day. You got whatever I do.

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Speaker 9: Next, follow us real, Yeah, and you're real.

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Speaker 7: They'll get that you're well.

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Speaker 1: Tiff there definitely would not be a native Lampid without you.

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Speaker 1: My point is that I don't like what Nellie said

444
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Speaker 1: in defense of his position around Trump, and I really

445
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: don't like what he said about Kamala Harris, and so

446
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Speaker 1: I do not take the same posture Snoop.

447
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Speaker 7: I think is different, and I just want.

448
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Speaker 1: People to at least engage around the nuance. I think

449
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Speaker 1: that there are some things that are not that cut

450
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Speaker 1: and dry. It was not an official event. He wasn't

451
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Speaker 1: sold in the way that it would be an official event.

452
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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to teg my posture on that.

453
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Speaker 1: Y'all can be mad at me. Will agree on the

454
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Speaker 1: next topic, Let's go to it.

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Speaker 2: So what I loved about that clip, yeah, was something

456
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Speaker 2: that Tiffany does so well and is consistent for doing.

457
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Speaker 9: Across the board. No, she's a journalist. She goes straight

458
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Speaker 9: to the to the contradiction. She goes straight to it.

459
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Speaker 9: And it's not just with then with every single what

460
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Speaker 9: book car you know, you kind of fresh.

461
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Speaker 6: So all she can do is you can still smell

462
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Speaker 6: a baby powder, you know this.

463
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Speaker 9: On your white chest and everything.

464
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Speaker 6: But you go.

465
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Speaker 2: I think that's so important for a platform like this

466
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Speaker 2: that the audience knew that between the conversation, nobody was

467
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Speaker 2: gonna get left. No one's gonna get off the hook

468
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Speaker 2: if you if you go that.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of hooks, who somebody says she had peaches

470
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Speaker 1: in herb but it's never tried to throw their thus

471
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Speaker 1: on TV.

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Speaker 3: So she said, are you trying to say I don't

473
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Speaker 3: care about starving children? And I said, well, it certainly

474
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Speaker 3: doesn't sound like it. So during the commercial break, this

475
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Speaker 3: is where things went left, and pray for her that

476
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Speaker 3: I was on the panel that night and not either

477
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Speaker 3: of my co hosts. Particularly into a She turns to

478
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Speaker 3: me and puts her hands on me, puts her hands

479
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Speaker 3: on my shoulder and has her fingers like this close

480
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Speaker 3: to my face and is like, honey, do not say

481
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Speaker 3: that I don't care about starving children. So already my

482
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Speaker 3: blood is boiling, but I'm trying to contain myself because to.

483
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Speaker 5: Me, I feel like this is violence.

484
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Speaker 3: You're touching me without my permission, and you have your

485
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Speaker 3: fingers a little too close to my face for comfort,

486
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Speaker 3: and so I say, get your hands off me, do

487
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Speaker 3: not touch me, and move your fingers from my face.

488
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Speaker 3: I move your fingers out of my face. And she says,

489
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Speaker 3: you're saying I don't care about starving children. She's going

490
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Speaker 3: on and on, and I was like, you are complicit

491
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Speaker 3: in what's happening. You are intentionally stating things that are

492
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Speaker 3: not facts, and shame on you.

493
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Speaker 5: And she is escalating and she says you Okay.

494
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Speaker 3: In my best self, I would have flown so above

495
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Speaker 3: that I would have just been like wow, like what

496
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Speaker 3: a you know, immature person that you can't contain your

497
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Speaker 3: emotions that way, Like how immature and silly, and you

498
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Speaker 3: look stupid and ignorant, and you will not you will

499
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Speaker 3: not take my dignity.

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Speaker 5: Sadly, that is not what happened, and I lose it.

501
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I ain't got nothing totwork.

502
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Speaker 3: It was a commercial break on Abby show, and this

503
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Speaker 3: woman was literally regurgitating IDF talking points trying to say

504
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Speaker 3: that they were showing Palestinian children who had like genetic disorders,

505
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Speaker 3: who weren't really starving, just disgusting things that aren't even

506
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Speaker 3: worth repeating. And during a commercial break she confronted me.

507
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Speaker 3: And instead of them saying, ma'am, you have.

508
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Speaker 5: Across the line.

509
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Speaker 3: You need to leave the set, they had the temerity Abby,

510
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Speaker 3: the producers, everybody's like, oh, Tiffany and whatever her name was,

511
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Speaker 3: Tiffany and Jail whatever. It was like, guys calmed down,

512
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Speaker 3: like we were both equally at fault, like I was

513
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Speaker 3: a child, you know, to be scolded. I'm telling you

514
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Speaker 3: it's a problem. I remember Scott saying that to you

515
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Speaker 3: one time.

516
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Speaker 6: No what about Matt.

517
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Speaker 3: MaTx Slapp called you boy, but you touched Scott and

518
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Speaker 3: he was like, don't touch me, and you were like, I.

519
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Speaker 5: Can't touch you.

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Speaker 8: That was his sense of dry humor. Though, okay, but

521
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Speaker 8: because we like laughed about that. But mats lapping, I did.

522
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Speaker 6: Get into it. He called me boy doing a break

523
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Speaker 6: during a break.

524
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Speaker 5: I thought it was on air.

525
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Speaker 6: He was doing a break. He said bring it boy,

526
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Speaker 6: and it was.

527
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Speaker 7: Did you did you bring it back up? On the show?

528
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Speaker 6: I wrote about it.

529
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like I saw what did you say

530
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Speaker 1: in the moment, not in a moment when he said.

531
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Speaker 5: Bring it boy? Whatever? How did you?

532
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Speaker 8: I was like that you tripping man? And then Don

533
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 8: Lemon was it was it was a long time ago.

534
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 8: Donald was a host, and Donald was.

535
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Speaker 6: Like did I just hear what he just said?

536
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Speaker 8: And he was like, okay, I just take a walk

537
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 8: real quick. Let's go ahead because we had like this moment.

538
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 8: So I went off and I called somebody who is

539
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 8: like over all of us, and I was like, I'm

540
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 8: not coming back home with mad again.

541
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Speaker 6: And they never invited him back.

542
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Speaker 3: Wow, that's at least they won't advise some people. How

543
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: would you have handled that situation? Which one the one

544
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: where she put her hands on you, was like, don't I.

545
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Speaker 1: Would say, I highly recommend that you back up out

546
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Speaker 1: of my face.

547
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Speaker 5: What if har responds just you, I would just like this.

548
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Speaker 7: Kicked the chair.

549
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Speaker 6: You been since Stiffy, I have we multiple times.

550
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 7: We had talked about it on the show.

551
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: No I won't go on You went back on the

552
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 5: show multiple times many times. That was one of the

553
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 5: pointing out contraditions.

554
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Speaker 6: And you will continue to go on Live with Carry

555
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 6: was like, no, I'm.

556
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Speaker 7: Gonna be the journalist.

557
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: We talked about it too, because I was saying before

558
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: I was on, Abby Shaw was like I don't like it,

559
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: like it's the Jerry Springer political TV blah blah blah.

560
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 5: I'm like, I wouldn't do that show. And then I

561
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 5: did the show and when.

562
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Speaker 3: I was talking about it and Angela was like, you

563
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: said you wouldn't do that show, and I.

564
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 5: Was like, I did.

565
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Speaker 3: And I remember the night I did the show, I

566
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: was mad at Angela because he dropped in our group

567
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: ta yeah you guys, SIF is on And I was

568
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: not advertising that I was doing the show, trying to

569
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: sneak in and sneak out.

570
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Speaker 5: But I didn't want my girls. I just I didn't

571
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Speaker 5: want people to like wh you continue to do it.

572
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 5: I'm conflicted. Every week.

573
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Speaker 7: I promise, well, let's not make this New York show

574
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 7: about that.

575
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: But what I will say, what we what we have acknowledged,

576
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: even you know, the show that we did at the

577
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: beginning of the month, we talked about the contradictions that

578
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: we all walked in, including uh these So you know

579
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: there's that.

580
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 6: I think that you should do more TV.

581
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 8: I think that you're really you're beautiful, you're smart, and

582
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 8: when you open your mouth people.

583
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Speaker 5: Listen to put us on together?

584
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 6: You was God, no, no, no, I don't want to

585
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 6: be on with you.

586
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 7: But the idea like to get work.

587
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: Each of us to do that show individually and then

588
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: we all go on together.

589
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: That was so are you going to do this next time?

590
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: Andrew Gillam ain't coming on that show.

591
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 7: He would do it if it was all of us.

592
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 5: Oh, I mean if it was just us, sure, they're

593
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 5: never going to do.

594
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 6: They never gonna do that.

595
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what they said they were going to do.

596
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Speaker 5: And I don't think they would ever put me a

597
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: anseel on together.

598
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Speaker 6: I would love different people. I would love to see

599
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 6: y'all one together.

600
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 7: Okay, all right.

601
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Speaker 6: I mean listen, literally, I mean, I don't even know

602
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Speaker 6: if they would get to.

603
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 9: A commercial high yellow can't.

604
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Speaker 7: Would you bring that?

605
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Speaker 4: No?

606
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Speaker 6: I what is the no.

607
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Speaker 9: We're talking about?

608
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Speaker 6: You know what? We're going to Angela's speech. I don't

609
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 6: know what the hell you pulled.

610
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 13: That out of.

611
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Speaker 10: Me?

612
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 7: And they're talking about I got job.

613
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Speaker 6: You're not you you you were? There's original, You're not

614
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Speaker 6: really job.

615
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Speaker 5: Jesus anyway, this is this is.

616
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Speaker 6: One of the original have you smelled.

617
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Speaker 4: It?

618
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Speaker 3: One of the I'm moving us along. One of the

619
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Speaker 3: things that I love about this show. One of my

620
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: favorite moments is when I get to sit back and

621
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: listen and be so overwhelmed and impressed by something.

622
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Speaker 5: You all say, You're welcome, well, thank you do it

623
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 5: a lot.

624
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Speaker 3: But the one time I'm representing this time is during

625
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Speaker 3: our cover of the Congressional Black Hautage, Antela was honored

626
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: with the Phoenix Award. Yes that the Phoenix Awards dinner,

627
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: and before we wrap that show, she said, you know,

628
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Speaker 3: I want to give my speech at the end of

629
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Speaker 3: the show. I'll say, okay, great, you know, I'm not

630
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: really thinking about it. I'm like, okay, sure, Like let's

631
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: all hear the speech. And while she was given that speech,

632
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: I was choked up. I just felt like, oh my god,

633
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: I'm so overwhelmed by this speech.

634
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: So you guys take a listen.

635
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Speaker 7: Good evening.

636
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Speaker 1: I stand before you as the first former executive director

637
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: recipient of the CBC Foundation's Phoenix Award.

638
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: This award is not just for me.

639
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: It belongs to every ancestor who refused to quit, every

640
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: elder who told the truth, and every young person daring

641
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: to dream beyond the failures of what America has promised.

642
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: You are called now more than ever, CBC, to not

643
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: just be the conscience of the Congress, but even more

644
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: to be the conscience of our community.

645
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 7: Let us move forward together.

646
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: Refusing to shrink, refusing to be silenced, refusing to be divided,

647
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: because we were.

648
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 7: Made for this moment. Thank you for this great honor.

649
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 7: All power to the people. Welcome home, y'all. All right?

650
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Speaker 8: Can I also point out one thing. Can you see

651
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 8: the difference in the buns, Andrew?

652
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Speaker 14: Did you see the first likely lightly brushed this one?

653
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Speaker 6: Now that bun that was that was Now that that

654
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 6: was the first one. The first one was a fight

655
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Speaker 6: that this bun was. We're gonna be stunning there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate y'all.

657
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Speaker 1: I will say that I'm very grateful for you all

658
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Speaker 1: affording me the opportunity to give my acceptance speech on

659
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Speaker 1: the podcast, because just like Ruer Ramon and the Democratic

660
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: National Convention did not get to deliver her remarks, the

661
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Speaker 1: CBC Foundation did not let me Rangel take a speech

662
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Speaker 1: that evening.

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Speaker 6: She said, She said, I'm so happy to be standing.

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Speaker 7: Don't be delivering a speech from profter.

665
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Speaker 9: I got to hear your take a speech on your solo.

666
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Speaker 6: Yes, fantastic, is amazing.

667
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Speaker 8: Really shout out to Joe she she goes way anyway.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows Joe.

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Speaker 7: Takes shut out South Carolina.

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Speaker 8: I was because I was going to say she was

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Speaker 8: the first black female s J president.

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Speaker 5: Oh, she was that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that we had Harry Walker as Harry Walker,

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Speaker 2: Steve Benjamin, Joe Teka.

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Speaker 3: Harry Walker was the head of the m OK Foundation. Yes, no,

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Speaker 3: what am I thinking of?

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Speaker 7: You're thinking about?

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Speaker 6: Harry Walker was one of the first black executs. Ibm

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Speaker 6: oh his name?

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Speaker 5: You know who I'm talking about?

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Speaker 7: Alford Alfred? Is it less than Alfred?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Steve Benjamin was in the mayor uh

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Speaker 5: and jil take it. It's gonna take a scene. Beautiful.

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Speaker 1: She's so talented, but she and the founder with black women.

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Speaker 6: She introduced and kicked down doors for black women and

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Speaker 6: black people. I don't like.

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Speaker 8: I don't hate when people narrow the scope like that,

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Speaker 8: but black people in Silicon Valley.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Harry Johnson, Harry Johnson saying here, that's what I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking of, So strike that.

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Speaker 5: Wait when not talking about that?

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Speaker 3: I want to go back to Candela's clip about the speech,

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Speaker 3: because that was one of those times where I was

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Speaker 3: listening and I said this on the show then, But

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Speaker 3: I'm like, please tell me it took you months to

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Speaker 3: write that speech, because it would take me months to

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Speaker 3: write something like that.

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Speaker 5: So how long did it take you to write that?

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Speaker 9: Especially that I stand here?

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Speaker 1: You're standing here When I was sitting there again, I

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Speaker 1: thought I was going to be on the stage saying that,

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Speaker 1: uh that week.

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Speaker 7: Wow, I didn't know that about their word for long.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I feel that way.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations on the award. I know that meant a lot

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Speaker 6: to you.

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Speaker 8: Well, I know, I know I know the people who

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Speaker 8: mean a lot to Angela Raie, and I can tell

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Speaker 8: you that out of her top ten.

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Speaker 6: I'm assuming over fifty percent of members.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love my members, so many of them, so

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Speaker 1: many of them. Yes, we had a centennial moment this year.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five, we had one hundred episodes, and

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Speaker 1: on the one hundredth we had a by day.

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Speaker 7: Makari joined us. Let's roll.

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Speaker 9: That is that right on our hundred Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we let them on. That's why I don't know

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Speaker 7: the lead.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 8: Welcome to another episode of the Native Land Podcast. This

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Speaker 8: week is our hundredth episode, and we're so proud to

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Speaker 8: be here and joining you guys as we always do,

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Speaker 8: to talk about everything that's going on in the culture

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Speaker 8: around us, politically, sports, entertainment, all those good things.

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Speaker 5: Andrew, you look so different.

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Speaker 6: Andrew ain't never looked as good.

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Speaker 9: Do you remember how I used to tell you that.

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Speaker 6: People's the thing.

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Speaker 9: We were the same person and not a physically in

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Speaker 9: the same space.

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Speaker 8: Brother.

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Speaker 6: That's good to see. I'm glad to you one of

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Speaker 6: the number as they say where we're from.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, Vacari, I was felt thrilled when you joined the

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Speaker 3: show because Andrew needed consistently, because Andrew needed we needed another.

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Speaker 7: That's not what she's saying.

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Speaker 1: She's saying that people they do say often in our

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Speaker 1: comments that we're double teaming Andrew, or we don't let

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Speaker 1: him get a word in or whatever, and then every

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Speaker 1: now and then the comments are accurate.

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Speaker 7: They say, Andrew over talking all of the girls.

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Speaker 5: Andrew, get to your point. We love your point.

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Speaker 1: No, but it was it was good to have gender balance,

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Speaker 1: and we expressed that. I think on that mini pod

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Speaker 1: the day that we recorded, we had a topic that

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Speaker 1: Andrew did not want to broach again, although it ended

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Speaker 1: up being really it's like a really good mini pot

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Speaker 1: in which you had to offer was fantastic.

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Speaker 6: People like, I'm so glad he talked the black girl magic. Andrew, Yes,

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Speaker 6: can black girl magic?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 6: No, no, you know we're not going back there today.

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Speaker 5: I remember you said you didn't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 9: I didn't know, and you shared with the audience that

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Speaker 9: I didn't want to know.

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Speaker 11: I did that.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry it was me.

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Speaker 6: I'm so thankful to be with you.

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Speaker 5: I did I did it.

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Speaker 3: You were saying your concerned that if Andrew doesn't talk,

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Speaker 3: it will look like he was silent, right, and I

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Speaker 3: was saying well, just for transpancy for the audience. Andrew

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Speaker 3: said before this segment that he didn't want to do it,

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Speaker 3: but those are like honest moments that we.

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Speaker 7: Have on the show.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would like, said, y'all going to force

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Speaker 1: me to talk about it exactly likely not to talk

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Speaker 1: from me, you know.

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Speaker 6: But thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 2: I know that you know very every always, thank you every.

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Speaker 6: Now and then the show needs a little boost to

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Speaker 6: go from you know what.

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Speaker 10: True.

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Speaker 5: I think that's true.

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Speaker 7: I think that especially given the year that we had.

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Speaker 7: And this is not I don't think a dig on

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Speaker 7: any of us, but given the.

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Speaker 1: Year we had, we needed it felt monotonous, It felt

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Speaker 1: like we needed, Yeah, we need it up if we

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Speaker 1: needed some different, some shade, we needed, we needed some

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Speaker 1: man types of conversation.

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Speaker 7: And what a joke he is, you know, But no,

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Speaker 7: we wanted, you know, we wanted something different.

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Speaker 3: And I know you have a question for us. I

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Speaker 3: just want to say quickly something I really want the

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Speaker 3: audience to know about you. And I've said it before,

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Speaker 3: but just the work that you do as an attorney,

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Speaker 3: like you are committed. You are a son of the

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Speaker 3: civil rights movement, but you deeply care about our plight,

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Speaker 3: and I don't. I don't think everybody gets that from

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Speaker 3: you because you're so funny and you're making jokes a lot,

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Speaker 3: but you really are in the trenches a lot of times.

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Speaker 6: I love you, guys.

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Speaker 8: I think that you guys keep me humble as possible. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: keep it, Guccie, Are you talking about the shoes of

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Speaker 8: the jacket?

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Speaker 6: No, neither one.

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Speaker 1: Thing we know you're going to do is act like

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Speaker 1: you got an endorsement deal. When we saw him in Paris,

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Speaker 1: we do not know.

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Speaker 6: I was wearing Gucci in Paris.

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Speaker 7: That was he was, but dazzled and we looked like

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Speaker 7: a goddamn Christmas tree. We've been there. It looked like Vegas.

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Speaker 5: We are all over our little.

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Speaker 6: Politics.

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Speaker 5: We were at the game watching my girl I do.

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Speaker 6: I do everything I can do to support my my university.

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Speaker 7: Coon to come on the show. I love her.

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Speaker 1: You guys, we have to get through a lot of

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Speaker 1: clips and you said we don't have We have twelve

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Speaker 1: minutes left, so we're going.

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Speaker 6: I was going to ask, have y'all seen the Diddy documentary?

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Speaker 6: But we'll tie in.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to go, then you don't want to go,

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Speaker 5: but I haven't.

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Speaker 7: I'll leave. There's will She was absolutely, well, you know,

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Speaker 7: speaking of oh, yes, okay.

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Speaker 8: Speaking of just all the things that we've been through,

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Speaker 8: things that we didn't want to touch.

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Speaker 9: Six uh anyway, please, I was like, can I finish please?

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Speaker 6: Anyway. We did get into it with the Joe Button podcast.

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Speaker 6: It won't even really get into it.

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Speaker 8: It was just talking about the cultural things that happened

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Speaker 8: around as people thought we got into it.

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Speaker 6: But they're actually friends with friends of the show. They're

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Speaker 6: friends of the show.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm friends with Flip.

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Speaker 7: Now, I haven't talked to Joe.

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Speaker 5: I'm not friends with.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 6: Said a lot of tricky words. No, I don't say

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Speaker 6: regular words. That's tricky to you.

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Speaker 15: Tricky words. That's another thing you do. I'm saying you

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Speaker 15: say that you want to say that. I'm saying because

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Speaker 15: you ain't going to say that second, so I'm saying,

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Speaker 15: but I said the behavior, then we good to me?

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Speaker 6: Then then we good.

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Speaker 5: I know that was difficult to watch.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to play it for that clip, specifically because

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Speaker 3: there seems to be the death of black intellectualism, particularly

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Speaker 3: when it comes to who has a microphone and viral

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Speaker 3: clips like this take up so much space.

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Speaker 5: To me, it was clear that his co host felt.

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Speaker 3: Small, and you know, even him saying you use tricky

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Speaker 3: words and Mark responding with I use words that are

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Speaker 3: tricky to you.

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Speaker 16: The whole conversation around who's an intellectual and who's not intellectual.

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Speaker 16: My biggest issue with it was, well, damn, you know,

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Speaker 16: a person who's an intellectual should look at the whole

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Speaker 16: context of a situation before they have a conversation about it.

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Speaker 16: I feel like, you know, Andrew said one of the

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Speaker 16: strongest points last week when Andrew was like, I don't

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Speaker 16: watch the show enough to have an opinion about it.

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Speaker 3: My personal background aside, I want to say that as

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Speaker 3: a journalist before I bring up anything on this show,

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Speaker 3: I want our viewers to know I have and indeed

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Speaker 3: done my due diligence.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, Well, I thought that was fun.

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Speaker 8: You know. I thought it was fun because it highlighted

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Speaker 8: I think one of Tiffany's greater skill sets, which made

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Speaker 8: that show better and made us better. Because I think

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Speaker 8: that if and I do believe they did listen to

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Speaker 8: the critique of of Tiffany because she did something that

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Speaker 8: was very precise just kind of go down to the

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Speaker 8: essence of where people are, where we believe you should be,

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Speaker 8: and even when challenged and pushed on where we where

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Speaker 8: they think Tiffany should be, she held her ground. And

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Speaker 8: I just think that that particular and not fight exchange

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Speaker 8: showed thoroughly who she is. And I think that that

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Speaker 8: was you know, every now and then, when you're on

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Speaker 8: TV or you're on the pod, you have moments and

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Speaker 8: clips that elevate who you truly are your characters, show

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Speaker 8: them through, and I think that was one of them.

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Speaker 9: What do I feel like?

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious and I really wanted it from both

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Speaker 2: of you because I know y'all were talking about straight

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Speaker 2: bullets and.

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Speaker 12: Did it.

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Speaker 9: I know you're pretty resolute. When you say a thing,

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Speaker 9: you mean a thing.

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Speaker 6: Very rarely is that.

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Speaker 2: That's not a that's not a weather vein, right, But

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Speaker 2: when it, you know, when it comes down, which I

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Speaker 2: have to tell you, I just sort of didn't know about.

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Speaker 2: But I knew we had done the show. I didn't

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Speaker 2: know it was gonna be a thing. I'm curious how

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Speaker 2: you did you know it was going to be a thing?

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Speaker 12: I did.

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Speaker 5: I anticipated that it would be a thing.

893
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: I didn't anticipate that they would get the podcast taken down,

894
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: but I anticipated that the conversation would travel because so

895
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: many people had reference that shows to me and critique

896
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: and criticism, so and you know, there were a lot

897
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: of things that I had uncovered about the participants on

898
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: that show in doing background and listening to different segments

899
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: that I did not feel would be responsible to introduce

900
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: in the conversation. So I instead decided to focus on

901
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: the intellect. But I would just say, there are things

902
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: attached to some of the hosts on that show that

903
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: are very concerning, And so I stay rooted in how

904
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 3: I feel you think about congressmen, then congressomen Barbara Lee

905
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 3: now mayor Barbara Lee. I imagine she had to face

906
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: a lot when she was the sole vote against giving

907
00:43:54,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: you know, the A yeah, the am uf A yes.

908
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: And so, you know, because the way I tend to think,

909
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: I've debated myself, I've looked at everything I can.

910
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 5: I said, what if everything you're.

911
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 7: Saying debating yourself and you hate debating, Well.

912
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 5: Yes, because I do.

913
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Like I think about a thing, I'm not working it

914
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: out in real time. Like if I say a thing,

915
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: I've thought about it and I've debated myself sometimes it's like,

916
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: you know, if you're feeling away and I say, now

917
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 3: debate against yourself. Now argue the opposite point. Because I'm

918
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 3: never introducing a topic on this show that's so flimsy

919
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: it can't stand up to a different opinion.

920
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: I don't.

921
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 3: I don't take it first. I'm like, come at me,

922
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: bro with what you got, because I've already thought of

923
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: so in that space, when I get to that point,

924
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: it could be ninety nine people on this side, and

925
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: if I'm on this, I don't think like, oh, let

926
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 3: me rethink my thoughts. I think, well, this is ninety

927
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: nine wrong because on the side of this issue, this

928
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: is how I feel.

929
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: And yeah, no, the thing that I am, I am

930
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: conviction and my belief.

931
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm grateful for in that show is

932
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: that I did not watch that whole episode.

933
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 7: I watched that.

934
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: I watched that I'm talking about Joe Budden's whole episode.

935
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: I watched that full segment and then Leonard challenged me

936
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: to listen to their full show when they responded to us,

937
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: and it was very enlightening for me and I and I.

938
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: In fact, there was a moment where I was like,

939
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: I could empathize with their experience because of how many

940
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: times people have seen a clip of something that we

941
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: said and they didn't listen to the full context and

942
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: and and it's infuriating.

943
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 7: I was responding to somebody the other day.

944
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: He was like, why why you guys saying because we

945
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: called Mark and I asked him if he was an ahole,

946
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: and so people were like, well, why are you doing No,

947
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to and you know, New Year's resolutions,

948
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: and so the thing was is like, no, y'all, this

949
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: was an inside joke based on what Mark was saying

950
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: about Brian M.

951
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 7: Knight.

952
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: You know, but people don't look for contextques they just

953
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: are trying to get.

954
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 7: Get you at any point. And I was like, I

955
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 7: don't ever want us to be perceived in that way.

956
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: So anyway, it's just I appreciated that moment because something

957
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: that I thought was going to be a shallow.

958
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 7: Conversation forge new relationships like.

959
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: Flip will pop into my lives on IG sometimes I

960
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: pop into here, like I don't know what the hell

961
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: they'd be talking about, but I'd be like, hey, I'm here,

962
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: But it's just it's forged new opportunities to just commune

963
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: with people who I probably or nearly wouldn't.

964
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: Well, I did because I remember you saying that, like, oh,

965
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 3: you should watch the whole episode. I do remember watching

966
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: with the expectation that I would feel something because I

967
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: remember you saying Flip was like she's saying it's too

968
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: late for me to learn, yes, which I understand that moment,

969
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: but I had that to compare with a breath of

970
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: clips from him, and I found him to be incredibly

971
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: bullying and sometimes disrespectful towards women.

972
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 5: So it didn't counter my image.

973
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: I mean, believe me, there's a lot I could say

974
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: about some of the behavior of those particularly on people

975
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: who were hosts on the show, but also just things

976
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: that they've said, even getting into sexual assault and physical violence.

977
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: So I didn't change my mind.

978
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: I hope they were clear about on this show that

979
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: we don't condone any physical violence or sexual assault at all.

980
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: But I do think that we should all be responsible

981
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: enough to not just hear a clip.

982
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 7: I agree with that. Yeeah, and this is happening us

983
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 7: and it sucks.

984
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 13: Yeah.

985
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 9: I know this is the New Year's show, but I

986
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 9: wanted to dig in just for a moment on this.

987
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 6: Of course, as we're getting closer to that, the hell

988
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 6: loop ball is coming.

989
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 9: Down, the clouds are partying, and blah blah blah.

990
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: Hey listen, it's just that I don't think anybody is

991
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: that thing all the time three sixty five, twenty four

992
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: to seven, and and I don't know that I always

993
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: thought that. In fact, I know I didn't always say that.

994
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: I thought people you could be a racist, and you're

995
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: always that. Rather than that, rather than.

996
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 9: You acted like a racist, that thing was racist. Da

997
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 9: da da da da.

998
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: Because what it removes is the opportunity for people to

999
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: make a different choice. If you're always gonna call me this,

1000
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: if I'm always going to be that to you, what's

1001
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: the point in the atonement, What's the point in seeing

1002
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: something different, What's the point in approaching this through a

1003
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: different lens. It is I've experienced from having been the

1004
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: person judging and always being judged but not really caring

1005
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: in that way, right that when you do care, you

1006
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: really want to know that there is a path to

1007
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: redemption or to make a different decision. When I drop

1008
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: my Davis, particularly because he has bad mornings, he's just

1009
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: he's just gonna be curmudgety, mean baby. And when I

1010
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: drop him off, because it's usually a fight with his siblings.

1011
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: When I drop him off, I say, Davis, I want you.

1012
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 9: To have a great day. You have a choice.

1013
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: You can be mad from this moment to the end

1014
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: of the day, or you can choose right now when

1015
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: you get out of.

1016
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 9: The car to put on a smile and have.

1017
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 6: A good day.

1018
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 9: It's your choice. You can make it a good day.

1019
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 2: And I repeat it to him because I don't think

1020
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: he's going to get the big picture in the moment,

1021
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: but just to let him know, like you're not going

1022
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: You're not. You don't have to be the curmudgeonique dude

1023
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: all day. You don't have to be the mean guy.

1024
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 6: You don't have to be to this.

1025
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: You don't have to respond to people who aren't listening.

1026
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: You have a you have a choice to make. And

1027
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: I just think what that conversation illuminated, and that for me,

1028
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: I guess it was when we put when people are

1029
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: perceived be in a box, oftentimes you fight like a lion,

1030
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: a bear, a tiger, defending your turf, settling in your

1031
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: turf rather than saying, okay, let me pull up a minute.

1032
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: Just see where is there is there a choice for

1033
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 2: me to make here? And I just hope that folks

1034
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: found some grace.

1035
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: And speaking of grace and our consummate silver lining finder,

1036
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: let's throw this clip.

1037
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 5: You cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just

1038
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 5: one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does.

1039
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 7: But let's talk about the fact that when you can't

1040
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 7: slavery in America was what are you saying is incorrect

1041
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 7: by saying that every single thing is like, oh no, no, no,

1042
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 7: this is all because white people bad.

1043
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: There is an audience for exactly this kind of bullshit

1044
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 4: that that Michael spreads.

1045
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 6: But she's not the only one.

1046
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: We're getting it from black men and blackface who occupy

1047
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: only white spaces and who only intend to represent the

1048
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: interest the beliefs of white people who are at the

1049
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: apex of all of this simply offended and don't want

1050
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 4: their children to be offended by the history carried out

1051
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 4: by their ancestors. What I appreciate is that now that

1052
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 4: we know that this narrative drives fuels maybe a whole

1053
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: half of the country, then we can be better prepared

1054
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: when we come into contact with them about how we

1055
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: need to move, how we need to flow, and what

1056
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 4: checking we need to do real, live and in person

1057
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 4: when we hear it.

1058
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 3: But Andrew, you do really always find the silver lining

1059
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 3: and things. And I don't always agree with your conclusion,

1060
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: but I do think and I hear from a lot

1061
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: of people who feel like they might disagree with Angelett

1062
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: It might disagree with me, disagree with all right, but

1063
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: they're like, Andrew brings it home, like he makes this point.

1064
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: And I think that's a talent you have. So I'm

1065
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: happy that the viewers got to experience that somebody who

1066
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: never needs an invitation to a microphone is.

1067
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 7: Our brother who we love.

1068
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 5: Roland Martin.

1069
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.

1070
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 3: But Roe definitely has some thoughts on gen Z, which

1071
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: sparked quite the discussions.

1072
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 5: Let's hear from Uncle Roe.

1073
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 14: Gen X, Millennials, and gen Z. These are this is

1074
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 14: the generations that are what I call post Civil rights

1075
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 14: movement babies. Those three generations have been making withdraws from

1076
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 14: the Black Bank of Justice and have not made reciprocal deposits.

1077
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 7: Now follow me, Sada, say it damn again.

1078
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 9: I took I took the day off. I was in NASA.

1079
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you are that day. I forgot about that.

1080
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 7: He was being such a responsible dad Field trip Dad.

1081
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 7: That's great, Yeah, greas poor Davis.

1082
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 9: I don't know who's taking him.

1083
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: Well.

1084
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 5: Young people came and responded, no, he.

1085
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 6: Was wrong, Oh, rolling be wrong, Like I definite ain't

1086
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 6: got no beef for rolling.

1087
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 8: But no, I mean, every ounce of blood, every answer

1088
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 8: of change we ever had is because of black blood

1089
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 8: that flow through the streets. And so for you to

1090
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 8: say that that the people that we're talking about who

1091
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 8: have deposited into the Bank of justice, from.

1092
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 6: The Michael Browns who started a generational.

1093
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 8: Movement or continued helped to continue it, Keith Lea, mont Scott,

1094
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 8: Walter Scott, I mean just just those people who were

1095
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 8: superficially on that level. I mean to say that Philip

1096
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 8: Agna had hadn't deposited into the black bank of justice.

1097
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 8: I mean, you can talk about the he.

1098
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 7: Said gen X was making withdraws and hadn't deposited enough.

1099
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 8: He said, he named he said ex millennials n Z.

1100
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 8: And I'm talking about kids who saw their classmates killed

1101
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 8: in Parkland, Florida. And I've and I've always thought, I've

1102
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 8: always said that if you never changed, I was a

1103
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 8: cynical one. If you didn't change gun rights after twenty

1104
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 8: six white kids were killed in Senny, they would never change.

1105
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,439
Speaker 8: And then you had them, you had those mixed kids

1106
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 8: from Parkland decided they were going to go up and

1107
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 8: change gun laws, which is what they did after seeing

1108
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 8: that type of death.

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Speaker 6: So I just think he was wrong. But people have

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Speaker 6: the right to be wrong. That's okay, sure, but he

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Speaker 6: was just flatly wrong on that. And I hope it.

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Speaker 8: I hope it invited some dialogue and exchange with young

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Speaker 8: people who have are going to be the reason this

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Speaker 8: country change.

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Speaker 7: Had a young people show after that.

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Speaker 13: Calling it sexism is kind of lazy analysis of what's happening.

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Speaker 13: This has been ongoing over time, and Democrats got some

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Speaker 13: work to do to bring these brothers, not just black men,

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Speaker 13: but men, bringing men back into the Democratic coalition.

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Speaker 16: Wow.

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Speaker 3: As a woman, I'll be honest, I do have some

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Speaker 3: belief in what people might call toxic masculinity.

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Speaker 6: One.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to drive ever. Somebody else needs to

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Speaker 3: always drive me. Two, I ain't never pumping no gas.

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Speaker 3: I'll never want to pump no I want to touch gas.

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Speaker 3: Somebody else is doing that. Three I don't want to

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Speaker 3: take out no trash like I do believe in traditional

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Speaker 3: gender roles in a lot of ways. And I think

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Speaker 3: there is something interesting happening, which is what I'm exploring

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Speaker 3: in my writing. There's something interesting happening in this dichotomy

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Speaker 3: between black men and black women, where it is an

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Speaker 3: immediate animus upon meeting each other.

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Speaker 5: What are you trying to take from me? What is

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Speaker 5: it you're going to give to me?

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Speaker 3: Even these terms like a high value man, high value woman,

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Speaker 3: and that kind of toxic thinking has penetrated our politics

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Speaker 3: in a way. So that was Terrence Woodbury of Hit

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Speaker 3: Strategies given us some data. And I remember, you know,

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Speaker 3: our exchange after that Andrew, I thought was really helpful

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Speaker 3: for the audience.

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Speaker 5: The con sexualized fine. It was a debate, actually it was.

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Speaker 6: It was after.

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Speaker 7: Other brother Gary Chambers No No, No poster Terrence.

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Speaker 2: Barry Cornell made the comment that yes, black men, but

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Speaker 2: black women. That it was sort of a definitive comment,

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Speaker 2: basically saying, but for black women, we be lost.

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Speaker 9: You know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 7: Where did he do that?

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Speaker 9: This was after at the end of that episode.

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Speaker 7: He wasn't on the show.

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Speaker 9: The the episode where we had this. Yeah, he must

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Speaker 9: have done. What was he was wood Bear by himself?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 9: When we had when we had was his face on

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Speaker 9: the poster?

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Speaker 5: Where is he by parents? By himself?

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Speaker 9: What's his face? There was just name name has never

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Speaker 9: been on this? Oh no, well it was a mini.

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Speaker 5: Then unfortunately we're we have like thirty seconds last.

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Speaker 1: With Gamby Lady. It was he hurt him and Gammy

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Speaker 1: that they were on the show. Forget Okay, I'm sorry, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no worries.

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Speaker 9: But they've done the study. I'm sorry, we're in the show.

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Speaker 9: I was trying to that's okay.

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Speaker 3: Well, well you can check out the full show. They

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Speaker 3: should revisit that show since we're.

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Speaker 9: Talking about two different shows.

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Speaker 6: It was one of the many debates that lost that

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Speaker 6: Tiffany lost on this.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you are a regular viewer of the show,

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Speaker 3: you know that I say I don't like to debate,

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Speaker 3: and my co hosts are like, well, yeah, yes you do.

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Speaker 6: So that's what you say, literally, I don't debate.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, she means that to let you know she is

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Speaker 7: foreclosed conversation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is done, but we have a different idea on.

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Speaker 7: What debates It exercise and futility, and that is also debatable.

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Speaker 6: You know it's not debatable. But I am going to

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Speaker 6: miss Tiffany Cross.

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Speaker 7: Oh we'll miss you too.

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Speaker 5: I'll miss you.

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Speaker 6: Can we sat to split the check four ways? And

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Speaker 6: can we still?

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Speaker 12: Okay?

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Speaker 3: True story when I when I told my co host,

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Speaker 3: I was like, guys, I'm thinking of leaving the show.

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Speaker 5: But Carrie's first response is good, we get this with

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Speaker 5: the money three ways.

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Speaker 7: It's all about the benjamins for this food. You need

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Speaker 7: money to bouy it. Damn glitter exactly.

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Speaker 6: I got babies. It's great.

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Speaker 9: I know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 7: What's okay?

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Speaker 5: Maybe we all want to give a shout out to

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Speaker 5: the staff or.

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Speaker 7: What about quick resolution?

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Speaker 5: The c t a okay quick resolution? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Read fiction?

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Speaker 5: Oh thank you. People be trying to hate on fiction

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Speaker 5: and it's good.

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Speaker 6: Every day. Be a better husband and father.

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Speaker 7: Oh I like that.

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Speaker 9: You have a lot of room. That's great.

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Speaker 1: Mine is to watch and pray. An emphasis on the

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Speaker 1: watch because it's a lot happen.

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Speaker 6: Is that a movie?

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Speaker 7: No, it is a call to action.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that I'm focused more on praying

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Speaker 1: and being meditative in my practices. And making sure that

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Speaker 1: I'm watching my mouth, being mindful of the words that

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Speaker 1: I speak, being a better listener, and praying because it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take God to get us out of dismiss.

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Speaker 9: And it will will, it will come on all right.

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Speaker 5: My CTA.

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Speaker 3: My call to action is, if you watched earlier this month,

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Speaker 3: we did a whole episode on Pop the Balloon, and

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Speaker 3: I was complaining that it's the foolishness that often gets

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Speaker 3: eyes and Native lamp Pod, I think, is a space

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Speaker 3: where you can get information, humor, funny times, stage and foolishness.

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Speaker 7: But at least you know you get no it's nonsense.

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Speaker 3: You can get some nonsense on this show too sometimes,

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Speaker 3: but at least it's grounded in an effort to inform.

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Speaker 3: So my call to action is, please continue to watch

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Speaker 3: Native Lampod, and please, as I'm navigating my way on

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Speaker 3: our ride or today i was sella angela, I don't

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Speaker 3: even know how to navigate this space anymore. It's, you know,

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Speaker 3: just a time gone by. So as I'm developing my

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Speaker 3: next move, please join me. For now, you can follow

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Speaker 3: me on my substack, which is just my name, but

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Speaker 3: join me in whatever I build next. Stay tuned at

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Speaker 3: the when the credits roll, you might get an announcement here,

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Speaker 3: but please help me inform because that's really what I

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Speaker 3: want to do, And so wherever I land next, I

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Speaker 3: hope that you guys will join me.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are going to link to every single one

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Speaker 1: of the episodes that we clipped for your viewing pleasure today,

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